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Okay, so I guess today, this whole last week, well, full disclosure, I had a pretty interesting appointment with my therapist.
And I have been having conversations with my family, mainly my wife, about changes that I see in myself.
And I don't know, or I didn't know, I guess I still don't know if these things are related to my service.
Are they changes I see in myself because I'm a veteran, because I'm a Purple Heart recipient, because I've been diagnosed with PTSD and depression and adjustment disorder and all these other things, all these other labels.
And so I went to sit down and I was telling her that my wife and I have been having a conversation about things that I've noticed in myself.
Changes that are, I believe that when you notice them in yourself, it's a big deal.
Like it's something that needs to be addressed, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent.
It needs to be recognized.
It needs to be talked about, talked about, and needs to be addressed.
So things like, you know, I was telling my wife that I really dislike leaving the house.
If it's not going to work, if we're not going to work, if we're not going to a family member's house, my parents, her dad, my sister's place, anything like that, close personal friend's place.
It's really, it causes me angst, I guess is a good word.
And so like I tough through it, right?
Because I it's not, it's not my wife's fault that I struggle with these things.
It's not my wife's fault that I get super anxious about leaving the house nowadays.
So I tough through them and we go.
And usually, more times than not, we get there.
Let's say we're going to dinner, for example, and we get there and we sit down.
And before we're even halfway through our meal, I can't wait to leave the place.
You know, and it's not like my wife's boring.
It's not like our parents or our friends or the people that we're with are boring.
There's just something about it that makes me uneasy.
And it's alarming to me because it's never really happened before.
The whole time I was in the military, I really, you know, crowds were a thing.
They became a thing.
But I still like to go out with friends.
My girlfriend at the time, who's now my wife, spend the night out drinking and carrying on, going places, going to, in Minnesota, the Minnesota State Fair every summer is a huge deal.
Hundreds of thousands of people attend.
There's all kinds of good food.
There's concerts.
It's great sightseeing or people watching, as it were.
It's probably the best place in the country, arguably, for people watching.
There are some pretty amazing specimens that walk through the grounds of the Minnesota State Fair.
So if you've never been here while the fair is going on, it's late, I think it's the last week of August through the first week of September.
Get here.
Check it out if you can.
If you're interested.
I don't think you'll be disappointed.
There's good food, amazing people watching.
In fact, I would reckon that you haven't seen some of the things that you'll see at the stage, even if you're from the South.
So that makes me uneasy.
But the other part of that is, is that, you know, for example, I work for a Harley-Davidson dealership, who has a pretty big booth or storefront, if you will, at the fair.
So when I've been asked to go there for work, yeah, I'll do that.
And I guess my mindset behind that is that the owner of the dealership hires a shuttle.
The shuttle takes us to the gate.
You get out of the van.
You walk two minutes or less to the storefront.
And you spend all day in there selling t-shirts, answering questions about bikes, just saying hi to people who are walking through.
And so it makes me a little uneasy, but at the same time, this is my job.
This is the commitment I made by taking this job.
And I don't have to walk around this place and be amongst all these people.
And last year, in 2021, it was quite a concern just because of all the things going on.
George Floyd had happened, the riots all over the place, Kenosha, Wisconsin, all these things.
Cops killing people, people killing cops, tearing down statues.
We were doing all kinds of crazy stuff in this country.
And it was just a volatile city.
And you could feel it.
You could feel the tension in the St. Paul, Minneapolis area if you were out in a public forum.
You could feel it.
And so that also adds to it.
But what troubles me about it for myself is that I don't have an explanation as to why I feel this way.
Driving on the highways in the city or even on the road, anywhere in the city is extremely frustrating.
I know that road rage is a real thing.
And I've been on the cusp of having some ordeal while driving.
And I don't understand why.
And so all these feelings have been alarming to me.
And so when I was discussing it with my wife the other day, which was actually the night before I had to go the next morning for therapy, she had told me that maybe I should, of course, discuss these things with my therapist, but I should also ask to be medicated.
And so for me, that raised a pretty big red flag because I'm not a person that wants to be medicated in that fashion.
But then I got to thinking about it.
Maybe it's a good idea.
Maybe it's a good idea to be medicated.
And really, she asked me also, what is it that you're afraid of?
What is it that you're nervous about?
Why do you feel uneasy, do you think?
And I don't have a good answer.
I just do.
And so I don't know.
I mean, I'm no expert, right, on PTSD.
I'm no expert on mental health things or mental health disorders.
So I don't have a good explanation.
I don't know how to maybe self-diagnose, which isn't clearly not my job, right?
I'm not, it's not, none of us really should probably self-diagnose ourselves.
But it's alarming because when I think about it, I'm 40 years old, right?
I've been out of the military for less than two years.
February 9th of this year would have been one year.
And already I'm having these issues with not wanting to leave the house, not wanting to do this, not wanting to do that.
And I don't think that my wife signed up for that, right?
So it's something that needs to be addressed.
I need to try to figure it out.
And she's extremely supportive about it.
And so I went the next day and I sat down with my therapist.
And the way I opened the conversation was, I got a problem.
I need your help.
And my next sentence was, my wife thinks I need to be medicated.
And the response I got was, do you think you need to be medicated?
Do you think there's a problem?
Well, yeah, yeah, clearly there's a problem.
And so I guess what I'm trying to say, folks, is that like I'm wondering if anybody else out in the universe is or has had similar feelings or a similar situation.
Because to a certain extent, you know, I think when people go through this type of thing, to a certain extent, you kind of feel like you're alone.
And I don't think that that's probably not the case, but it's sure easy to feel that way.
And so I guess what I'm trying to do here with this platform that I've been given is to just put the information out there and hopefully it sparks conversation.
Maybe somebody who listens to this is having similar feelings or is having similar things going on and they can now start a conversation.
I think that being able to be vulnerable enough to even admit that there's an issue that needs to be talked about is a great first step.
But I don't know where to go from there.
And so I had this an hour-long appointment turned into like an hour and 45 minutes.
And so we discussed just different things and outbursts that I have been having with people both at my job, not as much at my job, but yes, at my job, but like in the grocery store over carrots for Pete's sake, on the roads, in the gas station.
I mean, it just seems like there's so many innocently ignorant, stupid people out roaming about right now.
And I don't understand where it came from because it didn't, I guess I didn't notice it, but it didn't used to be that way.
And if it did, I was oblivious.
But I notice it now.
And I recognize that the problem might be me some way, shape, or form.
And so this is the reason why, a perfect reason why I go every other week to therapy to sit down with a person at the VA hospital that is now, well, my question was, is it anxiety?
Is it PTSD?
Is it residual effects of the TBI that I had being hit by roadside bombs?
What could be causing this?
And the answer that I got was: well, it could be all of it.
It could be a multitude of all those things, plus life stressors and this and that and the other thing.
Well, that's really not the answer I was looking for.
I was hoping to get like, yep, it's this thing.
Here's how we can fix it.
Here's what we need to do.
Here's what you need to do.
Here's what I'm going to do.
We need to give it some time.
And the treatment is this.
And hopefully it'll start to lighten up for you.
But that wasn't what I got.
What I got was a whole lot more complex answer.
So stick with us.
Don't go away.
We'll be right back.
Hey, folks, welcome back.
Before the break, I started to tell you about my most recent therapy appointment in which I was explaining to my doctor about all these feelings I've been having.
Not wanting to leave the house on the road at work.
Anger issues is the way that I kind of label it.
And when she asked me if I thought I had a problem, if I thought that I need to be medicated, it kind of stopped me in my tracks, so to speak.
Because I don't know.
Yes, there is, yes, there is a problem, but I don't know that being medicated is the way to fix it.
And so the analogy she used is she pointed out the window and she said, do you think that those nurses that are outside down on the sidewalk under that tree smoking cigarettes, do you think that they know that it's not good for them?
Well, yeah, of course they know that.
Okay, so then she asked, do you think that they see it as a problem?
I said, well, I guess I don't know.
And she said, well, I believe that the answer is no, they don't see it as a problem or they wouldn't be doing it.
If you know that it's not good for you, but you don't see it as a problem or you're comfortable enough with it that it's not a problem for you, then what's the answer to stop it, right?
Like at some point, you wake up one morning and you say, enough's enough, right?
I'm not going to smoke cigarettes anymore.
Maybe it's because there's some catastrophic thing that happened to you or you don't like the way that you feel in the morning.
Maybe you got like that dry mouth and it tastes like a cat took a dump in your mouth while you were sleeping or whatever the case may be.
So you wake up and you go, ah, it's enough.
I'm done.
I'm going to make the change because there's a problem here.
And so she said, if you don't feel like you need to be medicated, if you don't feel that these issues that you're having are a problem, then they're not a problem.
Or at least not enough of a problem for me to give you some kind of medication and an alternate treatment plan.
And so then I got to thinking about it and I said, well, but it's not, these types of things aren't fair to the people who support me.
My wife, our parents.
It's not fair to the kids that we still have living in this house, even though they're about to be 18.
It's not fair for them.
Right.
So I just choose to usually say nothing about it.
Find a way to tough through it and get through it and go about my day.
But then on the back end, really find a time to enjoy my alone time or whatever the activity or the situation is that doesn't bring me anxiety.
So it's not always alone time.
But, you know, like my wife and I have this nighttime routine about, you know, I really like The Golden Girls, the TV show from the 80s.
Love it.
And I don't know why.
My grandmother used to watch it when I was little.
It was The Golden Girls.
And then my grandpa used to love Benny Hill.
And so I remember the music playing and they run around and, you know, he's doing all kinds of stupid stuff.
And my grandfather would just belly laugh for a whole half an hour or however long that show was.
And so it's not fair to these people, in my opinion, that they have to forego experiences or miss out on things because I'm uncomfortable.
And it got me thinking about, like, in a certain extent, it got me thinking about gender roles, right?
Like recently I've seen on social media, a couple different, and a couple different social media outlets, these videos of people asking men, you know, like, who do you talk to when you feel depressed or you're sad or you're upset or you're this or that, the other thing?
And these guys were saying, well, nobody, right?
I don't, nobody.
Because it doesn't, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter, right?
And so I feel a lot of times the same way.
You know, like my wife is a business owner.
We just lost her mother recently.
You know, one of our kids moved out of the house.
You know, there's just a lot of things happening In our lives.
And so I guess what I feel is if at the end of the day, when we all come together in the house after work and there's all these other issues to talk about, because I don't ever offer up my issues in the beginning of a conversation anyway.
And we spend time addressing these things or talking about them or just listening to what she's got going on.
And it's not every day.
I guess I don't want it to sound like we just are Debbie Downers in our house or there's just a bunch of drama going on because there's not.
I mean, we have really good things happening in our lives.
But when we're talking about things that aren't always so positive, I feel like it's not appropriate for me to just start piling on my things too.
Because I really don't feel like, you know, other than being lending an ear and listening, some of the things that I feel that I have going on, I don't know that she can solve them.
I don't know that there's a whole lot of conversation to be had.
And it's not just my wife, but it's my friends, my co-workers, my bosses, all that things.
Everybody's got things happening.
We live in a world today that is moving so fast.
And there's so much stuff happening that you don't really always have time to address the things that are going on in here, in your chest, or in your mind.
And so I choose to just put it in the backpack.
Like I was telling my therapist, I just put that stuff in a backpack, right?
I carry it around with me.
And then if it comes up again or it falls out of the backpack, then we address it and either we throw it away because it's been dealt with or we put it back in the backpack.
And her response to me was, well, what happens when that backpack becomes so full that you can't move forward any longer?
And I thought, well, I got some pretty damn broad shoulders.
I've never had the backpack stop me from moving forward.
And she goes, are you sure?
Okay, well, now you got me second-guessing myself.
And so the thing that I appreciate about our conversations, the doctor and I, is that she is never shy about calling me on my BS.
And so she goes, she asked me, she said, do you think that it would be helpful if somebody were to tell you, hey, man, I don't want to solve it for you, but I'll just go ahead and you vent, right?
Have a vent session.
I'll listen.
If you want advice, I'll give it to you.
If not, no big deal.
But in the hopes that whoever you're talking to or whatever group of people you're talking to can go, oh my God, I know exactly what you're talking about.
I have the same thing going on or I've been there.
I've done that.
And that may help you to feel better.
But at the core of all of it, you still have to be able to be comfortable with the vulnerability of it all.
And I think that that might be what I struggle with a lot.
Because, you know, coming up in the military, especially with the leadership that I had in the early part of my career, we were kind of raised in the Army to be with the idea that, yeah, just don't worry about it.
We have a mission to do.
Let's get it done.
And we'll worry about that later.
There'll be time for that later.
And I think that you just get so used to that, that tempo, I guess is a good word.
You get so used to that tempo that you forget to come back to it later.
And so then it all builds and builds and builds and builds.
And at some point, there has to be like this release valve.
Like the pressure needs to be released.
And so it comes out one way or another.
And so I don't, I wonder if that's like this huge, this huge valve has been building with pressure.
And now I have these feelings of not wanting to leave the house.
And when I get out, I can't wait to go home.
And so now is the time where it's all just kind of oozing out.
And I would like to think that I'm mentally stronger than that.
I've used the term in the past.
It's probably not very politically correct, but we are on the Stu Peters network after all.
But I struggle with self-labeling myself as a mental midget.
With the idea that we got through, as soldiers, we got through some of the toughest things that we may ever have to deal with.
And up until that point in our lives, for sure, it was probably the toughest thing that we had to deal with.
Actively engaged in combat, dead bodies on the road, just war in general.
Like it's very violent.
It's very fast moving sometimes, sometimes it's extreme boredom.
Kind of like the job Stu and I did as bounty hunters.
Like 85% of it was almost always sheer boredom, right?
You're on a computer on your phone doing research.
You're trying to find information on the defendant you're hunting.
You're running addresses to get tactical layouts, how we're going to approach.
If this is a person that has serious violent felony warrants, and it's just the two of us, and our job is to go kick down this door or find a way to get into this dwelling and search for this person and prepare for conflict and prepare for physical altercation and yelling and screaming and crying and maybe gunshots,
maybe knives, blades, so I mean, we guys with swords, all kinds of stuff.
And so you can't, there's not a whole lot of time to stop and think about it, right?
There's action.
Here's the plan.
Here's what we got to do.
Make a decision and do it.
And the one thing that Stu and I think we're really good at was making a plan, making a decision to execute that plan and executing it.
Sometimes, sometimes a plan could have been better.
But if you stop and think about it, it all is going to go to hell.
So you got to just execute.
And then we can Monday morning quarterback it later.
So put it in the backpack.
We'll come back to it later.
Let's just go do the job.
Get it done.
Don't go away.
We'll be back right after this.
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Before we left the last segment, we were discussing executing, right?
Executing a plan.
Stu and I did that well.
And how that lifestyle of growing up in the military and not having the time to process and deal with the things that trouble you, even if it's a small thing, and not being able to go back to it may be the reason why I feel the way that I feel today.
And So it really makes me think about the differences between members of the military and veterans and how that relates to civilians.
Because I think that there is one thing that is not talked about a lot is just the difference in mindset.
So think about this, if you will.
When you are...
When you join the military, whether it's active duty or a reserve component, and you find yourself, you know, in the last 20-something years being deployed to a forward area, to a combat zone, you are forced to process the idea of your death before you even leave the States.
Right?
Like you go and you take your DOD photo, right?
And if you are a senior NCO, you got to take it all the time anyway for your NCOER packets and all this other stuff.
But before you deploy, you go stand in front of a camera with a dress uniform on.
And this is the picture.
And there's no secrets about it, right?
And I don't think there should be.
But they tell you, make sure that you look good, right?
Make sure that your uniform is squared away.
Make sure that your hat's on right, that you're shaved, that your hair's cut properly to standard.
If you're going to wear a mustache, make sure that's manicured to the standard.
Because should something happen to you and God forbid you pay that ultimate sacrifice, this is the picture that's going to be in the paper.
This is the picture that's going to be on a website.
This is the picture that's going to be on the local news in your hometown while they tell the story of you being lost in combat.
And so that really starts to weigh on your mind, right?
Oh my God, you're right.
I better not look like a soup sandwich, right?
I better make sure my uniform's right.
All this stuff is in order.
And then you have to go through the process of deciding where all your stuff is going to go, right?
Should something happen to you, which I think is a normal thing for everybody, right?
When you start a new job and you're offered life insurance or you buy a new life insurance policy, no matter how old you are, you have to decide where it's all going to go in the event of your death.
Or you do things like my wife and I in the last year or two did our estate plan.
Where is all of our stuff going to go?
Should we die together?
If I go first and she goes second or vice versa, how is all our stuff going to be distributed?
What's going to happen to it all?
So you got to process all that stuff.
But imagine doing that when you're 18, 19, 20, 22 years old.
And then you're asked to write your own obituary.
Should something happen to you, this is what's going to be printed in your obituary.
Who are you leaving behind?
What do you want people to know about you?
You know, make sure you write down your parents, your siblings, if you have them, your kids, your wife, whatever family, friends, or people that are close to you that you want recognized, that you loved, that you held near and dear to your heart.
Because in the event of your death, this is what people are going to read about you.
And so for me, that was the point in which I really started to think long and hard about, holy cow.
You know, because you start thinking about, well, my grandparents are here, my aunt, and my uncles and my sisters.
I had a son at the time.
I was married.
I mean, all these people and all this stuff.
If I'm gone, these are all the people that I loved.
And then for me, when I was doing this activity, I started to think about how all those people would process.
You know, like you have this vision in your mind about, well, well, shit, if something happens to me, I wonder what my funeral is going to look like.
Like, how many people are going to show up?
What are they going to say about me?
Was I an a-hole to this person or that person?
Is that going to come?
I mean, a lot of things in which really, at the end of the day, if you're dead and gone, it doesn't matter because you're dead and gone.
But you really start to think about all those things, or at least I did.
And so just like that process alone and then the whole experience just changes your mindset.
And so if you watch the show regularly, you know that my good friend Jason often comes on to, and we have discussions on here.
And we were talking, we went out to breakfast a couple weeks ago, and we were talking about this exact thing, about the difference in mindset, because it had come up that both of our wives, who never served in the military, but also, you know, like my father-in-law was in the Navy.
Both of my wife's brothers were in the military.
And so like, it's not foreign to her.
But yet we have discussions at times about what's important to us.
And in my house, for instance, we have discussions about slowing down and enjoying the fruits of our labors as best as we can.
Like We still got to go to work.
We still got bills to pay.
The kids still need things.
Our parents need things.
And, you know, like we got a dog that's needy.
He's always on your heels.
I mean, Gus is everywhere, right?
My dog Gus, he just, he doesn't like to be alone, which is good for me because I enjoy the companionship.
But my wife at times, same with Jason, the way he talked about sometimes his wife just doesn't understand his mindset.
And I think that the difference is, at least for me, that I've had this life experience in which the idea of dying and my death is not something that I'm afraid of.
And I don't mean for it to sound like I have some death wish or anything like that.
But when the time comes and the Grim Reaper is knocking on my door, I'm not going to fight them.
When the good Lord comes a call and you answer it and just hope that you've lived your life right.
Hope that you've lived in a way that can be remembered in a positive manner.
And I choose not to go through life being scared of tomorrow.
And I think that my experience in the military has really bred that.
And that's a product of my service.
Because you never know, right?
You never know.
I mean, hell, we might, we might die in our sleep tonight.
Who knows if we'll see Monday morning?
And so I don't want to be, I have this, this vision.
I've had dreams about it before of dying.
You're laying in bed and you take your last breath and then you're floating above your body, right?
Like your spirit or whatever is floating above your body.
And then you have these thoughts about, did I do everything I wanted to do?
Was I...
He's now an old man.
He looks at his wife and says, am I a good man?
And so, like, at times I tend to focus more on that and enjoying the things around me.
You know, if the lawn doesn't get mowed today, it'll get mowed tomorrow.
But if we have the opportunity for me, if I have the opportunity to put my wife on my motorcycle and put a couple hundred miles on, grab lunch, you know, see a couple people, have a conversation, hang out, enjoy the weather, enjoy the countryside, and just and just ride.
Well, I'll mow the grass tomorrow.
And maybe it seems trivial, right?
Maybe it seems small and minute, but in my mind, there's just so many opportunities that could be very easily missed.
And I think that in the conversation between Jason and I, I think that we found that because of the experiences that we've had, even though we weren't there together, we didn't serve together, we served at the same time.
He was a little bit before me, but that's something that our spouses hadn't had to deal with.
And so, and maybe it's the difference between men and women and the way that our brains work.
Who knows?
I'm told all the time that I'm black and white and there's not a whole lot of gray and the world isn't like that.
The world is multicolored.
But I just can't shake the idea that there's a whole lot more to life than there's a whole lot more things in life to enjoy, but they're extremely easy to miss.
And so I don't want to be that spirit floating above my body at some point saying, man, I really wish that I would have spent more time with my wife, or I really wish that I would have saw this or went there or did this or did that.
Because that's what is going to be remembered, right?
The people in which you share experiences with and the people in which you build relationships and bonds with, that's what's going to be remembered.
And I don't want to do all those things being scared of what's going to happen tomorrow or the next day or next year or five years from now.
Having a plan, of course, is good and a goal to work towards.
But I don't don't miss.
Don't miss and don't pass up the opportunities to make memories.
Those are more important.
More important than money, more important than tangible physical objects, all those things, because when we're dead and gone, those are the things in which we are going to be remembered by.
And that's what's really important, if you ask me.
How does this all relate?
Well, I guess I'm not really quite sure, but these are the feelings in which I have.
These are the things I talk to my therapist about.
And sometimes I wonder if she knows or thinks that I know what I'm talking about.
Maybe not.
But don't go anywhere.
Stick with us.
We'll be back.
Hey, everybody, welcome back here for the last segment.
Before we took a break, we were just talking about memories, making memories.
Don't pass up those opportunities because that is, in my opinion, what is important.
I'm a big believer in the idea that legacy, your legacy is something that you should feel like you're going to be, like you would be proud of.
When it's time to move on to the next stage, when you're dead and gone, your legacy is something that, at least for me, it's what I think about, right?
Like I was saying that I'm not, I don't live my life scared of death.
I don't live my life scared of what's going to happen five days from now.
I'm concerned about what's going to happen today and how can I get through the day and live right, be good to people, have some integrity, and just do the right thing.
And of course, at times, I think that all of us, I know for sure sometimes I fall short, right?
Sometimes I don't get everything accomplished that I look to do.
You know, there's all kinds of failures in life.
But I think that overall, there's things to be celebrated, right?
At least, in my opinion, for me, I think that 95% of my time is spent living my life the right way.
But we all fail.
We all have shortcomings.
And so I guess where I'm trying to go with all of this is that the human experience, as it relates to those of us who have served in the military, is so, in many ways, is so very different than how civilians get through and walk through life.
There also is a lot of similarities, I think.
But, you know, like I was talking about mindset.
I think that our mindset is just different because of the experiences that we had in the service and the things that are required of you to get through that time.
I mean, if you're a person, at least in the units that I served in, if you were a person who took it all so very seriously all the time, your experience was probably not positive.
I think that where I, in particular, but a lot of us found comfort in our service was by not taking life so seriously.
I mean, we would joke about things, you know, like we would leave on missions, right?
When we were in Iraq, we would leave on mission and we would bet a dollar.
Everybody put a dollar in the pot and we would guess who was going to who was going to get bouncy legs, right?
Because a roadside bomb might go off and you're going to lose a leg.
Dark humor, yes.
But if you sat and dwelled on all the negative things that could happen to you, you would go absolutely nuts.
And so I think that we found a way to cope.
And some dark humor.
We discussed a lot of things that will not be discussed on this show because it's not appropriate.
But you find a way to deal.
You find a way to get through.
And unfortunately, sometimes some of those things that you put in the backpack to come back to later to process, they don't get unpacked.
And they don't fall out of the backpack for you to come back and process them.
And you don't go back digging through the bag to look for negative things to process and discuss and work out.
And so maybe, maybe that's why I have the things going on that I do.
And so maybe that's one of the shortcomings in which I have that now my service is over.
And some of the things and outlets that I had maybe aren't there because I don't put on a uniform anymore.
I don't know that I would be within the standard anyway right now.
I've kind of put on a few pounds.
But I hope that those are things in which I can identify through further conversation and things that I can process and not have to put back in the bag, but just leave them wherever they fall.
Because I think that, as I was saying before, like I don't believe that it's fair to the people that I'm close to.
And I recognize that there are things, like my wife, for example, right?
Like it's not like she was blind coming into this relationship, into this marriage.
She knew full well some of the issues I had.
And I do talk to her about things when they seem to be spinning out of control and they get to be a little more serious than maybe they should.
For example, the last time I was contemplating suicide, I went in to our bedroom and I told her.
I told her what was going on.
I told her how I was feeling and I told her why I was upset.
And so things like that are ways to kind of alleviate some of the heaviness maybe that we as veterans feel at times.
But at the end of the day, it almost seems like an inherent quality, if you want to call it that.
It's hard to explain.
There's so many things to deal with.
And when you are back to these gender roles, right?
Like when you are a man and your job is to see to the happiness of your wife and see to the safety and security of your kids and your spouse and your household and make sure that everybody and everything is safe and everyone's okay.
You run out of capacity maybe or time or the ability to address the things that are going on in your own world.
And quite honestly, I think that sometimes we as men, especially men who are veterans, we find comfort in being able to kind of push those things to the side, so to speak, and still be able to continue the mission.
We can push it aside and Charlie might keep going.
And I'll be honest, I think it's sometimes that it's a skill more than it is a hindrance to the way that I walk through my life.
And so now that I'm having these issues and this uneasy feeling, I wonder if that's just like residual BS that's coming up because I've done a really good job at what some would call avoidance and pushing those things aside and not coming back to them and not addressing them in whatever outlet would have been best.
And so I guess the message that I want to send is that if you are listening to this or you are watching this and you have and I think I said earlier in the show that it's easy to feel like you're alone.
And I think that we all know and I know full well that I'm not alone, right?
This is probably not something that's super abnormal.
This is not something that there is no support for.
But if this is you or something similar to what you got going on, just know that it's okay.
I think that it's okay to have this type of thing going on.
What would not be okay is to now again shove it in the backpack.
Because if it is hindering your life in such that it's extremely prevalent to you and noticeable and you can pick out specific times or things in which you avoid or things in which are stopping your progression, so to speak, it needs to be addressed.
And I know that a lot of people always talk about that there's, hey, there is a stigma, but understand that the stereotype isn't true across all people, right?
Like people understand that, you know, people will say, well, it's okay for men to cry, and it's okay for men to wear their feelings on their sleeves and this and that and the other thing.
Well, yeah, I agree.
It's all right.
But it doesn't make it easy to do because, like I've said before, everybody, in fact, I would challenge you to find a person who doesn't have some drama or some BS going on in their life that isn't, you know, that is a contributing member of society that works a job.
You know, like, you know, there's folks in nursing homes and we have handicapped folks who, you know, maybe don't have the mental capacity to have drama.
Like there's, there's those situations going on.
But most people, just about all people have something going on in which they need to process and which they need to deal with.
And it's really easy to put your things on the back burner because not only is it inherent in me anyway to try to solve the problems of the people I love, but it's also really easy to go, I'll deal with that later.
With the idea that you don't really necessarily have to deal with, do we really have to deal with it?
I don't know that we really have to.
So have those conversations.
Be vulnerable.
For a lot of us, just because because we are veterans now and we're not serving in the military like I understand that our commitment doesn't end right at least that's how I see it my commitment to defend this place doesn't end Like I still I still live up to it the best that I can.
But we don't have to do that backpack thing anymore and it's okay to not do that.
It's okay to be vulnerable.
It's okay to have discussions.
It's okay to address the things in which are troubling you.
I know that it's a whole lot harder said or a lot easier said than done.
It's a whole lot harder to actually do it.
And that's where I'm at right now trying to figure out how to swallow some damn pride and just do it.
And I'm going to keep trying, of course, because I owe it to my wife.
I owe it to my kids.
I owe it to my family.
I owe it to my coworkers, to my friends, to my dog, Gus.
I owe it to him.
I owe it to everybody to at least keep on keeping on.
Because at the end of the day, my legacy is important to me.
The things in which people will talk about when I'm dead and gone is important to me.
So I hope it's important to you.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll see you again next week.
We'll see you next week.
As Christians in a Christian country, we have a right to be at minimum agnostic about the leadership being all Jewishly occupied.
We literally should be at war with fucking Israel a hundred times over and instead we're just sending them money and it's fucking craziness.
Look at the state of Israel.
Look at the state of Tel Aviv and look at the state of Philadelphia.
You tell me where this money's going.
You tell me who's benefiting from this.
I am prepared to die in the battle fighting this monstrosity that would wish to enslave me and my family and steal away any rights to my property and to take away my God.
Go fuck yourself.
Will I submit to that?
And if you've got a foreign state, you've got dual citizens in your government, who do you think they're supporting?
God, right now, would you protect the nation of Israel and protect those of us, not just our church, but every church in the world and in this nation that willing to put the neck of the mind and say, we can't miss it?
We stay with you.
You can look at Trump's cabinet.
You can look at Biden's cabinet.
Jews I have a black friend in school.
I have nothing against blacks.
She has nothing against me.
She understands where I'm coming from.
Excuse me, I'm a Jew, and I'd just like to say that, you know, in our Bible, it says that you're like animals.
The Jews crucified our God.
The Jews crucified our God.
Here on the break, folks, we're going to talk about mushrooms.
What do you know about mushrooms?
Specifically, Coriolis versicolor mushrooms.
Well, I don't know a whole lot, but I have some friends here that do.
So I want to introduce you to Kurt and Kristen Ludlow.
Hello, folks.
How are you?
Great.
How are you doing?
Very good.
We have limited time.
I don't want you to feel rushed, but I'd like you to tell us quickly about Coriolis versicolor mushrooms and this breakthrough that seemingly not a whole lot of people have been informed about or know about, but we're here to change that.
So help us out.
What do you know?
Absolutely.
Well, let me give you some background real quick on it and how we got our hands on it.
First and foremost, one of our partners here at the company, his mother was dealing with a very severe issue that affected her lung.
She was attending Sloan Kettering.
That issue ended up getting worse.
They tried everything medically they could to resolve it.
Nothing worked.
And so they gave her two months to live.
He started reaching out to friends and family regarding her circumstances.
And her cousin or her nephew out in Japan reached back and said, look, I have something.
It's just in a capsule form.
It's a mushroom.
We have a proprietary way we extract it.
You know, he was talking to her son, his cousin, and said, why don't you have your mom try it and just see if this might help her out in any way?
And so she started taking it.
And after 30 days, she noticed quite a considerable difference in the way she's feeling.
Month two went by, more improvement.
Month three, she's feeling as if there's no issues whatsoever.
And she goes back to Sloan Kettering.
Sure enough, they run lab work on her and find that condition to no longer be there.
And so they were flabric acid.
They wanted to know what she was doing.
And of course, she was able to reach out to her nephew and bring all the information that they requested to them.
And that's where the first clinical study started here in the United States.
And from there, MD Anderson started studying it, the American Cancer Society, Loma Linda, Harvard.
It's been published in the Library of Medicine many times.
And today there's hundreds of studies on this mushroom.
And what they concluded was that it didn't cure it, didn't mitigate it, it didn't prevent anything, but specifically it would modulate the immune system and get it working optimally again.
And if we can get our immune system working optimally again, I think you can agree that it's the best way to resolve any type of issue that we might be dealing with because that's what it's designed to do.
And so for years, you know, if that happened to your mother, our partner Simon could not keep from telling anyone that would listen to him about it.
And he started getting all types of reports back from different people with all kinds of different things that they were dealing with, that they were noticing some great results with it.
And it wasn't just for sick, you know, people.
It was for people that didn't want to get sick, that wanted to be proactive versus reactive.
And, you know, many great things that people were saying with renewed energy, feeling younger, sleeping better, things like that.
And so, eight years ago, what ended up happening is one of our partners, aside from Simon, Steve, he lost a dog due to cancer.
Within two months, Gino, our other partner, also lost a dog due to cancer and two of their children.
And so they were sitting around looking into it.
And the dogs are all between the ages of four and eight.
They were young and they weren't happy about it.
And here they had this mushroom that, you know, they'd been getting out to people for years as well as us.
And they thought to themselves, wow, I wonder if this is safe for animals.
And sure enough, they found a study done by the University of Pennsylvania declaring that dogs that were taking this product were living three times as long as the dogs that weren't that had a very aggressive form of cancer.
And so at that point, that's where Pet Club 24-7 was born because they knew that they had an incredible strain.
And here's what they found out, Richard, is 65% of our pets are getting cancer today.
One in three allergies, 6 million new cases of diabetes are going on.
They're medicating them with human medications.
And our pets are living half as long as they used to.
In the 70s, the average age of a golden retriever was 17.
Today, that average age is 9.
And they wanted to do something about it.
So they added this mushroom into incredibly well-put-together products with no bad ingredients because what they found and why these conditions were happening was it came down to like our humans.
You know, it's the foods, treats, and toys they're eating.
The regulations are very loose and it's causing all types of issues as a result of that, on top of all the other things that are going on.
And that's where the company was born.
And that's where we are today.
That's a beautiful story.
I think that there are so many people that are looking for something that's not from the mainstream, not from big pharma or whatever the case may be.
I mean, we all have these stories, right, about grandma's old home remedies.
And I'll tell you what, I'm super interested in this because I have a dog.
His name is Gus.
He's a Burma doodle.
He's five or six years old.
He was supposed to be a mini.
He's now a 108-pound lap dog.
And he does struggle with some hip issues only at five or six years old.
And he also has these subdermal, almost acne-like bumps on his skin or along his back and his side.
And so as you're explaining all this, I'm thinking about Gus and I'm thinking, man, we need to get him these mushrooms.
I also think about veterans, right, who have service animals and they get super attached.
And I know a few that have been through two and are on their third dog now.
And it's a real struggle for some of these guys because the training's long.
They get super attached.
They take these pets everywhere.
And so this type of product, the mushroom, I think would be perfect for the veteran community as well.
Do you guys see veterans or law enforcement or anything like that?
Do people use them for these pets as well on top of some other supplements or anything else that might be out there on the market?
Absolutely.
Because regardless of what our pets are going through or even what they might potentially have to go through, their immune system is always going to be their first, their best bet, right?
It's intelligently designed to handle everything in the body, repair, recover, rebuild, regulate, renew, rebalance everything that's happening inside of the body.
So especially therapeutic dogs or dogs that are trained to do jobs where they have to focus and they have to have stamina and endurance.
And we have spent a lot of time and resources training them.
It's very important that we're not only keeping them with us longer, but that they actually have a good quality of life during those years.
And so that's why we say every pet, every person every day should be getting this Coriolis versicolor mushroom into their system.
We've been so blessed.
God has given us a really pure and potent strain of this mushroom and we've perfected the extraction process.
So that's why we're seeing such positive results relatively quickly from anything that you can think of with dogs, cats, horses, even people.
It's just been absolutely amazing.
And we just want to be good stewards with what we've been given and take good care of it and be a part of restoring creation.
So especially in those conditions, we encourage you to get your pet on the Coriolis versus Color mushroom.
Or if you're a veteran yourself and maybe you've been through some trauma and your body's been through a lot mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, let's get this mushroom into your system so that you can get that support that you need to really be able to recover from the inside out.
Well, and it makes a lot of sense to me, right?
I mean, let's get our immune systems working as our creator intended it to, instead of feeding it all this other junk and who, God knows what they give us in pill form and our food and all that other stuff these days.
So this is actually a very refreshing conversation that we're having because it doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of things out there that are holistic and are natural to help us feel better.
Explain to us, we got a couple minutes left, why Pet Club 24-7?
Why is it put out as a club?
I think that this is an important thing to touch on.
Yeah, it was really important to us.
We feel very called to do what we're doing, and we know that we're able to offer the world a gift.
And so we never really wanted to build a company.
We want to build a community.
That's the idea behind it is that if we stand up together and lock arms, change the way that we're doing things so that we can get different results and educate each other, make each other aware, connect each other with better solutions and better options that are going to give us better results and that are a lot more affordable in many cases.
You know, we Believe that this community can truly change the way that pets and people are being treated just by being a voice for those that don't have one.
So that's why the name of the company is Pet Club 24-7 is because we want to be a community of people that are solution-oriented, that do something about it, that don't wait for other people to fix our problems or solve what's going on, that we just stand up, control what we can control, and contribute how we can contribute through this community.
That's beautiful.
See, folks, here at the Stu Peters Network, we're here to help you feel better.
We're so thankful that you guys are here, Pet Club 24-7.
Kurt and Christine, we're very happy to have you.
Thank you for everything that you've done, bringing this stuff out to people.
Let's get healthy again.
What was the movement that you talked about, Kurt?
I said, you know, we have the Maha movement.
And we also have it here for our animals, make animals healthy again.
Absolutely.
We're not applying to do so, just like on the human side.
And people can count on the fact that there's no bad ingredients in our products.
Everything made in human, great whole food commercial kitchens, all sourced from the U.S. and made right here in the U.S. Very important.
Well, Kurt, Kristen, thank you very much for being here.
Folks, Pet Club 24-7, make sure you get there.
Get your supplies of mushrooms, not just for you, but for your pets, dog, cats, horses, all those things.
Pet Club 24-7, guys, thank you very much for being here.
Let's connect soon.
I'm going to get my supply and I'm going to report back for me and Gus to make sure that we do this full circle conversation.
I'm super excited to talk to you guys again.
We'll see you very soon.
Thank you.
Thank you, Richard.
All right, bye-bye.
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They're like our children.
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