Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Epstein Fallout + Amnesty Rumors Squashed by Trump’s Ag Secretary
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All right, folks, welcome to the show.
Thanks so much for being with us.
This is the Millstone Report.
My name is Paul Harrell, and we can't do the program without you watching every single day.
We've got a little bit of some little technical snafus going on once again, but welcome to the show.
Still a lot of fallout from the DOJ FBI Pam Bondi gaslighting.
For what I can tell, I think most of the blame, correctly so, is being placed on Attorney General Pam Bondi for handling this situation, I guess, maybe in the worst possible way that you could.
Many people speculating if Pam Bondi was doing all of this for personal accolades, which seems to appear that way.
And maybe that's the most charitable way you could look at it because the other option is that she is essentially part of the Epstein cover-up now.
So these are the things we're dealing with on the show today.
We're not blackpilling.
We're going to do our best not to blackpill.
If I do blackpill, I'm going to revert to my famous blackpill bulimia because, of course, we approach all of these issues knowing that the Lord in heaven, God above, is in charge of all of it.
Even the good, bad, the ugly.
He can use all of it.
And he does use all of it.
And so we're going to try to stay focused on that truth as we go through the news that might seem a little bit depressing.
Just a hair.
So I guess we're going to dive right into it today.
Really, not a lot has changed.
The DOJ, the FBI continuing to gaslight the American people.
The first thing that we have up for you today is we're going to talk a little bit about immigration.
So before we get back into the Epstein fallout, we're going to talk just a little bit about immigration.
There was a headline yesterday because Charlie Kirk was reporting that he was hearing that there was a major push for amnesty.
I don't know if you've heard this, but there was a major push for amnesty in the Trump administration.
People around him, the allegations were maybe in some sort of executive order, maybe an executive order that has to do with the H-1B visa program, which obviously very controversial, especially if you are steeped in the MAGA movement and you are tired of not just illegal immigration, but even the legal immigration aspect of this and what it's done to our country.
Speculation that this was going to somehow happen very quickly, that there was a move to do it.
But Brooke Rollins, who is the agricultural secretary in the Trump administration, appears to have squashed this rumor, at least for now.
Maybe the Trump administration has taken a step back and realized that they've had among their base quite a terrible 48 hours when you look at how demoralized everybody is when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
You know, we talked about this yesterday.
I talked about it here on the Millstone Report.
I talked about it on my afternoon show of the Paul Harrell program with Rob Spencer.
We talked about how Americans for a long time now, politics we know is a dirty business.
We know that in our system where we democratically elect people, that it is naturally going to attract those who want power and want to use power against other people.
We know that it's going to just naturally, because of the human condition, going to attract people that don't know how to build.
It's going to attract more of those people than it is those that know how to build things.
So that's kind of what we're dealing with.
But we've always wondered why do they come back to us with excuses?
They run one way.
They run on a platform.
Generally speaking, the Republican platform is a good platform.
And then they come back to us after they make all these promises and they give us all of these excuses.
Now, conventionally, in the past, one of the reasons people would speculate why politicians don't actually pass bills that they claim that they're going to pass is because the second they get to Washington, D.C., Every person that they meet from a lobbyist standpoint that's entrenched in the Washington, D.C. swamp is going to ask them on a daily basis to do the opposite of what they told their constituents they would do.
This has been the conventional wisdom as to why, and that basically there's just not enough backbone Kahone's moral compass to stay the course and tell people no.
I think it was Calvin Coolidge that has some really good quotes about that phenomenon.
So it's been going on for a very long time.
But in the modern political, from a modern political perspective, I would say most of us are under the belief that there's a lot of blackmail going on, that that in fact is the currency.
And Jeffrey Epstein was a key part of that, especially when 10 years ago he really became a household name, maybe more so five years ago when he didn't kill himself.
But this was a reason.
This island, the Lolita Express, the airplane, the Clintons, other powerful people, celebrities, Bill Gates, you name them.
This was all of a sudden another explanation, a much more nefarious one, much more, well, it's not just the system.
No, the whole thing is being run on blackmail.
This was another reason that we could pinpoint to say this is why they go to Washington and they come back different.
And so that is why people have been demanding justice.
It's not just that we want justice for the victims.
It's not just we don't want to be ruled by secret pedophiles.
It is all those things, but it also has to do with the fact that we want our government back.
It has to do with the fact that we want to explain how this phenomenon of politicians going to Washington, D.C. and coming back to us with excuses continues to happen over and over and over and over again.
And so the DOJ gaslighting here is extremely frustrating.
So that's what I'm saying.
They've had a very bad 48 hours, the Trump administration with their base.
They know this.
Pam Bondi is largely to blame.
And so this rumor of amnesty got squashed this morning as the Agricultural Secretary Brooke Rollins announces there will be no amnesty.
Let's take a listen.
There will be no amnesty.
The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way, and we move the workforce towards automation and 100% American participation, which again, with 34 million people, able-bodied adults on Medicaid, we should be able to do that fairly quickly.
Thank you.
The mass deportations will continue, she says, something that is a much-needed piece of good news.
Obviously, we can get into debates about what all that means and how much, you know, Tom Holman saying that they've got to get to 7,000 a day.
Steve Bannon, though, earlier on his program today was addressing this rumor that they were going to sneak amnesty into an executive order through H-2A visas.
And he's remarking on Secretary Rollins here, what you just heard saying, shut it down, saying that the mass deportions are going to continue and we're not going to have amnesty.
Listen.
This is why we're going to go after the H-1B.
We are going after the H-1B programs.
Now, she said later, Labor Secretary is working on some H-2A because this was the rumor, this is what people's heads were blowing up.
And I'm not saying they weren't thinking about doing it, but they're going to slide an amnesty into an executive order around H-2As.
That is not, at least right now, it's not happening.
She said, no way, no amnesty.
Brooke Ryland, Secretary of Agriculture, couldn't be more adamant about that.
Strategic deportations, mass deportations.
We'll break that down.
Mass deportations now, amnesty never.
Let me repeat the mantra.
Mass deportations now, amnesty never.
So, yeah, so that's just a little bit of information regarding that.
You know, the thing with the deportations that we have been seeing, and I think I've shared this with you before, but I mean, even here in my home state of Arkansas, I was talking to a plumber the other day, maybe this was a month or so ago, you know, who went out for, I don't know what a plumber, I don't know what all integral, I know it's very complicated, but when you have new builds, there's different phases and that sort of thing.
And he goes out to do the initial plumbing work that you would do, and he's due back in a couple of weeks after there's more building.
Well, that just got delayed because illegal immigrants working, illegal aliens working on the job site, they either left or they were deported themselves.
And so the entire crew was gone.
So this is happening all over the country.
And I think that's why Trump, you've heard Trump's signal, even after the passage of the big, beautiful bill, which we really didn't get to cover at all.
I was gone all last week.
And then, of course, we covered a bunch of the Jeffrey Epstein fallout yesterday, which we're going to continue to do here in a moment.
There's pressure on the farm.
He's getting pressure from the farmers, getting pressure from hospitality, hotels, that sort of thing.
And obviously, I think even we're talking construction.
There's a lot of pressure over the idea of enforcing the law.
But in many regards, this is what the American people voted on.
And they're going to continue.
Obviously, I would definitely prioritize the violent criminals first.
And I think that's being done along with anyone else who's here illegally.
But I mean, what Trump was talking about, and I heard Alex Jones talk about this yesterday, that Trump has always thought about the needing to be some plan for those people who have been here for forever, forever, that he has said this from the beginning.
So we'll see.
We'll wait and see.
But I definitely know there are a lot of demoralized people right now just because of the whole Epstein cover-up, and that's what it looks like it is.
I mean, you've got a minute of missing audio tape in the video, or videotape in the video that was supposed to show.
See, there's nothing to see.
Epstein killed himself with a paper bed sheet and basically slit his own throat.
That's what the autopsy, that's what the body images look like.
So we're literally, you've heard it said, we're being, you know, they're peeing on us and they're telling us it's raining.
That's what we're told to believe.
And so right now, at least for the time being, Secretary Rollins says no amnesty.
Can you imagine if they actually announce that now after what just happened with the Epstein debacle?
So speaking of the Epstein debacle, we have the after party interviewing Megan Kelly, asking them about Bongino, asking her about Bongino, asking her about Cash Patel.
Because this is, again, you know, and this kind of really kind of dovetails exactly into what I was talking about just a second ago.
You know, this phenomenon of electing politicians, okay, in the case of, and then them coming back with excuses, them totally doing a 180.
In the case of Dan Bongino and in the case of Cash Patel, these were, for lack of a better, I mean, these were our guys.
These were our people.
We were on ex clamoring for them to be nominated.
We were on ex clamoring for them to be confirmed.
These were our guys.
These were the ones.
Not so much Pam Bondi.
Matt Gates would have done a much better job.
But these were our guys.
And for them to go in and so quickly change and immediately take the FBI line, tow the party line, tow the Intel oligarch line is yet another huge red flag.
And look, this whole operation, okay, so the whole Epstein thing we all know is based on blackmail is him working for intelligence agencies, CIA, MI6, Mossad.
Now some people now throw Saudi intelligence in there too.
I don't know exactly, but the fact is this is a blackmail operation.
We all know this.
It's been documented.
And now the people that we send in from our side to expose the blackmail operation, to expose the intelligence agencies, are now towing the Intel agency party line.
You would at least have to entertain that blackmail is once again involved here.
Blackmail being used potentially.
I'm just speculating, of course, but we are well within our rights, well within reasonability.
This is a very reasonable proposition to say that this is potentially blackmail being used on our guys to cover up a blackmail operation.
Now, I don't have any evidence of that.
This is just intuition, but it's based on, you know, it's based on a long pattern, a long train of abuses and usurpations, to quote the Declaration of Independence.
And this is the issue for Bongino and Patel, in my opinion.
You take these jobs, you make these lofty promises on the podcast circuit, a podcast circuit that was integral to Donald Trump's re-election.
And here's the deal.
If you don't get the job done, if you don't give us results, we will understandably, reasonably conclude that you're in on it.
And so, I mean, I guess that's just, you know, you have to know that going in.
You have to know you're facing this behemoth of corruption, this behemoth of subversion.
And surely both of those guys knew that going in.
And again, that's giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Megan Kelly here says that she doesn't know so much about cash, but she does still trust Bongino and puts all the blame on Pam Bondi.
In the memo, the language that Pam Bondi used, which was no incriminating client list, that really jumped out to me, actually, because it maybe gives her a little wiggle room between saying that she had a client list and then saying there's no incriminating client list.
So I wanted to ask you if maybe that's what's going on here before we get into some of these other details.
I don't know what's going on with her.
I believe Dan Bongino is not lying to me.
I really do.
When Dan Bongino puts his name on something, I don't know Cash as well, but I know Dan.
I know him well.
We worked together many, many years.
He didn't just turn around and start lying.
That's not who he is.
He's an honest guy, and he takes this role very seriously, and I trust him, and I trust him not to actively mislead me or you.
However, Pam Bondi has definitely made multiple inconsistent statements, and I'm sorry, but she does not deserve the benefit of my good opinion, and I'm not prepared to give it to her.
She's, yes, on camera saying that clip that Peter Ducey was referencing where John Roberts asked her, do you have a client list?
Like, are you going to release a client list?
And she said, yes.
He said, client list?
And she said, yes, it's on my desk right now.
So it was not as amorphous as Caroline, to her credit, she's trying to cover for the administration, which is her job, but they put her in a very difficult position.
Yes, they did.
It's not amorphous.
It's very clear.
She said, yes.
And here's what happened.
What happened was Pam Bondi said that.
And then a week later, she said she was going to be releasing some very interesting documents the next day when on Jesse Waters' show, like six days after that first hit, he said, hey, what client list is coming out?
And she was like, it's going to be getting very interesting and some interesting Epstein documents are coming out tomorrow.
And that is when the influencers, right-wing influencers who had been very good to Trump, who amidst all the deranged media out there, were able to see through the bullshit and reported honestly and helped him a lot and did not deserve the humiliation that she heaped upon them.
It was not through their own doing.
She invited them there.
I mean, who wouldn't go, right?
It's Pam Bondi.
Do you want to come meet with the head of the FBI and the vice president for an exclusive Epstein leak?
Yeah, yes.
Most people in media would say yes to that.
So they went, and in the classic line from Animal House, you fucked up.
You trusted us.
That's what happened.
They fucked up because they trusted her, and they were humiliated because she gave them all these binders that read Epstein files, you know, volume one.
And there was nothing new in there.
Nothing.
There was no scoop.
Why would she do that?
And it led to behind the scenes, like all the White House staffers, like the top people in the White House for Trump, distancing themselves from Pam Bondi immediately.
Like, we don't know why she did that.
And then it came out that they were urging her not to do it.
But I don't know what she was up to.
She wanted to have some moment where she looked like she was the one.
And then she was in trouble and she knew it.
So she said, all right, that's just the first tranche.
I'm really pissed off.
The FBI is the one who screwed me.
They said everything was in there.
Okay, like you need to know.
You need to know.
No lawyer just sloppily calls all these PR people in and says, here are the files without knowing what's in there.
But she wants us to believe she did.
Okay, so she either was clueless or she intentionally embarrassed them.
I don't know.
Yeah, so I mean, honestly, I know the conservative influencers like Liz Wheeler or Jack Pesobic or DC Draino, who went to that meeting, there were others.
I know they took a lot of flack for essentially being pawns.
They were criticized after that for participating in basically a limited hangout and a red herring, a way to say, look, we released the files and this was the main criticism.
Like, you guys are participating in something that is actually going to, you know, giving us information we already have.
There were redacted portions, as she said, redacted portions in the documents that Pam Bondi released that were already unredacted on the internet.
And so the whole thing was very, very strange.
But now we're hearing more from their side of the story.
And we did, in a lot of ways, we did afterwards already that they didn't even know they were getting the binders until they got there and that they were essentially being used as tools.
So I think now in hindsight, we have to look at it from that standpoint.
I don't think Pam Bondi was doing that to intentionally make the conservative influencers look bad.
I think she was doing it now.
I think it's more likely that she was doing it to pacify the right and hope that we would all fall in line and all accept what was already public information.
And then, of course, that didn't go well.
It was a complete nightmare.
It blows up in her face.
So then she pens a letter to Cash Patel, and she brings newly confirmed Cash Patel in and lumps him in with this and says, you know, give me the files.
And now we don't get phase two.
Phase two is a memo released from the DOJ saying you can't prosecute anybody on the client list.
And we didn't find any client list that had the evidence that we could actually prosecute this.
And I don't think anybody really cares what I'm about to say next at this point, and this is kind of going to prove my point.
This will cost, in my opinion, this will cost the Republicans, the House, and the Senate.
One of the biggest things they could have done is go after wherever the breadcrumbs lead, even if it led to Republicans, even if it led, obviously if it led to Democrats.
But the whole point, the entire point of a cash Battelle, the entire point of a Dan Bongino was to restore trust in the justice system.
That is not happening.
There is now less trust than there was three days ago.
So this is a huge problem.
This is a huge scandal.
It's not going away.
We must demand that they release the files.
Obviously, we're not talking about stuff that identifies victims or child pornography.
And again, I'll say what I said yesterday.
I don't understand why they did this at all.
It would have been so much easier to get into office and say, yeah, we promised all this stuff, but the Biden destroyed it.
Like, they destroyed it.
So we still have a lot.
We still have many, many more questions.
Now, one of the guys asking those questions is a guy who was part of the Twitter file release, Michael Schellenberger.
And I thought this was really, really good.
He wrote an article called, quote, this is a total effing disaster.
And that's a quote from somebody within the administration.
He says, for the last decade, the media has called the idea that America is ruled by a secret government of deep state intelligence agencies like the CIA and FBI a right-wing conspiracy theory.
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Journalists at outlets such as the New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, and NPR have portrayed claims about a deep state as paranoid fabrications pushed by Donald Trump and his supporters to discredit legitimate government institutions.
They insisted that accusations of political bias or covert influence by agencies like the CIA or FBI had no basis in fact and served only to inflame public distrust.
And yet, over the same period, investigative reporting, including by the two of us and official disclosures, revealed that these agencies interfered in domestic politics in ways that aligned with that very narrative.
The FBI launched a surveillance operation against the Trump campaign based on unverified opposition research from the Clintons.
Dozens of former intelligence officials falsely claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop story bore the classic earmarks of Russian disinformation just weeks before the 2020 election.
The Department of Homeland Security, along with the FBI and other agencies, coordinated with social media platforms to suppress speech under the banner of combating misinformation.
These actions, taken together, suggest not a shadowy cabal, but a real and expanding infrastructure of state-aligned influence aimed at shaping public perception and countering populist dissent, just as the so-called conspiracy theorists claimed.
The strongest argument against the existence of a secret government run by the deep state was the reelection of Donald Trump in 2024.
If agencies like the CIA, FBI, and Department of Homeland Security truly exercised covert and unchecked control over American politics, it is difficult to explain how their most outspoken critic and avowed enemy returned to power.
Trump did not merely criticize the intelligence community.
He ran on a platform promising its reform.
He vowed to purge partisan operatives, dismantle what he called politically weaponized agencies, and hold officials accountable for a pattern of lawless interference.
And despite his direct confrontation with the national security establishment, Trump defeated Kamala Harris decisively, winning 312 electoral votes and a narrow popular vote majority.
But now the Trump administration is attempting to sweep the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking scandal under the rug.
So you do the math there, by the way, folks.
You do the math there.
This has...
I mean, if this goes...
If this just is left the way it is, nothing to see here, and the government never revisits this again, Donald Trump, the Trump administration, is essentially finding themselves in a John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy 2.0 that will haunt his administration forever, forever, in my opinion.
So they're deciding to sweep the scandal under the rug with the Justice Department claiming that there is no client list and that no further disclosure is warranted, even though Attorney General Pamboni explicitly stated publicly that there were tens of thousands of videos, which means the ability to identify the individuals involved in sex with minors, and that anyone in the Epstein files who tries to keep their name private has no legal basis to do so.
We played for you all of those clips on the program yesterday.
Here's an old timeline.
Schellenberger writes, on April 28th, 2025, in a candid off-the-record exchange caught on video, Bondi told a bystander, there are tens of thousands of videos, and it's all with little kids.
She later reiterated on May 7th that these were videos of Epstein with children or child porn.
Bondi's comments directly contradicted the official stance of the administration, which has dismissed calls for a client list and slowed efforts to release the full contents of the Epstein files.
Despite Trump's campaign promises to dismantle the deep state and hold elites accountable, his administration now appears to be protecting the same intelligence and law enforcement networks it once condemned.
Strong evidence suggests that Epstein was part of a sex blackmail operation tied to intelligence agencies.
Visitor logs show that William Burns, who served as CIA director under President Biden, visited Epstein's New York townhouse multiple times.
The Wall Street Journal reported those visits in 2023 based on Epstein's private calendar.
In 2017, Alex Acosta, the Justice Department official who gave Epstein his 2008 plea deal, told Trump transition officials that he was told to back off Epstein because he belonged to intelligence.
The Justice Department later admitted that all 11 months of Acosta's emails from that period had disappeared.
This failure to allow thorough, I'm sorry, this failure to follow through seriously undermines Trump's explicit commitments to reform and shine light on the deep state.
This is not just about Epstein.
The Trump administration has not been particularly transparent about much else.
The CIA, to its credit, released an internal evaluation last week admitting it had erred in the 2017 intelligence community assessment by claiming that Russia aspired to help elect Trump, but it stood by the overall assessment signaling the agency's reluctance to admit fault, its continued defensiveness in the face of mounting evidence, and its impunity.
The Office of the Director of National Intelligence has disclosed a limited amount of information about intelligence community abuses during the pandemic, including the targeting of COVID vaccine dissenters as potential violent extremists.
But beyond that, the Trump administration has released very little, even on issues where transparency would appear to be in its political interest.
The administration has kept classified large volumes of material related to COVID origins, the FBI's role in Russia Gate, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story, an unidentified anomalous phenomenon.
It is thus hard not to conclude that the intelligence community, the intel oligarchy as I call them, Schellenberger goes on, they continue to operate in violation of the constitutional system of checks and balances by evading meaningful congressional oversight.
The Constitution grants Congress the power and responsibility to oversee the executive branch, including intelligence agencies, through budgetary control, public hearings, and access to classified information.
Here's the deal.
That's the thing with these congressional hearings, though.
We all know, like, yeah, you're tasked with it, but you may be being blackmailed by the very agencies you're supposed to expose.
And then you end up just using the committee hearings to clip soundbites of yourself to send out in emails to raise more money for your reelection.
Schellenberger goes on, and yet the intelligence community is withholding and heavily Redacting documents, delaying responses to lawful inquiries, and using national security classifications to avoid scrutiny.
This persistent obstruction undermines the legislative branch's ability to hold agencies accountable and distorts the balance of power the framers design.
When unelected intelligence officials can withhold information not only from the public but from elected representatives, constitutional oversight becomes a formality rather than a functioning safeguard.
Few independent journalists, Schellenberger goes on, have done more than we have to defend Donald Trump and the MAGA movement against the weaponization of the intelligence community and deep state agencies.
Over the past two and a half years, we've published hundreds of investigative articles and testified before Congress about the unconstitutional abuses of power by the CIA, FBI, DHS, and their proxies.
We exposed efforts to censor Trump and his supporters through a sprawling censorship industrial complex, documented the manipulation of the justice system to prosecute Trump on politicized grounds, and revealed how the U.S. and foreign agencies coordinated mass surveillance of speech.
We defended Trump from false and malicious claims, showed that his administration obeyed court orders, and disproved the narrative that he violated Democratic norms more than Democrats.
We were the first to report new evidence that President Obama's CIA director ordered spying on the Trump campaign officials to justify surveillance and interfere in the 2016 election.
After Trump's reelection, we published investigations revealing abuses of power by USAID and the Department of Education.
We editorialized in support of his lawful executive orders ending DEI and gender-affirming procedures for minors.
We exposed the CIA and USAID's role in supporting the 2019 impeachment effort and their connection to the Russian collusion hoax.
In all this, we have consistently made the case that Trump's victory was not just political, it was moral.
He says, given all that we've done to expose the censorship industrial complex and intelligence community abuses of power, public's readers rightly expect us to follow through on these concerns no matter who holds office.
We did not spend years documenting unconstitutional secrecy, surveillance, and coercion only to remain silent when the administration we defended begins to mirror the behavior we condemned.
Our commitment is not to any one leader or party, but to the Constitution, to civil liberties, and to the principle that no government, Democratic or Republican, should be allowed to rule through secrecy, coercion, or fear.
To prove, Schellenberger goes on, to prove it's not simply the latest custodian of the deep state, this is a big one, to prove it's not simply the latest custodian of the deep state, the Trump administration must release the Epstein videos and related evidence, fully expose the scope of the sex trafficking and apparent intelligence community blackmail operation, and ensure that every perpetrator, regardless of power or position, is held accountable under the law.
It must also release the long-withheld files on COVID origins, RussiaGate, the Hunter Biden laptop, January 6th, unidentified aerial phenomenon, and other topics.
Even if these files do not reveal any smoking guns, the public has a right to full transparency.
Only through this transparency can the credibility of the intelligence community be restored.
Congress must step up as well.
They're not going to do anything.
He goes on.
These are not matters of political convenience, but constitutional obligation.
The American people have a right to know what their government has done in their name and against their rights.
If the Trump administration fails to act, it will condemn, or I'm sorry, it will confirm the fear that even the most populist and combative president can be captured or neutralized, I might actually insert the word neutered, by the very system he vowed to dismantle, and it will lose much of the legitimacy it gained by surviving and overcoming the lawfare, censorship, and weaponization of the deep state against it.
Many within the Trump administration acknowledge this and note this is hardly the end of the Epstein affair.
Quote, this is a total effing disaster, end quote, someone within the intelligence community told us this afternoon as we're going to press with this editorial.
After we pointed out that the Attorney General said one thing and now the Justice Department, FBI Director, and Deputy FBI Director are all saying the opposite, the person said this, quote, I hope you ask these questions.
These are the questions they need to be asked or that need to be asked.
We are in a time when information flows more freely.
If people think that this is going away, I don't see how it can, nor, we would add, should it.
Again, that's Michael Schellenberger with his piece in public.
Also, Alex Gutentag is the other guy that wrote this particular story.
Anyway, tell me what you think.
Sound off.
I mean, it's absolutely insane that this is where we are today.
And of course, Donald Trump last night puts out a Truth Social post where he confirms his support for the FBI under Bongino, or under Patel and Bongino, that they're doing a great job.
And this is more gaslighting.
Now, maybe this is some signal that, you know, I noticed he didn't post anything that I saw about what a great job Pam Bondi is doing.
But this is more gaslighting from Trump himself after we're all essentially sitting here left holding the bag.
The lectern guy on X, I can't believe I served more time in federal prison for moving a lectern than any of Epstein's clients.
I can't believe I served.
This is the guy on January 6th who was photographed with the, is that Nancy Pelosi's lectern?
Anyway, it's a congressional lectern.
Absolutely insane.
Also, we have this.
Let's just go ahead and play Cash Patel again in his own words.
This highlight from the Benny show.
Owen Schroyer asking, the FBI director Cash Patel says the FBI is covering up Epstein client list to protect high-profile individuals.
So what's going on right now?
You know, it's the same thing with Epstein's list.
It's like, what the hell are these Republicans doing?
I saw you make news this morning about that.
I gotta get to that.
You say that the FBI has Epstein's list.
They're sitting on it.
That doesn't seem like something you should do.
You're protecting the world's foremost predator.
That seems like an evil thing to do, regardless of who may be embarrassed in the release of that list.
Why is the FBI protecting the greatest pederist, the largest scale pederist in human history?
Simple, because of who's on that list.
You don't think that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress night and day to prevent the disclosure of that list?
And why is it that the Senate, you know, and good for Senator Blackburn to try to get it out, but then Dick Durbin comes over the top and says, no, we're not going to release the names.
I don't care about the list itself, but he've released the names, right?
What the hell are the House Republicans doing?
They have the majority.
You can't get the list.
You're going to accept Dick Durbin's word or whoever that guy is as to who is on that list and who isn't and that it can and can't be released?
Put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are.
We have an election coming up and we need to adjudicate this matter at the polls.
God knows the FBI and DOJ aren't going to do anything, but how are you going to reward the FBI with a new headquarters building after their illegal surveillance on Donald Trump continues with a reauthorization of FISA and we can't even get basic documents out?
This is why America hates Congress.
Yeah, no, I mean, this is the thing.
I mean, he literally has rewarded the FBI with a new building.
Cash Patel has.
He's moved them, I think, to the Reagan building.
So we're within our rights to be as vocal.
Because I see some people out there still, they're trying to criticize some of these people don't even know who I am, but they're trying to criticize those of us out there who are trying to hold the Trump administration to their campaign promises as if somehow we're not real MAGA or we're being too overly critical.
This is a coalition movement.
This is now a party that has many different coalitions that and within that coalition, we should not be upset that there is vigorous debate and criticism when things don't go our way.
So I don't understand how there's so many people that just want what just happened to just go away.
Or they want people to not talk about it.
Sure, attack people for criticizing, but don't attack us as like we're somehow othered or we're not true MAGA.
That's just preposterous.
And it actually lends to the, I think, discredited claim at this point that anyone who voted for Trump is just a cultist and will only do the people that are out there right now that are criticizing those of us who are trying to hold our government accountable and are expressing our feelings and our opinions about how terrible this is are actually proving that narrative wrong.
Those who want people to be silenced, I think, are kind of leading into that stereotype, honestly, at this point.
General Michael Flynn gives an Epstein files sit rep.
He says, what everyone is missing are the children who were abused by Epstein and others.
I don't care whether he killed himself or not.
For me, I want to believe FBI Director Cash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Bongino.
But with the FBI's track record with laptops, Hunter Biden, Anthony Weiner, Seth Rich, now Epstein, never mind the FBI's previous track record for telling the truth, it's really hard to fathom that something else isn't going on here.
I think there now needs to be an incredibly transparent briefing to the American people immediately by the DOJ.
Who's going to lead that briefing?
General?
Pam Bondi?
Pam Bondi at this point leading a briefing.
Oh, my goodness.
Yeah, it's just, it's not.
You know what?
Let's just quit pretending.
It actually hasn't been good from the beginning.
She is not the best communicator.
And from the very beginning of her taking the head attorney general, from the very beginning, you guys know that scene?
I've talked about this before.
There's that scene in the movie, The Dark Knight, where they got the Chinese guy on the, all the mob bosses are meeting the Jokers there, and they got the Chinese guy on the TV screen promising them, you know, give your money to me, I'll keep it safe.
And the Joker looks at the guy and he's like, you're going to squeal.
Like, you're untrustworthy.
And that's the feeling that I personally have gotten from Bondi.
I mean, you try to give her the benefit of the doubt, but like, you know, come on.
Her presence on camera is not good.
She doesn't really, she doesn't, she never has really exhibited that she has a command of the facts.
She may have talking points that she can, you know, get out, but I've never been impressed with her presence, if you will.
I call it stage presence or whatever, or call it virtuoso.
I don't really care.
It's just I've never.
So at this point, now that there's an actual scandal where people are highly critical of her and she's got a lot to answer for based on what she said and how she's handled all this, if the press is actually allowed to let loose and ask her questions, I don't think she's going to do very well.
But I could be wrong about that.
Jack Pasobic went on Piers Morgan uncensored to talk about Epstein.
He was one of the ones that got one of those bogus binders.
Listen To this, what's happened here?
I mean, we were all led down a train of thought that there was going to be all sorts of stuff coming out about this Epstein case, the files, the names, the lists, accountability, and then boom, it's all disappeared.
Yeah, Piers, I mean, this is, as we would say in the military, unsat, completely unsat from Attorney General Pam Bondi.
And this line about there being files that are currently under seal in some criminal case, well, then great.
Let's go and get those unsealed as soon as possible.
Look, I was brought to the White House under the pretense of a series of policy briefings that were going to be held, not just from the AG, but from, we had the vice president came in, the president came in, Bobby Kennedy came in.
So we had a rotating series of people from the administration, Marco Rubia, the Secretary of State.
And then nobody told us prior to this that the Epstein files would be anywhere even on the agenda for that day.
And it was really sprung as a surprise to all of us.
We get handed these binders.
And then before we even have a chance to look into them, we're hauled out actually in front of the cameras that were all there because Prime Minister Kierstomer was visiting the White House that day.
And oh, it just so happened that they were all in front of the West Wing.
And by the time that we have the ability to actually go through them, well, lo and behold, we find out that it's all information that was completely already in the public domain.
In fact, some of the information that was in the public domain was more extensive than what was given to us on that day.
So the whole thing, obviously, I think, as you say, is a cock-up.
I hope I'm using that phrase correctly.
I'm not entirely familiar with it.
But that certainly feels like what happened here.
And we don't have the accountability that was spoken of.
We don't have the releases that were spoken of.
And it's just, it's indefensible.
It's indefensible that the answers aren't there when so much was promised.
It is indefensible.
And that's why today on the program, I'm going to skip ahead a few slides.
Today on the program, I'm going to try to wrap.
I'm going to try to thread a needle here.
Caroline Levitt.
She says, big news from DHS.
Jennifer Jacobs writes, travelers no longer have to remove their shoes to get through the regular line at TSA security checkpoints at airports.
So for the first time since September 11th or shortly thereafter, the TSA is admitting essentially that all of that was security theater.
And it was designed to make us, I don't know, it was really just an exercise over livestock is all it was.
So I think back, and I've often thought about TSA.
I spent a lot of time talking about TSA back in the day, back when you had these.
Do you remember after the underwear bomber, they started putting their hands down your pants?
Do you remember this?
So there's a thing called incrementalism, and it can work both ways.
It can work in restoring morality and sanity and goodness in a country.
Sometimes it takes a long time.
But it can also be done the other way.
Incrementalism or this gradual step at a time can actually be used to implement tyranny.
The TSA was a great example of this.
For example, I often have said that, you know, if you took World War II veterans coming home from fighting overseas and you brought them, you know, to the year 2005 or 6 or whenever the underwear bomber was, and now they're putting their hands down their pants, putting their hands in the waistband of their women, of their wives, of their daughters, having to take their shoes off, those World War II veterans would have not tolerated it.
They came from a different time.
They came from a time where the subtle encroachment of government authority, the subtle changing of the relationship between citizen and government wasn't quite there yet.
And as we see what is being swept under the rug right before our eyes, we're told to essentially, Jeffrey Epstein never even existed at all.
I mean, they might as well just tell us like, Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, yeah, he's just, who's that?
He's just, he's not even.
Let's start to edit him out of photos.
I'm reminded of a story of World War II veterans actually coming home.
It's called the Battle of Athens in 1946.
You see, while the men were away at war, there was a county called McMinn County.
It's in Tennessee, Athens, Tennessee.
And the town became very corrupt.
The town was run by basically an organized crime unit of elected politicians, kind of run out of Memphis, Tennessee, as a matter of fact.
If you go to the Wikipedia page, it's extremely detailed.
But there's a monument to it.
The Battle of Athens was an armed revolt that gained national attention, attempting to end the control of an entrenched political machine.
World War II veterans used force to ensure that on the day of local elections in 1946, every vote was counted as cast.
After local authorities locked themselves and the ballot boxes in the jail, veterans, suspicious of foul play, gathered weapons and ammunition and exchanged fire from the hills upon the jail, which once stood across the street.
The besieged authorities surrendered at a meeting in the courthouse.
An interim government was set up, followed by the election of the veterans' slate.
So you had the veterans come home and you have all these law enforcement agencies.
You had a bunch of deputies that had been deputized who actually had cars with out-of-state license plates.
As a matter of fact, when the fighting started, they were looking for the cars without a state license plate and were destroying them, basically saying, get out of here, these hired thugs, these hired guns.
They were fining people.
This town was so corrupt that when a bus would come through, they'd get stopped, and they would then find the people on the bus for public intoxication, even though they hadn't been drinking.
So the veterans come home, and it's an absolute mess.
So they say, okay, we're going to run for office.
So they got all these GIs and they select candidates and they run their slate of candidates.
And then, of course, the corrupt government that's already in power, they run their corrupt officials.
And you can get a lot more minutiae.
You can get into the minutiae with this too.
It's actually fascinating if you go back and look at who the sheriff was and that sort of thing and the game that they were playing.
But it's almost like they knew that they knew that this was going to be a fight.
They knew this was going to be a battle.
But you plopped, what you did was you plopped real men, warfighters, who are back in their hometown, very much like Odysseus when he leaves.
He comes to find that his house is not in order.
And they took charge.
They took charge and they did what they needed to do to secure the liberties of the people.
There's even correspondence here that the GIs who were still overseas before this 1946 battle, they knew what was going on and they even wrote back saying, I'm more concerned about what's happening back in my home than I am about the Japs.
Because I think a lot of these men were from the, they served in the Pacific theater.
I say all that to say, I'm really happy that we don't have to take our shoes off.
I hope that we end the TSA sticking their hands down our pants.
I hope that's the next thing to go because it's all a bunch of nonsense and it has been for a very long time.
I mean, the point where they can see you naked, if you go through their little x-ray machine, they can see you naked.
And, of course, we know what kind of sick perverts are inevitably going to be drawn to that profession.
Anyway, it's just for context.
It's just for context.
We have, according to Amy Roebach of ABC News, the world's most prolific pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein, and our government is telling us that up is down, black is white, good is bad.
They are literally trying to tell us that we are all crazy.
And this level of gaslighting could only happen now.
It couldn't have happened 50, 60 years ago.
And so I just point it out to just show you the gradual usurpation, the gradual change between the relationship of citizens and government, of power versus the people.
And this is not going to go away.
This is not going to go away.
And if the Trump administration doesn't change course here, I just don't see how there's even a chance that the House and the Senate.
I think I think honestly, the way Pam Bonney has handled this could result in Donald Trump being impeached.
Something to think about.
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I'm going to leave you with this because we just went over the Battle of Athens.
And honestly, probably one of the most masculine things in the modern 20th century is men coming back home like Odysseus and having to set their community and their households in order.
Why in the world, this is bizarro world.
I don't know if you know this, but liberal, progressive, quote, Christian, end quote, David French was interviewed by Jordan Peterson.
There needs to be a study, a documentary done on the fall of Jordan Peterson.
David French of the New York Times, the guy who Robert Reiner, Rob Reiner used in his movie to critique Christian nationalism, or I can't even remember what it was called, but David French was a useful progressive in that.
And now they're talking about masculinity, young, male, and lost.
Start here.
And Peterson decides to interview David French.
William Wolf from the Center of Baptist Leadership writes: Why is Jordan Peterson platforming the subversive, Kamala-voting, progressive David French?
And on masculinity of all topics.
Sorry.
Yeah, I'm right there with you, man.
It doesn't make any sense.
It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
So that's all the time that we have for this edition of the Millstone Report.
I want you to tune in to X America News coming up at 4 o'clock Central.
I'll be sitting back down with my great friend Jacob Holloway, and we'll be talking with Arkansas State Senator Dan Sullivan, one of my longtime friends.
We'll also be in the studio later today for the Paul Harrell program on X America News live at 4 o'clock Central Time.
That's all the time that we have for this edition.
God bless everybody out there.
Unless I'm providentially hindered, I will see you back here tomorrow.