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July 18, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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EXCLUSIVE: Former Prison Roommate Gives Insight Into the Mind of Ghislaine Maxwell

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	So with the broad daylight, completely obvious Jeffrey Epstein cover-up dominating headlines and online discourse, and let's just be honest, the American people finally waking up to the fact that their occupied government is indeed run by a bunch of compromised perverts and pedophiles who are now just publicly letting themselves off the hook.
	Suddenly there's this shift in attention and there's a bunch of renewed conversation surrounding Ghelane Maxwell and her fate.
	Now, as you all know, Ghelane Maxwell was convicted in the Southern District of New York.
	Ironically, probably not coincidentally, the same district that acquitted Diddy and managed to have Epstein die in its custody.
	But anyway, that Maxwell trial in and of itself was a cover-up.
	That case is still protected by gag orders.
	And despite her convictions, none of Maxwell's clients, none of Epstein's clients for that matter, were ever made public throughout those court proceedings.
	So it's like Ghelaine Maxwell was convicted of sex trafficking young girls to no one, which ironically is President Trump's message.
	That's the narrative.
	It's the official position of the United States government relating to Jeffrey Epstein.
	They say that he had no clients, he worked for nobody, there was no blackmail, and that the entire well-vetted story that's been researched for more than a decade now, it was all a hoax.
	Stop asking about it or you're a weakling and I don't want your support.
	So now people are starting to focus on Maxwell.
	Some people, like Trump World Jewish lawyer Alan Dershowitz, says she should receive a pardon.
	And there's a lot of speculation online right now about that actually happening.
	Could Trump really pardon Ghelane Maxwell and expect no blowback?
	Does he care?
	Could he really pardon Maxwell, or for that matter, just keep Maxwell in prison and expect her to never tell the truth about what happened?
	I don't know.
	Maybe he could.
	Maybe Maxwell knows her mission.
	Maybe she's going to carry it out to the end.
	But nobody can count on that.
	So of course, that fact has a lot of people wondering whether or not Ghelane Maxwell might try to kill herself with a paper sheet in federal custody with no cameras working and guards sleeping.
	We've heard very little about Maxwell's time in prison.
	She's currently housed in the Federal Correctional Institute in Tallahassee, Florida, which is a low-security women's facility that once housed January 6th political prisoners of war.
	One of those January 6th prisoners is Jessica Watson.
	She's with us here tonight.
	She has been speaking out online.
	She says that she's getting ahead of the narrative.
	She's letting the public know that the Ghelane Maxwell that she lived alongside is not suicidal.
	Jessica wrote in an ex post, quote, just putting this out there, I knew Ghelane Maxwell personally when I was in prison with her.
	She isn't suicidal in the least.
	There are also virtually no working cameras in FCI Tallahassee.
	Just getting ahead of potential narratives, end quote.
	No working cameras.
	Here we go again.
	How about that?
	Where else have we heard that before?
	Maybe in New York City where we were housing Jeffrey Epstein?
	So what does that tell us?
	Well, probably all of the ducks are in a row.
	They're ready for the moment that the Trump DOJ or Benjamin Netanyahu or whoever the f ⁇ is calling the shots here makes that call and tells the suicide squad to go waltzing into FCI Tallahassee because they have a job to do.
	It seems to be the precedent in this case.
	Why would anything change now?
	Unless, of course, instead of killing her, they decide to release Ghelane Maxwell from prison, tell the American people that she killed herself, and then reunite her with Jeffrey Epstein on some Israeli-owned island somewhere.
	But those are, in all likelihood, the most plausible possible outcomes.
	Unless, like I mentioned earlier, the Trump administration and the rest of the United States government are just so past the point of caring if everyone on earth knows that they're a bunch of pedophiles that they just let Maxwell out of jail and issue her a pardon.
	Also, a distinct possibility.
	The truth is, once they get you into federal custody, they can pretty much do whatever they want to you.
	The rest of the country will be none the wiser, totally in the dark, except for the handful of people who are in federal custody alongside of you.
	And that's what we're going to talk about today, because in federal prison alongside Ghelaine Maxwell, until just recently, there were January 6th prisoners like Jessica Watson.
	Jessica has written a book about her experience in federal custody, including her experiences alongside Ghelane Maxwell.
	And what makes this book the most impressive, at least to us here, is the fact that she wrote it from a federal prison computer.
	She was using an email system that charged five cents per minute and limited inmates to 15-minute computer sessions before kicking them offline.
	So we're going to hear about Jessica's experiences alongside Ghelaine Maxwell in just a few moments.
	But first, I want to mention what might be one of the most insightful and thought-provoking passages in all of this book.
	It appears on the very first page.
	Jessica wrote that, quote, my greatest fear is that my intense patriotism is mere nostalgia, a period of mourning for a nation long deceased.
	End quote.
	Yeah, that's the fear of millions of people, including millions of people who have stifled that fear within their own minds, within their own hearts, while telling themselves, if I just merely trust the plan, everything will be okay and America will be restored to its former glory.
	And that's a tragedy because it's just not true.
	We can never go back to the way that things were when we all lived in a blissful ignorance of how bad things really are.
	The modern form of American patriotism is all about recapturing the high watermark feelings of the 20th century and before.
	Feelings that surfaced in retrospect around events that would ultimately destroy this country, like winning World War II.
	Just take a look at your average history channel TV programming.
	It's like a eulogy for America.
	Hollywoodized versions of events like the Old West or on the battlefields of Europe and the Pacific where Young white Christian American men risked and gave their lives for a country that all the while was being stolen right out from underneath them.
	This country has always had a subversive fifth column lurking in the background.
	Our political system doesn't just allow for it, it actually encourages it.
	And that needs to be exposed and rooted out.
	And that's exactly what January 6th Patriots thought that they were doing on January 6th, 2021 as we battled against a rigged election.
	And it's exactly what millions of people across this country are going to have to do each and every day, in each and every way possible.
	We have to fight for our national survival and for an American future even more glorious than our past.
	It's time for reclamation.
	There's a lot of work to be done, though.
	And a big part of that is exposing the pedophiles that are running this government.
	So for more discussion on all of this, we're now joined by this January 6th political prisoner turned author, Jessica Watson.
	Thank you so much for coming.
	We appreciate you being here.
	Thank you, Stu.
	I appreciate it, sir.
	Yeah, of course.
	So you are basically right on the money for most of your intro.
	I think the Trump administration is firewalled from what's going on in the DOJ, just from my legal experience.
	You know, everything that happens in court is often under seal.
	So I think a lot of what he's doing is reacting to the news.
	I still am very much a very staunch President Trump supporter.
	However, I'm very disappointed with these things that have come out of the DOJ.
	You know, they come out with this binder of things and it's like a barcode.
	There's so much stuff redacted.
	And then the list is on my desk.
	And then what desk?
	I don't even have a desk.
	You know, it's kind of astonishing to me.
	And yeah, that is my greatest fear.
	It's just nostalgia.
	It's just I'm remembering the way it was when I was growing up.
	You know, I'm a child of the 80s and 90s.
	I remembered like the wall coming down, you know, the iron curtain and all that.
	I think back to like the NASA programs with the space shuttle and all that.
	You know, I think back to my childhood and I remembered America so fondly.
	Everybody was coming together.
	Even after 9-11, you know, the country came together.
	I was in the Army at the time when that happened.
	And I'm very concerned that my country is slipping and we're not getting it back.
	And yeah, I think there's a lot of pedophiles.
	You look at like the Clintons and all of that.
	You know, there's so much going on.
	You got members of Congress or in the Senate having, you know, gay orgies on the floor.
	I mean, it's just disgusting.
	I can't believe where our country has gone in such a short time.
	Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.
	How long were you in federal custody specifically with Colleen Maxwell?
	I transferred there, I believe, September 23rd of 2023, and I stayed there until the day President Trump set me free, which was January 21st.
	So it's about a year and five months.
	And you were there with Colleen Maxwell the entire time?
	What was your level of interaction that you had with her?
	Well, she was in my dorm.
	She lived a couple months down from me.
	She caught me off guard when I saw her.
	I walked by and I just happened to catch her out of a glance and I recognized her face right away.
	And I was like, is that who I think it is?
	And the girl that was with me, she's like, I don't know, who is it?
	So I had to catch her up.
	And yeah, it was her.
	And so I avoided her like the plague for like the first couple months.
	But I ended up getting a job in the education department and she worked right next to me.
	So eventually we ended up starting talking.
	So I didn't end up getting to know her.
	So what did you talk about?
	I mean, did you guys specifically discuss Jeffrey Epstein by any chance?
	So inmates are very protective of each other's cases.
	So like you don't ask another inmate about their case because then they'll think you're a snitch or a fed or whatever.
	So we didn't really bring it up.
	She did discuss it a couple times, but it was very vague and brief in passing.
	So like she did say, you know, like she tells everyone that she's innocent.
	I don't know that I believe that.
	A lot of inmates will tell you, oh yeah, I'm innocent, whatever.
	She said, you know, there was a lot of malfeasance, you know, DOJ, because she's seen what was happening with the January 6th people.
	And she's like, yeah, I understand because they did it to me too.
	And then she was like, they had no interest in me until after Jeffrey.
	And then she kind of paused for a second.
	She's like, until after Jeffrey died.
	And I was like, okay.
	But that was really about it as far as her case went because everyone's pretty tight-lipped about their stuff in prison, you know.
	Yeah.
	Did she say that she thought that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered?
	She didn't.
	She just, she paused.
	She said, until Jeffrey died.
	Like, she kind of just left that up in the air.
	I mean, you can take what you want from it.
	But I think she was kind of trying to say very quietly she doesn't believe the narrative either.
	Well, I mean, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that suggests that Maxwell and Epstein procured underage children to perform sexual acts with high-ranking government officials as part of a foreign-led operation, of course, to capture or blackmail those officials to sway foreign policy decisions made by the government.
	Did she offer any information about the child sex trafficking operation that she was involved with?
	I mean, did she say anything about that?
	Nothing at all.
	No, she was very tight-lipped about her case.
	So what did you learn about Ghelane Maxwell in your time there with her other than the fact that you don't believe that she's suicidal?
	Yeah, she, I really just got to know her as a person because I worked with her.
	She's very nice, which was very unnerving.
	She made me very nervous.
	I was very uncomfortable around her, but she's very nice.
	I have to say she's a good advocate for her fellow inmates if they are having medical problems or helping them with their legal stuff.
	She stayed to herself.
	She oftentimes kind of tended to gravitate towards me, I think, but there wasn't a whole lot of people who were sober in our prison.
	So there was like a big meth problem.
	There's K2, there's Suboxone.
	So there's like a lot of drugs in our prison, and a lot of those people are, you know, crazy.
	I'm very intelligent, so she gravitates towards intelligent people.
	So it was just, It was always awkward.
	I'd see her walking towards me, and she usually just wanted to, you know, like, you know, chew the fat or whatever and talk about the jail conditions or what's going on.
	But like, every time she'd do it, like, I'd just kind of tense up and get, you know, nervous because I mean, what she did, I she says she's innocent, but like, I've seen the well, I mean, she was convicted.
	I don't believe her.
	Obviously, it doesn't necessarily mean that she's innocent or guilty one way or the other because, you know, our DOJ, our government, its law enforcement apparatus, specifically at the federal level, is so completely corrupt and blackmailed.
	And that's the subject of our conversation that we have here.
	I mean, almost daily.
	But I mean, she is a convicted, you know, sex, child sex trafficker.
	And you said that she was really nice.
	You said that she's not suicidal.
	What makes you believe that she's not suicidal?
	And why did you feel it was important to tell that to the public on your ex-post?
	She's very at ease.
	She's very calm.
	She carries herself very, I don't know how to describe it.
	She's very, she's at ease.
	She's like comfortable.
	She doesn't act strange.
	She doesn't.
	I mean, nobody in that prison would tell you that she's suicidal.
	Like, that's not a thing.
	But I, this is me, a lot of people feel that Jeffrey Epstein was...
	I don't think he killed himself.
	And so this news that was coming out.
	Yeah, well, that's another possibility.
	Like, they shut the cameras off.
	Oh, yeah, he killed himself.
	Like, I haven't seen autopsies reports.
	Not that I believed them anyway.
	But I genuinely feel that with her trying to come forward and saying she wants to testify, that she's putting her life at risk.
	And I don't think it's this administration that would do anything to her.
	Did you learn that she wanted to testify while you were in prison?
	Or did you just learn that when you were released and you saw this on television, the recent news of her saying that she wanted to testify?
	It was just what I had seen on X. I had just seen a thing that said she wanted to come out and she wanted to testify before Congress.
	And I was like, well, I might as well put this out here now saying how I knew her personally before they try to pull a fast one.
	I mean, the Clintons know how many people who killed themselves, like 48 or something, some huge number.
	So I wanted to put that out there and get it on the record now.
	So that way if anything were to happen, like it raises some eyebrows, you know.
	Yeah, the Clintons I know are capable of murder.
	There's no question about that.
	And just because they're out of politics doesn't mean that they're going to stop killing.
	Obviously, there's a lot of bodies on their hands, so they need to kill.
	But I do believe that there are people in our current government, specifically even in the White House at the executive level, that probably have an interest in Ghelain Maxwell as well.
	Why did you go to January 6th?
	What were your personal motivations for being there?
	So I was doing security for businesses during the Black Lives Matter riots.
	That's how I got tied in with the Oath Keepers.
	Then after the Stop the Steel rally started happening, Antifa was coming to those, and they were attacking little old ladies and pepper spraying children and things.
	So I wanted to protect people at the Trump rallies from these Antifa people.
	And then after the January 6th rally was announced, I didn't plan on going for a long time.
	But then around New Year's, I was on a security detail to protect Roger Stone.
	That got shifted to a congressional detail.
	So the oath keepers came to January 6th to escort VIPs and congressmen from the ellipse to the Capitol building.
	We had a permit for Area 8 on the Capitol grounds.
	We had a stage.
	We had done background checks with Secret Service.
	And so we were there to protect our protectees from these attacks and then to escort people back to their cars and their hotels when the rally finished.
	And so I came as a medic to serve on that security detail because I had been in the fire department as an EMT for a while.
	So that's why I came and it all played out as we saw it play out.
	So you were there protecting certain people.
	Did you ever reveal, by the way, who it was that you were protecting?
	I don't have that information, but I mean, it came out during the course of our trial.
	They were like VIP podcasters and such.
	We were there to escort congressmen from the White House ellipse down to the Capitol building, but there was a big snafu about gear and things.
	So they ended up taking vehicles instead of marching with the crowd like they had intended to.
	Who hired you to escort congresspeople?
	It was all through the event organizers.
	I know Ali Alexander was the one running the thing.
	So we were there at his behest.
	During your sentencing, you apologized for your actions at the Capitol on January 6th.
	What specifically were you apologizing for?
	Well, I do regret going inside.
	I think that was not a good idea.
	While inside, Kelly Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, and a number of other oath keepers rescued Officer Harry Dunn.
	That was a good thing to do.
	I stopped vandalism.
	That was also a good thing.
	But I think ultimately, being that we were with this group and we had this equipment and such, it really was weaponized against conservatives and against the GOP that this right-wing extremism is coming to town to overthrow democracy.
	And they kept referring to the oath keepers and the proud boys as if we were some one big group, which we're not.
	We weren't coordinating or anything.
	But I think going inside helped them with that narrative because, see, they went inside to obstruct the peaceful transfer of power.
	Whereas if we had just stayed outside and helped the injured, they would have had a lot harder time.
	So I'm very sorry for going inside.
	I do apologize for that.
	And then there was an eight-minute period where there was protesting in a hallway and the cops were trying to come through and they couldn't get through.
	And they had to pepper spray everyone.
	So did you storm your way into the Capitol or were you ushered in there and led in there by people cosplaying as police officers wearing badges?
	No, I didn't see any police except for a little line out on the grass that were just kind of standing there looking bored.
	There was no police.
	We walked up the stairs.
	We sang the national anthem.
	And then we walked up to the top of the stairs and people were walking in.
	And I just, we, and everybody kind of grabbed us and pushed us forward to the front.
	They're like, yeah, oath keepers are here.
	Yeah, Patriots.
	And they shoved us kind of the front and we kind of just got vomited in.
	And it was exciting.
	So I kind of just got swept up in it.
	You know, I lost kind of objectivity and kind of just became a protester.
	Yeah, forgive me.
	I'm not trying to harp on this, but.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	I can't help but think about this apology.
	And what you're describing to me is that you're in the people's house singing the national anthem.
	I'm still confused.
	Did you become violent?
	Did you destroy property?
	Were you destructive?
	Did you vandalize the people's house?
	I mean, why did you apologize?
	Stop vandalism.
	I apologize because going inside was a mistake.
	It was a big mistake.
	I mean, you look at everything.
	If nobody had gone inside the Capitol building on January 6th, I don't think they would have gotten that same reaction.
	And it was a lot of people like me that I can admit my mistakes.
	It was not good to go in there, especially after watching, you know, like the footage of how the doors got opened and all that.
	There were police officers that got hurt and stuff.
	Did you know that at the time, how the doors were opened?
	No, they just kind of opened up and everybody just kind of went in.
	Did you know at the time that those police officers had killed four unarmed Americans?
	I didn't.
	Ashley Babbitt didn't get killed until I had gone in.
	So I was inside when she was shot.
	And then I didn't hear about the other three until the days later.
	At the time, it just felt like a peaceful protest.
	It just felt amazing.
	It was very patriotic.
	You know, we go inside the rotunda and everybody's singing glory, glory, hallelujah.
	And they're hugging each other.
	And I'm looking at these paintings that I've seen in history books and documentaries for years.
	And it just was so, so it's such a glorious moment.
	And I don't know.
	It's hard for me to recognize.
	Who encouraged you to go inside?
	What originally inspired you to go inside the building?
	I mean, I didn't even think we were doing that.
	We walked to the top of the stairs and then the doors were open and everybody was like, yeah, the oath keepers are here.
	And they kind of just pushed us to the front.
	And I felt like a rock star.
	I felt like this glorious American moment where, and I believe the election was stolen.
	So it felt like we, the people, are standing up today.
	You know, you're going to hear us.
	And you said that you were, and this is a quote that came, I believe, from your sentencing.
	You said that you were, quote, one of the idiots running around the Capitol.
	Do you think that everybody that was there was an idiot?
	Was that a collective standpoint?
	No, I wouldn't say everyone.
	Certainly not.
	I mean, a lot of them were just like grandmothers and things.
	I did lose objectivity.
	We were chanting, you know, F. McConnell and a bunch of things like that.
	If I had stuck to my job.
	You wouldn't say F. McConnell today?
	I certainly do.
	I do.
	I do say that.
	But I wasn't there to do that.
	I came to be a medic.
	I came there to protect people from Antifa and I lost sight of what I came to do and just became another protester walking around smoking weed and stuff, right?
	Like that's not what I came there to do.
	And so it was just like this moment where you just kind of get swept up in things and I lost objectivity.
	And yeah.
	What do you think about the likelihood that President Trump will pardon Glene Maxwell and let her out?
	Do you think she's hopeful for that?
	Did she mention anything about that?
	I'm not worried I'm going to get a pardon.
	No, I don't.
	I've never heard anything like that.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	I mean, just because she's nice doesn't mean her crime isn't atrociously evil.
	No, I hope she does not get a pardon.
	I don't mean anything against her.
	It's not her personally.
	I'm sorry, anybody who does that crime, you don't get a pardon.
	I mean, frankly, you shouldn't ever get out.
	She has an out date.
	She could be released eventually, like, naturally.
	So I think it would be a massive mistake if President Trump was to pardon her.
	Especially because there's 12 January 6th defendants, myself included, who are still awaiting our pardons.
	I didn't do anything violent.
	People that were known Antifa, you talked about John Sullivan or, you know, all these people, they got pardons despite being violent.
	And we didn't do anything violent.
	In fact, my co-defendants rescued people.
	I was stopping vandalism and helping hurt people.
	We're waiting for our pardons still.
	If she got one, that would take that as a super slap in the face.
	And then I think America would be completely outraged and rightfully so.
	I mean, that would just be an extra cover-up.
	If she was still in custody, or if she was released, excuse me, if she was pardoned, what motivation would she have to even testify at that point?
	Because she's free and clear.
	She can just dust her hands and walk away.
	You know, America needs answers on this.
	I'm not buying that there's not a list.
	I don't.
	Why would they release these binders?
	Part one.
	Where's part two?
	There is no part two.
	What desk?
	I don't even have a desk.
	So just a few minutes ago, you said that you're still an avid Trump supporter.
	But now you're saying that you believe that there's a list and President Trump, this person that you support, is saying, no, there's not a list.
	So how do you support a liar who it appears is implicated in a child sex trafficking operation in one way or another?
	I don't actually believe he is.
	Like I said, I think everything is firewalled at the DOJ and it's under seal with the judges.
	So I don't actually think even Trump has access, legal access to look at those things as long as it is an ongoing case.
	She's in appeals going to the Supreme Court.
	He's the president of the United States, if he says release the files and redacted in their entirety, that has to be done.
	He is the president of the United States.
	The buck stops with Donald Trump.
	But this separation of powers, I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but this is my understanding is that.
	But now he's saying to everybody: if you believe this Jeffrey Epstein nonsense, I don't want your support anymore.
	This whole thing was a hoax.
	Jeffrey Epstein did nothing wrong.
	There was no sex trafficking.
	There were no clients.
	He wasn't working for anybody else.
	And he just killed himself in federal custody all by himself with a paper bed sheet when the cameras went out.
	I digress.
	You said that the cameras don't work at this Tallahassee facility either, do you?
	Didn't you say that?
	Yeah, so there's very few working cameras.
	It's very concerning.
	There's a couple out on the compound on the wreckyard.
	You know, there's some on the wire, but like people do meth and stuff right in front of the cameras and nothing ever happens.
	The security surveillance in that facility is abysmal.
	So what other types of things were happening in that facility that shocked you or surprised you?
	Tell us about the living conditions.
	Terrible.
	You're talking about leaking roofs.
	You're talking about food that the inspector general ruled was inedible, not for human consumption, filled with rat feces, bugs, mold, expired.
	They'd give us expired milks that were like swollen because they'd bloated.
	And I mean, it's crazy.
	And then the medical neglect is astonishing.
	I got an infection on my ankle that was swollen up so bad I couldn't get a sock over it.
	And it took, you know, days to get that treated.
	My friend, Miss Virginia, a sweet little old lady that like in a wheelchair, her face was like slumping and she was clearly having a stroke.
	She couldn't talk.
	One of her eyes wouldn't blink.
	She went to medical to get treated and they're like, oh, just get some milk of magnesion commissary and come back and see us next week.
	Came back, still having a stroke.
	They had to send her out to the hospital.
	The medical neglect in that facility is incredible.
	Like, I would go so far as to say, like, third world unconstitutional.
	It's bad.
	A lot of people.
	So people were doing drugs.
	People were being abused.
	Were people having sex in there?
	Oh, yeah, like crazy.
	There's very much a lot of that going on.
	Girls walking around, holding hands, making out orgies on the record.
	I mean, you wouldn't believe the things that go on openly, like in front of supposed cameras.
	I mean, girls literally smoking meth on camera or doing K2, like in the open, like flagrantly, and nothing happens.
	I couldn't believe it.
	I couldn't believe this is like this.
	Violence, girls would stick like a padlock in a sock and they'd hit them while they're sleeping, things like that.
	People were having more.
	So excuse me, are you a transgender?
	Are you a birthborn male?
	I am transgender, yes.
	How did they let you into a female prison facility?
	So I've had surgeries and things, so they had to confirm that.
	We pushed for it because I was very uncomfortable.
	The Biden regime did try to send me to a male facility initially.
	But then after they confirmed everything, they drew blood work and they did visual inspections and things.
	And that's when they re-designated me female.
	Nobody knew this.
	I mean, nobody reported on the fact that you were a birthborn male and that you were in a women's federal lockup facility.
	Did you have sex with Ghelaine Maxwell?
	Oh, God, no.
	Ew.
	No, I'm not into women at all.
	Like, I have a husband and we're very happy.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know how crazy it is after everything that you've told me what was happening in that facility.
	Well, I mean, there was potential for things to go bad, but I mean, yeah.
	Are you calling me crazy for asking the question?
	No.
	No, sir.
	Okay.
	No, everything that happened in the facility is crazy.
	If you were let off the hook, which you were, correct?
	You received a pardon?
	I did not.
	My sentence was only commuted.
	The oath keepers and proud boys had our sentences commuted.
	So they just let you out?
	Could they bring me back?
	Yes.
	No.
	So after our release, my judge tried to keep me on a probation for three years.
	And then acting AUSA Ed Martin filed motions and said, no, the president commuted her sentence and the sentence of my code.
	And so we were released from that.
	Are you going to get a pardon?
	Have you been promised a pardon?
	Are you expecting a pardon?
	I'm still holding out for one, but we are in the appeals process.
	So there was a lot of malfeasance in our trial.
	They withheld evidence.
	They falsified testimony.
	They committed perjury.
	You shouldn't have to be hopeful for a pardon.
	It should be an automatic.
	Everybody that was there at that event should have a full pardon immediately.
	And Donald Trump promised that he was going to do that.
	I just, you called me crazy for asking a question or called the question crazy.
	First of all, I mean, I didn't chop my penis off.
	So a little respect.
	I don't think that I'm crazy.
	I think it's crazy to cut your penis off.
	I also think that it's crazy that you still support this man who is very obviously implicated in a child sex trafficking operation that has captured our government, which is now occupied, and that you still support a man who has not issued a pardon for political prisoners of war that were held on U.S. soil and had their entire lives destroyed.
	I think that's crazy, all due respect.
	That is fair.
	Well, if he was to be implicated, that would change my opinion entirely.
	So if there was to come out some kind of evidence and I was to see it.
	He said it was a hoax.
	He said that Jeffrey Epstein was a hoax and that he doesn't want the support of anybody who continues to ask about Jeffrey Epstein or demand the release of the dossier, of the files, of the flight logs of the Client list.
	That I haven't seen, but I would like to see that.
	It's all over the place.
	Yeah.
	He's on Truth Social, screaming and yelling and crashing out at everybody who's still asking about the largest known child sex trafficking operation ever.
	Pam Bondi, who is in charge of the DOJ, she was the attorney general of Florida, the Sunshine State, where Jeffrey Epstein was running a child sex trafficking operation for the entire time that she was the DOJ, or excuse me, the attorney general in Florida.
	Now she's the head of a DOJ.
	Donald Trump promised the release of the Epstein files.
	Pam Bondi said that she has seen the Epstein files and that they disgusted her, that they were on her desk, that they were ready to release.
	And now we're to believe, yeah, it was all just a hoax.
	And you still support that guy?
	Well, I'd have to go, I don't have a true social, but I have to go look that stuff up.
	It's virtually everywhere.
	I mean, you cannot go online.
	You cannot read a newspaper.
	You cannot turn on a TV without seeing the sound bites and hearing the clips of Donald Trump saying these things while Howard Lucknick stands over his shoulder, who's the guy who gave Israeli loyalty tests to everybody in his cabinet, including Cash Patel and Dan Von Gino, who said that they were most passionate about serving Israel.
	Dan Von Gino, when he was asked, the deputy director of the FBI, he was asked, what are you most passionate about?
	Not stopping child sex trafficking, not reinstituting the rule of law in our country.
	He said what he was most passionate about was protecting Israel.
	It's my opinion that that's exactly what the entire government is doing right now by calling Jeffrey Epstein and the entire saga a hoax.
	And they're kind of laughing about it.
	Children were raped.
	Children were murdered.
	Children were sacrificed.
	And the guy that you claim to support is preventing the release of the information that the American public and really around the world are demanding.
	So I would say that that's crazy.
	I don't know anything about Israel stuff.
	You have to forgive me.
	am not very politically engaged I see things occasionally trickle through my feed on X but after January 6th and after my release I have um Well, at the very beginning of the interview, you said that you were an intelligent person, which is why Ghelene Maxwell was attracted to you or why she gravitated toward you.
	It doesn't take much.
	It doesn't take a really intelligent person to understand that we are an occupied country.
	So yeah, I would suggest taking a look at it.
	We're out of time.
	Appreciate you coming.
	Thank you very much.
	I appreciate it.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you.
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	The COVID-19 scandemic really did show us all the absolute most disgusting sides of humanity, didn't it?
	It showed us just how far these people are willing to go.
	They showed us, all of them, the cashier at your local Walmart, the pharmacist at Target, your town's cop, your city's mayor, all the way up to the president of the United States.
	They showed us just how far they're willing to go to gain and exercise complete and total control over you, over everything in your life, over the lives of your loved ones, over the lives of your children.
	They'll tell you that you have to wear a Sharia-style bacteria-ridden oxygen-inhibiting face muzzle.
	And if you don't want to wear it, they'll just call the cops and force you to wear it.
	They'll tell you to lock yourself and your family into the depths of your home and to shoot yourself and your kids up with a weapon of biological warfare if you ever want to leave your house again.
	We saw all of that and a whole lot more during this candemic.
	And we're still seeing the reverberations of all of that today.
	The world hasn't just gone back to normal.
	That's what we were promised, 15 days to flatten the curve.
	But we have seen both sides.
	We've seen just how bad things can get, but during all of this, we also saw people rise to the occasion.
	A lot of them were on this program.
	Courageous men, women, even children displaying the very best that humanity has to offer.
	We saw people stand up and fight back and say, we're not going to take this.
	You're not getting our kids.
	You're not getting our bodies.
	We're not giving up everything that we ever had, everything that our people have ever fought for in the name of COVID, whatever that is.
	So there were heroes of the scandemic, and one of them is Dr. Kirk Moore of Salt Lake City, Utah.
	You might remember him.
	During the scandemic, Dr. Moore made the decision, I'm going to support freedom.
	I'm going to fight for humanity.
	I'm going to fight for human life.
	He destroyed thousands of dollars worth of clot shot poison.
	He gave unjabbed patients vaccine passports so they could continue living their lives without signing their own death warrants.
	And most importantly, when children were mandated to get this jab, if their parents brought their kid to Dr. Moore, instead of shooting them up with a weapon of biological warfare, he would shoot a little saline into their arm with parental consent, of course, and he saved all of their lives.
	But of course, the federal government, they don't like it when you don't do what they tell you to do.
	Rat-faced genocidal psychopaths like Anthony Fauci, they don't like it when you don't follow orders.
	And once Dr. Moore was found out, he and a group of co-defendants were slapped with a slew of federal charges by the Biden DOJ, which could have put Dr. Moore in prison for 35 years, effectively a life sentence for a middle-aged man.
	And although he was charged under the Biden administration, his trial wasn't slated to start until this month.
	Well, at that time, supporters of Dr. Moore and medical freedom gathered outside the federal courthouse in Utah to rally in his support.
	His son, Michael, gave a brief speech, letting them all know just how much it meant to the Moore family that they were all there.
	He reminded everyone of just how important Dr. Moore's fight for freedom is.
	Take a look.
	Thank you, everyone.
	Coming out.
	Means a lot, and it means a lot to him.
	So thank you.
	I stand before you today, not just as a son, but as the voice of a man whose life has been dedicated to serving others.
	My father is a doctor.
	He is a veteran, and he is my hero.
	And today he stands on trial, not because he did something wrong, but because he did something right.
	My father didn't just take an oath as a doctor.
	He lived it.
	Every day, he fought to protect his patients, to heal the sick, to comfort the suffering, and to speak up when others stayed silent.
	When he saw something that would harm the people, he swore to protect.
	He acted.
	He didn't look the other way.
	He didn't stay quiet to protect himself.
	He stood up because that's what real heroes do.
	And now this same man, this same protector, healer, and patriot, is being threatened with 35 years in prison.
	Not because he hurt anyone, but because he refused to let others be hurt.
	Because he chose his conscience over comfort.
	That's not justice.
	That's punishment for doing the right thing.
	But I want you all to know this.
	No matter what happens in the courtroom, my father will never be a criminal.
	He will never be guilty in the eyes of the people who know him, love him, and have been saved by him.
	He is a man of honor, of integrity, and deep compassion.
	To the government, I say this.
	You can try to silence him, but you will never erase what he's done for his patients, for his country, and for his family.
	You cannot imprison a man's legacy.
	You cannot lock away the truth.
	To my father, Dad, I love you.
	I believe in you.
	I'm proud of you.
	And no matter what they say or what they do, you will always be my hero.
	Thank you.
	You're right, Michael Moore.
	Your dad is a hero.
	Dr. Kirk Moore saved a lot of lives, children's lives.
	And because of that, he was targeted by the United States government and its genocidal partners in Big Pharma for complete and total destruction.
	But guess what?
	They didn't succeed.
	Dr. Moore's trial was set to last up to 15 days, but after its first week, Attorney General Pam Bondi decided that she was dropping all the charges and that Dr. Moore was free to go.
	This is amazing news.
	Dr. Kirk Moore is an American hero, not a criminal.
	And no matter what we all think of Pam Bondi, we have to applaud this decision.
	And it goes without saying that we should also be applauding Dr. Kirk Moore and his family and all of his supporters.
	The book of Luke tells us that when you stand firm, you will win.
	And that's exactly what Dr. Moore did.
	He Stood firm and he won.
	He won a battle in this great war of good versus evil, life versus death.
	For more discussion on all of this, we're now joined by Dr. Moore.
	Sir, thank you so much for making the time for us.
	We appreciate you being here.
	Yeah, you can't play that video and then expect me to keep it together.
	Well, I mean, it was tough for me as well.
	My dad is my hero.
	You are millions of people's hero.
	Thank you.
	I just did it to do the right thing.
	Yeah, you did it to save lives.
	Take us through all of this.
	I mean, you've been through hell and back.
	Well, look, I don't know where you were in January or February of 2020.
	I was here in my office operating on patients, doing what I do, listening to what, you know, the, I don't listen to the mainstream media, but even the alternative media then, most of it was, hey, this is a really bad, you know, really bad thing, really bad illness, you know, be careful out there.
	And so I, you know, I kind of believed it all or, you know, most of it and shut my office down.
	Within about 36 hours or less, I had made a complete 180.
	And then a few days later, the Utah government shut us down too.
	So we were closed for a while.
	So all I had time to do was just sit and research and do everything.
	And I just realized that it was all fake.
	And, you know, and they were pushing this disease.
	And I think at the end of January, and this is all hindsight to some degree now, but at the end of January, there were a total of 44 cases worldwide with one death.
	And the World Health Organization had already called.
	They hadn't called their full-on public health emergency of international concern yet, but they had called for a public health emergency and were researching it and looking into it and sending all these scientists to China and Wuhan and all this other stuff.
	But by that time, I just knew it was fake.
	I started prescribing hydroxychloroquine to all my friends and family and patients that wanted it.
	And I got into fights with pharmacists telling me that I'm not qualified as a physician to write prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine.
	And, you know, so then it was just, it was a mess.
	Okay.
	The masks started and the social distancing, you know, the talk of vaccines.
	There were, you know, look, the three things that got me.
	One was there's no treatment.
	You can't treat anybody.
	You know, as a physician, I'm just sitting here going, that's just so not right.
	We have never, you never don't treat something.
	Whether you're treating it right or whether you're not treating it, you still want to intervene.
	You still want to do something.
	And, you know, we just, we just never did that before.
	I mean, the analogy that I use all the time and it's all over everywhere that I use is if I have a lady comes in with, you know, a nodule on her breast, either by mammogram or by palpable exam or something that's different, the last thing I'm going to do is tell her, hey, go home and let's just wait and see if it grows and gets bigger and erodes through your skin, and then we'll treat you.
	Okay.
	So, you know, we want to treat cancer at stage one, not at stage four.
	So why am I sending patients home to be, you know, basically come in and have an intensive care unit admission right off the bat, you know, hypoxic, struggling to breathe, fever, you know, chills, the whole, you know, the whole gamut of things.
	You just don't do that, you know?
	And so that's what it started.
	The second thing was, why is the whole world doing the exact same thing?
	When's the last time that the government of Finland agreed with the government of South Africa or, you know, somebody in South Korea agrees with what's happening in Argentina?
	It's just, that's unheard of.
	It's never happened.
	It's never going to happen.
	Well, I'm not saying it'll never happen again.
	They're going to probably, they certainly are going to try this again.
	But that had never happened before.
	And so that was just a huge red flag to me.
	And then the third one was, hey, nothing's going to get back to normal until we put a needle in everybody's arm.
	And that was just, to me, that I'm off the deep end at that point.
	I'm down every rabbit hole I can learn.
	And it was just, it was just one thing after another.
	COVID was invented for the vaccine, not the other way around.
	What was it that first led you to figure that out?
	What was it about the shots when you started researching these shots?
	Well, you know, one, all the animal studies that they had, there were four or five animal studies that were readily available.
	You can't find them now.
	Four or five animal studies that were out there readily available that all the animals died.
	You know, you can inject them and they either died from the injection or they died from re-exposure to the disease that you're trying to treat them against.
	So how is it that all of a sudden you're going to take something where you've treated 20 ferrets in some scientific experiment and all of them died?
	And all of a sudden, 8.3 billion people on this earth are in a condition or in this position to need it and want it and it's going to help them.
	That just doesn't make any sense to me.
	Backing up before the shots, what about the NIH protocol of remdesivir and ventilators and a Molotov cocktail essentially inside of the body of these people that was putting them to sleep and just killing them with their families being kept away from them?
	Right.
	Repurposing a drug that got taken off of an Ebola trial because it was killing more people than it was saving.
	54% of the people that took it in that African Ebola trial died.
	It was a Tony Fauci drug.
	Right.
	Right.
	And all he did was repurpose it.
	So they had these epic machines, basically AI dictating what the protocol was going to be, telling these doctors, this is what you're going to do.
	It's essentially turning every doctor into an AI robot.
	Right.
	And then the administration at the hospitals getting, you know, the COVID money, the 20% increase or the 20% surcharge when they treated people by that bonus.
	If you intubated them and put them in an intensive care unit, you get extra money.
	If they get diagnosed with COVID, if somebody comes in with a broken leg and they get diagnosed with COVID, then you get a bonus or an extra surcharge to the bill.
	It was all, again, it was all meant to get us down this road.
	Every step of the way from the fraudulent PCR test that was cycled at like 45 and above all of the false positives.
	And you're right.
	I mean, on the south side of Chicago, blacks were coming in with 19 gunshot wounds and they were being pronounced dead of COVID.
	In California, people were dying from a shark attack and they were, I mean, no matter how motorcycle accident didn't matter.
	You were dying from COVID-19.
	So it was the PCR test, the positive test, the admission to the hospital, the intensive care unit.
	The administration of remdesivir was a big one.
	That was like a 28% bonus on the entire hospital stay.
	In the state of Minnesota, here where I'm at, it was like $390-some odd thousand dollars for every patient that was pronounced dead after all of those variables came together as well.
	So 400 grand, these doctors were being paid.
	It was really murder for money.
	At the very beginning of this, there were a lot of doctors saying things like, we don't understand why the diaphragm is paralyzed.
	We don't understand why these people won't breathe.
	You saw Andrew Cuomo giving his daily updates.
	You saw President Trump asking for more ventilators.
	General Motors Company was going to start manufacturing these things.
	At what point did you say, yeah, hold on a second, the diaphragm is frozen because we're paralyzing it with this Remdesivir?
	Yeah, I can't give you an exact date, but I'll tell you that certainly by the end of March, well, I don't know that Remdesivir wasn't even available at that point.
	I don't know that, you know, I think Remdesivir came out sometime in April-ish.
	It was, anyway, I don't remember the exact timeframe, but by the time Remdesivir came out, I was already, you know, I already knew what this was and wasn't, you know, wasn't on board.
	What were your colleagues saying?
	Say that again.
	What were your colleagues saying?
	It's funny.
	My colleagues that are not plastic surgeons were, most of them were on board.
	Most of them were like, hey, you know, look, I got to listen to the CDC.
	They know what they're doing.
	They know what they're talking about.
	These guys are the quote-unquote experts.
	I think when you're a plastic surgeon, you're kind of outside the system and you're not paid on a salary.
	You're not dependent on somebody else telling you how to take care of your patients.
	We have a little bit more autonomy.
	I think you see that with people like Mary Tallie Bowden, who is outside of it as an ENT.
	And so if you're not a salaried employee and your income doesn't depend on what somebody else is going to tell you and what it is that you need to do, I think you can think a little bit more clearly.
	The flip side of that, though, is I don't know how these people sleep at night.
	You know, I really don't.
	I don't know how it is that they're giving people remdesivir when they know what the studies did.
	And just because somebody's telling you to do something doesn't mean that they're doing something right and that they're helping your patients.
	Yeah, now move on to the shots.
	How are people sleeping at night knowing that they were administering this weapon of biological warfare?
	It is a patented bioweapon.
	The pegylated lipid nanoparticle has a patent that's in all of these shots.
	It says, yep, this is a weapon of biowarfare.
	And the whole thing was a DOD operation from the very beginning.
	How do these people sleep at night?
	Very good question.
	I don't know.
	Do you think the people that took this shot are all basically just walking ticking time bombs?
	Yes.
	What's going to happen?
	Well, there's a study that just got published.
	I think it was a Peter McCalla Nicolsha study that said that the average life expectancy loss is 30 years.
	And that a 30-year-old now with two shots or more is not going to live or is not going to be expected to live past the age of 55.
	What's killing them?
	Neurologic disease.
	I think it's mainly a vascular issue.
	And whether it's clotting or, you know, or breakdown of the blood vessels or just an inflammatory process called vasculitis that is, you know, that that's just affecting different organs, affecting the nerves, affecting the brain, you know, affecting, you know, your heart, you know, you name it.
	It's, I think that's, again, I don't, I'm not a scientist.
	I haven't done a lot of research.
	What I read and what I understand is that it's mainly a vascular thing.
	And you know what?
	They knew that early.
	Okay.
	I was, you know, remember they were talking about, hey, don't use Advil or Motrin because it can make the symptoms worse.
	And mainly it's because it was affecting the blood vessels, you know, in the lungs.
	And so they were kind of making these, you know, kind of crazy claims that don't, you know, don't do this or don't do that.
	And, you know, but, you know, the lungs are a very vascular organ.
	They have to be because that's where the exchange of oxygen happens, you know, get rid of CO2, add oxygen.
	And so it has the most blood vessels of almost any, of any tissue in our body.
	And that's the one that was primarily affected.
	Looking at Pfizer's data, now this is coming directly from Pfizer.
	Again, I want everybody to understand this is coming directly from Pfizer.
	279% increase in miscarriages, 487% spike in breast cancer, 1,048% spike in the nervous system, 155% in birth defects, 350% increase in male infertility,
	369% increase in testicular cancer, 2,181% spike in hypertension, 664% in malignant neoplasms, 680% spike in multiple sclerosis, 551% for Guillain-Beret syndrome,
	468% pulmonary embolisms, 302% tachycardia, 452% migraines, 471% female infertility, 437% ovarian dysfunction, 269% myocardial infarction, 291% spike in Bell's palsy.
	This is Pfizer's own data.
	They knew all of this.
	They knew all of this going into it.
	And somehow, so did you.
	Are you a spiritual person?
	Did this come to you from God?
	How did you figure this out?
	Yeah, I didn't have those numbers, but I just had a little Nobody had these numbers until yesterday.
	Oh, is that right?
	Okay.
	I was going to ask you where he came from because the only numbers that I know that kind of looked at that were is the D-Med data that Teresa Long put out a couple of years ago.
	And then that got scrubbed.
	I don't know if you remember that, but they pulled it all back and then they reissued it after kind of, you know, figuring out how to, you know, how to massage the numbers and massage.
	You want to talk about heroes?
	There's another one, Lieutenant Colonel Dr. Teresa Long.
	I met her.
	She's just an absolutely fantastic person who said, if these pilots get these shots, we need to ground these pilots.
	Yeah.
	She was one of the first phone calls she made when it became public.
	She called me right away.
	And I've had a couple of really nice long conversations with her about this.
	So, Dr. Moore, what happens to you now?
	So you have these charges have been dropped.
	Is it just life is back to normal now or what?
	Well, as normal as possible.
	It's very busy.
	Obviously, I'm talking about this a lot.
	I just went and met with Attorney General Bondi.
	I met with her yesterday at noon and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Senator Mike Lee, who were, you know, real big push behind and were probably, you know, actually, you know, Attorney General Bondi says that it was MTG that, you know, and her push and her calls and letters and everything else that, you know, kind of like really pushed her to kind of look at this more closely and make the decision that she did.
	What am I doing now?
	I'm not going to shut up.
	These shots have got to be taken off the market.
	They've got to be stopped.
	You know, mRNA technology, you know, lipid nanoparticle technology is not safe for even animal use.
	And we're still injecting it into, you know, what the recommendation is, anybody but the non-healthy, you know, population or, you know, but the healthy population, anybody who's not healthy.
	And it's just, you know, it needs to be stopped.
	And one of the discussions that I had, I actually met with Jim Jordan yesterday and I told him the best and easiest way to make this happen is RFK to write a single sentence.
	The state of emergency is over.
	And what that'll do is the COVID shots will go away.
	They won't be protected by EUA anymore and the manufacturers will have to take them off the market.
	And he doesn't have to mention COVID.
	He doesn't have to mention mRNA.
	He doesn't have to mention vaccines.
	He doesn't have to mention anything.
	The state of emergency.
	What kind of an emergency are we in right now in our country?
	You know, all it does is just give our government more powers to do things, protects big karma, and it just, it needs to end.
	I don't have a lot of optimism when it comes to RFK, forgive me, because, I mean, this guy is now pushing MMR shots for this apparent measles outbreak that we have that's killing everybody.
	And he wants you to go take your kid to go get this shot that's directly tied to a spike in childhood autism over the last four decades.
	So not a lot of optimism.
	I don't have a lot of hope for what RFK is going to do.
	He seems to have been grabbed a hold of by the very same people that pushed this whole thing from the very beginning.
	What about people who didn't get the shot?
	Are they at risk?
	Well, it depends.
	I mean, I think Pierre Corey put out some information in an article a few months ago about shedding.
	I think that that's a true phenomenon.
	I mean, the answer is I don't know.
	I certainly think that we're better off and safer than the people that had two shots or more.
	And, you know, I mean, that's just going to be something that we'll have to see how things pan out.
	Yeah.
	You keep mentioning two shots, or this is the second time that you've done that.
	Why?
	What about the people who got one?
	Well, the study that I read and the study that was put out by Peter McCullough and Nick Hulsher, I believe, talked about the risk goes up after that second shot.
	I don't know that they had information necessarily after one shot, but they were saying that 29.6% reduction or 29.6 year reduction in life expectancy.
	The average life expectancy in men in 2019 or in humans or in Americans in the United States was 78.6 or something.
	So you take 29.6 off of that is the average life expectancy.
	And they just looked at it.
	The statistics that they had were just, you know, two or more shots were done.
	I didn't, you know, I got to dig into it more and find out people that just took one.
	And people that took one probably only took one because they had a complication from it.
	So I would expect that they are also taking time bombs.
	How did the DOJ get when that you were injecting children with saline?
	I think the first complaint came from an HR department from a company who a lady who was there working for them came back and she was so anti-vaccine that when she came back and presented a card there, well, look what I got.
	I decided to change my mind.
	And so here's my shot card.
	So they were, you know, a little skeptical, said, I wonder where this came from.
	And so then they called the Utah Health Department and started asking questions.
	The Utah Health Department referred it to the FBI.
	The FBI ran a sting operation on me and had a lady come in and get a COVID card without a shot.
	So that's kind of how that, you know, the sequence of events.
	Did you have parents asking you specifically coming to you saying, I heard that you will give my child a saline shot rather than this poisonous concoction?
	Yeah, that's how it started.
	The kids were looking at, we're looking at end of, you know, late spring, early summer.
	Kids were looking at going, you know, starting summer semester in college or, you know, looking at, you know, where they were going to go to school in the fall.
	Some of the schools were starting to kind of say, hey, we're going to have vaccine mandates for anybody over the age of 12.
	And colleges weren't going to let people go in.
	My daughter was going off to college.
	And so that was, that's kind of where it started.
	And so the parents were, you know, looking for, they were starting to come to me and asking me, hey, what are my options?
	And nobody was taking any waivers at that time.
	Not nobody, but the waivers were few and far between.
	They weren't honoring them.
	Many states had passed laws or changed their laws so that they weren't allowing anything other than maybe a religious exemption, but not personal and personal medical or vice versa, any one of the three.
	So that was 20, you know, summer of 2021.
	I got to go back in our archives and find our reporting on this because I know that the minute that we found out or got wind at this network, I don't even know if it was a network at that time.
	I think it was just a Stu Peters show.
	I know that we applauded you.
	And, you know, I don't know that you were alone.
	I think that there were some other people out here who were kind of doing the same thing, but I believe that it was your story where this guy in Salt Lake City, this guy in Utah, this guy is a hero.
	And, you know, he was caught, caught doing what?
	Caught saving lives, caught at the request of somebody shooting a harmless substance into their body.
	Why did you do that anyway?
	Why not just issue the card?
	Why did you have to give him a shot of saline?
	Well, it was actually brought up to me by one of the parents that was saying, hey, what happens when my 13-year-old kid goes in and all of his buddies go, hey, my arm hurts from a shot or, you know, I got my card.
	And then, you know, this 13-year-old who doesn't necessarily know any better, you know, might say, well, I just got a card.
	I didn't get a shot.
	And so then, you know, having to deal with, you know, the shaming or the questions from the administration, which then would generate, okay, well, where did you get it?
	And, you know, so then chasing me down and looking at it from that perspective.
	So that's what I started doing.
	If the parents came in with the child and the child was going to get a vaccine or get a shot, saline shot, then I would actually do the saline shot for the parents as well, just so that, you know, they don't see one getting a card and the other one not getting it.
	Did you even have any of these bioweapons in your office?
	No.
	No, they got delivered.
	And then at the time, my office manager just took them home.
	Got them out of the office.
	Did you guys study them at all?
	I sent some vials off to a fertility clinic here and they looked at them under a microscope.
	And then I believe I'd have to go back and look at this.
	And actually, Chris Anderson, who is one of my codefendants, the last one of my codependents that stuck with us, believes that we actually sent the first vials to Kevin McKiernan that he was able to study.
	Wow.
	Did a pardon come along with this dismissal of charges?
	Don't need one.
	So they can't try you again?
	There's no entity, no state, no local, no federal, nothing?
	No, so double jeopardy applies now.
	So they can't come back at me and accuse me of the same thing and try to retry me.
	I've talked to a number of people in the state, and I think it would be political suicide here in Utah for the state to come after me.
	What's next?
	Are you running around doing interviews?
	You got big shows coming up.
	Are you going to talk to?
	I mean, there's, I'm sure, a lot of litany of people that want to talk to you.
	Yeah, that's so Deanna's been talking to Tina.
	I've already tried scheduling it, and I've already kind of made mistakes and either double booked myself or missed an appointment or something somewhere here.
	So I have Tina helping me do it.
	What's next for me is I'm going to do anything and everything that I can to get these shots off the market and get them stopped.
	That's I just don't understand how they're still on the market.
	It is just so absolutely unbelievable.
	And when you walk into pharmacies, they are happy to ask you if you've had your most recent booster.
	When you go to these big box stores like Target and you're walking by their pharmacies, they're shouting at you.
	They're asking, did you know that we have free shots here?
	Did you get your free shot?
	And then they have these bivalent shots.
	You know, the flu shot combined with the COVID-19 shot.
	Nobody, I believe, and this is my opinion.
	I'm not a doctor.
	You can tell me if you agree.
	Nobody should get any shots.
	Nobody should be getting any of these shots at all whatsoever.
	No, no.
	There's nothing that you're going to get through an injection that's going to give you any immunity to anything that, you know, you're not going to be exposed to naturally and have much better immunity.
	So do you remember Joe Rogan when he got COVID?
	And then Sanjay Gupta came in and he interviewed him on his show.
	You know, we've been chasing, what do we do as physicians?
	We're chasing natural immunity.
	We are trying to mimic natural immunity, right?
	That's what our goal is, is to, whatever it is that we do, We're trying to mimic natural immunity.
	And that's what vaccines are supposed to do: trying to do the best you can to try to mimic natural immunity.
	So, why does somebody who's had the disease and got sick from it, okay, need a shot?
	And Sanjay Gupta on his show said, Oh, you'll do so much better if you got a shot.
	You know, Anthony Fauci was saying the same thing.
	Rochelle Walensky was saying the same thing.
	You know, look, you look back on what was happening and you look at the numbers, the VARES numbers that were reported alone.
	Okay.
	In January of 2021, they had 700 deaths that were reported to VARES in the month of January alone, 19,000 severe adverse events.
	And they're sitting here getting on TV and saying, hey, don't worry about it.
	Everything's fine.
	There's a five alarm fire going on behind the green screen that they're sitting there, and then they're just blatantly lying to you.
	They know what's going on.
	They knew what was happening.
	Myocarditis, I mean, they took up, you know, at one point they took the Johnson & Johnson shot off the market, then they didn't, then they put it back on, you know.
	I mean, the conflict of interest here, here, the Moderna patent, half of the Moderna patent is owned by the CDC.
	So every single doc in the, in, you know, at the CDC and scientists there is getting a bonus every year.
	I think Moderna paid the CDC, what, $440 million or something like that at the end of 2021 or 2022.
	And then they, according, and then how Fauci distributed that, I don't know.
	But $440 million divided over, what, 12,000 employees or something?
	And not all of those people are scientists.
	So, I mean, the corruption, the deception, the deceit is just astounding to me.
	One of the things that I have the hardest time with, and I know that you're busy and you got to go, a couple of things.
	Number one, that everybody bought this because everything about vaccines changed.
	You mentioned the Dr. Gupta and Joe Rogan conversation, you'll do much better.
	Never before have we ever heard that.
	Also, what about this one?
	You need to get your shot so that I'm safe.
	Right.
	When has that ever medically even been possible?
	Is that even a thing that you get a vaccine to protect me from catching what you might have or have already had?
	No.
	And I've been saying that about vaccines forever.
	I mean, you talked about that, you know, the measles, quote unquote measles outbreak and then that one, that one kid that died.
	And that kid died from pneumonia, from lack of care of, you know, meeting the standard of care.
	Pierre Corey did a full, you know, full autopsy, not for autopsy, but he did an autopsy on the medical records.
	And, you know, that was just, that was lack.
	It was just poor standard of care.
	But yeah, why, if, you know, if you get a vaccine to protect yourself, okay, why is it that I need to get one to protect you?
	You are, you're supposedly protected.
	So why, why do you need me to be protected against you?
	It just, that whole concept has been, it's been out there for 20, 30, 40 years.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	And when you ask people about it, they just look at you.
	You know, you mentioned lie to other doctors.
	I've been out of medical school since 1993, 32 years.
	I had never been to the CDC website ever.
	Never let them direct what my medical care was.
	Never let them tell me what I needed to do.
	And as a matter of fact, the CDC is an advisory agency only.
	Their charter is to make recommendations to the state health departments.
	So I don't know how far we got off the rails that all of a sudden when they say, hey, you need to do this, now it becomes a mandate or it becomes an edict, you know, or anything like that.
	But the biggest thing that the biggest struggle that I have with the medical community, and I was just talking to a doc out of England just a few minutes ago.
	Those of us that were looking at this felt so alone.
	Okay.
	Because everybody is, hey, get your shot.
	Do this.
	You're hurting people.
	Wear your mask.
	Stay six feet away.
	You know, make sure you get your booster shot.
	How long has it been since you're, and I'm just, and I'm looking at the science and I'm looking at the data.
	And like I told you, I'm looking at the data from January of 2021 alone, 700 deaths reported.
	And there's a study back, I think it was a 2010 or 2014 study from a Harvard study that was sanctioned by the CDC itself that said that only somewhere between 1 and 10% are reported.
	So you're talking about 700 deaths.
	If it's 10%, then that means it's 7,000.
	Okay.
	If it's only 1%, then that means 70,000 people died.
	So somewhere between 7,000 and 70,000 people died in January alone.
	And most of those probably only had one shot.
	So you're alone because you're sitting here looking around and you, I could not believe that people were giving people a shot when you opened up the material safety data sheet for the thing and it says intentionally left blank on the front and back.
	Right.
	How do you inject people with something that you don't even have the ingredients of what you're injecting and say that you gave them informed consent?
	The only thing you can say is, oh, well, the CDC and Dr. Fauci and Walensky and Francis Collins and everybody, they say it's safe and I believe them.
	That's the only thing you can do.
	Because if you do your own research and you look into it yourself, there's no way you can come to that decision.
	There's never before been a shot like that.
	And if you go and pop a couple of Advil and you pull out the insert inside of a bottle of this Advil, it's like there's thousands of words on this thing.
	It stands out super big.
	This is Advil.
	24 by 32.
	It opens up to a 24 by 32 piece of paper, 32 inch piece of paper.
	It's crazy.
	And I held up one of these so-called Pfizer vaccine inserts and took a picture.
	I don't remember who it was that I was standing next to.
	It might have been Pierre Corey, actually.
	And it was intentionally left blank.
	It says that right on there.
	I brought that insert into pharmacies and asked pharmacists, how are you injecting this into the people?
	How are you giving them proper informed consent when you don't know what the f ⁇ you're shooting into them?
	Excuse my language.
	And I asked them, and then I got kicked out of these pharmacies.
	I wasn't allowed at the doctor's offices.
	I mean, I was just a Hellion, you know?
	And then, of course, we had to work on all kinds of other projects to try to let people know what this was.
	And I mean, there was a really good core group of heroes running around.
	And you're absolutely one of them.
	I mean, I just.
	You were too.
	I remember watching your show, and I think you had Karen Kingston on at least twice a week.
	And then Jane Ruby before she split off and went out on her own.
	And so you were certainly there.
	And it made, you know, and it helped craft my, you know, kind of my understanding of all this by you kind of presenting all that information to date out there.
	So I gotta.
	We were just so inundated with it because we had people just like shoving it at us.
	And then we talked to Brittany Galvin, which was the first like vaccine injured person to come out.
	And she's like, I'll come on the show.
	And she had that Guillain Beret.
	We're still in touch with her.
	Down at Mayo in Rochester, Minnesota, About, I don't know, an hour and 10 minutes south of where our studios are here.
	There was that Callie Newkirk who was working at Mayo Clinic.
	And there was a whole group of these nurses that got together and they asked me to come down and speak to them, kind of off the record.
	And they were like, Well, what do we do?
	Well, I mean, I don't know, but you cannot in good faith participate in this because I'm telling you right now, history, when it looks back at you, if you were giving these shots to people, you were murdering them.
	If you know what you know enough to be in this room right now, standing there with me, and you're giving these shots to people, you're part of this assault on humanity.
	This is a weapon of biowarfare.
	And I think that all of them quit.
	A couple of them were suspended.
	People walked out.
	They were fired.
	There was, I mean, there were those that could, a litany of different things happened to these people.
	And it was at that same place where the general surgeon, Mark Sawyer, I believe his name was, said he enjoys watching the unvaccinated slowly die.
	He enjoys.
	No, it was a general surgeon.
	And it said there was another one, though, also.
	But he said he had either Case Western or Cleveland Clinic that said the same thing.
	He said, you know, I have no sympathy for anybody who comes in here unvaccinated and who's dying.
	Yeah.
	He said, it puts me in a meditative state of zen.
	That was a quote.
	He said, I dream and fantasize about rhythmically kicking them in the genitalia.
	I mean, this guy's a psycho and he's a surgeon at Mayo Clinic.
	Right.
	Well, look at the pediatrician that came out when the just, I mean, again, this is the level of humanity that we've reached, right?
	The pediatrician that in this recent flood in Texas that killed all those kids that said that anybody who, anybody who was there who was a MAGA deserved to die.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we reported on that as well.
	At what point in humanity, at what point do you reach that level that just because of somebody's political views, you think that they should just be dead?
	It's astounding to me where we've lost touch with humanity.
	That's the really big picture thing.
	Yeah.
	We saw the worst, but we definitely saw the best.
	Thank you for being one of them.
	Appreciate it.
	Dr. Kirk Moore.
	Come back again sometime.
	Stay on the war path.
	We appreciate it.
	God bless you.
	All right.
	There he is.
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