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May 26, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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USS Liberty Survivors UNFILTERED Interview with Stew Peters

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	The country that we're told is supposed to be our greatest ally has a long and sordid history of hurting and maiming and murdering American citizens and American interests to get what it wants.
	We all know the story of the dancing Israelis on 9-11.
	We talked just recently about Jonathan Pollard, you know, the Israeli spy who sold our secrets only to receive a pardon and then be flown back to Israel and given a hero's welcome.
	Well, those stories are just the tip of the iceberg.
	And Israeli sabotage and Israeli attacks on Americans, they go back decades.
	They go back to the very founding of Israel on May 14, 1948, by a bunch of Zionist terrorists who spent years murdering Christians and Muslims and trying to run them out of their homes before finally manipulating the world into giving them their own country.
	Here you go.
	As far back as the 1950s, they tried to blow up American military hospitals and then blame it on Arabs so they could take their land.
	That was called the Levon Affair.
	And our government allowed, actually carried out all of it.
	They allowed all of it to happen.
	Along with 9-11, we already know, their fingerprints are all over the JFK assassination, which of course made Israel more powerful than ever before when Zionist LBJ was then installed as president.
	But you know, Israel's attacks on Americans haven't been limited to terrorism or espionage or assassinations.
	No, there's a lot more.
	As a matter of fact, they've also included direct acts of war.
	Direct attacks on our military that resulted in the gruesome deaths of Americans.
	The most notable of which, more notable now after a Candace Owens interview, was the June 8, 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, a story that we have covered on this program before when I sat down over a year ago with Liberty survivors to learn their stories firsthand.
	That attack on the Liberty murdered 34 Americans and wounded another 171.
	The ship was in the Mediterranean Sea near the Sinai Peninsula.
	In support of Israel and the six-day war that it had against Egypt, and it was clearly marked as an American ship while flying an American flag.
	And without warning, just out of nowhere, Israeli jets and torpedo boats attacked the Liberty, going as far as to use napalm to burn American sailors alive.
	This is a slow and painful and methodical death.
	They strafe the ship.
	They fill it with bullet holes.
	And then they drop napalm on the sailors and on the ship to burn them alive.
	They ignored the Liberty's pleas to stop the attack.
	And the U.S. government directly ordered the naval command not to step in.
	Don't stop the Israeli attack.
	They let the Liberty be destroyed.
	Yeah, the Israelis were allowed to completely isolate their prey, and they murdered as many American sailors as they possibly could before zipping away like nothing ever happened.
	And the Americans, they never returned fire.
	They only tried to just merely survive and save one another from this unprovoked Israeli assault.
	This was an intentional Israeli attack on an American ship.
	That was in the region to do what?
	To support Israel.
	And then Israeli personnel directly ordered the attack on the Liberty and directly carried out the attack on the Liberty.
	They were ordered to kill Americans and they complied.
	They were ordered to carry out an act of war against the United States Navy, against the American people, and against each sailor on board that ship on that day.
	And this isn't something that we're just making up.
	This isn't Stu Peters, the virulent anti-Semite conspiracy theorist, just telling lies.
	Communication records that are freely available to the American public confirm all of this.
	And yet, not one president, not one congressperson, not one senator, Has talked about any of this.
	Congress even refused to launch an investigation onto the attack on the Liberty.
	Lyndon B. Johnson, those who came after him, and the rest of our government tried to sweep it all under the rug, and over the course of years, decades, moved to silence and ignore the Liberty survivors who lost 34 of their friends to the anti-American Israeli war machine that we are still funding and still supporting to this very day.
	And in the most tragic of ways, the story of the USS Liberty symbolizes the wider U.S.-Israeli relationship.
	The relationship that has just relentlessly persisted over the years.
	This disgusting, bloodthirsty country halfway across the world has a license to do whatever the hell it wants, even if it means ending American lives or the lives of anyone else, for that matter.
	And they have no problem acting on that.
	As we're seeing right now.
	In Gaza.
	In Lebanon.
	In Syria.
	And soon in Iran.
	The USS Liberty was an early warning sign of Israeli bloodlust.
	And our government should have listened.
	But instead, they covered it up.
	Why?
	Because they were in on it.
	And they continue to cover it up to this very day.
	We're not supposed to look into this.
	We're not supposed to look into it.
	We're not supposed to talk about it.
	We're just supposed to act like none of this ever happened and let the legacy of USS Liberty veterans fall into the ash bin of history so that we don't offend our Israeli Jew masters.
	Yeah, well, I'm not going to let that happen.
	This show and this network and this audience aren't going to let that happen.
	This was the first show on the air to truly take a deep dive into the story of the USS Liberty when I sat down with Liberty survivors to hear their stories straight from the men who were there.
	But of course, with a story like this, we can never learn too much.
	We can never talk enough about what actually occurred on that day.
	And that's why today it's an absolute honor to be joined by USS Liberty survivor Phil Turney.
	It's a pleasure to see you again.
	Thank you so much for making the time for us.
	We appreciate it.
	The pleasure is all mine, Stu.
	I must say flight a monologue What do you really need me for?
	That was pretty We are a bought and paid for country by the Zionist state.
	And when you mentioned our government was in on it, they're still in on it.
	For covering it up.
	And it is something against not just the USS Liberty.
	It's something against America.
	Because when they attacked our ship, they just didn't attack us.
	They attacked the United States of America.
	This was war.
	It was war crimes.
	And covered up.
	The cover-up is always worse than the crime.
	It's very tough for me to say that with 34 of my shipmates slaughtered that day.
	And we're only down to probably 50, 75 survivors left.
	And it's our turn to tell the truth.
	And thank God for alternative media, podcasts, and things like that.
	People like you that really give a damn.
	About the USS Liberty story.
	It's one of the biggest hidden secrets along with JFK.
	And we all know about JFK.
	What really happened there.
	And 9-11.
	What happened there.
	And what's happening right now with the Greater Israel Project that we all said was a real thing.
	And when we just suggested its mere existence.
	The Greater Israel Project.
	Of course, the ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt came out and said, Stu Peters, here he is, a conspiracy theorist fantasizing about something called the Greater Israel Project.
	They posted it at ADL.org.
	The soldiers for the IDF wear the map of Greater Israel on their arms, on a patch.
	This isn't some wild and crazy conspiracy theory.
	I want to congratulate you also, Phil, on your appearance with Candace Owens because I think that was a huge step in mainstreaming this.
	She's got a very large audience, a very mainstream audience, an audience filled with a lot of people who have been indoctrinated and programmed by the Jewish funded media industrial complex from Rothschild Boulevard and Tel Aviv by the likes of BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street, who control the narrative for all of our major broadcast networks like CBS and ABC and NBC.
	And they control all of the cable news outlets like the Fox News Channel, CNN, MSNBC.
	Has the Fox News Channel invited you on to talk about what actually happened?
	And Never.
	I got a hold of them.
	Several years back and tried and tried and tried.
	They never even responded to me one way or the other.
	I did the same thing with Newsmax because they're a pretty much conservative outlet.
	I wanted to talk to Carl Higby or Greg Kelly.
	They served their country honorably.
	And I thought maybe they might give us a chance to tell our story, the real story.
	I know they're pro-Israel, but...
	You can't be having two masters.
	You only have one master.
	And that's not the Zionist state.
	But that is the state we're in right now.
	We've had that ever since 1948.
	You go back to the calendars or the globes, 1945, 1946.
	This is all Palestine.
	There's no Israel there.
	It's all Palestine.
	Now look at the greater Israel you were talking about.
	And that's what they wanted in 1967.
	What they didn't get, In 1967, by us not sinking, they're getting right now.
	Well, you know what?
	I would like to make the map 1947 again, and I think the world would be a lot better place.
	And you said something that was interesting when you were mentioning the people over at Newsmax, and you said, I know they're pro-Israel, and then went on to continue what you were saying.
	I just want to ask you the question because I value your opinion.
	I highly respect your position.
	Why would it be that anybody looking at the true history between our country, between America and Israel, or between Americans and Jews, Christians specifically, or Jews, Muslims and Jews, why would anyone be pro-Israel?
	What would be the reason that anyone would be able to point to something specific and say, this is why I support Israel?
	Can you think of any?
	No, I cannot.
	I can't imagine talented people working in these organizations.
	They're not stupid.
	They're doing it for a reason.
	They want to cover up the truth of the USS Liberty and many other atrocities, going back to the King David Hotel and Beirut bombing over and over again, all false flags to blame it on somebody else.
	So, yeah, this just didn't start happening in 67, but they got...
	And it keeps on pouring in through the bundles.
	They get stacks of money from the United States of America to defeat or incinerate or destroy the Palestinians, Lebanon, Syria.
	Greater Israel.
	That's what you were talking about, and I believe that wholeheartedly.
	You also said that these people honorably serve their country.
	That may be, but right now aren't they co-conspirators in the infiltration, occupation, and eventual conquering of our country?
	Absolutely they are, by not telling the truth.
	You know, that Jesus Christ, you know, the truth will set you free.
	Well, that's what we're doing, is trying to set America free.
	Our story will bust this wide open for the American public and around the world to find out exactly what Israel will do to not just me, not anybody, but you.
	Of course they want to cancel everybody.
	I'm sure you've gone through that.
	They're doing it right now because of the film Occupied and pre its release when I started airing teasers and eventually the official trailer.
	Yeah, we...
	And, of course, all of the people who say, yeah, we'll come and support you.
	That never happens.
	Only several hundred have subscribed to the network.
	And so we may be short-lived here.
	I mean, not to sound...
	The financial sacrifices of this network don't surmount to any of that.
	So I'm not – but I'm just saying like we just will cease to exist because any funding – I mean, we're an army and every army needs resources.
	Every army needs funding.
	So we will go away and then, you know, others will slide in and then they'll be there for a short period of time and maybe they'll have some influence or maybe they won't.
	But as long as we have influence and we have a seat at this desk, we're going to platform the truth.
	What was your experience like with Candace Owens when you were talking to her?
	Did she seem like she was surprised to hear all of this?
	She did, Stu.
	She did.
	She was probably the most genuine, honest, truthful reporters I've ever talked to.
	She dug into it.
	She read a letter I sent, and it started from then.
	She called me one day, out of the blue, about three weeks ago, and said, "Hello, this is Candace." I apologize for not knowing your story like I should if I feel terrible about it.
	But I'd like to get you on my show.
	And I says, well, is this the Candace Owens?
	She says, yeah, this is Candace Owens.
	And I says, I almost fell over because I know how big she is.
	But she's taken a lot of heat too, Stu.
	They're calling her every name in the book.
	She got named the...
	Yeah, anti-Semite of the Year.
	That really pissed Dan Bilzerian off.
	I know that he was really focused on winning that.
	I know.
	I know.
	Dan's a good dude.
	So is Jake Shields.
	Yes, yes.
	Both great men.
	Yes, absolutely.
	And many more.
	I've been on quite a few podcasts, but thank God for the podcast and the alternative media because we're going to bust the back.
	Of these crooked politicians right now getting rich off the American public, taking donations from a foreign government.
	How can you do that?
	Take donations, get re-elected by a foreign government, and then your allegiance is to AIPAC and Israel, not the United States of America.
	That is treason.
	It was treason in 1967.
	is still treason what they're doing covering up the truth because of the greater good of Israel and covering their own rear ends for being part of it.
	They're just as guilty of murder as 67 are politicians to right now for covering up the murder.
	They are complicit in hiding murder.
	And not just Trump, but dating all the way back.
	But Trump included.
	Who took $100 million from AIPAC, from Miriam Adelson, who said he was going to make Israel great again.
	And one of the biggest followings, I think, Phil, that we really need to get to is to the MAGA crew.
	And I'm not saying that people should denounce MAGA because, of course, everyone wants to make America great again.
	But when it comes to public officials, especially those that we are told are elected, These people are our servants.
	And that includes the President of the United States.
	We, the people, are to hold them accountable.
	Not the other way around.
	Our government is to fear us.
	Not the other way around.
	Our government is to comply with our orders.
	Not the other way around.
	Our government is not supposed to become oppressive to our God-given, inherent, inalienable rights.
	And our Constitution actually tells us what to do with a government that does become oppressive to those rights, which is to tear it down, to abolish it, and to replace it with a form of government that is representative of the people.
	And so I think that there's been a tremendous effort.
	To psyop the American people.
	And when you look at elections versus installations, Donald Trump would actually be the perfect installation for Israel because of the cult-like following that will make excuses for Donald Trump no matter what he does.
	And that poses a very serious threat to Americans, especially when you look at the relationship between ourselves and this homosexual, pro-mandate, pro-transgenderism, former secular nation-state of Israel founded in 1948.
	Our relationship with that country and the amount of I do.
	I do agree.
	And as I said on the Candace interview, I reached out to Donald Trump to do the right thing and give us our day in court.
	If you can prove we're liars, do it.
	Please do it.
	You can ruin our reputations, try to do anything you want to, but we're not liars.
	Now, give us a chance, just like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro say we're nothing but conspiracy theorists.
	I called them out on that, and I'm still calling them out.
	Debate me if you think we're conspiracy theorists, because we're not.
	We're telling the truth.
	God saved us for this day, and that's why I'm still here, by the grace of God.
	Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro could never fathom honorably serving this country or being in a position aboard the USS Liberty like you were.
	So who in the hell do they think they are to criticize you or call you a conspiracy theorist?
	You were there.
	Which leads me to my question, has there been any one of the survivors that were aboard the USS Liberty with you on that day that have come out and said, you know, Phil Turney is smoking crack?
	Phil is just a drunkard.
	He has no idea what he's talking about.
	Phil is a conspiracy theorist.
	Phil is wrong.
	That is not what happened aboard the Liberty that day.
	Has there been one person that was aboard the Liberty that day that has discounted your account of what took place on that day?
	No.
	Not one that I know of.
	The survivors have been treated like garbage.
	For telling the truth, we get called names, Nazis, Jew-haters, any other foul word you want, they call us that.
	And it's hard to take when you're trying to tell the truth and nobody wants to listen.
	But you're listening and others have listened.
	And God bless you for that.
	That's the only way we're going to break this, Stu.
	This stranglehold is with the truth about the USS Liberty.
	The USS Liberty.
	We'll crack this nut wide open.
	The egg is going to be broken up.
	And you can't put the egg back in it now because it's already done.
	And there's going to be more alternative media coming out, like yours and others, to help us out.
	You know, hold our government accountable.
	As you said, they work for us.
	We don't work for them.
	And they better do their job.
	We're paying them.
	Well, AIPAC's paying them, too, so you get big, big paychecks from AIPAC.
	Perhaps we don't give them enough money.
	They're bought and paid for, all of them.
	For those people who don't know exactly what it is that occurred on the USS Liberty that day, could you please take us through about five minutes and just give us an account of what happened?
	Obviously, I'm going to be talking to another survivor immediately after you here, and maybe we'll get some specifics there.
	But from your perspective and where you were on the ship, how you knew that it was Israel.
	And the lengths that they went to to make sure that you were dead.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, Mo Schaefer's going to be with you here in just a bit.
	And I'll try to make this quick because I know you're getting short.
	But I was on the main deck.
	I was in damage control.
	And before the attack, we could see flying boxcars, other smaller planes, reconnaissance ship, taking pictures of it.
	It was very friendly, everything.
	They were there.
	We were happy they were there because they were our allies, we thought.
	And after general quarters, we stowed our gear, went back up on deck.
	The sound-powered phones weren't working.
	I got a guy to go up there and fix that, Davis Kolak, which he eventually was blown to bits a few minutes after I was up there.
	But we could see no markings on the planes, Stu.
	They were all covered up, Mystere Mirai's jets.
	They're completely blackened.
	So we had no idea who was attacking us.
	We just assumed it was the Arab states.
	I mean, our friends wouldn't attack us.
	And the air attack lasts about 25 minutes, a little over.
	There was a lull.
	And then we see the torpedo boats coming.
	Take us through the air attack, because you glossed over that very quickly.
	The air attack was done in about 25 minutes.
	For that 25 minutes, what was happening?
	During this air attack?
	Well, what was happening was we finally got an SOS out from the antenna hooked up.
	It was taken offline by Terry Haldabardier.
	Thank God he did, because that would have been hit, too.
	He hooked it up and yelled out, Rockstar, Rockstar, under attack by unknown jet aircraft.
	Help us, help us.
	And this was picked up as far away as Vietnam.
	The 6th Fleet picked it up.
	Captain Tully and also Captain England of the USS America.
	Captain Tully was the skipper of the Saratoga.
	He immediately launched the aircraft.
	Even before they hit the horizon, they were called back by McNamara.
	Do not go help Liberty.
	Do not go help Liberty.
	Send those aircraft back to base now.
	Which they did.
	They turned around.
	A little bit later, say 10 minutes, Saratoga launched again as well as the America.
	Those aircraft were recalled again.
	Get back to base.
	By this time, they were called back by LBJs when he basically said, I don't give a GD.
	If every sailor on that board is dead, I will not embarrass my ally.
	How did he know who was attacking us if we didn't?
	And then we didn't know who was attacking us until the torpedo boats got there.
	And that was another hour and a half of hell.
	It was a two-hour bloodbath.
	Of American sailors and Marines aboard the USS Liberty being slaughtered.
	Nobody wanted to help us, including our own government.
	By the grace of God, we didn't sink.
	Like I said, that's why we're here right now telling this story.
	And they wish that you weren't.
	And our own government wishes that these Israelis would have been successful on that day.
	And the mission that they set out to do, which was to murder all of you and to sink that ship.
	Yes, we're still alive today by the grace of God to tell the truth, and he saved us for moments like this.
	Our time is coming, Stu, the USS Liberty crew and people like you that preach the truth and are out there on our side.
	Our day is coming.
	We're like a freight train with no brakes headed toward a victory for the USS Liberty and even more than that, victory for America, letting them know what our country, our own government will do and what the AIPAC and Israel army in this country will do to silence everybody.
	They just can't wait till we're all dead.
	I can't wait to see you again and shake your hand.
	That was one of the most, by the way, I just want to tell you, Phil, that that was one of the most memorable, I never expected to be sitting here behind a desk like this on TV doing what I do.
	You're obedient.
	You just follow God.
	And so this is where I'm at for now.
	I don't know how long I'll be here.
	Judging financially, probably not very long.
	But that was, you know, of all of the amazing experiences that I have had sitting down with you and your fellow survivors, that was probably...
	I just want to thank you for that.
	And thank you for allowing me to come there and to give a speech and to sit down with all of you.
	And for those of you who have not seen that interview, by the way, or series of interviews, if you go to the Stu Peters Network Rumble channel, we'll probably post some highlights in the wake of this interview with yourself and Mo Schaefer.
	And put some of those out there for people to refresh themselves and to get a real understanding because the Empire of Lies has been feeding them nonsense stories or just not feeding them any information on this at all whatsoever.
	And largely the American people, how would they know about what happened on that day with the USS Liberty?
	They wouldn't know.
	Because our own government and the Rothschild, BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street funded Jewish controlled media will never tell them what happened on that day.
	And I think that that is one of the biggest tragedies ever.
	I've got about 30 seconds left here, Phil.
	I want to give you the final words.
	talk to the audience.
	Yeah, well, thank you, Stu.
	God bless you for giving me the opportunity to be with you.
	It was a great pleasure a few years ago when we met.
	It was a great honor that you were there for us.
	And just go to, if you could donate to the USS Liberty, just go to uslibertyveterans.org.
	If you could donate it, help us keep going to the U.S. To, you know, do travel and do speaking engagements and things like that.
	It certainly would be appreciated, and I hope you can get more donations.
	I'm so sorry to hear what they're doing to you.
	That isn't right.
	Yeah, well, we'll put our faith in God, and we'll put our faith in our audience.
	This is an army that is rising, and largely because of you and your story, and we appreciate it.
	God bless you, Phil Turney.
	I can't wait to see you again soon.
	Yes, sir.
	Thank you.
	Let's keep in touch, Stu.
	God bless you.
	Of course.
	Yes, we will.
	As a matter of fact, stay online here because as soon as we get off the air here, when we go on a commercial break, I want to get some of your personal contact information and make sure that I'm all up to date on that.
	Make sure that you go to the website and you help these guys out.
	Having their story all over the place, having the USS Liberty story all over the place, which is an American story.
	It's an American war story.
	That you have been prohibited from learning about for your entire life?
	Imagine that.
	Most of our Gen Xers, most of our Gen Z people, they have no idea what happened because they're not learning about this in school.
	Once again, because the Department of Education and its entire bureaucracy has been infiltrated and is now occupied by the same subversives that tried to murder Phil Turney.
	More of the Stu Peter Show continues next.
	We'll be right back.
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	We find contentment in the consensus of ignorance.
	Now don't be defensive, didn't pay attention to faked events.
	You get what you get.
	They invaded For those of you who had your first experience just now to listen to Phil Turney,
	a couple of years ago I sat down with all of the survivors or a great majority of the survivors from the USS Liberty and I was invited to DC to give a speech there at their event.
	And as I told Phil Turney and as you heard, this was one of the most memorable experiences in whatever this journalism endeavor is that I am on here.
	Never before did I think that I would sit behind a desk like this.
	I never fathomed that I would be some journalist, you know, charged with the responsibility of being the tip of the spear of the information war and going directly toward the gates of hell as we stormed them together.
	But yet here we are.
	And, you know, one of the things that Phil said to me, During the commercial break, kind of hit me really hard, is that this is the moment that they have been waiting for, the survivors of the USS Liberty.
	They have been waiting for this moment for a very long time because they have been ignored.
	They have been called conspiracy theorists.
	How can you be a conspiracy theorist?
	You were there.
	You were aboard the USS Liberty.
	You saw it.
	You witnessed it.
	You went through the hell of losing 34 of your brothers aboard this ship.
	170 or more others were maimed and wounded.
	This was a United States naval ship that was attacked by Israel.
	That's not a conspiracy theory.
	That is a horrific nightmare that became a reality on that day.
	And so when you have people like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk going off half-cocked calling Phil Turney and his fellow survivors conspiracy theorists, even now to this day, that should piss you off.
	Because everything that you have ever been taught in your public school curriculum, your education, your post-secondary education, everything that you have been taught about World War II and about this alliance that we have with Israel, our greatest ally, has all been based on lies and cover-ups.
	So you have to ask yourself, what would the motive be for the United States government and for all of its bureaucracies and for the Department of Defense And for military affairs and high-ranking military officials, what would their motive be?
	What would have been the motive for Lyndon B. Johnson and those that have followed him?
	Because none of his predecessors have said anything about the USS Liberty.
	And yes, that includes Donald Trump.
	The survivors of the USS Liberty have not had their day in court.
	People sue the government when they slip and fall at a courthouse.
	People sue restaurants when they slip and fall in the bathrooms.
	And they do it successfully.
	And you have these survivors from the USS Liberty who were napalmed, they were torpedoed, they were assaulted by Israeli Air Force jets.
	It was covered up.
	They were turned into quacks and kooky conspiracy theorists.
	They have been lied about.
	They have been ignored.
	They have been suppressed.
	And yet have not had their day in court.
	They've been written off.
	As if none of this ever even happened.
	And there's people that work here in the studio who, listening to Phil Turney, are completely floored by all of this.
	They had no idea that any of this ever happened.
	So I just want to thank Candace Owens, personally.
	Candace, thank you for having Phil Turney.
	Because Candace has a much larger, more normie audience.
	She has an audience of people who maybe migrated over or still listen to the Fox News channel or CNN or Newsmax.
	They still listen to MSNBC.
	They still trust their television when their pundits tell them who to go and vote for in the next free and fair election that we have in this country.
	They still believe the media when the media tells them that we're going to war at the behest of our greatest ally, Israel, and that we should do more to support Israel and that we should send them more money and that we should partake in this religious sacrament that has been And for anybody who says that, you're labeled a virulent anti-Semite of the worst order.
	We can debate numbers from the Holocaust.
	We can debate the numbers of people that were killed at Auschwitz.
	We can talk about the Holocaust Encyclopedia.
	We can talk about the 1992 article from the Chicago Tribune that said, fixing the numbers at Auschwitz.
	Or the number of people that the Chicago Tribune admits were killed was about three and a half million less than what you have been taught your entire life.
	So we can have those debates.
	We can go down those rabbit holes.
	We can conjure up opinions and different mathematical equations to talk about what might have actually happened.
	But in this case, we can talk to people who were actually there.
	In this case, we can talk about what our greatest ally actually did on that day, and they attacked what they carried out, not only against those aboard the USS Liberty, but against America, and against Americans, and against our children, and the future that they have here in this country, which is a future that includes digital, virtual, financial, or even physical prison camps.
	Should you talk about these things?
	Thank you.
	I won't be scared off.
	And so, as promised, during the Phil Turney interview, we're now going to get to Mo Schaefer, who's on the PSS Liberty, on that horrific day as well.
	First of all, thank you for coming to talk with us.
	I really appreciate you being here.
	It was a pleasure meeting you a couple of years ago.
	It's a great honor to have you back here.
	The Candace interview was great because it blew the lid off of a mainstream audience.
	And as Phil told me off the air, this is the moment.
	The time is now.
	This is it.
	This is what you have been waiting for.
	And so now there will be this blitz of podcasters and other personalities that are, of course, willing to now finally give you the attention that you have been deserving of for decades.
	So I just want to let you know that it's my commitment that we'll just have you on repetitively and continue to hammer this story out there on a large platform.
	And to give you the time that you deserve.
	And I would like for you to really talk more about the actual day, the facts, what actually occurred on that day at sea aboard the USS Liberty, if you would.
	Our audience deserves to hear the real truth, what actually happened.
	Well, thank you, Stu, for having me on.
	Again, my name is Mo Schaefer.
	I am a survivor of the USS Liberty.
	We're a communications group on the ship.
	And if you just heard Phil, he was the ship people who took care of all the crew.
	And we were the spies, so to speak, that had our own quarters on the ship.
	We lived in separate spaces.
	We had separate secret spaces to do our work, intelligence work, on the ship.
	So June 8th was no different than any other day.
	We're out at sea, except we were cruising at that time from the fifth or so from Abijan in Africa.
	We were cruising over into the Mediterranean to unknown expectations, especially for the ship's crew who did not have the clearance that we had, but we were going potentially into harm's way into what was called the Six-Day War.
	And we really didn't know the details, except it was Egypt and Israel at war.
	And we were going over there to do what we're supposed to do, and that's to snoop.
	And so on that day, June 8th, my shipmate and I, Jim Cavanaugh, were, and if you've seen a picture of the ship, it's, there was a And that was there to beam messages, top secret information back to NSA and Washington once a month.
	And we were up in that.
	And the reason I'm telling you this is because the boxcar airplanes came flying over about 10 o 'clock in the morning, flying over, taking pictures with cameras hanging out.
	And there were several of them flying around and they had the Star of David on them.
	And that was kind of a relief.
	It was interesting.
	They were taking a lot of photographs.
	They would wave at us.
	They were very close.
	But yet, we felt safe because somebody was there to protect us if there were any issues.
	Because we were 13 miles off the coast, but we could see things going off on land at that time.
	So, not thinking much more about that.
	We had a general quarters around lunch time, and that's a drill.
	That Phil probably told you about.
	And then a battle drill.
	And then we were relieved from that.
	And my shipmate and I were going back up to that basket.
	It was a beautiful day.
	There wasn't a cloud in the sky.
	A lot of people were sunbathing.
	There were a lot of people out on the decks.
	And all of a sudden, you just were up there and you heard this sound come and looked up and I saw a jet coming over with obviously firing its missiles.
	Firing its bullets.
	And obviously, you have to instantly take cover at that point.
	But to set that stage, there were two jets.
	They looked like Delta Wing Nigs.
	They were disguised.
	They were French Phantom jets with no markings on them whatsoever.
	And they strafed our ship.
	And there again, I was topside right there when the first strafe came over.
	But my responsibility as a spook was to go down into my, And so that put us below decks, put us below the waterline and so forth.
	But on top of the ship, you had all the rockets going off.
	You had these planes came in with anti-personnel weapons.
	Their first mission was to kill people that were up there.
	And then their second mission was to come in with armored piercing.
	And so once the people went indoors into those spaces, inside behind the metal walls, they used armored piercing and shot their cannons and then put huge holes, four and five inches in diameter, to kill people inside those rooms with the shrapnel flying out.
	So there wasn't any chance they were trying to scare us or intimidate us or whatever.
	They were out to destroy every person, every single thing on that ship.
	Including throwing napalm on us, burning the ship.
	But in that whole process of those cameras coming up earlier, they took pictures of every antenna, every wire coming down the mast and so forth.
	So they made sure they shot everything out on that first strafe to eliminate our ability to communicate with the outside world.
	And they succeeded completely with that, except for one cable, one of our guys, Terry Haubertier, a radio man.
	Got that cable and hooked it up, and he got one message out.
	It says, "Rock star, rock star under attack.
	USS Liberty under attack." And the thing that nobody ever wanted to happen then was one message came back to us, and it said, "Help is on the way." And that's the thing that you know that stopped our help from coming because Israel intercepted that message, and they knew at that point, That they had been caught, so to speak, because there was communication.
	And communication came back to our ship.
	So we never saw anybody for 17 or 18 hours after that.
	But there were planes launched and sent to help us, and they said help us on the way.
	But once the Israelis radar picked those coming, they said, oh, we made a mistake.
	They called Lyndon Johnson and said we screwed up.
	Johnson called the jets back to the ship, the Saratoga Aircraft Carrier.
	And also, at that time, I'll take you down to my spaces first.
	And so I go down to my spaces, and we could hear all the piercing coming through the plane or the ship of the armored piercing rockets.
	Then the captain says, after that all stopped for about 20 minutes, the captain says, "Prepare for torpedo attack." Now, Phil, I'm sure, told you torpedo boats were coming.
	We had no vision of anything, so we didn't know anything that was going on.
	We had no idea what was going on up there at the top, except they said, prepare for torpedo attack.
	And I looked at my shipmate, Jimmy, and I said, Jimmy, So we laid down on the floor, wrapped our arms around a table leg.
	That table was never to be found, but the torpedo hit.
	And I can't tell you, all I remember is a flash of fire and then folly.
	I remember folly.
	The table that you were holding onto was actually hit by the torpedo that pierced the side of the ship?
	Going through the ship, the stuff that went through moved everything, tore the walls out, tore everything out inside the ship except God left our ladder.
	God left our ladders there hooked up, but the wall on each side of the ladder was blown away to never be found or any of that stuff.
	just melted it.
	But anyway, the blast was so intense that But it entered the water, so I had to be unconscious for a few seconds.
	But then what happens?
	You're underwater, it's black, you can't see anything, and you come up and you grab some air, you're about a foot between the ceiling and the water.
	And then you're reaching around trying to figure out because you can't see where to go.
	I kind of felt I knew the direction the ladder was in.
	And then I grabbed on to my friend Jimmy was still there near me.
	I grabbed on to his shirt and we made our way to the ladder and got out.
	So I give him the credit for being my shirt to hold on to to save my life and get me out of that hole.
	We went through the hole where people helped them pull us through that hole.
	So, they came first to scout.
	And then they came to attack.
	And then when they realized that they had screwed up, they had to get rid of the evidence.
	And so after strafing you and missile and bullet attacking you from an aerial position, And after covering the ship with napalm, they then, once they realized they had screwed up and had to get rid of the evidence, that's when the torpedo boats came and they were going to sink you.
	And the expressed intent was to kill every one of you.
	Correct.
	They even attacked the lifeboats afterward.
	Is that correct?
	They fired five torpedoes.
	Must have had a poor guy behind the telescope or whatever to aim at us.
	With God's blessing, only one torpedo hit us.
	But that torpedo was designed to pierce your ship, to implode, and then to explode and split the ship in half so there would be no survivors.
	By God's divine intervention, first I told you he left our ladder standing, and everything around it was blown away.
	The torpedo pierced and then hit an I-beam on the ship and exploded at the surface of where it was entering the ship.
	So therefore, it couldn't go in and implode and explode, and the ship didn't split in half and sink.
	But it made a hole 24 feet high and 39 feet wide in the side of the ship coming into our spaces, and the first 25 there I mean, blew them to shreds, came through the little wall, came into our spaces, injured a lot of people.
	But again, I think I learned how to prepare for a torpedo attack because had we been sitting up in a chair or standing up, we would have been killed.
	And I'd say there's 15 or so survivors in that room.
	25 died.
	And we only identified one of those because But anyway, what else should I do?
	Help me out here.
	Well, I mean, I just, I can't help but think about all of the decades that have gone by.
	And I asked Phil this question, maybe I'll ask you.
	Are there any amongst you, any survivors that would say, yeah, you know, Mo and Phil are crazy.
	Israel didn't do this.
	Is there, I mean, is there anybody that has any kind of substance to the argument that you are like some kind of a crackpot conspiracy theorist?
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	As Christians in a Christian country, we have a right to be, at minimum, agnostic about the leadership being all Jewishly occupied.
	We literally should be at war with fucking Israel a hundred times over, and instead we're just sending them money, and it's fucking craziness.
	Look at the site of Israel, look at the site of Tel Aviv, and look at the site of Philadelphia.
	You tell me where this money's going.
	You tell me who's benefiting from this.
	I am prepared to die in the battle.
	Fighting this monstrosity that would wish to enslave me and my family and steal away any brights to my property and to take away my God, go fuck yourself.
	Will I submit to that?
	And if you've got a foreign state, you've got dual citizens in your government, who do you think they're supporting?
	God, right now, would you protect the nation of Israel and protect those of us, not just our church, but every church in the world and in this nation that's willing to put their neck on the line and say, we stand with them.
	We stand with you.
	You go to Trump's cabinet.
	You go to Biden's cabinet.
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	She understands where I'm coming from.
	Excuse me, I'm a Jew, and I'd just like to say that, you know, in our Bible it says that you're like animals.
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	What would be your motive to lie and say that Israel did this?
	There's no survivor that's alive on that ship that would not tell you the same story.
	They won't tell you the same story because every individual was in a different spot.
	Okay?
	So we have a documentary out called Sacrificing Liberty.
	And you can get that off of our website, ussliberty.org.
	You can go on there and find Sacrificing Liberty.
	But there's maybe 10 of us on there.
	And every person has a different story because they were in a different place that day.
	With the same result, somebody attacked us with jets, somebody attacked us with napalm, somebody attacked us with torpedo boats, blew a hole in the side of our ship.
	Then, when we're ready to call abandoned ship, we jettison our life rafts to help the wounded and so forth, and they shoot those out of the water.
	And took one of them as a trophy with him.
	I think that's still on display somewhere in Israel.
	I don't know.
	I've had a friend in Atlanta tell me that he saw that over there several years ago.
	But it was like their trophy.
	We have on tape one of the pilots that was in the attack saying, I can't attack.
	That's an American ship.
	And it will attack anyway.
	We have Lyndon Johnson on tape because we know the whole thing was designed through.
	Israel and the United States to do this.
	And Johnson's saying during the attack, I will let the sun sink.
	I will not jeopardize my relationship with Israel.
	Now listen to this.
	I will not jeopardize my relationship with Israel.
	We didn't know who was attacking us.
	If we didn't know who was attacking us, how did Lyndon Johnson know who was attacking us?
	Interesting.
	And then we're all flown off the next, you know, that next day, 17 hours we sit in the water, dead in the water with one doctor.
	We're all trying to save lives on the deck, and he was, he should have gotten the Medal of Honor.
	But he was blown to pieces, sewed himself up, and I'm going to say saved 100 lives.
	All of you should get a Medal of Honor.
	Yeah.
	Every one of you on that ship should get a Medal of Honor.
	And anybody who's willing to tell the truth out here to liberate not just this generation, not just yours, but those to come.
	Because this entire country, think about that, this ship was destined to be blown to smithereens and fractured in half.
	Where no survivors would be possible and to sink to the depths of the sea so that evidence could be covered up from an attack perpetuated by our greatest ally.
	And a sitting president of the United States was responsible at first for making the decision to let you go and die and then to cover it up.
	And every president since has made the same effort to cover it up.
	And every sitting member of Congress has made an effort to cover it up.
	And everybody in the Senate has made an effort to cover it up.
	And everybody in the media has made an effort to cover it up.
	And the one common denominator and the one thing that they all share in common is that they are all funded by Jews.
	They're all funded by Israel.
	They're all funded by AIPAC.
	I was flown off onto the America with the rest of the wounded, 174, the ones that had to be taken off the ship on the America.
	I went on the Little Rock, which was the flagship, Admiral Martin, who was the commandant of the 6th Fleet.
	He came into our room, there were five of us on his ship, that we weren't injured as badly.
	But he came in and he says, guys, we tried to do everything we could.
	Now, at this point in my life, I'm wondering whether he was telling the truth.
	But yet he said, "I want you to know that we launched four planes off the Star Trek aircraft carrier to come and help you out and to take care of your situation there at the ship with conventional weapons." He says, "I loaded four planes off the America and launched them with nuclear warheads directed to Cairo, Egypt."
	Of course, we all know an admiral would not have the power to bomb, but he had the power to put those planes in the air.
	And that could have been directed, too, because I think Johnson was hoping they would have a chance to wipe Egypt off the map.
	And we know that by saying that, and those planes got called back, as I told you, when we got that one message out, help us on the way, those planes all got called back.
	So we sat there 18 hours and never even knew.
	That they were ever in the air, okay, at that point.
	But to tell that, as I've said before, potentially, and Dave Lewis, our commander of our security group there, backed this up in the same documentary, Sacrifice and Liberty, that we were within minutes, potential minutes, of a nuclear holocaust on June 8th.
	1967.
	And I think that was the idea behind the whole thing, including Russia there, of course, picking up our stuff out of our torpedo hull and so forth.
	But we understand they had a submarine there that was potentially ready to just wipe Israel off the map if that had happened.
	So it's a much bigger story, but yet Nobody talked about this for 15 years.
	None of us.
	And then we finally had a reunion.
	Somehow we found out about it.
	And I ran straight to Washington, that reunion.
	And we've never wavered from each other.
	And we've gotten braver as time goes.
	But I will tell you, by the blessing of businesses like yours, Stu, with your podcast, Candace Owens putting us in a position.
	All of you are our angels now because you're helping us.
	What was God's divine intervention that we lived to talk about this, that somebody has to listen now.
	And I kind of think we're better off where we are with this platform because we had no platform before.
	We had no way to raise funds.
	We had no way to fight to get a congressional thing.
	But now I think I call them the smart people and I'm starting to learn myself to get away from the media out there of the CNNs and the And that's exactly what's happening.
	And I think that's what's going to help us.
	And again, for you too, Stu, to be able to give us your platform to talk about this.
	And anybody we reach is another person that's heard this horror story.
	And we...
	And they can support you again by going where?
	USSLiberty.org.
	That's all you have to put in.
	USSLiberty.org.
	It'll take you to our website.
	We have tabs for donations.
	We have tabs for a ship store.
	We have newsletters in there.
	There's a wealth of a gallery of pictures.
	the pitch, the photographs in there will blow you away on what you would see of the damage and the carnage, the blood, the fire, the things that the damage Well, I hope that every single one of these so-called alternative media, truth-telling, dissident, tip-of-the-information spear platforms will now sit down and talk with you.
	And I hope that this story gets seen by hundreds of millions of people that deserve to know exactly the truth about who it was.
	That instigated and carried out and perpetuated that attack, not only just on your ship, but on Americans and on humanity as a whole.
	That this is not our greatest ally.
	That they are still attacking us yet today.
	That they have propagandized and brainwashed and perverted the education system to omit that story of that attack.
	And I hope that hundreds of millions of people will go and give at least $1 at USSLiberty.org.
	Because with hundreds of millions of dollars, imagine the outreach.
	Imagine what you could accomplish.
	Imagine the sphere of influence that you would have in order to liberate us from the grip of this satanic octopus whose tentacles reach all over the world, especially here in the United States.
	Yeah.
	And you know, our statement of purpose for 58 years, we have a reunion in Norfolk, Virginia this year on June 8th, that weekend.
	We'll be there in Norfolk.
	Can I come?
	Can I be there?
	We'd love to have you there.
	You were with us before, and we'd love to have you speak with our group again and be a part of us.
	We would welcome you to be at that.
	I will be there in June.
	Mark my words.
	Yeah, but the website gives you a lot of information, and if you really want to learn more about the story, that's the place to go.
	Again, Stu, thank you so much for the platform you've given us.
	I would not be obedient in my calling if I didn't.
	And it's my pleasure.
	Mo Schaefer, thank you so much.
	God bless you.
	Thank you.
	Of course.
	So if you want to make that donation, which we all think that you should, head on over to ussliberty.org.
	There it is, ussliberty.org.
	And some of the pictures in here, as Mo was alluding to, are just...
	The USS Liberty.
	Go to ussliberty.org.
	Again, ussliberty.org.
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