True Anon Truth Feed - Episode 45: Nygard Goes Down Aired: 2020-02-28 Duration: 01:00:03 === Lederpina Revealed (07:18) === [00:00:00] Liz is Led Derpina. [00:00:02] What? [00:00:02] Led Derpina. [00:00:04] That's from that thing on the internet, right? [00:00:06] Uh-huh. [00:00:07] Did you? [00:00:08] I think you showed it to me. [00:00:09] Yeah, I've sent you like hundreds of rage comics over the past two weeks. [00:00:12] But it's like. [00:00:14] Wait, first of all, why am I that? [00:00:16] Why are you led Derpina? [00:00:17] Yeah. [00:00:18] Holy shit. [00:00:19] Listeners, please, please, please write a long post about Liz being Led Derpina on Medium or some such thing like that and send it to her. [00:00:30] Her email address is L-I-Z-Z-O F-R-A-N-Z-A-C-K at mail.eu. [00:00:43] It's the European Union's mailing thing. [00:00:46] No, you're Lederpina. [00:00:50] Young Chomsky is like a sir, and I am like a boss. [00:00:54] What is this? [00:00:55] I don't know what this means. [00:00:57] This is some like Reddit thing, isn't it? [00:00:59] Come on. [00:01:00] Do I look like a guy who uses Reddit? [00:01:01] Do I look like a guy who listens to podcasts or a guy who makes podcasts? [00:01:05] Do you want me to answer that? [00:01:06] Yeah, I do want you to fucking answer that. [00:01:08] I think you know about it from Reddit. [00:01:10] I don't know about it from Reddit. [00:01:11] And our listeners who are in the great Liz vs. Brace schism, which has been building over the past eight months, most listeners have already taken my side. [00:01:22] And I don't think you can really alienate any of the other ones. [00:01:26] The two genders. [00:01:27] Yeah. [00:01:28] Brace embraces fans. [00:01:33] Hold on. [00:01:34] Young Chomsky, can you play right here the Lederpina song? [00:01:41] I want to be pretty. [00:01:43] I want to be loved. [00:01:44] I want to be happy. [00:01:46] Not long for love. [00:01:48] Wanna be lonely. [00:01:49] Wanna be homely. [00:01:51] I wanna see my come free. [00:01:54] I just want a boyfriend, a derp of my own. [00:01:58] And I'm never alone. [00:02:01] This is mean phrase. [00:02:02] Nothing I won't do. [00:02:05] Come true. [00:02:07] We'll walk together and talk together. [00:02:10] Be locked together in every way. [00:02:14] There's none I'd rather completely smother. [00:02:17] I hate this. [00:02:21] Yeah, well, this is just a real. [00:02:22] She's doing IRL Derpina. [00:02:24] You are the original Derpina who is not like this one. [00:02:28] What does that mean? [00:02:29] That means you're real thin, beloved by millions on the internet, and I make references to you constantly when I'm talking to girls at bars. [00:02:38] Okay, I'll take it. [00:02:39] Yeah. [00:02:40] For me, I am the guy that's leaning over his bowl of cereal with an open mouth and the spoon sort of hovering poised in my hand as I make a trenchant and insightful point. [00:02:55] Or ask a question in just total exasperation. [00:02:59] Young Chomsky, of course, is troll face. [00:03:04] Yeah, problem. [00:03:06] He, yeah. [00:03:07] Or sometimes I feel like he's the guy going trollo with the with the round mouth and the string of letters emerging from it. [00:03:21] I don't, this is like a whole internet thing. [00:03:22] I don't, I don't understand. [00:03:24] See, this is where I think you're being an asshole. [00:03:28] Because you know how much this stuff means to me. [00:03:31] And you know, like, it's like, it's like if I came over and I was like, yeah, makeup is fucking stupid. [00:03:37] You would get all pissed at me. [00:03:39] Because that's something you do every day. [00:03:41] And something I do every day is listen to this song. [00:03:44] I draw comics. [00:03:45] Oh. [00:03:46] Yeah. [00:03:46] Cool. [00:03:47] Great way to have to reveal this to you. [00:03:50] Like this thing I work on every day. [00:03:54] Every day at my house. [00:03:56] And like, I think I can have a future on. [00:03:58] I don't need to do cookie podcast anymore. [00:04:01] And you're just like, Brace, that's cringe and blue-pilled. [00:04:06] And I'm like, I do say that. [00:04:08] It's actually cool and moderately red-pilled. [00:04:15] And now you're like, you don't even trust me on that. [00:04:18] And then I even try to work you into my world and I call you Derpina and you're like, that's stupid. [00:04:24] It's like, look, I'm almost making myself actually crying. [00:04:26] I know. [00:04:28] I've been making eye contact with you. [00:04:29] You know I can't this whole time. [00:04:30] Yeah, all girls can. [00:04:32] Are you kidding me? [00:04:33] It took me. [00:04:35] Have I done that like puppy dog face for you? [00:04:38] I will say you naturally do have kind of a puppy dog face. [00:04:41] Do it. [00:04:42] Holy shit. [00:04:44] Wait, check this out. [00:04:45] Do it to him. [00:04:47] Look at that. [00:04:49] Yeah, I don't like, don't, I mean, no, I'm so sorry. [00:04:54] Derpina sucks and is lame. [00:04:57] This is, oh my God. [00:04:58] Okay, let's get the show on the road. [00:05:00] Yeah, they should kill you. [00:05:02] my dear maiden of the podcasting seas uh we should introduce ourselves huh We tend to do that. [00:05:31] All right. [00:05:32] My name is You go first. [00:05:36] I can't think of mine. [00:05:37] My name is Liz. [00:05:38] My name is Brace. [00:05:40] We're joined by Young Chomsky on the ones and twos. [00:05:44] Yeah, we're just straight shooting. [00:05:45] No jokes today. [00:05:46] Uh-huh. [00:05:47] But we, well, so a lot of times when I tell Like people, you know, I go to that gentleman's club, not a strip club, an actual club for single men who sit around and smoke cigarettes together. [00:06:01] A salon. [00:06:02] A salon. [00:06:03] Well, that actually sounds not as cool. [00:06:06] But yeah, it's, it's, uh, it's, it's a men's club. [00:06:10] And I go there and I'm like, they're like, oh, well, I'm an investment banker. [00:06:13] Like, I'm a, you know, I'm the chief of the army. [00:06:17] And I'm like, well, I'm a podcaster. [00:06:19] And they're like, podcasting, how can you change the world if you just podcast? [00:06:24] Many are saying this. [00:06:25] Yeah. [00:06:25] But here's the thing. [00:06:27] Sometimes even a little podcast can make a big change in the world. [00:06:31] Well, sometimes a little podcast can turn on a light. [00:06:35] And that light can turn on another light. [00:06:40] It's a chain light. [00:06:41] And then that light, the second light that has been turned on from the first light, then turns on more lights. [00:06:49] And they shine bright. [00:06:52] Like a diamond. [00:06:53] And like a diamond. [00:06:56] Yeah. [00:06:56] So you just copy what I said. [00:06:58] No, I was echoing. [00:06:59] Okay. [00:06:59] Oh, yeah. [00:07:00] We're doing echoes. [00:07:00] Shine bright like a diamond. [00:07:02] That's like basically what Pete said, right? [00:07:06] Yeah. [00:07:06] Yeah. [00:07:07] Basically, but I got to finish my porn or else people think I just said something weird and that wasn't connected anymore. [00:07:12] Okay. [00:07:14] Pete Buttigieg is dead. [00:07:17] No, just kidding. === Leslie Wexner's Fall? (08:05) === [00:07:19] Leslie Wexner's dead. [00:07:21] He's not. [00:07:22] No, he's not. [00:07:23] I didn't finish reading the article. [00:07:27] No, Leslie Wexner, who listeners, remember last week, we talked about him extensively. [00:07:32] We were discussing Victoria's Secret. [00:07:35] And turns out we recorded that just in the nick of time because Leslie Wexner is stepping down from Victoria's secret. [00:07:43] Yeah, he was like, brah, I can't do this anymore. [00:07:47] It was a bro moment. [00:07:48] Yeah, it was a bra moment. [00:07:51] Oh, I got it. [00:07:51] How are you going to say it wrong? [00:07:54] That's not even how it goes. [00:07:55] You didn't even say bra moment. [00:07:57] You said bro moment. [00:07:58] No, I didn't. [00:07:59] Okay, now we're gaslighting again. [00:08:02] I didn't get bra moment, though. [00:08:04] That's funny. [00:08:05] Hey, YC, if she did say bra, can you change it? [00:08:08] Yeah. [00:08:08] All right, cool. [00:08:09] I don't want to be wrong. [00:08:10] I said bra moment. [00:08:11] It was a bro moment. [00:08:12] Anyways, let's, let's, let's, I'm sorry, I'm setting the timer because I forgot to. [00:08:17] But you keep talking. [00:08:18] I'm looking at my phone. [00:08:20] Well, no. [00:08:21] So we talked about Leslie Wexner last week. [00:08:24] We were discussing a couple of the bombshell reports that came out about Victoria's Secret and in general, the sort of like disgusting, disgusting political economy of the modeling world. [00:08:39] So it turns out that Leslie Wexner was so moved by our broadcast that he has decided to step down as chairman and L-Brands, which is the conglomerate that owns Vicky Seeks, is selling a 55% stake in Victoria's Secret to something called Sycamore Brands. [00:09:02] Yeah, Sick Amore. [00:09:04] Sycamore. [00:09:05] Sick that means like ill love in French. [00:09:09] No, but so yeah, they will no longer be, L-Brands will no longer be the majority stakeholder. [00:09:15] No shareholders. [00:09:16] Sick brands will. [00:09:17] They paid $525 million to purchase this motley assortment of bras, vagina bras, panties, and mid-section bras, which are sort of like garter belts that women wear. [00:09:33] They're all variations of bra. [00:09:36] Yeah, which is, I don't know, for some reason I thought it would be less money than that, but I guess people are still buying Victoria's Secret. [00:09:42] They save a lot of money. [00:09:43] 12% drop in sales this holiday season. [00:09:47] That we call is the True Non slump right there. [00:09:51] We kneecapped that industry. [00:09:53] Yeah. [00:09:54] So, I mean, it's not surprising that, you know, the board would sort of maybe force some of this to happen. [00:10:02] They did say something. [00:10:03] Here's a nice quote by one of them, though. [00:10:05] Check this out. [00:10:06] Les Wexner is a retail legend who has built incredible brands that are household names around the globe. [00:10:12] His leadership through this transition exemplifies his commitment to further growth of Bath and Body Works and Victoria's Secret and driving overall shareholder value. [00:10:22] Imagine that's that's the lead independent board director. [00:10:26] Imagine being like, this guy is so amazing. [00:10:30] He's not only has time to be a pedophile, but he also can molest women allegedly at the bra company he owns is like an 85-year-old man, and he also sells candles. [00:10:42] Yeah. [00:10:42] And also that like him leaving is, you know, a move to expand the shareholder value, which is what's happening. [00:10:49] Yeah. [00:10:50] Oh, yeah, absolutely. [00:10:51] That's the thing is like none and no one, like all of these, there were so many, not independent, like in-house investigations at all these firms that were connected to Epstein or Epstein Associates after, you know, pedophile 9-11. [00:11:06] That would be the death of Jeffrey Epstein. [00:11:08] Yes. [00:11:09] Or really the arrest and death, whatever. [00:11:12] That whole thing that happened. [00:11:15] But like none of them ever came up with anything. [00:11:18] Like no one at like Barclays was like, Jeff Staley is guilty. [00:11:23] He's got to go. [00:11:23] It's always like, no, you know, we investigated our guy and guess what? [00:11:27] He's innocent. [00:11:27] Well, they aren't going to tell anyone anything. [00:11:29] I mean, it's all in-house and internal. [00:11:31] You know, I have a feeling they just don't happen. [00:11:33] Yeah, I don't know, actually. [00:11:34] That's a good question. [00:11:35] I bet that they do, but also they purposefully do in such a cursory manner so as to not actually even find anything, even if they did. [00:11:45] Yeah. [00:11:46] But a lot of times those companies like pay a pretty penny for those kinds of like internal HR situations just because they know how poorly it reflects to their shareholders that they aren't like attempting to even clean a house. [00:12:03] Yeah. [00:12:03] But I mean, I will say that like good riddance, who care? Leslie Wexner, whatever. [00:12:09] I hope he discovers a huge batch of fentanyl. [00:12:13] Okay, well, that aside. [00:12:16] You know, it's not like any of his riches are gone. [00:12:20] It's not like any of his power is gone. [00:12:21] It's not like they took away the town of New Albany and, to be honest, Columbus, which he also kind of owns, away from him. [00:12:27] Yeah. [00:12:28] So, I mean, again, you know, I always like, I don't know, I tend to repeat myself a lot and I will do so again right now. [00:12:38] But that you know, so many, so many of these moves are always just ways to shore up legitimacy for companies to continue nefarious practices. [00:12:53] Oh, here's the other thing, too. [00:12:54] First of all, yes. [00:12:55] So some of these guys basically function as like the sin eaters for their various companies. [00:12:59] Exactly. [00:13:00] Notice that Ed Razak isn't out. [00:13:02] No, not yet. [00:13:03] I know, I bet. [00:13:04] The axe has probably fallen on that guy pretty soon, too. [00:13:07] But these are also kind of like interesting ways for these companies to not only get out somebody who's giving them negative attention, but to possibly boost their credibility in the first place. [00:13:17] Absolutely. [00:13:18] Vicky Seeks Credibility was, you can't see my hand right now, but it is a, I'm doing the diagonal motion. [00:13:23] Downward. [00:13:24] Downwards. [00:13:25] Yeah. [00:13:25] I sometimes have trouble with that. [00:13:28] And, you know, Victoria's Secret has been going down in value for a while now as titties have gotten too big for bras to handle, butt implants have really taken over, etc. [00:13:39] I'm not really super familiar with the market forces at work here. [00:13:42] That is what I gather. [00:13:45] But like if they get someone like, you know, like Erasik or like Wexner to step down, they can sort of put this like sheen on it. [00:13:53] I guarantee you that Victoria's Secret will be pivoting towards like a more woke model very soon. [00:14:00] Interesting. [00:14:01] Because that was, I think that's probably one of the, from what I gather, I listened to in preparation for our model pot, our model episode, I read a lot about trends in underwear industry. [00:14:11] You were doing a lot of research, were you? [00:14:13] No, I'm not, you know, I really was doing research. [00:14:15] And people will know me. [00:14:16] I am not a Coomer. [00:14:18] No, you want to say. [00:14:19] Which, yeah, that feels a little stayed to use that word now. [00:14:21] Anyways, it does. [00:14:23] It's past its prime. [00:14:25] I'm done. [00:14:26] But Coomer's out. [00:14:27] You sound like Ed Razik right there. [00:14:30] But, you know, the trends have been going towards like, you know, people with regular bodies or whatever. [00:14:36] Like, they're like, you know, all sizes, all shapes. [00:14:39] Yeah. [00:14:39] And like, that is really, if I was starting an underwear company, that's how you make money because you just make underwear for anything. [00:14:44] There's a couple companies that do that and are doing very well. [00:14:47] Exactly. [00:14:47] And so. [00:14:48] And this shit is just as cheap as Victoria's Secret. [00:14:50] Yeah. [00:14:51] And so I think that's probably what they're going to pivot towards. [00:14:54] So they're going to be like, well, we got this guy out and now we're, look, cool or whatever. [00:15:00] You know, I don't care much for the whole, like, that whole phenomenon. [00:15:03] What, underwear? [00:15:04] No, of like of like real girl, like you know, empowerment. [00:15:11] I don't know. [00:15:12] I like a good model. [00:15:14] Well, you know me. [00:15:16] I love models. [00:15:19] Unfortunately, I can't act on that anymore because now all these guys ruined it. === Tax Loopholes in Virgin Islands (06:58) === [00:15:24] Yeah. [00:15:26] Yeah. [00:15:26] So Leslie Wexner dead. [00:15:31] Allegedly. [00:15:32] Allegedly. [00:15:32] Also not. [00:15:58] Hey, check out this. [00:16:00] I got a little sound effect. [00:16:02] Ching-ching. [00:16:04] Chi-ching. [00:16:07] Why does it sound like that? [00:16:08] Chi-ching. [00:16:10] Do it normal. [00:16:12] You don't like, you don't do it like that. [00:16:13] I can't do mid-register. [00:16:15] I can only do high-pitched or low-pitched. [00:16:17] Do it again. [00:16:17] Chi-ching. [00:16:20] Does it sound right? [00:16:21] I think it sounds good. [00:16:22] Fix it in pose. [00:16:23] No, no, don't fix it in pose. [00:16:25] I'm not ashamed. [00:16:26] I'm not, I know what money. [00:16:28] When was the last time you worked a fucking cash register, Liz? [00:16:32] It's been a minute. [00:16:33] Yeah. [00:16:34] For me, it's been a minute too. [00:16:35] Two years minutes. [00:16:37] From Florist. [00:16:39] No, actually, I guess it was last year I worked a cash register. [00:16:41] I work at the flower shop still sometimes. [00:16:43] Oh, no. [00:16:44] I was supposed to work this Valentine's Day, but went to Reno instead to ostensibly canvas for Bernie, but really to make $300 gambling. [00:16:52] I saw that you walked away with some money. [00:16:57] Yeah, I did. [00:16:57] I don't want to talk about it on here. [00:16:58] I feel skauche, but I made $8,000 playing slots. [00:17:03] No. [00:17:04] So, so let's talk banks, my little pretty. [00:17:08] Well, that's my. [00:17:10] Sorry. [00:17:11] Talk banks to me. [00:17:13] This is your purview. [00:17:14] I mean, I like that you're getting more into it. [00:17:18] Yeah, but I mean, I'm your student. [00:17:23] So a couple weeks ago, there were some very strange stories that came out. [00:17:28] In particular, one in the Miami, Miami Herald, but also, I believe, in the New York Times, basically looking at a bunch of the financial transactions that were occurring with what looked to be Epstein's companies. [00:17:43] And remember, astute listeners of the podcast, you'll remember we've sort of talked about how Epstein had a bunch of, let's call them shell companies registered in the Virgin Islands. [00:17:58] That it some of this was connected to what disclosures that came out with the Paradise Papers as well. [00:18:05] But that basically like post-mortem that some funny transactions were happening with Epstein's estate and his companies to the point where it's, I mean, it's very confused, confusing about who is executing these transactions. [00:18:22] Yes. [00:18:23] Is someone alive? [00:18:25] Well, it could be. [00:18:26] His brother has some. [00:18:28] I know. [00:18:28] I'm just kidding, guys. [00:18:29] Don't get mad at me. [00:18:30] I'm not going to be too crazy. [00:18:33] Okay. [00:18:34] Well, I mean, but don't get ahead of yourself here. [00:18:37] So, yeah, he's got a shit ton of shell companies. [00:18:41] I mean, the guy had basically like, I don't know the exact list, but he was, he, he started a lot of corporations. [00:18:48] I mean, from ones that controlled his property. [00:18:51] Pretty much every property he had was controlled by a different corporation. [00:18:54] Yes. [00:18:54] And we should say that this is like not unique to Epstein. [00:18:58] I mean, this is like standard practice. [00:19:00] Yeah. [00:19:01] Especially a lot of freelancers out there. [00:19:03] I see you. [00:19:05] You might, you know, a lot of people form companies. [00:19:07] Oh, wait, we can finally talk shit on freelancers. [00:19:10] No. [00:19:11] But a lot of people form companies in order to, you know, get around some tax loopholes, et cetera, et cetera. [00:19:18] But it's even, you know, a bigger requirement if you're making serious money like Epstein. [00:19:22] Yeah. [00:19:23] And so, I mean, that's all these people. [00:19:25] I mean, the thing is about the Virgin Islands, and actually, I feel like every island has this. [00:19:31] There are a lot of tax loopholes there. [00:19:33] In fact, I think their tax system was modeled after Puerto Rico's, which is very kind. [00:19:38] Yes. [00:19:38] People starting shell corporations. [00:19:41] The United States of America, please don't do that. [00:19:46] It's really cringe. [00:19:46] It's United Snakes of America. [00:19:49] That's the dialectic. [00:19:51] United Snakes of America. [00:19:53] I do like when you say that. [00:19:54] I ran into Joe Biafra in a gay bar bathroom a couple weeks ago. [00:19:58] Really? [00:19:59] What bar? [00:20:01] Twin Peaks. [00:20:02] Oh, nice. [00:20:02] I like that barb. [00:20:03] Noir City Film Festival. [00:20:04] Yeah, that's a good bar. [00:20:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:20:07] Old time meme. [00:20:07] I know a girl that works there. [00:20:09] Anyway, so no, all, you know, America loves having its basically one foot in all of its little islands that act as tax shelters. [00:20:23] Yes. [00:20:23] And that's basically their only purpose for the United States. [00:20:26] Yeah, yeah. [00:20:27] Well, the thing is, Virgin Islands, too, it's not like Epstein was just like, you know, a lot of these islands, people set up a shell company, never even visit the islands, right? [00:20:35] Like a lot of those British tax shelters. [00:20:36] Right. [00:20:37] It's just like, it's not like, you know, City of London bankers or like, I mean, yeah, Cayman is more of even just like where you go on vacation, regardless of what, like, not people that have Cayman accounts even. [00:20:49] Yeah. [00:20:50] Is it like a vacation spot? [00:20:51] Yeah, it's like very fancy. [00:20:53] Okay. [00:20:54] Well, I can islands tend to be. [00:20:56] Yeah. [00:20:57] But it's, I mean, Epstein lived there, right? [00:21:00] And he was very involved, let's say, with large portions of the Virgin Islands government. [00:21:09] So this is actually from the New York Times piece. [00:21:12] Around the time the territory granted Epstein his banking license, it also gave a lucrative, that's a French word that means very good, tax break to Southern Trust, a company Epstein said was developing sophisticated algorithms to mine DNA in financial databases. [00:21:29] The tax break came from the territory's economic development authority, which was approved by the territory's former governor, Jean DeJong Jr., while his wife, Cecil, worked for Epstein. [00:21:41] Neither Cecil DeJong nor her husband returned messages seeking comment. [00:21:46] It's probably Cecile. [00:21:47] Cecile? [00:21:48] Yeah. [00:21:48] It's Cecil. [00:21:50] It's Cecil. [00:21:52] It's a Virginian islands name. [00:21:58] Anyway, Southern Trust generated 300 mil profits in just about six years. [00:22:06] But when Epstein died, didn't have a ton of money in it. [00:22:09] Just had 690,000 of 93,157 in assets. [00:22:15] Yes, but then mid-December, the estate transferred $15.5 million to Southern Country. === Strange Estate Transactions (11:22) === [00:22:23] That's big baller money. [00:22:24] And then Southern Country sent back $2.6 million, which is also very strange. [00:22:30] So where's the rest of the money? [00:22:32] Well, they, so no, none of the documents that they filed give any reason for why those transfers happened. [00:22:41] But Southern Country received, in total, $12.9 million minus what Southern Country sent back to the estate. [00:22:49] Yeah. [00:22:50] So it's like when you accidentally give your friend a 20 and you're like, oh, what? [00:22:53] McDonald's was only eight. [00:22:55] Yeah. [00:22:55] And you guys changed $12 back. [00:22:57] It's just very weird because it's like, who, okay, who is sitting on the computer like doing these bank transfers? [00:23:03] Who's calling this in? [00:23:05] I mean, presumably one of his many good friends high up in the banking world. [00:23:10] Well, you know, who's a close friend associated with the story? [00:23:17] James Staley. [00:23:18] Yes. [00:23:19] And James Staley, he's a little bit, he's having a rough week himself. [00:23:24] Yeah. [00:23:26] So James Staley, we've mentioned him before. [00:23:28] Yeah, one of Liz's ex-boyfriends. [00:23:31] It's a very handsome name. [00:23:32] I'll give him that. [00:23:32] James Staley is a handsome name? [00:23:34] Yeah, I like it. [00:23:35] What are you fucking talking about? [00:23:37] He sounds like he's like a guy in like a 90s iteration of kids. [00:23:40] I like the name James. [00:23:41] It's nice. [00:23:42] James? [00:23:43] I don't know. [00:23:44] It's like a fine name, but you think James Staley is a handsome. [00:23:48] I do not understand women. [00:23:50] First of all, they're like, Brace, your nose is too big and you're ugly. [00:23:53] And then they think other guys with noses that are big are good looking. [00:23:56] Oh, my God. [00:23:57] I don't understand it. [00:23:59] Okay, James Staley. [00:24:00] So he is the American head of Barclays. [00:24:05] That would be like basically the biggest bank in the UK. [00:24:09] Okay. [00:24:10] And he has had pretty much a long-standing relationship with Jeff Free. [00:24:16] Yes. [00:24:18] To the point where he visited him while Jeff Free was in his quote-unquote prison situation in Florida. [00:24:27] He was in the Floridian stockade. [00:24:30] Yes. [00:24:30] Yeah. [00:24:31] He visited. [00:24:32] He had a bunch of really weird visitors then. [00:24:34] But yeah, I think he visited him multiple times. [00:24:38] And Staley is not... [00:24:42] Let's say they're doing a Wexner on him, right? [00:24:45] This is... [00:24:45] Is that what you think is happening? [00:24:47] Well, so what they did is they did an internal investigation at Barclays to investigate his, what he calls strictly professional relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. [00:24:56] A relationship so professional, you have to go to Palm Beach, Florida, and visit him in jail while he's in there for molesting children. [00:25:03] I do that for all my homies. [00:25:06] Yeah, and they, of course, the Barclays investigators, those seasoned gumshoes out there, they cleared him. [00:25:14] Yes. [00:25:15] They're like, the guy that pays all our money is not a pedophile. [00:25:19] But unfortunately, the Brits, you know how much they hate pedophilia in Britain. [00:25:27] So Barclays is doing an investigation basically into the relationship between Staley and Epstein, like you mentioned. [00:25:33] But there's also, basically, now UK regulators are involved. [00:25:37] The Financial Conduct Authority, which is that's a very quaint name. [00:25:43] But they're basically looking into if anything untoward was happening between Epstein and Staley. [00:25:49] And I think it's pretty, I mean, from our advantage, it seems absolutely there was. [00:25:55] Yeah, I mean, we mentioned he visited him in jail. [00:25:57] He also went to the island. [00:25:58] Yeah, he also is named like as a point of contact in almost all of the shell companies that he incorporated. [00:26:06] Yeah, yeah, Southern Country. [00:26:08] He was like, he wrote a glowing recommendation too on their application. [00:26:13] And you don't just do that. [00:26:15] I don't know. [00:26:15] I mean, it seems like a relationship much closer than the average professional one. [00:26:21] Yeah. [00:26:22] But that's what it seems like with basically all of Epstein's relationships. [00:26:26] Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is, he mixed business with pleasure with like no one else. [00:26:31] And you gotta wonder, like, it's just it's it's to me, it's just it's so absurd because it reminds me a lot of the Weinstein stuff where like everybody knew Jeffrey Epstein was a child molester. [00:26:41] There are a lot of other rich, like these people are already rich, right? [00:26:45] Like Staley doesn't need to be like, he doesn't need Epstein's business. [00:26:50] He has more money than he could ever spend in his life. [00:26:52] So why is he going to have lunch with them on his island? [00:26:56] Why is he going to the jail cell? [00:26:58] Well, Staley insists that he hasn't, he had no further contact with Epstein post-2015. [00:27:06] Post-2015. [00:27:08] And, well, it's important you say that because he joined Barclays in December 2015. [00:27:13] So he's like, dude, I've changed my shit around. [00:27:15] I can't be talking about it. [00:27:16] But no, importantly, that while he was at Barclays, he didn't have any contact with so they barclays can't investigate him. [00:27:24] Exactly. [00:27:25] So the thing is, is that Barclays, like you said, they did an internal investigation. [00:27:29] They have completely cleared him. [00:27:31] They completely cleared Staley. [00:27:33] And they said, no, actually, he's been very transparent with us. [00:27:35] And we believe them. [00:27:37] Case closed. [00:27:38] But now the regulators in the UK, two regulatory authorities have joined forces to basically challenge Barclays on their investigation. [00:27:51] They're like, listen, I know a pedophile would want to see you on. [00:27:54] And you, my good sir, you are a pedophile, allegedly. [00:28:01] Right. [00:28:02] That's what they're saying. [00:28:04] I think, yeah, that's a quote. [00:28:06] Yeah, he also, just this is not, this is not Staley's first run-in with the, let's say, authorities in the city of London. [00:28:14] So the city of London is different than just the city of London. [00:28:20] The city of London is like a giant, or excuse me, it's a small little enclave within the city of London. [00:28:26] The city of London is within the city of London. [00:28:29] And the city of London has, it's basically just like rich people's like city. [00:28:35] It's like the city for only rich people. [00:28:37] And it's like, I think it has like way more lax like laws in terms of banking and trade and stuff like that than the city of London. [00:28:46] So you understand what I'm saying here? [00:28:48] Yeah. [00:28:49] Yes. [00:28:49] Isn't that weird? [00:28:50] That'd be like if there was a city of San Francisco that was just like, you can do virtual reality here. [00:28:56] That's actually what you call the Facebook campus. [00:28:59] That's in a different city than San Francisco. [00:29:01] You know what I'm saying? [00:29:02] I know what you're saying. [00:29:03] I don't like that they call them campuses. [00:29:06] Yeah, I think it's weird. [00:29:07] Yeah. [00:29:08] You know what you should call it? [00:29:09] Fucking office. [00:29:11] Yeah. [00:29:12] There you go. [00:29:14] Yeah. [00:29:14] So he actually, he's gotten in trouble before because he unmasked a whistleblower. [00:29:19] Not once, but twice. [00:29:22] And that's generally frowned upon. [00:29:24] Well, actually, it's not frowned upon whatsoever, but it's technically against the law. [00:29:28] Yeah. [00:29:29] And he got in some trouble for it. [00:29:30] Anyways, the bank's board is so ashamed of Staley's close relationship with Epstein. [00:29:37] And, you know, they obviously are not falling for his clear and transparent alleged lies on this that they've unanimously recommended him to be re-elected at the next shareholder meeting. [00:29:49] Oh, perfect. [00:29:50] Yeah, because they're like, if we have him, if he, you know, if he occupies the most important spot at our bank, that means we have him right where we want him. [00:29:57] And that means we don't co-sign his activities because that means he's technically a different rank than us. [00:30:02] And so that means he's not like us. [00:30:04] He's different. [00:30:05] So, yeah, I mean, that's a sure sign. [00:30:07] This guy is going down. [00:30:11] Bourgeoisie, control the government. [00:30:13] The government. [00:30:15] We need to take him down. [00:30:17] Take him down. [00:30:21] Bourgeoisie, control the government. [00:30:28] Take the take and take him down. [00:30:34] So what, Liz, have you read any of this guy's books? [00:30:37] Who? [00:30:38] Nygaard. [00:30:39] Peter Nygaard? [00:30:40] Yeah. [00:30:40] No. [00:30:40] He did that My Life. [00:30:41] I don't know if you looks all into my life. [00:30:43] No. [00:30:44] One through six. [00:30:45] My struggle. [00:30:47] My struggle. [00:30:48] Oh, my life. [00:30:48] Peter of Nygaard. [00:30:50] Yeah, Peter of Nygaard. [00:30:52] Yeah, I don't like these author types. [00:30:55] That's not who he is. [00:30:56] You know, I've only been reading women for the past six years. [00:30:59] That's your pledge. [00:31:00] Yeah, I got plath. [00:31:03] The other chick. [00:31:06] What female authors can you name? [00:31:08] No, I know plenty. [00:31:09] I know plenty of women authors. [00:31:12] All right. [00:31:12] So who the fuck is this guy? [00:31:15] Peter Nygaard. [00:31:16] Yeah. [00:31:18] Well, he is rich. [00:31:21] I know, but like, he's been in one fucking movie and he was just in the last part of it, too. [00:31:26] I don't understand how this guy made so much money from being in Uncut Gems. [00:31:30] No. [00:31:31] It doesn't make sense. [00:31:32] That's not him. [00:31:34] Okay, okay, okay, okay. [00:31:36] Back to the show. [00:31:37] Who are we talking about? [00:31:38] Peter Nygaard. [00:31:39] Peter Nygaard. [00:31:40] Peter Nytgaard. [00:31:41] So explosive story in the Failure New York Times that lawyers representing more than 10 women have filed lawsuits claiming that he raped girls as young as age 14 on his private island. [00:31:58] Yes. [00:31:58] And this is, by the way, not, well, first of all, who the fuck is Peter Nygaard? [00:32:03] He is a, he is a motherfucker who he's Canadian. [00:32:06] He's from Halinski originally, but he lives in Canada, or well, I guess lived in Canada. [00:32:09] I guess he lives in the fucking Bahamas now, who runs a woman's clothing store. [00:32:16] I don't know. [00:32:16] Here's the thing, guys. [00:32:18] I pretty much buy all my clothing from upscale men's retailers, where I see our producer looked at me there, like Victoria's Secret and Bed Bath and Beyond. [00:32:28] So, Liz, what is this? [00:32:31] What is this guy's store? [00:32:33] I mean, it's basically like bad club clothes. [00:32:36] Which club? [00:32:37] Nygaard. [00:32:38] The club? [00:32:39] Yeah. [00:32:40] It's not, I mean, I think he got famous on jeggings. [00:32:45] So for our younger listeners, what is a jegging? [00:32:50] I just assume they don't make them anymore. [00:32:51] Yeah. [00:32:52] I don't know if they still make them. [00:32:53] It's basically like a lycra stretch blend, maybe with a little bit of cotton. [00:33:01] For our male listeners, what is lycra? [00:33:05] Okay, so imagine a legging, but it looks like denim. [00:33:08] Okay, for our other male listeners, what are leggings? [00:33:11] Is those stockings? [00:33:13] So, yeah, it was like a trend a while ago, maybe like 10 years ago, for girls to wear extremely tight jeans, but to the point where they're actually just leggings and not even cotton or denim anymore. [00:33:30] No, so they're like extremely stretchy jeggings. [00:33:34] You know, it's a leggings plus jeans. [00:33:38] Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:33:39] Why don't they call them leans? [00:33:41] That actually sounds better and has more of like a slim quality about it, right? === Strange Predilections and Videos (06:20) === [00:33:46] Anyway, so Peter Nygaard is the owner of this retail company called Nygaard. [00:33:53] Now I got international. [00:33:54] Yeah, I, I mean, it's like, it's not really that big in America. [00:33:59] No, I think they mainly sell them in, looks like that island made of trash in the Pacific and in various places where they test depleted uranium munitions. [00:34:11] Yeah, no, and this guy is, is, he's an eccentric. [00:34:17] Yeah, he's, you know, if you've never seen a photo of him. [00:34:23] Look it up. [00:34:23] Yeah. [00:34:24] I just imagine that one accompanying the episode. [00:34:26] Right now, he's just like a smack of tan on him. [00:34:31] Oh, yeah. [00:34:32] Just at all, you know. [00:34:33] He's living the Bahamas lifestyle. [00:34:35] Bahamian. [00:34:36] Bahamian lifestyle. [00:34:37] Well, he dated. [00:34:38] So I was researching this little Cretan. [00:34:41] So Peter Nietgaard was born in Nietgaard. [00:34:46] He was born in Helsinki. [00:34:48] Helsinki in 1941. [00:34:50] Now, I'll tell you a couple other things that were going on in 1941. [00:34:54] Of course, there was a siege of Leningrad by not just Nazi Germany, but also Finland. [00:35:02] And they were doing the Holocaust to my people. [00:35:06] So, I don't know. [00:35:07] Maybe he's got some connection to that. [00:35:09] Not up to me to say. [00:35:10] I'm not a time traveler, nor am I able to tell the past via magic. [00:35:18] But I do think it's very suspicious that he moved to Canada with his family. [00:35:21] You know who else moved to Canada? [00:35:23] Pretty much every member of the OUN, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, the Stepan Bandera Association, who, by the way, by the way, I forget who it is, but that fucking one lady in Canadian government, her grandfather, by the way, made a fucking pro-Nazi newspaper in Ukraine during the 1940s. [00:35:42] So, the connection, I don't know, but think it's weird. [00:35:45] Who's to say? [00:35:46] Who's to say? [00:35:47] Canada, a lot of Nazi war criminals went there. [00:35:49] America, at least, we were like, hey, no, stay in Germany. [00:35:52] We'll put you all in the government there. [00:35:54] But Canada, they're like, you know what? [00:35:55] We need some more people. [00:35:56] Please come join our government. [00:35:58] Okay, okay, okay. [00:35:59] So back to Nygaard. [00:36:00] Yeah. [00:36:01] So the focus of the story isn't so much his business, which is quite boring and distasteful in my opinion. [00:36:09] But the estate that he built in the Bahamas. [00:36:13] Yes. [00:36:13] Nygaard K. [00:36:15] Yeah. [00:36:16] K's. [00:36:17] I know. [00:36:18] I don't know if they are. [00:36:19] It's a thing. [00:36:20] It's like an island, right? [00:36:22] Yeah, so it's this huge island that he built himself. [00:36:25] I think he started in like the late 80s. [00:36:29] Palatial estate. [00:36:31] Yeah, he has a Mayan. [00:36:33] I tell you what, folks, look up, go to www.youtube.com, look up Nygard K. [00:36:42] And watch, that's C-A-Y, not just the letter. [00:36:45] And watch videos of this guy's estate. [00:36:47] It is fucking... [00:36:48] There's also... [00:36:49] Watch any Nygaard video you can find because you find some weird shit. [00:36:52] He's weird. [00:36:52] He's a giant Mayan temple built there. [00:36:55] What is with these guys in islands and temples? [00:36:57] I don't know, but not, he, okay. [00:37:00] He would, like Epstein, throw massive parties, famously, massive parties on his island where he'd have lots of young girls present who many of them have said that it was quite inappropriate. [00:37:19] And, you know, obviously perhaps some other allegations. [00:37:22] Yeah, well, he called them pamper parties. [00:37:24] First of all, let me be clear. [00:37:26] I know a girl who's been to his house when she was a teenager. [00:37:29] Really? [00:37:29] Yeah, but not for one of these parties. [00:37:31] It was for like something nearby, but I think it was Nygaard's daughter was with them. [00:37:36] And they went to go use the bathroom. [00:37:38] I think actually, no, it was a party maybe at the house, but it wasn't one of his pamper parties. [00:37:42] But yeah, I know a girl who has been to his house and she says it's the most fucking insane thing in the world. [00:37:47] She was not involved in these pamper parties or anything. [00:37:51] But yeah, it is, it's, it's, it's not just that he would hold the parties, though. [00:37:58] No. [00:37:59] He had some kind of strange predilections. [00:38:03] Well, allegedly. [00:38:04] Allegedly. [00:38:05] Yeah. [00:38:06] He referred to girls as toilets and used them as such. [00:38:11] I don't even want to get into that or touch that. [00:38:12] Yeah. [00:38:13] I will say though, it's even, you know, Jessica Elba was quoted by saying that she like went to this house during like some press tour for a movie and said that there were just 14 year old girls. [00:38:30] Just like walking around. [00:38:31] Just walking around or dancing on the many poles that he had installed. [00:38:35] Yeah, he did have a lot of stripper poles and stuff. [00:38:37] A lot of stripper poles, a lot of that kind of situation. [00:38:41] There's a lot of like echoes of Epstein with this kind of stuff, right? [00:38:45] I mean, first of all, we got the island. [00:38:46] We got the fucking, you know, billionaire. [00:38:49] We got the, you know, just sex-obsessed personality here. [00:38:55] Yeah. [00:38:56] And it's, it's, yeah. [00:38:58] So I guess what he would do is he would send his staff out around the Bahamas to essentially like talk young girls into coming to his house in exchange for money and going to these giant parties. [00:39:12] Yeah. [00:39:13] This is a quote from the New York Times piece that really stuck with me. [00:39:20] One time he was like, I don't know where you find these girls from, but there's pretty girls in the ghetto as well, recalled Freddie Barr, Mr. Nygaard's personal assistant in the early 2000s. [00:39:30] You need to find pretty girls in need. [00:39:34] Jesus Christ. [00:39:35] So that is a lot like Epstein, too. [00:39:37] Yeah. [00:39:38] And this is like, yeah, this is becoming like, or not becoming, but this is just a major theme when we talk about this kind of exploitation and abuse, that there is a conscious effort by these men and the organizations that they head and however they kind of go about doing what they do to prey not just on young women, but young women that are already in precarious situations. [00:40:05] Yeah. === Walls Of Abuse (05:51) === [00:40:06] And that it's much easier to, you know, take advantage of, exploit, abuse, you know, all the way through up, you know, kidnap, rape women that are, you know, impoverished. [00:40:27] Exactly, because A, no one's going to fucking believe them if they say anything because they'll just think, I mean, oh, they're just trying to get money out of Epstein or Nygaud or something like this. [00:40:36] But B, they're much more willing to be like, yeah, I'll take $300 than like somebody who doesn't, who has money or who has everything provided for them. [00:40:47] And these guys are very, I mean, look, they're explicitly aware of that, right? [00:40:50] Yeah. [00:40:51] I mean, this guy, like, this sort of obscene wealth this guy had, he had something he called a human fish tank where he would essentially have glass walls, water, and he had topless young girls in mermaid bottoms swimming around in it. [00:41:08] It's like this, I don't know, it's just crazy to me because like I couldn't imagine being like a human being and requesting that or seeing like it's just like I think that's evil. [00:41:20] Yeah, I think too, it's like very strange. [00:41:23] It's like not even, I don't know, I was thinking about this and we'll see if I want to cut this or not, but um, it's like not even a level of decadence that is like like hedonistic. [00:41:37] No, hedonistic is just like a foursome. [00:41:41] But I mean, like, it's like, it's like literally just about rape and abuse. [00:41:46] It's not some sort of like, you know, decadent, like libidinal lifestyle. [00:41:51] Yeah, yeah. [00:41:52] Do you know what I'm saying? [00:41:53] No, I know exactly. [00:41:54] This is not. [00:41:54] This isn't like some aristocratic, like part, like, I mean, it is, but it also isn't. [00:41:59] Like, there's something really depraved about it that doesn't kind of like cross over into. [00:42:04] Well, it sort of boggles the mind. [00:42:06] Like, so like the fish tank in particular really stood out to me because it's like, I can't really imagine a situation which a human like looks at that as like turned on or something or like why you would want to like just be like I you know what I mean? [00:42:18] It seems like it's something about more than you know a lot of people say like oh rape is about power and all this stuff but like this is like a level beyond that. [00:42:26] This is just like it's it's like the cruelty which excites them. [00:42:30] Right. [00:42:32] I mean I don't know exactly what it is, but like it's something it's something beyond that. [00:42:36] It's like, I mean, there's that whole thing where it's like you reach a certain amount of money, you basically just become like this. [00:42:42] But like, it's, it's, it's like you don't, I think you just like don't think of people as people. [00:42:47] Like every, you know how like, I can't remember what it is, but there's like people say like, well, sociopaths like, or a lot of people who exhibit those sort of tendencies, like think they're the only real person in the world. [00:42:58] Right. [00:42:59] It's like, that's the sort of same thing. [00:43:00] You reach a certain amount of money and like you sort of think that like the world exists and all the people in the world exist to serve and to pleasure you. [00:43:07] Right. [00:43:08] And people just become objects to collect and dispose of. [00:43:11] Because it's like, it's, I don't know, again, I don't know why it is, but like telling someone, like a teenager to take off their clothes, put on a fucking mermaid bottom and swim around in a fish tank. [00:43:24] Like that doesn't, that's like. [00:43:26] I guess, yeah, that's, I guess that's what I'm talking about, where it's like not even sexual at this point. [00:43:30] Exactly. [00:43:30] Because like, what are you looking at that and getting a bone or no? [00:43:33] It's like be, I mean, maybe he was, but it's beyond that. [00:43:36] Yeah, it's different. [00:43:38] Yeah. [00:43:38] And yeah, I can't, maybe that's it. [00:43:41] Like I, I, I was having trouble with this because I couldn't quite put my finger on it. [00:43:45] And a lot of the Epstein stuff feels the same way. [00:43:48] Yeah. [00:43:49] There's like, maybe it's the transactional nature of all of it. [00:43:52] Well, it's like Epstein's whole thing of like, if you look at his, you know, there's like video footage of his Palm Beach place and like just like how the walls were covered in pictures of girls. [00:44:02] Yeah. [00:44:02] Like covered. [00:44:04] And it's like, it seems, it almost reminds me more of like a people, you know, like a hunter's lodge where they have like the heads on the walls and stuff like that. [00:44:12] Like a moose or something? [00:44:13] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:44:14] Yeah. [00:44:15] I'm sorry. [00:44:16] We can bleep out moose right there. [00:44:17] No. [00:44:18] You know, you get sensitive. [00:44:20] But yeah, it seems like more like that. [00:44:25] I mean, you know, there's that whole, there's that whole cliche of like hunting humans on an island. [00:44:30] We're like, this is kind of like more similar to that than just like being a sex freak. [00:44:34] Yeah. [00:44:36] Yeah, there's like something, it just, it feels like dead, like, like dead in the eyes or something. [00:44:43] Yeah, that's what I'm saying. [00:44:44] It seems like, it seems like more than depraved. [00:44:46] It seems sadistic, right? [00:44:49] It's, I don't know. [00:44:50] I have a hard time believing that there's no dead girls involved with either of these people. [00:44:55] Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. [00:44:57] I guess I just mean that there's something that feels like it, it isn't, it's not even like a passion for something anymore. [00:45:10] Yeah. [00:45:10] You know, it's like a compulsion or it's reached a point of like not being about sex, not being about eroticism. [00:45:18] Maybe it's that, that it feels like completely not erotic and is turned into something totally different. [00:45:24] I mean, remember, and I know this is going to make you cringe, but the toilet stuff, him referring to girls as toilets and him using them as all kinds of toilets, that to me, that like, that cinches it. [00:45:36] Like this person doesn't like, he, like, it's, it's beyond sex. [00:45:43] You know? [00:45:43] Yeah. [00:45:44] I know people are sexually excited by that stuff for some reason sometimes, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. [00:45:49] No. [00:45:52] And, you know, I think it's just like, it's like a, it's like a horse that breaks its leg, you know? === Fucking Property Dispute (11:41) === [00:45:58] Like, this guy is, is, uh, is, he's gone too far and probably should be treated in the same way as a horse that breaks its leg. [00:46:09] Get what I'm saying? [00:46:10] Yeah. [00:46:11] You know what I'm saying? [00:46:12] A horse that breaks its leg. [00:46:15] Yeah. [00:46:16] You mean like, you know what I'm saying? [00:46:19] You mean like. [00:46:20] Yes. [00:46:22] I didn't realize that's what you want to mean. [00:46:25] So, well, the weird thing is, too, but like something else that's like this stuff didn't get found out basically because of like a one of his employees or something being like, hey, this guy's raising this. [00:46:39] Actually, a little callback to what happened with Miss Ghillane, Ms. Ghillane Maxwell in Old Manchester by the Sea. [00:46:47] This has come back to haunt him because of a old property dispute. [00:46:54] Yes. [00:46:55] All politics are local people. [00:46:57] Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:46:58] His neighbor, a guy named Louis Bacon. [00:47:02] That's a name. [00:47:02] Yeah, well, he's he's or Louis Bacon, maybe it is. [00:47:06] I don't know. [00:47:07] I think he's friend. [00:47:09] He's a close cousin to Jacques Pig. [00:47:12] No. [00:47:15] Louis Bacon is a hedge fund manager whose property is next to Nygaard's. [00:47:20] Yeah. [00:47:20] And they seem to have had a little dispute there. [00:47:23] Yeah, what was it? [00:47:25] Something to do with the seafloor or that he was like going up against his property, something like that. [00:47:32] So I guess Bacon wanted to bury the bones of children somewhere on Nygaard's property. [00:47:38] And Nygaard was like, those are technically my bones now. [00:47:41] No, that's not what happened. [00:47:43] Yeah, no, it's something. [00:47:45] I don't know. [00:47:45] You know what? [00:47:46] It's some fucking property dispute. [00:47:47] And I don't even give a shit what it is. [00:47:49] I didn't even write it in the notes. [00:47:51] But Bacon ended up, they've soon encountered each other. [00:47:55] I think they've spent both, like all told, tens of millions of dollars suing each other in like six districts. [00:48:01] It sounds like just at this point, it's like not even about anything anymore other than like beating the other person. [00:48:07] Yeah. [00:48:08] Which is psychotic. [00:48:09] I mean, no, not always. [00:48:10] Remember the Rand Paul incident? [00:48:12] That guy seemed very level-headed. [00:48:15] That was very funny. [00:48:16] He whined about that for like two years. [00:48:18] He didn't have anything else to talk about. [00:48:20] Yeah. [00:48:21] He's like, you know how you guys like my dad. [00:48:23] Why didn't you like me? [00:48:25] Maybe it's because your dad used the N-word. [00:48:27] Maybe it's because your face is fucking stupid looking. [00:48:30] Yeah. [00:48:31] So, by the way, using the N-word is a bad thing. [00:48:34] Just saying, Ron Paul, suck my dick. [00:48:38] Yeah. [00:48:39] So he hires, like, they've unsuccessfully sued and countersuit each other a bunch of different times. [00:48:45] Eventually, Bacon hires private investigators and lawyers and finds a bunch of these girls and offers them money to go on the record or sue Nygaard. [00:48:56] And to me, it seems without a shadow of the doubt, Nygaard is allegedly guilty, right? [00:49:03] But this payment is definitely going to muddy things in court. [00:49:08] Yeah, well, I also think it's like, you know, I'll say this. [00:49:13] Nygaard and Bacon together, like their combined wealth is larger than the entire like Bahamian government. [00:49:21] Yeah. [00:49:22] So to me, it's like, I don't think from everything that I've read and everything I've looked at with what's going on with Nygaard's property and his little parties and whatever, it's like this is a very sick man who has clearly abused like thousands of women. [00:49:37] Yep. [00:49:38] Allegedly. [00:49:39] But also it's like, this is another example of like Bacon. [00:49:44] It's like another fucking man going up to precarious young women and using them for his own end. [00:49:51] To settle a fucking property dispute. [00:49:54] Yes. [00:49:55] And it's just like, I just can't, I just can't take it. [00:49:59] Well, some of the women even in these articles about this were just like, I don't want to take this guy's money. [00:50:06] Like, I don't want, like, it's, it's, it's, I mean, he's essentially asking them to prostitute for his fucking property dispute. [00:50:14] I mean, it is, it is, it's absurd. [00:50:16] Oh, my God. [00:50:17] It drives, it just drives me, it drives me fucking crazy. [00:50:19] It's insane. [00:50:20] I mean, it's like, it's how is this, like, how do either of these people, it's cool, it's cool that Bacon is really presented as like the good guy in a lot of these stories, too. [00:50:28] When it's like, no, he's a fucking hedge fund manager. [00:50:31] Yeah. [00:50:31] You know, he may not have, may not have molested thousands of young girls allegedly, but, you know, certainly he's friends with a lot of people who have. [00:50:42] And it's, yeah, it's, it's, I don't know. [00:50:46] It makes me sick. [00:50:48] Yeah, both of them. [00:50:49] I mean, yeah. [00:50:51] Like you said, the New York Times tries to present him as like a good guy. [00:50:54] And it's like, no, like every one of you is just continuing to abuse young women over and over and over again. [00:51:02] Like you said, for a fucking property dispute. [00:51:05] It's fucking disgusting. [00:51:06] And in case you thought maybe the authorities in the Bahamas would do something about this, no. [00:51:12] Peter Nygaard is very close with them and has, in fact, allegedly been paying off the police there to just not respond to any calls about what's going on in his house. [00:51:23] That reminds me a lot of Maria Farmer's story about being on Les Wexner's mansion, where she called the police and they were like, we work for Mr. Wexner. [00:51:33] Yeah, this is in the lawsuit, it says that Nygaard paid Bahamian police officers to quash reports, shared women, shared women, I just hate that statement, shared women with local politicians and groomed victims to recruit, quote, fresh meat. [00:51:52] That is also very familiar with the Epstein thing. [00:51:55] Yeah. [00:51:56] I mean, that was like his MO is he would, he would get women to, he would groom them or girls and get them to recruit other people from their high schools, etc. [00:52:06] All right. [00:52:06] I have to close my laptop. [00:52:07] I feel fucking sick. [00:52:08] Okay. [00:52:08] Well, he can suck my fucking dick. [00:52:14] Take him down. [00:52:15] Take him. [00:52:16] Take him. [00:52:18] Bourgeoisie, control the government. [00:52:20] The government. [00:52:22] We need to take him down. [00:52:24] Take him down. [00:52:25] Take him. [00:52:27] Take him down. [00:52:28] Bourgeoisie, control the government. [00:52:30] Control the government. [00:52:31] The government. [00:52:32] We need to take him down. [00:52:34] Take him down. [00:52:35] Take him. [00:52:37] So rounding up our updates. [00:52:40] You like that one, Liz? [00:52:40] Oh, that was cute, bracelet. [00:52:41] Liz just winked at me with both her eyes. [00:52:43] Oh, she's still winking. [00:52:44] That's not. [00:52:45] She seems to be breathing softly now, too, and snoring. [00:52:47] Oh, she's asleep. [00:52:48] That's not what's happening. [00:52:51] Yeah, so rounding out our updates of the week, we have stumbled upon a little exclusive. [00:52:58] I don't want to give away too much identifying information here because I don't want to. [00:53:03] I mean, I kind of do want to ruin this guy's life, but I'm not going to ruin this guy's life. [00:53:07] Yeah, I'm giving Brace the stink eye here. [00:53:09] Yeah, Liz was very against me. [00:53:11] I had a much larger presentation plan, but Liz talked me out of it, and she's probably correct. [00:53:16] I just, you know, I'm playing a little good cop ring. [00:53:19] If you remember from a previous episode, who which, I mean, don't, I don't remember. [00:53:23] We've done like 40-something episodes. [00:53:24] I don't fucking know. [00:53:25] Which is also so. [00:53:26] Can we just say that's so crazy? [00:53:28] Yeah. [00:53:29] Yeah, we should have done twice as many. [00:53:30] No. [00:53:31] Liz is lazy as shit. [00:53:33] Okay, that's not true. [00:53:36] Yes, it's not. [00:53:38] I lied. [00:53:39] That's not true. [00:53:40] Don't say that. [00:53:41] Winking. [00:53:43] Winking flirtally to you, listener. [00:53:47] Okay. [00:53:48] So you remember Alex Shirasi. [00:53:51] He was a Clinton appointee, or excuse me, a political appointee to the Clinton State Department Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs. [00:53:58] Yes. [00:53:59] Thanks to our thanks to our informant, the Baroness Milakunes. [00:54:04] Yes, the Baroness Milacunes. [00:54:07] Shout out. [00:54:07] She is not. [00:54:09] Well, he is not the only nephew of Ghelane who was a member of the Obama White House team. [00:54:18] Well, we should say also grandson to the late great, and I mean that in terms of mass Robert Maxwell. [00:54:28] Yes. [00:54:29] No, no, there was another nephew who, by the way, I will, I will, I'll refer to him as John here, which is not his name, but could be his name. [00:54:37] Could be his name. [00:54:37] Very common name. [00:54:39] Mine is James. [00:54:40] No, you think James is okay. [00:54:43] What about the name Forrest? [00:54:46] Yeah, I got a I got two friends named Forrest. [00:54:48] That's true. [00:54:48] I do know Forrest. [00:54:49] This is Forrest. [00:54:53] No. [00:54:53] Oh. [00:54:54] Cut that, please. [00:54:56] It was, yes. [00:54:59] So. [00:54:59] Wait, what are we naming him? [00:55:01] Calvin. [00:55:02] Calvin. [00:55:02] Yeah, this is Calvin Hitler. [00:55:05] No, that's too far. [00:55:07] No, this is Calvin Schopenhauer. [00:55:10] Calvin Calvin Ciano. [00:55:13] Calvin Ciano. [00:55:14] Count Calvin Ciano. [00:55:17] You know, it's the Duchess. [00:55:20] Son-in-law. [00:55:21] So Calvin Ciano is the daughter of the son of one of Ghelane's many siblings, who shall also be unnamed here. [00:55:33] Yes. [00:55:34] I mean, well, I could name all the siblings, but I'm not telling you which one it is. [00:55:37] Exactly. [00:55:38] He appears to have worked for quite a variety of places that would be of interest to our listeners, but we shan't tell you. [00:55:46] One of them, though, was working for Obama in Iowa. [00:55:50] That would be Barack Hussein Obama. [00:55:52] Yes, the one and only, the former president of Iraq. [00:55:57] Yeah, oh no, no, sorry, you fucked me up there. [00:55:59] No, the president of America. [00:56:01] Yeah, he worked for BHO in Iowa and then worked in the White House in two different capacities. [00:56:10] But that's not what we're here to tell you. [00:56:12] And by the way, that did not overlap with his cousin. [00:56:16] What's it? [00:56:17] What are two nephews called? [00:56:19] Cousins. [00:56:19] Cousins? [00:56:20] Yeah, with his cousin. [00:56:23] But it is very interesting. [00:56:24] They basically started there one year apart. [00:56:28] I will say he's moved on to greener pastures, though, because as you know, Barack Obama was the most inspiring presidential candidate in history. [00:56:37] But there's a new person who's exactly the same as him, except better. [00:56:42] Yes, and younger. [00:56:44] Brighter. [00:56:45] And fought against Al-Qaeda instead of being a member of Al-Qaeda. [00:56:51] That's right. [00:56:51] We're talking about Pete Buttigieg. [00:56:53] Mayor Pete. [00:56:55] The one and only friend of the podcast. [00:56:58] Mr. McKinsey. [00:57:00] Yeah. [00:57:00] So, you might be like, damn, fucking Obama was sick. [00:57:04] He inspired me. [00:57:05] I loved working for him for several years. [00:57:07] And then you're like, but I wish there was like Bernie Sanders is Jewish. [00:57:10] I don't like him. [00:57:12] And all the other ones who I can't remember their names. [00:57:14] So Pete Buttigej is my guy. [00:57:17] Yes. [00:57:18] Then you might be thinking exactly like Count Chiano. [00:57:22] So to sum it up, Ghillain's nephew works for Mayor Pete. [00:57:27] Well, yeah, he's at the very least volunteering as of recently as last week for Mayor Pete and replying to him on Twitter and being like, thank you. [00:57:35] He's also a militant atheist. [00:57:38] Is that a thing? === Pete Buttigieg: The Podcast's Friend (02:23) === [00:57:39] Yeah. [00:57:40] Well, not, I don't know if he's militant, but he's like into being an atheist. [00:57:44] He's not new atheism. [00:57:46] I don't know. [00:57:46] I don't really know the difference between new atheism. [00:57:48] New atheism is just an angrier atheism, right? [00:57:51] Yeah, I just associate it with like this, you know. [00:57:53] I'm mid-period atheist. [00:57:55] My atheism is from like the 1890s, where I like, I think me discovering that God doesn't exist is like a huge revelation. [00:58:02] You're just screaming around that you killed God. [00:58:04] I'm just like, God is dead. [00:58:07] And everyone's like, Brace, are you fucking? [00:58:09] That's crazy. [00:58:09] I'm like, I didn't kill him. [00:58:11] He just never existed. [00:58:12] And people are like, what? [00:58:13] What a crazy framing you just used. [00:58:16] But most Jews don't believe in God, anyways. [00:58:19] So, yeah, I just think that finally the Epstein exist has found its candidate. [00:58:26] That's right. [00:58:28] And thus, unfortunately, Truan is forced to make an endorsement in this race. [00:58:32] Oh, yeah. [00:58:33] We're going to have to endorse the Rat King, aren't we? [00:58:35] No, dude, we're endorsing Klobuchar. [00:58:37] Oh. [00:58:38] She's fighting with Pete right now. [00:58:39] We got to back our girl up. [00:58:42] She's a wild woman. [00:58:45] Yeah, I know. [00:58:46] I would love to see her languishing in a cell. [00:58:48] Oh, my gosh. [00:58:49] Yeah. [00:58:51] Well, Liz, I had a blast. [00:58:54] Oh, thanks, Brace. [00:58:55] I'm happy you did. [00:58:56] Know it's been so I haven't seen you in like two weeks. [00:58:58] That's not true. [00:58:58] Yeah, well, I just was. [00:59:00] I was you came over the other day. [00:59:01] I know, but I was on Xanax, so I don't really remember. [00:59:03] No, you weren't. [00:59:04] Yeah, it was on Zanik. [00:59:05] I off them bars. [00:59:07] Yes. [00:59:07] Oh, my gosh. [00:59:10] Our shows are sold out, so there's no point in us even mentioning that. [00:59:14] Sorry. [00:59:14] Yeah. [00:59:15] Well, if you didn't, you know, you can go in a couple years when we come back. [00:59:19] Maybe never. [00:59:20] Maybe I'll see you in heaven. [00:59:22] No. [00:59:23] In a couple years. [00:59:25] Oh, don't say that. [00:59:26] Yeah. [00:59:26] Well, they'll die. [00:59:28] Not me. [00:59:30] But they'll be able to look down. [00:59:31] Okay, okay, okay. [00:59:33] It is, I've had such a blast today. [00:59:36] My name is Fuck. [00:59:41] Liz, you go first again. [00:59:43] I'm Liz. [00:59:45] Fuck, I wasn't ready for it. [00:59:46] My name is Markov. [00:59:52] My name is Julius Martov. [00:59:54] And we are joined by producer Young Chomsky and Liz. [01:00:00] We will see you next time. [01:00:02] Bye-bye.