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Breathing Death: How America continues to fail it’s veterans

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	Well, the drama continues, folks.
	The drama continues for veterans who have been exposed or lived near burn pits while deployed to a forward area through the whole war, our country's longest war in our history.
	New articles out, new studies being done about how this is affecting the soldiers that lived around these burn pits in the vicinity of.
	So today we're going to have a discussion about that.
	It kind of hits pretty close to home.
	As I was reading through this article that was put out last Monday, it really got me thinking about some things I got going on, where I lived, people I know, what they may have going on.
	And it's kind of a real interesting take on things.
	So we're going to go through this today.
	I have my own thoughts and perspectives, of course.
	So I hope that we can get through all of it without running down too many goat trails.
	But as usual, we'll do the best that we can.
	So stick with us.
	Don't go away.
	We start now.
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	So let's dig into this here.
	Burn pits have been a topic of discussion for quite a while, and maybe rightfully so.
	I've often said that the burn pits where we lived while deployed to Iraq and Kuwait in my experience is going to be our generation, our wars, Agent Orange.
	Our generation of veterans are going to die off.
	We've already seen a lot of illness and sickness and disease and death.
	And a lot of it, a lot of it contributed to issues surrounding these burn pits.
	So let's go through this article.
	And of course, we'll stop and have discussion.
	But I found it really interesting because to be quite honest, I thought that this whole burn pit conversation, as we know, the PACT Act came out a couple years back.
	And to be honest, I thought that this would probably be just about the end of it, right?
	That the government, they admitted to burn pits and that they weren't good for us.
	And maybe they were backed into a corner when they decided to admit that because people are a lot smarter now than they were about these types of things back in Vietnam, for example.
	And we know a lot more about how things in our environment affect us.
	And so I think that possibly it was an issue where the government couldn't say, yeah, no, I don't think that that's a good reason for us to do anything further for veterans.
	They just, they couldn't have that conversation.
	And so the PACT Act got done.
	And a lot of people have applied.
	A lot of people have been accepted.
	There's still a lot of folks that are waiting for their cases or their claims to be adjudicated and to get a decision made about their care, disability benefits, pay, all those things.
	And so as these conversations continue and we get more information about what might be happening to us as a community of people, as veterans that are all associated with this warrior culture that we talk about.
	I'm happy to see it, that they're continuing the conversation.
	They're continuing the research because maybe we'll figure something out or they'll figure something out where not all these veterans have to die just because they lived in a specific location next to all this carnage and all this bullshit that they were burning and just letting us live in it.
	So let's get down the road here and see what they got to say.
	So this article was posted in the Military Times and it was put out on Monday, July 21st.
	And it's titled Research Offers Link Between Burn Pit Smoke and Serious Brain Injuries.
	And so this hits home for me because I lived very close to a burn pit while deployed to Iraq.
	And when I was wounded in February of 2006, I'm sorry, it's February of 2007, the night I got my Purple Heart, February 16th, 2007.
	I had to work at the burn pit for a small amount of time, a couple weeks.
	But every day for a couple weeks, I went and sat there and watched the local nationals who came on base to work.
	They worked at the burn pit.
	So these guys and kids, I mean, they brought, not kids, but teenagers.
	They brought the young men also so they could work and make money and help provide for the family.
	But these guys were crawling in and out of these burn pits.
	And the burn pit down at Toledo, where we lived, was quite big.
	It was pretty massive.
	And so these guys were going in and out of that thing all day, every day.
	And so there's no doubt about it that the local nationals that worked in and around these burn pits at all of our bases are certainly having health issues if veterans are having health issues after living there.
	These guys were wallowing in it for Pete's sake.
	And so, and that's never a discussion that I've ever heard had.
	Maybe it has been.
	Maybe it hasn't.
	Maybe we're not concerned about it.
	Who knows?
	But let's start this here.
	I could probably talk about it off the cuff for the whole show, but I want to avoid that because I want to give you guys some facts.
	So it says here, a new medical study of military toxic exposure symptoms set to be published this month indicates that individuals who served around dangerous burn pit smoke may face a greater risk of mental health and brain trauma issues.
	The research conducted by the National Institutes of Health in conjunction with the Defense Department and Department of Veterans Affairs analyzed the health records of nearly 440,000 troops who deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan between the years 2001 and 2011.
	Now here we go.
	The findings show higher rates of depression, mood disorders, intracranial injuries, and traumatic brain damage among troops stationed near toxic burn pits.
	These were giant waste fires used to dispose of a host of office and war zone supplies.
	Researchers said the likelihood of injury increased as service members spent more time around the chemical-laden smoke.
	Well, this is the first red flag, like the first line of bullshit.
	Because what they say here is that these toxic burn pits were giant waste fires used to dispose of a host of office and war zone surplus.
	Okay, and so that's true.
	That's true that we did dispose of office supplies and war zone surplus.
	What is that?
	That would lead me to believe war zone surplus would be, you know, tires and vehicles and metal and maybe oil and things from vehicles, other chemicals used, all that kind of thing.
	So all of that is true.
	What they also left out of here is medical waste.
	They would throw large, massive bags of medical waste, so rags and bandages, body parts, bags of goop that were soldiers that were scooped out of a truck.
	So on our base, for example, a good friend of mine, Dan, one of his jobs while we were deployed was to go through vehicles that came back on base that had been hit by IEDs, by roadside bombs and things of that nature.
	Their job, and he, by trade in the military, was a turret mechanic and also worked on our vehicles.
	But his job there at this particular place on base when he was doing this function of going through destroyed vehicles that were destroyed in combat outside the wire to find where the armor might have failed, where penetration points were.
	Because as we were there, there was usually some kind of armor upgrade every so often.
	And there'd be new armor kits to be put on our vehicles.
	And so they just got more coverage as time went by.
	They got bulkier.
	And so obviously that means they got a whole lot heavier.
	But they did come out with armor kits for us to upgrade the armor on our vehicles to try to defeat these roadside bombs.
	But what they couldn't figure out was how to defeat what was called EFPs.
	And the EFPs were pieces of copper that they would put into these IEDs, these roadside bombs, because the molten hot copper, once it explodes, or once the explosive goes off, it shot this copper at the vehicles.
	And liquid copper cut right through the armor.
	And so EFPs at that time, 05 to 07 is when we were there, was just destroying vehicles and killing soldiers and dismembering soldiers and causing pretty catastrophic injuries to the men and women who were getting hit by these roadside bombs.
	And so in an effort to defeat that, they tried to keep coming up with these armor kits.
	So anyway, Dan's job was to check out these vehicles, see where the armor failed, where the penetration points were, what might have happened.
	But what nobody told him when he went down there is that these vehicles are coming in right off the road.
	So oftentimes there is tons of spent ammunition from the gunner shooting his cruiser weapon from the roof of the vehicle.
	The other occupants may have been shooting out of a window if need be.
	But there was also a lot of blood, pools of blood.
	There was bone matter, bone fragments, and tissue, hair, skin, fat, just gunk from people who had been hit by these roadside bombs.
	And all these things just get left in the truck and it gets towed on base.
	Nobody told him about that.
	And so what do you do?
	You have to complete the mission.
	You got to meet the commander's intent.
	You got to do all of these things.
	So that was his job.
	It was a pretty shitty job to have to do.
	And so anyway, all of these things would get collected once these vehicles came in.
	They put them in bags.
	And well, those go on the truck to go to the burn pit.
	And so like in this article where they start talking about these giant waste fires, if anybody thinks that it was just office supplies and war zone surplus, whatever you believe that that is, it was a lot more than that.
	Unless you can define everything under the sun other than office supplies, war zone surplus.
	So just think about that.
	All of our garbage, all of our food waste, all of our medical waste, all of our maintenance waste.
	So all the stuff, all the garbage and chemicals and oil and fuel and all of that stuff, transmission fluid, grease, just whatever.
	All that stuff goes into one place, into the burn pit.
	And this burn pit just smolders 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
	It's letting off smoke and fumes and all that stuff.
	And you could tell every single time that the burn pit had got a new load of trash put in it.
	Because this almost, what's a good word?
	This haze, this almost like paranormal haze, right?
	Like when you're going through Halloween, for example, in some super creepy haunted house, or you walk up to this house that's really well done, and there's just like this haze that settled over it.
	It was almost like that, but it stunk to high heaven.
	And so that stuff would just kind of drift over the base.
	And at times, if it wasn't windy out, it would just kind of hover and stay there like it was super heavy smoke and smog or whatever you want to call it.
	And so when we were, for example, we get home from a mission or we get back to the base from a mission and wherever we were at the day before, maybe we were lucky enough to go into their PX or whatever base we were at the day before and they may have had some flash frozen steaks.
	You know, we pick up some steaks, throw them in the cooler.
	Not only do they keep our drinks cold for a day while they're in there thawing on ice, but then they're thawed and ready to go when we get back.
	So usually we would have a little cookout.
	We all had our own little grills and things like that.
	But oftentimes we were sitting outside of our living area, cooking our steaks, smoking cigarettes, drinking non-alcoholic beer, talking shit and just hanging out and relaxing in this fog.
	This fog that smelt like burning flesh, that electrical burning smell.
	Sometimes you could smell something like that.
	You know how like if you have electrical wires start to burn a little bit in your vehicle and you can smell that sharp electrical burning smell, things of that nature.
	And at the time, we all thought, man, this really sucks, but hey, we're not outside the wire.
	We don't got to worry about getting blown up today.
	We don't have to worry about getting shot at.
	We don't have to worry about eating an RPG today.
	If this haze is the worst thing we got to deal with, a little bit of stench, well, we're still living good.
	And so we went about our business.
	We would cook our steaks or at other times we would walk to the gym or just hang out outside and have a cigar and enjoy the sunset or the nights were pretty nice.
	You could see a lot of the stars and stuff like that if you walked a little bit away from the living area where it was dark.
	The evenings in Iraq, the sunsets, for example, were amazing.
	The sunrise and the sunset in Iraq were amazing.
	And maybe the best part about being there, if you have to find something that was a silver lining, that was cool or good, that would be for sure on my list.
	The sunsets were just absolutely stunning.
	And so I don't know if Iraq will ever become or Kuwait or whatever will ever become a tourist destination.
	But if it is, that will certainly be something they can use to market people coming there.
	The nights and the evenings and the early mornings are quite beautiful.
	So anyway, let's continue.
	We've talked about this enough.
	There's a whole lot more.
	Let's see.
	Researchers said the likelihood of injury increased as service members spent more time around the chemical-aided smoke.
	We already said that.
	The wide array of toxic chemicals released during uncontrolled combustion in these pits may include chemicals that have deleteritorious neurobehavioral effects.
	I may have just butchered that.
	Deleterious neurobehavioral effects.
	And what is that?
	Okay, so I Googled it so I'm not giving you shitty information.
	Here's what it is.
	Deleterious neurobehavioral refers to something that negatively affects both the nervous system and behavior.
	For example, this might describe how exposure to Toxic substances like lead or certain drugs causes harmful changes in the brain function and behavior, such as memory loss, aggression, or attention deficits.
	Interesting.
	I wonder if they can link it to depression, anxiety, PTSD, all of these things.
	If this is true, this may be something that a whole lot of folks are really struggling with.
	Let's continue.
	For example, troops who lived near burn pits for at least 129 days during their deployments were 27% more likely to report symptoms of severe stress than individuals at bases without toxic smoke, and 37% more likely to suffer from any intracranial injury.
	Holy crap.
	Intracranial injury.
	It took me a whole 30 seconds.
	Troops with more than 474 days near the burn pits were 68% more likely to report severe stress than deployed troops without the smoke exposure and 124% more likely to develop intracranial wounds.
	Sleep disorder issues were 18% higher for troops with four months near burn pits and 35% higher for those who spent about 16 months nearby.
	All the groups exposed to the toxic smoke were more likely to die by suicide.
	And so just that paragraph that gives us some data and some stats makes me believe that this idea of deleterious neurobehavioral effects is something that is extremely prevalent.
	I mean, when we talk about veteran suicide, for example, 22 a day or 19 a day or 29 a day or 27 a day, whatever the number is right now at this time of the year or whatever, could this be something that is unequivocally to blame in one way or another?
	Maybe not 100%, but it would tell me that there's a really good chance.
	Let's just say, for example, I mean, the average deployment for the United States Army at the time was 16 months, 16 to 18 months.
	Six months of train up, usually, and 12 months in country, so 18 months.
	Well, that's what we were supposed to do.
	We ended up doing a whole nother, we got extended and were there for a whole lot longer.
	So I would say that those of us in the Minnesota Army National Guard, the 34th Infantry Division, Red Bulls, at the time from 2005, well, we didn't get there in 05, we got there in the beginning of 06.
	So from 06 to the middle of 07, we are in the 474 days living near burn pits, which means that those of us who were there in my brigade that were in Iraq, deployed at that time, are 68% more likely to report severe stress than deployed troops without the smoke exposure.
	And we are also 124% more likely to develop intracranial wounds.
	Now, this is really interesting to me because I just had this happen to me.
	And in fact, I'm still going through and I'm still trying to figure out what the hell is going on inside of my cranial, what's going on inside of my skull with my brain.
	So this last March, March, I think it was March 6th or March 7th, and then also on March 26th of 25, on each of those days, I had an operation done on my brain at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota.
	About a year before that, I was diagnosed with IIH, intracranial, excuse me, endopathic intracranial hypertension.
	And what I was told was that my brain makes too much cerebral fluid, too much spinal fluid.
	And that spinal fluid, the backup that that causes, was swelling up the veins inside of my cranium, which was also making my optic nerve swell.
	So I was losing my vision.
	And the reason that I found this out was that I was seeing starbursts.
	You know, like when you get your picture taken and the flash stays in your eyes.
	I was having that all the time, unexplained.
	And I went into the eye doctor to get my eyes looked at to see what the hell was going on.
	And the guy that I saw, the eye doctor, ophthalmologist, whatever they're called, optometrist, was extremely concerned.
	In fact, he directed me to go right to the emergency room.
	And he said in that room, it appears to me that you have endopathic intracranial hypertension.
	You need to go to the hospital right now.
	In fact, I can call you an ambulance if you'd like.
	Well, I was pretty freaked out about that.
	I went in for an eye exam, for Christ's sake.
	And so I get to the hospital and they do all these tests, these MRIs, and then they give me a spinal tap to drain the fluid from my spine where they took about four to five and a half vials of spinal fluid out of my spine.
	And then sent me on my way to go see a neuro-ophthalmologist.
	And so for a whole year, I was under the care of this neuro-ophthalmologist, and they were giving me medication.
	They were giving me medication to reduce the amount of liquid in my body, to get this extra fluid out of my brain, out of my head, and out of my body to help ensure that my optic nerves stop swelling and, in fact, return to normal.
	And for about six months, it worked.
	It was working, the swelling was going down.
	I had to pee a lot, but I couldn't have any alcohol, which was okay.
	I'm fine with that.
	I prefer to partake in other methods of relaxation, if you will.
	And any kind of beverages that were carbonated, you know, soda or soda water, LaCroix, things like that, all taste like you got pennies in your mouth because of this medication.
	It was called Diamox.
	And I was taking 16 or 18 of these pills a day.
	4,000 milligrams a day of this stuff I was taking.
	Now, I will say that I was offered surgical intervention, but I wasn't really willing to do that.
	I wasn't really willing to have shunts put in.
	I wasn't really willing to have...
	There's three options.
	One of them is to install a shunt where they cut out a piece of your skull.
	They put in this drain.
	It goes down your body.
	And then every so many years, you have to have it cleaned or replaced to make sure that you don't get infected or anything like that.
	The second option was a procedure where they knock you out.
	They remove your eye from the socket.
	And they make little tiny incisions in the very, very delicate sleeve that surrounds your optic nerve so that the fluid can drain out, thus letting the swelling come down.
	And I wasn't really willing to do that.
	It kind of freaked me out, actually, to know that I would lay on this table and a group of doctors are going to remove my eyes from my head, slice up my optic nerve sheath, and then put my eyes back in and they're going to work the same way.
	I had visions of myself with one eye that was not working and one that was.
	And I was really, really against that one.
	The third operation, the third option was to have stents installed into my brain via your femoral artery.
	They go in your femoral artery.
	They fish this thing all the way up your venous system.
	Find where it needs to go and install these stents, thus opening the passages, letting the fluid flow, and then reducing the inflammation.
	And so after a year, and the neuro-ophthalmologist had told me, the medication isn't working anymore.
	These are your three options for treatment.
	If you don't want to do them, I understand, but that's all I got for you.
	So if that's not what you want to do, we can keep your medication going, knowing that it's not working.
	But other than that, I'd have no other treatment options.
	So the interesting thing about endopathic intracranial hypertension is that they have been researching this condition for, I think it's going on 35 to 40 years.
	And nobody, nobody has figured out what causes it.
	They know how to treat it with medication or three surgical operations, but that's really it.
	And so I found myself in this position where I was pissed off because in my mind, 1,000% of this problem was trauma-based.
	You know, I had, you know, years of being a young man.
	You know, I played sports.
	I was a bounty hunter for a long time.
	Stu and I would roam in the streets for many years.
	You know, and every now and then you get into a scuffle or you hit your head or something like that.
	Football, military explosions, other things.
	You know, I mean, your head's not always protected.
	And so I had trauma and trauma to my brain.
	And I thought for sure that this is due to trauma.
	But there isn't a doctor out there that'll say, yeah, you know what?
	Maybe it could be.
	And my opinion about that is that there isn't a doctor that wants to take responsibility for saying, yeah, you know, this could be trauma-based.
	Maybe this is all happening to you because your brain has been, has taken a beating.
	Maybe not.
	But nobody would really have that conversation.
	I would raise these concerns and, you know, the doctors would go, well, that's never been proven.
	You know, I don't know.
	Maybe you're onto something.
	Maybe you're not.
	So anyway, fast forward to March of 25, I have these operations.
	Well, on March 6th, I'm sorry, March 7th or 5th, whatever it was, first week of March, I go in and I have the first stint put in down at the Mayo Clinic.
	And after it's done, they do an MRI with the dye and they inject it and all this other stuff.
	And the doctor came back as I was in recovery and said, okay, well, the first one went really well.
	In fact, he said, can you come back next Wednesday in like six days or something?
	And we'll put another one in.
	The first one they put in goes from behind my right ear to the middle of the back of my head.
	On the 26th of March, I had another one installed from the top of my head down the center to almost where the other one is.
	And what he told me after the very first one was installed is, well, I see in the MRI that there's a pretty sizable blood clot in your brain, right in the vein where your spinal fluid flows.
	And I said, oh, well, blood clot.
	Well, what's that all about?
	Well, we don't know.
	And so what happened was when I got the second one, he cut it out.
	He took it out.
	It was pretty large.
	He said it looked pretty old.
	But it's concerning.
	The spot and where it was in the middle of the top of my head was concerning.
	Apparently, they are able to tell what might have happened to you based on where these blood clots are.
	Well, where it was in my head, nobody really seemed to have a real good idea or any really good advice or anything to tell me about what might have happened to cause this.
	And then, when I asked the question, well, could it be from having my head beat in?
	Could it be from that?
	Well, maybe.
	Okay.
	Well, we need to talk about that.
	So now we're doing hematology and we're doing all these tests and trying to figure out all this other stuff to figure out why I have blood clots in my brain.
	And so I go way around the block to tell you that story to go across the street to say that this is something that may open a door for many veterans who have unexplained things going on.
	If they can pinpoint how long they were in country and then how likely they are to have these things, and if we, the 34th ID, the Red Bulls, were living by toxic burn pits for 474 days or more, we are 124% more likely to develop intracranial wounds.
	Well, is a blood clot in my brain due to trauma from being blown up?
	Is that an intracranial wound?
	Maybe.
	So this really stuck out to me.
	Sleep disorders, 18% higher for troops with four months near burn pits, 35% higher for those who spend about 16 months nearby.
	All the groups exposed to toxic smoke were more likely to die by suicide.
	What's the common denominator for all of these things?
	For intracranial wounds, for sleep disorders, for depression, PTSD, anxiety, adjustment disorder, all of this shit that they label us with.
	The common denominator is that for GWAT, for global war on terrorism veterans who were deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, burn pits.
	The burn pits are the common denominator.
	Not all of us were exposed to roadside bombs.
	Not all of us were exposed to RPGs.
	Not all of us were exposed to everything that happens on a day-to-day basis except the burn pits.
	We were all exposed to that.
	When you were at the gym, when you were going to the chow hall, when you were laying in your bed in your hooch.
	Everybody was exposed.
	So this becomes extremely interesting to me.
	We have to take a break, though.
	We'll be right back.
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	Hey, folks, welcome back here.
	Before we went to the break, I was getting a little heated just simply just because when these types of things come out, this information comes out, it really gets me thinking.
	It really gets me thinking about why.
	Why some of these things went down the way they did.
	And I'm no environmental expert, not at all.
	But for many years of my life, I was told by multiple people all the time as a kid, loved being by the bonfire, loved throwing in shit.
	Well, we got garbage.
	Let's burn it.
	It's cool to throw things in and watch it burn.
	And everyone would say, well, you know, don't throw that bottle in there.
	Don't throw that plastic cup.
	Don't throw those plates and the marshmallow wrappers and the candy wrappers.
	We don't burn that stuff.
	It's not good for the environment and it might be toxic to us.
	I was told that multiple times as a young person.
	And so it makes me wonder what the conversation was like when the first burn pit was dug.
	And who thought that this might be an amazing idea?
	Who thought it would be a good idea to dig massive holes in the earth and put everything under the sun in there and just burn it?
	All the garbage, all the severed limbs, all the medical waste, all the food, all that stuff.
	Who would have thought?
	Tires, vehicles.
	I mean, every now and then you would hear of them just throwing vehicle parts in it.
	Oh, armor off these vehicles that were destroyed.
	Well, we're going to take it off these trucks or whatever.
	What are we going to do with it?
	Well, throw it in the burn pit.
	You know, it'll, it'll, it probably won't go away, but it'll smolder and blah, blah, blah.
	And it's where we put our garbage.
	We didn't have landfills.
	We didn't have incinerators.
	We didn't have those things.
	So they had to do something with all the waste.
	But nobody thought to maybe we should build incinerators for these bases.
	Maybe we should do something else.
	And what that is, I don't know.
	Like I said, I'm not an environmental expert.
	I don't know what's safe for the environment, what's not, other than the common sense shit.
	But then as time went by and people were complaining about this smell and this smog and this smoke and maybe some breathing issues or just feeling like shit, no one ever thought to check these things out.
	Yeah, we could go on that goat trail for quite a while because there's probably many examples of things that have happened during our time at war that didn't make a whole lot of sense.
	But also with the understanding that sometimes just a decision just needs to be made.
	And we'll figure out if it's safe or not later.
	But right now it fits the need so that we can do this thing to help these soldiers meet the commander's intent, which is always the mission, right?
	Meet the commander's intent.
	Let's continue.
	Christian Hoover, a National Institutes of Health Research Fellow and one of the other authors of the report said the findings can't prove that toxic smoke from the burn pits caused troops brain injuries and mental health issues because the military never documented exactly what chemicals were in the air those individuals were breathing.
	But with this report, we've opened a book on a new set of questions.
	We've got evidence that is pretty compelling saying that environmental exposures can cause additional problems we were not thinking about.
	Well, no shit.
	Here's an idea.
	If you could say that the findings cannot prove that toxic smoke from burn pits caused troops brain injuries and mental health issues because the military never documented what chemicals were put in the burn pits and then thus in the air for us to breathe in, why don't you ask?
	Why don't you ask the soldiers that were there?
	Every day, every single day that those local nationals came on our bases to work, to earn money and work at the burn pits, those of them that worked at the burn pit every day on whatever base were all accompanied by U.S. soldiers.
	Nobody was allowed to roam the base without a guard or an escort.
	If you lived in town off base and you were an Iraqi citizen and you were coming on this base to work, you were escorted.
	You had a guard.
	And so that means that every single day that those burn pits were being filled, the ashes dug out, or whatever else they did, there was soldiers there watching.
	They were keeping track of what units maybe were coming to drop things off, how many loads a day, maybe not specifically what's in them, but they were there.
	They saw it.
	I was there for a week and a half.
	I can tell you that there were loads of containers filled with liquid from the motor pools thrown in the burn pits.
	Loads of tires thrown in the burn pits.
	Many loads from the TMC, from the Troop Medical Center where we go to see the doctor.
	Loads of medical waste thrown in the burn pits.
	The trucks that would come from the chow hall, all the food waste thrown in the burn pit.
	Now, mind you, all of this waste, if it's not like super heavy, is in bags, plastic bags.
	Guess what?
	Thrown in the burn pits.
	So, if you can say that you don't know exactly what was in there, okay, I understand that.
	But why don't you start asking and at least start a list of some things that people know for sure were thrown in there?
	If I tell you that there were loads of containers filled with liquid and other things from motor pools, what does that tell you?
	What does it tell you may have be in there?
	What kind of liquids come from a motor pool?
	Well, they work on tanks and trucks and Humvees and generators and all that shit.
	What could possibly be in there?
	Batteries, oil, fuel, transmission fluid, brake fluid, grease, metal, who knows what else?
	All kinds of stuff.
	So if we have loads of JP8 fuel and 10W40, whatever the weight oil they used, is just being tossed in there to just burn.
	And you can smell, you can smell that it's probably not good for you.
	You could smell it all the time.
	If the wind was right, it was a shitty day to be outside.
	Because like I was saying earlier, that smoke would just settle over us.
	And then it would just stay stagnant right where we were at.
	The connection between war zone burn pit smoke and respiratory illness, including several rare and fatal cancers, has been established in recent years through the specific research and congressional legislation, the PACT Act.
	In 2022, lawmakers adopted the PACT Act, which revamped how VA officials provide health care and benefits to individuals who lived around burn pit smoke, acknowledging the risks that it created.
	But Hoover said much of the research has been focused on visible physical injuries like lung and respiratory tract damage, which are easier to see and diagnose.
	He hopes that this study will draw attention to other less researched negative health effects of the war zone, of the war zone airborne threats.
	Well, I'll tell you what, folks, it seems to me that some of this stuff that they talk about shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
	I think it's safe to say that we can assume what the hell was going in these pits.
	The GSA, right, GSA is the organization within the federal government that handles logistics, that supply everything.
	The GSA keeps copious notes of what it's sending out and what it's getting back or whatever.
	Because I can tell you for sure, I retired in 2021.
	I just recently got a letter from the Department of Defense that I owe them like another $172 for a jacket.
	But yet we don't know what the fuck we were putting in burn pits.
	Nobody wants to come clean about that.
	There's nobody that worked at GSA from 2001 to 2011 that could talk about, oh, well, this was the fuel we sent.
	This was the oil we sent.
	These are the medical suppliers that we used, that we bought stuff from to send over to treat the soldiers.
	I mean, all the stuff that we put there is what we burned.
	Once it was consumed and the stuff was left over, that's what went in the burn pits.
	When guys were riding down the highway doing their job and all of a sudden they got no legs and the legs are in the passenger seat or in the back seat and they get pulled out of there when the truck gets back to a base, those went in the burn pit.
	So we know who made the uniforms that got burned.
	We know that there was flesh and bones.
	We know that was in there.
	I'm pretty sure we can find out the brand of oil that went in there, the fuel that went in there.
	We can find out who made the plastic bags that all this waste went into to be burned.
	I don't buy this idea that we don't know exactly what was in there.
	That's fucking bullshit.
	We have an idea of exactly what went in there.
	And so for them to claim that, well, we just don't know exactly what chemicals and this, bullshit.
	We know what we were sending there.
	And maybe we can't tell exactly with 100% confidence that these were all the things that we burned.
	But we can certainly know with 100% confidence what suppliers we used and where it was sent to.
	If these son of a bitches are sending me letters for $174 for a jacket that got burned in a Humvee after we were hit with an IED with a homemade accelerant on it, and the truck burned to the ground, all was left was a brittle frame.
	I'm pretty sure we can figure out and have a pretty goddamn good idea what types of things we were throwing in those pits.
	And why all of these men and women are suffering.
	Why we got blood clots in our brains.
	Why we have cancer.
	Why we have chronic everlasting sinus infections.
	Skin diseases, all kinds of shit.
	And so when I say things like, this is going to be our age in orange, just as our hero is age in orange, this is exactly why.
	The government has acknowledged That burn pits are a thing, and they have acknowledged that they're dangerous and they're toxic and that we were exposed.
	But they're not going to finish out by saying these are the things that we know we sent over to these bases.
	And so we can assume that at least all of these things were put into burn pits because that's what we consumed.
	It didn't go anywhere else.
	The local deks came by all the time.
	They collected our trash and those trucks went to the burn pit to be thrown in there.
	All the shit went in the same place.
	So I don't buy it.
	I don't buy it.
	The article finishes out by saying this could open up a whole world into how toxic exposure affects mental health and mental health treatments.
	There is still a stigma associated with a number of these issues.
	This raises the question of whether there is a way to understand all of it as something that happened to me rather than through me.
	I don't understand what that means.
	There is still a stigma associated with a number of these issues.
	This raises the question of whether there is a way to understand all of it as something happened to me rather than through me.
	The study is scheduled to be published in the Journal of Occupational Environmental Medicine in the next few days.
	Well, this article was put out on Monday of this last week.
	And as of right now, at the time of shooting this show, it has not been published.
	So take that for what it's worth.
	But I got to say, man, like these are the things that get veterans so excited and pissed off.
	And these are the things that cause members of our military and the veteran culture to mistrust what we're told.
	These are the reasons why when we go to the VA and something just maybe doesn't seem quite right, we always go right to they're going to fuck us over.
	We go right to, well, you know, guys, a dead veteran is a cheap veteran.
	So why would they tell us everything that they put in the burn pits?
	Why would they go out of their way to do a little bit extra to ensure that we know exactly what we're dealing with?
	Because we have conversations all the time and we hear them on the news.
	If you watch it, what you read, social media, wherever.
	We hear it all the time.
	That, well, you know, we'll do the best that we can.
	We do the best that we can and we're going to make sure that we take care of our nation's heroes.
	They're a commodity that no one else in the world has and all that other bullshit.
	But we also hear all the time that, man, veterans are expensive.
	There's disability benefits every year and disability pay out to veterans through the VA.
	Man, it's a lot of money.
	How are we going to sustain paying all these veterans for the issues that they have because of their service?
	So when people say, well, you know, dead veterans are cheaper, well, fucking A. I imagine that they are.
	And I'm not sitting here trying to say that the United States government is trying to kill off veterans to save money, but I can certainly understand why people will draw those conclusions and jump to that narrative.
	I get it.
	I understand.
	And sometimes I have to say, I even get there too.
	Well, hello, this just doesn't make any sense.
	Why the fuck would they be doing this?
	When the institution that says that veterans are our nation's greatest, not economy, it's our greatest asset.
	Veterans are our greatest thing that we have to be able to show who we are and what we stand for.
	If you ever want to know what America is really about, talk to some veterans.
	Well, sometimes I would say that that's probably not a good idea.
	Because one thing I believe that the government thinks is that we're stupid.
	I think a lot of people assume that people who serve in the military are not very educated.
	They're not very smart.
	Yeah, of course, the guys that wear stars and birds on their chest, the colonels and the generals and shit like that.
	Yeah, of course, everyone assumes that they're smart.
	Up until a few years ago, I mean, we've seen some pretty horseshit leadership in our nation's military at high levels.
	But I think the other stereotype is that just the everyday regular guy, soldiers and veterans are just, you know, they're just dummies.
	They didn't have another option in life, so they chose the military.
	That's a common one also.
	But we're not.
	We're not that stupid.
	We're not that stupid.
	We know how to do research.
	We know how to read.
	We know how to put two and two together.
	One thing that I learned in the military about myself is that my bullshit meter is real sensitive.
	Jerry Huntington taught me that.
	Good friend of mine.
	We served together for quite a while.
	He always used to say, you know, those of us, some of us, our bullshit meters are real sensitive.
	So we can see through some of this bullshit, some of these fake promises that were made and things like that.
	Well, this here, this here is bullshit.
	I don't buy that they don't know what we were exposed to.
	And I believe that if they had a better idea of what we were exposed to, maybe we wouldn't all have to go through all of this shit.
	But I'm guessing that they're not going to ask.
	They're not going to ask the people that were there, well, hey, what kind of things did you see thrown in the burn pit?
	It's a Pretty simple question.
	And I'm sure those of us that were there could probably tell you exactly.
	And you know what else is funny is that there were a lot of conversations at the time while we were deployed.
	I know in our unit for sure, there was a lot of conversations about this haze, this smoke, these burn pits.
	And this can't be good for us, man.
	Are we sure that they put it in there?
	I mean, I remember a conversation about, are we sure they put it in the right place?
	We probably shouldn't be breathing this in all day, every day, all night.
	Probably, it might be in the wrong spot, you know.
	And so questions are asked and then, well, you know, I'm not sure.
	I'm not sure, but we got work to do.
	So make sure that your weapons are right.
	Make sure that the truck has fuel and it's maintenance and it's going to run and blah, blah, blah.
	We got stuff to do.
	We don't have to worry about the burn pits.
	We got work to do.
	And that's probably pretty common just about everywhere in the military.
	We can ask questions, but if it becomes something that takes a little more work away from what the mission is, well, then we'll talk about it later.
	Don't worry about it.
	So we'll see.
	We'll see if this article is in fact, or this research study is in fact published in the Journal of Occupational Environmental Medicine in the next few days.
	It's been six days now, and it's still not up there.
	So we'll see if it goes up there.
	I'm pretty interested to read some or all of it.
	But you heard it here, folks.
	Burn Pitts for the Global War on Terrorism Veterans is going to be just like Vietnam's Asian Orange.
	I believe that it is going to take out a lot of people.
	It's going to take out a lot of us that served.
	I think that that's just the long and short of it.
	Unless there's some more transparency and some more clarity about what really happened and how to maybe detoxify veterans from these things or make it better.
	But it doesn't sound like it.
	A lot of these issues that we are told about that people are having from this exposure are things that aren't curable, they say.
	Who knows if there's really a cure out there?
	But that's what I mean.
	All of these things get people to start thinking deeper and sometimes not on the right track, which is why we get a lot of conspiracy theories and all that other type of shit nowadays.
	So hang in there.
	We'll see what we're told a little ways down the road.
	But that's all the time we have for today.
	I want to thank you guys for being here.
	Enjoy the rest of your evening.
	We'll see you next week.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	As Christians in a Christian country, we have a right to be at minimum agnostic about the leadership being all Jewishly occupied.
	We literally should be at war with fucking Israel a hundred times over and instead we're just sending them money and it's fucking craziness.
	Look at the state of Israel.
	Look at the state of Tel Aviv and look at the state of Philadelphia.
	You tell me where this money's going.
	You tell me who's benefiting from this.
	I am prepared to die in the battle fighting this monstrosity that would wish to enslave me and my family and steal away any rights to my property and to take away my God.
	Go fuck yourself.
	Will I submit to that?
	If you've got a foreign state, you've got dual citizens in your government, who do you think they're supporting?
	God, right now, would you protect the nation of Israel and protect those of us, not just our church, but every church in the world and in this nation that's willing to put their neck on the line and say, we stand with them.
	We stand with them.
	You go to Trump's cabinet.
	You go to Biden's cabinet.
	for Jews.
	I have a black friend in school.
	I have nothing against blacks.
	She has nothing against me.
	She understands where I'm coming from.
	Excuse me, I'm a Jew, and I'd just like to say that, you know, in our Bible, it says that you're like animals.
	The Jews crucified our God.
	The Jews crucified our God.
	Here on the break, folks, we're going to talk about mushrooms.
	What do you know about mushrooms?
	Specifically, Coriolis versicolor mushrooms.
	Well, I don't know a whole lot, but I have some friends here that do.
	So I want to introduce you to Kurt and Kristen Ludlow.
	Hello, folks.
	How are you?
	Great.
	How are you doing?
	Very good.
	We have limited time.
	I don't want you to feel rushed, but I'd like you to tell us quickly about Coriolis versicolor mushrooms and this breakthrough that seemingly not a whole lot of people have been informed about or know about, but we're here to change that.
	So help us out.
	What do you know?
	Absolutely.
	Well, let me give you some background real quick on it and how we got our hands on it.
	First and foremost, one of our partners here at the company, his mother was dealing with a very severe issue that affected her lung.
	She was attending Sloan Kettering.
	That issue ended up getting worse.
	They tried everything medically they could to resolve it.
	Nothing worked.
	And so they gave her two months to live.
	He started reaching out to friends and family regarding her circumstances.
	And her cousin or her nephew out in Japan reached back and said, Look, I have something.
	It's just in a capsule form.
	It's a mushroom.
	We have a proprietary way we extract it.
	You know, he was talking to her son, his cousin, and said, Why don't you have your mom try it and just see if this might help her out in any way?
	And so she started taking it.
	And after 30 days, she noticed quite a considerable difference in the way she's feeling.
	Month two went by, more improvement.
	Month three, she's feeling as if there's no issues whatsoever.
	And she goes back to Sloan Kettering.
	Sure enough, they run lab work on her and find that condition to no longer be there.
	And so they were flabric acid.
	They wanted to know what she was doing.
	And of course, she was able to reach out to her nephew and bring all the information that they requested to them.
	And that's where the first clinical study started here in the United States.
	And from there, MD Anderson started studying it, the American Cancer Society, Loma Linda, Harvard.
	It's been published in the Library of Medicine many times.
	And today there's hundreds of studies on this mushroom.
	And what they've concluded was that it didn't cure it, didn't mitigate it, it didn't prevent anything, but specifically it would modulate the immune system and get it working optimally again.
	And if we can get our immune system working optimally again, I think you can agree that it's the best way to resolve any type of issue that we might be dealing with because that's what it's designed to do.
	And so for years, you know, if that happened to your mother, our partner Simon could not keep from telling anyone that would listen to him about it.
	And he started getting all types of reports back from different people with all kinds of different things that they were dealing with, that they were noticing some great results with it.
	And it wasn't just for sick, you know, people.
	It was for people that didn't want to get sick, that wanted to be proactive versus reactive.
	And, you know, many great things that people were saying with renewed energy, feeling younger, sleeping better, things like that.
	And so eight years ago, what ended up happening is one of our partners, aside from Simon, Steve, he lost a dog due to cancer.
	Within two months, Gino, our other partner, also lost a dog due to cancer and two of their children.
	And so they were sitting around looking into it.
	And the dogs are all between the ages of four and eight.
	They were young and they weren't happy about it.
	And here they had this mushroom that, you know, they'd been getting out to people for years as well as us.
	And they thought to themselves, wow, I wonder if this is safe for animals.
	And sure enough, they found a study done by the University of Pennsylvania declaring that dogs that were taking this product were living three times as long as the dogs that weren't that had a very aggressive form of cancer.
	And so at that point, that's where Pet Club 24-7 was born because they knew that they had an incredible strain.
	And here's what they found out, Richard, is 65% of our pets are getting cancer today.
	One in three allergies, 6 million new cases of diabetes are going on.
	They're medicating them with human medications.
	And our pets are living half as long as they used to.
	In the 70s, the average age of a golden retriever was 17.
	Today, that average age is 9.
	And they wanted to do something about it.
	So they added this mushroom into incredibly well-put together products with no bad ingredients because what they found and why these conditions were happening was it came down to like our humans.
	You know, it's the foods, treats, and toys they're eating.
	The regulations are very loose and it's causing all types of issues as a result of that, on top of all the other things that are going on.
	And that's where the company was born and that's where we are today.
	That's a beautiful story.
	I think that there are so many people that are looking for something that's not from the mainstream, not from big pharma or whatever the case may be.
	I mean, we all have these stories, right, about grandma's old home remedies.
	And I'll tell you what, I'm super interested in this because I have a dog.
	His name is Gus.
	He's a Burma doodle.
	He's five or six years old.
	He was supposed to be a mini.
	He's now a 108-pound lap dog.
	And he does struggle with some hip issues only at five or six years old.
	And he also has these subdermal, almost acne-like bumps on his skin or along his back and his side.
	And so as you're explaining all this, I'm thinking about Gus.
	I'm thinking, man, we need to get him these mushrooms.
	I also think about veterans, right, who have service animals and they get super attached.
	And I know a few that have been through two and are on their third dog now.
	And it's a real struggle for some of these guys because the training's long.
	They get super attached.
	They take these pets everywhere.
	And so this type of product, the mushroom, I think would be perfect for the veteran community as well.
	Do you guys see veterans or law enforcement or anything like that?
	Do people use them for these pets as well on top of some other supplements or anything else that might be out there on the market?
	Absolutely.
	Because regardless of what our pets are going through or even what they might potentially have to go through, their immune system is always going to be their first, their best bet, right?
	It's intelligently designed to handle everything in the body, repair, recover, rebuild, regulate, renew, rebalance everything that's happening inside of the body.
	So especially therapeutic dogs or dogs that are trained to do jobs where they have to focus and they have to have stamina and endurance.
	And we have spent a lot of time and resources training them.
	It's very important that we're not only keeping them with us longer, but that they actually have a good quality of life during those years.
	And so that's why we say every pet, every person every day should be getting this Coriolis versicolor mushroom into their system.
	We've been so blessed.
	God has given us a really pure and potent strain of this mushroom and we've perfected the extraction Process.
	So that's why we're seeing such positive results relatively quickly from anything that you can think of with dogs, cats, horses, even people.
	It's just been absolutely amazing.
	And we just want to be good stewards with what we've been given and take good care of it and be a part of restoring creation.
	So, especially in those conditions, we encourage you to get your pet on the Coriolis versus a color mushroom.
	Or if you're a veteran yourself and maybe you've been through some trauma and your body's been through a lot mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, let's get this mushroom into your system so that you can get that support that you need to really be able to recover from the inside out.
	Well, and it makes a lot of sense to me, right?
	I mean, let's get our immune systems working as our creator intended it to, instead of feeding it all this other junk and who, God knows what they give us in pill form and our food and all that other stuff these days.
	So this is actually a very refreshing conversation that we're having because it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of things out there that are holistic and are natural to help us feel better.
	Explain to us, we got a couple minutes left, why Pet Club 24-7?
	Why is it put out as a club?
	I think that this is an important thing to touch on.
	Yeah, it was really important to us.
	We feel very called to do what we're doing, and we know that we're able to offer the world a gift.
	And so we never really wanted to build a company.
	We want to build a community.
	That's the idea behind it is that if we stand up together and lock arms, change the way that we're doing things so that we can get different results and educate each other, make each other aware, connect each other with better solutions and better options that are going to give us better results and that are a lot more affordable in many cases.
	You know, we believe that this community can truly change the way that pets and people are being treated just by being a voice for those that don't have one.
	So that's why the name of the company is Pet Club 24-7 is because we want to be a community of people that are solution oriented, that do something about it, that don't wait for other people to fix our problems or solve what's going on, that we just stand up, control what we can control, and contribute how we can contribute through this community.
	That's beautiful.
	See, folks, here at the Stu Peters Network, we're here to help you feel better.
	We're so thankful that you guys are here, Pet Club 24-7.
	Kurt and Christine, we're very happy to have you.
	Thank you for everything that you've done, bringing this stuff out to people.
	Let's get healthy again.
	What was the movement that you talked about, Kurt?
	I said, you know, we have the Maha movement.
	We also have it here for our animals, make animals healthy again.
	Absolutely.
	We're applying to do so, just like on the human side.
	And people can count on the fact that there's no bad ingredients in our products.
	Everything made in human, great whole food commercial kitchens, all sourced from the U.S. and made right here in the U.S. Very important.
	Well, Kurt, Kristen, thank you very much for being here.
	Folks, Pet Club 24-7, make sure you get there, get your supplies of mushrooms, not just for you, but for your pets, dog, cats, horses, all those things.
	Pet Club 24-7, guys, thank you very much for being here.
	Let's connect soon.
	I'm going to get my supply and I'm going to report back for me and Gus to make sure that we do this full circle conversation.
	I'm super excited to talk to you guys again.
	We'll see you very soon.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Richard.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.
	There's nothing we wouldn't do for our pets.
	They're like our children.

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