Stew Peters Show - UNLOCKED: The Secret Life of Greg Locke—Drugs, Theft, Extortion

Nov. 14, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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UNLOCKED: The Secret Life of Greg Locke—Drugs, Theft, Extortion

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	Over the summer, I sat behind this desk and I made a declaration of war against Christian pastors.
	And as soon as those words left my mouth, as soon as I uttered the phrase, declare war on Christian pastors, I thought to myself, what the hell are you doing?
	What are you saying?
	But it was just so heavy on my heart as if it were a divine mandate.
	That's what you have to do.
	You have to go out and declare war on these Christian pastors.
	And since saying that over the summer, it's becoming more and more evident to the point where it's now become crystal clear exactly what that means.
	And as we've been talking about this ongoing criminal case against a former pastor of mine called Mike Montgomery, who was caught on camera egging my boat after an extended period of stalking and harassment against myself and my entire family, including my children, and is now facing felony criminal charges.
	Now, when we have been discussing this issue with Mike Montgomery, I have repeatedly said that this entire scenario doesn't revolve around me.
	It's not about the boat.
	It's not about the eggs.
	Really, it's not even about Mike Montgomery or Calvary Chapel.
	But the takeaway here is that there is a sickness that's plaguing American Christianity.
	And that sickness is being spread by these Zionist Schofield Bible-thumping fake pastors like Mike Montgomery, who are deliberately leading their flocks away from Jesus Christ and toward the Jew and the modern day nation state of Israel.
	And this is not an isolated issue.
	This doesn't only take place at Calvary Chapel in Red Wing.
	No, no, no, this is widespread.
	This is the real pandemic.
	Just think of all of the fake pastors and devil preachers that you see online or on TV.
	People like John Hagee, the founder of Christians United for Israel, the biggest Zionist lobby group in the United States.
	Hagee quite literally worships Jews.
	Seriously, he says that Jesus Christ is coming back as a Jewish rabbi and that Christians will be judged not on following God's commands or living a biblically sound life, but based on how you treated the Jews.
	And he's not quiet about this.
	He's not shy about this.
	These aren't things that he says in private or in secret.
	He says these things out loud and he means them.
	Look.
	Don't ever forget, Jesus is a Jewish person.
	He's coming back as a Jewish rabbi.
	If there's something in you that does not like Jews, that's an evil spirit.
	You're an anti-Semite and need to get your head straight.
	I mean, this is just absolutely sick.
	But it gets even worse if you can imagine that being possible.
	John Hagee actually says that Jesus Christ never claimed to be the Messiah.
	And that's why the Jews can't be blamed for killing him and for begging for his blood to be on the hands of their children for all of eternity.
	Isn't that convenient?
	Take a look.
	I'm delighted to present my latest book, In Defense of Israel.
	This book will expose the sins of the fathers and the vicious abuse of the Jewish people.
	And Defense of Israel will shape Christian theology.
	Its scripturally proves that the Jewish people as a whole did not reject Jesus as Messiah.
	It will also prove that Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah.
	It will prove that there was a Calvary conspiracy between Rome, the high priest, and Herod to execute Jesus as an insurrectionist too dangerous to live.
	Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered?
	Read it in this shocking expose in Defense of Israel.
	That is a so-called Christian pastor declaring that Jesus Christ never claimed to be the Messiah.
	And people will listen to that and they will go and they will buy that book.
	And they will believe because John Hagee said it, that Jesus Christ never claimed to be the Messiah.
	So who could blame the Jews for killing him?
	He was a liar.
	He never claimed to be the Messiah.
	John Hagee, just like so many of these other fake Christian pastors, is a liar.
	If you're wondering, it's right there in your Bible.
	For instance, in the book of Mark, chapter 14, verses 61 and 62, where Jesus Christ is appearing before the Sanhedrin, where a high priest questioned him on exactly this issue.
	The book of Mark reads, quote, are you the Messiah, the son of the Blessed One?
	Jesus responded, I am.
	End quote.
	It's been written for thousands of years, but John Hagee is a liar.
	He'll lie to you about Jesus Christ.
	He'll lie to you about God.
	He'll lie to you about what the Bible says.
	He'll lie to you about the tenets of Christianity whenever it suits him, whenever it best suits his wallet.
	But you see, there's more to it than just money.
	These people are possessed.
	It's the only way to truly and accurately describe this.
	They're under a demonic occupation through which they will publicly and proudly disavow Jesus Christ, the divinity of Jesus Christ, the entire concept of being a Christian.
	John Hagee says that Jesus Christ wasn't the Messiah.
	And another one of these fake pastors, Greg Laurie from Harvest Christian Fellowship and Harvest Crusade, says that he wishes he were a Jew.
	And if you listen to him talk, it sounds like he's on a Jewish crusade to lead as many Christian souls to the pits of hell as possible.
	After all, he doesn't even want to follow Jesus.
	He tells us that himself.
	Take a look.
	Some would even say that God has broken his covenant with Israel and now it's given over to the church.
	This is called replacement theology.
	I don't believe that God breaks promises that he makes.
	I believe God chose the Jewish people and they are still his chosen people.
	God made a beautiful statement to Abraham.
	He said, I'll bless those that bless you.
	I'll curse those that curse you.
	We have been so blessed by the Jewish people.
	Where did our Bible come from?
	From the Jews.
	Where did our Messiah come from?
	From the Jews.
	Some would say, well, they're colonizers.
	They've taken the land from the people that are indigenous to the region.
	No, they're not colonizers.
	The Jewish people are the people who are indigenous to the land.
	God gave them that land.
	And God says in Romans chapter 11 that he is not cast off his people.
	Fact of the matter is, and I mean the Jews when they see his people.
	I as a Gentile, no, I'm not Jewish, wish I was, but I'm not.
	I as a Gentile have been grafted into the promises of God.
	So I benefit from the promises made by God to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
	He wishes he were a Jew.
	I'm not a Jew, but I wish I were a Jew.
	And you heard him.
	That's far from the only thing that he said.
	These people are infatuated.
	That entire clip was centered around his love and affection for Israel.
	These people aren't just working on behalf of the Jews.
	They're working on behalf of the Jewish criminal nation state of Israel.
	And they use their positions of religious prominence and authority.
	They use their influence over their mind-controlled flocks who have spent their entire lives berated by Schofield Bible thumpers to advance Israeli interests in America.
	And these people will straight up tell their congregations: if you don't stand with Israel, if you don't turn in your money to build the third temple in Israel, well, then you just won't be blessed.
	You'll be cursed.
	You won't get into heaven.
	Eternal damnation.
	That's what's in store for you.
	You'll be judged as an anti-Semite and it'll be over for you.
	And just think about the way that these people use their religious platforms, their religious platforms, to influence American politics.
	They are embedded all over inside of the American political apparatus.
	Just think of all of the creeps, all of the fake Zionist pastors that are hanging out around Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago and at Bedminster and in the Oval Office at the White House on a regular basis.
	Paula White, John Hagee, who you just saw.
	And another one of these people is called Robert Jeffress, among others.
	Now, many of you have probably seen Jeffress on TV.
	He makes plenty of appearances on the Fox News channel where he goes on to berate Christians into voting for Trump in the name of Israel.
	Take a look.
	If you hate Israel, vote Democrat.
	If you love Israel, vote for Donald J. Trump.
	It's that simple.
	Pastor, it is always great to have you with us.
	We thank you so much.
	Wow.
	You know, that clip is just so much deeper than your standard run-of-the-mill everyday political endorsement by a faith leader in America.
	That is a Christian pastor on national television in a Christian country founded by and for Christians, telling Christians that if you want to be blessed, if you want to go to heaven, then you have to vote for Donald Trump because Donald Trump worships and serves Israel.
	And remember, Goy, just like Pastor John Hagee just told us a moment ago, real Christians, they serve the Jew.
	Because you never know what perverted rabbi in a bloodstained mattress-riddled tunnel in New York City or a gay club in Tel Aviv might be the Jewish Messiah.
	That is the Schofield Bible bastardized version of Christianity that's being pounded into the heads of Americans every single day in this country.
	And the people that we've already talked about, they're not the exceptions.
	They are the rule when it comes to this modern-day Schofield American Bible Christianity in this country.
	Jack Hibbs is another one of these people.
	He actually says, just like John Hagee, that it will depend on how you treated the Jew, whether or not you get into heaven.
	Watch.
	It's a beautiful day.
	Got my Bible.
	I'm ready to go.
	How do I handle family members that call themselves Christians but are into anti-Semitic conspiracy theories?
	They don't read their Bibles.
	They can call themselves Christians all day long until they obey Jesus.
	I don't care who reads their Bible.
	God only cares about who obeys the Bible.
	And isn't it interesting?
	In Matthew chapter 25, the criteria that Jesus will use against the world when he comes back to establish his kingdom is: how did you treat the Jews, my brethren?
	Wow.
	Matthew 25, go read it later.
	He's going to judge the world in his second coming based upon how did you treat my brethren?
	And he's referring to the Jews, not the church.
	Watch out for any anti-Semitic sentiment.
	When he says that we'll be judged on how we treat the Jew, he means we'll be judged on how hard we bow down to or how much money we pledge to the secular nation state of Israel or any other tiny hat wearing shylock that happens to cross our path because these are the people who are funding these guys.
	And that's why on any given Sunday, flip on your TV, watch the Crystal Cathedral, walk into some megachurch somewhere or a tent, and you can listen to one of these fake pastors as they get up on stage and clamor for the blood of Palestinian children.
	You can hear them clamor for the Israeli war machine to conquer the entire Middle East, to blow up the Al-Aqsa Mosque and build the third temple in its place.
	Burn up some heifers, play in their ashes, rule over all of humanity.
	That's what Greg Locke wants.
	And Greg Locke, just like all of these other people, is just a shining example of everything that's wrong with America's bastardized Schofield version of Christianity.
	He's a bloodthirsty Zionist who worships Jews.
	He doesn't worship Jesus Christ.
	As a matter of fact, he baptizes members of his congregation, not in the name of Jesus Christ, but in a pig trough beneath the Israeli flag, dawning the star of Rempham.
	Now, we've talked about Greg Locke on the program before.
	What do we know about him?
	We know that Greg Locke is a compulsive liar.
	We know that Greg Locke is an adulterer.
	We've heard that Greg Locke has abused his kids in more ways than one.
	And we even heard that he put his wife in a mental institution so he could divorce her, tell her to kill herself, get away from her, and then run off with her best friend before marrying her best friend.
	Greg Locke, just like so many of these other pastors, is compromised, to say the least.
	Actually, Greg Locke and those directly around him have been accused of a whole litany of behavior that no pastor should ever be accused of and expect to keep his job, to keep his position of authority over parishioners.
	But you see, it's different for these Greg Locke or Mike Montgomery types because at his tent church in Tennessee, they're independent.
	Meaning, he doesn't report back to a larger denomination with a governing body and checkpoints in place to stop people like Greg Locke or at Calvary Chapel, people like Mike Montgomery from steering souls off of a cliff and milking their bank accounts dry in the process.
	No one can hold them accountable because basically Greg Locke is operating a business.
	Greg Locke and Mike Montgomery, they're running sole proprietorships, except it's not really a sole proprietorship because Greg Locke does have a boss.
	It's just that his boss isn't a Christian.
	His boss isn't Jesus Christ.
	His boss is the Jew.
	Or maybe it's Satan himself.
	But either way, he does a whole lot of business with Israel, and that's what this is all about.
	As a matter of fact, he does so much business with Israel that he has a condo in Jerusalem.
	Greg Locke, everyone else that I've mentioned here today, Mike Montgomery, Jack Hibbs, John Hagee, all of these people are symptoms of a disease.
	They're symptoms of a disease that's eating American Christianity alive.
	And that disease is Zionism.
	Zionism is a sickness.
	It's a demonic occupation of the spirit and of the mind.
	Zionism is a demonic ideology.
	And Zionists would have you believe that Jews were chosen by God thousands of years ago to slaughter Palestinian children, to steal the deeds to their homes, to establish the conquest of Greater Israel, and to kill anyone who gets in their way.
	or to enslave or imprison anyone who gets in their way.
	And Christian Zionism is the absolute worst form of this disease.
	And these people would have you believe that Christians, followers of Jesus Christ, were put on this earth not to serve the Lord, but to serve the Jew.
	To serve the people whose entire claim to fame is that they are the descendants of the people who killed Jesus Christ.
	If that's even true.
	What's more likely is that they're the descendants of a bunch of Silk Road Satanists, a bunch of loan sharks from Eastern Europe who hated Christianity and hated the people of Europe so much that they took up the mantle of those who killed Jesus Christ and weaponized it on their own behalf.
	And now that weapon has been deployed all over the country.
	It's been deployed all over the world as an international legion of self-absorbed, money-grubbing, affair-having, child-abusing, fake pastors.
	And these are the people that help them in their quest to stamp out Christianity.
	Because make no mistake, that's what this is all about.
	Using Christians to bring about our own demise and the demise of all of humanity.
	Organized Christianity, modern day organized Christianity in this country has been completely and totally subverted.
	And until we start publicly naming and identifying and declaring war on every single one of these fake pastors and exposing them for who they truly are, so that the world can see that they are nothing more than Christ-killing frauds, they're going to continue to destroy our church.
	And so that's why we are declaring war on these Christian pastors.
	That's why we are exposing them one by one if we have to.
	Now, as I mentioned at the top of the segment, we have already exposed this fake pastor, Michael Montgomery.
	And in a minute, we're going to expose even further, even more so than we already have, fake pastor Greg Locke.
	But when it comes down to it, I've never attended Greg Locke's fake church.
	I've never been to his tent disguised as a fake church.
	And I know that most, if not all of you in the audience, are probably in the same boat.
	We don't personally know Greg Locke.
	We've never smelt the smell or felt the vibes or the demonic oppression inside of that tent.
	But I do have some good news on that front because we recently met someone who does know Greg Locke.
	So much so that not just a part of the ministry, but really, really knows Greg Locke and his entire family.
	She's attended Greg Locke's church.
	She's a former member.
	Her daughter dated Greg Locke's son.
	Her name is Jen Rockwell.
	This week I sat down with her for an extended interview.
	It lasted for a couple of hours.
	Here it is.
	So in 2020, the churches started to shut down, and my family and I were desperately looking for somebody to be bold from the pulpit.
	And my sister drew my attention to Greg Locke.
	I saw a video of him talking, ranting about gender-specific bathrooms and all this kind of stuff.
	And I liked the fact that he didn't shut his church down.
	So we started watching his church online remotely from our home in Arizona.
	At the end of 2020, a friend of mine reached out to me.
	Her name's Amy Kramer.
	She was doing a bus tour that was going from California to DC for January 6th.
	And she reached out to me and she said, hey, I've got your pastor on my bus.
	Why don't you come down?
	We're going to stop at the Capitol in Phoenix.
	Why don't you come down and meet him?
	So that was the first time I had met Greg Locke in person.
	I told him a little bit about my story, what we had gone through with our church and how they shut down and they had required us to wear masks and I wasn't going to participate.
	And he looked at me and he said, you know, they sell houses in Tennessee.
	And I said, yeah, no, we've built our dream house here in Arizona.
	We're not moving.
	The Lord then told me you're moving to Tennessee for other reasons outside of Greg's church.
	So at the end of 22, 2022, my family and I moved to Tennessee.
	We bought a home in Mount Juliet where the church was located and we started attending Greg's church.
	And I'll tell you, the church online is very different than the church in the tent.
	There's just things that you can't feel.
	You can't sense it because you're online.
	And the feeling in the tent was so overwhelmingly oppressive that I told my husband, I don't think I want to go to this church.
	And so we prayed about it.
	And the Lord told us, no, I have you here for a reason.
	You need to, you need to stay.
	You need to stick it out.
	So I had one of his employees come up to me and say, hey, I think you should be on our deliverance ministry.
	Because at the time, he was kind of moving from politics to this deliverance ministry.
	And I said, yeah, no, I don't think I really want to do that.
	And the Lord told me, no, you need to go do that.
	So I started attending a class.
	It was a training that you had to do in order to be on the deliverance ministry, which was essentially praying for people and casting out demons.
	So I went through the class.
	It was four, it was three weeks.
	And then there was a fourth week that was a test.
	And I got through the classes and I said to one of the employees, where are you guys getting this information on how you're casting out demons?
	And they said, well, we're getting it from this book and this book and this person and the demons are telling us.
	And I said, the demons are telling, like, you're talking to demons.
	Why are you talking to demons?
	And she's like, well, you know, they give us good information.
	And I said, the demons lie.
	And she said, no, well, they have to tell the truth in the name of Jesus.
	And I said, okay, if they have to tell the truth in the name of Jesus, they have to go in the name of Jesus.
	So why don't you just tell them to go?
	Like, why are you talking to them?
	And then I was realizing like when they were talking about deliverance ministries and how Greg had said like somebody that they were doing deliverance on told them that there were six witches in their church and they needed to kick out the witches.
	I thought, okay, so are you delivering these people from demons or are you kicking them out of your church?
	So I started asking questions.
	And as soon as you start asking questions, like you get targeted.
	But all these employees were telling me like, Greg really likes you.
	And I said, he doesn't even know me.
	What do you mean he really likes me?
	Well, he's, he talks about you all the time and he's, he's constantly like looking at everything you're posting on Facebook.
	So then about a week later, he sends me a friend request on Facebook.
	And then he's coming up to me during church services and he's like whispering in my ear, like, hey, I really like what you posted on Facebook.
	Then he started to comment on my Facebook pages and people were coming up to me saying, hey, like Greg never does that.
	He never talks on people's Facebook pages like that.
	So you've clearly caught his attention.
	And I thought, okay, great.
	I don't care.
	That started to become a thing where people were watching me.
	And I can't really explain it.
	You're just always being watched.
	There's always somebody watching you.
	So in the beginning of 2023, Greg had an employee that was working for him, a man named Greg Borchers.
	Greg and his wife, Lisa, were employed.
	And something happened where Greg got really upset.
	Greg Locke got really upset with Greg Borchers and asked for his resignation.
	So Greg and Lisa resigned.
	They left the church.
	What capacity, by the way, was Greg working for Greg?
	Greg Borchers would say he was Greg Locke's right-hand man.
	His armor bearer is what he called himself.
	Sure.
	He was kind of in charge of security and kind of in charge of the operations of the church and all of that.
	And Lisa was answering phones, which was amazing because nobody answers the phones at Global Vision.
	People call and it just goes to voicemail and nobody ever gets called back.
	So that was concerning to me.
	Like, why are they?
	The Borchers were the first people that were removed from the church since I'd been there.
	And I'd heard stories about other people that had been kicked out of the church.
	And they were quiet.
	And I just couldn't figure out why everybody was quiet.
	But Greg and Lisa Borchers were our real estate agents when we moved out here.
	So they helped us buy our house.
	So I reached out to them and just said, Hey, I'm praying for you.
	Let me know if you guys need anything.
	And I didn't hear anything from them for a month.
	And then they reached out to me to have conversations.
	So I was maintaining regular communication with Greg and Lisa.
	And at that point, I became public enemy number one.
	Because if somebody leaves the church, you're not allowed to talk to them anymore.
	Don't have communication.
	So that sounds like more of a cult.
	It's a cult.
	It's a cult.
	So Greg in April, Greg Locke is very much a revival nut.
	Like he wants revival because for Greg, it's all about the emotionalism and the hype.
	So in April of 2023, he did a revival.
	We were having a revival night.
	I jokingly call it the planned spontaneous revival because he kept saying it was a spontaneous revival.
	But I was like, no, this is planned.
	It went on for about three weeks.
	And in that period of time, Greg found out that I was still friends with Greg and Lisa.
	We had been seen in public having lunch.
	And so Greg started ranting on a Wednesday night about how he knew that there were people in the church that were still hanging out with Greg and Lisa.
	And he started making up all of these stories about Greg Borchers stealing money from the church and coming out against a sweet old lady that went to their church and just crazy insane stuff.
	And the whole time, Greg's looking at it.
	Was any of it true?
	I mean, could he prove any of that?
	Were they actually suspected of stealing from the church?
	He said he had video of it.
	Nobody's ever seen the video.
	And Greg Borcher's version of that story was that he was told by Greg's secretary at the time to go into the offering collection and get out cash to give to a deputy that was on site.
	They paid this guy $500 a Sunday to come and just park out in front of the tent for, you know, whatever reason, optics.
	And so Greg went in and got the $500 cash to give to the deputy.
	And they supposedly got him on camera getting this cash, but there was a reasonable explanation for it.
	And once we made that public, Greg Locke quit talking about it, quit saying that Greg was stealing money.
	The deputy likely could have confirmed that he was paid in cash.
	Absolutely.
	And has.
	Doesn't Greg have some other kind of private or alternative security measures that he takes there?
	Well, he has a security team, and my husband was actually on the security team.
	There was an instance when we first moved here where it's hard to say what I knew then versus what I know now, but what I know now is that his wife had fabricated this story that there were gang members coming to shoot up their house and they needed security to come and park out in front of the house on eight-hour shifts.
	So there were two security, private security from, and it's just basically church members, right?
	So they had to go park out in front of the house.
	And then one of the security team had to follow Greg everywhere he went.
	So my husband had to go follow Greg all around town wherever he went to make sure he was safe.
	But we later found out it was all a lie.
	It wasn't even true.
	It was optics.
	So there is an actual news story, and I remember this.
	This is why I was looking it up: that there was somebody that actually shot at Greg Locke's Tennessee home.
	And there's plenty of news articles that here's one of them.
	Anybody can Google this and you can see all these different results, but there's a lot of these that are up here.
	Correct.
	Are you saying that that actually, in fact, never happened?
	That information wasn't.
	No, the shooting happened.
	I'm saying the reason why the shooting happened.
	And that was a completely separate story.
	Like that was that shooting happened in what, September, October of 24.
	So in it's hard to, I don't want to confuse people, but in the beginning of 24, around March, we found out that Greg was telling people.
	Well, let me preface and say this.
	When we left Global Vision in July of 23, Greg had us followed and filmed in public, found out that we were meeting at a restaurant in town.
	He had one of his church members film us, and he took that film and what he saw on it that very day to the Mount Juliet Police Department and filed a knowingly false police report accusing us of sex trafficking children and presented this picture that he said we had a six-year-old boy that was duct taped, which was not true.
	So Mount Juliet Police Department called us to be interviewed.
	They talked to my husband first because Greg said it was my husband that had the picture.
	So my husband goes in, tells the story, what happened, what was going on.
	We put that out publicly, the police report, put it out publicly to let everybody know this is what Greg does to people that he's trying to scare into silence when they leave his church.
	So a few months later, maybe six months later, we found out that Greg was telling people that it was one of his teenagers that filed the report.
	And so we filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the Mount Juliet Police Department, and we got audio recording of Greg making the report.
	Which I can say that the Stew Peters Network is in possession of and that Jen has provided me by a text to my cell phone.
	And I have personally listened to it and verified its authenticity.
	So, yes, that is that is fact.
	Correct.
	So this was Palm Sunday of 2024.
	I find out that Greg's saying this, that it was his teenage, a teenager that was doing it that had filed the report.
	And so I send Greg a text message.
	It was Sunday morning.
	He was at church.
	He's on video texting me because they film all their services.
	So he's texting with me.
	I text him and I said, oh, interesting.
	It was your teenager that filed the report.
	Well, just so you know, we have the audio recording.
	Greg had not spoken to me since we left the church.
	It had been about maybe eight months at this point.
	He had not spoken to me at all, even though I had requested several times to have a conversation with him.
	So he texts me back and he says, Okay, let's meet.
	I'm leaving for Israel in the morning.
	When I get back, we'll sit down and have a face-to-face.
	This was the first time I had found out he was going to Israel.
	So that turned into a whole thing.
	Did he have his condo in Jerusalem at this point?
	Not yet.
	Not yet.
	It was still a few months.
	And this, by the way, as far as like chronological timing and all of this, I mean, your story personally, aside from the ministry, leads to your daughter actually dating Greg Locke's son.
	Are we to that point yet?
	Or have we skipped over that?
	I'm past that point.
	I think that we shouldn't gloss over that because you do have personal, you know, family kind of intimate ties in that regard as well.
	So during the planned spontaneous revival in April of 23, I was already irritated.
	I didn't want to be at the church anymore.
	I wanted to leave.
	And so I had a spot that I sat in all the time.
	I never moved, sat in the same spot every time.
	But this particular evening, I was so frustrated that I put myself in the back of the tent.
	I said I was in timeout because I was having a bad attitude.
	And so that night, Evan, Greg's son, came and sat with us, sat with my daughter and I.
	And I, then I, at that point, I kind of realized, like, oh, wait, these two are hanging out.
	Like, they're talking.
	And like, I need to be aware of this because I don't really even know this kid.
	So he's sitting back there.
	And a week later, I said to Evan, I need to have a conversation with you.
	I want to know what your intentions are with my daughter.
	So we have this conversation and I said, okay, you guys can date.
	I didn't know anything about Evan other than I knew that he had kind of been in and out of the house because they had moved him to the children's home, the Good Shepherd Children's Home in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, where Greg was when he was a kid.
	And I thought, why would you guys put Evan in this children's home when Greg talks about how terrible this children's home was and how he had been sexually abused while he was in this children's home?
	And now you're putting your own son in this children's home.
	And so I was asking, why were you there?
	And he said, well, I've kind of been struggling with drugs.
	And I said, oh, like what?
	And he said, well, like, like marijuana.
	And I said, okay, like, I don't care about marijuana.
	That's not that big of a deal.
	When I talked to Greg's wife about it, Ty, who is Evan's stepmother, she said that when she came into the family, married into the family, they had Evan on all kinds of ADHD medications and he was a zombie.
	And she took him off of that medication cold turkey.
	Ty did.
	Ty did.
	And I said to her, Greg, or Ty, you tell everybody that you're, that you were a nurse.
	Like you should have known better that you shouldn't have stopped him cold turkey.
	And she said, I know, and I blame myself for his drug addiction because that's what caused it.
	And I said, okay, so how bad is this drug addiction?
	And she's like, no, he's fine.
	He's totally fine now.
	And it's great because Abby has come in and she's been his saving grace.
	So a month later, Evan's at my house and he had spent the night in the guest room because I guess he got in a fight with his dad.
	And I come into the guest room to check on him, and he's sweating and shaking, and he's completely tactyc.
	He's wearing a white t-shirt, and I can see his heart beating through his chest.
	So I call Ty and I said, This kid is in a real bad way.
	I'm going to need to take him to the hospital.
	And she didn't call me back.
	I left the message, she didn't call me back.
	30 minutes later, she sends me a text message and she says, Ask him what day he's on.
	I said, I don't even know what that means.
	So I went upstairs and I said, Evan, what day are you on?
	And he said, three or four.
	And I later found out that that was how many days he had not taken drugs.
	So he was withdrawing.
	Not from marijuana.
	No, sir.
	No, sir.
	I didn't know this at the time.
	Because I've never done any drug, I've never even smoked marijuana.
	So I don't have, I didn't have any experience with drugs.
	So he says, Day three or four, I send a message to Ty and I said, He says he's on day three or four.
	And she responds back in a text message and said, If he's on day three or four, he's fine.
	And I said, He's not fine.
	So I told Evan, Call your dad and find out what to do.
	So Greg says to Evan, because Evan didn't drive at the time, he says, Tell Abby to drive you home.
	They didn't want him to go to the hospital because then there's record that he's been in the hospital.
	So they take Abby takes him home.
	A big fight ensues.
	There's all this conversation about taking him to rehab versus not taking him to rehab.
	And I said, He's 17.
	He doesn't get a choice.
	Take him to rehab.
	So Ty doesn't want to pay for it.
	So there's an argument about Ty not wanting to pay for it.
	Greg's like, No, we're paying for it.
	But then there was a whole discussion about who was going to fly him because they needed to take him to Texas because there was no, I guess there was no rehab that would take a 17-year-old in Tennessee.
	So they fly him to Texas.
	He's there two weeks and he checks himself out.
	Well, he gets his parents to check him out and they fly him back home.
	And so he flew back home, text messaged my daughter, and said, My parents are okay.
	Let me stop.
	While Evan was in rehab, Ty called me one night.
	It was like 11 o'clock at night.
	She called me and she's having all this conversation about, I don't even know what.
	I don't, I have no idea what she's talking about.
	But she tells me that she's going to Florida.
	Greg had arranged a meeting to have a face-to-face with Benny Hinn.
	And there was going to be this whole apology thing because Greg wrote a book about Benny Hinn being a false prophet.
	So there was going to be a whole apology to her.
	And that ties, I think, back into Israel because that meeting with Benny happened after Greg Locke raised $100,000 of church money to take to Mike Bickel at IHOP so that Mike could give $100,000 to Israel.
	And then two months later, he's sitting down with Benny Hinn.
	So while they were in, I'm having this phone conversation with Ty, and I said, listen, I need to sit down and have a meeting with you and Greg because you guys sent Evan to rehab and you're telling everybody that he's there with family.
	You're not telling anybody why he's there, but you're a deliverance ministry church and your son is struggling with drug addiction, which I later found out was he's addicted to fentanyl.
	He's struggling with drug addiction and you're not telling anybody and you're not asking for prayer and this feels really inauthentic.
	So Ty says, okay, we'll sit down and we'll have a conversation because the plan was that when Evan came back from rehab, he was going to live with me.
	And we were, because I was like, he has to be monitored.
	And I'm a stay-at-home mom.
	I can watch him.
	So at this point, like, are you already suspect about everything that's going on with Greg and with Ty and now the fentanyl addiction and this guy's dating your daughter?
	And I mean, are you pushing back on any of this?
	Yes, but very carefully and trying to be very strategic because honestly, at the time, I didn't really know how involved Greg was because I kind of felt like he was being handled.
	And so, and every twisted.
	What made you feel like that?
	Like handled by who and for what purpose?
	I didn't know.
	I had no idea.
	No clue.
	But Ty, Ty is very, very manipulative.
	And I was starting to see how she was pitting people against each other in the church.
	And it was all just very strange.
	She had she had requested a meeting with me in April of 23.
	She was curious about some stuff that I had concerns about.
	And so she wanted information.
	Personal concerns or concerns with the ministry?
	Both.
	Yeah.
	She didn't like some of the questions that I was asking and she was wondering how I was getting the information that I was getting.
	And who are you asking these questions of?
	Everybody.
	Everybody.
	At this point, I'm asking staff.
	Hey, Jen's asking a lot of questions and that got around and eventually back to Ty.
	Correct.
	So Ty says to me, she starts the meeting, which she was, you know.
	Real quick, I'm sorry, but what kind of questions were you asking?
	I was asking, for example, they did a deliverance ministry.
	They would do their mass deliverance on Sunday night.
	And there was a woman who was doing deliverance and she had a bottle of water.
	And she held the bottle of water up in the air while she was doing deliverance with somebody.
	And she said, she started praying over this bottle of water.
	And then she handed it to the person and she said, there, this is holy water.
	Now drink it.
	And I was like, and then I found out that there was a staff member who had purchased holy water and was using it.
	So I'm asking questions like, are we using holy water for like, what are we doing?
	This is insane.
	I had questions about some of the things that they were doing for deliverance.
	Like they were, they would say things to people like, we're pulling jewels out of your belly and we're cutting tentacles off your head.
	And I, where did Jesus ever do that?
	So I was very concerned just spiritually speaking about all this stuff they were doing.
	None of that is biblical.
	None of it.
	None of it.
	And then Ty from the pulpit was going after principalities.
	And, you know, just without getting in the spiritual weeds, like we don't have authority over principalities.
	Like that's not what we're supposed to be doing.
	And so I thought, you're doing some really, really crazy things and the enemy is real.
	And you are going to start getting into things that you can't get yourself out of, which is exactly what happened.
	So I told a friend of mine this, all this stuff they were doing.
	And she looked at me and she said, Jen, you know, that's witchcraft, right?
	And it kind of hit me like being right in the middle of it.
	I didn't want to think my pastor and his wife were participating in witchcraft.
	But I thought, yeah, that's exactly what this is.
	And she said, why do you want to be a part of witchcraft?
	Why are you sitting under witchcraft?
	I thought, yeah, okay.
	So they were concerned that I was saying stuff like that, accusing them of witchcraft.
	So Ty calls me into this meeting and she says, I just want you to know that I was praying about this meeting this morning and the Lord told me that I could tell you anything.
	And I looked at her and I said, Please don't.
	I don't want to know.
	Like, don't tell me.
	She starts going into all this stuff about how hard it is to be her friend.
	And she only has, you know, a certain number of friends.
	And I looked at her and I said, I don't, I'm not sure why you're telling me this.
	Do you think I want to be your friend?
	Because I don't want to be your friend.
	I got plenty of friends.
	I don't need any more.
	And she kind of jumped back at me a little bit.
	We get to the end of the conversation and I looked at her and I said, at this point, Greg had started insinuating that he was linked up with a man who he wasn't saying his name, but I knew the man's name was Lovie Elias.
	And the guy's a total witch doctor.
	So I said to Ty, Is your husband going to publicly hitch his wagon to Lovie Elias?
	And she said, Yes.
	And that night, Greg did it.
	I told Ty, don't do it.
	It's a mistake.
	Don't do that.
	So he did it that night.
	And that night, Wednesday night at church, he basically said, If we don't support him and we don't support Lovie Elias, then we probably sleep with hoods on our heads because Lovi's a black African.
	So he basically called all of us racists for questioning.
	And he said, if you question my discernment, you can leave.
	There's no seatbelts in this church.
	You can leave.
	I was like, okay, don't tell me twice.
	So when Evan leaves for rehab in July of 24, no, July of 23, I have this conversation with Ty on the phone.
	I tell her I want to meet with you and Greg when you get back from Florida.
	While they were in Florida, Ty sends me an email basically removing me from all ministry positions and accusing me of a bunch of stuff that didn't happen.
	She was getting information second and third hand that was so twisted and not true.
	So I sent an email back and I said, Would you be willing to meet in person?
	And Greg responded to the email and he said, No.
	And I knew that's how you would respond.
	I thought, okay, we're having a conversation.
	Like, of course, that's how I would respond.
	Like, and he essentially told me, like, I'm not kicking you out of the church, but you need to be less than quiet or I won't be.
	And I thought, what are you going to say?
	You got nothing on me.
	And then he said something about if Abby and you know, whatever happens with Abby and Evan, that's between the two of them.
	So at this point, Evan then finds out that this has all spun up and he's freaking out because he thinks it's going to ruin his relationship with Abby.
	So he's begging and pleading with his parents to get him out of this rehab, which he'd only been in for two weeks.
	And he spent the first week in horrible withdrawals, detoxing.
	So they eventually let him come home.
	And the day he gets home, he texts Abby.
	They get into a little bit of a fight.
	And Abby's like, I'm not doing this anymore with you.
	I'm done.
	So we didn't hear from Evan until March of 24.
	This is the same time that Greg is telling everybody that his teenager filed the false police report.
	So he agrees to meet.
	A week later, we get a phone call from Evan saying that he was in a rehab, he's not in it anymore, and he needs a place to stay.
	So we end up going and getting Evan and bringing him to live with us.
	He stayed with us for about two weeks and we were drug testing him and he was passing.
	And we couldn't figure out why he was passing.
	He was popping on marijuana, but everything else was clean.
	Through my research and trying to figure out what was happening, I realized he was using Visine.
	So my husband would watch him go in the cup, but he had a little Visine bottle in his hand and he was squeezing it into the test and that was nullifying the test.
	When we realized that he was doing that, I got all of his Visine bottles that I could find and dumped it out and put water in it.
	So the next time we drug tested him, he wasn't clean.
	And so we took him to rehab at that point.
	And I had been kind of communicating back and forth with Greg a little bit.
	He wanted to meet, like he had gone to Israel.
	He was back.
	And then now we had Evan.
	And all of a sudden, that was a problem.
	And he didn't want to meet anymore because we had Evan and he didn't want anything to do with Evan.
	And the stories that they've done with that kid is insane.
	This is his son.
	This is his own son.
	He wanted nothing to do with it.
	It was terrible.
	And what was he saying as a justification for keeping himself removed from his son's life or his rehab process?
	That he was tired.
	He'd been doing this for too long.
	He didn't want to keep doing it anymore.
	And he didn't like that Evan was at our house, obviously.
	But where is this kid going to go?
	So at this point, I'm in regular communication with his mom, Melissa, and Greg's mom, Judy.
	And I didn't reach out to either one of them.
	They both called me.
	And I'm talking to both of them.
	At one point, I tell Greg's mom, I said, Miss Judy.
	And where was Melissa at this point?
	Where's Evan's mom?
	Evan lives in Murfreesboro.
	And why couldn't he go to her?
	Yeah.
	Melissa is Melissa had a stroke in 21, I think, the end of 21.
	She lives in the children's home that Greg was in, the Good Shepherd Children's Home.
	That was started by a man named Fred and his wife, Martha.
	Martha is still alive, but she's very elderly.
	So Melissa lives up in Martha's base, her attic, lives up in her attic, has like a one-room thing up there.
	And Melissa takes care of Martha.
	And so there's really no room for the kids, but honestly, even if there was, Melissa doesn't want her kids there.
	She just doesn't.
	And we've heard about some of the allegations and we've, you know, obviously been over some of the documentation regarding Melissa and Greg's relationship and the fact that he told her to kill herself.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, that's nothing new.
	And then he develops this relationship with his current wife, who at the time was, I believe, a secretary who was one of the few answering phones at Global Vision.
	From your testimony, people don't answer the phone there.
	Apparently, she was doing some sort of secretarial duties or administrative assistant type role that she was playing.
	And it turns out that there was quite the interesting relationship there between Melissa and Ty and Greg to the extent that they were sharing a bedroom together.
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	Melissa told me at one point, Ty didn't have a place to go.
	So here's the thing with Ty.
	Ty's sister, Maria, worked for Greg.
	And that's how Ty started coming to Global Vision.
	Ty was at the time in a relationship with a man named Chris, who is the father of her youngest son, Caden.
	And Greg kind of counseled them, like, you shouldn't be living together and not be married.
	So Greg married them.
	Greg married Chris and Ty.
	And then that kind of fizzled out.
	Chris figured out that there was something going on.
	And so then Ty at this point is now living with Melissa and Greg with her two kids, Kiara and Caden.
	And they're all living in the same house together.
	And Melissa told me that they were all sleeping in the same bedroom.
	You said that Chris started to figure out that things were going on.
	What type of things did Chris figure out about Ty that were there were assumptions that there was an inappropriate relationship between Greg and Ty.
	And to this day, Greg and Ty both maintain that there was never an affair.
	But I've had so many people reach out to me and tell me they saw him around town.
	Somebody saw him at a base, our basketball game one time.
	They were holding hands and, you know, trying to do it secretly.
	And this person was under the bleachers and saw it.
	So now you've got Ty, who's telling everybody that she was, you know, that Greg saved her and she was drugged out in a ditch and, you know, she lost her nursing license.
	Well, come to find out, Ty was never a nurse.
	She didn't even graduate high school.
	She was never drugged out in a ditch.
	She was working for a doctor's office and stealing scripts.
	And so she was addicted to Xanax.
	But she was never like poor.
	So this woman just completely made up her entire existence before a congregation at a church that she's participating in some sort of a leadership role.
	I would assume you said that she was speaking in the pulpit.
	Yes.
	Which is.
	And now she's in a business.
	Was she just teaching women?
	Was she giving like so?
	She was there standing in the pulpit preaching the word of God to men?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's the antithesis of anything biblical.
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	At some point, you had a Facebook page that you started, and you had a couple of hundred people that were inside of this group.
	Correct.
	And this group was kind of dedicated to exposing the things that you had learned about global vision.
	No, actually, that's the thing.
	The page started, it was a private Facebook group.
	So you had to be, you know, I had to approve people to get into that.
	It wasn't public.
	We joked when we left the church, there was about 60 of us that we've kind of joked like this is going to be a movie someday.
	Like nobody's going to believe this.
	And I said, yeah, we should call the movie Unlocked.
	And so then it became this Facebook page.
	And what it was.
	I like it.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	So what it was was a place for the 60 of us to just be iron sharpening iron, right?
	Share our stories, but really just this was 60 people who left the church.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	That's kind of a mass exodus, isn't it?
	60 people leaving a church.
	Over time, but yeah.
	Yeah.
	It was probably with a four or five year period of just various people that I had made connections with that other people made connections with.
	How many people are in that body, by the way?
	Currently?
	Yeah.
	Maybe 100.
	It's kind of gone up since he started, you know, since the Israel thing has become such a he got people were in the body while you were there.
	About, well, Greg likes to call it a destination church.
	So the in-house people that were there regularly were probably about five, six hundred.
	But on a weekend, we were doing 3,000 people.
	Because people were going to be able to do that.
	Okay, so it went from that, 3,000 on a weekend, 500 regularly to now 100.
	Yeah.
	And it's gone up to 100%.
	Okay, we can get to that.
	Yeah.
	And we'll get into the reasons why that is, which I'm assuming was kind of part of the things that you started discussing in this group, which then amassed over, what, 6,000 people?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So what happened was we started this group in August of 23.
	And it wasn't public.
	Like we weren't even exposing anything.
	We're just trying to get prayer for each other and heal from the experience of having been in that cult.
	In December of 23, Greg decides that he's going to debate someone about round earth versus flat earth.
	And he does.
	Oh, I think I remember that actually.
	Yeah.
	So he does this flat earth debate, and it is an absolute debacle, which I knew it would be because the best thing you can do to expose Greg is just let him talk because he'll always tell on himself.
	So at that point, he had about 200 people that left the church and they had all obviously heard about unlocked.
	So I started having people wanting to join the group.
	And so we got up to about 220 people.
	And again, it wasn't, we weren't there talking crap about Greg.
	We were there really trying to pray for him that he would repent and pray for each other.
	And in February of 24, I am on a cruise.
	It's Sunday.
	I'm out in the middle of the Caribbean and my phone starts blowing up.
	And I'm thinking, what the heck is going on?
	Well, I find out that Sunday morning, February 4th, Greg spent an hour of a Sunday service calling me out by name, saying that I was the biggest witch that ever attended his church.
	I was at Jezebel.
	I was in Ananias and Sapphira because he said that we had promised to give the church a bunch of money and we never gave him one dime, which is not true.
	And so at that point, all the people that hate Greg, which by the way, I don't hate Greg.
	I pray for him.
	I want him to repent.
	I want him to get this right.
	But all these people that hate Greg, he called out the group by name.
	He called it out by name, unlocked.
	So everybody found it and started sending me requests to join.
	And then it turned into an absolute crap fest.
	Like it went from people just trying to heal to all these people in here hating Greg.
	And by April of 24, I was done with it.
	I was like, I can't do this anymore.
	So I shut the page down.
	I had people starting to reach out to me over the summer of 24 and with really just terrible information.
	For example, we had Hurricane Helene that hit, and somebody that has known Greg for years and years and years created this app where people could donate money to give to the victims.
	And he asked, this person asked Greg, would you please promote this app on your Facebook page?
	And Greg said, no, that's not a good idea.
	I'll just collect the money for you.
	And then I'll tell everybody, and then I'll give you the money.
	So Greg collects the money.
	The people that were in taking the donations, they had raised, according to these two pastors on staff, they said that they raised about $250,000.
	Well, Greg wrote his friend a check for $1,200.
	And the guy was like, this is all you got?
	And he's like, yeah, that's all I got.
	Then he found out, no, it was actually $250,000.
	And so Greg wrote him another check for $1,200.
	So this person's reaching out to me, like, hey, can you turn unlocked back on?
	We got to expose this guy.
	And at that point, I used the clip where that Sunday service, Greg looked into the camera and he said, he said, I promise you, I promise you in the name of Almighty God, if that page is not down by the end of the month, may the Holy Spirit strike me dead if I don't see you in court.
	So I used that clip and then started the page back up again and said, unlock 2.0.
	And then I did the M ⁇ M song, Guess Who's Back?
	And so then I started the page again.
	And at that point, the page, I said, listen, I'm not doing ministry on this page.
	This is strictly about exposure.
	I want people to tell their testimony because the word of God says we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony.
	And I started getting flooded, flooded with stories and testimonies, and it was absolutely heartbreaking, heartbreaking.
	What kind of stories were you getting?
	People telling me that they were not only kicked out of the church, but they were being funded.
	Like Greg was giving them money to help them live, and he cut off funding.
	People saying that, like Greg's mom, for example, she left the church because she can't stand tie.
	And Greg started telling everybody that his mom's addicted to heroin, which is not true.
	I've talked to his mom plenty of times.
	I told his mom in April of 24, I said, Does his mom attend the church?
	No, not anymore.
	So, Greg Locke's church.
	Yes, sir.
	Greg Locke's mom does not attend.
	No.
	No.
	The only family that attends are his kids.
	And the only reason they attend is because he gives them money.
	Greg likes to say from the pulpit, I could give any one of my kids a microphone and they would tell you how great I am.
	So I said to Evan one time, I said, Bud, if your dad handed you a microphone and you knew that if you lied, God would strike you dead where you stood, would you say anything?
	And he said, probably not.
	So what kinds of things were you hearing?
	I mean, aside from the allegations of criminal theft, any of this ever come to fruition, by the way, as far as like, was any of it ever backed by evidence?
	It no, because this is the thing.
	Greg always says, if you, if you have any questions about my books, I'll show you my books.
	But he never shows anybody his books.
	So this is all stuff that we get stories.
	For example, when Roe v. Wade was overturned, Greg started the Global Vision Adoption.
	Well, where did the just backing up to the two $1,200 checks that were cut to his friend when he raised a quarter of a million dollars?
	How did people know that that had raised $250,000?
	The two pastors that were taking the phone calls for the donations.
	So two pastors.
	Two pastors.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	We raised $250,000, not $2,400.
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	And one of those pastors has since been.
	Yeah, I would imagine so.
	I mean, you know now that this money was raised by Greg Locke and then misappropriated and it didn't go to where its intended recipient was.
	Right.
	So that makes him a criminal.
	I mean, that makes him an extortionist.
	Right.
	So we started releasing that information, letting people know that that's what had taken place.
	So from the pulpit, Greg says one Sunday, if you think I've absconded with your money, reach out to me and we'll give you all your money back.
	So, okay, bet.
	So I sent him a letter the next day and requested all of my money back.
	And I got a response from his attorney telling me that I was forbidden from messaging Greg anymore and they were going to sue me and all kinds of stuff.
	And I, and I, I said, you guys, he entered into a verbal contract.
	He said it.
	It's on camera.
	So, yeah.
	So then I started having people reach out to me, like, hey, can I get a copy of that letter?
	I want to send Greg the same letter asking for my money back.
	So you were talking about another fundraiser when I asked for clarification on this $250,000.
	Right.
	So, when Roe v. Wade was overturned, he started an adoption foundation.
	He said from the pulpit that he would, with this adoption foundation, he would pay for all of the expenses of an adoption for any family that wanted to adopt.
	No questions asked.
	I mean, other than the fact that they wanted to make sure you were like a Christian family, but you didn't even have to attend the church.
	So, he likes to auctions off his truck and he raises about a million dollars.
	So, one of the people that worked for Global Vision that left was in the office one day, and Ty's daughter comes in.
	Now, Ty's daughter, Kiara, and her husband at the time, Chance, had adopted a baby.
	We're in the process of adopting a baby.
	So, the adoption foundation starts in June of 22, and the baby was born in September.
	So, and they told everybody that this baby was like a third, fourth cousin's baby, and she couldn't take care of it.
	So, Chance and Kiara were going to adopt this baby.
	So, that money for the Adoption Foundation, they were like, okay, well, we can use this for Chance and Kiara.
	So, they bought him a house, they renovated the house, they, and the house was on the church property.
	Come to find out, it wasn't a third cousin's second removes baby's mama's brother, it was Chance's half-brother.
	His mom had gotten pregnant by her pimp, and she was addicted to drugs.
	So, they took this baby, and it was like, Oh, this is a great story about Roe v. Wade being overturned, and now we can start this adoption foundation.
	And they purported from the pulpit that they were helping all of these families.
	And the fact of the matter is, that's not true.
	They were giving money to Kiara, they were giving money to Chance.
	They helped one family in South Carolina, and I have spoken to this family.
	They paid for their first adoption start to finish, and the family said, We want to adopt another baby, and the church said that they would pay for it.
	Well, then they got ghosted.
	So, this family has started the process of adopting.
	They're racking up all these bills on their credit cards, and the church has ghosted them, not helping them do anything.
	So, the lady tells the story.
	Greg's attorney sends her basically a cease and desist and then starts suing her for lying.
	So, now you're suing people for because you said you would do something that you didn't do.
	Then, I talked to another family who there was a family in the church that was raising their two grandkids, and they didn't want to do that anymore.
	So, they found somebody else to adopt these kids.
	And they said, Our church will pay for you to adopt these kids.
	The church only gave this family $5,000.
	And when they called asking for more money, they said, Oh, we're just helping too many families, and we just can't, we can't do any more than $5,000.
	Do you know how much money this adoption foundation raised?
	Over a million.
	Greg says it on that audio recording that I sent you when he's talking to the Mount Juliet Police Department.
	Has Global Vision Church substantiated that they raised over a million dollars and that they only helped two families?
	No, they no, they say they helped hundreds of families.
	And I don't even, yeah, it's it's two or three if you count Kiara and Chance.
	But this one particular day, Kiara comes in with some money to give to her mom.
	And her mom says, Why are you giving me this money?
	And Kiara says, Well, it's for the house.
	And she says, Oh, no, no, no, no, that's what the Adoption Foundation is for.
	So the Adoption Foundation, she says, is for the purpose of raising money to purchase and renovate a home that she's going to live in.
	Correct.
	Do these people attend the church?
	Which people?
	The ones that are telling me this?
	Yeah.
	No, former staff.
	They're not there anymore.
	So who remains at this church?
	And if all that we know about Greg Locke is so obviously discoverable, and I mean, it's backed by evidence.
	You brought the audio recording of him being a proven liar by actually being the one that was responsible for filing the police report, for making things up about you and your family.
	And if there's a group this large, who still goes to this church and for what purpose?
	What are they seeing, Greg Locke, who seems to be just a self-promoting show for Israel at this point?
	Yeah, when did that come to fruition?
	How did he establish a condo in Jerusalem?
	And where does he come up with the financial resources to be able to take last-minute trips to Israel?
	Yeah, I really don't know.
	I really don't know.
	I know, like, he had always said, and that's this is just kind of growing up in these kind of charismatic churches.
	Like, I grew up in it my whole life, Assemblies of God, non-denominational.
	They're always talking about we got to bless Israel.
	We have to stand with Israel.
	And you just believe it until you actually read a Bible.
	It's not what the Bible says.
	But it really started to kick off in June of 23, where Greg starts saying he's going to raise $100,000 for Mike Bickel.
	He's going to take this money to Mike Bickel and Mike's going to give this to Israel.
	And of course, like that had to go hush, hush because Mike Bickel got exposed for all the stuff that he was doing.
	So with this condo in Israel, I knew he was taking trips and he was taking way more than he was publicizing.
	He had been in a period of six months, he had been probably a dozen times.
	And he was telling people like it was four or five trips.
	So he's going a couple times a month at this point.
	Yes.
	And what it was essentially was he said that he was doing tours.
	So he would take you over to Israel and he would do these tours for you.
	Like whatever.
	And I found out from, and I cannot verify this.
	This is what I was told.
	They were told if they wanted to go on this trip with Greg to Israel, they had to take money with them into their suitcase.
	And they couldn't tell anybody that they were traveling together.
	And it had to be just under, you know, that declarable amount of like, what, $10,000.
	So they were taking wads of cash over to Israel.
	Then he starts propping up this rabbi who has these red heifers and he's trying to raise money for these for a cart for these red heifers.
	He wants to raise $83,000.
	I think he said he ended up raising $96,000.
	And then shortly after that, he's got a condo in Israel.
	So hold on a second.
	He's telling the church body that he's raising money to deliver a cart for the red heifers, which are not biblical.
	Right.
	Right.
	Which are the antithesis of anything rooted in the Christian faith.
	Right.
	Or anything that Jesus said or did.
	Yeah.
	But it gets worse than that.
	And people went along with this, though.
	I mean, that's people, people didn't question this.
	didn't push back against this guy.
	No, they were all about it, which they said.
	Is he standing in the pulpit, somehow kind of weaponizing or manipulating scripture to somehow make people feel like it's their obligation spiritually to do these things and participate in this?
	Their honor, right?
	It's their honor to do this.
	But it gets worse than that because he goes on this trip to Israel.
	He comes back and he does this Sunday service where he's talking about like artifacts.
	He's getting all these artifacts and he's going to, he's going to do the Global Vision Biblical Artifacts Museum.
	So he's created this museum and he's like, God told me that I'm supposed to go collect all these artifacts and put them on display to prove that God is real.
	Which to that, I said, are you, you can't be for real right now.
	The Lord says, don't store up for yourselves treasures on earth.
	He doesn't need your help, Greg, proving that he's real.
	So he starts talking about how he went to the Eastern Gate and he's walking past the Eastern Gate, which I guess there's a cemetery in front of this Eastern Gate.
	And he's like stepping over little tiny fences that are around these grave sites.
	And he goes up to the Eastern Gate and he does this whole song and dance.
	He's like looking around and he's like, I went up there and I went and I chiseled a rock off of the Eastern Gate and I put it in my pocket.
	And he's telling everybody that, like, I knew he was lying.
	Everybody's like, if you knew he was lying, why didn't you say?
	And I'm like, I'm not going to interrupt this song and dance.
	This is epic.
	He does this whole thing.
	Then I find out there's a pastor that's connected to Israel and they actually have video footage of what Greg really did.
	He walked up to a grave site and he picked up a rock off the ground.
	But he wanted this Eastern Gate rock so he could put it in his artifacts museum.
	Completely lied about it.
	Yeah, I mean, the guy's a proven liar.
	Yes.
	He lies about his kids.
	He lies about his finances.
	He lies about affairs.
	He lies about his current marriage.
	He lies about the people that go to his church.
	From the pulpit.
	From the pulpit.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	He lies even when the truth would suit him.
	And he's baptizing people in a cattle trough under the star of Remphan in the name of Israel.
	That's what we've seen.
	That's what we've heard.
	That's what we've been reporting on: is that not in the name of Jesus Christ, not in the name of the Christian faith, or in the name of the Holy Bible, or in the name of God, but in the name of the nation of Israel, this fake country that occupies ours.
	That's what he's doing at this tent.
	Well, one of his former pastors was driving with him one night and wanted to figure out like, where's the, what's the end game here, Greg?
	Like, what's the whole point of Israel?
	He said, this is what Greg said, according to this pastor.
	Greg said, I believe that I was put on this earth to build the third temple and usher in the second coming of Christ.
	He says that out loud.
	We've aired footage of him saying that on stage.
	Okay, that's that.
	They need to get a big, huge missile, a big, huge missile and blow that dome of the rock off of the planet and build the third temple and usher in the second coming of Jesus.
	That's what he says.
	Yeah, I haven't heard him say it because I don't listen to him.
	But it so that, so now we know the pastor is telling the truth, right?
	Like, that's insane to me.
	I told his ex-wife that he said.
	I can't imagine being a Christian pastor and saying that out loud and believing that you were saying something that's biblically sound.
	Right.
	Or does he not?
	But beyond that, I said that to his ex-wife and she, in all honesty and sincerity, said to me, Jen, do you think Greg's the Antichrist?
	And I laughed and I said, no, he's too stupid to be the Antichrist, but he is an Antichrist.
	Well, he definitely, it seems, possesses the Antichrist spirit because nobody would stand there with a straight face and yell those things, knowing that you're being taped, that you're on video, and that there are, you know, people in front of you personally, physically, in real time.
	So it's clearly not, you know, altered.
	You meant this.
	You said this.
	You believe that this is biblical prophecy or you know the better, but you are manipulating scripture in such a way to deceive intentionally, willingly, and knowingly the flock of well-intended, pure-hearted Christians who just want a relationship with Jesus Christ and they want to be taught the Bible and you're leading them astray and you're knowingly leading them astray for your own benefit, you know, for your own financial gain,
	for the expulsion of, you know, people that would contradict that message for the furtherance of legitimizing that message so that you can pad your own pockets and have your getaway in your second home in Jerusalem where he probably has dual citizenship, you know, where he can run away to and flee to when it all hits the fan and he has a future that's guaranteed for him.
	Meanwhile, he'll leave behind those Christians that I just mentioned.
	He'll leave behind his wife, the mother of those children for another person.
	He'll leave behind that relationship.
	He'll leave behind his church.
	He'll leave behind his kids to go to Jerusalem to usher in the Antichrist.
	Right.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And he believes that you have to burn these red heifers.
	He believes in this Talmudic, you know, false prophecy.
	Does he actually believe it?
	That's the thing I don't know because everything with Greg is a grift.
	Everything.
	So it's all a shtick.
	And when the shtick stops working, he moves on to the next thing.
	So he's going to be.
	To the next one, like spontaneous planned revivals.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Deliverance ministry.
	So I said to his mom on a phone conversation, I said, Miss Judy, I need you to mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally prepare yourself for the fact that I believe that Ty will try to have your son killed.
	And she said, no, wait, no, you can't.
	And I said, not only do I believe that, I think she's tried before.
	And she said, what do you mean?
	In April of 23, on Greg's birthday, he was riding his bike and he got hit by a car.
	He rides that same route every single time.
	It's 43 miles.
	He rides it all the time.
	And he got hit by a car.
	And then two months later, he got hit by a car again while riding his bike.
	So the morning of the shooting at their house, the night.
	So they got the shooting at like a quarter to 11 at night.
	There's the shooting that takes place.
	I wake up that next morning and my phone has blown up.
	And Judy was one of the people.
	So I called her back and she said, that was it, wasn't it?
	And I said, I'm not sure.
	I need to figure out what the details are, but I can definitely tell you it's not whatever they're going to tell anybody it was.
	And the whole thing was, oh, they're coming after Greg because he stands with Israel.
	They're coming after Greg because he's political.
	They're coming after Greg.
	And I know, none of that is true.
	What I thought was it was either a hit on Greg or something happened because everybody knew that Ty's son was dealing drugs out of the house.
	So I figured maybe something happened with Kate.
	So hold on a second.
	Greg's son is addicted to fentanyl and running around using Visine bottles to hide that while his own father, who's a pastor, who's supposed to be mentoring families in their nuclear relationship prosperity.
	And then Ty's son is living with Ty and Greg and dealing drugs out of their marital home.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	I just wanted to clarify that.
	Right.
	So possibly a drug deal gone bad.
	Correct.
	That's what I kind of figured might be the story.
	I didn't know.
	We were still waiting for information.
	So why do you think that Ty would want to have Greg killed?
	Because she hates him.
	Yeah.
	So all of this is a show.
	Correct.
	My lovely wife, all of this stuff, the dog and pony stuff from the stage, in the pulpit, at the church.
	Yeah.
	All of it's a show.
	How do you know this?
	How do you know that Ty hates Greg?
	Because I've seen them interact with each other.
	Like, I mean, you know, I'm real good at reading people, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
	I mean, she would be in the church and like in a service and say something, he would say something that irritated her.
	And right after the service, she would get up and leave.
	Sometimes she would leave before service was over because she was so irritated.
	A lot of times she was leaving the service too, also, so that she could go smoke weed.
	She had a little vape pen that she would like bend down into her purse and do it, or she would go out in the back of the tent and smoke weed.
	So are there members of the body that understand what Greg is about and know that he's a criminal and a fraud and you know that he's working on behalf of the enemy of Christianity, but they choose to stay there anyways and they're all a part of this?
	Well, I'll tell you, there's a pastor on staff that he and his wife both have told people that they know something's not.
	I mean, I've seen text messages between the two of them and another pastor where they're saying they know this is sideways.
	But the Lord hasn't told us to leave yet.
	I don't get it.
	I don't know why you're still there.
	So didn't Greg just announce, do you guys still have that story?
	Greg, I thought, announced that he was moving the campus of Global Vision and that they were going to be building.
	I think it was just recently, actually, there was that.
	Yeah, that's the article.
	Put that up there.
	And it says that he announced a new campus during his tent service.
	And this was about a year ago, almost to the day.
	Do you know if that happened?
	Did he, in fact, move the church?
	It's no longer in the tent?
	Yeah, let me tell you about the tent situation.
	So the property that they own, there's about 16 acres out there.
	And they've completely like this is the thing about this property.
	The sewage system is bad.
	They can't get it graded properly.
	They've got structures on this or just the tent.
	So the original property was an acre that had a little church on it.
	We call it the little wedding chapel.
	And then behind that, they put two buildings.
	One is the two-story, and the other is called the A-frame.
	The A-frame is Greg's office.
	And then a couple other people have an office in there as well.
	And what's in the two-story?
	In the two-story, it is just one main room on the bottom, and then upstairs are about four or five different offices.
	And so, all of the ladies were in the two-story building, and then head of security and the pastoral care pastor was upstairs in the two-story.
	Were people living on site?
	So, Greg and Ty's house is on that property, and then Kiara and Chance's house is also on the same property.
	Okay, so it's like a compound.
	I'm getting serious David Koresh vibes here, right?
	Right.
	But they, the so on the church, there is there on the church property, there's there were two bathrooms in the little wedding chapel, and then there was a bathroom in Greg's office.
	The bathrooms and the churches were just toilets and sinks.
	Greg's bathroom was a full bathroom.
	Um, the plumbing was backing up, so it was causing all kinds of health issues.
	They eventually tore the little wedding chapel down because it was like rotting.
	And all they had for people that went to the church were these port-a-potties.
	And then at Greg and Ty's house, they had three bathrooms at the house, and really only one of them kind of worked, which was Greg and Ty's bathroom, which was, you know, they had gutted this.
	Greg always likes to say he lives in a double wide, which I guess is technically true, but the inside of it, they've gutted it and remodeled it a couple of times.
	And like Greg and Ty's bathroom has like heated marble floors, and you know, their plumbing works just fine.
	So they were being fined for all of this construction that they were doing without permits on the property.
	The Wilson County was fining them, and the Tennessee State Fire Marshal's office was coming in and had all kinds of concerns about the tent structure.
	So Greg decides at the beginning of 24 that he's going to tear down this tent that they had just put up and he's going to put up a new tent that's going to kind of look like a building, but it's not really going to be a building because they still want to have the tent feel.
	And he puts this tent up and then he builds three walls around it to make it look like it's a building, which I guess is fine, except in the other tent, we could drop the walls down and get some airflow, which you need in the middle of Tennessee summer.
	Well, they put these walls up and he said, oh, we're going to get air conditioning and we're going to do all this stuff.
	And at the end of the day, he spent about $750,000 on this tent structure.
	And then all of a sudden, it becomes too much of a problem because he didn't get any permits to do any of this stuff that he wanted to do.
	He was being fined.
	The neighbors were suing him.
	And it just became more trouble than it was worth.
	So he tore the whole thing down.
	And now they rent some warehouse in Lebanon, Tennessee.
	And that's where they're having church now.
	Correct.
	Does Greg aspire to be around like President Trump or other political figures?
	Greg aspires platform.
	So, whatever he has to do to get platform.
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	And that includes lying, and that includes obviously stealing from the people who believe that they are giving to the furtherance of the church, the growth of the church.
	They want to see the church thrive.
	They want to see maybe getting out from underneath a tent or a warehouse and into, you know, a nicer building.
	But they also, they're Christians who want to further the ministry and spread the gospel and the good news and the light.
	And these people are just deceived at this point that still go there.
	I can't imagine that the body could shrink anymore and the church still continue to remain in existence.
	I mean, you described going from thousands on the weekend to now having a hundred or less.
	Right.
	That's the interesting thing.
	If you get into the business of church and how they structure these churches, right?
	It's real easy for money to start moving through a church when they've got 3,000 people on a weekend and tens of thousands of people watching online.
	And they've got all of these hub churches all over the United States.
	Like you can move money through there and it doesn't draw any red flags.
	Now, all of a sudden, the numbers don't justify the amount of money.
	So it's, I never, you never know the 100% of the truth with Greg.
	And he refuses to show any of his books.
	Well, it looks like, or you have actually said that, go ahead, finish that thought.
	Well, anything he says from the pulpit is not true.
	So he said at one point that because of his political stance, the bank that he does all of his banking with was closing all of his accounts.
	Like anybody with common sense knows that that's not real.
	But then also, what accounts is he talking about?
	Because everything funnels through one account.
	And it's the church's account.
	And all the employees would joke around about having to ask, where is the bank card?
	Like, I need the bank card because they only had one bank card.
	And so if people needed to buy something for the church, they had to figure out.
	But then it was the same card that they were using to pay for everything.
	So his kids, you know, Greg and Ty are never around.
	The kids are home by themselves.
	They need food.
	They door dashed everything.
	Anytime they're using the bank card, which is coming from the people who are tithing and it's all commingled.
	So as I started to draw attention to the financial side of this, all of a sudden I get contacted by the Treasury Department and they want to come and interview me and find out what do I know.
	So I get two agents from the Treasury Department with guns and badges in my house asking me all you're doing.
	About Greg Locke?
	About Greg Locke specifically.
	Yeah.
	And they said, like, you know, obviously don't tell anybody because we don't want it to get back to Greg.
	But they asked me for other names of people that they could interview.
	And so I gave them a couple of different names and I said, can I give these people a heads up that you're going to reach out?
	And they said yes.
	And one of the people that I gave a heads up about who should despise Greg called Greg, trying to get back in his good graces, I guess, and let Greg know that the Treasury Department was investigating him.
	But he's been investigated by the FBI.
	We've had the FBI following us.
	Greg Borchers was served a subpoena to testify before a grand jury about the stuff that happened on January 6th.
	So, you know, he's on people's radar, but he's like a cockroach.
	Can't kill him.
	So, I mean, this obviously is not a, I mean, personally, you have a disdain or a dislike for Greg Locke.
	And because you know that he's a dishonest person who's falsely representing himself as a man of God and he weaponizes scripture, which is just enough for me.
	Right.
	I don't like that guy.
	You know, I don't want to go to a church like that.
	If I have information like that, I wouldn't go to a church like that.
	And when we talk about the broader kind of focus of this show recently, and I don't know how much you've been following my story regarding a crazed pastor in Red Wing, Minnesota called Michael Montgomery, who's now actually facing felony criminal charges after damaging my property.
	Wow.
	And after a years-long harassment and stalking campaign that affected not just me, which I don't really care about that, but my kids and their mom.
	My kids really, that pisses me off.
	And he's willing to shout me down and swear at me and accost me in public in front of my children and berate me and call me names and stand in the pulpit in front of the congregation that I left and say horrifically untruth bad things about me for years on end to kind of brainwash all of the people there that are wondering why doesn't Stu come to the church anymore.
	Stu was like an avid supporter of the church.
	Stu was very outspoken about his donations to the church.
	And it wasn't from a bragging standpoint, but it was just like when the church was in need, I was there financially.
	And I left because I was uncomfortable.
	The same reasons why you left your church, you were uncomfortable.
	And this was after having left another one of these churches, a great salesman for Jesus called Kevin Delp, who stood in the pulpit and just really kind of brought to life the feeling of Jesus, you know, like the Holy Spirit.
	Like, I just, I felt it and it was on fire inside of me.
	It doesn't have anything to do with this guy.
	God will use even terrible people in these instances, as we all know.
	And then, you know, one day he's on, he's, he's, he's in the pulpit and he's on stage.
	And he comes up and I don't remember exactly if it was him first or somebody else, but it just comes out right there on stage in front of everybody that he's been having an affair with the praise and worship leader's wife.
	And so now he's selling cars in Texas, which is where he should be.
	He should be nowhere around a pulpit.
	He should be nowhere around a lectern or a podium, nowhere around an authority position to teach the gospel or to be a conduit in someone's relationship with Jesus Christ and should in no way represent the teachings of Jesus Christ.
	And that's why we've waged war on these Christian pastors, because you have the very obvious John Hagies.
	And, you know, Mike Montgomery is only famous because I made him famous because I have this platform.
	And without me having this platform, Michael Montgomery would have been able to do this and terrorize a limitless amount of families, which he's already done because after me being public about this, in my DMs, I have dozens of stories from people who have actually moved away from their town because of the discomfort created by this Pastor Montgomery and his wife, Kristen, who when he announced his resignation just this last Sunday, his wife came alongside of him and was like giggling and laughing.
	All of this started with eggs.
	Hee, hee hee.
	Something as little as eggs.
	No, it's not about that.
	It's not about the eggs.
	It's not about the 32,000 damage that you caused me.
	It's not about even really necessarily my kids, which really pissed me personally off.
	But it's about the fact that you are intentionally misleading an entire flock of very innocent victims in the opposite direction of Jesus Christ and toward this religious sacrament that has been bowing to this nation state of Israel because that's where the money is.
	That's where the platform is.
	That's where the media hits come in.
	That's how you elevate this to a John Hagee type platform where you're able to then deceive millions online and they will just unwittingly, unknowingly, just send you all of the financial resources that you need to live out a lavish lifestyle where you're building compounds and going to Jerusalem every other week.
	And so he doesn't care about his church, much like, you know, these politicians or elected representatives or even the president don't actually care about the country or its people.
	They care about serving themselves, living out their own fantasies financially, sexually, and compromising people spiritually while they do it.
	And in many cases, even physically, leading to death, leading to, you know, my kids are afraid to even be associated with somebody that calls themselves a pastor.
	They're very hesitant and skeptical, rightfully so, because this guy sat outside of my house for 45 minutes like a complete psychopath and then shouted me down in front of a very young group of children who were then crying and wondering, why would a pastor do that?
	Well, a pastor wouldn't do that.
	A false teacher would do that.
	Correct.
	And these people have no business being around a pulpit.
	They have no business being associated with Jesus Christ or the good news or the gospel in any way, shape, or form because they are criminals and they are frauds.
	Right.
	And the common denominator is that they're all doing it by invoking Israel.
	And, you know, that gives them the carte blanche to do whatever they want to do and say whatever they want to say and be protected, not only protected, but rewarded financially and with their relevance and with their platform and with their lifestyle while they lead people.
	And I don't say this to be hyperbolic, to their eternal damnation.
	Right.
	And I can't speak for other ministries, but for Greg, it's smoke in mirrors.
	Right?
	Like everybody says, oh, he's got this brand new $1.6 million house and he's got, oh, brand new cars and all this kind of.
	Yeah, great.
	You've got brand new cars, but your credit score is a 407.
	Like you don't, you can't rub two nickels together unless somebody gives it to you.
	Unless you steal it from someone.
	And that's what that is.
	You're leading people to believe that they are giving for a noble, morally upright cause.
	Right.
	And then you're just stealing from that fund.
	You're stealing from that.
	No oversight.
	No accountability.
	Like, this is the thing.
	Greg can say, like, oh, yeah, I only raised $2,400 when actually he raised $250,000.
	And there's no oversight.
	There's no accountability.
	There's nobody that's willing to hold his feet.
	That's according, by the way, not made up.
	That's according to two other pastors who helped to raise that money, who were an active part of that, who had inside knowledge, who knew how much money was being donated.
	So a quarter of a million dollars is not just some number that's pulled out of whole cloth thin air.
	No.
	That's the number.
	The guy raised a quarter of a million dollars and gave $2,400 to the person whose name he was using to raise the money and whose cause he was using to raise that money.
	So there are a quarter of a million dollars worth of victims out there who have been lied to as Greg Locke participates in an extortion, you know, racketeering scheme, which is what has federal investigators with guns and badges at your door.
	Correct.
	Where do you see all of this going?
	I mean, how long have you been at this exposing Greg Locke?
	For about two years.
	Is it frustrating for you that it's taking so long and that every week, week after week, you know that more money is just flooding in from victims all over the country or perhaps all over the world that are viewing Greg Locke's blasphemous preachings from this tent or warehouse in Tennessee?
	Truly, at this point, I don't even give Greg Locke a second thought unless, you know, somebody brings it to my attention or wants to talk about it.
	He's so irrelevant and he's desperately trying to get relevance.
	Like somebody sent me a clip yesterday.
	Interestingly enough, he started a new show.
	And the funny thing was, is it pretty much matches the intro to your show, which I thought was, I thought that was hilarious.
	He's trying to learn from the best.
	Right, exactly.
	Exactly.
	You know, I can't hate on that.
	Yeah.
	So with some people just got it.
	Some people got to steal it.
	Greg Locke does not have aura, though.
	That guy is.
	And he won't have a conversation with me.
	No.
	You know, he vehemently, diametrically opposed everything that I was doing with my film, Occupied.
	He said that it was untrue.
	He said that it was anti-Semitic.
	He said that I was a hateful person who just hated the Jewish people.
	And he dismissed it.
	So I invited him to be in the film.
	I said, well, why don't you come to the studio and sit down and give your take?
	I would love to have your take.
	You're a pastor.
	You're a faith leader.
	From a biblical perspective, I would like you to come and disprove anything that is in this film.
	I would love the opportunity to have this open discourse.
	You're a national figure.
	You put yourself on a stage and you call yourself a Christian pastor.
	He said that the only way that he would talk to me is if I came to him in Israel, which is essentially basically his base of operations that's become his home nation.
	You come to me in my country.
	You come to me in my fake country of Israel that was established in 1948.
	You come here and everybody knows, including Pastor Greg Locke, that Stew Peters is not stepping foot on Israeli soil.
	And that I'm never going to put on the ridiculously embarrassing tiny hat or hump the wall or kiss the wall or lick the wall or cry at the wall.
	I'm never doing that.
	And so he knows that I'm not going.
	Well, just recently we did, you know, kind of a segment on exposing what somebody else had reported that I don't think was getting enough attention regarding Greg Locke's, you know, failed marriage and his new relationship and some of the abuse that he put allegedly Melissa through, which included him telling her to kill herself, hitting her, becoming physical with her, beating his kids.
	These were the allegations that were made.
	And we think that that's really serious and deserves the attention of the masses when there's a nationally known figure of faith that's being charged with all of these things and very well documented.
	And then he, of course, was in my DMs on X saying, you know, this is patently false information.
	And I said, well, why don't you come and talk about it?
	And again, the invitation was made to go to Jerusalem or something like that, I believe.
	I don't know.
	He didn't respond to the idea of coming to sit down personally.
	So I would love for him to be in the studio.
	Actually, I think we're going to be sitting down with this guy, Adam King.
	And Adam King is this Jew who was on Timcast in this now infamous appearance where he was holding a dime bag, is what he referred to them, a dime bag of heifer ashes.
	And these people apparently have already burned these heifers, which is a big deal.
	People should know that.
	And that they were doing it in secret because of the attention that this network was giving to the idea that Christian pastors were going to go burn animals alive, play in their ashes, and help to usher in the Antichrist.
	And we think that's kind of a big deal that, you know, Christians should know about.
	So anyway, we were going to sit down with this Adam King.
	And I thought to myself, well, this would be a great opportunity for Greg Locke to come into the studio along with Adam King and be in the presence of these heifer ashes, which, you know, Adam King is representing to the world is, you know, it's making miracles.
	They're sprinkling these ashes on people and they're healing the blind.
	Where else have we heard that story, by the way?
	They're healing the blind.
	They are curing Alzheimer's by sprinkling these heifer ashes on people that are performing miracles, which is, it is, I mean, blasphemous would be an understatement.
	It is, it is just so, I don't even have a word.
	Blasphemous is an understatement, but it is all of that.
	And so I thought it would be a great opportunity for Greg Locke to be there in the presence of the heifer ashes and see if the religious sacrament will be performed.
	Well, let's see if Adam King can sprinkle these ashes on you, Greg, you know, and heal you.
	Maybe you could be healed by the heifer ashes.
	Would he do it?
	Would a Christian pastor actually do that?
	Would a Christian pastor deny Jesus Christ and the new covenant by sitting there on video and being sprinkled with ashes, blaspheming the Lord, and claim that they are somehow divine ashes when they come from a group of people who says that my Lord and Savior is currently in hell burning in semen and excrement?
	Yeah, would he do that, or would he then do an about face and say, no, that's that's demonic because that's what it is.
	It's demonic and it's false and it's a lie.
	And it's the whole thing is built on lies and it's delivered by the empire of lies.
	Would he do it or wouldn't he?
	It would be interesting, wouldn't it?
	Yeah.
	But he won't come here.
	He wouldn't come, but he would do.
	That's the whole thing.
	His whole deliverance ministry was built on that.
	He wants to suggest that people came in there and they got healed.
	Some people did get healed.
	But here's the thing: the enemy is the author of deception.
	And while the enemy can't create, he can duplicate and replicate.
	And it's false.
	It's just false.
	These people are being healed, but are they?
	They're not.
	If they are, they're being healed by God.
	They're not being healed by John Hagee.
	They're not being healed by Michael Montgomery.
	They're not being healed by Greg Locke.
	No.
	They're being healed by the Lord.
	They're being healed by the King of Kings.
	They're being healed by the favor of Jesus Christ.
	Right.
	And nothing else.
	And so it's reminiscent of Satan himself, who believed that he was the source of the light and the music and failed to look behind him and honor God and point out to where it's actually coming from, putting the cross at the center of everything and pointing to the cross all the time.
	And that's what Greg Locke doesn't do because I believe that Greg Locke doesn't actually believe in the miracle of Jesus Christ.
	And if he read his Bible and if he believed in the word of God and if he actually read and digested the words of Jesus Christ, he wouldn't have such this relationship with Israel, but would instead be saying the things that I'm saying here about the dangerous precedent that's being set here as billions of Christians are led down the wrong road to believe that these are God's chosen people and that this is the Israel of the Bible and that all of this is biblical prophecy when in fact it's actually not.
	It's not.
	Yeah.
	It's 100% contradictory.
	Right.
	And Greg will tell you, I read my Bible cover to cover every month.
	Like, great.
	And I think at one point he was solid.
	Like the man could preach, but he's given himself over to a reprobate mind because of his lack of repentance.
	And his conscience has been seared.
	And as much as I hope that a miracle can happen and he'll get this right, I don't think it's going to happen.
	I think one of the miracles that I would like to see happen and something that I'm going to pray for is that America is awakened to who Greg Locke really is and that the funding funnel gets completely choked off and that Pastor Greg Locke is financially, spiritually, and physically forced from any pulpit of authority in the name of Jesus Christ.
	Amen.
	Yep.
	And you're doing your part to make that happen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And to you, you know, you said, to me, Greg Locke is irrelevant.
	You know, I understand what you're saying.
	Right.
	But I believe that this is, yes, but of the utmost importance to our country and to Christianity and to the church.
	Not the church, the brick and mortar church, not even the church, the tent church, but the body of Christ.
	Right.
	The real church, God's church, needs to be able to see these people for who they are as his light has shined on them and they are exposed as the cockroaches that they are.
	Yeah.
	And then naturally, people will be able to make their own decisions.
	Yes, he is.
	He's a microcosm of the greater attack on Christendom and on the faith in our country and the church that has been occupied by these Schofield reference Bible pounding false teachers that present themselves as faith leaders and pastors.
	That's right.
	And the accountability that Greg faces is something that I wouldn't wish on anybody because God tells us about people who position themselves in the manner that Greg Locke has as being an authority figure in the name of Jesus Christ and acting as a conduit in that relationship and perverting it in any way.
	I mean, the Bible is very clear about not causing one of the little ones to stumble and what happens if you do.
	And about being a person who presents himself as a figure of faith.
	You know, I mean, that these pastors, that these faith leaders are held to an even higher standard of accountability if they should knowingly mislead their flock.
	And he is.
	You know, I don't have the hardcore, irrefutable, on-tape, video screenshotted evidence that Greg Locke knows what he's doing, but I know.
	I know that Greg Locke knows what he's doing.
	And you can just call that, well, Stu's a whack job.
	No, no, no.
	I know that Greg, he knows what he's doing.
	And so his soul is one that we all need to be praying for.
	That's for sure.
	I really want to tell you how much I appreciate you, you know, taking the time to do this.
	And I know that it doesn't bring any great things to your front door when you do things like this.
	So you're probably setting yourself up knowingly for some future discomfort.
	And I think that that sacrifice should be honored.
	So I just want you to know that we think that that's the upright thing to do.
	I hope that this causes other people to have the courage to speak out.
	Because somebody said to me once, Jen, the reason why you're so effective at speaking out is because Greg doesn't have anything on you.
	Well, even if Greg has something on you, greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.
	And you overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of your testimony.
	So I hope more people will have the courage to speak out.
	Amen.
	Me too.
	Jen, thank you very much.
	God bless you.
	Thank you, Sue.
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