Straight White American Jesus - The Stay at Home Daughter Movement and the SBC Aired: 2022-06-27 Duration: 05:13 === Ryan Returns (02:56) === [00:00:00] Axis Mundy Axis Mundy You're listening to an Irreverent Podcast. [00:00:17] Visit irreverent.fm for more content from our amazing lineup of creators. [00:00:21] Welcome to Straight White American Jesus. [00:00:36] My name is Brad Onishi, faculty at the University of San Francisco. [00:00:39] Our show is hosted in partnership with the Kapp Center at UCSB. [00:00:43] And today I'm joined by somebody who's been on our show twice before, and that is my friend and colleague, Ryan Stoller. [00:00:51] So Ryan, thanks for joining me. [00:00:53] Thank you for having me, Brad. [00:00:54] It's good to be back. [00:00:56] Last time you were here, I believe, if my memory serves, we were talking about Free Britney. [00:01:01] Yes. [00:01:05] We did that episode and then Brittany was freed. [00:01:07] So do you feel pretty good about like us causing that? [00:01:10] Or I mean, I don't, I haven't seen much mention of us getting the credit we deserve for that. [00:01:16] So I don't know. [00:01:17] How are you feeling? [00:01:19] I don't feel like we got the credit, but what I do feel good about is that there was a lot more media coverage about the religious side of that story. [00:01:29] And so I was really glad to see that journalists picked up on that afterwards. [00:01:33] Spoken like the man of integrity I know you to be, not the person full of nonsense that I am. [00:01:39] So, today we're here to talk about something that's actually quite disturbing, and that is something related to the Southern Baptist Convention. [00:01:47] Friends, if you've listened to our show, you know we've covered this. [00:01:50] I talked with Robert Downan of the Houston Chronicle about the What we call the the Southern Baptist Apocalypse in terms of just the release of a report related to abuse and cover-up that has gone on for decades Recently the Southern Baptist Convention was held in Anaheim, California Just actually where I grew up and they elected a new president one of the the sort of [00:02:15] Things that might have gone under the radar there is is not who was elected to be president of the SBC, but who was almost elected to be president of the SBC. [00:02:24] And so we're going to talk about that person. [00:02:26] And that person's name is Vaati Bakkam. [00:02:29] And get into why Bauckham is a truly scary individual, why the SBC nearly elected this person who has a patriarchal theology that is unnerving, even for those of us who kind of do this for a living and study this and learn about it all the time. [00:02:46] What Bauckham thinks and believes and teaches others is overwhelmingly terrifying. [00:02:52] Before that, let me just say, Ryan, you are the founder of Homeschoolers Anonymous. === Bauckham's Patriarchal Threat (02:16) === [00:02:56] You've been writing and blogging about homeschooling and child liberation theology for a long time, and you're now finishing a book, which I believe, and you're gonna have to correct me here if I'm wrong, It's tentatively titled Kingdom of Children, and it's all about those themes. [00:03:12] Can you tell us just a little bit about the book? [00:03:14] I know it'll be coming out here in a little bit, but what are you writing about? [00:03:17] Yeah, so I'm writing a piece called The Kingdom of Children, and it is a liberation theology for children, and so it looks at how we can use religion in ways that are empowering and uplifting and liberating towards children instead of controlling, oppressing, and punishing children. [00:03:39] So I look at, you know, different biblical texts, I looked at some child development theories, different religious education programs, and I try to encourage churches and other faith communities and religious organizations to rethink how they [00:04:00] deal with and interact with children in a way that recognizes that children are human beings with inherent rights and that, you know, children are capable of and deserve to be in charge of more in our world today. [00:04:18] Our world today is, you know, there's a lot of problems, but something that does not get talked about a lot is How children experience oppression in both personal and systemic ways. [00:04:31] Thanks for listening to this free preview of our SWADGE episode. [00:04:34] In order to get access to the full episode and so much more, become a Straight White American Jesus Premium Subscriber by clicking the link in the show notes. [00:04:43] It'll take you like two clicks, I promise. 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