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May 22, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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George Floyd 5 Yr Anniversary: Trump Pardons Derek Chauvin?
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Well, here we are almost at the five-year anniversary of the entire George Floyd incident.
Remember that during the pandemic, it couldn't get any crazier with COVID happening and lockdowns and the entire world shutting down, doing things we've never done before and feeling like we're living in a prison.
And then all of a sudden, this insane George Floyd incident happens where this man named George Floyd...
Was killed by supposedly this officer, this police officer named Derek Chauvin, kneeling on him for eight or nine minutes.
And then after that incident, the world changed yet again with riots and protests erupting everywhere in favor of and support of this man called George Floyd.
And it's been obviously a few years after that, but so many anomalies have come to light.
So much new information has come to light since this incident that we now know At least closer to the truth of what really happened that day with George Floyd.
And is he really the man that the media and the deep state have made him out to be?
Well, there's nobody that really understands George Floyd and the timeline and everything that happened with it better than our guest, who I'm going to introduce to you right now.
And this is Miriam Hynem.
She wrote the book and the documentary called The Real Timeline.
George Floyd, The Real Timeline.
And we'll talk about where to find it in just a few minutes.
But it's incredible.
She breaks down the real timeline of what actually happened with George Floyd.
And she's researched this topic, honestly, the ins and outs of it, better than anybody I know.
And she's doing a great job of continuing to keep it in the spotlight.
Where the media just wants to wash it all away and pretend like all these anomalies don't exist.
So Miriam, it's so great to have you back on Shots Fired.
It's been a while since you've been on, but it's a perfect time because we're, again, we're approaching the anniversary of George Floyd.
So welcome back to the show.
How's it going?
Thank you for having me.
I guess knowing the script of this debacle, knowing that...
They're going to bring it into the media again, and now we have a movement to pardon Derek, who absolutely did not get a fair trial.
However, the real timeline looks at the actual incident.
I purchased the footage from the government, and both the left and the right have suppressed it.
And then this book, which is Operation George Floyd, A Multilayered PSYOP Exposed, is showing All the characters around it and how deep this goes beyond even what the alternative media has learned.
I didn't bank on being an expert on George Floyd.
Well, I love that you say all the characters involved in this because that's what we've kind of learned that this really was.
It's like it was a show.
It was a theater, a theatrical production.
Put on a false flag event.
And there were characters, crisis actors, and so many different people involved that played certain roles to play on the world's heartstrings.
So we'll talk about that in just a minute.
But what's happening right now is Derek Chauvin, there's been talk about President Trump pardoning Derek Chauvin.
This has been going viral.
People are discussing it.
And they said that...
They're gearing up for major riots and civil unrest if Trump pardons Chauvin.
So tell us first, why is this so significant if Trump were to pardon Derek Chauvin, and what would this say to America?
Well, it would say that we live a lie.
Let's consider that JFK, they're having the hearings right now, and that how many decades has it been?
So a colossal book like this is in limited circulation is really for the future, Deanna, long after I'm gone, because we've witnessed the Ministry of Truth rewriting our history and creating division, right?
We went from virus to violence overnight.
Right now, other than these hearings, which is a lot of disclosure in 2025 and people further awakening, is that there's now a movement that was initiated by, I believe, the Daily Wire to pardon him.
So we all deserve a fair trial.
However, the real identity of Derek and the real identity of George, I don't think people, even the alternative media knows, given that these...
Two people worked at El Nuevo Rodeo, and that was covered up.
Now, also consider it's a year and a half later, since Black Friday, that Derek was shanked, and nobody has covered John Tersack's story or the ins and outs of the shanking.
But however, I, the B lady have been speaking to him, the man who stabbed Derek, and he even read my book.
So he understands like he wanted me to raise funds for him.
I'm very censored.
And he said, I may be a cold-blooded murderer, but I'm no liar.
So I think to the extent that even he was taunted.
And you have to consider, why was Derek sent to a prison with a lot of, like, Mexican or...
Gang leaders as opposed to a high, a medium security or high security place, right?
So it's like a patsy.
And then they can stoke discord and have like a Summer of Love sequel.
Yeah.
You raise a lot of really good questions.
Tell us a little bit more about what the trial, you know, most people who are awake understood that this was not a fair trial.
They had a motive from the beginning.
They had a goal.
They had a mission.
And it really felt like kind of just a dog and pony type of trial, like a fake trial, like it was political theater.
Absolutely.
Again, if you were paying attention, you would think that Derek was winning, but there was so much bullying on the part of this persecution team, the prosecutors, sorry, rather, against, like, Two of the officers are already out, Deanna.
You know, Alexander Kang, who's black, and Thomas Lane, who was even taller than George Floyd at six foot seven.
Tu Tao, who was orchestrating the bystanders slash extras.
And then Derek, who ironically, you know...
He ended up in the hospital with 22 wounds, right?
And he punctured his lung, stranger, and he was in the hospital and said, I can't breathe.
Like, look at the irony of that.
So you have a very shocking tape that we're going to play in just a minute.
It's really important.
Nobody's really circulating this.
First, before we play the tape to the audience, introduce it, what it is in the background of it, and then we're going to have the audience hear it.
All right.
So the only information on John Tersack, a.k.a.
Stranger who stabbed Derek, is on my substack, arguably.
There was some mainstream AP that lied, and Stranger realized that they're all liars.
And even though...
The government, the prison system described me to him as a conspiracy theorist, conspiracy theorist, psycho kook that directed a film on the bees.
We connected and I've been speaking to him.
He wanted to put me on his special advisory.
So the week of Black Friday, if you can imagine that Fox and 60 Minutes wants an exclusive with him.
And I have the story, and I order a burger, and that week I got a cockroach in my burger.
Now, yeah, in a little box, like how did the roach get in there?
And then I lost touch with him, and so I sent him my book.
I sent him this book because he's a voracious reader who's been in the slammer for decades.
He read it because in the five-minute conversations at a time, I couldn't tell him.
Why it is that it's dangerous, in a sense, for him and I to talk.
Because he's an FBI informant gone rogue.
He never ratted on his faction.
And the mainstream has lied about him.
And he also arguably has an agreement with the feds that was never cancelled out.
So he's facing 60 years, Deanna.
So in a sense, I guess he has nothing to lose.
This is the conversation of him commenting, even to the point of saying they coerced him in a sense.
They put, from what he told me, lines in rap songs to kind of taunt, you know, leaders to, sorry, there's a plane, to take a stab at him, pun intended, and he feels like he was manipulated.
Because maybe...
You know, he's been in jail for decades.
He doesn't know the extent of the effery.
And I'll say also this, that the Mexican cartel, they have a code of honor.
So in a sense, the government could be using them as a shield with this ravishing of fentanyl.
I mean, everybody knows today someone who's died of fentanyl.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
It's horrible.
So this goes into the Mexican cartels and what was happening in Minnesota.
And let's remember that it was also about bringing in this mail-in voting chicanery BS, right?
So we were protesting.
All of a sudden, people are wearing their face diapers and saying, I can't breathe, while we've been locked down and undergoing tyranny.
What I found, what I wanted to tell you on this one was what I found interesting about, but you didn't really go into it, was the fact that, man, I wish I could have talked to you because I could have elaborated on that, where you said that, where you were talking about showing his, what was it about?
Oh yeah, about his history.
His, you were talking about some woman filed a complaint on him and her 14 year old son.
Yeah.
And that he had pinned him down.
Yeah, it was his signature move.
Now I know that it was his signature move.
Yeah, okay.
Well, look it.
It said over a dozen complaints.
I got to see all of them.
I got to see all the complaints because that's what he was trying to use as his argument.
I told you when I first met him.
Some people, when I came out of the hole, some people introduced me to him initially, and he wanted me to go over his case.
So when someone said he got a raw shake of the hand, whatever, so I was like, all right, I'll take a look.
So, and I look at it, and it was like, he had over a dozen, just like you said, and the majority of them were all women.
Like, he was a creed.
What he would do is, he would, like, say, like, he's seen a hot chick or something, he'll pull her over.
Oh, excuse me, man, you been drinking?
No, no, no, I haven't.
He might step you down to do a sobriety test.
And then, oh, stop resisting, stop resisting.
He'd take her down, and that's what he was, that's what he was known for.
And it's crazy, because he tried to tell me that, oh, I want to use you as a defense to show that seeing none of them died, it was something else that killed Floyd.
It wasn't what I did.
So, I was like, man, you're a sick creep, man.
You're fucking, are you serious?
That's what you're using?
And that's what I just totally think.
Well, the thing is, it is multi-layered.
There were drugs.
They had the drugs there, and they had Maurice, the dude that was with George, just in case things didn't fly.
They threw him under the bus.
You know, they gave him 15 years.
I befriended him, and it shows, like, oh, only some Black Lives Matter?
How about this guy?
You don't give a fuck about him.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I've seen that too.
And then, what's even crazier is how you were saying that there's a very strong twin theme about the...
I didn't know he had a brother and a twin and all that.
And then the fact that I'm a Gemini.
That's interesting.
That is interesting.
Well, he doesn't have a real twin.
They position Steven Jackson as his, like, proverbial twin.
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, I can dig it.
I was just saying, because about the Twin Cities, all that stuff, all you were saying about the, it just.
You have one minute remaining.
Yeah, having a strong fit.
I'll call you back.
Okay.
Having a strong twin theme to it.
So I was like, all right, that's cool.
But what I wanted to do is I want you to get at Tom about the movie that you talked about in there.
I bought all the footage from the United States government.
Do you get now why they're...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I totally get it.
You break it down right there.
I was like, man, Mama B, she going through it.
That's what you're doing.
But that's why I'm saying you and I can relate because when I tell you what they were doing to me from the very beginning, when they wanted me to break on the Arianos, they wanted that time, Well, why can't I record the conversation and play it on my show?
I mean, it's the best I can do.
They have silenced me.
Right, right, right.
I know.
Gosh.
Like, I'm one of the best journalists in this country.
Exactly.
Wow.
So, this guy, so he shanked Derek Chauvin, and Derek Chauvin was, you said how many stabs?
22. That's crazy.
He shared with me the weapon that he manufactured, and also from, I haven't gotten the 100% blow-by-blow, but it seems that they had several interactions.
Maybe a stranger was also taunting him because it was like waiting to happen that someone would take him as a trophy.
Admitted that shanking Derek would be as a trophy.
Now, I thought to myself, like in the book I go into, people don't know that Derek went to the school of assassins.
That is where they train dictators.
And so I'm like, imagine the irony that he trained these combat techniques, maybe in the future to be able to have a...
Gun, knife battle, although Derek wasn't armed, with a Mexican cartel leader in the library.
It's like a sick rendition of Clue.
They were supposed to be in the library with some undisclosed sharp weapon.
That's so bizarre.
I mean, it also speaks to the fact that he was probably, I mean, so many of these players in this game were probably not, you know, Who they say they were in terms of, I think, a lot of them were kind of farm-raised, you know, CIA plants, you know, trained assassin.
I mean, that sounds to me like a CIA kind of trained puppet or plant or actor.
Yes.
Yeah.
I mean, think of it, Deanna.
He graduated as a cook.
Okay.
He graduated.
I talk about the technical college where he graduated, which is where there was, you know, in these false flags, there's characteristics, one of them being a training.
So I found the training.
And when I went to see who put it together, it was this college where he graduated from.
His first job was technically at McDonald's.
So who knows if they primed him and then they just dispose of him.
They don't care about these people that they use.
So absolutely, he deserves a fair trial.
But was he also, I have a chapter on the, if anyone's watched the show, the Ozarks, he was kind of like a Marden bird where he was arguably cleaning his money laundering.
So it's very nuanced and complex.
And I think it's incrementalism or it's in motion to fulfill.
So this is like another episode where they're going to sow more discord between people.
And I would venture to say, whoever's paying attention to these solar flares and what just happened in Portugal, that by the peak of the solar flares, which is July, who knows if America will be disconnected.
So you're saying that there's a synchronicity between the solar flares and...
No, I'm just saying there's going to be more discord.
You know, there's potential, or at least they're sowing the narrative with potential.
Like, I don't know what official response they gave in Portugal, but there are solar flares happening.
And if you look at the cycles, we can argue this is the great reset that they're trying to meld.
Meld us with machine to avoid.
I do also think that the solar flares, from a spiritual point of view, that you could download a lot of information as to what the plan is.
Because transhumanism is the plan.
Right.
For all.
Exactly.
Wow.
Yeah, so I took a segue.
I do go into surveillance post the Derek Chauvin trial, because then there was also the...
The trial of the three officers, and that got very little coverage as well, because little bits and bobs were being disclosed in different hearings, and I was getting pool notes.
So I had to, you know, usually you have one pool reporter, so it's like secondhand journalism, but I signed up to all of them.
Because with my context, I can look for patterns.
And I remember I called one guy that worked at NBC, and I started my career at MSNBC.
And I said, you know, that's not George's car.
And he's like, I know.
So I was like, oh, so he knows things that he's not reporting on.
And then he said this, my boss told me not to speak to people like you.
I'm like...
Like, I'm thinking people like me, like, you mean real journalists?
And who's your boss?
Like, who's, like, a mafioso?
Right.
That's so crazy.
Yeah.
So we'll see what happens.
I did predict in the book that he will get a pardon, even though the Supreme Court denied his case, and it's escalated.
So I wonder, I haven't looked actually in PACER to see who's initiating this pardon other than the Daily Wire.
That would be actually a good thing to look into.
But nonetheless, nobody's covering strangers' side of things.
And the media hasn't come on the record as to what happened, right?
No.
Exactly.
And I don't think they ever will.
If he gives them a pardon, it's going to be all, you know, oh, Trump gives pardons to horrible people.
This is another example of that.
To killers, to racists, it's going to be a big...
And then, of course, they'll have their planned astroturfed riots ready to go and send America into civil unrest.
And if he doesn't pardon him, too, now there's going to be some pushback from the right, probably, or people who know the truth and say, why didn't you give this guy a pardon?
He didn't have a fair trial, obviously.
And we do know that more information about George Floyd have come out.
He didn't die of that.
He died from fentanyl overdose.
And, you know, there's a lot to be said about who George Floyd really was, too.
So, you know, the entire event being orchestrated as the false flag that I believe it was, just like the January 6th was orchestrated, it was a false flag.
We know so much information about it and evidence that points to it, just like George Floyd, but it's like, will that evidence ever really make it into the mainstream enough to have people understand why Trump could pardon Derek Chauvin?
Yeah, I think it's so multilayered that most people are not paying attention to your point on who George Floyd is, that I have receipts to show that he was like, they took three different people.
And mixed him into one.
And to think that there's scholarships that are named after George Floyd today.
And if anyone cared about, you know, Maurice Lester Hall, who was with him, they trudged up his 2018 pimping.
And I did an exclusive, like a two-hour exclusive.
Nobody covered it.
And the day after the exclusive is when they arrested him.
And it was suggested to me that I was involved in his arrest, but he's a...
He's a loose string.
And they also had him in case things didn't fly.
They could pin the tail on the donkey.
But yeah, those are loose ends.
And I'm sure they banked on someone stabbing Derek.
Maybe they didn't bank on him surviving.
And given, again, like, wouldn't you ask, why are you sending him to this?
Why is there, like, eliciting violence in rap songs to kill him like a trophy?
And who's paying attention?
Because that's another thing.
They have also banked on George Floyd fatigue.
But this is, like, this is, like, a deep state whodunit thrill.
Yeah, it really is.
Because it looks at all the different characters, and it is interesting, and it's like, oh, my God.
You know, I had one woman say, like, how did you find all of this?
And I was covering it in real time.
And I'm sorry if I've already said this, like all of these footnotes, I mean, at least 15% Deanna are gone from even archive.org, right?
So they've, they've scrubbed it.
And here's this chick, me, who's, it's like, I didn't plan on spending five years of my life.
This was very dark.
And I was saying to myself.
When I'm done with this book, like I'm kind of resigning as a journalist.
I'm identifying as a cosmic journalist.
Yeah.
Because it's like I've reached the glass ceiling and I wanted to have my own great reset.
And I did after that.
I just kind of had like a burnout of like, you know, Zach Voorhees, who kind of started me on this odyssey, the Google whistleblower who was in the jungle and said, hey, Mimi, can you come and choke me?
And I'm like, what?
And he's like, I'm doing George Floyd challenge.
And so I hesitantly stepped on his neck.
And then I'm like, you know, if you really want to know how he died, you have to call the medical examiner.
So I was literally the first person in the country to call the medical examiner.
And then a few days later, they told me it's going to take weeks and weeks and weeks.
And then a day and a half later, CNN busted out some preliminary reports.
So I was like, huh, that's weird.
You know, he would tease me and be like, you're still doing this book, Mimi?
And I'm like, you wait, dude.
This is like for the future.
This is not for glory.
This is just to have a record.
Yeah, of the truth.
Yeah.
And it needs to be out there.
I mean, I'm sure it took you to really dark places because it's a lot of dark energy and details that you're submerged into for all that time of writing it.
I understand how that is.
It absolutely like was swallowing me up.
And I had like...
A spiritual awakening shortly after finishing the book that kind of like took me out of it.
And I did some plant medicine.
I was told you're done looking at the inverted matrix.
You were under assignment.
So yeah, absolutely.
But I do understand the inverted matrix.
And you know, they're suppressing it that it's on the third publisher.
And the only place you can get it is on my website.
So if I can share the website, I'll just say it's Mariam Hineen, M-A-R-Y-A-M.
H-E-N-E-I-N dot com forward slash George Floyd book.
And then you can also get the movie, which is, sorry.
The Real Timeline.
Is edited by Sean Hibbler, who's awesome.
Yes, he is.
We love him on our network.
We have a lot of films produced and edited by Hibbler as well.
Nice.
So guys, check it out.
Her book, her movie, the links have been on our Lower Thurs, the full interview and flashing in the B-roll.
So make sure that you check it out, get her movie, get her book, and see as we approach that five-year anniversary what the real timeline really is.
And again, I don't know anyone who's researched this topic better than you, Miriam.
So thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I think I've become the world's expert.
Yeah, George Floyd, accidentally, inadvertently.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Absolutely.
Thanks for exposing the truth and continue to have that bravery in doing what you do.
So we appreciate you.
All right, guys.
Thanks so much.
Check it out.
It's the links below.
They've been up the whole time.
Make sure you check out the book and the documentary.
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And healthy again, of course.
Making Americans healthy again.
Because I was just sharing with him offline that no matter what question I throw at him or topic, he's just so knowledgeable.
And understands it so well, I would think that he'd been a doctor for, you know, his entire life since he was 20 years old.
But that isn't the case.
He's had a passion career, which we'll talk about in a minute, before this.
So I wanted to, you know, to kind of ask him personally, what was his backstory?
What made him decide to get into this industry and why he's so passionate about it?
So without further ado, our favorite naturopathic doctor, Dr. Mark Sherwood, joining us now.
For a little bit more of a personal Q&A today.
So happy Thursday, Doc.
Happy Thursday.
It's great to be with you.
As always, looking forward to this discussion for sure.
Me too.
All right, so tell us first a little bit, before you became the Hope dealer, tell us what your career was before this.
Just in case we have some new eyeballs and some new audience members.
What were you doing before you were the Hope dealer, the Hope doctor?
Well, I was a police officer.
In a major city, Tulsa, Oklahoma, where I served for 24 years, 10 of which was on the SWAT team.
And so it was a pretty exciting career, but that's what I did before this, believe it or not.
Yeah, and that's, you know, you're helping and contributing to the community in another sort of way, in a different sort of way.
But you're still, it seems like you've always, from the moment you were born, you've had this passion to help and to contribute, to make the country, the society better.
Is that right?
I think so.
You know, I think everybody has kind of their gifts and calling, you know, to benefit mankind.
But there's no question, you know, I do get great reward and great satisfaction from helping somebody else, you know, sometimes achieve something that they don't even believe they can achieve.
And as a police officer, you know, you're always going out there to a call and you've got the worst kind of situations.
Every time.
Nobody calls you just to buy you a cup of coffee.
You're going there and you're dealing with a situation.
You're trying to make things better.
So you're trying to truly help a situation that's very bad get better.
Yeah, absolutely.
So you're helping society in a different kind of way.
A police officer for 24 years, on the SWAT team for 10 years.
Must have been very exciting, very adventurous.
Make the decision, the leap to go into the health field after that.
Was it one decision?
Was it coming over a period of time?
Just tell us a little bit about that decision.
Probably multiple things, sort of.
Collided down the way.
You know, I think when I got on the police department, somebody challenged me to do a bodybuilding competition at the World Police and Fire Olympics, and I'd never done anything like that before.
So I did, and I got fourth.
You know, there you go.
So that kind of started a little process.
Being on the SWAT team, I had to maintain some type of physicality.
I've never seen obese SWAT team members.
No, you can't be.
But all my life, probably, I was kind of an overachiever and I had to really fight.
From behind to even stay up with anybody.
But there were two things that really happened in my life that sort of shifted that.
I think one was very traumatic and one was subtle.
My mom committed suicide in 2002, which was horrible.
It took everything I got at that time to deal with it because I was raising three children.
My father, I was the only child, so I had to decide to own that.
But my mother struggled with prescription medications, you know.
And so that was something I dealt with as a child.
And I saw early on the dysfunction in the situation, the dysfunction in the system.
And she began, her life was a spiraling downhill life as she went pill shopping.
In those days, you could do that.
You could get drugs from this pharmacy, this pharmacy, that pharmacy.
And it was very, very easy to do that.
And she did that.
It took her life away.
And then the second part of that, about the same time, I was transferred to the police academy where I became an instructor in the physical training, hiring backgrounds, Hispanic outreach program.
And then I was challenged with developing a wellness program.
And so I didn't know anything about that.
But there was one key stat that got me.
And it was a stat that was originally delineated back in about...
That was 1960, and the average male police officer serving the community for 20 years died at 66. That was the average.
So I ran some numbers in my area, and I found that it was also 66, 50 years later.
That'll shock you.
Yeah, it blew my mind.
So I thought something's wrong, so I was challenged to do that wellness program.
So that got me kind of started on that pathway.
Right.
Okay, so then what made you, I mean, I can understand why you would do that as a hobby and why you'd say, like, I'm going to, you know, get into my best physical shape ever, but at what point in your journey did you decide, I want to make this my life, I want to make this my whole career, you know, get out of law enforcement and turn this into, you know, turn this passion into my mission, really?
Probably 2007 or 8, I would suppose, Deanna.
At that moment in time, I'd been doing the wellness program for a while, and I'd taken every course I could get.
I realized that I had an ability to obtain knowledge, but also to retain knowledge.
And I started asking for this thing.
It was called wisdom.
Because I really wanted to understand the knowledge and not really misapply or misappropriate what I learned, right?
So I started asking for wisdom and seeking knowledge.
And I never stopped.
You know, it's kind of Forrest Gump, you know, in that movie, you know, Forrest Gump, he kept on running while I kept on studying and never stopped.
But that was the beginning of it.
I probably get into studying.
You know, two or three years, and I thought, you know, wow, it's probably too late to go back to conventional medical school, but I could perhaps become a naturopathic doctor, and so I began to pursue that, and my buddies on the police department thought I was crazy because I was in, you know, 40 years of age doing that, and I just, probably them telling me I couldn't do it spurred me on a little bit more.
Yeah, me too.
Kept on studying and finally transitioned fully out of the police department in late 2012.
I see.
Wow.
Okay.
So about, you know, 15 years at least, you know, fully, fully committed into this mission, this passion that's become your whole career, your whole life.
And your wife, too.
Because you guys are, a lot of people don't realize this or maybe not know this, but you're partners in this mission together.
You're real power partners in this all.
So did you meet your wife along this journey before you fully invested in all of this?
Or was it previous?
Was it along the way?
At what point did you meet your wife?
Well, my wife and I's meeting was amazing.
And I'll say this to you about law enforcement.
You know, what I was doing there was protection and service.
Yes.
And a lot of people don't really think what I'm doing right now is protection and service, but I view it that way, just on a larger scale.
Yeah, me too.
Protect people from themselves and serve the community.
But I was probably in...
Halfway through my schooling, and I was doing a job, you know, that was a transition job between my police department job and fully doing this.
And it was educating doctors on supplementation kind of right up my alley, you know.
My wife was on my call list.
So she had just began the Functional Medical Institute, and I came in and I called on the sales call, right?
And so we hit it off.
And I was very impressed with the person she was.
I didn't know her story at the time, like I do now.
But you know when you meet somebody, Deanna, there are people you meet in life, these benchmark people.
You're like, you know, that's a special human right there.
And that's all it was.
But when I shook her hand to thank her for the meeting...
You know, her maiden name is Neal, N-E-I-L, and she still goes by that.
I said, thank you, Dr. Neal, for your time.
And I couldn't let go of her hand.
It was the most odd, weird thing ever.
And there was a couple people around, and it was awkward as heck.
I didn't know what to do.
That's cool.
Inside of me, I said, man, I got to ask this lady out, you know, shy at the time, you know, and I still kind of am.
Oh, Philly.
Wow, that's really cool.
And I imagine the two of you sharing this mission of helping everybody, helping the world become their healthiest selves, it's probably boosted, almost self-actualized each other's mission.
You're stronger together.
You're making more of an impact together.
And you're kind of like power partners in this world, in this world of health.
Yeah, we push each other.
There's no question.
I mean, our idea of a good vacation is to go to a conference to learn.
Our idea of pillow talk is to talk about genetic snips while we're lying there at night, you know?
I love it.
It's really funny.
I mean, but we have so much in common.
We're so much alike, but so much different in that it's like...
Well, you know, we've talked about this offline.
When you find that person that just kind of is the soulmate and fits you, two are better than one.
You know, with us, our faith drives us.
And I think that's that third glue, that third leg that holds it together, you know.
And so we do.
It pushes us harder.
We learn together.
We study together.
And frankly, with our business model, we have been...
Kind of trailblazers in us for a long, long time.
We've kind of taken functional medicine and conventional medicine, naturopathic thought processes and kind of developed our own.
And it's kind of a style, a vibe these days, kind of a biohacker-ish vibe.
And people really do get better.
I can't really think of anybody over the last 15 years and the 25,000-odd people we deal with.
I can't think of one person That did what we asked them to do and allowed themselves to work with us that didn't get better.
I mean, that's how confident I am that this type of philosophy and this type of care partnership works.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It does work and better than, you know, traditional medicine or medicine that you can go into a typical hospital with.
Now, when you say the term functional medicine, Can you explain that to people?
They're sometimes confused a little bit about that term, functional medicine.
What does that exactly entail?
Well, I can tell you what it was originally intended to do and what it kind of became, and then I'll define the differences.
So conventional medicine is looking at the groups of symptoms in which a patient presents and then determining what medication or treatment might be used to mitigate those symptoms, right?
It's not dealing with the cause.
And then functional medicine is looking at the function of different systems in biology, systems of biology approach.
And so it looks at the different systems that may be dysfunctional and works to restore function so the symptoms go away, therefore the need for medication goes away as well.
And so that is the original intent of functional medicine.
Now that's, in some areas, sadly transitioned to just a bunch of, you know...
Odd, unique tests and a bunch of supplements without talking about the foundation such as nutrition, sleep, stress management, movement.
So we've kind of coined the term functional healing.
And we really believe that's probably true because what is healing to people?
It's being able to do what you want, when you want, be free from the cares of whatever, free from distractions of sickness, disease and things like that, and being able to have a good health span.
Work diligently to restore function in life in all areas.
And when that returns, we're not talking about disease.
We're not talking about symptoms.
We're talking about life.
And I think that's the direction that everybody needs to go.
Absolutely.
And it makes so much sense to me to treat the functions, to treat what's actually underneath and what's causing these ailments and treat and really heal it at its root instead of just, again, putting lipstick on a pig.
Signing them up for this pharmaceutical drug and that pharmaceutical drug and just hooking them up to all these different fake things that's only going to put, you know, it's a band-aid on a broken leg.
It's not treating what's actually causing that.
And if they have certain changes, lifestyle, diet, nutrition, and such, which is what you teach your patients, that's what's going to give them the whole life makeover.
Not only the improvement or the healing of what their ailment is, but...
Well, no question.
And even in my naturopathic studies, you know, we study Chinese medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, you know, Native American medicine.
You know, you're looking at all these things.
And this whole idea of modern medicine, the way we know it, is really the first of its kind.
You know, there's no other country that really did that the way we did that, that, you know, profited.
Patented, you know, things to create a system and, you know, kind of demonizing persons that thought like me, you know.
And so it's not served us well.
And I think stats today, even by our own glorious CDC, which I fondly refer to as the Centers of Disease, out of control.
And, you know, they are not, even their own statistics will prove that what they're doing is not working.
Yeah.
And so, you know, I think that...
Understanding that, you know, these kind of Eastern, Western medicine philosophies, blending them together, and then in our world, wrapping around biblical foundational principles with it, it does work.
Yeah, I love that the biblical foundational principles wrapped up in it as well.
Yeah, because they're going to wrap between there, and my wife and I hold those true.
I mean, we're not the spiritual weirdos out here, you know, that just talk a language that people understand.
I mean, the language that people understand is love.
And that crosses all barriers.
So we're just going to love people and make sure they have what they need to be able to do what they want to do.
Right.
Love and faith.
I'm going to throw a little bit of a curveball at you, but I'm sure you can handle it.
So when a doctor, you know, going to the hospital type of doctor, gives somebody a diagnosis, and it's a very negative diagnosis, like you have cancer and you have eight months to live.
You have this, and these are all the negative symptoms you're going to have with it.
Does that negative diagnosis, when someone just accepts that at face value, does that in and of itself start even a process of confirming that diagnosis and sealing that faith health-wise, if you know what I mean?
Whereas if somebody chooses not to believe that negative diagnosis, And have faith that perhaps God could change this grave cancer diagnosis, or perhaps there's a way I can walk again or something.
That might actually help them, you know, overcome this, whatever it is, this ailment that they have.
Do you know what I mean?
Am I making sense here?
Like the faith versus the accepting faith, face value, the doctor's diagnosis.
Can that even start changing things physically for somebody?
Yes, 100%.
Because when you begin to think fearful thoughts or thoughts of dread or thoughts of impending doom or death, your body's system goes into sort of a mode of freeze, fight, or flight.
And all those threats are out here.
And it does weaken the immune system.
Study after study has confirmed that hope does bring healing.
Full environments, you know, music, lights, sounds, people, happiness, joy, laughter.
That goes a whole lot better than frowns and sorrow and gloom and doom.
And the thing about today's world that I find very concerning about what you just said, even the idea of diagnoses.
What is that?
You know, you think about it, there's two different kind of meanings.
A diagnosis could be looked at.
This is the way I would look at it.
Right now, your body's in this situation.
And right now, this system is not very functional.
And here's what's happening in Lehmann's term.
You're going to go, yep, I got it.
So if this continues down this pathway, it doesn't really result in anything too good.
But let's believe that perhaps there's something we can come up with to work to get it to go the other way.
Right?
And so you don't leave a person with a bomb, but you leave them with a little bit of a soft nudge that we've got something going on, as opposed to the way you described it.
And I think there's our world today, and this is a passion that we have, when people come and go see a doctor, the whole conversation is, "What's wrong with me?" And think about that.
You know, if my wife and I were sitting around one day and we just decided arbitrarily, let's spend Tuesdays.
No, let's do Thursdays because we're doing Deanna's today.
Let's do Thursdays.
Let's spend Thursdays for like two hours talking about and discovering what's wrong with each other.
You know, that's not going to go over well because if you look hard enough, you're going to find something.
And so what I'm getting at is perhaps.
Our mindset is in the wrong way.
Perhaps our system is set up where we're looking for things wrong instead of acknowledging things right.
And to that end, when someone comes and sees us, this is where we differ significantly.
I realize that as we age, things don't heal the way they used to and damage processes build up.
I get that.
But I don't let people focus always on what's wrong.
I'll ask them what's right.
What's going on in your life?
Tell me about your family.
Tell me about your kids.
Tell me about your grandkids.
Tell me about your job, your dog, your cat, your fish, your pet snake.
I don't care, you know.
But we wrap that thing up that might not be working well with what is working well.
And so you really can see how that is a different approach.
And it does provide a different result as compared and contrast to what you laid out there.
Amazing.
That's what I love about you and your coaching and your business model and just who you are as a person and your wife.
You're very faith-based.
You're very positive.
You believe that pretty much everything could be healed if given the right remedy.
And most of the time, these doctors these days just don't give people the right remedy.
They don't give them any hope.
They don't give them any faith.
It's just all negative.
Yeah, and I've got to tell you, they're not trained in it either.
Yeah.
We need to understand that the conventional system provides no training in what I just talked about.
That's not a slam.
That's a reality.
And so I think we need to get, America needs to wake up and realize that that's not where you go for healing.
That's where you go for trauma care.
And you go other places for healing, like places that kind of think like my wife and I. Yeah, absolutely.
Well, thank you, Dr. Sherwood.
It's been really great sharing a little bit more of your story and hearing some things I didn't know about you myself.
I appreciate it.
And this won't be the last conversation about this, of course.
There's a lot more to your story, a lot more of your life and journey.
But we appreciate getting to know you on more of a personal level.
You're welcome.
I enjoyed that.
That was great.
Yeah, thank you.
Dr. Sherwood, you can always find him at...
Sherwood.tv or Sherwood.tv slash shots.
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This is just somebody that I personally love working with on a human level.
We resonate really well together.
And I only support and promote people on my show that I really actually have that connection with.
And I know to be a genuine.
A genuine person.
They have genuinely incredible products that really, really work and that really change people's lives.
So again, Dr. Sherwood, we really appreciate you.
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