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May 20, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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Former Trump HHS Covid Advisor Calls Out RFK, Trump’s “Sham” new HHS Team

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	Even though he was in the White House when COVID-19 was unleashed on humanity, and even though he was the commander-in-chief overseeing everything Operation Warp Speed, even though he's the godfather of the vaccine, even though he gave birth to the disastrous genocidal clot-shot weapon of biological warfare known as the safe and effective COVID-19 jab during Donald Trump's 2024 presidential campaign,
	even though all of that is true, Somehow still, he picked up the mantle of making America healthy again.
	Even though Trump has never apologized, never so much as admitted that he was even just a little bit wrong when it comes to pumping COVID-19 jabs into the arms of millions of Americans, he has somehow convinced his supporters that he was going to turn a new leaf.
	He joined forces with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	People started talking about how this time Trump is based.
	He knows a lot now.
	This time, things are going to be different.
	Trump knows the score, they said.
	He's going to come riding back into the White House, charging back into Pennsylvania Avenue and lead a medical revolution with his trusty new sidekick, RFK Jr., riding shotgun.
	Well, guess what?
	Surprise, surprise, it hasn't exactly turned out that way.
	RFK was indeed installed as HHS had.
	But not to do anything on our behalf.
	No.
	Instead, he's advocating on behalf of the very same people, the very same drug pushers that control this country's health policies, no matter who's supposedly in charge over at the White House.
	He's already started endorsing demonstrably deadly injections for kids like the MMR vaccine and all of these vaccine producer investigations and shutdowns that we were supposed to see, we were hearing so much about in the run-up to Trump's inauguration.
	None of that has come to fruition, which, by the way, is exactly what I warned you all would happen.
	We heard so much about how RFK Jr. was a health crusader.
	He was going to be given free reign to rid America of all of its poison, but all he's really done so far is facilitate the poisoning of Americans.
	Just like with the mass deportations that aren't happening, people who voted for Trump were sold a pipe dream.
	They were sold a false narrative.
	Nobody's serious about making America healthy again.
	It was just a campaign slogan and nothing more.
	Like, make America great again.
	Which nobody seems too interested in doing anymore either.
	Instead of bringing in people who will work in the interests of Americans, Trump is bringing in people who are working in the interests of big pharma and the donor class.
	And Israel, of course.
	The interests of profits.
	The misery and sickness of the American people.
	These people got richer than ever before during the COVID scandemic.
	And now they're coming back for more.
	They're coming back for another payday.
	And to continue their biomedical takeover of humanity.
	And it seems that nobody's really all that interested in combating them.
	At least not in the Trump administration.
	But it doesn't have to be that way.
	Because, you know, doctors, medical experts who actually care about the health of the American people, They're now asking Trump to put them back to work inside the system where they can affect change.
	So far, it's just a waiting game for our next guest, which is Dr. Paul Elias Alexander.
	Dr. Alexander is a good friend of mine through this program.
	He's an epidemiologist.
	He was a senior advisor to COVID pandemic policy for President Trump at HHS.
	As well as a former COVID pandemic evidence synthesis advisor to the Pan American Health Organization.
	He knows his stuff.
	And he saw the scandemic play out firsthand, from behind the scenes, on the inside.
	And he says that, among other things, it was used to derail an era of unprecedented American prosperity, to wrangle control of the White House away from President Trump.
	He's written a book on the topic called Presidential Takedown, How Anthony Fauci, the CDC, NIH, and the WHO conspired to overthrow President Trump.
	And he's currently under consideration now, again, for another position over at HHS.
	It would be great if we could get somebody like that on the inside.
	If he's not going to allow himself to be silenced.
	And he joins us now.
	Dr. Alexander, thank you so much for coming back.
	We always appreciate having you.
	Thank you very much, Stu.
	And it's such an honor and a privilege to be on your show again.
	I always admired you and your combativeness and your smarts.
	And a beautiful studio now.
	And maybe we can sit down there together in time.
	Good open.
	And I think there's nothing that I can say differently to what you just said, short of the fact that...
	Look, on the table, let me be blunt.
	I do support President Trump still today.
	I'm very disappointed in the choices that has been made in terms of...
	Well, on several factors, but in terms of HHS, CDC, NIH, FDA, etc.
	And what you said is so true.
	A lot of the things that we were told before the elections, you see, the problem is people like you and me and other people who've been the vanguards and fighting with the public and the public, Yeah, our audience basically became...
	Pseudo-doctors during the COVID pandemic, what with us talking to every foremost leading expert in every realm of health.
	And all of them said the same thing.
	We tried to warn these people, Paul, for the longest time.
	We were out there first.
	We were begging people.
	We were screaming at people.
	We tried every approach that we possibly could as well as very knowledgeable, full of wisdom and expertise, the top leading experts in every aspect of the medical industry and pharmaceutical industry, from researchers to microscopists, experts like yourself.
	I mean, we tried.
	We did everything that we could.
	And it's like we are left on an island.
	And what I mean is that we supported Trump.
	We didn't hammer Trump, as I think we should have, in holding him accountable.
	Because in some manner, I made the argument that Trump was greatly misled.
	Now, I could say today that he must have known and come to know.
	The tragedy of the mRNA shots, the lockdowns, etc.
	So he can't say he does not know.
	And to continue supporting them as successful is wrong, because that's not true.
	So in one sense, I support him.
	In another sense, I'm dismayed.
	I'm dismayed by the cadre of people around him now.
	And the fact that it's almost as though we were used, you and me and others like us, To get him back over the top.
	And now that they're back there, we are left on this island as though we are the wacko people.
	And that we were the wrong ones.
	And the way they're doing it, Stu, is this.
	No one is talking about it.
	They're doing it by silence.
	And it's not even silencing you or me now.
	They're silencing themselves.
	Let me tell you something so your viewers can understand.
	Two important points.
	We could talk on many shows to come on any topic.
	One, I am under consideration as a senior advisor back there with the HHS in support of Kennedy or wherever.
	I am told that the development process is finishing and it's a matter of time.
	We are being blocked by the deep state and Democrats.
	Persons like myself.
	So there's nothing I can do about it.
	But for you to understand how serious this lockdown of the truth was, is this.
	When the Republicans had the RNC in Milwaukee, people in the RNC reached out to me by email, by phone.
	And I went to Milwaukee.
	They said, you have to come because we're going to get you on stage for a few minutes.
	We're going to figure out who you could introduce, but you're going to come out on stage.
	And you're going to talk the truth about President Trump, which from my perspective was only going to be good.
	And you could introduce yourself, a little bit to your background, your expertise, talk about the coming administration, and introduce somebody, and that's it.
	I said, great, no problem.
	I'd love that.
	I went to Milwaukee.
	When I got there, they said, well, we have about three and a half, four minutes for you.
	Then people came to me and said, Paul, We could only give you two minutes.
	So I said, but why?
	Well, you know, you are the face of the anti-COVID.
	You are the face against the lockdowns and the vaccines.
	You and some others.
	So the word is, the campaign management says they don't want you on that stage, but they will only give you two minutes.
	You cannot mention COVID.
	You cannot mention that word or mRNA vaccines.
	So I agreed.
	I said, okay.
	Then...
	This is about Tuesday now of that week.
	I am there.
	I'm in the convention center.
	They said, they've cut your time down to one minute.
	I said, well, what the hell can I do in one minute?
	They said, well, you come on stage, pray for us, introduce yourself, your background in medicine, evidence-based medicine, researcher, and get off the stage.
	They don't want you.
	In fact, they prefer you stay in the delegates with the delegates on the main floor.
	I said, well, I can't do anything in one minute.
	They said, well, it's just one minute.
	And Stu, The day that I was supposed to go on that stage at night, somebody came up to me and said, they're looking at cutting your time to 30 seconds.
	I told them, F off.
	I swear to God.
	I said, F off.
	Don't come back and talk to me again.
	I spent the rest of time in the convention and I left.
	I told them, F off.
	I use those words.
	Okay, so now you're trying...
	Okay.
	And now they're telling you that the deep state is preventing you from...
	Being appointed inside of Trump's HHS.
	This kind of speaks to my point, though, Dr. Alexander, because what I'm saying is that nothing has changed.
	So when you're like, look, I disagree with Trump on a lot of things, but it's about the cadre of people around him.
	But that's exactly what we went through.
	Five years ago, six years ago, this is what we went through in Trump 45, is that we were told, well, it's not Trump.
	It was the people around him.
	It was Jared Kushner.
	It was, you know, on foreign policy.
	Or it was Deborah Birx and Tony Fauci.
	It was...
	You know, Rochelle Walensky.
	It was Albert Bourla.
	It was these people, Bill Gates, that, you know, were around him and that were, you know, lying to him.
	And he wrote a book about this whole thing, but we're right back in the same position.
	It's worse this time.
	I mean, he's got Larry Ellison coming in, talking about AI, custom vaccines for people, you know, mRNA platform vaccines.
	You've got RFK, who was positioned as this...
	You know, disinformation, extremely censored, targeted, anti-vaccine, COVID champion, hero, you know, guy who's now telling kids to go get their MMR shots, which are directly correlated to the spike in autism because of a measles outbreak that is essentially nonexistent.
	So the things that you're speaking to are becoming redundant and repetitive.
	So at what point?
	At what point do people stop holding on to, like, hope and, you know, the idea of trusting the plan and look more at the reality of what's happening?
	And then you saw it firsthand by just basically being told, yeah, you're not going to be allowed to say anything on this stage about COVID, and then basically just shoot off of the stage.
	But to maintain your own integrity, you just told them to F off.
	Well, let's do think about it.
	I'm going to ask your audience one question.
	Can anybody come up with one word?
	Just a word.
	COVID, mRNA vaccine in the whole RNC convention or DNC.
	They told me, they said, Paul, look around you in this entire convention hall.
	Do you see the word COVID?
	Has anybody mentioned COVID or the vaccine?
	I said, well, no.
	They said, well, that's it.
	You got your answer.
	So if you cannot go on that stage and not mention COVID or the vaccines, you cannot go on the stage.
	And I'm saying it to you this way.
	Take, for instance, RFK.
	RFK is somebody that I did work with, and I'm not disparaging him here in this conversation.
	I'm saying it this way.
	It is clear that when RFK pivoted towards Trump, he went silent, complete.
	Robert Kennedy Jr. has not mentioned the vaccine or the word COVID since he endorsed Trump, and he ran on that for five years prior.
	His entire campaign was against the lockdowns.
	And the mRNA.
	So they silenced him.
	If I took the position at the HHS, so I'm waiting to see if the White House liaison, these people get to me and say, okay, Paul, your start date is here, appear in Washington, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, this is your job.
	I'm waiting to see if it comes with, but you cannot mention, you cannot work in the area of court because then I will know I am getting a position to silence me.
	And this is my problem, Stu.
	I have been hurt financially.
	I still am.
	This is the thing.
	We were left on a...
	I'm so happy that you have created this platform.
	And I've tried with, like, Substack and stuff.
	But we have been hurt because we've been fighting, yet ostracized.
	I might have to decline the position because if it means silence for me, I can't be silent.
	I cannot be, because then after four years with Trump, my credibility will be crap.
	It will be done for me.
	And I have time ahead of me still.
	I am in this battle to save lives, to help Americans.
	I am in this battle for the truth.
	You are in this battle for the truth.
	However we get there, I am not going to be silenced.
	And I think this is the issue.
	We have a lot of doctors and scientists in the freedom movement who've gone silent.
	And they're coddling for jobs.
	Well, you've been there before, and you know how all of this works.
	So maybe you would be the best to tell me and to tell our audience, who would it have been that cognitively made that decision for RFK that he was going to be...
	I mean, basically what this is is obviously just another level of control and compromise and blackmail, and it's internal likely now.
	We know about the external and foreign control over RFK Jr., but what you're suggesting here is that somebody in the presidential administration said, yeah, you have a job, a guaranteed job.
	You can work right alongside President Trump.
	You can head up HHS if you want to.
	All you need to do is just shut up.
	And he made the decision to do that.
	But who would have come to him with that?
	And for what?
	Is it because these criminals are scared?
	Is it because they see that in a room full of people, if you start talking about COVID or if you see banners about COVID-19, whether it's at the RNC or the DNC or whatever fake convention is being held, is it because they're worried that the American public is still looking for extreme accountability for the mass murder, genocide, ethnic cleansing, bio-warfare attack that was perpetuated against them by their own fake, illegitimate, pedophilic and controlled government?
	All those adjectives, because I use them in my sub-site too.
	Look, the thing about it is, let me ask a question.
	Robert Kennedy, and I'm not getting into his personal life or nothing.
	I'm not discounting the guy or anything.
	I'm just talking here.
	I'm asking questions.
	This guy ran his career and came to prominence in COVID, CHD and all that stuff, against these vaccines.
	He raised questions against vaccines in total.
	And the COVID vaccines.
	But now we have a picture emerging where these people are trying to argue with us.
	That autism is not linked to the vaccines.
	It's not linked to MMR or the DPT vaccine.
	That is some kind of environmental factor.
	In other words, they're like twisting themselves into pretzels to undo the historical past, which is so nonsensical and so wrong.
	Because all the American people want is the goddamn honest truth.
	And when they tell us, well, we're going to run some studies and we're going to get to the bottom of it, that is a bunch of bogus BS.
	I am one of the globe's evidence-based medicine specialists.
	I am the one with my people at McMaster, Dr. Gordon Geyer, who invented evidence-based medicine.
	We devised the methods to run randomized controlled trials, observation studies.
	There is no way, no one at HHS, no one at CDC or NIH could run a study now.
	To detect anything to do with COVID or to tell us if the vaccine works or even doesn't work.
	And they know it.
	They will be lying to the public.
	They can't do nothing.
	You know why?
	Because you need that substance to be in the environment for you to run a study to detect it.
	The baseline risk of whatever that was is zero.
	You cannot run a study if the baseline population level prevalence is zero.
	I'm telling you basic evidence-based medicine here.
	And they know it.
	So they know they're in the public still.
	We're going to get nothing of credibility in the future.
	This has been an effort to shut down any of us on COVID moving forward.
	We're going to get nothing.
	And the silence tells you.
	So the question is, do you still continue?
	Do I continue?
	Do some of the health advocates out there, the COVID freedom fighters, the contrarians, continue the fight?
	I say yes.
	And I say the fight rests in the PREP Act.
	You see that PREP Act that Azar invoked in March of 2020, that under Bush, I think it came into being in 2005.
	The PREP Act is a liability shield.
	If we can go to Congress, Stu, for this coming midterms in 2026.
	And force those congressional members and senators to vote it down.
	They voted for the PrEP Act under Bush.
	We need to repeal it.
	Once we repeal that, every American could take every vaccine maker, could take every Bula, Bansel, Pfizer, everyone into court, and take their money.
	It's the prep act that keeps them in business.
	It's the prep act, Stu.
	Maybe we have to have a conversation offline.
	That is where I think the fight is.
	Yeah, I'm more than happy to learn, you know, I mean, in great detail, all of the different levels of bureaucracy that go into these acts and, you know, into this legislation and into these resolutions.
	But from a more simplistic point of view, the way the American people are looking at it, you said, and I'll quote, I don't know how true that really is.
	To be honest with you, I don't really think that's true at all.
	I think the American people don't want to know the truth.
	I think the American people want to remain willfully ignorant.
	They don't want to know that they're under attack by their own government.
	They don't want to know that Donald Trump is failing to complete.
	Any one of or fulfill any one of the promises that he's made over the last 10 years.
	They don't want to know that he ran on mass deportations, then canceled the deportation flights.
	They don't want to know that he's assisting Benjamin Netanyahu and leveling an entire area full of children and displacing the rest of them throughout the West.
	So they come into our countries hating us and they come into our countries as walking bioweapons as 15,000 of them a day were coming across during Biden.
	And Trump is bragging about deporting 500 of them in a week.
	I mean, I don't see that the American people want to know that they've injected into themselves something that quite possibly can't ever go away.
	And something that quite possibly can interact with 5G technology.
	I don't think people want to understand or really hear the truth of the fact that Elon Musk wants to put chips in their brain to control their thoughts and their memories.
	And that he is creating AI, which he actually stood in front of the world and said he believes will kill all of humanity, inevitably.
	And he's still over there building it.
	So for me, it's like, I don't know that the American people really want the damn truth.
	I don't think that they do at all.
	And I think that until we get to a point where the American people are ready for the truth and then ready to search remedy and solutions and accountability.
	And, you know, I think that the most powerful thing that somebody, and I'm not giving you advice.
	I'm just saying that if I had access to the president, I would absolutely not be able to lay my head down at night and sleep or live with myself if I didn't tell the president.
	I know that you know a lot of things that you're refusing to sit behind the desk in the Oval Office on primetime national television and say.
	To a certain extent, I understand national security.
	But to the other extent, the American people know that you're lying.
	And it's making you look really badly.
	And this shot has to go.
	And the people that are responsible for forcing you to deploy it, if that's what it was done at the end of a gun barrel.
	You're the President of the United States.
	The buck stops with you.
	This was a DOD operation, and it was an act of warfare.
	And I think the people really need to demand that kind of accountability for that.
	I mean, these people are mass murderers, Paul.
	Yeah, again, I agree with every word you just said up to the last second, and I'll say it this way.
	When RFK became the Secretary of Health and Human Services, when Macari was appointed as FDA Commissioner, when Bhattacharya was the NIH Director, etc., they have every single piece of information that they needed to stop the mRNA shots that second.
	They have not.
	So they are lying to the people saying, but we need to look at the data.
	That's bullshit.
	That's a lie, Stu.
	It's just as much bullshit as it's bullshit that they're telling you that the deep state or the Democrats are preventing you from working there.
	It's the same guy, you know, in a different uniform that told you that your time slot went from 15 minutes to 10 to 2 minutes to 1 minute to 30 seconds.
	It's the same choke out, block out, blockade, limited hangout.
	I mean, if the American people should just go back to the RNC, just because I've raised it, ask yourself, how could President Trump, where the signature event of his first presidency that toppled him was COVID and the response that was devastating, it was a vaccine that killed so many people, how could you run your re-election and not one person out of 100 people went on that stage?
	Not one person mentioned COVID.
	Not you, President Trump, mentioned that you're going to fix and make Americans whole again.
	Fix them.
	Fix what happened.
	Nobody tells you that there was a deliberate effort to whitewash the past.
	There was.
	It happened in front of our eyes.
	And you see, when people talk about...
	I have written, and I took a flat for it, and many people defended me.
	I said, listen, on the right also, on the MAGA, there's Trump derangement syndrome, even worse, because they're not questioning anything.
	They're like bobbleheads.
	I watched Trump's cabinet, and I'm so shocked.
	They sit down there and nobody says anything about anything.
	You can't run a government like that.
	Trump...
	I have a lot of faith in him, but you can't let somebody who is ruling or leading be unanswerable to you.
	People can argue about Trump and they can say that he was left everything and they can say that he's a horrible business person and all of this other nonsense, bankruptcies and whatever.
	Look, I don't agree with that.
	I think that Trump is probably one of the most successful businessmen, obviously.
	You know, in the history of the world, really.
	I mean, one of the most iconic guys ever.
	I agree.
	And when you talk about having meetings like that, you know, and I've seen these propaganda videos and these Fox News clips of these big, you know, super long table and all the top advisors and everybody.
	I mean, these photographs, they're nothing more than photo ops for the WWE.
	But...
	I've seen these things, and I often wonder to myself, like, I saw Trump on The Apprentice.
	I saw him looking for solutions and asking people for their advice and asking people what their ideas are and asking people how they would run this aspect of a company.
	And I saw him tell people that they were fired for being retards and imbeciles and idiots.
	And now that Trump is gone.
	So which one was an act?
	I mean, Stu, we're stunned.
	We have people like Bongino and Patel are not changing the direction of the discussion.
	Who are people who, before Trump came into power, railed against the curious death of Epstein and all this Epstein Island and the pedophilia and stuff.
	Yeah, and they're now confirming that he committed suicide.
	It's just a big joke.
	It's a big joke.
	It's like, you see, the thing is, they take the American people for fools and we are not.
	We're not.
	And that's the challenge here.
	I don't know if it's that they take them for fools or if they just think the hubris is just so out of control because they know that there's never going to be any accountability.
	We've got to talk more with Dr. Paul Alexander.
	I've got to get to this break real quick.
	We're going to have him back.
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	People are jumping off their couches to take their kids to go get the MMR shots because RFK Jr. told them that there's a reason to be concerned about the measles outbreaks.
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	So, Dr. Alexander was talking about the prospects that he would just go back in to HHS, that he would go back in and try to get the ear of President Trump or get the ear of RFK.
	Somebody like us inside, somebody like us, a truth teller in that sense, inside saying these things so that he could say very publicly, whether it be on Substack or coming back to a program like this one, I went and I told Donald Trump X, Y, and Z. I went and I told Robert F. Kennedy Jr., X, Y, and Z. I told them these things and they turned me away.
	Some people would say that's dancing with the devil.
	Paul, what say you?
	You know, they have that saying you have to sleep with the devil sometimes, etc., etc.
	In this case, it might be that I have to be in a situation.
	But fighting from day one, as I fought in term one, they're going to know from the first second that I'm not the rest of the people in those health agencies.
	And they might, after one week, say, you ought to get the hell out of here.
	I will wear that as a badge.
	But I am going to try and get President Trump to stand up and take ownership for what happened in COVID, for what happened with the lockdowns, because these lockdowns were never successful, as he said.
	They killed people.
	And I will stand with him to help get the accountability.
	I don't blame President Trump, you know.
	And I don't even blame him today.
	I'm just very disappointed because he's not a fool, as you just said.
	Listen, I went...
	To Florida, about three months before the election.
	And people who were involved in his campaign were in that luncheon.
	They invited me to come.
	I went to my family.
	So I'm sitting down there and we are talking about this, talking about that.
	And one of them put his hands on my leg and he looked at me in my face square.
	This person speaks to Trump directly.
	He said, Paul, President Trump knows that the vaccine harmed, you know.
	He knows you need to...
	To sit there and feel that you're trying to make an excuse for him.
	He knows the vaccine harm people.
	The problem is, how do you get him?
	Our problem, your problem is, how do we get him to say it without being accountable?
	And that's the key.
	President Trump will never admit that he made a mistake.
	So the question is, how do we get President Trump to say what he knows is the truth?
	And I'm not blaming him, because he was really ruled by a lot of those frauds in his administration, like the Azars and the Huns and the Bulas and the Bantles and all of these people.
	They lied to him.
	And he did believe.
	Trump believed that we had a serious COVID pandemic.
	And we did not.
	But he believed it.
	Trump believed that this vaccine...
	We'll cure everybody and fix them.
	Because he didn't want Americans to die.
	And I appreciated that about him.
	But he didn't understand that they screwed him upside down.
	Because Americans weren't going to die.
	Americans did die from his pandemic response.
	The response that they've made him put his name on is what killed Americans.
	It was the sedation, the isolation, the midazolam, the remdesivir, the ventilator, the dehydration, the denial of antibiotics.
	That is what killed Americans.
	Not no virus.
	Yeah, well, I don't know.
	You just basically perfectly highlighted how corrupt the bureaucracy is.
	You know, when somebody says we've got to get him to say it, he knows, and then he's not saying it.
	But here's the thing, though, is I feel like even if he didn't ever want to admit that he was wrong, which I agree with that, I don't think that the guy will ever admit that he was wrong.
	Okay, so I think that's a character flaw, but that's a whole other discussion.
	Even if he doesn't want to ever admit that he was wrong, after four years of Biden...
	Trump had the perfect opportunity to come back as a campaigning president and say, I've had the last four years and I've looked into this and I now know about this and you have continued to perpetuate this murder of Americans because you knew about it too because I know about the materials that you have reviewed.
	For the entire time that you've been in office, and you have, with a forethought, carried out this intentional mass murder, this homicide, this ethnic cleansing, this genocide, this holocaust against your own people, and that's why I'm running for president.
	And when I get back into that office, I'm going to hold every single one of you war criminals accountable, and you will swing from a length of rope until dead when you're found guilty of the crimes against humanity that you have committed.
	And do you know...
	Do you know the rally that would have been behind President Trump had he done that?
	He had the perfect opportunity.
	And that is our problem.
	We can't understand unless you're willing to let your mind go one step further and say, well, if he didn't do what Stu just said, is President Trump culpable?
	And I can't...
	You see, I'm afraid.
	And I don't believe that.
	I do not believe President Trump is malevolent.
	Many people who are senior people in American government, they come and whisper to me, Paul, we think Trump was in on this in the beginning.
	We think Trump brought this to...
	I say, are you people crazy?
	Not from what I know and what I saw.
	We could question his response to it and his failure to deal with it.
	Trump is not a bad man.
	Trump loves America.
	Like how you love America, everybody in their own twisted way, in their own strange ways.
	But still, you have hit the nail on the head.
	How could President Trump, on the backs of the crap that Biden and they did, rolling out the vaccine, mandating it, continuing expanding the lockdowns?
	So many children committed suicide in the lockdowns.
	Many things have been written about that.
	Why has he not stood up and said, you know what, that's it.
	I'm not going to get accountability and I'm going to right the wrongs.
	But it's as though you mentioned Ellison Altman, this Chinaman guy from SoftBank who he brought on stage to talk about Stargate.
	A bunch of bogus madness.
	Why would President Trump take the population there?
	So it begs the question, are there really forces?
	So much bigger than him.
	In other words, is the swamp draining President Trump again?
	That's the point.
	Because on this issue, we've gone backwards.
	We've not even gone forwards.
	Because what he's done is he's placed people to head these agencies who are not moving anything forward.
	In fact, they're moving things backwards.
	In other words, look at that Surgeon General nominee that he had, Nejuak.
	I mean, thank God he pulled it.
	If that lady would have become the Surgeon General, that would have made America a laughingstock of the world because that lady advocated for masking little kids, vaccines through your eyeballs, lockdowns forever.
	It's only in the end when she realized that people like myself and you, etc., and all of us out there knew the science.
	She started to talk about, well, we should look at it.
	I didn't really know the science.
	I just listened to experts tell me about the science.
	What I knew was that it was all bullshit.
	That's what I knew.
	I don't think that I was alone.
	I don't know if there's a bunch of fluoride poisoning going on that has people just dumbed down to retard levels IQ.
	I mean, I don't know.
	But I know that I wasn't alone.
	And I know that a lot of people were talking about it, but there was a concerted effort by people around Donald Trump to shut me up, including to the extent of taking me off of platforms and defunding my network to try to get me, to choke me out, to prevent me from even having the ability to speak to the masses.
	And I just kept telling the truth.
	So I didn't need to know the science.
	And I don't think that President Trump really needed to know the science either.
	If there would have been good qualified people around him that were telling him that this was harmful, then I believe that he had the opportunity to stop it.
	But let's just say that that's not true.
	Let's just say that even though the buck stops with him and he's the president and he could have pulled the plug on this whole thing, he didn't because he didn't have one person around him telling him that this thing was bad?
	Okay, fine.
	Sure.
	Let's just say that the odds of 6 million to 1 that that actually occurred actually happened.
	Since then, He's had a lot of time.
	And admittedly, by person, somebody close to the situation apparently, according to you, said he knows.
	So every day that passes that he knows and he doesn't stop it, it's just putting the stamp of approval on everything that I say from behind this desk every day.
	It's just not honest.
	It's just dishonest people playing their role.
	It's part of a movie, and at the end of the day, the people that are pulling the puppet strings and the people that are writing the script, at the end of their film, we're all dead.
	And they love that.
	At the end of the film, they have unfettered legal access sexually to our children, and they love that.
	In the end, we're all drones, mindless drones, just being obedient, and we're all enslaved, and we're all controlled.
	We're all owned.
	And that's at the end of their book.
	And I just see President Trump right now as being an actor in one of the roles in that book.
	And when I look around, I just see him not only fighting back, not fighting back against all of this, but I actually see him speeding it all up.
	The guy that was going to usher in medical freedom, hold these people accountable, is now the guy that's bringing Bill Gates.
	You know, over for dinner and meeting with Larry Ellison about mRNA technology and his HHS guy is telling everybody to go get MMR shots.
	I don't need to know the science to know the bullshit.
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	Well, Stu, I personally, I hope the best is yet to come from Trump.
	I really did think in January.
	I mean, the things that we were seeing happening in the economy, 3.3% unemployment, all of the groups, everybody had a job, labor participation rate was at the highest, etc., etc.
	I could list them out like a litany.
	The problem, though, is what Trump knows today and what happened because of the lockdowns and the vaccines that came under him.
	I am not.
	Here's the key.
	I have given, people like me and you have given Trump the off-ramp many, many times.
	I am sitting here still not blaming him.
	I'm not, and he's not a malevolent man.
	But I do now say that a lot of culpability and accountability is in his laps because he knows it.
	And the first moment that he was sworn in, after one minute on January 20th, President Trump knew and had enough that he could have said from this moment on, all of the mRNA products must be pulled from the American soil.
	Complete end of story.
	We're going to change the childhood vaccine schedule to remove any of these things from children.
	We're going to do this, we're going to do that.
	But he did nothing.
	And he appointed people.
	Who played and dabbled on the fence.
	We're never proper contrarians.
	And they are working now to shut us all down.
	Because they are not advancing the discussion.
	So they are silent.
	So it's left up to us.
	And the question is, should we just say, you know what?
	You, Stu, you survived.
	Your family survived.
	My family survived.
	Should we just say, you know what?
	The Americans who fell fit and got harmed and many died.
	We lost many.
	They were too stupid.
	We did enough.
	Darwinism.
	Do we just stop?
	Natural selection.
	Survival of the first.
	If you're dumb enough to stand on the railroad tracks, you probably deserved to get hit by the train.
	Nobody should look out for you.
	I mean, I don't disagree with a lot of that, to be honest with you.
	What's that?
	But you have not stopped.
	No, and I won't.
	You are still on the front line.
	And that's the same problem that I have on some people like me.
	We have lost a lot of people, though, Stu, you have to admit.
	The contrarian dissident force was a lot larger.
	Well, they're all co-opted now.
	Yeah, I mean, they're all just bought and paid for.
	They're promised jobs.
	They're promised jobs at HHS.
	And then they're just silenced and they're blackmailed.
	You know, they're probably on tape doing unthinkable acts with kids.
	I mean, who knows?
	It's a big club and you ain't in it.
	Carlin was right about all of that.
	And it just continues.
	It continues and it continues.
	I want to know what you're going to do, though.
	I mean, if these people offer you the job, are you going to go in there and be the human hand grenade that blows the lid off of this whole thing and make sure?
	I mean, because if you do it very publicly, you know, the only thing left is...
	Solutions and remedy, moving forward, accountability.
	Yeah.
	That's the thing, you know, even talking to you helped me even decide again a little more, I took a little more inch forward, that if, and it will, because full disclosure, you know, they would say you can't name names or anything, but the call I had on Friday, they said, Paul, we want you in here.
	You've been highly referenced to be here as a senior advisor.
	We've put it down that you're going to be a rule.
	However, we have to wait on this process to play out.
	So I said, okay, I'll wait.
	Stu, if it happens, I go in there like Rambo.
	And I'm going to blow the s*** up.
	And if they tell me after two weeks, get the hell out of here, I'm out of there.
	But I will be stronger if I did it down.
	All right, well, I'm going to apply for my HHS meeting press credentials.
	And so that so that I'm allowed to so I can ramble some.
	Two.
	I don't think we're getting any press credentials at the White House anytime soon.
	But I tell you what, the American people, the ones that actually get it, they appreciate you and they appreciate platforms like this one, holding our elected officials accountable and holding their feet to the fire because they are servants of the public and that's exactly what we're supposed to do.
	Final words.
	I got a minute left.
	Go ahead.
	People like me love people like you because you're standing up.
	You are like a Praetorian god.
	You're holding the front line on the wall for us.
	And I want to end so people don't get me wrong.
	I supported Trump.
	That's why I worked for him.
	I still support him.
	I'm very disappointed with a lot of issues.
	Definitely over the handling of this COVID.
	And I'm not going to give up.
	I'm not going to give up.
	The question is how are we going to marshal the resources going forward?
	One area of focus is the PREP Act.
	I want to talk to Stu about this offline because we need to head to Congress.
	We need to affect the midterms coming up because if Congress people know...
	That the vote could turn, and if we properly educate the people, that the PrEP Act have us in this position.
	Because that is the act that gives the HHS Secretary and President the power to declare a public health emergency, to suspend everything, and to do every single thing that was done in COVID.
	Trump and Biden.
	We need to take that power out of their hands and get the PrEP Act reversed.
	Yeah, we did talk a lot about that.
	We've talked a lot about the PREP Act.
	It's demonstrable.
	I mean, it's just absolutely horrible.
	Akin to the Patriot Act, you know, after the 9-11 attacks, it's just kind of the same thing.
	It's presented as, we will have the opportunity now, once you give us permission to govern over you in these ways that are extraordinary and unprecedented, once we have your permission to do that, you know, then, you know, we'll just use it.
	Obviously, to your benefit and, you know, for the sake of national security and what have you, for the health of your family and your children.
	And then, in fact, they just weaponize it against you and they come for you.
	Dr. Alexander, we will have that talk very soon.
	Thank you so much for coming.
	We appreciate it.
	God bless you.
	All right.
	So, Dr. Paul Elias Alexander, I hope he does.
	I hope he goes in there and I hope...
	Man.
	What we need is more of us on the inside.
	And by more of us, I don't necessarily mean that Dr. Alexander is a lot like Stu Peters.
	He's not.
	And a lot of people aren't, which is why a lot of times people find this show unpalatable.
	I cannot believe that he just said that.
	Well, I did.
	And you know what?
	You have the right to turn the channel, to listen to a different podcast, to turn it off and go download YouTube if you like what they're saying there.
	You know, you can go listen to Cernovich and you can go listen to Jack Posobiec and all of these other people.
	Go listen to that.
	That's fine if it's not palatable.
	But guess what?
	It's truthful.
	It might not be polished, but it's truthful.
	And that's what we need more of in our government.
	That's the exact representation that we need, that we have been kept away from with fake and sham and rigged elections and installations and the occupation that we have allowed to take place in our country.
	But for some semblance of victory, we have to know that there are some of us in the inside.
	We have to know that there, and by some of us I mean truth tellers, by some of us I mean people who love humanity and want to see people prosper in their own country, especially in the United States of America.
	People that don't put up with the, that won't go along with the lie, that operate above board, that have morals, that have integrity.
	And as far as I can tell, Dr. Paul Elias Alexander has all of that.
	I consider him to be a friend.
	And he might not agree with everything that I say.
	He might tell you, well, he's too hard on Trump.
	Okay.
	I'm okay hearing that.
	And then I'm okay stepping back and taking a look at it.
	Show me what you got.
	To this day, This is what I've seen.
	This is what I report on every day.
	We have a lot of problems.
	And one of the biggest problems is that we don't have honest conversation.
	We protect people's feelings.
	We don't touch the taboo topics.
	We don't want to offend anybody.
	We don't want to get anybody fired from their jobs.
	We don't want them outcast from certain political groups or social clubs.
	We want everybody to get along.
	But that just doesn't work.
	Because it's devoid of the truth.
	Those kinds of conversations, that kind of will, although be it, it's morally upright, it's genuine, it's nice.
	But it's just not honest.
	We're going to have disagreements.
	I can call Dr. Paul Elias Alexander, a friend of mine, and I can have disagreements with him.
	And then I can say that very publicly.
	I can say it to his face.
	And I do.
	And I will, always.
	To anyone that ever comes on this program or that I have contact with in real life.
	Honest conversation is something that we're really missing in this country.
	People are scared.
	People know something is going on.
	People might not go down the same rabbit holes that I do or that Jake Shields does or that Lucas Gage or Dan Bilzerian does or that Nick Fuentes touches.
	People might not have those conversations, but they know that something is going on.
	They know it's not good.
	They know where it's coming from.
	They know that their government's not doing the bidding of the American people.
	They know that their government's not doing the bidding of the American people.
	These conversations are very important.
	We need a complete rethink.
	A society-wide revolution of the way of thinking.
	I think that that's really important, to have honest conversations all the time.
	But it's just not happening.
	It's not happening on the Joe Rogan Experience.
	It's not happening on Megyn Kelly's show.
	It's not happening on the Fox News channel.
	It's not happening on CNN.
	It's not happening in print anywhere that's widely distributed.
	It's not happening on a lot of so-called dissident alternative media alt-right digital broadcasts.
	It's not happening on networks like Infowars.
	It's not happening on Tucker Carlson's show.
	That's for damn sure.
	And so you have this laser focus kind of thing.
	And when a platform like this one or a name like mine or a guy like me will just remain steadfast and unrelenting in broadcasting the truth of findings based on facts and evidence, regardless of whose feelings it hurts, It's really easy to focus a network like this or a man like me for destruction.
	It's really easy to target somebody like me for destruction.
	And so I will carry that weight.
	You don't like what I have to say?
	I don't really give a shit.
	You can go, I don't care.
	But I will listen to people.
	I do admit when I'm wrong.
	I do make adjustments to the way that I do things.
	For example, the release of this film.
	A lot of people got on me.
	I listened.
	I thought some things made sense.
	I made some concessions based on promises.
	And at the end of the day, it turned out that I was right from the beginning and that people just don't want to support.
	They don't really want to be a part of anything that would affect some change or bring any kind of controversy.
	Why would I want problems with my school board?
	My kid has to go to school here.
	I don't want them targeted.
	People live like that.
	Do you see the big pride flag painted in the middle school hallway?
	Are you okay with that for an entire month of June?
	And then it never sunsets and they just leave it there, but nobody really says anything because they don't want to ruffle feathers.
	We live in a society where people don't want to bother someone with the things that they say.
	To the extent that they won't even stand up for their children who are actively being groomed from molestation and rape in public schools where they're supposed to be kept safe.
	Well, you pay for it.
	People don't want to be critical of Trump's foreign policies with Israel because they're afraid of being called anti-Semitic.
	Thank you.
	You don't want to be diagnosed with Trump derangement syndrome, so you just cheer him on?
	That's the derangement.
	We need to start having honest conversations.
	And yes, they will hurt feelings.
	And the more honest we get, the more feelings that will be hurt.
	Stick around.
	It's going to be a long ride.
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