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And since long before this recent American incursion into Venezuela that saw President Nicolas Maduro and his wife Celia Flores kidnapped and brought to the United States to stand trial in civilian court in the southern district of New York, it's just always been obvious that at the center of this situation is oil.
A lot of oil.
In fact, America's beef with Venezuela in the first place and the world financial system's beef with Venezuela, to be more accurate, kicked off decades ago when the Venezuelans decided we're going to nationalize our own resources.
We're going to protect our own people.
And they realized that in order to do that, they had to kick out the foreign corporations and the foreign interest groups that were selling so much Venezuelan oil that they were basically printing money at the expense of the American people.
The same userius tactics that we're all used to seeing now.
And we have been told over the years that there's a lot of reasons that we could or even should go to war with Venezuela.
We've been told that they're drug dealers and that they're communist dictators and that millions of people have lost their lives.
They've been murdered and killed by Nicolas Maduro and Hugo Chavez before him.
And on top of all of that, the big one, the one that we've been told for years, but especially recently, is that the Venezuelans are the biggest anti-Semites in the Western hemisphere.
So the explanation goes Venezuela must fall.
But again, at the very center of all of this is oil.
And now that's just become painfully obvious to anyone who even cares to research for about five minutes, so much so that our own occupied government is no longer even trying to pretend that this Venezuelan power grab is anything other than wholesale oil theft from a country that wouldn't grovel to them and their paymasters.
These people are criminals.
They're gangsters.
And they're turning our country into their very own little pariah state that just goes and steals from smaller, less fortunate countries that they've set out to ruin and gives not to the American people, but to the global elite.
Just yesterday, Trump said this.
He posted this on Truth Social, writing that, quote, I am pleased to announce that the interim authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 million barrels of high quality sanctioned oil to the United States of America.
This oil will be sold at its market price, and that money will be controlled by me as President of the United States of America to ensure that it's used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States.
I've asked Energy Secretary Chris Wright to execute this plan immediately.
It'll be taken by storage ships, brought directly to unloading docks in the United States.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, end quote.
I know you heard that.
I don't know if I have to point it out or not.
Trump said that he will be the one controlling the money that's brought in by way of stolen Venezuelan oil.
Well, first of all, it's not even legal.
Congress controls the government's purse strings, not the president.
But I mean, we're just so far past any semblance of normalcy or constitutionality in this country that just nobody cares anymore.
And they're just public about it now.
They're just public about using the American military and spilling American blood to enrich themselves and their donor class running buddies.
And they're showing no signs of stopping.
Instead, now they're talking about new countries.
The United States government has already sent its goons to seize Chinese oil tankers and Iranian oil tankers and all of the oil on board.
And just yesterday in this joint U.S. Navy and U.S. Coast Guard operation, the Trump administration boarded and seized a Russian-flagged oil tanker carrying Venezuelan oil, which Netanyahu says you're just not allowed to do that.
The Navy and the Coast Guard have been chasing this ship all over international waters for about a week.
And yesterday they made their move, which of course prompted a BRIC Nations response.
And this is exactly what I have been sitting here at this desk warning you about for weeks.
What we're seeing in Venezuela is not an isolated incident, but instead it's all part of an engineered worldwide confrontation that's on the verge of becoming incredibly violent.
And at this point, we could just safely say that we haven't seen anything yet.
These people that are pretending to run our government, not just Donald Trump, but minions like Lindsey Graham and Rick Scott and subversives like Howard Luttnick, are now telling us that this Venezuela operation is only the start and that next they'll invade country after country and steal everything that they can get their hands on, whether we're talking about Cuba or Greenland or Colombia or somewhere else entirely.
And so who is all of this supposed to benefit?
Is anybody talking about that?
Are middle-class Americans or really any Americans at all going to be getting a cut from these oil sales?
Is Donald Trump going to share all of this money that he's handling with the rest of us?
No, of course he isn't.
Because that money has already been spoken for by Paul Singer.
Now, if you haven't heard of him, Paul Singer is a Jewish political mega donor, closely tied to Miriam Adelson and APAC and, of course, Donald Trump.
Singer's actually one of the people behind Mega Kentucky, that new state-level APAC-style political action committee that's meant to take down Thomas Massey for not defending pedophiles and not cooperating with APAC and, among other things, not supporting the unconstitutional war that's brewing at this very moment.
And he's also closely tied to the flow of information, especially political information through the Washington Free Beacon, which is a neocon GOP establishment rag that Singer has spent years funding.
And very few people are talking about this, but some very serious information was just released yesterday revealing how closely tied Paul Singer, this Jewish billionaire Trump mega donor, is to this entire Venezuelan oil scenario.
This anti-American Jewish billionaire, who in addition to funding APAC and other political machines, is described as a significant donor to LGBT causes, who was effectively allowed to rent the United States military and order an invasion of another country to steal their oil and enrich himself.
And he did all of this, by the way, in the name of the American people.
This country's government, quite literally, is for sale.
And apparently, in selling themselves and in selling our country down the river, they're also now just taking it upon themselves to sell other foreign nations, other sovereign nations, countries that they don't even have control of yet, like Venezuela.
So what we're going to do now, I think, is just take a look at this article.
And this was published just the other day through Raw Story.
And we should take a close look and learn at exactly who Paul Singer is.
And this article is titled, Meet the Billionaire Trump Mega Donor that's set to make a killing from Venezuela attack.
And so it reads, one of President Donald Trump's top billionaire donors who has spent the past several months backing a regime change in Venezuela is about to cash in after the president's kidnapping of that nation's president, Nicolas Maduro, this weekend.
While he declined to tell members of Congress, Trump said that he tipped off oil executives before the illegal attack.
At a press conference following the attack, he said the United States would have our very large United States oil companies go into Venezuela, which he said the United States will run indefinitely and start making money for the United States.
So in other words, instead of requesting permission from Congress, which he's constitutionally required to do, Donald Trump requested permission from oil corporation overlords to attack Venezuela.
He wanted to make sure that all of these corporations were ready to go.
This is a merger of the corporation and the state.
This has nothing to do with American interests.
This has everything to do with bankers and executives and private equity and the foreign interests over on Rothschild Boulevard.
And the article continues: As Judd Legum reported on Monday for popular information, among the biggest beneficiaries will be the billionaire investor Paul Singer.
In 2024, Singer, an 81-year-old with a net worth of $6.7 billion, donated $5 million to America to make America Great Again, Inc., Trump Super PAC.
Singer donated tens of millions more in the 2024 election cycle in support of Trump's allies, including $37 million to support the election of Republicans to Congress.
He also donated an undisclosed amount to fund Trump's second transition.
They don't mention this part, but back in 2016, Paul Singer helped to fund and orchestrate the first Trump dossier.
This is the same guy, which should be proof to absolutely everyone that Trump is completely owned by these people.
First, they claim to hate him, and now he's giving them control over the U.S. military to steal another country's oil on behalf of their own purchases.
And we'll get to that.
The article goes on.
Singer is also a major pro-Israel donor, with his foundation having donated more than $3.3 million to groups like the Birthright Israel Foundation, the Israel-America Academic Exchange, Boundless Israel, and others in 2021, according to tax filings.
Which shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone because Paul Singer is Jewish and he's often described as a sane, him, a Jewish person that doesn't live in Israel, but of course devotes themselves to pro-Israel causes.
Oftentimes, these people are actually employed by the Mossad.
In November 2025, less than two months before Trump's operation to take Venezuela, Singer's investment firm, Elliott Investment Management, inked a highly fortuitous deal.
It purchased Sitco, the U.S.-based subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company, for $5.9 billion, a sale that was forced by a Delaware court after Venezuela defaulted on its bond payments.
See, all of this was orchestrated.
The United States government broke Citco and Venezuela as a whole, really, by making Venezuela illegal to purchase or to transport or to trade by sanctions.
And so this court-appointed special master who forced the sale, Robert Pincus, is a member of the board of directors for the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee for APAC.
So, of course, he is a member of AIPAC.
And Delaware is the state where all of the biggest corporations in the country and sometimes in the world plant their headquarters.
And the court system there is obviously structured accordingly.
So they rule in favor of Singer.
He gets the bargain basement deal to purchase Sitco, and then they go and they bankrupt Sitco and they bankrupt Venezuela and then send the United States military in to effect this regime change.
This is eerily similar to when Silverstein purchased the Twin Towers and then bought a big insurance policy on them.
Towers that, by the way, he had foreknowledge were just riddled with asbestos.
Just pull it.
The article goes on.
Elliott management hailed the court after requiring the sale in a press release saying that it was backed by a group of strategic U.S. energy investors.
Singer acquired the Sitco's three massive coastal refineries, 43 terminals, and more than 4,000 gas stations in a major discount because of its distressed status.
Advisors to the court overseeing the sale estimated $11 to $13 billion, while the Venezuelan government estimated it at $18 billion, and of course they would.
So, do you see how this works?
An APAC director sits on the bench while an APAC donor goes into court and forces the sale of Sitco to himself for pennies on the dollar.
It goes on.
As Legham explained, the Trump administration's embargo on Venezuelan oil imports to the United States bore the primary responsibility for the company's plummeting value.
Sitco's refiners are purpose-built to process heavy-grade Venezuelan sour crude.
So, as a result, Sitco was forced to source oil from more expensive sources in Canada and Colombia.
Oil produced in the United States is generally light-grade.
This made Sitco's operations far less profitable.
Again, all of this was orchestrated.
The United States government and its stooges devised a strategy to crush Sitco by making it impossible for them to do business with anyone else and turn a profit.
So, they created this catch-22 situation in which, either way, Sitco and Venezuela would lose, and they could either continue doing business and eventually be overwhelmed by the cost, or they could sell out to people like Paul Singer and go to court over it.
And in the end, of course, they're in a court controlled by members of his tribe, and so Singer wins.
Quote, it is the preferred modus operandi for Singer, whose hedge fund is often described as a vulture capital group.
As Francesca Floretini, a commentator at Zillio, explained, Singer is famous for doing things like buying the debt of struggling countries like Argentina for pennies on the dollar and then forcing the country to repay him with interest plus legal fees.
The same userius tactics that we have been highlighting on this show here for like three years.
And we're going to war over this.
Singer is actually credited with inventing vulture capitalism, where you prey on and destroy other people's businesses or countries and then just take them for yourself.
You take their countries and you take their resources.
Venezuelan vice president and minister of petroleum, Del Codriguez, called the sale of Sitco to Singer fraudulent and forced in December, which it was.
After the U.S. abducted Maduro this week, Trump named Rodriguez as Venezuela's interim president, and she was formally sworn in on Monday.
But he warned that she will pay a very big price if she refuses to do what we want.
That's good news for Singer, who's expected to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of an oil industry controlled by U.S. corporations, which will likely not be subject to crippling sanctions.
So, here's a translation for you: What they're saying here is that Paul Singer gets to decide when the United States goes back into Venezuela and kills 80 more people or a whole lot more for oil.
So, Paul Singer gets to decide, not Congress, not the commander-in-chief, Paul Singer, this Jewish billionaire Trump mega donor, gets to decide when the United States military sends its young men to go and kill other people or to be killed in the process of trying to steal oil for Singer.
So, if he decides that Delcey Rodriguez just isn't cooperating, then according to this, he'll just call in a hit, not on her, but on her entire country.
Singer has reportedly met with Trump directly at least four times since he was first elected in 2016, most recently in 2024, where it's unknown whether the two discussed Venezuela during those meetings.
Groups funded by Singer have pushed aggressively for Trump to take maximal action to decapitate the country's leadership.
Donald Trump is literally taking orders from these people.
That's what these meetings are.
They can say the topic of discussion is unknown or that it's this or that it's that, all they want to, but we know what the truth is.
Paul Singer, when he comes into town, Benjamin Netanyahu, they're rolling into D.C. and they're barking orders.
Since 2011, Singer has donated over $10 million and continues to sit on the board of directors for the right-wing Manhattan Institute think tank, which in recent months has consistently advocated for Maduro to be removed from power.
In October, it published an article praising Trump for his, quote, consistent policies against Venezuela's Maduro.
Yeah.
They praised him because Paul Singer is the one who is dictating these policies to Trump, along with a big fat check.
He's also been a major donor to the neoconservative think tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies, the FDD, serving as its second largest contributor from 2008 to 2011 with more than $3.6 million.
In late November, shortly before Trump announced that the United States had closed Venezuelan airspace and began to impound Venezuelan oil tankers, FDD pushed a policy brief stating that the U.S. has capabilities to launch an overwhelming air and missile campaign against the Maduro regime that could be used to remove him from power.
More instructions.
All of these people are intertwined.
When you're the CEO of one firm and you're on the board of directors of several more and you make donations to NGOs and you swallow up all of the power and influence that you possibly can until you find yourself in the Oval Office across from Donald Trump, apparently calling the shots, this is right out in the wide open.
They are just selling the use of the military to these Jewish billionaires so that they can go topple countries, kill people, or be killed in the process.
Doesn't matter, not their blood, to steal this oil.
Who voted for Paul Singer?
The Jew?
It's not like your vote counts anyways.
But if you did, who voted for this guy?
Who voted for Paul Singer?
And speaking of voting, the article goes on here.
Singer himself has acted as a financial attack dog for Trump during his first year back in office.
In June, he contributed $1 million to fund a super PAC aiming to oust Representative Thomas Massey of Kentucky, who had become Trump's leading Republican critic over his Department of Justice's refusal to release its files pertaining to the billionaire sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.
A super PAC tied to Miriam Adelson, another top pro-Israel donor who recently said that she would give Trump $250 million if he ran for a third term, who, by the way, going away from the article again, gave Trump $100 million his last election cycle, and then her dead husband, Sheldon Adelson, over $100 million in 2016.
Also reportedly helped to fund the campaign against Massey.
Yeah, that PAC is MAGA Kentucky, which is the state-level arm of AIPAC.
And it has descended onto Thomas Massey's district to push Ed Galreen, which is this Zionist military veteran who's been hanging out with Trump in the Oval Office, probably getting instructions from Paul Singer as well, overhearing conversations, being a fly on the wall, being programmed, and just biding his time until a rigged election, probably paid for by Paul Singer and Miriam Adelson, puts him into office.
That's why they want to destroy Thomas Massey.
Where was Paul Singer when Thomas Massey's wife died?
The article continues: As the Trump administration has asserted that American corporations are entitled to the oil controlled by Venezuela's state firm, Massey rebutted this weekend saying that it's not American oil, it's Venezuelan oil.
Oil companies entered into risky deals to develop oil, and the deals were canceled by a prior Venezuelan government, he said.
What's happening?
Well, lives of U.S. soldiers are being risked to make those oil companies, not Americans, more profitable.
And soon, the lives of those very same U.S. soldiers are going to be taken from them.
And not just in Venezuela, but all over the world.
We have agitated with Iran.
We have stolen their oil.
Now, Russia, just yesterday, we have stolen their oil.
We intercepted a Panamanian-flagged oil tanker that was owned by China, and the proceeds were going to the CCP.
Every corner of the world is where we are going to send our young American men to go and die for Paul Singer and his ilk.
As this NATO versus BRICS showdown, which I've been warning you about, which in part is paid for by Paul Singer, all of this is taking shape now.
What other countries does Paul Singer want to get a hold of?
Are Paul Singer and Larry Fink going to go into Greenland?
Do they want Cuba?
Do they want Colombia?
They're going to get in a bidding war over virtually every country, as far as this thing is concerned, around the world.
And whoever writes the biggest Trump check will get access to our military.
Just write a check.
That's what this is.
Our government, Trump, our military, it's all for sale.
Massey said that Singer, who's already spent a million dollars to defeat me in the next election, stands to make billions of dollars on his distressed sitco investment now that this administration has taken over Venezuela.
Florentini added that Paul Singer's shady purchases of Sitco has everything to do with this coup.
And that it does.
There's just no other way of putting it.
The United States government and the people who own the United States government have kidnapped the president of Venezuela and the First Lady of Venezuela so that they can go into that country and rape its resources and oppress its people and just kill everyone that doesn't go along with their multi-billion dollar oil racket.
And this is only the beginning.
Trump's been in office for less than a full year and the donor class is already calling in not just strikes, but full-blown invasions of sovereign nations in Latin America.
We no longer even have a government, not a legitimate one at least.
This country is run by a pedophilic multinational crime syndicate.
The steel cartel is operating right here, right now, within our borders, on Rothschild Boulevard and in the White House.
Jeff Berwick was with us on the program yesterday, and we were diving into the Western medicine, big pharma, industrial complex and nanotechnology and all of the weapons that our enemies have at their disposal for this unrestricted warfare campaign on the American people's health.
And that includes you and your family.
And one of the most important things that you can do in times like these, of course, is be healthy and protect the health of your children and your family because they have all of these weapons.
We can't trust mainstream doctors.
So we have to have weapons of our own.
And we now do with the Tesla technology and the plasma technology that you could bring into your own home via the Tesla machine if you have a membership in the Tesla Club, which you can learn more about by going to tzla.club.
And I didn't know anything about this until I went to Anarchipoco last year in Acapulco.
This year I'll be going again.
It's in February in Puerto Vallerta, but I was at Jeff Berwick's home in Acapulco and he told me that he was a member of this private club where he's experimenting with a plasma machine, similar to what Nicola Tesla developed over 100 years ago, but then it was stolen, as Jeff said, by Donald Trump's uncle and the CIA.
And the tech has been hidden from us ever since.
But he says that this mad scientist in Mexico had figured out how to generate plasma even better than Tesla had done.
And Jeff had one of these machines.
He had one of the first machines.
Well, I've had this bad shoulder, my right shoulder, and it was very painful for years and years.
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And obviously, I was skeptical.
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I'm telling you, I'm not here to convince you.
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But the goal is to, you know, eliminate, you know, anything, you know, foreign in your body.
So we use these supplements, these medications for a point in time in our life, eliminating anything that lowers your vibe.
This imperialist agenda, it's just so reminiscent of Toby Keefe.
Yeah, we'll put a boot in your ass.
That's the American way.
And we send our military into sovereign nations in our own hemisphere to go and kidnap their presidents and their wives and beat up their wives.
Did you see that photograph of Celia Flores, Nicolas Maduro's wife, when she appeared in court in the southern district of New York?
She had black eyes and bruises all over the place.
That's what we're doing.
We're just going and we're kidnapping foreign leaders in sovereign nations and bringing them back to the United States.
And why?
Well, as we just covered, to make sure that the Jewish billionaire Trump mega donor class is all set, that they're all taken care of.
And Paul Singer is going to make billions of dollars off of what Donald Trump has referred to as sour crude oil because he purchased Sitco at a bargain basement price, just like Larry Silverstein purchased the Twin Towers at a bargain basement price because they were riddled with asbestos.
Well, guess what?
We can fix that, can't we?
We can fix that.
Let's take out a big insurance policy and then pretend that planes flew through these buildings, except for, whoops, Building 7, which, of course, he's documented.
He's on TV.
He's on video saying pull it.
We decided we just had to pull it.
And if the rackets from private equity on Rothschild Boulevard using the American military to go and affect regime change wars and to create the Trump Gaza resorts with golden statues and golden toilets.
You heard Alex Jones.
He said, well, Trump has always, he's always loved private jets and flying around.
He's always loved that.
And his family, they've always loved being really rich and, you know, have golden toilets and statues.
So really?
A golden toilet so that Donald Trump can sit down and take a big shit on America and on Americans.
And if you haven't figured it out yet, yeah, we're getting ripped off.
Every single year, American taxpayers surrender over $2 trillion to federal income tax.
I mean, what a racket.
An income tax that, by the way, at its very nature is a weapon that has been forged against the American people to keep us in change, to keep us subservient, to keep us enslaved, to force us down the barrel of a gun that we pay for, by the way, to prop up a government that has completely weaponized itself against its people that it claims to serve.
Just think of all of the monstrosities that the American people have been forced to fund by way of this federal income tax under the threat of consequence.
The illusion of the threat of consequence.
Your money is being used to ferry millions of invaders into this country and then to provide them with lavish lifestyles and fake daycares so that after their all-expenses paid trip to America, they can just take up permanent illegal residence in our country and they don't have to worry about spending a moment of their time, oh, I don't know, working for a living because they're being handed your money.
My money, our money.
And it's not just foreign invaders that are benefiting from this.
It's foreign nations as a whole.
The United States has sent Israel, for example, around $175 billion in military funding alone.
Your tax dollars are being used by Ukrainians to purchase villas in South Florida and resort town mansions in Switzerland while American citizens are living on the streets with heroin needles sticking out of their arms.
And domestically, your money is going to fund the mutilation and the castration of our children.
We live in a country where no matter which party is supposedly in control of the White House, the blue pedophiles or the red pedophiles, the blue Zionists or the red Zionists, the fake Democrats and Republicans that we're presented with as this idea that they're mortal enemies going to Washington, D.C., and they are just duking it out.
They're in the ring and they are fighting in a cage death match to make sure that they are properly representing their constituents from their congressional district.
That's fake.
Federal tax dollars are being funneled into gender-affirming care clinics and public school districts where children are groomed into lives of depravity and misery by taxpayer-funded teachers with blue hair.
No matter if it's Biden in the White House or if it's Operation Warp Speed Zion Donny Trumpenstein.
And on top of all of that, your money is being used to fund the biological warfare that has been waged on the American people.
Speaking of Operation Warp Speed, who the hell do you think paid for that?
We did.
Just as we paid billions of dollars for Donald Trump to join forces with the likes of Bill Gates and Larry Ellison and Sam Altman, all of which are regulars in the Oval Office so that they can usher in the next wave of vaccines, which will be manufactured by artificial intelligence and filled with nanotechnology.
Oh, yeah.
And of course, your money is also going to pay the salaries and the benefits and the pensions of the pedophiles that are pretending to run this country on Capitol.
These people vote on their own pay raises.
Okay, they vote to hide evidence of themselves on tape molesting children.
And then they turn to the American people with their hands out and they say, give us more.
We're going to put you in prison.
We're going to take your house.
We're going to repossess.
We're going to seize all of your assets.
They don't deserve your money.
Okay.
And to put it more accurately, they don't deserve your earnings because that's what they're taking away from you.
It's your hard-earned money.
It's your earnings, the money that you have earned to provide for yourself and to provide for your children and your family and your own fake government, this occupied entity, this corporate crime syndicate, this organized crime ring of gangsters that commits crimes on the high seas, acts of piracy, going in without congressional approval.
Oh, but you know what Trump did have?
He had the approval of oil corporation executives.
So it's pretty clear, we're not going to vote our way out of this.
Nobody's riding in on a white horse to save this country.
No matter who we send to D.C., nothing changes because it doesn't have to.
There's no accountability.
The political class has access to an endless, an infinite spigot like no other.
And as long as they have that access, well, they're going to weaponize this government against the American people.
Just like they're doing right now.
So what can we do?
Well, we could stop funding the beast.
We could stop paying into the beast.
The income tax is unconstitutional.
And the federal government relies on your complacency and your apathy and your fear of consequences in order to manipulate you into paying into this racket.
We talked a lot of times before on this program.
We brought Payman Motaheda from Freedom Law School on this program multiple times.
And we have said that it may be the most American thing that anybody could possibly do outside of owning as many firearms and as much ammunition as possible to stop paying taxes.
Our ancestors went to war in large part over a 3% tax on tea.
The least that we could do is band together as Americans and cut off our anti-American fake government.
And this, of course, was once considered a fringe idea.
Well, not anymore because programs like this one and men like Payman Motaheda have smashed the Overton window, informing the American people of their rights, like their right to not pay or file federal income taxes.
And now everyone from your next door neighbor to Marjorie Taylor Greene is floating the idea of cutting off the cash flow to DC.
Payman Motaheda is the founder of Freedom Law School, where he has been pushing a tax revolt of his own for years now.
He's what you could call one of the modern day forefathers of this tax revolt.
So for more discussion on cutting off the feds and taking back control of our own wallets and our own country and our own destiny, we're now joined by Peman Motaheda.
So thanks a lot for coming back.
I always appreciate having you.
Thank you for having me, Stu.
Yeah.
So Marjorie Taylor Greene is floating the serious idea of a tax revolt.
She's saying we don't need to fund these pedophiles in Washington anymore who are just running around stealing oil tankers and agitating with all of the BRICS nations, where we will find ourselves in a situation where all at once, simultaneously, America will be at war and young Americans will be sacrificing their lives to go and fight all of Israel's enemies all at one time.
And it's happening.
Look at Gaza.
Over 90% of Gaza, a city of 2 million people, has been flattened.
About 100,000 people or more are dead with our tax dollars.
That's why, soon, when I was in my 20s, I heard about income tax fraud.
I said, let's stop giving our money to them Republicans and Republicrats.
They both are two heads of the same snake.
And over 30 years, I've been teaching people to legally and safely tax strike and don't pay the tax because legally there is no law that requires the people of the 50 United States to file and pay federal income taxes.
To begin with, the law was written deceptively, even in 1913, to be constitutional to apply only to District of Columbia and its territories.
And to this day, the people of the 50 states are not required by law, as written, to pay one dime of income taxes, payroll taxes, corporate taxes, estate taxes, gambling, or even gun manufacturing taxes.
None of that is written for the people of the 50 states.
All the services that we expect from governments, like police, sheriffs, court system, roads, schools, all of this is paid by our local property, sales, and other taxes, not by the federal taxes that have deceived us to pay this monster that the federal government has become.
So I say it's overdue.
We are overdue.
That's why we call it now this year, 2026, tax 2026, like it's 1776.
I like that.
You know, President Trump, who campaigned as the peace president or the president of peace, has become the first president in American history to bomb seven countries during one term.
And he's done it all in less than a year.
And now, as we have learned, this Jewish billionaire Trump mega donor, Paul Singer, is the guy who's benefiting from this incursion in Venezuela that saw Nicholas Maduro, of course, kidnapped and brought to the Southern District of New York, where he's going to face charges in an American court.
That seems unprecedented.
This guy's going to make billions of dollars.
And so, essentially, what he did is he used the taxpayer funding, which funds the military, to rent the military and send it in to seize all of this oil.
And it's no different.
This is nothing new.
The same thing as we are funding Ukraine and as we are arming Ukraine and as we're arming the Azov battalion and we're funding all of the necessary components that lead to mass graves in the Donbass, which has happened under Zelensky's watch.
And now, who sits on top of those rare earth mineral deposits?
BlackRock.
When we went and we took back the Panama Canal, Donald Trump said that he was going to give that back to the American people.
What did we do?
We gave it to BlackRock.
When Hurricane Helene hit, and the Trump administration was saying, well, the people of Western North Carolina are going to get like 70 bucks or 700 bucks or 170, whatever it was, some nominal amount.
The lithium deposits, it's the most lithium-rich area in the entire country.
And BlackRock has seized control of that as well.
So the U.S. taxpayer is funding the military and funding allegedly all of these programs that are supposed to be meant to help and assist Americans in plight.
And instead, 100% of that is being turned over to private equity that enjoys its headquarters on Rothschild Boulevard to the likes of BlackRock and Blackstone, who, by the way, are buying up unprecedented amounts of residential housing in our country as well.
I don't think that they should be allowed to do that, but they are.
I don't think that they should be allowed to manipulate our election process.
And they are.
They don't have to register as foreign agents.
So we're funding our own demise, quite literally.
And now, finally, Marjorie Taylor Greene, who was in Congress for quite some time, I mean, she knows how the government works.
But now that she's out of government, she is kind of pushing people along toward this tax revolt.
So what does that actually look like?
What is a tax revolt act?
You've been teaching this for a long time.
It's very simple.
If you're an employee, you can legally and safely stop your employer from stealing money out of your paycheck, income tax withholding, by going to our website, freedomlawschool.org.
The instructions are there clearly.
The form is there.
Everything you need is on our website along with petitions to send your Congress members letting them know: hey, I want to take a stand on this thing and you need to take a stand on this issue.
So that's what they got to do.
Go to freedomlawschool.org.
Now, if you're not an employee, if you're self-employed or independent contractor, simply stop sending those quarterly estimated payments to the IRS.
If you're an employer and you have employees working for you, do not require them to give you a W-4 form to legally allow you to steal money out of their paychecks to send to the DC swamp.
No more sending in W-2 forms to the IRS, 1099 forms, K-1 forms, no tax return filing by anybody with the federal government if you're in the 50 United States.
They simply cannot get all of us already.
IRS is an absolutely failed communist, irresponsible agency.
One of the Doge members, okay, that was sent to the IRS to help them.
Okay.
And he said that, you know, none of the people in there, over 50 people that head up their information technology division of the IRS to run the computers, not one of them is the computer coder.
That's why, since the 1960s, the IRS's computers have not been updated.
They have over 100 different computer systems that they do not talk to each other.
They are so broken.
The only thing that's keeping the system going is that income tax withholding that the employers are doing.
Without the employers sending that money out, the paycheck of people to the IRS first, the whole system will collapse.
Independent contractors, so easy.
There's no withholding problem.
Just stop sending money to the crooks.
You don't think that these people will physically come after us and try to kill us if collectively everybody just said, you know what, we're not going to pay your taxes anymore.
We're not going to do that.
We're not going to file our taxes.
We're not going to pay them.
So Americans better be ready to fight because they're going to come for us just like they have gone for entire nations that refuse to comply with the Rothschild central banking cabal.
And where have we seen this?
We've seen it in Iraq.
We've seen it in Libya.
We've seen it in Syria.
We've seen it in Lebanon.
We've seen it now in Venezuela.
President Trump and Lindsey Graham are on Air Force One saying, oh, yeah, you haven't seen anything yet.
Just you wait.
Cuba, Colombia, Greenland, anybody that doesn't have a central bank, they're going to target them.
Why wouldn't they target Americans inside of their own borders?
Because there's simply too many of us.
There's already, based upon IRS's own best estimates, there's over 80 million Americans who every year do not file those 1040 income tax confession form under oath, who no longer put the rope around their neck by signing that 1040 form and giving it to the IRS.
That's what gets you.
You sign that form as a business owner, independent contractor, even employee.
That's how you owe the IRS money.
The employee, however, has a problem of his boss.
They steal the money out of his paycheck because of a W-4 form he allowed his employer to steal his money to give to the IRS.
Well, guess what?
You can put exempt on that form properly, correctly on the W-4 form.
Stop your employer from stealing your money.
We have had never ever a problem with employers said, no, we absolutely refuse to do this thing.
No, because we follow the law and even the IRS's W-4 form instructions show you how you can file exempt and stop the income tax withholding from your paycheck.
And that will crush the system because the money will not be coming into them anymore.
A lot of Americans would be very nervous about not filing or paying federal income taxes because they have heard all of the horror stories about people having their assets seized and people going to jail and having chains put around the doors of their businesses.
What do you say to those people?
That is all propaganda and lies, just like the propaganda about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.
Let's go destroy them.
About the Corona hoax.
Oh, if you all don't get the vaccine, you'll die of corona.
Go six feet apart and double mask.
All of that is simply lies and propaganda.
IRS is a wizard of Oz that the corrupt major media has created in your mind, along with the accounting, CPA, tax attorney, specialists, those guys, just like the doctors who told you, go get the vaccine, these so-called experts tell you to file and pay income tax.
Stop listening to these liars who get paid to have you get the jab and get paid for you to sign on the 10, 40 income tax form and pay income tax.
And a lot of this charismatic preachers, Christian preachers, oh, they don't want to lose that tax exemption status with the IRS, which they don't need to be afraid of to begin with.
So they'll tell you, oh, pay your taxes so you don't get in trouble with the IRS.
It's all incessant, repeated propaganda.
Look at me, Stu.
For over 30 years, I've not filed and paid $1 of income tax.
IRS has not taken $1 from me.
And I've been under criminal investigation and other investigations since 1994, including today.
They've never even been able to indict me.
None of my students who have come to me clean and stop filing and pay income tax with Freedom Law School clean have ever gone to tax prison, nor had their bank account or paycheck levied by IRS, nor their home or property taken.
There is the facts.
Can't argue that.
And by coming to you clean, you mean that they don't currently, you know, owe back taxes based on a fraudulent confession that they were coerced into making previously, that they were duped into, that they were tricked into, that they were fear-mongered into making.
Right.
Nobody knows this until they know this.
I mean, don't shame yourself if you have been paying, filing, and paying federal income taxes, you know, for your entire life.
I mean, we all got duped by that.
You see movies about it.
You see, and of course they put this on TV intentionally.
You know, you see people getting jammed up.
You see all these people talking.
Remember back when people still kind of believed that there was this two-party representative constitutional republic and the radical left was just, I mean, these people were just lunatics and everybody, all these, you know, I bleed red, white, and blue conservatives were, you know, they were, look at Al Sharpton.
He doesn't pay his taxes.
Turns out Al Sharpton was kind of hip to the game.
And that guy's never gone to prison.
Do you really think that Zion Donnie, Operation Warp Speed, Trump and Stein, do you really think that this guy's paying federal income taxes?
Remember when they said, will you disclose to us your income taxes?
Remember, they always make this a big deal when people are campaigning for president.
Are you going to reveal to us?
Are you going to show us?
Are you going to allow the world to scrutinize your federal income taxes?
Well, probably not because they probably don't pay them.
Because these people play by a different set of rules, and they know that there is no law in the books that requires Americans to file and pay federal income taxes.
There is no law in the books that requires you to submit to this uniparty corporate crime syndicate that runs around the world, sticking its missiles and sticking its agenda and causing mayhem and destruction and mass casualties and death everywhere that it goes while it inserts its perverted agenda into these other countries and pushes this global homo transgenderism and all of this woke not.
We're doing that everywhere we go.
That's spreading democracy.
And if you look at Afghanistan, it turns out, well, even those people would rather have the Taliban than anything that the United States was bringing their way for two decades at the end of a U.S. taxpayer-funded gun barrel.
So, I mean, like, if you're sick of this, if you don't want the militarization of your streets, if you don't want the Insurrection Act being successful, which that's what Minneapolis is setting us up for, this is the big psychological operation.
This is the crisis that they will capitalize on.
Whether what happened in Minneapolis with that ICE agent payment or not, and the U.S. citizen being shot in the face three times, I have seen all kinds of people, people that I know, justifying this federal agent's actions.
Well, you know, a vehicle is a deadly weapon.
Yep, sure, I understand that, but there's a whole lot more to this than that.
You know, do you think that that means that these people shoot this woman in the face three times or more and that that's the punishment that an American citizen deserves for trying to get away from, you know, unidentified men with guns wearing masks, jumping out?
Like, I don't know.
You know, and this person was supposedly one of these watchdogs, and she was, you know, the internet is calling her a Karen.
Did she deserve to die?
Did she deserve to be shot in the face?
I struggle with that one.
And when people are talking mass deportations, they could expect to see a lot of this.
And we can get into that.
I mean, that's kind of a whole human aspect to all of this that we really need to expect that this is going to happen.
But what we can expect for sure is that the federal government is going to use that crisis to ramp up surveillance and to get closer and closer to the idea of Trump instituting the Insurrection Act.
And that would mean that there is no local state, federal, there's no local county or state law enforcement.
The military will be used to patrol the streets, and we just become one of these third world countries that we always point at and say, man, I'm really glad that I don't live there.
I'm really glad that I live in America.
We're funding all of that.
We have no one to thank for that other than ourselves.
And if we want to stop it, we can.
FreedomlawSchool.org is the way to do that.
And I would imagine that just by hearing you, I mean, you've kind of laid out how simple all of this is.
There is no constitutional amendment.
There is no federal law in the books that requires Americans to file and pay federal income taxes.
And you have given the instructions: just stop.
Just stop.
In 2026, just stop.
Don't file them.
If you're self-employed, don't send in the estimated quarterly payments.
And I would imagine that people could do that and they would be just fine, but you offer at freedomlawschool.org something that's different so that these people don't feel alone or like they're on an island and that they have your expertise and that they have your track record to back them up, which is that none of your clients that have come to you clean have ever ended up in jail, had their bank account seized or their paychecks garnished or levied against.
So is that what that is that you're insuring people?
Is there a guarantee on any of this?
Talk about the services that Freedom Law School has to offer before we get out of here.
Well, first of all, I want everybody to stop feeding the swamp for free.
I don't want your money.
If you're poor, if you got small children, you keep your money because your children deserve all of the money that you work hard to provide for them.
Because young and poor generally go together.
Number two, those of you who have the spirit of founding fathers in you, in your heart, in your mind, and you want to stand up for the truth, and you really want to be part of this peaceful restoration of a republic nonviolently.
You can tell your children and grandchildren, you were part of that.
Big major effort that paid off.
We offer this opportunity for everybody to get together, pool together our resources in a restore freedom plan.
We are much more powerful if you do this thing together.
So all we do is we take 30% of what we would have otherwise paid the DC swap to the criminals and enemies of the American people through the IRS.
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I don't know what better thing I could offer than that.
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Stop funding it.
You don't have to do it.
And you see these other so-called dissident alternative media broadcasters?
They're not talking about this.
They're legitimizing the system that has been weaponized against you.
They're an op.
If they're talking about the radical left and if they're pointing at the left, if they're pointing at the Democrats and they're blaming everything on the Democrats and they're telling you to go vote harder and telling you to support Trump and that they're saving Israel for last and that there's some 6 million D chess being played here and to trust the plan, they're the enemy.
They are propping up and they are legitimizing the very entity, the beast that is coming for your children.
So when you come across a real one, when you come across programs like this one who are telling you, look, there is a way to get out of this.
There's a way to stop all of this, these forever wars and the agenda that is targeting your children and that you are funding.
There's a way to get out of that.
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A white female American citizen called Renee Good was shot in the face and killed by an ICE agent who's in Minneapolis as part of the fake mass deportation operation that we're told is directed towards Somali invaders.
But instead, just like we have seen in every other city where these headline grabbing, minimal deportation, fake raids are taking place, the brunt of the government's use of force has not been directed toward the invaders, but instead has been directed toward the citizenry, which in my opinion has been the plan the entire time.
The American people were told on repeat throughout the entire 2024 election cycle that if they would just support Donald Trump one more time, that the upwards of 50 million illegal invaders in this country would be put on notice.
And before long, men with masks and guns would be coming to their doors and taking them into custody and ushering them away and sending them back to where they belong, back to where they came from.
Well, that hasn't happened.
It hasn't happened at all.
Instead, throughout the entire year of 2025, as we saw in cities like Los Angeles and Chicago and Washington, D.C. and Charlotte targeted by these federal agents, less than a million total illegal invaders were kicked out of our country.
Less than a million, much less.
In fact, according to the Trump administration's own numbers, they deported around a half a million illegals.
And according to independent estimates, it was even less than that.
So, I mean, just think about how ineffective these people have been.
The most well-known deportee, Kilmar Obrego Garcia, this hardened gangbanger and wife abuser known to the media as the innocent Maryland dad, was sent back to El Salvador and then brought right back into our country.
And he's been released from custody and he's living in this country illegally right now and no one is doing a damn thing about it.
Mass deportations have been fake and a complete and total failure and not a failure in the traditional sense of the term because they haven't actually been attempted.
And they're not going to be.
Instead, these so-called made-for-TV deportation, fake raids, and immigration enforcement operations are being used to facilitate violent confrontations between American citizens and federal law enforcement and everyone else that gets thrown in the mix to turn these cities into even bigger hellscapes,
and they already are, and create a set of circumstances that's needed to usher in the totalitarian crackdown that will lead to the implementation of the volunteer-style AI surveillance state that people like Donald Trump and- JD Vance were put into power to Implement.
At this point, how the entire country isn't seeing this for what it really is is just beyond me.
These mass deportations were a lie from the beginning, and now so-called conservatives are being gaslit into cheering on the murder of an American citizen by federal law enforcement who herself was gaslit into being there in the first place.
She was made to believe that she was part of some kind of a color revolution, part of a social justice counterattack against a fascist regime.
But that's not what this is.
That's not who these people are, not in the least.
Instead, just like the American troops who've been sent all over the Middle East to serve as cam and fodder, as sitting ducks, and act as bait for an Iranian-backed terror attack that will no doubt facilitate full-scale war, people like Renee Goode have been sent out into the streets of our country by their political overlords to serve as bait for yet another year of rioting all across our country that will give these people the pretext needed to shred the United States Constitution.
So yeah, we're swimming in extremely dangerous waters here.
And it's an absolute tragedy that Renee Goode, who was the mother of three children, including one whose father was preceded by her in death, was convinced by this sick and depraved psyop society that we live in to take a female lover and insert her children into that situation and then to drop those children off at school and go out into the streets and face off against federal agents.
Not on behalf of her kids, not on behalf of her neighborhood or her family or even herself, but instead on behalf of invaders who hate her.
What do you think that they would do to her in Mogadishu if they got their hands on a white American lesbian who professes to be a Christian?
But for some reason, for some reason, people like Renee Goode and a whole lot more have been convinced that defending the very same people who would do unspeakable acts to her if given the chance is the entire reason that they're alive.
And all of that has led up to all of this.
It's all led up to an American citizen, a mother being shot like a dog by an ICE agent who deliberately put himself into harm's way.
We have video footage of this shooting teed up.
Let's go ahead and air it.
No!
Shame!
Oh my fucking god!
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
You just fucking, what the fuck did you do?
You are fucking criminals!
You're fucking criminals!
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
What the actual fuck?
You are fucking insane!
What did you do?
What did you do?
You!
Shame! Shame! Shame!
Okay.
I'm trying to help!
No!
No!
You fucking shot someone!
You shot someone!
Do you have a conscience?
Do you have a conscience?
Don't let the murderer leave!
Don't let the murderer leave!
You guys are the fucking criminals!
You don't get to tell us what to do!
Fucking criminals!
Don't let him leave!
Don't let- Pussy motherfuckers, man.
No, get- WTF I- We fucking know it!
We're here!
What the absolute fuck!
Do you have a conscience?
This is the time, man!
This is the time to have a conscience!
This is not okay!
This is not okay!
Get the fuck out of here!
You didn't put any weapon there!
Fucking your people, man!
In the head!
You, look at me, look at me.
Watch out!
Why don't you look at me?
You can do it.
You okay, mommy?
There's quite a bit to unpack in that video.
First of all, it's impossible to not notice how cold the behavior of just about everyone involved with this situation was.
You have the ICE agents that were totally unfazed by a white American citizen being shot in her own vehicle in the face in the middle of a public street by one of their own.
And then you have some of these people that were in the crowd that didn't seem too concerned about the victim, only with escalating tensions with ICE.
These people on both sides seem to be completely fixated on one another.
They don't care about the victim.
They certainly don't care about the Somalis that ICE is supposedly in our city to deport.
Instead, both sides, the paid tyrants that were sent out by the federal government and the paid street soldiers who were sent out by their Bolshevik political handlers, only care about creating chaos.
And as for the shooting itself, immediately after it happened, there were conservatives and members of the Trump administration out in force claiming that this was a totally legal act of self-defense on behalf of this ICE agent who fled the scene.
But was it really?
Because if we look at a slowed-down version of this video, it's really easy to see that the agent who shot Renee Goode dead put himself directly in front of her vehicle as another agent told her to move forward.
He stood right at the hood of her vehicle.
And then he shot her as soon as she started moving forward, which again, she was ordered to do by one of his coworkers.
a look at this slowed down version of what happened here he wasn't run over He wasn't run over by Renee Good.
And he was never going to be.
He was pushed aside by her vehicle as he stood right in front of it.
This didn't have to happen.
But it did.
And now both sides of the equation here have gotten exactly what they want.
The Trump administration can claim that it's been vindicated and continue militarizing the streets of American cities and battling the American citizens as they deport just about no one.
And political operatives on the other side of the fake aisle can pump up their foot soldiers with 2020-style hysteria and continue giving the government the pretext that it needs to attack our people.
Just take a look at the response from Mayor Jacob Fry, this clown in Minneapolis who got down on his knee to George Floyd and who dances for the Somalis.
And now he's pretending to be Mr. Tough Guy telling ICE agents to get the F out of Minneapolis.
But I do have a message for our community, for our city, and I have a message for ICE.
To ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.
All of these people should get the F out of Minneapolis, including the Somalis who were brought into our country and dropped off in the middle of our city in anticipation for a moment just exactly like this one.
This is all part of a long game strategy, a long game that sows a lot of confusion and a lot of destruction and a lot of death.
As of today, crowds of people that have been bust in from all over the place are out on the streets in Minneapolis clashing with ICE agents and members of the Border Patrol and other various law enforcement agencies, as well as the Minneapolis police.
No one is actually being deported because the feds are too busy fighting American citizens.
And now you have creeps like Tim Walz who are trying to harvest a civil war scenario out of this situation.
Listen to this guy.
We have soldiers in training and prepared to be deployed if necessary.
I remind you, a warning order is a heads up for folks.
And these National Guard troops are our National Guard troops.
They're teachers in your community.
They're business owners.
They're construction professionals.
They are Minnesotans.
Minnesota will not allow our community to be used as a prop in a national political fight.
We will not take the bait.
We will continue to update you, Minnesota, as we get more information.
So what's he going to do here exactly?
Is he going to send these National Guard troops out into the streets with no bullets in their guns like he did in 2020?
Or is he going to send them out there armed to the teeth to exchange fire with the feds and send this country into an even deeper tailspin than it's already in?
He says, oh, I'm not taking the bait.
Yeah, well, that's exactly what he's doing because he's part of this.
He's an actor, just like the rest of them, and he's playing his role, just like everyone else with any bit of political power or influence in this country who's jumping right into the middle of all of this.
It's taken less than a day for the reverberations of what happened in Minneapolis to be felt all over the country, just like they were in 2020 after the death of George Floyd.
Crowds have taken to the streets in American cities from New York to Los Angeles.
And once again, you have talking heads on channels like Fox telling us that we should be very afraid of the left-wing mobs and we should ask for the federal government to come in and save us all.
Just as the talking heads over on CNN are telling us, well, we should pour out into the streets and stage a revolution that they themselves will never get anywhere near.
Both sides have a role to play here.
The so-called left riots in the streets and the so-called right responds.
And caught up in the middle of all of it are hundreds of millions of American citizens that just want to get by.
They just want to have their country raise their kids, live a normal life.
And living among them are tens of millions of invaders who are here to stay because mass deportations were fake from the beginning and they were never going to happen in the first place.
I saw Owen Schroer's take on this over on X.
I invited him on and graciously on short notice, he has agreed to join us to that end.
He joins us now.
Owen, thanks a lot for being here.
Your take on Minneapolis, Renee Good, and the feds in the street clashing with American citizens now.
Well, Stu, I think that people need to understand that you're one of the few people in the media that is based in Minneapolis and has a national show.
So I think that your opinion on this has a little more gravity than others, since you're right there on the ground and you understand this specific issue, but the larger issue of Minnesota politics in general.
So I just think that that's worth noting here.
I, you know, this is going to upset a lot of people on the right.
And the truth is a lot of them have become very delicate in recent months.
A lot of them are afraid to offer any criticism of this administration.
So I don't know why I put that pre-qualifier out there, but I do anticipate people are not going to want to hear this.
But I think eventually it's going to become a larger talking point.
Renee Goode is now the left-wing Ashley Babbitt.
She is.
She is now the left-wing Ashley Babbitt.
And I'm not equating these two things.
I'm not saying these two things are equal or parallel, but they're close enough.
And I think the response is close enough and the situations are close enough that this is basically now the left-wing Ashley Babbitt.
And I anticipate it'll be used in a similar fashion.
Now, when we spoke earlier, I know that you had expressed concerns that this is going to turn into the BLM George Floyd style riots.
I'm still not convinced they're going to get that much violence out of this.
I think BLM is a little more violent than your average, say, white liberal person that is out here protesting this.
But there's no doubt all sides are getting exactly what they want, as you just said.
The Trump administration now has their excuse to increase AI surveillance, increase the security state, increase powers and protocols for ICE, which we'd love to see that if the mass deportations were happening.
And perhaps it's fair to say that maybe they're running into issues because of these protesters.
But Stu, I tend to, whenever something like this happens, I tend to just dive right past the surface because the surface ends up becoming nothing but landmines of propaganda.
And I like to go to the root cause, which you're getting at here.
But I'm looking at Pam Bondi today.
I'm looking at Pam Bondi.
I'm looking at the Department of Justice and I'm saying, none of this happens if you guys do your job.
And Pam Bondi has been saying for months that she's going to get to the bottom of these organizers.
She's going to get to the bottom of these funders who fund these left-wing protests, who are funding these activists, getting out in the streets, getting in the way of ICE, getting in the way of law enforcement.
And she hasn't done it, period.
It's not been done.
And maybe there's some more details that need to emerge about this incident yesterday, but I think it's fair to assume that clearly there was some prior knowledge by these protesters that were out here.
So that means they probably got a text, an email, some group said, hey, there's an ICE operation in your city.
Get out there and protest.
And so they did.
This has been going on for months.
And so they went out there.
They protested.
This ICE officer stands in front of a vehicle, gets hit, fires three shots, kills a woman.
She's probably out there because she knew that this was going to happen.
She decided that she was going to go out there and protest.
And now a woman is dead.
And I'm not surprised by the callous response of the administration.
I'm not even surprised by the callous response of, let's say, Trump supporters that are kind of getting behind the rallying cry and supporting ICE.
And you can support ICE and what they're doing and say, hey, maybe this agent made a mistake or, you know, maybe this is both people made a mistake.
I don't know.
I think there's still a lot of debate that needs to happen.
There's a lot of details that need to emerge.
But again, I just look at the root cause.
If Pam Bondi had gone after the organizers and the funders of all of this, I don't think any of this happens.
I don't think there's people in the street.
I don't think there's people getting in the way of ICE vehicles.
I don't think there's ICE agents getting in the way of people's vehicles.
I don't think any of this happens.
But because Pam Boni has been derelict in her duties, because Pam Bonnie has not delivered on these promises to shut these operations down that are blocking ICE enforcement, now you have an American, a mother of three, dead, which was a gruesome scene, I'm sure, for the people there.
Now, I do wonder, how can an officer shoot somebody and leave the scene?
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that there are protocols and training because they talk about, oh, he was following his training.
He was following his training to use deadly force when you're in front of a car.
This is all going to be debated.
It'll eventually come out in court.
But is your training to leave the scene after you shoot somebody?
I'm pretty sure the training is you have to render aid.
It might even be the law.
I don't know.
It could differ in different states, different jurisdictions, but I don't know how you can shoot somebody and then not render aid and then leave the scene.
I think that that could end up hurting this individual's case when it does get to court.
As a bounty hunter, I can tell you that even in the most justifiable situation where the use of deadly force is deployed, if I would not have rendered aid, that I would have been charged with felonies.
You know, I mean, I think all the way up into like murder two or manslaughter.
And, you know, the thing that we have to consider here is that the people that are in the streets doing this, as far as the feds are concerned, they are 100% yes men.
They will do whatever they are told to do.
And that's evidenced by the fact that during the Biden administration, this is the same group of people, these CBP, ICE, they're all the same people.
They all work under the same umbrella, the DHS umbrella, and they all work on border security.
So immigrations and customs enforcement and the Border Patrol, CBP, they're one and the same.
And these are the same people that during the Biden administration were down there literally cutting Costertina razor wire and allowing these people in because that's what Alejandro Mayorkis and the Biden administration were telling them to do.
It's the very same people who are now going into these major metropolitan areas, likely forecasted.
And I agree with you.
I think that these text messages no doubt are sent out.
I think that it's a fallacy that Jacob Fry or that Governor Walls had no idea that these people were going to be operating in their streets.
They absolutely do because I think that a lot of them, including that shooter who left in a vehicle with Minnesota plates, that could mean one of two things.
Either it's a rental that happened to have Minnesota plates on it, but I don't think so because it's a law enforcement vehicle that's equipped with law enforcement equipment.
And so I believe that that is likely a police officer or a sheriff's deputy that works for another agency in Minnesota full time who's assigned to one of these ICE task forces.
And so, yeah, I mean, does the law apply to him under Minnesota state law?
Is it superseded by federal law?
The dangerous part about this is that these people are willing to take orders to harm Americans and they will carry it out.
Well, we don't have too many details about the man that took the shot, but the White House was reporting today that apparently he's been in a similar situation twice.
Apparently, he's been hit by a vehicle twice.
We've even seen, I've seen one video of this happening.
I think it was six months ago.
So we're still kind of not sure the details of the individual that took the fatal shot.
And obviously, those details are going to be kept pretty tight, pretty protected until they can legally be released or until this gets to court or maybe perhaps charges are filed, which I anticipate are inevitable.
So I don't know if that really helps or hurts his cause because he didn't fire a shot previously.
So he's been hit by vehicles before and he's never felt the need to fire a shot.
So now he's going to have to answer as to why he decided to fire the shot this go around.
But really, this was my analysis.
I think that, you know, all things equal, remove your own political biases from it.
Just be a fair neutral observer.
I think, I think you look at this and you say, maybe the first shot can be justified.
Maybe the first shot he takes, you could argue that that was justifiable when she first is moving the vehicle towards him and makes first contact and he fires the first shot.
But the next two shots are fired and his body is well cleared of the vehicle.
Clearly, he's not, you know, we see all the drama.
Oh, he's recovering in the hospital.
Well, he seemed to be quite fine enough to fire two shots, potentially those being the fatal shots.
It looks like the reports are all three shots hit her, including at least one in the head.
So he fires the two shots after the vehicle clears his body.
I think those shots are going to be harder to justify.
I don't really know if that's going to help him when this reaches a courtroom.
So I think that that's the fairest take.
I think this is going to be a highly debated and contested issue, as these things are.
You're going to see the split on the left and the right, as you always do.
And then you're going to see both sides coming at the people in the middle that are just trying to be fair, neutral reporters on this.
And then it's going to come out in court.
But I do think it's a fair thing to sit here and weigh against the Ashley Babbitt shooting and say, how does this compare?
How does this contrast?
How did each side react?
And then how is it going to be used by each political party to reach an end here?
And we're already starting to see that.
But I go back to the root cause.
If Pam Bonnie does her job and if Pam Bonnie follows through on the promises that she made to stop this, then none of this happens today, Stu.
Well, I want to talk about that.
Two things.
Number one, you know, you said that you didn't think that this would spark off like a nationwide 2020, you know, repeat.
Are you attributing that to the fact that you think that they're not going to try?
Because being here, I can tell you, and you've probably seen this national news coverage, it was almost immediately that these people were there on the scene with pre-printed signs and banners, even t-shirts.
So they were ready for it.
They're trying to deploy these same tactics.
Do you think it's going to be the unwillingness of the American people?
Do you think it's going to be because it is a white woman?
You mentioned that BLM obviously is more violent.
Yeah, I do think race is a factor here.
I do think when we look at the most violent riots, it was mostly BLM.
And this is part of the psyop that you talk about.
This is part of the culture that I know you cover as well.
I don't know if the white liberals are so willing to engage in violence like that.
And maybe, you know, if you really want to get into the economic status here, most of these white liberals probably have a lot more to lose than, say, some people that might go out there in a Black Lives Matter riot who may be more inclined to just get involved with some troublemaking.
I don't know.
We saw a lot of white people being very violent, you know, on behalf of George Livingston.
Well, it's fair.
It's fair.
But we also saw people in Minnesota, including the mayor, say, hey, we're not going to do the George Floyd riot.
So I think the Democrats at a political level realized that that was bad for them politically.
I think that they realized it didn't really help their bottom line when it comes to winning elections.
But there's no doubt the agenda is on.
So I'm of the mindset right now, they're not going to get the violent riots.
Obviously, the people are already in the streets.
You just pointed out they already had, you know, they seem to be well prepared for something like this.
But I think that the Democrats know the violence doesn't help them politically.
This isn't a Black Lives Matter movement, which is known to be the most violent movement in the streets when we see this stuff.
So I do think that they would like that.
I do think that there are parties at play that would like to see this get violence, including maybe people on the right, so that they can have an excuse for a surveillance state.
I just don't think it's there, Stu.
I don't think they have it in them.
I don't think it's the right people that are going to do this.
Time will ultimately tell.
Maybe we'll know by this time next week.
But what I do anticipate is unless Pam Bonnie does her job, this might happen again, Stu.
This might happen again.
And maybe it's not a white woman next time, or maybe it's not a civilian in civilian clothes next time.
So that's my fear.
And then if you have another incident like this, or God forbid, it's a child, now the left, that violent streak, now that might get stroked a little bit, and then I would be more concerned about that.
But right now, I don't think they're going to get too violent in response to this.
What do you think the reaction would have been if that ICE agent would have shot a Somali?
Hmm.
Well, the right wing might be doing, they might be doing celebration dances.
I say that, I guess, a little bit in jest, but they do seem to love targeting the Somali community up there and having fun with that.
I think there would probably be more of an outrage because they would have started calling it a hate crime.
They would have said it was a targeted hate crime, and they probably would have gone with that angle here to derive more hatred and more anger.
So I do think if it was a Somali, now, funny enough, CNN had Omar Fateh on, the Somali representative for Minnesota.
They had him on all night covering this.
So they injected this into the Somali community as soon as they could.
But yeah, I'm guessing if it was a Somali community.
Yeah, because that was supposed to be one of you.
They were actually sent there to kill you and your tribe.
You know that, right?
I mean.
Yeah.
So they tried to play up the storyline.
They tried to play up that angle on CNN.
It didn't really hit.
But no, I would imagine then the left would be going with the hate crime angles.
And I guess this woman was a lesbian now.
I don't know.
She was prior married to a man who had deceased and had kids with him.
And now she's in a lesbian relationship.
I don't know what that's about.
So I don't know.
What about a Mexican or a Venezuelan?
We can anticipate a lot of Venezuelans pouring into our country, of course, in this engineered migration crisis that'll hit our country.
It'll hit our borders in T minus 10 seconds.
If it were a Mexican or a Venezuelan, do you think the reaction would be different?
I do.
I do.
And this is all because this is all dictated by how the left responds.
And we know that they love the race card.
So I do think it's, I mean, you could argue that it's kind of sad that because this was an actual American woman or even a white American, that she gets the least amount of outrage.
I mean, I guess you could say that that's kind of a sad series of events here, but I think that it's undeniably true.
So what about the overarching picture then?
Because there's a human aspect to all of this.
And I was having a conversation with Alex Roundtree.
He works for me last night till like two o'clock in the morning about this.
Because my position has been deport them all.
My position has been, look, if there's going to be a leader of our country that's actually willing to effect mass deportations, unlike this BS that we're seeing from Trump, it was never the plan.
It was all fake.
It was all lies.
And we were never going to see that.
But you're going to have, you know, Latin American immigrants.
You're going to have Mexicans.
You're going to have people from all over the world that have come here and they have established.
And they have other people here, Americans here, that love them, that care about them.
They are their neighbors.
They might own a Mexican restaurant in town.
They might have a dry cleaning business.
They might have a nail salon.
They're well-liked.
They're contributing members, business owners in society.
But we wanted to deport them all.
And so you want to deport them all until, of course, guys like this converge onto your city and they grab Tranquilino or they grab Jose, the neighbor down the street, and then he's gone.
And they're violently just stripping him out of here and getting him out of the country.
I think that we would see, we would anticipate seeing pockets of violence like this in a true and organic sense, not in the manufactured sense like a lot of the things that we're seeing now.
I think that in a natural human reaction, there would be violence against the feds.
So what is the real line here?
What is it that people really want?
Does the mass deportations, deport them all crowd, really want them all deported?
Or is this selective?
Is this something where when somebody gets hemmed up on some other violent criminal charge and they happen to be in illegal that we do what we used to do and we ship them the hell out of here and they don't come back?
Or is it a military operation that goes coast to coast and we just say, hey, listen, this is going to be some unprecedented discomfort that Americans living in 2026 are just not used to seeing.
But this is what you voted for, and I'm a man of my word, so I'm going to do this.
But what would you anticipate would happen there?
Would these conservatives that are cheering all of this up, would they really support that?
I think yes, actually.
And I think that we're seeing that in the callous response to this woman getting shot, which is a tragic situation.
And they don't seem to view it that way.
And look, I get it.
We're all sick of the left in the streets.
Okay.
We're all sick of the left in the streets.
And really, I'm not here to defend this woman.
This woman put herself in that position.
She did not obey law enforcement orders.
She resisted arrest.
So I'm not even defending her.
Now, does that mean she deserved to die yesterday?
I'm not arguing that either.
But, you know, if you go skydiving and your parachute fails and you die, well, you went skydiving.
You knew that was a risk.
When you decided to get into a fight with law enforcement, you know you're taking your life into your own hands.
If you go skydiving and the parachute fails, it is an equipment failure.
If you go into the streets to try to protect your political cause or to try to stand up for the immigrants that you love in your neighborhood and you see the militarization of your streets or the weaponization of your federal government, which everybody can admit in some way that it's been weaponized against them, whether they're a white, natural born American citizen or if they're an illegal from Somali, the government's been weaponized against everybody collectively.
But that isn't a mechanical failure.
That is a human making a judgment call to shoot a woman in the face because she didn't follow an order from a guy wearing a badge and a mask on.
Let me address your question then because I understand where you're getting and I think that that's fair.
I almost think now if ICE decided, because there were other incidents yesterday in Minneapolis where they're getting bear-maced and shot with paintballs and all of this stuff.
I'm to a point now where I think a lot of people on the right, if they saw ICE agents just line these people up and shoot them all dead, that they'd celebrate it.
So I think the answer to your question is yes, Stu.
I do think that they would be okay with by any means necessary.
But again, let's go to the root cause here.
What does this country need?
We need 20 million deportations minimum, minimum, 20 million, maximum, probably 40 million.
So to me, this is the number you're looking at.
This is the window.
20 million minimum, 40 million maximum.
Now, this is obviously not going to be an easy enterprise.
You're going to have to get creative and you're going to have to really spend a lot of time figuring out how you're going to do this.
And this is where we run into the issue, Stu.
This administration is not prioritizing deportations, period.
It is not happening.
Instead, they're prioritizing bad foreign policy.
They're prioritizing the donor class interests.
They're prioritizing the special interest.
That's what's getting the priority.
So, you know, we'll go capture Maduro.
We'll get ready.
I'm sure we're going to invade Iran or strike Iran by the end of the month.
Who knows?
Maybe by the end of the week.
So this is where the thrust of priority is from this administration.
It's not on deportations.
So the truth is, if you're actually prioritizing deportations and you're sitting a team down and you're saying, all right, how are we going to actually do this?
How are we going to actually deport 20 million people minimum?
This takes a lot of planning.
This takes a lot of work.
This takes a lot of manpower and it takes a lot of creativity.
But when you're spending that manpower and that creativity on foreign issues and foreign policy and special interests, you're not going to get the job done.
And that's what we're seeing.
So I would say, okay, you know what?
It's going to be hard to drag 20 million people out of their homes, maybe for the reasons that you just mentioned, maybe for other reasons.
So what do you do?
You get creative.
One thing they've done is they've tried to incentivize self-deportation.
They've had relative success with that, but nowhere near what they want.
So I think the obvious thing to do next is to cut all welfare, all of it.
I mean, every single dime of welfare.
How many of these illegal aliens are getting welfare in one way, shape, or form?
I bet you it's a pretty high percentage.
Cut that off.
Here's another thing you can do.
Stop letting money get sent overseas.
Stop letting these people go to Western Union or whatever it is and send money to Mexico or India or anywhere else.
Shut it all down or say, if you're going to send money overseas, if you come here as a non-citizen and you're going to go and you're going to send money overseas, we're going to tax that at 80%.
How about?
We'll be nice.
We go 90%.
We'll do 80%.
Well, guess what?
That's going to incentivize them to stop working here and they're going to go work in their home country where they can keep their money.
So these are the things that they could be doing and working in order to reach a minimum of 20 million deportations, but they don't have the manpower.
They don't have the mind power because everybody's thinking about how we're going to get oil in Venezuela.
Everybody's thinking about how we're going to have regime change in Iran.
Everybody's thinking about how we're going to turn this Ukraine disaster into something positive.
So nobody's actually thinking about how we can get these deportations.
And instead, you're dragging people off the street, putting them in an ICE uniform, putting them in a volatile situation where the liberals are still out in the streets because Bondi isn't doing her job.
And bing, bang, boom, now you've got a woman dead and everybody's sitting here scratching their head saying, what the hell just happened?
Well, you're right about Venezuela and Iran, and it's going to include Cuba and Colombia.
You saw Lindsey Graham on Air Force One with Trump just signaling, yeah, we're going to take Greenland.
We're going to take, I mean, Paul Singer, the guy who later, he rented our military, you know, to make his sit-go purchase go well.
Just like Silverstein purchased the towers before 9-11.
He knew that they were riddled with asbestos.
Well, no problem.
We'll just pull it.
So the military is literally that's being funded by the U.S. taxpayer.
And by the way, American blood being spilled all over the world.
We are going to simultaneously be fighting against all of Israel's enemies and the enemies to the Rothschild-run central bankers, you know, the countries specifically that are not controlled by a Rothschild-run central bank are on this list of targets and they're not going to stop at anything.
So to take your plan a step further, when you say to stop all aid going to these countries, stop protecting their borders, just how about we just get out of them altogether, 100%.
You close down all of these U.S. military installations that are abroad everywhere, just everywhere.
You cut off all foreign aid.
I mean, all of it.
You cut off all military aid, all of it, and you let the chips fall where they may.
And if you bring your American troops home to do what their actual job was, because the core function of any military is to protect your nation against an invasion and to protect its people against the harm that may be brought to them as a result of an invasion, you bring them all home.
A lot of them go home to their families, and then you do a military operation to remove these people.
It was a military operation to insert them.
Use your military to get rid of them.
You would immediately inject trillions of dollars into the U.S. economy by getting rid of all of the aid that's going everywhere else.
You would solidify the border protection security that you need here because they would be militarized.
You'd have all your personnel and all of your assets and equipment, by the way, would be here.
U.S. fighter jets would be patrolling our own airspace rather than, you know, over there somewhere.
And you could get these people out of here and you could do it as a military operation and you would have the personnel, you would have the equipment, you would have the budget because we wouldn't be spending it elsewhere.
That is really the only way to get it done, in my opinion.
It has to be sharp.
It has to be fast.
It has to be decisive and it has to be America first.
And I mean, currently, we just don't live in a country that operates with a political system that's morally upright or America first in the slightest.
And instead, of course, they're just bending over the barrel and serving the interests of their paymasters.
Well, and just we saw it after Maduro was captured.
We see all these people.
Well, first, you had the people sharing fake videos from soccer matches and from Chile and from Florida claiming it was Venezuelans celebrating 18 months ago.
So that was outright propaganda.
That was about as low-level propaganda as you can get.
Nobody's deleted those videos or apologized or corrected their record, but I suppose that's a separate issue.
Here's my takeaway, Stu.
And this is what we just saw from the right.
Oh my gosh, we're celebrating Venezuela's independence.
We've liberated Venezuela.
Well, clearly, you don't understand the complications of the scenario, but okay, whatever.
Fine.
Let's even say that that's true.
Let's say, let's just assume that this is the greatest thing ever for Venezuela.
And congratulations to Venezuela.
We're all celebrating.
We're happy for this Venezuelan people.
And so what do we get?
So we're waving the Venezuelan flag now.
We're celebrating the Venezuelans' people's victory.
And I'm sitting here, I'm like, I'm still an American.
I still live in America.
What is this about?
Now I'm celebrating a Venezuelan victory.
When do the American people get a victory?
When do the American people feel pride and patriotism and a sense of victory that we get to go out on the streets and wave a flag?
When do we get that?
You just named one way.
You bring the troops home, people will be out in the streets celebrating.
You cut off all the foreign aid, people will be out in the streets celebrating.
Okay?
Give Americans a victory.
I don't care about a victory for Venezuela.
I'm sorry.
I don't.
I don't care about a victory for Israel.
I don't want to see Palestinian flags.
I don't want to see Mexican flags.
Give Americans a reason to celebrate.
Give me an American to pick up my flag and go out in the streets and wave it and say, this is a victory for America.
I'm sick of victories for foreign countries.
I'm sick of activism for foreign countries.
Give me an American victory.
Give me a reason to go out in the street and wave my flag.
But of course, most Americans now, after January 6th, are maybe afraid to go out and do street activism like that because we know what happens to us when we do.
If only we had an administration that put the same sense of fear in the left so they wouldn't go out and disrupt ICE agents, then maybe they could do this agenda of deportations without disruptions.
But so far, it's all foreign interests.
It's all special interests.
And now you're just going to have left-wing protests again.
And the right is going to use it for a total power grab and to point the finger at the left again and keep everybody caught up in the fake left-right paradigm as your entire fortune, your wealth, and your future and your country gets stolen from you and hollowed out from within.
On fire always, man.
I can't argue with anything that you just said.
You know, with the exception, I think that the left, they'll always be there.
You know, you're always going to have people, whether they're acting, you know, based on their own sets of ideologies and their own spiritual faith, whether they're acting truly, you know, in a genuine way, or if they're being paid, a lot of them are, or instigated or propagandized into going out and doing this.
I think that you're just always going to have that.
And there's always going to be a clash.
There's always going to be confrontation.
And I don't think that you're ever going to have Americans all collectively celebrating anything because we're never going back to the days of 9-11.
We're never going back to a time where everybody believes, you know, what the TVs tell us, what the government is telling us, and who's responsible for the plight and the suffering of the American people, which is located right in Washington, D.C.
And that's just a matter of fact.
I mean, we have to completely get rid of the system of governance because it's fake.
And to your point about people sharing 18-month-old videos of Venezuelans celebrating, isn't it weird how this is the same crowd that's also trying to convince us that Tyler Robinson achieved a position in broad daylight on a roof 143 yards away from Charlie Kirk with his grandfather's 30 out 6 and shot him in the neck?
It's just there are so many people that are acting in bad faith simply because they are either self-preservationists or because they are being financially or politically motivated to do so.
They're being rewarded in some way, shape, or form.
And it's going to be the discernment of our audiences.
That's what we have to rely on, not just for what information they consume, but what they share and what they're sharing personally with the people that they love.
All right.
No secret that you are on your own and independent now.
Where do you want people to go and find you?
I host the Owen Report Now, Owen Report live 3 to 6 p.m. weekdays.
You can find me on rumble.com/slash Owen.
You can find me on X at Owenschroyer1776 or now on YouTube, Owen Report on YouTube.
The X account is the best way to stay up to date with everything I'm doing.
A lot of content creating happening there.
And then if you want to do an audio only listening to my show, we are on iTunes.
We are on Spotify.
We are on iHeartRadio.
And I'll just say this in closing to the comments you just made, Stu.
I think that all agents have been activated.
I'm going to leave it at that.
I think all agents have been activated right now.
This is obviously a very important time in American history and world history.
People are trying to put us into a permanent situation as we enter the new age of AI, robotics, and automation in a centralized global corporate government.
And I think all agents in the field have now been activated in the move to try to make this happen.
So, as you said, it's up to the audience to have discernment and find out for themselves who's being honest or at least trying to be honest and who is trying to keep you propagandized.
Agreed.
Owen Schroyer, there he is.
Find him on X again.
It is at Owenschroyer1776.
Find him on YouTube.
You can find him on iHeartRadio.
You can find him on Spotify, the Owen Report.
You can find it on Rumble.
Hope to have him back.
We got a lot to talk about.
Of course, we have this whole Paul Singer thing.
We're going to meet the billionaire, the Jewish billionaire Trump mega donor that's set to make a killing from this Venezuela attack.
And that's coming up when we come back.
Thanks to Owen Schroyer for being here.
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Well, you may have seen this.
Millions of people have.
It went viral.
I was up at 2 a.m. tweeting.
I also put this on my Instagram story at Stew Peters Live.
A side-by-side photo of, I guess, what we are to believe is Erica Kirk's children, specifically her son.
And we have one picture from December of 2024, which was a nice family picture.
I cropped the boy out of it, but it included Erica Kirk and Charlie Kirk, and I guess what we are told are their two children, a little boy and a little girl anyway.
And then on the right, a picture from an alibi that Erica Kirk produced for September 9th, 2025, in which the little boy is covered, his face is covered by Erica Kirks, or what we're told is Erica's finger.
And this boy has done a lot of growing.
In a 10-month period of time, this boy has done three years worth of growing, which is just more sus behavior.
It's just bizarre.
This alibi, first of all, was presented by way of Andrew Colvett to a random YouTuber rather than going just directly to Candace Owens, who broke the story with Mitch Snow, who says that he saw Erica Kirk and Cabot Phillips on Fort Wachuca at the Candlewood Inn and Suites in the lobby on the couch, and that she had those eyes and the ponytail and that he had that watch and that sheen.
Great detail.
And so Erica produces this alibi in that strange way that I just depicted.
And this child has done all of this growing.
And why did she do it in that way?
Well, because she cannot produce an alibi for September 8th because she was there.
She was on Fort Wachuca at the Candlewood Inn and Suites in the lobby with Cabot Phillips on September 8th.
And I know that.
But for a lot of people, when it comes to Erica Kirk, for almost everyone out there, people have a lot more questions than they do answers, whether they want to admit it or not.
This is a woman who has burst into the national consciousness in the immediate aftermath of her so-called husband's death after Charlie Kirk was brutally and publicly assassinated in broad daylight at Utah Valley University.
And after that happened, immediately after that happened, Erica Kirk, right alongside of her family at Turning Point USA, her Turning Point family, turned Charlie's death into an opportunity to advance her own interests and their interests and the interests of the people that are surrounding them, who at this point we can plainly see betrayed Charlie Kirk, both before and after his death.
Erica has tried to present this image of being this wholesome trad wife and mom.
Well, we've looked into her.
It doesn't take a whole lot.
And what we have found is that this woman is anything but a wholesome trad wife and mom.
She's going on national television and lying about her dating history and her drinking habits.
She's raising hundreds of millions of dollars off the back of her so-called husband's death, and she's helping to push a patently false story about a guy called Tyler Robinson, who Erica Kirk and the FBI tell us climbed up onto a roof and shot Charlie Kirk with a 30 out 6 that somehow left no exit wound.
Even as Erica freely admits, according to Candace Owens, they had a four and a half hour meeting and inside of that meeting, she said that she has seen absolutely no evidence to suggest that the narrative that she has adopted and is actively pushing is true.
For anyone else, that would sound like a whole lot of troubling information.
Information that might make the normal person want to lay low for a while until the heat dies down, but not for Erica Kirk.
No, for her, it's nothing because she's not normal.
For her, it's just a tiny breadcrumb, a little piece of a much larger story that's so convoluted and constructed and obscured that she doesn't seem worried about the truth ever coming out.
She should be, but it doesn't seem like she is.
And maybe that's because so many people are underestimating who they're actually dealing with here.
Erica Kirk is a woman who, since she was a child, has been tied to orphanages in sex trafficking hotspots like Romania.
and whose own parents have milked the United States government and the Israeli government and the wider military industrial complex for millions upon millions of dollars.
She even boasts genetic ties to foreign nobility.
And even before she met Charlie Kirk, she took on a visible role at Turning Point USA.
It appears that she was making trips to Israel and appearing oftentimes with her mother in the background of photos and videos focused on highly placed politicians like Donald Trump.
So yeah, Erica Kirk is anything but an ordinary everyday wholesome trad wife and mom.
And she needs to be investigated extensively because she is directly at the center of everything involving this assassination.
And we're not the only ones that think this here from this desk on this network or at this show.
In fact, there's this documentary series on YouTube called The Many Lies of Erica Kirk.
Now, this series is being put out by a guy called Coop.
And so far he's released two episodes.
Part one centers around Erica Kirk's family and her extensive ties to child trafficking that also happens to be tied to the United States military and the wider United States government, especially as it relates to Erica's Romanian orphanages.
And we have a clip from The Many Lies of Erica Kirk, and I think that it's a clip that everyone in this audience needs to see.
So let's just check it out.
The orphanage Erica was working with was in a very similar region to where the military base is located.
And in addition to that, more incriminatingly, Erica's nonprofit released a YouTube video, and I'm going to play a segment of it on screen for you guys.
And obviously the audio has been removed for copyright reasons.
And these are my little angels from Antonio Placement Center in Constancia, Romania.
Our goal with the Romanian Angels Project was to show these children the true American heart during the holiday season.
And what better way to do that than having our United States military personally deliver the gifts?
Seems relatively normal, besides the weird voiceover that I hope I was able to show you guys.
But what's undeniable is that to make an event like this possible would require some serious connections.
And so Erica goes on to thank some of the people involved in making this orphanage and American assistance connection work and references one specific man by the name of Colonel Otto Busher, the third to be precise.
Busher is about as rotten as they come.
He was mentioned previously as the one that this translator called out very specifically as being in charge and being the ringleader for this child trafficking and trafficking ring.
This would then mean that Erica's organization was in direct contact with a fellow who is being accused by countless children and Romanians as being involved in these illicit operations involving children.
And make no mistake, we aren't talking about some people who feel this way about the American military.
What we gather is that a ton of the Romanians in this region, in fact, possibly even the majority of Romanians feel this way, that the Americans have an awful presence there, that they do terrible things to the children, that they are a part of these trafficking rings.
What the hell is Erica Kirk doing with these kids?
And what is her buddy, Tyler Boyer, doing with the kids in Ukraine, for that matter?
And look, it's not just Romania.
When Erica Kirk is hanging around the United States government, it's happening stateside as well, especially as it relates to her mother, Laurie Fransvi.
Just this week here on this program, we talked to Mitch Snow, the man who says that he saw Erica Kirk at Fort Huachuca in Arizona on September 8th, just two days before the assassination of her husband, and just one day before this high-level meeting between military officers and turning point USA bigwigs.
And now we know for a fact that this September 8th visit to Fort Huachuka is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Erica's military ties.
And interestingly enough, In the Many Lies of Erica Kirk documentary, there's this video clip of Erica, and she's delving into some of these ties.
And she's there sitting there explaining that she was born in Ohio, but later she moved to Arizona because her mother was working with the feds and needed to be in close proximity to Arizona military bases.
I don't know, maybe Fort Hachuca.
Can I ask a question?
How did your mom choose Phoenix?
So she chose to move to Phoenix from Ohio because there was more of an opportunity for a female business owner out here, especially from the standpoint of she was getting involved with the government, so Homeland Security and Department of Defense.
And so she had other business partners that were out here that were already in that industry, even one that was a mentor of hers.
So it was really convenient to be able to come all together in one place.
Yeah, it's so convenient.
Anyway, both of those clips that I just played and a whole lot more can be seen in part one of the many lies of Erica Kirk on YouTube.
And that's why Coop had mentioned that he had to butcher her voice to get rid of copyrighted music.
And of course, there's some words, I think, in his narration that were edited out in order to, you know, be compliant with YouTube's policies and whatnot.
But there's even more to learn from part two, which documents not just the many lies of Erica Kirk, but the many men of Erica Kirk.
Like JT Massey, who we've mentioned here on this program before.
Remember, Erica Kirk claims that she doesn't drink and that she didn't date anyone for five years leading up to her meeting Charlie Kirk in 2016.
But in reality, not only was Erica on a nationally televised reality show drinking and dating during that timeframe, but in 2015, she was engaged to JT.
Well, a fellow named JT Massey.
Massey was a baseball player playing in the amateurs for many years before getting drafted to the Colorado Rockies.
He seems like a genuine dude.
I'm not going to knock him.
He likely didn't have any idea what he was getting into with Erica.
However, the reason we do know he got into something with Erica is that one, Erica references him in the Arizona Gazette article we mentioned a while back in the previous episode where she discusses her dad's business.
And for context, this article we're about to read a couple snippets from is Erica's description to a reporter about what her typical day looks like.
In fact, the whole thing's aligned.
These events occur on different days, but that's besides the point.
Just another Erica Kirk lie, I suppose.
But she says the following in this article about her other man, JT Massey.
At 5.30 p.m., I have happy hour with my favorite human and best friend, JT Massey.
Also, conveniently enough, my incredible boyfriend.
Talking about everything from his day at the baseball field to the latest with his music group, Saving Southern.
11 p.m., if I can get my brain to turn off, it's bedtime.
JC and I have a nightly prayer tradition where we take turns leading the bedtime prayer.
Tonight's my night.
Once we get off the phone, I set my alarm and get some rest for another unpredictable day tomorrow.
This article, I mentioned it earlier, but I got to reiterate, this is just a bunch of events that have happened in her life that she squished into one day.
I think it's very disingenuous that she presents it as anything less than that.
And it's definitely not her typical day.
And it's just a little annoying.
Digressing though, what we have here is a reference to a man that Erica calls her boyfriend when she supposedly wasn't dating and another reference to Erica drinking, which she claims not to do.
At least I assume she's drinking because that's what happy hour and going to happy hour implies to just about everybody on earth, I think.
Also, my favorite person in the world, she describes this JT as they're praying together and they're best friends, all in her words.
It would appear that these two then, like the kids say, were meant to be endgame material.
But if you're a little bit older, perhaps a boomer, that means that they were likely to get married, that they were on that path.
I think Erica does present it that way, to be fair.
However, as we know, according to all the records we have, she never actually married JT.
But funny enough, on that note, they might have gotten even closer than we suspect because some photos have emerged from a company named Luna Bear Photography.
And these photos are of Erica Kirk and JT Massey, and they were obviously couple shots and not just that, but engagement shots.
Now, Cooper's obviously proven at this point that Erica was not the woman she claimed to be when it comes to dating.
But there's a huge difference in between I didn't date anybody and I did and I didn't date anybody and I was actually engaged prior to the husband who ends up being assassinated.
So I invited Cooper to come on the program via DM on Instagram and he said that he would be honored.
He agreed to come on.
We exchanged phone numbers.
I personally texted with him and up until this morning, he was planning to come on.
He was scheduled.
He was on the schedule.
Well, this morning he backed out.
He said that he needed some more time or more information.
And I'm not trashing him.
He's doing God's work, there's no doubt.
And I could understand why someone would be apprehensive about coming out and saying, hey, I'm the guy that's exposing this woman that's at the center of the most prolific assassination, at least of my lifetime.
These are dangerous people.
And that's just a small sampling of all of the information that you can glean from these documentaries.
You should find them on YouTube.
Part one goes on to talk about the many identities used by Erica's mother, Lori.
She's called herself a doctor.
She's called herself by multiple first names and middle names and last names.
And in the process, she's signed numerous government contracts worth millions and millions of dollars.
Well, in part two, you can learn all about Erica's Jewish banking heiress of a cousin who was also her roommate in New York City and a whole lot more.