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July 20, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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The VA’s Real Crisis: Gender Politics Over Veteran Care?
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All right, so you want to hear the new one?
The new one is that veterans, high-risk veterans, are being discriminated against at the VA all over the country.
Veterans who are gay, who are transgender, who are women, real women, and other vulnerable or I think vulnerable was the word they use, veterans, are being discriminated against because of President Trump and Doug Collins' rollback on favoritism based on gender and equality and marital status and all these things.
Political allegiance.
All these things are reasons, apparently, for discrimination at the VA and these things must be stopped.
So today we're going to have a conversation about that.
It sounds kind of confusing, I understand, but stick with us and we'll try to make some light on it.
Anyway, stick with us.
Don't go away.
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Okay, so I got to be honest, man.
I read this article.
What I was going to do is go through it with you like I do many other times on this show.
But it is very long and drawn out.
And I think that I got the basics of what's going on here.
I took some notes and wrote some things myself.
But this article was put out by The Guardian on Friday.
And it is titled Profound Alarm.
U.S. Veterans Agency Roiled Over Fight Over Anti-Discrimination Provisions.
Nearly 100 lawmakers claim the agency's recent actions put veterans' health care at risk.
And then, of course, the Department of Veterans Affairs Chief says no one is being discriminated at the VA.
Okay, so let's talk about this.
What really is going on here is that Doug Collins, the Secretary of the VA, along with President Trump's directives, is rolling back these policies to cater and provide special protected services or whatever to veterans who are mostly,
I believe that mostly this is all about the transgender veterans who no longer can go to the VA for their sex reassignment surgeries, their post-op care, or maybe even their pre-op care, and all of these other things.
And so what this is turning into is a fight about Doug Collins being some sexist person that wants to, number one, exclude the trannies and the gay folks from everybody else in the VA.
And then also certainly stop providing any care to transgender veterans.
And as Doug Collins says, if you want to change your sex and you're a veteran, that's fine.
Go ahead.
We wish you luck on your transition, but you're not doing it at the VA.
The VA is not going to provide you these services on the taxpayer's dime.
And I guess that I don't really see a huge problem with that.
I think that there are a lot of other things that we could be talking about as far as the VA is concerned and care to veterans, proper care to veterans, than whether or not we're chopping the dicks off of dudes or putting them on ladies.
I think that the directives were pretty clear.
And I think that the support from the American people is pretty clear.
The majority, the majority of voters in this country voted for things like this.
And so this is what's happening.
And I don't know, man.
I don't understand sometimes how this is so hard for people to understand.
There isn't a whole lot of things That I believe should be excluded when we talk about care for veterans.
But if we're talking about sex changes and all these hormonal treatments and all these things to change your gender, I don't support that either.
And I don't think that there's a whole ton of people out there that do, unless you are a person who would like to change their gender.
Unless you are, I don't know, one of those people that just overwhelmingly support this idea.
But the part of the article that really gave me trouble was that the author had claimed that this type of rollback on policies at the VA is going to have a detrimental impact on the mental health of veterans.
Maybe not as a whole, but a large amount of veterans.
And this, in turn, is going to significantly raise the suicide rate, the suicide rate of veterans as a whole, in general.
And that was my first red flag.
Like, to me, that is the biggest crock of bullshit that they can start spewing out of their mouths.
So just in summary of the article as a whole, I'll read this to you.
The rollback of explicit anti-discrimination language within VA medical bylaws represents a significant policy shift.
Critics argue it opens the door to bias on political, marital, or gender-based while legal protections become blurred.
As cases emerge of veterans encountering care denial or disruption, congressional leaders, legal experts, and advocacy groups are sounding the alarm.
This could change, here you go, this could change, this change could materially harm vulnerable veterans, especially the LGBTQ, female, rural, or politically active individuals.
So let me ask you this.
If I have never been to a VA facility for any kind of care, and I just decide to walk in there one day and enroll in VA services, sit down with the person, go through the forms or whatever, get my picture taken for a VA ID,
I am willing to bet that there isn't a whole lot of questions on there that must be answered about my sexual orientation or preference, my political views, or my marital status.
The VA will learn my marital status, of course, if I apply for any kind of other beneficibility, for example, because your rates, your pay rates based on your disability percentage also fluctuate with or without dependence.
So yeah, if I'm married, then I will claim my wife or my children as dependents so that my disability benefit is the proper amount.
Okay, so that's fair.
I'm willing also to bet that this paperwork and these questions, these questionnaires, do have questions on them about your sexual preference, your gender, your pronouns, what gender you would like to be labeled as, not what you were born as, but what you would like to be labeled.
Those are probably all on there.
But I'd be extremely surprised if they were required.
If those questions are required for me to receive care, I'd be shocked.
When have we ever, as a country who's been going to the doctor when we need to forever, since the beginning of time, right?
You're sick, you go find somebody that specializes in it.
They examine you, they treat you, they give you medication or whatever, and then they send you on your way.
Has anybody ever been asked or required to answer questions about their sexual identity, about their preferred gender?
Anybody ever been asked that?
I don't think so.
And if we are rolling back policies like this, then why all of a sudden would we be asking those questions?
And unless I'm extremely famous or a top-tier content creator, is my doctor, is the nurse that comes in to see me or the doctor that comes in, are they going to know who I am?
Are they going to know if I go to a new doctor's office, a new VA facility where nobody knows me and I go in there for care, is my doctor going to come in and go, hey, you're that Richard Leonard guy from the Richard Leonard show on the Stu Peters network?
Nope, I don't agree with you.
I don't agree with that Stu Peters guy.
I don't agree with any of that.
I can't treat you.
I'm out of here.
Or give me some kind of subpar care, not answer my questions and just give me some general examination, give me a clean bill of health.
Hey, man, you're healthy as a horse.
Get on out of here.
Have a great day.
I just don't see that happening.
There are instances probably where the mandates or the new policies that came down from higher say that you can't you if in Richard's chart, if in Richard Leonard's chart,
it says that his name is Rita and Richard Leonard or Rita was born as a female, although he presents himself as a male, there's probably some language in the policies that say you refer to this patient as whatever's listed on their chart, whatever their birth gender is.
Because if I'm not mistaken also, sometimes the care that we get depends on whether you're male or female.
Right?
I mean, so, I mean, this whole thing, maybe I'm, maybe I'm super, super effing ignorant, but this whole thing kind of just falls short for me.
And they can make these claims that there is this mass discrimination going on.
I think that if you come into the doctor's office and you check in, you're going to get the appropriate care for the conditions you have.
And if the treatment for said condition is different for a man or a woman, you're probably going to want the treatment that's appropriate for your birth sex, right?
So why would we villainize any medical professional for wanting to identify us as what we really are?
So that's the other red flag that I had.
All this, this idea about differences in care because I may not present the gender that I really am.
And then also the massive spike in veteran suicide rates because we're no longer performing sex changes or offering gender affirming care in VA facilities.
I don't buy that.
I think that this is another attempt to blur the lines of what is really going on and what the real problem in this country is.
In fact, I did a little bit of research about this suicide thing, right?
And what I thought it was going to say is exactly what the research said.
So I got to thinking about, I wonder what veteran suicide numbers were like in the 90s.
I mean, we had the Gulf War in the early 90s, and there were Gulf War veterans who were seeking treatment and all those things throughout the 90s into the 2000s, of course.
And then Iraq and Afghanistan started out the longest war in our country's history.
So then it just continued then.
And what the research said was there wasn't even really any, there wasn't even really numbers for veteran suicide back in the 90s.
Veteran suicide from the 1990s is limited.
The reliable data on veteran suicide from the 90s is limited.
The VA and the Department of Defense didn't start publishing these reports about suicide numbers until the mid-2000s.
So 2008, 2009, maybe even 05, after the first couple years of the war and the invasion of Iraq and all these things when we saw a lot of veterans coming home who had seen pretty intense combat.
And then when we got to 09, 2010, things like that, when guys had seen two or three, maybe some even four tours by then, depending on which branch of service, then they started reporting these numbers and tracking this data.
But there has never been any research that has been reported on that says and proves the fact or agrees with the idea that veterans who are not receiving the proper gender affirming care are going to spike suicide numbers amongst veterans.
Traditionally, veteran suicide has been mostly attributed to men and women who have been actively engaged in combat, who have troubles reintegrating when they get back.
They have a problem getting some of these things out of their minds, and it causes problems.
Post-traumatic stress, of course, depression, anxiety, adjustment disorder.
There's a whole litany of things that they'll diagnose you with.
But how about the idea that if veterans who are transgender, let's say, are overwhelmingly killing themselves, could it be that they have combat trauma?
Yes.
Yes, it could be.
Could it be that they have experienced MST, military sexual trauma, and those things are what is messing with their minds?
Yes.
Yes, it could be.
Do we agree, not overwhelmingly clearly in this country, but do we agree, is there a majority that agrees with the idea that folks who are transgender, for the Most part have a mental illness, and I think that the answer to that is yes.
What they call gender dysphoria seems to be running rampant.
So then I got to thinking about, well, why?
Why now?
Why in this generation is this just a madhouse running rampant, if you will?
And then, you know, you get to thinking about, well, is it a difference in how people are raised nowadays?
Is there a difference in the food or the environment or anything like that?
And I think that my opinion is, it has a lot to do with how we are raising our kids.
I don't think that it's a secret that for many people, the government raises their kids.
I mean, we see our kids every day.
We feed them.
We pay for them to eat when they're not with us.
We provide them clothes.
We provide them a roof over their house or a roof over their heads.
But every single day, most of the year, each and every year, many parents give their kids to the government every day.
The government mandates what they learn at school.
The government mandates what they're allowed to participate in.
The way that these lessons are fed to our children.
It's all mandated by the government.
What books are appropriate?
All of these things.
And I think that it hasn't been all that long ago that a large amount of parents and just people in general have been questioning what the hell is really being taught at school.
I mean, we heard stories of litter boxes in bathrooms at schools, tampons in boys' bathrooms here in Minnesota.
Old Tampon Timmy did that one.
We hear all kinds of horror stories about what goes on in public school nowadays.
All of our kids went to public school.
And so we got to hear about it.
In fact, many days we got to sit down and talk to the boys and look at what they're learning in school.
In the rare instance that they asked me or my wife for help, and you sit down and read what it is that they're working on.
And sometimes you go, well, what the hell is this?
And then it raises questions.
Why are our kids not being taught how to invest money?
Why are they not being taught how to balance a checkbook?
Not that anybody uses a checkbook anymore, but keep track of your money, what you're spending versus what you earn and why it's important to pay bills on time.
Why are our kids not really learning a whole lot about social activities, taking social cues, being respectful to other people?
I mean, all of those things that were taught years ago have just gone out the window.
And it's probably safe to say that my parents and parents of kids in my generation probably said similar things.
Well, just not like it used to be.
I mean, I could remember my dad talking about times when he would go to school and get two whoopins before lunch from the teacher.
Him and his siblings talk about teachers they had with the wooden paddles with the holes drilled in them.
And then folks nowadays, they throw up their hands and go, well, oh my God, I can't believe that that was even allowed.
I can't believe that that was even acceptable.
Well, look at the difference.
Look at the difference in that generation versus now.
Look at the difference in how people treated each other, how people respected their elders, how people respected public places, and just each other in general.
We are now a country filled with so much discontent and hatred, and we're so polarized.
And then folks wonder why, which is baffling to me.
Why does anybody wonder why things are so different?
And all you got to do is talk to some older people.
Talk to your parents.
Talk to your grandparents if you're lucky enough to have them around still.
There's no doubt in my mind that even a little bit of a healthy fear of your parents, of whoever's in charge, is a good thing.
I think it keeps people in check.
It keeps people in line.
The threat of going to prison for the rest of your life keeps most people in line.
The threat of going to jail overnight even is a deterrent and keeps people in line.
And so now that we're in this spot where we are removing accountability and all these other things, we have what we have.
And then we have media outlets spinning stories and narratives about something that probably isn't even Really affected.
I mean, if we want to say that veterans who are transgender have a higher suicide rate than veterans who are not transgender, okay, I would believe that probably is true.
And is it safe to assume that some of, most of, majority of transgender veterans who are committing suicide may have some regrets about what they've done to themselves?
Maybe not.
But to throw out some narrative that this is going to significantly increase the amount of veterans who are killing themselves across the spectrum is complete bullshit.
And I believe that it's things like this that raise people's defenses about a lot of stuff and gets people all spun up for no reason.
Well, look, it's got me spun up.
I just don't understand why we in this country can't just call a spade a spade.
If you hate your dick and you want to chop it off, fine.
But the powers that be say you can't do it here.
So go find somewhere to do it if that's what you want to do.
Nobody's stopping you.
Nobody's telling you that you can't.
But a government-funded agency that's funded by the taxpayers of this country, who majority of voted for this exact type of thing to happen, are not willing to pay the bill.
Just like many other things in this country, taxpayers aren't willing to pay the bill, but we do anyway.
So when we see things like this, a lot of people are going to go, yeah, no problem.
Quit cutting dicks off at the VA.
Especially when there are so many other programs, initiatives, and so many other veterans that need so many different things that this should not even be a discussion point.
We were already told.
This ain't happening anymore.
Okay?
So you got to find somewhere else to do it.
And of course, when you got to find somewhere else to do it, it means it ain't free.
Which is probably the other reason why people are pissed off.
Because now they got to figure out how to pay for it.
In my mind, it's a cosmetic surgery, right?
If I knock my two front teeth out playing softball or hockey or getting in a fight or something when I had civilian health insurance, nobody's paying for that.
It's cosmetic surgery.
So yeah, we'll do it, but it's going to cost you.
I don't see that this is any different.
Why should the masses have to pay for something cosmetic that you don't like about your body?
How many insurance policies pay for breast implants for women?
How many insurance policies pay for calf implants for men who are self-conscious about their chicken legs because they don't understand how to lift legs?
How many insurance policies are putting fake butt cheeks into men and women that think they need them?
I don't think there's really any.
And if there is, okay, then paint me wrong.
But I highly doubt it.
So why would this be any different?
And then why would we spin a story that talks about the fact that we're going to see this dramatic rise in VA suicide numbers?
It's stupid.
And this is exactly the type of thing that many Americans throughout the last election cycle were screaming about.
And when Biden was in office, sleeping his way through four years, everyone was pissed off about misinformation, disinformation.
That's blah, blah, blah.
Well, it hasn't changed.
It hasn't changed at all.
Anyway, we have to take a break.
So stick with us.
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Hey, folks, welcome back here.
Let's continue on.
There's a couple other things that I just want to read to you here that I found.
Department of Veterans Affairs under Secretary Collins quietly rolled back key anti-discrimination protections in its medical bylaws, specifically removing language that bar discrimination based on political views, marital status, or gender identity.
We talked about that already.
Under controversial moves include, other controversial moves include banning pride flags in VA hospitals, dismantling the Office of Equity Assurance, and removing gender identity educational materials and outreach posters.
Okay.
Well, why is that a profound, profoundly alarming?
Doug Collins told us that he was going to do that.
President Trump said that that was coming to all government agencies.
We're not doing that shit anymore.
Doug Collins came back and said, Collins asserts that these are mere formalities required to comply with the Trump-air executive orders and insists the changes don't affect veterans' rights.
Everything is supposedly still protected under the prior 2013 Obama directive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The VA response to this accusation was terse, accusing the outl.
So the VA was accusing these outlets, these media outlets like The Guardian of maliciously false reporting and claiming no discrimination is tolerated while declining to elaborate.
So the VA was not going to respond to these questions because they deem it to be maliciously false reporting.
And I agree.
Why would they grace the Guardian with their response?
Clearly, these are loaded questions designed for you to look like an asshole if you answer them.
And furthermore, the answers to the questions that the Guardian has is all out there.
It's all public knowledge.
The executive order said that we're going to do this.
Doug Collins agreed to do what he was told by the executive order.
He did it.
And now everyone's all up in arms about it.
We knew it was coming.
So I don't understand what everyone's so pissed off about.
And nearly 100 members of Congress, including all the big hitters like Blumenthal and Chuck Schumer, expressed this profound alarm, warning that providers could refuse care based on marital status.
An example of that is married, single, or same-sex.
And also political beliefs.
Like I said, who's asking you what your political beliefs are when you go into the doctor?
What does that have to do with me coming to get care?
I don't know.
And maybe there are doctors out there that are just crazy enough.
They're not going to provide you care if they think that you're a lefty or a righty or whatever.
And if that's the case, then those doctors should be dismissed.
I've never been to medical school or anything like that, but I assume there's some kind of code of ethics when you become a medical professional, when you become a doctor.
Don't you have to take some oath to not intentionally do harm or do this and that and blah, blah, blah.
Isn't there a whole oath that revolves around some kind of code of ethics?
If you violate That, then, yeah, you should be dismissed.
But if you walk into my office, if you're a man and you walk into my office and I'm a doctor and you're dressed as a woman, I'm going to think that you're just a cross-dressing dude.
You got the flu?
Okay, well, I don't care what you think you are.
Here's some antibiotics.
Hope you feel better in a few days.
Take two of these and call me in the morning.
What's the problem?
I don't get it.
And so then I found some real-world impact stuff, right?
Like transgender veterans have alleged that they are already experiencing misgendering and disruptions in care.
Well, you're not being misgendered.
You're being referred to as whatever equipment you had when you were born.
That's how the medical field properly treats its patients.
Isn't that one of the first things?
Are you a man or a woman?
What's your age?
Aren't those like the two first things that we need to know when we're deciding medical treatment?
Like how much medication you should be getting based on your age and size and sometimes gender?
The whole thing is just asinine to me.
I don't understand.
And then you got people like this guy, Dominic Medley.
He's a gay veteran.
He had to travel four hours for HIV medication after his local VA staff were unable to administer it.
He suspects discrimination.
Hmm.
And then also Navy veteran Carrie Sutton alleges her neurology appointment was canceled after she spoke out as a survivor of military sexual trauma.
She suspects retaliation and filed a complaint.
Retaliation for what?
Because you spoke out about being sexually assaulted in the military?
Well, I don't know about that.
Unless you're the accuser of the doctor, maybe.
I don't know.
I mean, I suppose that some of this stuff could be true, but if that's the case, then these doctors need to be dismissed.
But to cast this wide net over the whole institution because there's a few bad apples should not be, in my opinion, a way for political gain for anybody.
But that's the world that we find ourselves in now.
Now we are at a place where everything has to do with some kind of political advantage or disadvantage or your advantage or disadvantage to free shit.
It's just, I have a hard time getting down with any of this stuff.
So systemic concerns.
Legal scholars warn the changes create a murky environment.
Doctors could decline treatment for reasons like political beliefs, marital or sexual activity, and even allegations of abuse.
I just don't see that happening.
And if it is, is there enough of these instances to change the whole system?
And I'm not trying to say that, you know, there's only two or three, it's no big deal.
Of course it is.
One person being abused or whatever or mistreated, especially in a medical facility, is unacceptable.
But is it cause to change the whole system for everybody?
Isn't this why we have investigations and things of that nature?
Internal VA and government accountability office reports indicate persistent racial and gender disparities, both in care access and benefits.
All of that now that the rollback further threatens to ignore or exacerbate.
So the idea that we're getting rid of pride flags and we're getting rid of this care for trannies and this and that and the other thing.
Now that's going to accelerate and exacerbate all of these issues.
It's going to make discrimination worse.
But this only relies on the idea that all these doctors are out here just telling people no because they're a tranny.
Well, first of all, the policy says that.
But now we're also labeling all the doctors as some kind of assholes because they're going to refuse to treat you based on your political views.
Whistleblowers and former staffs report a chilling effect among clinicians, morale decline, and removal of informational materials, signaling a deep unrest within the agency.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't signal a deep unrest in the agency.
What it signals is that there was an executive order, and the secretary is following the order to remove that shit out of VA facilities.
Plain and simple.
I mean, if anything, they should be MFing Donald Trump all up and down the wall like they do anyway.
But for this article and these issues, if they want to complain to anybody, it should be Donald Trump, not Doug Collins.
Trump's the one that put out the executive order.
But I'm guessing they know where that complaint will end up.
Right in the basket.
And so, you know, let me ask you this.
Do you believe and do you trust that there are all of these clinicians out there that are doing this shit?
Or do you think that it is a smaller issue than they're making it out to be?
Not that it makes it okay.
But it's a small enough issue that we don't need to change the whole agency.
We don't need to rewrite all the policies.
Based on some malarkey that's cooked up.
Like the idea that getting rid of care for transgender veterans is going to spike veteran suicide rates.
When we know, research says, over the last 22 years that we were at war, that the veteran suicide epidemic is mostly a trauma-based issue.
Combat, accidents, things of that nature.
Not regrets over cutting your dick off.
You'll never convince me.
Never convince me that's a thing.
Research also shows, even for Vietnam veterans.
We can go all the way back to the 60s and 70s.
Vietnam veterans who were killing themselves were guys and, well, and gals.
I mean, there were gals out there.
That had to see and do some pretty horrific shit.
And sometimes there's just no coming back from that.
So if the argument is that men cutting off their dicks is a horrific sight, I'd agree with that.
And if the argument is that dudes who decide to cut off their wieners regret it later.
And now that you regret it, there's zero way to go backwards.
I'd understand that too.
But that's just me.
Here's another thought I had.
Transgender veterans, like any other group, deserve appropriate medical care and respect.
They represent a very small percentage of the veteran population.
Under 1% of the veteran population is transgender.
Their mental health concerns matter, but they are not the primary reason suicide rates are high across the entire veteran community.
Claiming that veteran suicide is high because the VA isn't prioritizing trans-specific issues is a political misdirection.
It's not a reflection of real data.
Not at all.
This claim is like blaming a house fire on one lit match when the house is soaked in gasoline.
If you light a match in a house that's doused in gas with fumes and shit everywhere and the thing goes up in flames, well, it isn't just the match's fault.
If that makes sense.
And in my opinion, the veteran suicide crisis is a combat-driven, trauma-rooted issue.
A thousand percent.
Now, there have been discussions about veteran suicide numbers and the amount of them that are committed by veterans who never deployed to combat, who have never seen combat.
And so that's a whole other subset.
But here now we're talking about veterans who are less than 1% of the population.
I mean, I suppose that some people see how this idea is going to work.
I mean, every cop in America became the devil when George Floyd overdosed on drugs.
And the political sphere in this country painted it as cold-blooded murder on the street of Minneapolis.
I mean, it just wasn't the case.
But it caught fire.
It caught fire all over the world.
All over this country, for sure.
There's streets named after the guy.
Little high school football stadiums named after the guy.
There's monuments and statues built of him.
And all he was was a career criminal, a shitbag that overdosed on fentanyl while being arrested for committing a federal offense.
And the whole world blew up.
Because some people said that he was murdered on the streets of Minneapolis.
I don't understand how that makes sense.
How that makes sense to anybody.
I just don't.
I don't get it.
and so and so and so now what this here is another i mean we talk about it on this show often but this here is another example of how resources time and and energy are going into things that that really that really shouldn't be an issue.
And I think that this particular example is better than others that we've talked about in the past because it doesn't sound like the VA and Doug Collins are really giving it all that much attention.
They declined all the interviews.
It sounded like they had a little bit of dialogue with these people.
But what is the real answer?
And I mean, I guess I'm no genius, so maybe my opinion is way far off.
But I think that if we were to focus on the things that matter most, quality care for all veterans, based on who you really are,
is something that we should probably get under control first before we start adopting all of these other issues and all these other things to dig our claws into.
And maybe for some, maybe for some, quality care isn't all that.
It's not an issue.
Maybe for some of them, it's not an issue.
Maybe they are getting quality care.
But if everyone was getting quality care, we wouldn't even be having these discussions.
But the care that veterans are going to receive or are receiving at VA facilities is all based on the direction that is given.
if if the
If the powers that be came out and said any veteran that displays frustration or is upset or frustrated or just not the easiest person to deal with when they come to check in at the VA, any of those people that bitch about anything, we're not going to give them care.
Would the whole world blow up?
No.
No, I don't think it would.
I think there would be some discussions, and I think that eventually we'd get to an answer.
But when the powers that be say, well, we're done chopping off wieners, we're done providing all of these chemical treatments, all this mental health care, all this stuff for transgender ideology and transgender services.
I don't know that the world should be blowing up anyway.
And the other thing that I wonder about this is why would women veterans be cut off from benefits because the trannies are having trouble?
I mean, there was information in there about how women's clinics are losing staff and this and that and the other thing.
And I guess I don't know anything about that.
But if you're a proud woman veteran, I would think that this type of thing would be frustrating as hell to you.
Because if services for women are being disrupted because the dudes who want to be women are causing problems, well, that's an issue.
Why would their care be disrupted?
And as Doug Collins says, nobody's being discriminated against.
If you come to the VA and you need services, you'll get them.
But you're not getting transgender services.
We're not doing that.
And I don't think either that gay folks, it'd be hard to believe that veterans who are gay are experiencing all kinds of problems.
Gay veterans have been going to the VA for decades.
Yeah, we had don't ask, don't tell, but there was a lot of gay people in the military.
So what?
And I wonder, I wonder if like the gay folks, the bisexual folks, the lesbians, you know, that type of thing.
I wonder if they're pissed off about all of these other letters joining and all these other things.
I mean, LGBT, Q plus, blah, blah, blah.
What happened to LGB?
I mean, it seems like every few years we're adding another letter or another symbol.
I wonder if just traditional gay people are pissed off about being lumped in with some of this psychotic bullshit.
I don't know.
I guess maybe not.
I don't know.
It all kind of just, to be quite honest, it all kind of just blows my mind that people are quick to support this idea that you can just change your gender.
And that when you Hear men, for example, who identify now as women shoving tampons in their asses or whatever, or talking about they're able to get pregnant and have kids and all that type of thing.
How anybody's like, oh, yeah, yeah, well, no, I get it.
I understand.
Yeah, you're being discriminated against.
Instead of saying, well, hold on here, what?
You're shoving women's products in your butthole?
Nobody asks any other questions about that?
I mean, yes, people do, but like people close to these folks don't, I mean, maybe they do.
And I don't know.
It's all just so wild to me, man.
That these debates even gain any traction and get media coverage and things like that.
But I guess it's a testament to, you know, bad news travels faster and people like a good, crazy story.
But I believe that we're getting to a place where now this craziness is really going to start to affect regular people.
It's really going to start to affect folks who just want to go and get their medication, get in and out of the doctor, and get on with their life.
But now if ladies, if ladies are being affected because a bunch of dudes who hate their wieners are causing problems, well, that's an issue.
They didn't ask for that.
But at the end of the day, what we do know is that the majority of people in this country, as we saw in the election, support this type of thing, these types of rollbacks.
Yeah, take out all of the gender identity pamphlets.
Take down those fucking flags from the VA.
the pride flags and the, and the transgender flags and all these things.
Call it.
Call it fucked up of me if you want to.
But the way I see it is when we wore a uniform, we all looked the same.
I mean, of course you can tell man from woman.
You know, little girls could have buns and things like that.
But we all wore the same clothes.
We all pretty much looked the same except for our physical features.
Same color boots, same clothes, same t-shirt, same insignias, same hats.
Not to say that when you get out of the military, you have to be one in the same because you don't.
But we shouldn't be surprised when we go to a facility or to an organization that caters to military people and kind of has always followed a military style structure of sorts.
The way they do things, in my mind, is kind of like the military.
Always has been.
I mean, they lose a lot, they lose a lot of paperwork and things like that, but just operating in general.
We shouldn't be surprised when they start taking those things away because it's causing a disruption.
It's causing a problem.
And furthermore, the taxpayers in this country don't want to pay for you to get your dick removed.
And I don't blame them because if we do that, then what's next?
Then we're going to have to start paying for ladies to get breast implants.
We're going to have to pay for dudes to get calf implants and butt cheeks and lip fillers and whatever else can be done.
It's a slippery slope.
But furthermore, we're not going to feed into this ideation that you can change your gender.
If you're a man, you can change yourself to be a woman and potentially have children and vice versa.
Nobody should have to, not everybody should have to agree with it just because you want to do it.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm preaching to the choir.
But this is ridiculous.
And Doug Collins, I support your initiative.
You're doing what you were told to do.
And that's really the long and the short of it.
So I was glad to see that he declined to talk to these idiots and let the article speak for itself.
So it is what it is right now, I guess.
The question is, in three and a half more years, are they just going to reverse all of this stuff and then we're going to be cutting dicks off at the VA again?
I don't know.
We'll see.
The budgets, I assume that the VA and the DOD and the military budget this coming fiscal year is going to be absolutely asinine.
And so who knows if there'll be money in a few years for gender reassignment surgeries and shit like that.
It's ridiculous.
Anyway, folks, have a great rest of your evening.
It's all the time we have for today.
We'll see you next week.
night we have a big problem and This is going to continue ongoing.
This is an outrage to America.
You talked about law.
This is a travesty to law.
There is no law because the information and money are completely controlled by a small group of people.
And if you say their name, you're called an anti-semi.
You're called an anti-semi.
Go, go, go.
Go, go, go.
Go, go.
Go, go, go.
I just don't understand how you have a country where your politicians have more allegiance to a foreign nation than they do their own.
I honestly think that we have literal treason going on right now where Israel's interests are being put before America's interests.
Is America a sovereign nation or are we being controlled by Israel?
People are always talking about they are out of control.
They are killing us.
We have to identify who the real enemy is.
The satanic Jews, they control everything and mostly everybody.
What difference does it make if it's a baby or if it's an adult?
It's a same thing.
There's one little major state of Israel that everybody's afraid to talk about.
It'll get you nuked off the internet.
It'll scare advertisers away from doing business with you if you talk about Zionist infiltration.
Are you a Zionist?
Yes.
You have to get rid of APAC.
You have to get rid of, you know, the Israeli control over a country.
I mean, there's no one, I mean, because they clearly don't give a shit about it.
Are you part of the Jewish conspiracy?
What exactly is the maybe?
I'm Jewish.
Those are the words that he told us that he would never use again.
The End Here on the break, folks, we're going to talk about mushrooms.
What do you know about mushrooms?
Specifically, Coriolis versicolor mushrooms.
Well, I don't know a whole lot, but I have some friends here that do.
So I want to introduce you to Kurt and Kristen Ludlow.
Hello, folks.
How are you?
Great.
How are you doing?
Very good.
We have limited time.
I don't want you to feel rushed, but I'd like you to tell us quickly about Coriolis versicolor mushrooms and this breakthrough that seemingly not a whole lot of people have been informed about or know about, but we're here to change that.
So help us out.
What do you know?
Absolutely.
Well, let me give you some background real quick on it and how we got our hands on it.
First and foremost, one of our partners here at the company, his mother was dealing with a very severe issue that affected her lung.
She was attending Sloan Kettering.
That issue ended up getting worse.
They tried everything medically they could to resolve it.
Nothing worked.
And so they gave her two months to live.
He started reaching out to friends and family regarding her circumstances.
And her cousin or her nephew out in Japan reached back and said, look, I have something.
It's just in a capsule form.
It's a mushroom.
We have a proprietary way we extract it.
You know, he was talking to her son, his cousin, and said, why don't you have your mom try it and just see if this might help her out in any way?
And so she started taking it.
And after 30 days, she noticed quite a considerable difference in the way she's feeling.
Month two went by, more improvement month three.
She's feeling as if there's no issues whatsoever.
And she goes back to Sloan Kettering.
Sure enough, they run lab work on her and find that condition to no longer be there.
And so they were flavric acid.
They wanted to know what she was doing.
And of course, she was able to reach out to her nephew and bring all the information that they requested to them.
And that's where the first clinical study started here in the United States.
And from there, M.D. Anderson started studying it, the American Cancer Society, Loma Linda, Harvard.
It's been published in the Library of Medicine many times.
And today there's hundreds of studies on this mushroom.
And what they've concluded was that it didn't cure it, didn't mitigate it, it didn't prevent anything, but specifically it would modulate the immune system and get it working optimally again.
And if we can get our immune system working optimally again, I think you can agree that it's the best way to resolve any type of issue that we might be dealing with because that's what it's designed to do.
And so for years, you know, if that happened to your mother, our partner Simon could not keep from telling anyone that would listen to him about it.
And he started getting all types of reports back from different people with all kinds of different things that they were dealing with, that they were noticing some great results with it.
And it wasn't just for sick, you know, people.
It was for people that didn't want to get sick, that wanted to be proactive versus reactive.
And, you know, many great things that people were saying with renewed energy, feeling younger, sleeping better, things like that.
And so eight years ago, what ended up happening is one of our partners, aside from Simon, Steve, he lost a dog due to cancer.
Within two months, Gino, our other partner, also lost a dog due to cancer and two of their children.
And so they were sitting around looking into it.
And the dogs are all between the ages of four and eight.
They were young and they weren't happy about it.
And here they had this mushroom that they'd been getting out to people for years as well as us.
And they thought to themselves, wow, I wonder if this is safer animals.
And sure enough, they found a study done by the University of Pennsylvania declaring that dogs that were taking this product were living three times as long as the dogs that weren't that had a very aggressive form of cancer.
And so at that point, that's where Pet Club 24-7 was born because they knew that they had an incredible strain.
And here's what they found out, Richard, is 65% of our pets are getting cancer today.
One in three allergies, 6 million new cases of diabetes are going on.
They're medicating them with human medications.
And our pets are living half as long as they used to.
In the 70s, the average age of a golden retriever was 17.
Today, that average age is 9.
And they wanted to do something about it.
So they added this mushroom into incredibly well-put-together products with no bad ingredients because what they found and why these conditions were happening was it came down to like our humans.
You know, it's the foods, treats, and toys they're eating.
The regulations are very loose and it's causing all types of issues as a result of that, on top of all the other things that are going on.
And that's where the company was born, and that's where we are today.
That's a beautiful story.
I think that there are so many people that are looking for something that's not from the mainstream, not from big pharma or whatever the case may be.
I mean, we all have these stories, right, about grandma's old home remedies.
And I'll tell you what, I'm super interested in this because I have a dog.
His name is Gus.
He's a Berna doodle.
He's five or six years old.
He was supposed to be a mini.
He's now a 108-pound lap dog.
And he does struggle with some hip issues only at five or six years old.
And he also has these subdermal, almost acne-like bumps on his skin along his back and his side.
And so as you're explaining all this, I'm thinking about Gus.
I'm thinking, man, we need to get him these mushrooms.
I also think about veterans, right, who have service animals and they get super attached.
And I know a few that have been through two and are on their third dog now.
And it's a real struggle for some of these guys because the training's long.
They get super attached.
They take these pets everywhere.
And so this type of product, the mushroom, I think would be perfect for the veteran community as well.
Do you guys see veterans or law enforcement or anything like that?
Do people use them for these pets as well on top of some other supplements or anything else that might be out there on the market?
Absolutely, because regardless of what our pets are going through or even what they might potentially have to go through, their immune system is always going to be their first, their best bet, right?
It's intelligently designed to handle everything in the body, repair, recover, rebuild, regulate, renew, rebalance everything that's happening inside of the body.
So especially therapeutic dogs or dogs that are trained to do jobs where they have to focus and they have to have stamina and endurance.
And we have spent a lot of time and resources training them.
It's very important that we're not only keeping them with us longer, but that they actually have a good quality of life during those years.
And so that's why we say every pet, every person every day should be getting this Coriolis versicolor mushroom into their system.
We've been so blessed.
God has given us a really pure and potent strain of this mushroom, and we've perfected the extraction process.
So that's why we're seeing such positive results relatively quickly from anything that you can think of with dogs, cats, horses, even people.
It's just been absolutely amazing.
And we just want to be good stewards with what we've been given and take good care of it and be a part of restoring creation.
So especially in those conditions, we encourage you to get your pet on the Coriolis versus Color mushroom.
Or if you're a veteran yourself and maybe you've been through some trauma and your body's been through a lot mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, let's get this mushroom into your system so that you can get that support that you need to really be able to recover from the inside out.
Well, and it makes a lot of sense to me, right?
I mean, let's get our immune systems working as our creator intended it to, instead of feeding it all this other junk and who, God knows what they give us in pill form and our food and all that other stuff these days.
So this is actually a very refreshing conversation that we're having because it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of things out there that are holistic and are natural to help us feel better.
Explain to us, we got a couple minutes left.
Why Pet Club 24-7?
Why is it put out as a club?
I think that this is an important thing to touch on.
Yeah, it was really important to us.
We feel very called to do what we're doing, and we know that we're able to offer the world a gift.
And so we never really wanted to build a company.
We want to build a community.
That's the idea behind it is that if we stand up together and lock arms, change the way that we're doing things so that we can get different results and educate each other, make each other aware, connect each other with better solutions and better options that are going to give us better results and that are a lot more affordable in many cases.
You know, we believe that this community can truly change the way that pets and people are being treated just by being a voice for those that don't have one.
So that's why the name of the company is Pet Club 24-7 is because we want to be a community of people that are solution-oriented, that do something about it, that don't wait for other people to fix our problems or solve what's going on, that we just stand up, control what we can control, and contribute how we can contribute through this community.
That's beautiful.
See, folks, here at the Stu Peters Network, we're here to help you feel better.
We're so thankful that you guys are here, Pet Club 24-7.
Kurt and Christine, we're very happy to have you.
Thank you for everything that you've done, bringing this stuff out to people.
Let's get healthy again.
What was the movement that you talked about, Kurt?
I said, you know, we have the Maha movement.
Yes.
We also have it here for our animals, make animals healthy again.
Absolutely.
We're applying to do so, just like on the human side.
And people can count on the fact that there's no bad ingredients in our products.
Everything made in human, great whole food commercial kitchens, all sourced from the U.S. and made right here in the U.S. Very important.
Well, Kurt, Kristen, thank you very much for being here.
Folks, Pet Club 24-7, make sure you get there, get your supplies of mushrooms, not just for you, but for your pets, dog cats, horses, all those things.
Pet Club 24-7, guys, thank you very much for being here.
let's connect soon.
I'm going to get my supply and I'm going to report back for me and Gus to make sure that we do this full circle conversation.
Uh, I'm super excited to talk to you guys again.
We'll see you very soon.
Thank you.
Thank you, Richard.
All right, bye-bye.
There's nothing we wouldn't do for our pets.
They're like our children.
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