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May 28, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Warmongers Push NATO Toward War with Russia — Who’s Briefing Trump?
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Thanks so much for being with us.
My name is Paul Harrell, and this is the Millstone Report.
As always, we can't do the program without you watching every single day.
We really do appreciate it.
So, yeah, it's been a while.
It's crazy.
We had the Memorial Day weekend.
I took a few days off.
One day more than I expected to because I was delayed by some really bad weather that was just sweeping across the southeast, I guess.
But it's good to be back.
And I was looking at some of the headlines, you know, my set, my program, you know, it stays the way I left it.
And so I was looking at some of the stuff we were covering, kind of refreshing my memory right before I left.
I guess that would have been on a Wednesday.
So I've been gone for a week now.
We were talking about how Europe...
They're trying to prop up their corrupt financial system.
We talked about that Martin Armstrong article talking about how this was one of the plans going back a long time.
And he even said that's why James Comey threw him in prison or kept him there for seven years over contempt of court.
Anyway, it's fascinating what's happened over the last several days.
Right now, what we're witnessing is the mainstream media and people like Senator Lindsey Graham.
By the way, we're talking to his primary opponent, Mark Lynch, either tomorrow or sometime this next.
Soon, we're going to be having Mark Lynch back on the program, who's a very brave man for challenging Lindsey Graham.
But yeah, it's fascinating.
People are pushing for war.
The mainstream media, the Wall Street Journal, they're all now saying because Putin has gone on an offensive, which that's how it's being described.
They're leaving out the key detail of Ukrainian drones.
NATO-backed Ukrainian drone strikes that almost, according to reports, assassinated Vladimir Putin.
And so this is a tit-for-tat.
And all of this is happening in the background of supposed peace or trying to get these people to the table.
But as I told you on Wednesday of last week, the bottom line for me is...
Oh, wait a second.
Today is The bottom line for me is, you know, if you're Vladimir Putin, your cards only get better the more you advance at this point.
The idea that the war is supposed to stop because they're talking about peace.
I don't know any military person that would say, and I'm not a military person, but But NATO wants this war, and so they sent this massive drone strike into a fleet of helicopters, one of them apparently carrying Vladimir Putin.
And so in response, according to what I've read, Vladimir Putin then launches an attack on drone factories in Ukraine.
According to some reports, civilians were killed.
And the war goes on.
Donald Trump has responded to this in a post over on Truth Social, saying that Vladimir Putin is essentially an office rocker for doing this, and he doesn't really know what's going on.
But he even says, hey, if it wasn't for me, a lot of worse things would have already happened.
The war would have already essentially kicked off in Russia if it wasn't for me.
So very, very odd situation.
But one of the most curious parts of all of this was, Donald Trump didn't know about it.
The media knew about it.
You and I, if you're on X or any, we knew about it.
But the President of the United States didn't know about it when asked by the media.
So the question comes up, who is briefing President Trump about the situation in Ukraine?
Are there any Mike Pompeo disciples left in the Trump administration?
That's a very good question.
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MSM warmongers want a war with Russia.
They want this Russian war to kick off.
Now, I feel like to set a kind of a backdrop here, before we talk any more about You're going to hear, as we did when the Ukraine-Russia war kicked off, when Russia invaded Ukraine, when everybody said this was an unprovoked war.
The media, in lockstep across the West, this was an unprovoked war.
That's very much how you know or at least can suspect that it was a provoked war.
But we want to talk about this, I think, in the context of...
Hmm.
What is NATO?
Like, when we talk about NATO, and I've said it many times, NATO was created to protect Christian Europe from the godless communist Soviets.
And the question that we ask on this show quite frequently, who are the godless communist Soviets today?
So as we talk about this, I think it's good to know this...
The United Kingdom has fallen.
Lives of TikTok.
Hodge twins saying stop all aid to the United Kingdom.
This headline from the Daily Mail.
Mother Lucy Connolly jailed over quote racist end quote Southport tweet.
Loses her appeal and faces another two years left on her prison sentence.
Let's remember that they are jailing mothers in the United Kingdom over social media posts.
She talked about mass deportations.
It doesn't even matter.
They're absolutely tyrants over there across the pond.
When you hear people like Lindsey Graham, or when you hear talk radio hosts like Mark Levin start talking about Russia, they're going to naturally talk in terms of 1980s, Red Dawn, Rocky number four, and...
And those are just simply not the stakes anymore.
That's not what is going on right now.
Europe has become godless now.
They have become like the Soviets they were trying to protect themselves from.
And we see the fruits jailing people over social media posts in the United Kingdom.
We see this in Germany.
We see this other places across Europe.
So it's important.
To take that into consideration as we talk about this war between Ukraine and Russia and the interest that I think average Americans have, maybe not elites, maybe not people like Lindsey Graham, in ending the war.
It is in our best interest to have peace in the world.
And I tweeted this the other day when I was talking about this.
It seems likely that peace in the Middle East is way more likely if there's peace between Ukraine and Russia.
Marco Rubio, Donald Trump saying they want to normalize relations with Russia.
This was before this big mainstream media push, before Putin's retaliatory attack after he almost was killed, according to reports.
Again, we have to say that because I can only tell you what I'm reading, and that's why we say according to reports.
But this was the telegraph.
Putin's helicopter fended off drone attack.
Russian leaders' recent visit to Kursk region drew fire from Ukrainian drones.
It emerges.
Okay, so in response to that, we've had a flurry of news articles.
Alex Jones did a show on it.
NATO even claimed there was, I think, a now-debunked fake news piece where NATO's claiming that Trump has now approved long-range missile attacks inside of Russia.
Which, by the way, I think that had already happened.
I was watching the good folks over at Redacted, and this is kind of old news that's being recycled to push for the war.
Vladimir Putin responding to this, saying, if the decision to permit long-range artillery strikes deep inside Russia territory is taken.
It will mean nothing other than the direct participation of NATO countries, the United States, and Europe in the war in Ukraine.
This, of course, will fundamentally change the nature of the conflict.
It will mean that NATO countries are at war with Russia.
That is Vladimir Putin's stance on that.
Somebody on X named Leonid Rogozin.
Putin responds to Ukrainian drone attacks, including one that allegedly targeted his own helicopter.
And another one against a microchip factory by massive missile and drone strikes that result in a number of civilian casualties on top of the destroyed infrastructure.
And so here we have the president being asked about this whole situation.
And this is what it sounded like.
Can I follow up on that?
A Russian commander reportedly said that Putin was almost caught in the middle of a drone attack from Ukraine.
I haven't heard that, but maybe that would be a reason.
I don't know, but I have not heard that.
So, the reporter had heard that.
I had heard that.
Many of you out there, if you're a newshound like me, you'd heard that.
The President of the United States hadn't heard that.
Yeah, maybe that is the reason.
Maybe that is the reason that he ramped up.
Of course, the media takes the attacks against Ukrainian infrastructure, the attacks against the drone factories, and they say, you know, Russia doesn't want peace.
And so now we have this Rocky IV Red Dawn fear.
Interestingly enough, this was a Mike Pompeo tweet that is now gone.
I know X has been having some problems, so I don't know if Mike Pompeo deleted it, but Mike Pompeo linked to this Wall Street Journal article headline, Trump weighs sanctions against Russia as relationship with Putin sours.
The exact tweet, because I can still see it in my bookmarks, Pompeo actually said, quote, making Putin pay a price for his aggression is the fastest way to end this war.
Mike Pompeo, who was famously dismissed from having any chance of being back in the Trump administration, the Trump administration 2.0.
So you see the media here.
Trump weighs sanctions against Russia as a relationship with Putin.
Sowers president expresses frustration over new attacks in Ukraine and slow of peace talks.
But again, when he says this, When he says this, Wall Street Journal, to my knowledge, doesn't point out that Trump didn't know about the alleged assassination attempt from Ukraine, from NATO-backed drones against President Putin.
Something to think about.
Douglas McGregor, who has consistently been a voice of sanity throughout the Ukraine-Russia war, He writes,
Then you have people like Lindsey Graham, as I mentioned earlier.
I appreciate all that President Trump has done, he writes, to try to end this terrible war.
But to end any war, you must have willing partners.
As of yet, Putin is not willing.
As to Putin, we must remember, this is the man who facilitated...
Do we want to just ignore Zelensky's attitude?
You have to have willing partners.
Zelensky is not a willing partner.
I think one of the reasons is because he knows his very life is in danger, just like, uh, He says, as to Putin, we must remember that this is the man who facilitated the Assad regime in dropping barrel bombs from helicopters on innocent civilians and intentionally targeting hospitals in Syria.
The same barbaric behavior is playing out in Ukraine.
To the Russian people, Putin is leading you into the abyss.
So he's wanting regime change.
Okay, Lindsey Graham here wanting regime change, which is absolutely crazy because none of us even know, by the way.
I'm sure the U.S. would try to control who would take Putin's place.
But the devil you know might be a lot better than the devil you do know.
So this is what Trump tweeted or put on Truth Social.
What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia.
And I mean really bad.
He's playing with fire.
I don't know, man.
I think the idea of World War III is playing with fire.
And Zelensky doesn't want peace.
And again, no mention of this.
And I looked on his social media post to see if he had mentioned anything about a potential drone strike, a hit on Vladimir Putin.
Didn't see anything as of this broadcast.
And I wrote this in response to that.
Well, see, I wrote something else.
Maybe it was on Truth Social.
Why did Trump hear of NATO's assassination attempt against Putin from the media and not his advisor?
Yeah.
But something interesting happens.
I guess this was around the time of that Oval Office meeting or right after the Oval Office meeting with Zelensky.
If you'll remember, there were reports that the United States had cut off access to United States intel, which essentially...
And this was a big, it was reportedly, oh, this was a big deal.
My question is this.
Did that actually happen?
When Donald Trump cut off access from the Ukraine for a time of getting U.S. intel briefings, was that order, was that executive order followed?
And if for some reason it wasn't followed, and I think there's a very good chance that it wasn't, if it wasn't followed, what kind of signal does that send to Russia in terms of the idea that the President of the United States actually has control of the country and the intel oligarchy?
Just food for thought.
I could be wrong.
We've actually got this Redacted video.
I was watching the good folks on Redacted saying that when that happened, they weren't able to fire a gun.
Maybe that's true.
It seems like I read something else where there was reports that maybe that didn't actually happen.
Maybe when Trump said cut their intel off, it didn't actually get cut off.
something to think about in all of this.
When you want to stop a war, Mark Levin reminding us of our 1980s fear of the godless communist Soviets.
Reagan, he writes, used our economic power to cause the collapse of the Soviet Union.
We can do the same to Putin's regime.
So they want more sanctions.
Despite the fact that we tried this during the Biden administration, The Russian economy seemed to be resilient and also was just driven further into the arms of China.
And actually, you know, from what I can tell, they did okay.
And this is the difference between normalizing relations with Russia, which is what Rubio has said, what Trump has said.
They want to happen.
They want to trade.
It was just the other week that Trump was...
All of this happens after Trump's amazing two-hour phone call with Vladimir Putin, by the way.
They have an incredible phone call.
It's reported.
The Russian president's pleased with it.
He appreciates how frank Trump was.
Trump says it was a very good call.
And then NATO back...
But this is NATO, and it goes back to my reporting last week about how Europe needs NATO.
They need the wealth.
They need the mineral wealth under the ground in Russia.
Their economies are contracting right now.
They have leaders that actually don't represent the people.
The money laundering scheme of Ukraine that was, I think, being kicked back through NGOs to American politicians.
But I think it goes to European politicians as well.
and I actually think it's going to help rig elections as well.
I think that money is also used to do So I was gone for five days.
you know i i was uh on a little vacation uh enjoying the family and so i didn't really get all i i didn't i wasn't looking at the news as much as i do so this video uh last night as i was doing some show prep uh Clayton Morris, Natalie Morris from Redacted, this YouTube video covering some of this.
Just take a listen.
It's happening in Russia as President Putin is pulling off his gloves.
Meanwhile, President Trump doesn't seem to know what's going on here, making really like odd threats.
And he just posted this a few hours ago on Truth Social.
What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is if it weren't for me, lots of really bad things would have already happened to Russia.
And I mean really bad.
He's playing with fire.
Medvedev just responded and said the only person playing with fire right now is basically NATO, and you're basically playing with World War III at this moment.
Clayton Morris is exactly right.
We are playing with World War III.
Colonel Douglas McGregor seems to have said that Donald Trump, one of the...
But that would have forced a peace immediately.
Instead, it just goes on.
It's like we want peace, and yet we're still...
Again, what signal does that send that we really want peace?
So this is a big deal.
And then they also reacted to, I think I timestamped this one, they also reacted to this very odd moment where, He learns of it from a journalist.
To all of this, when he was asked about the attacks inside Ukraine, the large-scale attacks inside of Ukraine, he said Putin had gone crazy and he didn't understand what he was doing.
Watch.
I don't know what the hell happened to Putin.
I've known him a long time.
Always gotten along with him.
He's killing a lot of people.
I don't know what's wrong with him.
What the hell happened?
What the hell happened?
Did Putin go crazy, decided one afternoon that he'd like to destroy a drone factory?
The very same drone factory responsible for the drones that were just sent to try to assassinate him inside of Russia?
It's just a random thought.
He's gone crazy.
Or did NATO just try to kill him?
And that's exactly what happened.
So when Trump was pressed on this by reporters, he didn't seem to know what they were talking about.
He didn't know that...
So were advisors kept back from Trump and weren't able to tell him the truth of this?
Watch.
Can I follow up on that?
A Russian commander reportedly said that Putin was almost caught in the middle of a drone attack from Ukraine.
I don't know, but I have not heard that.
Why?
It's incredible.
It really is.
I haven't heard that.
Where is Tulsi Gabbard?
That was my first thought.
She's the director of national intelligence.
Everything should come through her.
She's the one that's supposed to be doing the presidential daily briefings.
What exactly is going on?
Now, keep in mind that this has all happened.
Under the context of Mike Waltz being put out to pasture of the United Nations, that's facing bankruptcy.
And he clearly wanted war with Iran.
And again, my question has been throughout this whole ordeal, how do you have peace with Russia and normalize relations with Russia, as is the stated goal many times of the administration, and then go to war with Iran?
I don't think you can do that, because Iran obviously is a proxy of Russia.
So it's a very, very complicated situation, and I think these two conflicts in the Middle East, or potential conflicts, are linked.
You have peace, one, and I think there's a very good case to be made that the warmongers who want war with Iran know And have a vested interest that if peace talks with Ukraine and Russia break down and the war goes on, that they have a very good chance at starting another war with Iran.
Now, obviously, this would fly in the face of much of what MAGA voted for.
That was my number one reason for voting for Donald Trump.
I don't want to get involved in any more foreign entanglements.
I want to decrease those.
I certainly don't want any new wars.
And I don't want more American soldiers dead in the Middle East.
I want peace.
That was one of the main reasons.
And I see this foreign policy for what it is.
My entire life has just been a complete failure for the actual Americans that live here.
But it's been great for foreign policy, you know, warmongers who never really have to answer.
It actually works out financially great for them.
So I wanted that to be over, and I know many of you did too.
And again, what does this also say, what would this also say about Donald Trump's legacy as well?
If Donald Trump gets sucked in to a war with Russia, a NATO-backed war with Russia, or a war with Iran, I think it will 100% tarnish his legacy forever.
Because it's one of the key distinctions, his allergy, his aversion to going to war, him wanting to negotiate a deal with Iran, him wanting to end this conflict between Iran and Russia.
I'm sorry, Russia and Ukraine.
But we will see.
Here's some more from Douglas McGregor.
He says Putin has taken a position that all I really have to do is be patient and continue to advance.
He has the absolute support of his population.
Russia is very cohesive.
The complete opposite of the West right now.
Regardless of your feelings on their nation, they know what they are about.
They know what their interests are, and we do not.
So fundamentally, the Western oligarchy, the intel oligarchy, their interests are preserving their own power, their corrupt financial system.
Their interests are not the American people when it comes to war.
We are seen as livestock to them.
We are seen as expendable to them.
just like the Ukrainians are seen as expendable by the Russian oligarchs and people in the Biden administration, and now I think some in the Trump administration.
Trump's the only one who has actually said, hey man, there's a lot of people dying every week, Ukrainians and Russians alike.
We need to stop that.
and it's been an encouraging sentiment, but the rubber's got to meet the road.
And if you really want peace, I'm sorry.
A clandestine who has followed this war very closely on his ex-account, he says, I've got no idea what's going on.
I can't tell if this is political theater to create distance or some sort of real disagreement.
It sounds like Trump has not been briefed on the Ukrainian drone attacks, on civilians, or recent alleged attempts on Putin's life.
Something is up.
Again, who is briefing Donald Trump?
You see that in the post here on Ex-American News.
Who is briefing Donald Trump right now about the situation in Eastern Europe?
Another Douglas McGregor tweet.
This was from May 26th, two days ago.
NATO is dead, is a dead man walking, and the EU is crumbling.
The European people do not want to be ruled by Brussels or the globalists in charge.
The challenge is getting rid of these people.
Can it be done without revolution?
I don't know at this point.
McGregor famously, or at least to me famously, and we got to interview him last year one time before the election.
I don't remember exactly when that was, but it was before the election last year.
But he famously said, in my mind, in the lead-up to the presidential election, that America is facing a revolution, a Cromwellian revolution or a French-style revolution.
And I have said, and I still continue to say, that if those are my only two choices, I'll take the Cromwellian revolution over the French revolution any single day.
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So, Jordan Peterson.
This was a story that I did follow over the weekend.
So there's this YouTube channel where they want Christians to debate atheists.
And so apparently the video was titled Christian Debates 20 Atheists.
But there's just a little problem with that.
There's just a little problem with that title.
Look at this.
Jordan Peterson got so cooked, they had to change the title of the video.
The original title, One Christian vs.
20 Atheists.
It's now Jordan Peterson vs.
20 Atheists.
Now, why would that be?
Why would they do that?
Well, it had to do just a little bit.
Why is that relevant?
Because you go to a Catholic church, don't you?
You've attended recently.
You're interested in Catholicism, aren't you?
Sure.
All right.
Are you familiar with their doctrines?
Somewhat.
Okay, you're familiar.
Their doctrines are very deep.
How do they regard Mary?
Why are you asking me that?
Because you're a Christian.
You say that.
I haven't claimed that.
Oh, what is this?
Is this Christians versus atheists?
I don't know.
You don't know where you are right now.
Don't be a smartass.
Well, either you're a Christian or you're not.
I won't talk to you if you're a smartass.
Either you're a Christian or you're not.
Which one is it?
I could be either of them, but I don't have to tell you.
You don't have to tell me.
I was under the impression I was invited to talk to a Christian.
Am I not talking to a Christian?
No, you were invited to.
I think everyone should look at the title You're really quite something you are.
Aren't I?
But you're really quite nothing.
Right, you're not a Christian.
Okay, I'm done with him.
Ha ha ha ha.
Thank you.
That's pretty incredible.
I'm reminded of the verse, if you deny me before men, I will deny you before the Father.
Peterson has very much been marketed as a Christian here and there.
And don't get me wrong, back in the day, I really enjoyed his talks.
I thought it was good.
And I thought Jordan Peterson was...
Many people pray for Jordan Peterson.
Many people need to continue to pray for Jordan Peterson.
But it does really go to show that if you don't actually stand for something, then you're not anything.
I mean, that atheist there is correct on that point.
So, yeah, it was one Christian, but then they changed the title because Jordan Peterson refuses to identify as a Christian.
There was this other exchange that, let's see, Chief Trumpster says, but I had breakfast, which is this hypothetical question where people can't, people respond when they, imagine you didn't have breakfast, and he said, but I did have breakfast.
It's like, well, no, we're just talking hypotheticals.
The idea of not being able to entertain a hypothetical question.
He writes, the Peterson fall-off must be studied.
Listen to this.
Do you believe in the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good notion of God?
What do you mean by believe?
You think it to be true?
That's the circular definition.
What do you mean when you say you believe?
How is that circular?
Because you added no content to the answer by substituting the word true and believe.
I said you think it to be true.
Alright, so if you believe something, you stake your life on it.
What do you mean by that?
You live for it and you die for it.
Okay, so you're saying that you don't believe something if you wouldn't die for it?
Not really, no.
How would you define belief?
Something you say?
Can I explain?
I could believe it is the case that this pen exists, but if someone threatened my life, I would lie in order to be able to save my life.
I think you would do that too.
You wouldn't lie to save your life?
Don't be so sure.
You wouldn't lie to save your life?
How much do you know about me?
I didn't lie to save my career.
I didn't lie to save my clinical practice.
Would you lie to, like, save your children, your mom, your dad?
I don't think lying would save the...
Yeah, and if you're steeped in sin, you're likely to live in circumstances like that.
I'll give you an example.
If you're in Nazi Germany, and it is the case that there's Jewish people in your attic, and you're trying to protect them, would you lie to the Nazis?
I would have done everything I bloody well could, so I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with.
It's a hypothetical, and it's not answerable.
No, I can't answer a hypothetical like that because it's far...
I just told you I would do everything that I could to make sure that I'm never in that situation.
By the time you've got there, you've made so many mistakes that there's nothing you can do that isn't a sin.
Being born in Nazi Germany and trying to protect people that you care about, like there could be a Jewish friend that you have and you want to protect them.
I think you should just give up on that line of questioning.
But like, okay, again, you're not answering this hypothetical because you know it shows that you clearly would lie to safe someone's life.
I'm answering it in a manner you don't find acceptable.
Obviously, because I care about truth.
I wouldn't be in that scenario.
Obviously, right?
Logically, because that's already happened.
Like, that's in the past.
You don't have a time to travel device.
So this was a...
It's just tough to listen to.
I'm trying to understand Peterson here.
To get in a situation where you have to lie to save the life of your loved one, you will have sinned so much or been steeped in sin that now your only choice is to sin.
I will just say this.
In that instance, it would not be a sin to protect the lives of your loved ones.
It wasn't a sin for Moses' mother to save the life of her baby by being deceitful and sending him in a basket down the river.
That was not a sin.
That's, you know, doing something that that avoiding something God hates and at the same time doing something God loves, which is protecting the innocent.
OK, so I'm not really sure what I'm not.
I think Jordan Peterson is confused.
I think he is as a guy who, you know, made his career, at least his political career, based on refusing to affirm a lie, refusing to, I guess, rejecting forced speech or coerced speech, condemnation.
calling a man a woman or a woman a man.
It seems, I don't know why he would, why is his whole philosophy Like, does it crumble if he says, yeah, I would lie to save the life of my family?
I don't understand that, right?
I don't understand that at all.
But it just shows you that he is very confused.
Jason Whitlock from The Blaze says, Jordan Peterson was established as the smartest man in the room so that young men would adopt Luke Williams.
That's an interesting take.
Very much an interesting take.
Derek Evans reporting this over the weekend.
Breaking, it's being reported that the DNC is planning to spend $20 million on a campaign to reclaim support from young men.
This comes amid polling that shows an increasing shift toward Republicans, according to the New York Times.
So what better person in the Democrat Party to get young men interested again in the Democrat Party than homosexual Pete Buttigieg?
Of course we should be talking about how, yeah, if, you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible, not just for gay people to get married, but for straight people to get divorced, let alone, like, birth control or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever people, most people would have a problem with.
Interesting.
End wokeness saying that Buttigieg thinks the left can win back the young men by backing porn and gay marriage.
I don't know.
You notice that Buttigieg has grown himself a beard.
I predict that is going to come.
I think there's going to be a lot more Democrats starting to grow beards as beards have been back in style for a while now and are obviously a sign of masculinity.
But they need a bearded man to speak nonsense and promote feminism and somehow convince men that embracing feminism is actually embracing masculinity.
That will be their game.
And it will be based on lies and total deception.
Which brings me, speaking of deception, Russell Moore.
Russell Moore, the editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, has written a piece that has left me scratching my head in just absolute frustration.
You never know the lengths that people go.
Now, for those of you who don't know, Russell Moore used to be the head of the Southern Baptist Convention.
He has gone woke.
He has been woke for a very, very long time.
His main focus is an instrument of the liberal regime, and I think his main use in that is to sanitize regime rhetoric to Christians so that they sit on their hands and do nothing.
To try to take back this country and participate in electoral politics.
And so he's written a piece called The Oral Majority.
O-R-A-L.
The Oral Majority.
He says, Digital orality may be the biggest threat to evangelical Christianity of our time.
So what is digital orality?
Well, Russell Moore thinks digital orality is maybe the biggest threat to Christianity in our time.
So just keep that in mind.
That's the thesis of this article here.
He writes, Typically asks what the biggest threats are to its mission The assumption behind that exercise is that the most dangerous obstacles are those that one never sees coming Consider for a moment that the biggest threat to evangelical Christianity might not be any of those which we argue and strategize,
not secularization or sexuality debates or political captivity or institutional collapse or perpetual scandals or fragmentation and polarization.
What if all these are just symptoms of the most perilous threat to the church since the Reformation?
What if that threat is quite literally right in front of our eyes?
Podcasts.
In his book, Digital Future in the Rearview Mirror, Audrey Mir draws on the work of media scholars such as Marshall McLuhan, Walter Ong, and Eric Havelock to argue that the technological advancements of our times are causing a shift far bigger than the one brought about by the Industrial Revolution.
Mir contends that what is happening around us is akin to the Axial Age, described by the philosopher Carl Jaspers, a fundamental shift in human consciousness tied to the emergence of changes in human language roughly between 800 and 200 B.C. The Axial Age led to the major world religions as we know them, as well as to science, agricultural, industry, and culture.
He says, So, what is this point here, without me boring you and reading you this entire article?
Well, I'll tell you the reason for this article.
The reason this article exists is because...
And people began to read the word for themselves, or people began to read all kinds of things.
As literacy increased, that actually decentralized power.
It was a very, very, very good thing.
And right now, we are in the midst of another decentralization of power.
Now, Moore doesn't write about that.
Moore is warning of the danger of podcasts.
Essentially.
He is warning of the danger of all of this media, and we're going back from literacy, they're going to argue here, going back from literacy to orality, the spoken word, and how this is a bad thing.
If I was a minister, or a former minister like Russell Moore, and I became the editor-in-chief of Christianity Today, And I was approached by the CIA to write an article about the danger of all of these people out there that are listening to podcasts,
different views, different ideas, new ideas, old ideas, that are threatening the liberal order of today, that are threatening people, organizations like NATO and others.
This article reads like it's something the CIA would write.
That's all I'm saying.
I have asked online before, has Russell Moore ever worked for the CIA?
Do you now or have you ever worked for the CIA, Russell Moore?
And that's what this article reads like.
You guys should give it a read.
I'm telling you, you should.
But what the crux of it is, is people like Russell Moore are afraid.
Of the decentralization of media, the decentralization of power.
Everybody can have a microphone.
Everybody can have an opinion and share it with somebody else.
And they're afraid.
Once again, it's very much like the, it goes right in line with what's-his-face.
But have you ever been?
His name escapes me.
You know, the guy that went on Joe Rogan.
Anyway, it's the same thing.
It's gatekeeping.
It's really arguing for credentialism.
In many ways.
And so in keeping with that, you have kind of a juxtaposition here.
You have the oral majority, this phantom fear that's out there, or you have people that are actually putting their beliefs in action.
And that one person would be, in this case, Pete Hexeth.
Pete Hexeth hosted the first meeting of what he says will be a monthly Christian prayer service at the Pentagon.
Of course, people over on CNN had a complete meltdown because of it.
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Pete Hegseth, check this out.
This is incredible to me.
And I think we have a few audio clips of this as well.
Hegseth holds Pentagon Press, Pentagon Prayer Service.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth hosted a Christian prayer service on Wednesday at the Pentagon for employees that included a sermon by his hometown pastor who said President Donald Trump had been sovereignly appointed.
Well, he would have said that whether it would have been Biden or not because he has read the Bible and the Lord is actually in charge of everything, including who the leaders of nations are.
Sometimes those leaders can be a blessing to the people.
Sometimes those leaders can be a judgment against the people.
Here we have a little bit of it right here.
Here is a snippet of Pete Hegseth and his pastor at this Pentagon prayer service.
King Jesus, we come humbly before you, seeking your face, seeking your grace, in humble obedience to your law and to your word.
We come as sinners saved only by that grace, seeking your providence in our lives, And in our nation.
It is in the name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, that we pray.
And all God's people said, Amen.
It's a privilege for me to introduce Pastor Brooks Pottinger.
Give careful attention to the reading of God's Word.
Come, behold the works of the Lord, how He has brought desolation on the earth.
He makes wars to cease to the ends of the earth.
He will break the bow and He will shatter the spear.
The Lord burns the chariots with fire.
Be still and know that I am God.
I am that God.
I will be exalted among the nations.
I will be exalted in the earth.
The Lord of hosts is with us.
The God of Jacob is our fortress.
And so the call to be still and know that I am God is a call to a quietness.
The Lord is.
Our Lord Jesus said in Matthew 10, Not a sparrow will fall to the ground apart from my heavenly Father.
And if our Lord is sovereign even over the sparrow's fallings, you can be assured that he is sovereign over everything else that falls in this world, including tomahawk and Minuteman missiles, including strategy meetings and war room debriefings.
Jesus has the final say over all of it.
And this is why David, the great warrior king of Israel, declared, Psalm 20, verse 7, some will trust in chariots.
That's true.
Some will trust in horses, but we will trust in the name of the Lord our God.
And so, distinguished personnel, be still and know that he is God, which means by necessary inference, you are not.
Which means, be still and know that I am God, which means by necessary inference, you are not.
What an incredible message to hear in front of a room full of war fighters.
That need to know.
That need to approach their jobs with humility.
And this is a huge threat to those who are tyrants.
The idea that you would recognize a higher power than the state, the almighty American military, but it's not almighty.
But that's what many of us have thought, many people in D.C. have thought, that they answer to no one, least of all God.
What an encouraging And I look, you know, and really regardless of what happens, in Washington, D.C., excuse me, in Washington, D.C., you know, there's very rarely actual truth spoken in D.C. There's always another side of the story.
There's always another angle.
There's always a way to obfuscate the truth.
This is a rare instance where the truth was spoken, that Jesus is king.
The God of heaven is sovereign over everything that happens, including tomahawk missiles.
That is an encouraging thought.
MSNBC not too happy with this.
Headline, Why Pete Hegseth leading a Christian prayer service at the Pentagon is so problematic.
For those concerned about the administration and the emergence of Christian nationalism, the Pentagon's chief service was a step in an unsettling direction.
That's from Steve Bannon.
Over at MSNBC.
Yes, let them seethe.
Let them seethe.
It doesn't change the fact that what Pete Hexeth said in his prayer is true.
What the pastor said in his sermon is true.
Be still and know that I am God, which means that you and I are not.
People of the Pentagon are not God.
That was an encouraging thought, for sure.
Okay, we got a little bit left in the show, but before we get to that, oh no, we got one more of Hexeth.
So Hexeth was criticized for this.
Listen to this.
It's interesting.
The question is, I've gotten some criticism for hosting a Christian prayer service at the Pentagon yesterday.
We said it very publicly.
We said it very proudly.
Appealing to heaven.
To God is a long-standing tradition in our military.
I'm very proud that we're starting a monthly voluntary service at the Pentagon.
George Washington was on bended knee with the troops, praying for God's providence and protection in that moment.
Chaplains and ministers and Christians and people of faith across generations have prayed because of the business that we're in.
I mean, the business of the 82nd Airborne, and you watch that 911 button for the country, is a dangerous one on behalf of all of us.
And we appeal to God.
I appeal to Jesus Christ for that protection.
We're going to speak that word and be open and willing to talk about that at the Pentagon.
If they want to criticize that, they're on the wrong side.
No doubt.
No doubt.
If you want to criticize praying to the God of Heaven, you are on the wrong side.
It's not going to work out too well for you.
We also had, kind of in keeping with this line of thinking, there's a new study out that suggests, is it a study or is it just...
As we're talking about God, who is omniscient and omnipresent.
Jeff Younger writes, young people can't read third-person omniscient viewpoint novels, and he says he wants to answer, why is that?
Younger writes, young readers struggle with third-person omniscient, and publishers see it clearly.
A voice that knows too much, moves too freely, and speaks with judgment feels alien.
Readers call it confusing or even arrogant, but the root cause is deeper.
They weren't trained to read that kind of mind.
In school, the research paper has vanished.
the essay took its place, not the old essay of Montalvo.
The essay says, write what you feel, stay in your lane, don't presume to speak for others.
But omniscient narration does speak for others.
It sees broadly, it interprets, it compares, it dares to suggest what people think, even when they don't say it.
He goes on, the research paper taught students to gather knowledge outside themselves, weigh perspectives, judge sources, and reach beyond their own head.
That form is nearly gone.
Teachers don't assign research papers and they don't teach the research method.
Never having contemplated a world outside themselves, young people can't follow a narrative voice that thinks more widely than they feel or I feel.
He goes on, we raised readers who expect a single viewpoint, one consciousness, and no moral authority.
So when the voice of a novel dares to sound like a mind greater than the characters, they flinch.
Or God, maybe?
Maybe it also has to do with godlessness?
The idea that God can see everything and is omnipresent?
He says they call it false.
They stop reading.
This is not a failure of fiction.
It's a failure of education.
We stopped teaching students to think beyond the self, so now they can't follow stories that do.
Pretty incredible times we live in.
But I think with all that being said, I think that's one of the reasons why you had Wesley Huff say that there was a Canadian brick-and-mortar bookstore owner who called one of the ministries up there, Apology of Canada, and said, What is going on?
Why are there so many teenagers coming in asking for Bibles and buying Bibles?
And they say, well, we're getting these Bibles because all of our friends have Bibles and all of our friends are reading the Bible and we want to read the Bible too.
And the Bible speaks of an omniscient, omnipresent Heavenly Father that is in control of all things.
Praise the Lord.
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