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May 25, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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No Wrong Door for Veterans: A Noble Investment or Another Missed Opportunity?
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Since January, folks, we've been hearing about this change.
Change coming to many government entities in our government.
Just the other day, the House of Representatives passed the No Wrong Door for Veterans Act.
It's on its way to the Senate, and there is lots of discussion happening, but really no discussion for you, the American people, to see.
So today we're going to dig into it a little bit.
Have a discussion.
So stick with us.
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Housekeeping has been accomplished.
So, just the other day, the United States House of Representatives passed the No Wrong Door for Veterans Act.
And what this is, And I'll read it here.
I have some of the information pulled up.
It is $52.5 million to be spent every year through fiscal year 2028.
So $52.5 million taxpayer dollars are going to be made available from the VA to Anybody who applies to provide services to further combat the issue in this country we have with veteran suicide.
Now, we all know and we've all heard and been a part of conversations or at least took in information regarding veteran suicide.
And it has been a longstanding issue in this country.
And something that we as a nation, as a government...
And rightfully so.
And I don't want to, what I don't want to do is do today's show and rip the VA apart for making all this money available.
But I do have questions because I think that this is obviously a very, very...
Ending veteran suicide in this country is something that is, in my opinion, profoundly important.
The questions that I've always had about it is, with all of the money that we are spending, all the taxpayer dollars invested into combating this issue, It's alarming at times when we hear information and we take in information about this topic that we're only at where we're at.
I mean, how long have we heard 22 veterans a day kill themselves?
And then we hear information, as we've discussed here before, we hear information that that number has gone down to 17. It's been as low as maybe 16 or 15 at times.
Year after year, but the average seems to be, or at least what's reported all the time, is around 22 veterans a day are taking their own lives.
And yet still we have people who are scratching their head and wondering why.
And we have all kinds of professionals in the field, right?
All kinds of people that are industry-leading experts.
At combating veteran suicide, but have we really even made that big of a dent?
Have we made a big enough dent to hang our hat and call it some kind or any kind of success?
And I don't know.
I think the jury's out on that.
I think that if we save one life, then our efforts are worth it.
But when we start talking about all the other issues we have in this country and all the things that are going on in our communities, I think that it's a reasonable question to ask about how this $52.5 million a year is going to be allocated.
And so let's just kind of read through a little bit of this quick.
The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs has announced availability of approximately $52.5 million in grants aimed at bolstering suicide prevention efforts for veterans.
These funds are part of the Staff Sergeant Parker Gordon Fox Suicide Prevention Grant Program or the Staff Sergeant Fox SPGP.
Boy, that's a hell of a title, isn't it?
I'm not quite sure who Staff Sergeant Parker Gordon Fox was.
I assume that he has passed away and he's no longer with us.
That's why they named this thing after him.
These things are designed to empower community-based organizations to provide critical support for veterans at risk.
While the initiative underscores the VA's commitment in addressing and Addressing the pressing issue of veteran suicide, it also raises important questions about oversight and effective utilization of funds.
Here's where my interest peaks.
Quite some time ago, we did a six to eight episode series about the VA caregiver program with Robin Stitt, who is a caregiver.
She's a wife of a severely disabled veteran who suffered.
Most or all of his injuries or issues while engaged in combat.
And there was a lot of talk about services for in-home caregivers to veterans.
Where the money was being allocated, the services that were available, a lot of talk about repetitive services.
And we hear that a lot in issues of the VA, that there are a lot of organizations or contractors, if you will, that provide redundant services to another contractor or the VA proper.
And so questions about all of that comes up.
Since President Trump took over, and Elon and his band of misfit toys, the Doge crew, who did amazing work, by the way, once they found all of this malarkey going on, which I believe we were told about even before the election.
We've been hearing about it for years.
All of this just crazy, insane, government-funded initiatives.
Going on all over the place, all over the world.
Well, Doug Collins and President Trump had talked about, once we find this fraud, waste, and abuse, if it exists, once we figure out where all the money has gone, where it's sitting, if anywhere, we're going to reallocate the funds.
We're going to give some back to the American people.
We heard about that, some $850,000.
$50 check or something that every American was supposed to get.
Who knows what's going on with that issue.
But the one thing that we did hear about was when we finally decide on programs to cut and things to cut out of the VA budget, and we can start reallocating some of that money, that's what we're going to do.
To make things better for veterans.
Okay.
So, allegedly...
We talked last week about the new homeless veteran VA facility that the president announced that's going to be built in West LA.
And the money for that was coming as reallocation from money being wasted on illegal immigrants and providing them resources and housing and all kinds of benefits.
Before, not only the American people, but before veterans that our government talks about are so important to our community.
And so, my first question is, okay, so we got 52.5 million extra dollars to put towards veteran suicide initiatives.
Fantastic.
Where's that money coming from?
And what bullshit malarkey did that come from?
That would be cool to know.
Maybe chat GPT or Gronk or some AI software can help us find that.
But I'm guessing that it hasn't been reported yet.
Or if at all, if it ever will be.
And where is this money going?
So back to the caregiver issue.
Robin and I talked a whole lot about places like the Elizabeth Dole Foundation, who has been siphoning money from the taxpayers via the VA under this muse that they do all kinds of super amazing, fantastic, beautiful things for caregivers who take care of veterans in their homes.
And I'm sure that there are things that are positive.
But we also talked about a whole lot of wasting of money.
We also talked about a whole lot of promises unkept that weren't delivered on by the Elizabeth Dole Foundation and the millions and millions and maybe at this point even a billion or two dollars, if not way more.
And where has it all gone?
If you ask the caregivers, They didn't see any relief.
They didn't get anything extra.
There was no extra services.
There were no extra anything.
In fact, they were purging families out of the system.
And so, when this came up, it made me think about that.
What kind of community partners?
Are we talking about here?
And maybe these are things that we need to keep an eye on.
This thing is not into effect yet.
In fact, it hasn't even passed the Senate, but it did pass through the House of Representatives.
And the scuttlebutt is that it should have no problem.
It should have no problem getting through the Senate.
And so, if that's true, then questions should be asked about who's eligible to apply for this grant.
Who's eligible to apply for this money?
And I believe each organization can apply for, let me see here, I had it.
It was like $750,000 a year to provide these services or something like that.
But they tout this as a renewed commitment.
This no wrong door for veterans is a renewed commitment by the VA, they say, to combat veteran suicide.
And so it goes on to say this, the recent passage of the No Wrong Door for Veterans Act reauthorizes and modifies the Staff Sergeant Fox SPGP through fiscal year 28. The key provisions include adjusting the maximum grant amounts and providing additional funding per individual served.
What is that number, you ask?
How much money per individual?
Are these organizations able to spend on each person that comes through the door to ask or that requires services?
The answer to that is $10,000.
Now, let's see, I have this here.
$10,000 per individual is intended to support a comprehensive range of suicide prevention services, including the following.
Outreach and engagement, identifying and connecting with veterans at risk of suicide.
Okay, so here's a question I have.
Our goal as a country is to end the real epidemic, which they say is veteran suicide.
But my question is, is it possible?
Is it absolutely possible to eradicate this issue from the face of the earth?
And I think the answer to that is probably not.
I seem to think that if a person, whether you're a veteran or not, has their heart set on committing suicide, they're going to do it.
They're going to find a way.
We can remove weapons.
We can try to influence and limit risky behavior.
We can take away booze, we can take away their belts, we can take away their shoelaces, we can do all of those things.
At the end of the day, if a person really has committed to themselves to do such a heinous act as this, they're going to do it.
So I don't know that we are going to end this altogether, but I think that we can make a big dent.
And so outreach and engagement.
How do we do that other than looking somebody in the eye, straight-faced, and asking them if they're going to hurt themselves today?
And if that's what they mean, then that's what they mean.
I mean, there's really no other way to get around it, in my opinion.
There's no way to get around that question.
You've got to just ask it and be serious and then shut up and let them respond.
Much like a sales deal, right?
First person to talk loses the deal.
I believe it's the same here.
If you think somebody is considering taking themselves deep, you have to ask them and then shut the hell up and let them answer.
And read them.
Mental health screenings.
Conducting baseline assessments using VA-approved protocols, such as the Columbia Suicide Severity Rating Scale.
And this is a checklist.
The questions I get on answer, you give your answers, and based on your score.
They are able to ascertain how suicidal you might be.
This is bullshit.
I don't know that there's really any real value to this.
As a person who has been through the screening process, any veteran who has been to the VA, Feeling the greatest.
You weren't doing the best.
Not necessarily were you suicidal, but maybe you were a little depressed.
Maybe you're down in the dumps.
Maybe you didn't portray that you were having a great day.
And if you have and you were in a VA facility, chances are you've been asked this Columbia Suicide Severity Rating Scale questions.
Education.
Providing suicide risk and prevention education to families and communities.
How do you educate?
How do you educate somebody to know that suicide is coming?
To know that somebody is about to do this thing?
Maybe we can educate people about what suicidal people might portray.
The things they might say.
The things they might intend to give away or try to give away.
Things they say about not being around tomorrow and all those basic things.
And it all comes back to looking them straight in the eye and asking them if they have a plan to hurt themselves today.
Clinical services.
Offering emergency treatment and case management services.
Peer support.
Facilitating peer support services to promote recovery and resilience.
Now, so far on the list, in my opinion, this is one of the most important things.
If we're going to spend $52.5 million a year and we're going to build up massive peer-to-peer support programs in groups or circles or whatever you want to call them, I think that's a good idea.
One of the best ways, in my opinion, in my experience, working with veterans for quite a long time in many different arenas, employment, housing, and government.
When I worked for the congressman, we did a lot of casework and stuff like that.
And in all of those instances, talking to any veteran who was seeking out the services in which I was there to provide, That also displayed that maybe they're having a rough day.
All of them said, when asked the question, what would help, man?
What can we do to help you out with this idea that you don't want to be here?
And every one of them said that they just need someone to talk to that understands.
I just need to talk to somebody who understands where I've been, maybe what I'm thinking, how I'm feeling, what I've seen, the other things that I've tried to help myself that didn't work for me.
Because a lot of these journeys to get out of this suicidal tendency, if that's what we want to call it, a lot of them lead veterans in particular to the same.
And I believe that if somebody were to come to me and say that they were not having a great day, they weren't feeling real good, and they have some dangerous thoughts, I would be able to instantly relate.
Because I've been there.
I've been there.
I've been to a place that's dark.
I've been to a place that you feel alone.
And it is helpful.
It was helpful to talk to somebody who maybe had been there before also.
But at the very least, at least wore the same clothes I wore.
That maybe walked in the same areas and walked on the same sand overseas that I walked on.
Or maybe walked through the same hallways in the same barracks in some base around the world where I might have been stationed for a week, a year, or four years, or wherever it was, however long it was, depending on anybody's situation.
That common ground, in my opinion, is what is so great about peer-to-peer counseling groups.
Because it doesn't seem like counseling.
It seems like you're getting together with a few people who have lived the life that you've lived to a certain extent and can also wear the same t-shirt that you brought home and may have also been struggling with the same demons that you struggle with.
So peer-to-peer support, I agree with that one and I think it's a great initiative.
But we need to take a break.
We're out of time for the segment.
We'll be right back.
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Okay, let's continue about the No Wrong Door Act.
Okay, we ended with peer support on the list of services, preventative services, that this act, and it's $10,000 per patient.
That we can spend.
Peer support was the last one we talked about.
Benefits assistance.
Assisting with VA benefits and coordinating other federal, state, and local benefits.
Veterans already get that.
They already get those services.
And so if this is part of this massive $52.5 million a year budget to further combat veteran suicide, I would say that that initiative, for anybody applying for a grant from this pot of money to provide services to combat veteran suicide,
if their thing is to talk about helping veterans secure benefits, I would go on a limb and say that's probably not a good use of the money.
Because veterans already get those services.
They get it from their counties.
There's other organizations out there.
We have congressionally chartered services like the VFW and the Legion and the DAV and the Military Order of the Purple Heart and all these other congressionally chartered services that we can get from congressionally chartered organizations such as those.
Emergent needs support.
Addressing immediate needs related to health care.
Daily living, financial planning, transportation, temporary income support, fiduciary services, legal assistance, and childcare assistance.
Here's the thing.
There are many issues that plague veterans in our communities, especially ones that are struggling with suicidal ideations.
I believe that a large part of them, based on my experience, a large part of the reason that these issues come about for these men and women is just because they get in this rut, they get in this hole.
And when it rains, it pours, man.
And folks really have a tough time figuring out how to dig themselves out.
Coupled with other issues that we know to be true about the veteran experience.
Is that sometimes it's super difficult.
Super difficult to just ask for the help that you need.
There's a lot of pride involved for a lot of people.
There's this fear of failure or being looked at differently.
I think also is something for people.
I mean, hell, even we get people that comment on these shows.
They comment on things over on YouTube, on my Three Clicks Media channel.
That, well, I'm a veteran and I never needed to ask for help.
I just figured it out.
Well, that's great.
That's great.
But not everybody's the same.
And I believe that these things become very important to the folks that need them because they are in a spot.
They are in a spot where they need a little hand.
They need a little pick-me-up.
They need a little help.
And so if you're one of those people that figured it out, And you believe that asking for help makes you a big sissy or whatever else, then okay, that's fine.
That's fine.
But there are folks that aren't able to do that.
And if it wasn't an issue in our community, we wouldn't have nearly 22 people a day take their own lives.
And so these are things I believe are a good use.
Of the time and money of organizations that are looking to help veterans through this issue.
Helping them figure out how to navigate paying your child support arrears, right?
Like maybe that's an issue.
Fell behind on your child support.
Now you can't see your kid.
That really affects people's day-to-day operations, if you will.
Credit card debt.
Maybe we have Vehicles that are broken down and we can't get to and from work.
We can't get our kids to and from child care or to school or whatever.
And I believe that when folks are already in a distraught state, adding these other pressures on just help bury them further.
And I think that veterans end up in a spot where they don't see the light at the end of the tunnel or it's not as bright as they think it should be.
And it's easier.
As horrible as that sounds, sometimes it seems as though people think that it's easier to just keep spiraling, and when I've had enough, I've had enough, and I'll go.
I'll go, I'll be gone, and nobody will miss me.
And in fact, people might be relieved.
Because whatever issues it is I'm bringing to the fold will no longer be an issue.
I'll just be gone, out of sight, out of mind type thing.
And we know, we know from going through the experience of having our battle buddies, our brothers and our sisters, take themselves deep anyway.
We know that that's not a good answer.
We know that that's not acceptable.
So, emergent needs support.
I believe is a very good use of the time, a good use of the money.
Help people not only just dig themselves out, but help them understand how to keep themselves from getting back into that position.
And I think that part of that initiative is to just very simply explain and have these conversations about What it is that got you here in the first place.
Here's what we did or what we're going to do to fix it.
But the conversation doesn't stop there.
The conversation goes another step and talks about how do we not get back into this place?
If it's because of medical reasons, if it's because of financial reasons, if it's because of the...
And of course, none of this, none of this stuff will work unless the individuals that need the assistance are going to be bought into it.
And they're going to participate.
They're going to be honest about their situation, what they've done or have not done to fix it, and how we're going to move forward and build bigger and better to get back to where you're at.
Because at the end of the day, folks, let's always remember that at one point in the lives of all of these veterans, they were in a place like basic training, for example, or their first duty station.
You were in a place.
Where you may have been or felt alone.
I mean, not everybody went to basic training with their best friend from the childhood, right?
A lot of people went by themselves.
Had to learn how to work as a team and contribute.
But at one point in their lives, these folks were standing tall, fresh haircuts, cleanly shaven face.
I don't think it's required that the lady shave, but if it is, cleanly shaving face, in the right place, at the right time, in the right uniform, doing the right thing.
And life might have been challenging, but life was good.
We're getting paid.
We're getting fed.
We get three hots and a cot.
All kinds of stuff.
We're learning skills.
Whatever job it was you picked, you're learning how to do all that.
So helping these folks who are at the end of their rope, ready to take themselves deep, reminding them of that, building that vision back in their mind of them in their uniform, them doing the right thing, them standing tall, clean, shaven, and a soldier.
I don't know that there's a whole lot of people that go through that basic training experience in the beginning of their military career and don't feel proud about it.
Maybe there are some.
Maybe there are some.
And maybe there were a lot more during Vietnam when folks were getting drafted and they didn't have a choice.
They had to go.
But I think that if we can show each person who is ready to commit suicide that vision of themselves.
And get them talking about how they felt, what they had to sacrifice to be there, for some, what it took to just be eligible to get there, and the work that you had to put in to complete it.
I believe that that is motivating for people, and it can be motivating again.
Let's move on.
Innovative approaches.
This is an interesting one.
Implementing non-traditional and innovative treatment practices as deemed appropriate by the VA.
It's pretty vague, isn't it?
I would hope that something like innovative approaches is going to dig into things like MDMA treatment, psilocybin treatments.
Some of these non-traditional treatments, people always talk about, well, mushrooms and MDMA and blah, blah, blah, and why would we drug our veterans?
I get it.
I get where they're coming from.
But I would also say that we need to take time to do the research.
Research and hear from veterans who are currently out of their own pockets and out of their own initiative to go find these treatments, pay for them, and they're quite spendy from what I understand.
But they're having great success.
It almost seems as if they talk about remapping their mind.
Reliving this experience that plagues them.
But in their current consciousness, if you will.
It's almost like, from what's described, it's almost like being in this traumatic experience as an onlooker.
And watching yourself go through it.
And knowing what you know now.
Hopefully having the ability to better understand what's happening to you in that instance.
And thinking about it and feeling about it a little bit different way, which in turn, they say, just helps you to recover from these PTSD symptoms and this depression and these suicidal ideations.
And getting yourself out of that funk by understanding what happened to you better.
Now, I don't know if it works.
I haven't done it.
But I have talked to a couple people who have first-hand experience, have traveled to places like Oregon where it's legal to do it.
Recently in Colorado, it was made legal for medical purposes.
And so there are people that are traveling to different parts of this country to get these treatments, and they are reporting that it is having profound, profound Positive effects on them and their lives, and they're just living a better life.
And so I understand the narrative that, well, we can't give our veterans drugs.
We can't drug them.
We can't feed them full of mushrooms and ecstasy and all these anayahuasca or whatever it is that people talk about that these people are taking.
The ones I've talked to have done MDMA.
Treatments that are facilitated with an expert, a medical professional of some sort that stays with you the whole time you're going through this experience.
You do it in their facility, in a room that's comfortable with people you know if you want, but there is always somebody there to monitor and to help guide you through this experience that you are going to have.
It's not like a veteran walks into a pharmacy or to some clinic.
And walks out with a bag of drugs and goes home and just gets rip-roaring, fucked up.
And then their whole life's better.
That's not the way this works.
So innovative approaches.
Hopefully things like that are going to be part of that conversation.
And these organizations who are providing this service, which is not cheap, will be able to use some of this money to further that initiative.
A good use of the money and the time, in my opinion, because we hear from people using it that it works.
Why would we doubt it?
Of course, there's all kinds of research.
There's all kinds of investigating that is being done and probably will continue.
So as long as we're doing it the right way, it's not being abused, I think it's worthwhile.
It's worth checking out and furthering that conversation.
And then finally, additional services.
Providing other necessary services to improve mental health status and reduce suicidal risk as determined appropriate by the VA.
So, the VA is calling all the shots, of course.
This is going to be their program.
Here at the end, though, we talk about concerns regarding fund utilization.
Some stakeholders have expressed concerns about the potential misuse of the $10,000 per individual allocation.
I'm sure that many people are concerned about it.
Specifically, there is apprehension that funds could be claimed for minimal services, such as brief screenings without follow-up or disrupting informational materials about substantive engagement.
Critics advocate for clearer definitions and stricter guidelines to ensure that reimbursements are tied to meaningful, evidence-based interventions.
So what they're talking about here is, let's just say for conversation's sake, some nonprofit applies for their grant out of this fund, and they're screening all of their veterans and asking them if they're suicidal.
And that's all they do.
There's no follow-up.
There's no other tests.
What did they talk about up here?
The Columbia Suicide Severity Rating Scale.
So, they are aiming to prevent these types of things.
Hey, thanks for coming in today.
I know that you got a bunion, right?
But let me ask you, you're a veteran.
Are you suicidal today?
Do you have any plans of hurting yourself or anything like that?
No?
Okay, great.
Have you in the past had any ideations or any thoughts of hurting yourself?
Oh, you have.
Okay, and then we annotate that.
Do you want to talk more about that with me, or do you want me just to write it down?
Okay.
And so then we just write it down, and then there's no follow-up.
We don't talk about it again unless the veteran brings it up.
Anyhow, I don't believe that this is a good allocation of the money.
And so, however they plan to work this out should be interesting.
To address concerns, the VA requires grantees to use validated tools and assessments to measure the effectiveness of services provided.
Grantees must collect pre- and post-service data on participants' mental health status, well-being, financial stability, social support, and social support to evaluate the impact of their programs.
So these programs are going to be required to report back their successes and their failures.
And this is where I believe sometimes it will or could get sticky.
Who's really going to audit these places?
Who's really going to take all of these things into account and then hold them accountable?
And who's going to go through their records?
I mean, how is all that going to work?
These are questions that maybe we should be asking.
Let's see here.
There was one more piece of information I wanted to touch on.
I think that some of the other concerns are being raised by veterans themselves.
Things like here it says, betrayal by broken promises.
Veterans are promised.
their promised support when they come home.
Before we joined...
Like, you know, well, don't worry, man, if you get hurt or something happens to you or this or that, the VA will take care of you for the rest of your life.
You always have an option to get medical care at the VA.
Well, but that isn't always true.
It isn't always true.
There's needs-based stuff.
You have to qualify.
You have to qualify.
And so veterans will, in my opinion, they will sign up for services.
They will get to the VA clinic and then find out, well, there's more paperwork.
And they're going to ask you questions about your finances and other insurance and this and that and the other thing.
And there are things that veterans do not qualify for under VA guidelines.
And so then that narrative from that veteran and many others that go through the same thing are that, well, they promised us this and they're not going to give it to us.
And here we are again, more broken promises.
And I think that maybe for veterans who are a little bit older, maybe not the newer guys, the last five years or so.
There's a lot of this talk about VA broken promises, and even on this show we talk about it all the time.
And clearly it's prevalent, right?
There's a lot of things talked about that don't happen.
But I also think that veterans at some point have been misinformed or miseducated about how and what it is they can obtain from the VA when their service is over.
And so maybe better education on the front end for that would help things like this to not be scrutinized as harshly when they come up.
And so, I mean, I think at the end of the day, I think that this can be a really good thing for the veteran community.
This could be a game changer.
This could really knock our numbers down from around 22 a day to maybe, what if we got to 10?
What if we got to 8?
What if we got to 3?
I mean, of course, the goal is zero, but I don't know that we will ever get there.
I think that, unfortunately, we're always going to have people around that aren't going to be able to get it out of their mind.
It's tragic.
But I think that we will always have veterans who feel like they have no other option for whatever reason.
And so things like this, folks, I think are important to talk about.
We need to keep talking about them and keep them fresh in our minds.
The No Wrong Door for Veterans Act you're not going to see on Fox News or CNN or MSNBC.
They're not going to talk about it, is my guess.
I mean, it happened a few days ago.
We still haven't seen much about it.
If anything, you've got to really scour.
Maybe some of these AI things, maybe ChatGPT is your go-to for no wrong door for veterans information.
That's all the time that we have today, folks, but I want to thank you for joining us.
This fight to end veteran suicide is a noble one.
I, we here at the studio, support it.
At least here at the Richard Leonard Show, we support it.
We really would like to see that number go down drastically in months and years to come.
Thank you for joining us.
As always, it's been a pleasure, and we'll see you next week.
Have a great rest of your weekend.
Good night.
Good night.
As Christians, in a Christian country, we have a right to be, at minimum, agnostic about the leadership being all Jewishly occupied.
We literally should be at war with fucking Israel a hundred times over, and instead we're just sending them money, and it's fucking craziness.
Look at the state of Israel, look at the state of Tel Aviv, and look at the state of Philadelphia.
You tell me where this money's going, you tell me who's benefiting from this.
I am prepared to die in the battle.
Fighting this monstrosity that would wish to enslave me and my family and steal away any brights to my property And if you've got a foreign state, you've got dual citizens in your government, who do you think they're supporting?
God, right now, would you protect the nation of Israel and protect those of us, not just our church, but every church in the world and in this nation that's willing to put their neck on the line and say, we stand with them!
We stand with them!
You can look at Trump's cabinet.
You can look at Biden's cabinet.
for Jews.
I have a black friend in school.
I have nothing against blacks.
She has nothing against me.
She understands where I'm coming from.
Excuse me, I'm a Jew, and I'd just like to say that, you know, in our Bible it says that you're like animals.
The Jews crucified our God.
The Jews crucified our God.
Here on the break, folks, we're going to talk about mushrooms.
What do you know about mushrooms?
Specifically, Coriolis versicolor mushrooms.
Well, I don't know a whole lot, but I have some friends here that do.
So I want to introduce you to Kurt and Kristen Ludlow.
Hello, folks.
How are you?
Great.
How are you doing?
Very good.
We have limited time.
I don't want you to feel rushed, but I'd like you to tell us quickly about Coriolis versicolor mushrooms.
This breakthrough that seemingly not a whole lot of people have been informed about or know about, but we're here to change that.
So help us out.
What do you know?
Absolutely.
Well, let me give you some background real quick on it and how we got our hands on it.
First and foremost, one of our partners here at the company, his mother was dealing with a very severe issue that affected her lung.
She was attending Sloan Kettering.
That issue ended up getting worse.
They tried everything medically they could to resolve it.
Nothing worked.
And so they gave her two months to live.
He started reaching out to friends and family regarding her circumstances.
And her cousin or her nephew out in Japan reached back and said, look, I have something.
It's just in a capsule form.
It's a mushroom.
We have a proprietary way we extract it.
He was talking to her son, his cousin, and said, why don't you have your mom try it and just see if this might help her out in any way.
And so she started taking it.
And after 30 days, she noticed quite a considerable difference in the way she's feeling.
Month two went by, more improvement.
Month three, she's feeling as if there's no issues whatsoever.
And she goes back to Sloan Kettering.
Sure enough, they run lab work on her and find that condition to no longer be there.
And so they were flabbergasted.
They wanted to know what she was doing.
And of course, she was able to reach out to her nephew and bring all the information that they requested to them.
And that's where the first clinical study started here in the United States.
And from there, MD Anderson started studying it, the American Cancer Society.
Loma Linda, Harvard.
It's been published in the Library of Medicine many times, and today there's hundreds of studies on this mushroom.
And what they concluded was that it didn't cure, it didn't mitigate it, it didn't prevent anything, but specifically it would modulate the immune system and get it working optimally again.
And if we can get our immune system working optimally again, I think you can agree that it's the best way to resolve any type of issue that we might be dealing with, because that's what it's designed to do.
And so for years, you know, if that happened to your mother, our partner Simon could not keep from telling anyone that would listen to him about it.
And he started getting all types of reports back from different people with all kinds of different things that they were dealing with, that they were noticing some great results with it.
And it wasn't just for sick, you know, people.
It was for people.
That didn't want to get sick, that wanted to be proactive versus reactive.
And many great things that people were saying with renewed energy, feeling younger, sleeping better, things like that.
And so eight years ago, what ended up happening is one of our partners, aside from Simon, Steve, he lost a dog due to cancer.
Within two months, Gino, our other partner, also lost a dog due to cancer and two of their children.
They were sitting around looking into it and the dogs are all between the ages of four and eight.
They were young and they weren't happy about it.
And here they had this mushroom that, you know, they'd been getting out to people for years as well as us.
They thought to themselves, wow, I wonder if this is safe for animals.
And sure enough, they found a study done by the University of Pennsylvania declaring that dogs that were taking this product were living three times as long as the dogs that weren't that had a very aggressive form of cancer.
And so at that point, that's where Pet Club 24/7 was born because they knew that they had an incredible strain.
And here's what they found out, Richard, is One in three allergies.
Six million new cases of diabetes are going on.
They're medicating them with human medications.
And our pets are living half as long as they used to.
In the 70s, the average age of a golden retriever was 17. Today, that average age is nine.
and they wanted to do something about it.
So they added this mushroom into incredibly...
You know, it's the foods, treats and toys they're eating.
The regulations are very loose and it's causing all types of issues as a result of that on top of all the other things that are going on.
And that's where the company was born and that's where we are today.
That's a beautiful story.
There are so many people that are looking for something that's not from the mainstream, not from Big Pharma, or whatever the case may be.
I mean, we all have these stories, right, about Grandma's old home remedies.
And I'll tell you what, I'm super interested in this because I have a dog.
His name is Gus.
He's a Bernadoodle.
He's five or six years old.
He was supposed to be a Mini.
He's now a 108-pound lap dog, and he does struggle with some hip issues only at five or six years old, and he also has these subdermal, almost acne-like bumps on his skin along his back and his side.
And so as you're explaining all this, I'm thinking about Gus.
I'm thinking, man, we need to get him these mushrooms.
I also...
And I know a few that have been through two and are on their third dog now.
And it's a real struggle for some of these guys because the training's long.
They get super attached.
take these pets everywhere and so this type of product the mushroom uh i think would be perfect for the veteran community as well Do people use them for these pets as well, on top of some other supplements or anything else that might be out there on the market?
Absolutely, because regardless of what...
Their immune system is always going to be their first, their best bet, right?
It's intelligently designed to handle everything in the body.
Repair, recover, rebuild, regulate, renew, rebalance, everything that's happening inside of the body.
So especially therapeutic dogs or dogs that are trained to do jobs where they have to focus and they have to have stamina and endurance.
We have spent a lot of time and resources training them.
It's very important that we're We've been so blessed.
God has given us a really pure and potent strain of this mushroom, and we've perfected the extraction process.
So that's why we're seeing such positive results relatively quickly from anything that you can think of with dogs, cats, horses, even people And we just want to be good stewards with what we've been given and take good care of it and be a part of restoring creation.
So especially in those conditions, we encourage you to get your pet on the Coriolis Versa Color Mushroom.
Or if you're a veteran yourself and maybe you've been through some trauma and your body's been through a lot mentally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, let's get this mushroom into your system so that you can get that support that you need to really be able to recover from the inside out.
Well, and it makes a lot of sense to me, right?
I mean, let's get our immune systems working as our creator intended it to instead of feeding it all this other junk.
And who God knows what they give us in pill form and in our food and all that other stuff these days.
So this is actually a very refreshing process.
Explain to us, we've got a couple minutes left, why Pet Club 24-7?
Why is it put out as a club?
I think that this is an important thing to touch on.
Yeah, it was really important to us.
We feel very called to do what we're doing, and we know that we're able to offer the world a gift.
And so we never really wanted to build a company.
We want to build a community.
That's the idea behind it, is that if we stand up together and lock arms, change the way that we're doing things so that we can get different results and educate each other, make each other aware, connect each other with better solutions and better options that are going to give us better results.
It's a lot more affordable in many cases.
We believe that this community can truly change the way that pets and people are being treated just by being a voice for those that don't have one.
Name of the company is Pet Club 24-7 is because we want to be a community of people that are solution-oriented, that do something about it, that don't wait for other people to fix our problems or solve what's going on, that we just stand up, control what we can control, and contribute how we can contribute through this community.
That's beautiful.
See, folks, here at the Stu Peters Network, we're here to help you feel better.
We're so thankful that you guys are here, Pet Club 24 /7.
Kurt and Christine, we're very happy to have you.
Thank you for everything that you've done, bringing this stuff out to people.
Let's get healthy again.
What was the movement that you talked about, Kurt?
I said, you know, we have the Maha movement.
Yes.
We also have it here for our animals.
Make animals healthy again.
Absolutely.
We're in a fight to do so, just like on the human side.
And people can count on the fact that there's no bad ingredients in our products.
Everything made in human-grade whole food commercial kitchens, all sourced from the U.S. and made right here in the U.S. Very important.
Well, Kurt, Kristen, thank you very much for being here.
Folks, Pet Club 24-7, make sure you get there.
Get your supplies of mushrooms, not just for you, but for your pets, dog, cats, horses, all those things.
Pet Club 24-7.
Guys, thank you very much for being here.
Let's connect soon.
I'm going to get my supply, and I'm going to report back for me and Gus to make sure that I'm super excited to talk to you guys again.
We'll see you very soon.
Thank you.
Thank you, Richard.
All right.
Bye-bye.
There's nothing we wouldn't do for our pets.
They're like our children.
Our friends at Pet Club 24-7 have developed natural products that contain the most potent strain of a mushroom that's been used for thousands of years to help support the immune system.
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