Straight White American Jesus - It's in the Code ep 185: “Who Are the Elites?”
Aired: 2026-03-25
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=== Academics vs Manual Labor (10:36) ===

[00:00:07]  Axis Moondy.
[00:00:08]  Welcome to It's in the Code.
[00:00:31]  A series is part of the podcast Straight White American Jesus.
[00:00:33]  My name is Dan Miller, Professor of Religion and Social Thought at Landmark College.
[00:00:37]  Pleased to be with you, as always.
[00:00:39]  And as always, I want to begin by saying thank you to those of you who listen to us and support us in all the different ways that you do, particularly our subscribers and yeah, just everybody.
[00:00:49]  We can't do it without you.
[00:00:51]  This series in particular, can't do it without you.
[00:00:53]  I need your insights, your input, your ideas for new series, new topics, new episodes, feedback on existing episodes.
[00:01:01]  And I have been soliciting responses on the theme of questions I was not supposed to ask in church or questions I was not allowed to ask in church.
[00:01:10]  And I would ask you to send me those.
[00:01:11]  Daniel Miller Swedge, Daniel Miller, S-W-A-J at gmail.com.
[00:01:15]  Send me those questions that got you in trouble in church, or maybe the questions that forced you out or the questions that got you a stern talking to by the pastor or somebody else.
[00:01:23]  Put that in your header, questions I wasn't supposed to ask.
[00:01:26]  That is the series that we are heading to next after we finish Josh Hawley's book on manhood.
[00:01:32]  So with that, I want to dive in.
[00:01:35]  As I mentioned, we're in Josh Hawley's book on manhood.
[00:01:39]  We've been here forever.
[00:01:41]  Feels like.
[00:01:41]  Every page gets worse and worse and worse with this book.
[00:01:44]  We are now in his eighth chapter where he lays out the fourth of his six roles that he insists men must take on to cultivate masculine virtue and save the country.
[00:01:57]  Six roles of the identifies.
[00:01:59]  The title of this chapter is Builder.
[00:02:02]  Okay, so the role that we're on is the role of builder.
[00:02:06]  And I've got to be honest, as I said, I'm reading this book as we go, and I haven't even finished this chapter because I just got so angry and frustrated at reading it.
[00:02:18]  Now, I don't like his book.
[00:02:20]  I don't like what Josh Hawley has to say.
[00:02:22]  I don't like what Josh Hawley stands for.
[00:02:24]  So, you know, I've been angry and frustrated for a while, but this chapter really, really, really got under my skin even more than most.
[00:02:31]  And as I've kind of reflected on why, I think it's because maybe more than any chapter in the book, it really illustrates what I think is the absolute double speak.
[00:02:40]  And I mean that in the technical or well-in sense of that term.
[00:02:44]  If you haven't read 1984 lately, go back, take a look, although it's going to remind you a lot of the present, so it could be triggering.
[00:02:50]  Be aware of that.
[00:02:52]  But the absolute double speak of the contemporary right and the MAGA elite.
[00:02:57]  And I very specifically use the term elite here.
[00:03:01]  It is a chapter that is chock full of contradictions.
[00:03:04]  It's full of non-sequiturs or just irrelevant points.
[00:03:07]  It's full of misdirection, just like the rest of the book.
[00:03:10]  But I don't know if any chapter so far has given voice to the willing reversal of the truth that is contained in these pages that, again, defines the discourse on the right, that not only, you know, wants to obfuscate things or blame the left, but just absolutely reverses the actual way that things work.
[00:03:29]  And so that's what I want to, that's what I want to do today.
[00:03:31]  I want to, I want to kind of try to bring some of that to light.
[00:03:33]  I want to get this off my chest, maybe rant a little.
[00:03:36]  We'll see how this goes in this first chapter looking at this theme of building.
[00:03:41]  And we can start with the most basic and probably the least maddening of the issues in this chapter, which is the actual theme.
[00:03:48]  Hawley says, again, the title suggests that the theme is building.
[00:03:53]  The role that men are supposed to play is that of builder.
[00:03:57]  And he supports this with a biblical example, not the one I expected.
[00:04:01]  We'll get to this.
[00:04:01]  I said last episode that I was pretty sure kind of where he was going to go with this.
[00:04:06]  Again, I'm reading the book as we go, and I was wrong.
[00:04:08]  It's a little bit surprising.
[00:04:09]  But he gives a biblical example of what he thinks is a builder.
[00:04:13]  And he gives another folksy example from his family life.
[00:04:16]  This time, his uncle Bruce, his dad's brother, who owns and operates a concrete company.
[00:04:21]  And through this company, he quote contributes and he builds.
[00:04:25]  That's what he has to say.
[00:04:26]  So building.
[00:04:28]  Got it, Josh.
[00:04:29]  Thank you.
[00:04:29]  Building, builders, etc.
[00:04:32]  But then it gets slippery.
[00:04:33]  He goes on to say, quote, the truth is that manual work of the kind Bruce done has become less and less valued in our society.
[00:04:42]  Manual work.
[00:04:44]  So I guess we're talking about manual labor of any kind and not just building in like a narrow sense.
[00:04:52]  In other words, he broadens his topic from building to manual labor.
[00:04:55]  It's not maybe the biggest deal, but there are obviously lots of kinds of manual labor that aren't building.
[00:05:01]  And then for the rest of the chapter, he broadens this even further to the concept of work as such.
[00:05:08]  And he says, this is not surprising, he says that men's social contributions, that their sense of meaning, that their social value come from working, but he doesn't specify what kind of work this is.
[00:05:20]  So it turns out the theme isn't really building as all as much, excuse me, isn't just building at all as much as it is just working.
[00:05:28]  He does seem to primarily have blue-collar work in mind.
[00:05:30]  He refers to blue-collar workers a number of times in this chapter.
[00:05:34]  And I think that's why he has to tell folks these stories about his relatives, once again, instead of stories about himself, because he doesn't do this kind of work.
[00:05:42]  I don't think he has any stories he can tell us about blue-collar work, which is going to be significant because he's going to tell us, as all the right-wing elites always do, the value of hard manual physical labor.
[00:05:54]  And there's nothing better than some dude who doesn't do hard physical manual labor, telling you how good and important it is, how much it builds character, etc.
[00:06:02]  I think we're going to get into that as we go through the rest of this chapter.
[00:06:05]  We're not going to get into it today as much.
[00:06:07]  But he tends to have blue-collar work in mind, but not completely because he also tells the story of his grandfather, not the farmer.
[00:06:14]  That was one grandfather.
[00:06:15]  He told the story about the farmer grandfather.
[00:06:17]  Now it's another grandfather who was the manager of a small storefront, JCPenney's.
[00:06:22]  So I guess we're talking about retail, not blue-collar, narrowly construed.
[00:06:26]  I don't know.
[00:06:27]  I guess what he has in mind is work that doesn't require a college degree, maybe, something like that.
[00:06:32]  At any rate, once again, right out of the gate, his presentation breaks down at basic points, which makes it kind of hard to figure out what the hell he's talking about.
[00:06:41]  Okay.
[00:06:42]  Fine.
[00:06:43]  That's, as I say, that's the most basic problem with this chapter.
[00:06:48]  I have a lot, though, to say about his vision of work and his diagnosis of it within American society.
[00:06:54]  But before we dive into that, I also want to note that I actually have a point of agreement with Holly.
[00:07:00]  I don't agree with our friend Josh much, but I guess I should note what I do.
[00:07:04]  On page 131, he says this.
[00:07:06]  He said, after saying that manual labor has become less and less valued in our society, he goes on to say, not least because the elites who set the cultural tone largely disdain those who work with their hands.
[00:07:17]  In other words, it's disdain on the part of elites is part of why this labor is not there.
[00:07:23]  Now, I have a lot about how I disagree with Holly here.
[00:07:26]  We're going to come to that, but I agree with this.
[00:07:28]  There are a lot of well-educated, high-income people in the U.S. who absolutely do disdain and look down on those who work with their hands, right?
[00:07:40]  People who do manual labor, physical labor, blue-collar work, what have you.
[00:07:44]  It's not everyone who's well-educated or high-income, but it is a lot of people.
[00:07:48]  And I think that that's a fair criticism to make.
[00:07:53]  Notice, I don't think that that, I didn't say that that's strictly coming from the left or something like that.
[00:07:58]  We'll talk about that as we go.
[00:08:00]  But I was reflecting on my own experience here.
[00:08:03]  I spend a lot of my time around academics, just to give an example I'm most familiar with.
[00:08:08]  Some from big name, prestigious institutions.
[00:08:11]  Most academics don't make crazy amounts of money, but some do.
[00:08:14]  Some make a lot of money, but it's certainly high prestige, certainly well-educated and so forth.
[00:08:19]  And some of those academics that I spend time with from those institutions, they are amazing down-to-earth people.
[00:08:26]  But some have exactly the kind of attitude that Holly points out.
[00:08:30]  I have heard more dismissive, throwaway comments about artisans or skilled laborers or day laborers or builders than I could probably say.
[00:08:40]  Just kind of throwaway comments about people who do that kind of labor.
[00:08:45]  And I've known my share of academics who at the same time that they're busy, like sort of looking down on those people as being below them in some way, they couldn't do so much as change attire or mow their own lawn.
[00:08:58]  But they'll look down on people who possess skills and abilities and capacities that oftentimes it has taken them years to perfect skills that they don't have or that they don't possess doing things they couldn't do, and yet they'll still be sort of dismissive of them or complain about how much they charge or suggest that, you know, I don't know, that they're living a lifestyle beyond what they should be living given what they do or something like that.
[00:09:23]  I've seen this.
[00:09:24]  It's not limited to academics.
[00:09:25]  I just use academics because that's an example that I'm familiar with.
[00:09:29]  But what I was reminded of is there was a few years ago, I was at a symposium and a lot of big, I'm not a big name academic.
[00:09:38]  I'm not from a big name academic institution.
[00:09:40]  Not everybody there was.
[00:09:41]  There were some grad students and things, but there were also some academics who were big names, well-established from prestigious institutions and so forth.
[00:09:50]  And there was one morning before everything got kicked off that the hotel we were staying at had this like patio area and we had coffee and stuff right in the symposium room.
[00:09:59]  So, you know, we'd poured a cup of coffee, you know, get a muffin, whatever, and we'd gone out to the patio area and lawn mowing was going on.
[00:10:07]  Landscaping company that mows lawns was there.
[00:10:09]  And I guess it was the day that they mow the lawn of this hotel.
[00:10:13]  And as they're mowing it, these two academics, big name guys from these prestigious institutions that I'm sitting with just drinking coffee were complaining.
[00:10:23]  They're complaining about the noise.
[00:10:24]  They're complaining about how rude it is for this person to be there at this time.
[00:10:28]  Don't they know that there's, you know, people are here working.
[00:10:31]  They shouldn't be here this early.
[00:10:33]  They shouldn't be doing this.
[00:10:34]  They should be more considerate.
[00:10:35]  Maybe we should talk to the hotel management and see if they can come back later.
[00:10:40]  And I gently, you know, sort of called him out.

=== Elites Disdain Working Class (05:59) ===

[00:10:43]  And I was like, you know, this guy's just doing his job.
[00:10:46]  He's just here working early.
[00:10:48]  He's going to be out in the heat and the sun working all day, mowing other people's lawns and doing these things and whatever.
[00:10:55]  And there's these two big name academics just talking trash about this guy who clearly, just the, again, the disdain that I felt from them for this person, it was embarrassing.
[00:11:07]  It made me ashamed to be sitting at the table with them.
[00:11:10]  And so I get that attitude.
[00:11:12]  I've heard that attitude.
[00:11:13]  And I want to note when Josh Hawley talks about the disdain of working class people, that's often a real thing.
[00:11:19]  It does come from cultural elites.
[00:11:21]  It does come from people who are well-educated.
[00:11:23]  It does come from people who have lots of money.
[00:11:26]  And that's a real thing.
[00:11:27]  So, Josh, hey, you know, if you're listening, I don't think you are, but if you are, I'm acknowledging that that is correct.
[00:11:34]  Okay.
[00:11:36]  But that brings me to what got me absolutely just boiling about this chapter.
[00:11:43]  And here it is, like Josh Hawley, as routinely, if you look at his public statements and things that he sometimes says and legislation that he proposes and so forth, he has positioned himself as a voice for, you know, quote unquote, working Americans.
[00:11:58]  But he is part of the political party that championed and has championed and continues to champion the economic and social policies that have absolutely gutted blue-collar America for the past half century.
[00:12:14]  And he has the nerve as a member of the GOP, as a member of the party that has gutted the working class for half a century.
[00:12:23]  He has the nerve to not only to decry the effects of his own economic ideology, but to blame precisely the political actors and activists who have sought to protect working Americans over that entire span to attack the political left.
[00:12:39]  And that is what just got me so angry and sort of fired up reading this chapter.
[00:12:48]  As a died-in-the-wool Republican, Hawley is the inheritor of a Republican Party that has embraced, and we can call it neoliberal or supply side or trickle-down or Reaganomics, whatever you want to call it.
[00:12:59]  They're all the same thing.
[00:13:00]  He has embraced those economic policies since the Reagan presidency.
[00:13:05]  It has been the economic orthodoxy of the political right and really the political middle since the Reagan presidency forward.
[00:13:15]  So his is the party that has extolled the virtues of unlimited free trade that led to the exodus of jobs overseas to countries without workers, worker and environmental protections that helped destroy American manufacturing and so many blue-collar jobs.
[00:13:30]  That was his party.
[00:13:31]  His is the party that has gutted public education in this country and refused to support retraining of American workers as the economy has had to shift.
[00:13:40]  You get all the jobs overseas.
[00:13:42]  You move away from manufacturing.
[00:13:44]  You get energy production that changes all those kinds of things.
[00:13:47]  So you have huge swaths of American workers who can't do the things that they were trained to do.
[00:13:52]  And his is the party that has gutted education and opposed any efforts to have systematic retraining programs so that people can get the skills that they need to do other work.
[00:14:03]  That's his party.
[00:14:05]  His is the party that made it a piece of economic orthodoxy that the highest goal of working is not the support of the workers, but the redistribution of wealth into the hands of CEOs and shareholders who get rich off the backs of workers.
[00:14:21]  Trickle-down economics, the whole idea that all the money should be funneled to the CEOs and the shareholders, and as they get richer, it will trickle down to the rest of us.
[00:14:32]  That's his economic orthodoxy.
[00:14:37]  His is the party that has enshrined a tax policy that taxes working Americans and wage earners at higher rates than corporations or the fat cat CEOs whose money comes from stock options or real estate or things like that, or capital gains, all of that.
[00:14:53]  You pay more in taxes as a wage earner.
[00:14:56]  That's his party.
[00:14:58]  His is the party that has worked to eviscerate American labor movements and sought to take away workers' rights and protections at every level and of every kind.
[00:15:08]  His is the party whose economic orthodoxies have led to the wage stagnation of recent decades.
[00:15:13]  So the people like me in real dollars make less than our parents.
[00:15:18]  And all the statistics about this being the first generation coming out that's going to be less well off than their parents and the generation before them and so forth.
[00:15:26]  Congratulations, Josh Hawley.
[00:15:28]  That's your party.
[00:15:29]  That's your political orthodoxy.
[00:15:31]  That's your economic policy.
[00:15:34]  His is the policy or the party that has made it so that so few Americans can afford to make a living as blue-collar or manual laborers.
[00:15:45]  One reason why there are so few people doing that is nobody can afford to do it.
[00:15:51]  And his party is the party whose economic orthodoxies have led to the greatest economic disparities since the Gilded Age.
[00:15:58]  That's Josh Hawley.
[00:16:03]  That's Josh Hawley and his party.
[00:16:08]  His is the party that built an economic system that explicitly and proudly prioritizes the well-being of economic elites at the literal expense of everyone else in society.
[00:16:20]  The highest good within neoliberalism is to funnel money to the economic elites.
[00:16:28]  That is the highest good.
[00:16:30]  And this guy, that guy, the inheritor of that economic policy and that kind of ideology, he has the gall to call out elites who disdain blue-collar work.

=== Masculinity and Builders (15:24) ===

[00:16:43]  Josh, I don't give a shit what your grandpa did.
[00:16:47]  I know who your political party is.
[00:16:49]  I know what its policies are.
[00:16:51]  I know what they have done to this country.
[00:16:53]  I know what they have done to blue-collar workers in this place.
[00:16:56]  You, my friend, are the elite.
[00:16:59]  Yours is the party that has done this.
[00:17:02]  Yours is the party that has built itself around the economic elites.
[00:17:08]  That's the gospel of your party.
[00:17:10]  You and people like this, you're the ones who did this to us.
[00:17:15]  So don't sit there and decry the elites who disdain labor.
[00:17:22]  And if you don't believe me, maybe you've heard Josh, you know, get on TV and say things about workers.
[00:17:30]  You say, oh, that sounds pretty harsh, Dan.
[00:17:31]  I don't know.
[00:17:32]  I don't know if he really thinks these things.
[00:17:34]  His choice of a biblical example of a builder shows this.
[00:17:38]  It shows that priority for the elites.
[00:17:42]  So I mentioned earlier that when he looks for a biblical figure to represent the builder, he doesn't go in the direction I thought that he would.
[00:17:49]  Now, if you're familiar with the Bible or you're familiar with sort of right-wing discourse about it, and somebody says, oh, he's going to find an example of a builder in the Bible like me, you probably expected him to cite Nehemiah.
[00:18:02]  Now, who's Nehemiah, if you don't happen to know that?
[00:18:05]  He's the guy who was tasked with rebuilding the walls of Jerusalem when the Jewish people are allowed to return to Palestine under the rule of the Persians.
[00:18:12]  So the Jewish people were taken captive into the nation of Babylon.
[00:18:18]  They're exiled from their city.
[00:18:20]  The Babylonians are eventually conquered by the Persians.
[00:18:22]  The Persians allow a portion of them to return back to their homeland and rebuild the city of Jerusalem.
[00:18:29]  And Nehemiah is the one who's sort of tasked with doing this.
[00:18:32]  And so people on the right, they love the story of Nehemiah in part because, you know, there's this whole builder thing, but also because he built walls.
[00:18:38]  I'm not kidding.
[00:18:39]  When they want defense about building walls, they'll go point to Nehemiah.
[00:18:43]  It's also the book of Nehemiah in the Hebrew Bible is pretty xenophobic in its tone.
[00:18:49]  There's some parts of the Hebrew Bible that sort of counterbalance that, but it's there.
[00:18:54]  And so people on the right love this.
[00:18:56]  They love Nehemiah.
[00:18:57]  So I fully expected that that's what he was going to pick.
[00:19:00]  And I mean, the book of Nehemiah is literally around a building project.
[00:19:03]  So it seemed like a natural choice.
[00:19:05]  But Hawley went in a different direction.
[00:19:08]  He tells the story of David.
[00:19:10]  If you know David and Goliath, it's that David.
[00:19:12]  But this is David later.
[00:19:14]  This is David after he's king of the Israelites.
[00:19:17]  So as king of the Israelites, David conquered the city of Jerusalem and made it his capital.
[00:19:24]  Okay?
[00:19:26]  So he conquers the city.
[00:19:27]  He makes it his capital.
[00:19:28]  And then Holly cites a couple verses from the book of 2 Samuel.
[00:19:34]  Reading from that, David took up residence in the fortress and called it the city of David.
[00:19:38]  He built up the area around it from the supporting terraces inward.
[00:19:43]  That's it.
[00:19:45]  Holly's biblical example hangs a lot on this, is one verse about King David that says he built it up.
[00:19:54]  He built up, it doesn't actually say Jerusalem.
[00:19:56]  It says the fortress, but he used to talk about the city of Jerusalem.
[00:19:59]  He built it up.
[00:20:02]  And here's why I think that's such a telling choice for him.
[00:20:06]  David didn't build anything.
[00:20:10]  Now, if you're listening to that, you say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up.
[00:20:13]  The Bible says that he built up the area around it.
[00:20:16]  Yeah, but he didn't.
[00:20:17]  Josh, David didn't build anything.
[00:20:20]  David didn't cut or haul the stones.
[00:20:22]  He didn't go down to the quarry and do all of that physical labor.
[00:20:25]  He didn't heft them into place.
[00:20:27]  He didn't make sure the grading was correct or that the walls were plum.
[00:20:30]  He didn't engineer the buildings.
[00:20:32]  He didn't do any of that.
[00:20:34]  He did none of it.
[00:20:35]  David, as king, because he's king, had a bunch of other people do it for him.
[00:20:42]  So in choosing King David as his example, Holly chooses exactly the kind of elite he pretends to criticize.
[00:20:50]  He chooses a rich and powerful man who can sit back and order those below him to do the literal work of building his capital.
[00:21:00]  And what that tells me is how natural a choice, how natural an interpretation this is for Josh Hawley.
[00:21:08]  That the guy at the top who doesn't do the literal building is the builder.
[00:21:16]  We can think of Donald Trump.
[00:21:18]  People talk about Donald Trump in real estate.
[00:21:20]  Donald Trump doesn't do anything.
[00:21:21]  He tells other people to do things.
[00:21:23]  That's how elites work.
[00:21:24]  They don't have to actually do anything.
[00:21:26]  They just point and say do it and other people have to do it.
[00:21:29]  That's his model.
[00:21:30]  King David sitting on his throne, directing other people to build stuff.
[00:21:35]  He chooses a rich and powerful man, a rich and powerful elite as his model of the builder.
[00:21:41]  And here's why I think it's an even more telling choice.
[00:21:44]  If he wanted to highlight work, like down in the dirt with your hands work, he could have still looked at David, but he could have talked about the younger David.
[00:21:55]  He could have talked about David the herdsman living rough and like living out with the animals and having to fight off predators and make sure that people don't come and steal them and so forth.
[00:22:05]  He could have talked about that.
[00:22:07]  He could have chosen the blue-collar David if he really wanted to.
[00:22:12]  If that's what mattered to him.
[00:22:17]  Excuse me.
[00:22:19]  But he didn't do that.
[00:22:21]  He chose the king, David.
[00:22:25]  And in making that choice, he shows us where his priorities are.
[00:22:29]  He shows us who he sees as the real economic driver and social force.
[00:22:33]  He shows us his neoliberal character.
[00:22:35]  He's not about workers.
[00:22:37]  He's about the elites.
[00:22:40]  It's not people like his uncle Bruce that he really valorizes or sees as the drivers or sees as the real men.
[00:22:47]  Remember, I mean, we've got the whole masculinity thing.
[00:22:49]  We're not even like getting into the masculinity thing as much as we are the sort of economics of this here.
[00:22:55]  But the whole masculinity thing, it's not really about his uncle Bruce.
[00:22:58]  It's the people who hire him to pour their patios and build their retaining walls because they can't, but because they're rich and powerful enough and have the means to have somebody else do it for him, for them.
[00:23:09]  That's his ideal.
[00:23:10]  That's his social vision.
[00:23:14]  And in making that choice for me, he absolutely reveals his indifference to the people who really work and build, despite everything that he says.
[00:23:23]  And he is completely typical of the political right in this regard.
[00:23:29]  He's simply expressing what has been the economic and Christian orthodoxy of the social and political right for decades.
[00:23:37]  They will talk about work and they'll talk about workers, but what they really mean is anything that benefits the elites economically, who are seen as the real drivers and the real people of value in society.
[00:23:52]  So all of that drives me crazy.
[00:23:55]  That makes me angry.
[00:23:57]  But it's not enough for Hawley.
[00:23:58]  No, it's not enough for Hawley, the political elite, to echo this elitist orthodoxy from one side of his mouth.
[00:24:06]  It's that he also has to decry so-called elitism out of the other side of his mouth.
[00:24:11]  He's speaking.
[00:24:12]  That's what I mean by the double speak.
[00:24:13]  He's saying both things.
[00:24:15]  He's endorsing elitism.
[00:24:17]  He's expressing his own elitism while critiquing elitism at the same time.
[00:24:22]  And of course, of course, of course, not only that, but he blames the decline of blue-collar work and its social value, not on the neoliberal economic policies that he and his party have championed again for half a century, systematically destroying blue-collar America.
[00:24:40]  Nope, nothing, nothing, Josh Hawley.
[00:24:42]  We're not going to talk about that at all.
[00:24:44]  Nothing.
[00:24:45]  No, instead, as always, he blames the liberals and the new Epicureans.
[00:24:50]  His standard accusations.
[00:24:52]  He says, for example, that the chattering classes of the 1960s caused the decline by insisting that such jobs were, quote, dead ends or degrading.
[00:25:02]  But what he leaves out, of course, is that when people talk about those jobs being a dead end, it's because neoliberal economics made them a dead end.
[00:25:10]  They made it so that most Americans cannot make a living doing that kind of work.
[00:25:17]  It literally devalued that kind of work.
[00:25:20]  It forced Americans to do something else while at the same time refusing them to give them the ability to do so.
[00:25:29]  It's so frustrating to me, I'll sort of tongue-tied here.
[00:25:32]  The modern Republican Party is built, is built on disdain for exactly the kinds of Americans that Hawley pretends to defend.
[00:25:44]  I think the scariest part is he might not even know this.
[00:25:47]  He might not even recognize it.
[00:25:51]  He might actually believe the story that he's telling.
[00:25:54]  I don't know.
[00:25:57]  But he once again not only has the gall to ignore that entire history, but to blame exactly what he and his party have done for decades on the people who have sought to counter that and have sought to fight for blue-collar working Americans who have sought to fight neoliberalism for decades.
[00:26:27]  He wants to blame those on the political and cultural left who have combated that neoliberal destruction of working class America.
[00:26:36]  And here is the most galling part of all.
[00:26:40]  His double speak works.
[00:26:43]  The Republican Party and the MAGA movement, they have mobilized culture war issues.
[00:26:48]  And you all know this.
[00:26:49]  If you listen to us, you know this.
[00:26:51]  They have mobilized culture war issues like abortion and anti-LGBTQ rights and anti-immigrant sentiment and xenophobia to rally the very people they have harmed for decades behind them.
[00:27:05]  So we now have millions of American blue-collar workers who support a billionaire president and his oligarch cabinet who have become rich off of their backs and their works and tax cuts that don't serve them and sending jobs overseas and all of it.
[00:27:22]  They have millions of those workers whose economic interests are diametrically opposed to the people that they vote for.
[00:27:30]  But they have successfully rallied around culture war issues to mask all of that and to build that movement.
[00:27:40]  And those same people, they will read Holly and they will believe every word.
[00:27:48]  They will blame the Bernie Sanders of the world or the AOCs or anybody else who's been fighting for their rights, fighting for fair wages, fighting for greater worker protections, fighting for greater regulations.
[00:28:02]  They will target any of them as their enemies while the oligarchs pull the strings.
[00:28:10]  And part of that is because a whole generation of ruling class Democrats also drank the neoliberal Kool-Aid.
[00:28:16]  I got to wind this episode down.
[00:28:18]  I don't have time to go into it, but you can email me if you want.
[00:28:22]  If you think I'm not giving it time enough, that's fine.
[00:28:24]  But we know there was a whole generation where this was Democratic orthodoxy as well.
[00:28:30]  Centrist Democrats, and I'm looking at you, Bill and Hillary Clinton, who also drank the neoliberal Kool-Aid, who bought in wholehearted.
[00:28:41]  That's part of why millions of Americans believe that story.
[00:28:45]  And they also know, we also know that part of why they believe that story is the Democrats took them for granted.
[00:28:53]  The lesson of the last election cycles has been that the Democrats and people on the left for too long assumed that they had the working class behind them.
[00:29:02]  They took their eye off of them, and then they fell prey to the demagoguery of Trump and MAGA and people like Holly and people like Holly who can dress it up and make it look nice and make it sound nice and tell you that they're just telling you good Bible stories.
[00:29:18]  And in the meantime, Holly and everyone like him make one final move.
[00:29:23]  And here it is.
[00:29:24]  After making it increasingly difficult to live in blue-collar America, making it increasingly hard for blue-collar Americans to survive, what is he going to do?
[00:29:33]  Is he going to blame neoliberal economics?
[00:29:35]  Nope.
[00:29:37]  Is he just going to blame the left?
[00:29:38]  He's not even going to stop there.
[00:29:39]  What he's going to do is challenge the social value or the masculinity of anybody who's supposedly not a blue-collar worker.
[00:29:49]  He wants to talk about a crisis of masculinity.
[00:29:52]  He says that one of the part of the crisis of masculinity is that men don't work, and he means the blue-collar working.
[00:29:58]  He says it's the crisis facing America.
[00:30:00]  He also said though, though, about marriage and kids and whatever else.
[00:30:04]  He says the crisis facing America is that men won't do this kind of work.
[00:30:10]  His party made it hard, made it nearly impossible, made it so that there's no incentive for doing that kind of work, and then challenges the masculinity of men who don't.
[00:30:23]  The crisis of masculinity that he identifies, that he thinks is so real that he wants us to buy into, it's a crisis he and his party perpetuated.
[00:30:33]  As I say, this chapter, this chapter really, really bugs me.
[00:30:39]  The economic stuff is not your cup of tea.
[00:30:41]  I promise we'll get more into what he specifically says about masculinity, how this kind of work ties into masculinity.
[00:30:47]  We'll get into how he's talking about David and those things in more detail.
[00:30:51]  But today, as I say, I had to get it off my chest, just the galling tone of this text of extolling the virtue and value of manual labor and blue-collar work from a guy whose party has done nothing but eviscerate that part of America for decades.
[00:31:08]  As I say, we're not done with Holly.
[00:31:10]  We're not done with what he'll say about builders or workers or masculinity and how it relates.
[00:31:15]  But for today, we need to wind it down.
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