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May 16, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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Logos Academy Episode 46: Aidan, Asatru Folk Assembly

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	All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are live.
	Welcome, everyone.
	It is episode 46 of Logos Academy.
	This is one that I've certainly been looking forward to for quite some time.
	We're joined by a good friend of mine, Aiden, who has in the past been a part of a book club that we hosted.
	You guys have been watching the show for the last two years or so.
	You probably remember that book club.
	It's something that...
	We're unfortunately not doing any longer, but he was a part of that book club and he was, I would argue, the best writer inside of that book club and one of the best writers that I've read from in general.
	He has a very good approach and very compelling arguments with things.
	So Aiden, it is fantastic to have you on in person for a visual interview.
	I never would have thought that would be happening.
	So welcome to the show.
	Nice to have you.
	I'm quite glad to be here.
	Yeah, thanks for having me, man.
	Yeah, I've been watching you to pray basically since the beginning.
	I remember I saw you on Gab for the first time, and we argued about the usage of the word white.
	And even though I wasn't convinced, I was like, oh, well, you know, this guy, he's got things to say.
	So, you know, I've been keeping up ever since, you know.
	That's fantastic.
	It's definitely been a journey of learning, and maybe we're closer to...
	A mutual understanding of the usage of that word today, I would probably assume.
	Yes, definitely so.
	Good.
	So maybe to give a little bit of background about yourself and just as a preface here for the audience, you are with the Asatru Falk Assembly, which is something that is...
	Definitely gaining traction.
	I'm seeing a hell of a lot more of it.
	I'm meeting a lot of people that are genuinely involved in the organization.
	So I'm excited to talk about that in a little bit.
	But before we go into the organization and talk about some of the beliefs that you have and behind that, I first want to kind of preface and give the audience a little bit of understanding of you.
	So maybe you want to go into how you got involved, first off, in politics in general or the Jewish problem as we see it.
	What gained your interest for...
	Looking at these topics and starting to write about things like this and kind of what inspired you as a writer as well.
	And then we'll go into some of these other topics.
	So I was raised very rural, conservative Christian, but with kind of like a liberal slant from some of the family members.
	And so I kind of got to experience a lot of different things in like 1990s America, you know, early 2000s America.
	I had a really nice childhood.
	It was very idyllic looking back on it.
	But when I look back on it, it's because it was homogenous.
	It was traditional.
	When I was a kid, I remember Republicans used to argue about gay marriage, but nowadays that's not a thing.
	So it was very different when I was a kid, and I still kind of remember a lot of that.
	I wanted to be a soldier all my life, and then when I turned 17, I was convinced not to join the military because two veterans told me that Our government had done 9 /11 and I couldn't serve my country if I thought I thought that we did 9 /11 so I kind of like I kind of became a hippie I'm not gonna lie I kind of went the wrong way you know with that information and for the next like maybe five years six years I was traveling and playing music and while doing that I met so
	many people from so many diverse backgrounds and it Absolutely blew my mind a lot of the things that I learned from these people because I, you know, I had like a very Christian and at this point kind of liberal slant, you know, very kind of Christian liberal.
	And I just, it completely blew my mind meeting Mexicans and Blacks and Native Americans and hearing their views on things and understanding that our white view, our, you know, secluded European-American view on these things were very pale compared to, it's a very weak, you know, understanding of.
	Of race, ethnicity, ancestry, culture.
	We just don't really understand our own and we don't really understand other people's.
	And when I realized this, I kind of had a mental breakdown because I didn't, I like had an identity crisis.
	I was like, I didn't know who I was.
	And I ended up, you know, just turning to books, turning to history and reading a lot.
	I'd always been writing.
	I've been writing poetry and stories since I was, you know, very young.
	Probably like 10 is when I started.
	I don't know why I started.
	I just kind of did, you know, just had the desire.
	And over the years, I've just gotten a lot better at it, you know, because I keep doing it.
	And I didn't have anything to write for, though, until I became aware of our situation, you know.
	And that came from a very close friend of mine who I'd been playing music with.
	He read Mein Kampf, and he made me talk about it.
	And I was so upset.
	Everything he said, I was like, you're a terrible person for thinking all of this.
	But he was my best friend, so I had to hear him out.
	And at the end of it, I ended up realizing I was wrong.
	And so I came home, basically.
	And I've changed my life around completely ever since, realizing the situation that we're in and that we do have an ethnic identity.
	But it's definitely something I wasn't raised with completely, but it was always present, almost like it was being taken for granted by my family and by my community that we had these cultural, racial, ethnic foundations.
	That we just don't affirm.
	We don't even acknowledge it.
	But it's all throughout everything.
	The words we're using.
	We can go on about it all day.
	But there's quite a lot of stuff from our ancestry that we still carry today.
	From the language, from our attitudes, everything.
	And so I've just really kind of...
	When I realized that's what I had to write about.
	I just, you know, there's so much to write about, you know, it's endless now.
	And then when it comes to paganism, you know, I was raised very Christian.
	I walked away from the church when I turned 17. Basically, when I didn't want to be a soldier, when I turned 17, I kind of just became a hippie, as I said, you know, and I didn't really believe in Jesus anymore or anything like that.
	And I remember meeting some...
	I remember meeting people who were pagan and talking to them about it.
	And it was so different than what I had heard.
	Like, I had known about the AFA much longer before I actually joined them.
	And I had just thought, oh, those are the crazy Vikings.
	You know, that's what I thought.
	And then when I started to really learn more about paganism, and I was like, okay, I'm interested in these people.
	I thought they wouldn't accept me because I'm more Gaelic.
	You know, I'm Scottish background with like German and French and Spanish.
	So it's like not very Nordic.
	Right.
	But they're very accepting.
	And the way their theology is very pan-European, pan-Aryan, you know, so they they understand a lot of what's going on.
	And plus, we do require community in a lot of ways.
	So like if you are like myself and you are pagan, you do have these views.
	It's not bad to do ritual by yourself, but it's good to do with other people.
	So that's why I kind of started seeking out other people.
	But, um...
	You know, I grew up very conservative, ended up walking away.
	Through my travels, I met tons and tons of people, and I ended up just coming back home, you know, because the truth is far too volatile.
	It's far too powerful to just ignore.
	Once you learn these things, it's really hard to just ignore them.
	I couldn't ignore it, you know.
	And then I just had to throw myself into it, you know.
	That's just the way that you do it.
	If you know that this is the right thing to do, then you should just throw yourself into it.
	So pro-white advocacy, paganism, folkism, really, these things are very important to me, and they will remain so for the rest of my life.
	That's very well stated.
	It always blows my mind how many people there are out there that can look into these things and take a...
	Half foot in kind of a stance where they'll talk about it a little bit, but it's not something that they take too much interest in or they're like, oh yeah, I get that.
	I understand what you're saying and I probably agree with you, but it's not really my interest.
	I've never been able to understand that mindset because as you said, this stuff is, and especially when you're talking about your ancestry and your upbringing being taken advantage of, that's something that very much resonates with myself because I certainly felt that as well.
	I always described it.
	You probably heard me say it on my show.
	For Christ's sakes, I say it all the time.
	But I've always described how many times growing up, my family was racist.
	They didn't like other groups.
	They didn't like other ethnicities.
	And they were very clear about that.
	And it was like, you stick with your own kind of a thing.
	But they weren't racial.
	They didn't have this understanding of their background and the importance of their traditions and their heritage.
	And none of that was brought to me or given to me in any kind of way.
	So you have to hunt for that yourself.
	And waiting until you're an adult to look for something like that, it's a damaging experience spiritually.
	I would really argue that.
	So you give a very good explanation.
	I think maybe to kind of start us off to talk about this concept of paganism, which I think, personally, I'm not a fan of the word itself because I think the word is heavily subverted and has a lot of negative connotation underneath it when it's used.
	So if maybe you want to give your definition of the word paganism, how you view it, I think that would be a good starting point to create maybe an understanding as to where you come from as an individual.
	So I usually don't call myself pagan.
	I usually call myself folkish.
	Sometimes when dealing with normal people, I will use the term pagan, because if they Google folkism right away, it's going to give them a whole bunch of stuff that they're going to turn away from.
	So sometimes I'll tell normal people I'm pagan.
	You know, and the word pagan, you know, comes from Paganus.
	It means, like, a rural person, country person.
	It is an insult.
	I mean, it's like calling someone a country bumpkin, you know.
	And, like, if you called me a redneck, like, I'm not going to feel bad because I grew up in the country.
	But, like, other people don't want to be called rednecks.
	You know, like, if you're not a redneck, you don't want to be called a redneck.
	And it's kind of the same thing with paganism.
	I mean, it has connotations to it that we don't necessarily ourselves bring into it.
	It's brought outside.
	And so I use the term fulkish.
	And what I mean by folkism is folkism itself isn't really a religion.
	It's really a philosophy.
	But if you take that philosophy and apply it to religion, it oftentimes returns to the ancestral religions.
	That's just the ontology of folkism.
	It leads you towards your folk, towards your ancestors.
	But really all that folkism is, is it's a philosophy that seeks to...
	Preserve and maintain and even perpetuate folk groups.
	I mean, that's the third part, perpetuating, adding to them.
	It's not a stagnant thing in a library.
	It's a living thing in our blood that we have to take part in.
	And so I call myself folkish more than anything.
	Yeah, I think that's a good...
	As you know, I'm very big on linguistics.
	As you mentioned, we were arguing over the term white in the past.
	I'm a very big person when it comes to linguistics and how much things have been diluted.
	I mean, even just as one example that I think is also foundationally important, the word nation.
	You know, the word nation always meant race.
	That was always what it meant.
	And now in the modern context, people hear nation, they don't think of race.
	You know, you get a guy like Charlie Kirk, who calls himself an American nationalist.
	It's like, what does that even mean?
	Because you don't talk about race.
	You don't care about race.
	So you're not a nationalist.
	You might be a patriot, but you're not a nationalist.
	And I think in that same smooth, I think it's, you know.
	The same concept is you're not necessarily a pagan, but you're somebody who looks towards your ancestral heritage.
	And I think folkism, which is actually a term that I'm not familiar with personally, is maybe a more accurate description, something that I'd have to look into myself.
	Yeah, so folkism, its historical roots ultimately go back to the von der Vogel, I think is how you pronounced it.
	Wander Vogels.
	I don't know.
	I'm not German.
	But it was like a youth movement prior to National Socialism, prior to World War I. But it maintained itself going into those times.
	And it definitely influenced them quite a lot.
	And you know Guido von List.
	Guido von List also was very interested in all that stuff.
	And he utilized this term as well, Volkisch.
	And obviously Germans, they developed Volkisch nationalism and all that.
	That's all the historical root of the philosophy folkism.
	It was started by nominally Christians, and then it slowly became more pagan over time, just because that's the ontology of it.
	If you follow the logical conclusions, you're just going to end up back at your folk.
	But it's not necessarily just German.
	There's also...
	English people and Scottish people who took part in this.
	I think there's probably others.
	I just don't know.
	Probably Romanians.
	I'm sure there's Slavic people who've done this, I'm sure.
	Folkism is ultimately just a natural expression of a genetically related tribal group.
	But it's something that for Americans, folk culture for Americans is very unique because we have all these different people here.
	Like Appalachian folk culture is kind of an amalgamation of Scots, Irish, and English.
	We all have our own folk cultures here that are unique to us because it's a lived experience that we have lived, not other people.
	That's why it ultimately can bring you back to your people because basically it's just Identifying who you are, identifying the things that your people do, and then just doing those things, because that's just the right thing to do, you know?
	But yeah, folkism ultimately does have its roots in, like, vulkish stuff from Germany and those von der Vogels, you know?
	So it's not completely pagan.
	As I said, it's more of a philosophy, but it's utilized.
	The philosophy is heavily utilized by all right-wing pagans.
	Like, we are very vulkish in our philosophy.
	Yeah, and I think, you know, obviously we talk about national socialism a lot on the show, which certainly took some of these concepts.
	I mean, they use the term volkish itself extensively.
	I mean, it's in a lot of their works, their speeches, things like this.
	So to maybe draw a little bit of more understanding, you mentioned Guido von List, and I think it's important for the audience that might not be familiar with who that is.
	He was a...
	Essentially the founder of this concept of Ariosophy, which was looking back at your ancient Aryan roots, looking into your heritage, your religions.
	He was a strong believer that when you look at Germanic runes, for example, that these symbols hold more than one meaning.
	It's not just you're looking at a letter, like you would look at a letter from the alphabet, but rather you're looking at a symbol that...
	Not only encapsulates maybe a letter or a vowel, but also encapsulates some kind of a deeper concept behind it with some kind of traditional value or something of that nature.
	So they were very big on symbolism.
	And it's important to note that a lot of these concepts were certainly like a predecessor to national socialism.
	National socialism was intrinsically bound with studying a lot of this stuff.
	Guido von List, they had used the swastika in an editorial that they were using for quite some time.
	So they definitely drew some of these concepts.
	I think that's an important little piece of information to know and maybe to also talk just on the political end, too, to give the audience a little more perspective of yourself.
	If you want to give your take maybe on National Socialism and its correlation to folkism and things of this nature, I'd like to hear your take on that as well.
	Well, National Socialism is ultimately a political theory that was serving the German people at that time and can serve any folk group if they want to take it and just strip it of all the German stuff and just take it for themselves, they can.
	Because it's ultimately a very folk-focused Political theory.
	I mean, I don't know really if this is true, but to me, it seems like the basic foundation of National Socialism was the folk.
	And then from there, they built up out of that, which is just the way to do it, you know?
	So, I mean, like, I definitely think that if you look at how National Socialism operated, if you were folkish, you definitely would thrive in a National Socialist society.
	If you are more maybe universalist.
	You're not going to thrive in a National Socialist society.
	But if you care about your people, then National Socialism allows you, it gives you the opportunity to actually act on that care with agency.
	That's something that we don't have in capitalist America.
	If I wanted to go and do things for my people, I'm handicapped.
	But in a National Socialist government, I wouldn't be handicapped.
	In fact, I would be uplifted.
	I would be...
	You know, honored for the things that I've done.
	That's the way to do things.
	It's way more wholesome and life-affirming.
	So I think National Socialism, out of any political theory, is probably the only one that can fully affirm folkism because it allows for all the classes, all the types of people within the folk body to actually partake in the culture and the civilization.
	So it's really good for that.
	And it doesn't get rid of hierarchy.
	You know, get rid of a whole bunch of, like, I know Hitler was saying he wants to, you know, like, make a lot of the German classes, like, more equal in a lot of ways, but not like a communist, since he was just talking about, like, you know, how rich Germans don't care for poor Germans, and poor Germans didn't fully understand what the rich Germans were on about, you know?
	He just wanted them to understand each other more.
	So, I mean, national socialism doesn't get rid of hierarchy.
	If anything, it affirms it a lot stronger, I would say.
	So, yeah, I definitely think National Socialism is very positive from a folkish perspective.
	Yeah, I think that's a very good general assessment and, you know, something that's also very important for people to understand because you get this very Normie-esque kind of take about National Socialism that, well, that was for Germans, you know, and if they won, we'd be speaking German.
	And it's just this, like, very, like...
	Misunderstood concept.
	Yes, National Socialism in its inception was because it is a racial understanding of things.
	Well, they were German people, so of course they pushed it through a German lens.
	But this is, above all, it's a philosophy.
	It's a world philosophy practicing essentially natural law, right?
	Looking at, recognizing that...
	Race is a bloodbound thing that you cannot choose.
	You don't get to change that.
	You can't alter that and create a new race, right?
	You have what you have, and we should recognize what we have, and that's the predecessor to our culture, our language, our heritage, everything is that blood, right?
	So it's a recognition of that and putting that into a political principle.
	And this is probably, you know, what's so important about this is this has never historically been done.
	And I think the reason that it's never been done is because it wasn't necessary because in the past, well, there was no intermixed multicultural, you know, like cesspools like we have today, where in the modern society after the industrial revolution, you get all of this multiculturalism where people are all mixing together and these different heritages are clashing and people groups are vying for power in the same state over each other.
	This wasn't something that existed before.
	National socialism is a reaction to it.
	And the problem is that we're still in that situation, especially if you live in America.
	It's probably worse here than anywhere else when it comes to the racial side of things.
	So seeing as we're in that situation, and now you have thousands, maybe millions of Americans that are waking up to the fact that their heritage matters, being...
	Quote, unquote, white, right?
	Or having some kind of linked ancestry to European heritage matters in the grand scheme of things.
	Now that they're waking up to that, they need a political vehicle to take them to putting something into practice about it, right?
	Because as you said, you can't open up a...
	A white-only business nowadays.
	Black people can do that, no problem.
	But you're in a situation where you don't have the ability to make these choices politically, right?
	So therefore, we need a political vehicle to enable us to make them.
	And as you stated, I think national socialism serves as a good fit for that.
	And this is something that can work with any racial group, whether it's the English or the French or the Italians, any group that's willing to accept these kind of ideals.
	of natural law and folkish belief, I think national socialism is a perfect fit politically for them.
	Yeah, I definitely think so, too.
	Yeah, I agree.
	So to maybe ask you and get a little bit into your part of the Asatru Folk Assembly, which is a very interesting organization that I'm sure most of my active audience here is probably not incredibly familiar with.
	So I want to give them.
	First and foremost, maybe a little bit of background and understanding as to what the group is, how they came about, what their ideals are, and what they're here for.
	First and foremost, if you just want to give us a short explanation of the Asatru Folk Assembly as an organization, what their modus operandi is, if you want to give us that.
	Well, the modus operandi basically is to just provide ethnic Europeans with a route to worship our gods.
	Our gods, we're providing that.
	So if you are interested at all in worshiping our gods with our people, we provide that.
	We have Hoffs.
	Just hang on.
	So the Austro-Polk assembly ultimately is a folkish assembly is what it is.
	We are trying to build kindreds and communities where people are.
	Not really trying to convert people.
	It's not really a big thing.
	But where people are.
	For example, there's a lot of us in Indiana, where I'm at, and we are able to meet every month and build friendships and relationships with each other.
	We can help each other.
	Basically, once you...
	Once you join the assembly, it's like joining a church, a normal church that anyone can be comfortable with.
	You can network with your people.
	You can build relationships to the point that, I mean, I know people who work out with each other.
	They help each other get jobs.
	People have gotten married through the assembly.
	I mean, it's just a community.
	It's a religious community is ultimately all that it is.
	First and foremost, is this only in America?
	Is this a global organization?
	Can anybody join this organization?
	What would be some criteria that you would need to fit in order to be a part of the Isatru Folk Assembly?
	Do you have to be politically leaning one way or another?
	Do you have to have a certain racial contingency?
	What are some kind of things behind that, too?
	So, we are active in Europe.
	I don't believe we're active anywhere else, but we are active in Europe.
	You know, we've got Russians and Swedes and other peoples, you know, and there's definitely other Austria groups in Europe.
	Austria is well and alive in, like, Britain and Spain and stuff, but the AFA ourselves, we do have folk builders over there.
	Not as robust as America yet, you know, most of our stuff's here in America.
	We have four Hoffs, four buildings, North Carolina, Florida, I believe Minnesota, and California, the first one, where our founder, Stephen McNallum, lives.
	We don't really have political criteria.
	It's really difficult for leftists to join us.
	Why would they, first off?
	You check out our Wikipedia page, they're going to be turned off.
	Most leftist pagans don't really care about the ethnic component to it.
	I've met some leftist pagans who do, but they don't like the AFA because we are more focused on that, you know, and we have a stigma because we do advocate for our people.
	Yeah, you can't be, you have to be European descent to join, you know, you know, we don't allow like Michelin's and other mixed peoples, you know, you have to be.
	Largely, by a large degree, European.
	And, you know, most people are Northwestern European.
	You know, we accept other people, like other Europeans, but it's almost all of us are Northwestern Europeans.
	Those are the only people who are really ultimately that drawn to the Norse and Germanic gods.
	And, you know, like for other things, you know, we do background checks, you know, like we don't want degenerate, like...
	Pedos or hard drug users to be around our families.
	We have children.
	And we believe in the nine noble virtues.
	We don't want people who are incapable of doing that or have already proven themselves as being untrustworthy in those ways.
	We do have some criteria, but we're pretty open.
	It's not like it's a closed system, for sure.
	Yeah, it's good.
	I think a level of criteria is very important, you know, to weed out bad actors or just people in general that are not great citizens, we'll say.
	You know, this is something that is kind of tough with our movement, as we call it, right?
	This awakening is, well, anybody's welcome to join.
	Because it's just a movement of the consciousness.
	So now you have people that are hardcore alcoholics with a serious dark past that are filtering themselves into these areas because, well, I'm mad at society and society is run by Jews.
	So fuck the Jews.
	Which is a very bad take because we get bottled in and associated with things like that.
	We're like, wait a minute.
	We have way bigger moral contentions than just like, hey, I'm mad at society.
	There's a lot more to it.
	I think standards are very important, and it's good to hear that there is some kind of a standard that leaves a blanket of comfortability for normal people, we'll say, to associate themselves with.
	Yes.
	And I should note that, just to kind of touch on what you were saying, there is a soul sickness in our people, and I believe it stems going back to conversion.
	We broke oaths, and we've slowly lost ourselves in this process of Having broken those oaths and becoming more universal.
	And this soul sickness is so widespread.
	I mean, it's in me.
	It's in you.
	It's in everyone watching.
	It's in all the people that we know.
	I don't know a single person, even the best men that I know in our movement.
	Even these great, great, moral, awesome guys, they still have this soul sickness.
	And it's because it's generational.
	We've had it handed down to us by our great-grandparents and all of these people who allowed for egalitarianism.
	The civil rights movement, you know, all of the slow betrayals to our ancestry and to the gods, all of these things have added up, you know, the opposite of blessings, like curses, and this has a real effect on our soul.
	And so, in, you know, with what I'm doing in the AFA, there are people who just get washed out because they just don't, like, why would they, like, maybe they're interested in it, they need community, but...
	You know, they can't really, they're not really invested.
	And since we are an organization that's invested, a lot of those people do slowly get, you know, weeded out.
	So they might join, they might be a member for a year, but they maybe only come to one thing and then they're gone because they were always going to leave in the first place, you know.
	So, you know, that's also a thing.
	But dealing with the soul sickness of our people is really, really like taxing.
	It's very taxing thing to do because dealing with it in yourself is difficult, but much less a stranger, you know, who like you want to help because he's another white guy, you know.
	But at the same time, you know, it's our entire race is like this.
	You know, he can't help every single white guy who doesn't know how to keep a job and can't stop drinking every day, you know.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And, you know, this is also...
	Maybe a moral piece that I think is also really important that goes back to our ancestry, right?
	And our morality has been changed fundamentally in many different ways.
	But one of the big ones is when it comes to charity, right?
	And looking out for the weak and whatnot.
	I think this is a big problem with a lot of these more mega religions.
	And you do see this a lot in Christianity where there is this Promotion of pulling in people that are weak and at wit's end.
	Naturally, lack of better words, this is an inherently dysgenic process.
	If you only are recruiting people that are weak or in a bad state in life, I've never heard anybody want to come to me and preach the good book when I'm happy and things are great in life.
	They want to preach it when you're bad and things are down and you're depressed.
	We need saving, right?
	So I think this also goes when it comes to this concept of charity, the morality that we have around it, where we have this desperate need inside of us to want to help this guy who's in a terrible state in life without looking at the morality behind what I'm doing, right?
	I think to myself, oh, it's good to help and it feels good to do this, but am I helping the right person, right?
	Like if you help a guy...
	Who is later going to get on his feet and stab you in the back, either literally or metaphorically?
	Is that the right moral decision to make?
	Are you helping a person?
	Should I help a homeless pedophile just because he's homeless and down on his luck?
	I think those are things that need to be taken into account when we look at things like charity and helping somebody.
	I shouldn't be helping someone just because they're weak or just because they're in a bad spot, but because they're a deserving individual who's in that spot.
	And I think that's a very important take.
	And kind of in line with what you were saying, where you can't help everybody.
	You just simply can't.
	So you have to take that effort and that energy of helping and that goodness that you have for that and delineate it to the right people so that you're not wasting that energy.
	Yeah, that's true.
	It's definitely a big problem in more evangelical Christian churches where it's a numbers game for them.
	And it's not for the AFA.
	We don't care about getting all the people that we can just so that we can look like we're successful and we're helping people or whatever.
	That's not it.
	Christian churches definitely have a problem with not having the right preferences for who they're going to assist.
	Yeah, I would say so.
	We look at the hurricanes that happened in the country this year that were devastating to North Carolina and a couple other different areas.
	I didn't really see any Christian missions going down there and trying to help out.
	I saw a lot of pro-white movements going down and doing that.
	But additionally, they had no problem going to Haiti four or five times, however many times we've been down there helping.
	And help is unwanted.
	That's the key.
	These people want the handout as help.
	They don't want the actual foundations and the assets that are required for things.
	I think that's good.
	One thing I forgot to ask, and I think it's also important, again, just for understanding here, the term Asatru.
	Can you explain that term, what that means for somebody that's just hearing that for the first time they're going Asatru?
	What's that?
	That doesn't sound like anything I've heard.
	Please explain what that term means.
	So it just means those who are loyal to the Aesir.
	Aesir just means those who are loyal to the Aesir.
	The Aesir are the gods of Europe.
	They have been identified under many names and epithets.
	They were identified first, thousands of years ago on the steppe, before we were ever Germans, Russians, Italians, Gales, whatever.
	Before we were any of these people, when we were all one group, our gods were identified.
	And as we spread around the world, we took them with us.
	We took our understanding of them with us.
	Obviously, they have been there in the world, but we took our understanding of them with us, and it changed with us.
	It's a living thing.
	It's not going to just say stagnant in a book like some other people we know.
	It's a living thing that changes over time with the lived experiences of the tribe.
	So, you know, the Aesir are the Nordic...
	Okay, that's a very good explanation.
	I think that helps a little bit.
	Now, you also mentioned that this is a community building organization.
	What kind of activities can someone expect to be a part of if they join this organization?
	What kind of people are they going to meet?
	Are their families involved in something like this?
	Is it an all-men's organization?
	And when they're in this organization, what do they do?
	What can you expect?
	Are you weekly going to a church or are you monthly doing a festival?
	What kind of activities can be expected for someone that would be interested in something like this?
	It kind of depends on where you're at.
	If you're in a state where there's not really a kindred or there's not a lot of members, you're a little shit out of luck in some ways.
	You might have to travel a little bit.
	But if you're in a state like North Carolina or California that has an active kindred system, once a month we get together and we do ritual called a bloat to a specific god.
	You know, like we have these festivals, holidays, they're holy days, basically.
	Once a month we gather on a holy day and we do a bloat to a specific god for that holy day.
	We do also meet up sometimes for restaurants and festivals and we go hiking sometimes.
	That's something that happens, but it's a little interspersed.
	It kind of depends on what the folk builder of that region is doing.
	If you're in an area that doesn't have a lot of members, ultimately the folk builders will Make you a priority and, you know, try to do things in your area so that you have things going on.
	So, you know, there's that element of it.
	You know, it just kind of depends on some of the other stuff.
	Like, say, every kindred's a little bit different.
	Every state's a little bit different.
	Some of them are more of like a boys club.
	There's a lot of guys.
	It just has to be expected.
	Some of them are a lot more rural, and there are some rednecks and hicks, and that's just to be expected.
	And then other kindreds are much more, you know, normal, quote unquote, you know.
	But, I don't know, we attract a wide array of people.
	I mean, there's, you know, there's bikers, there's farmers, there's lawyers, there's teachers, there's, you know, musicians like myself.
	There's all sorts of people who get drawn to this.
	And ultimately, we are all pro-white.
	So, I mean, even if we don't all have the same social class upbringing.
	We are still, you know, of the same race, and it's easy to get along with that.
	You know, definitely a lot of them, a lot of the kindreds, I would say, are more family-focused than in Indiana.
	That's just because we have a lot of men here.
	It's just a part of the nature of things.
	And I actually, sometimes I think that it's a little...
	I don't know the right word for it, but it's almost similar to how the rest of the movement is.
	Like, we do, as a larger pro-white movement, we do have families.
	We do have women.
	We do have people from upper class and lower class and middle class.
	We have all of that.
	But it does kind of, it feels like, at times, it does kind of push more to a more, like, harder, rough-edged male kind of, you know, setting.
	And that's definitely not, like, on purpose.
	That's just the nature of 21st century pro-white guys.
	Like, most of us are just, like, hard, rough guys, you know.
	But it is very family-friendly.
	You know, that's the major focus of the AFA is to be family-friendly and to offer, provide, you know, good space for that.
	Yeah, when it comes to, like, some of the other things, like, what can you expect?
	You know, Once a month, we do get together for these things, and each kindred's different, depending on the gothar and the folk builder who's running the moot, the bloat.
	But they are all a little bit different.
	Sometimes they have workshops.
	I know that some do workshops.
	Some of them will travel to historic sites, because we're folkish, and we're Americans, and we should care about these historical sites where we're at.
	We offer genealogical services.
	I mean, that's something that a lot of people like to do.
	There's musicians who get together.
	There's a lot of little things like that.
	But that mostly comes from you meeting a person in the AFA, and then you realize you both have an interest, and then you start hanging out for that specific reason.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's very good, and it's nice to hear that you actually visit Maybe some historical sites and things like that, because that's something that I think is overlooked, and especially by Americans in America.
	Again, it's like we've come from Europe.
	We brought all of this heritage and these ideas here, and we built the foundations.
	And then slowly, as the generations have gone on, we've just kind of forgot.
	It's just something that we don't think of or discuss.
	And it's certainly not through a cultural lens when you get it through the educational system, right?
	Like you learn about the founding fathers and kind of the constitution and these things.
	But you don't learn about these things as purely European concepts.
	Actually, if anything, I would actually argue in school, you learn about them as anti-European concepts, right?
	Where it's like, this was a revolution against Europe.
	And it's like, no, it was a revolution against like a political system over there.
	But it wasn't a revolution against those people.
	It literally is those people revolting against a corrupted system.
	And I think that's something that's really important is to look at America through a lens of heritage and a racial lens again.
	I want to go back to this term, paganism, and talking about I think paganism is one of these terms where, again, we already discussed that it's a heavily subverted term that actually just means rural.
	It's very akin to being like...
	Like a city socialite with a Louis Vuitton handbag and going, oh, those hillbillies over there want to join our dinner?
	We're better than you kind of a thing, right?
	I think it's very rude.
	And not folkish in the slightest sense, by the way.
	But additionally, I want to kind of build some more understanding around this term and the belief system that kind of falls with it.
	Because I think...
	One of the things in the modern age that comes with this subversion and misunderstanding of the word is you have, particularly in the last 40 years or so, in the United States specifically, it's become very popular for women to get into paganism.
	And again, this is why I don't like the term, because...
	What those women are getting into compared to what you're talking about and what you're doing are two completely different things that have absolutely almost no connection at all to them.
	And then these women get into black magic and tarot cards and they want to look into witchcraft and things like this.
	And this is a very subverted form of these ancestral religions and belief systems that would be described as Wiccan, right?
	Which, I don't know if maybe you know enough about Wiccan, if you want to describe what you would describe Wiccan as to the audience, or I can describe it, whatever you would prefer.
	Well, I would just call it a Frankenstein monster, so I think you should give the more historic understanding, because to me, it's just a Frankenstein monster.
	Fantastic, and it is a Frankenstein monster, and it's a Frankenstein monster that can be very heavily correlated.
	To liberalism as a Frankenstein monster, right?
	Liberalism is an idea that has European roots that actually had some really nice and sound concepts to it.
	And then Jews came in, they're like, oh, let me take my Jewish concept of liberalism and implement it into your understanding of liberalism and give you the liberal mutt baby, right?
	Pun intended.
	So now you have this very...
	Degenerate, mixed breed version of what liberalism is, right?
	And I think it's the very same thing with these ancestral religions where they take paganism, which was a concept that just was a spiritual belief system for thousands of years for millions of different people.
	And now they implement this Jewish version, which is Wiccan, which has quite literally, for those who aren't familiar, it's very important that you understand this.
	It has literal satanic concepts that are intertwined inside of it.
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	So it has literally satanic concepts that are weaved into it.
	Wiccan was...
	I can't remember the name off the top of my head.
	It began with a G, but this gentleman that came up with the concept of Wiccan, he was like a devout follower.
	Of Aleister Crowley, who was, you know, an Illuminati member and these, like, New World Order type kind of concepts and literally getting into, like, actual Satanism, right?
	Which, by the way, is another, one other frustrating linguistic thing that I want to touch on, too, that people have to understand is they would call what Aleister Crowley was doing occultism.
	Well, here's the problem is occult just simply means...
	The esoteric, the unknown, you know, what's above what the common person understands.
	So they also then try to, you know, equate what the National Socialists were doing with, like, the Abernay, looking into, like, archaeological digs of ancestral regions and trying to find their symbols in places.
	They were calling that occult practices, right?
	So they're now equating what Aleister Crowley is doing, which again is, like, this mixed, like, Jewish interpretation of...
	What the National Socialists would have been doing, and they're equating them as one and the same.
	So now you think, oh, those evil Nazis, they're just like Aleister Crowley and those evil Satanists.
	It's all the same concept.
	You have to draw that distinction between these two where the term might be the same, but the practice is entirely different.
	And, well, what's very curious is the racial concept or the racial buildup of what is making that practice different is a different group of people.
	So I think that's important to understand.
	If your take on that, Aidan, if you want to maybe explain this, in your eyes, this concept of different things, when we bring in a different racial group and they implement their ideas or their interpretation of something, how this idea essentially degrades or becomes something far different from what it was in its inception.
	If you want to maybe go into that a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think a really good thing to kind of bring up in this case is, well, just Christianity, because that's a really good example of when this happened in Europe.
	And these religions, our ancient religions, they gave us depth and identity because they were from us.
	And whenever we have another person, another group of people who aren't us, That's just the truth of the matter.
	And that's really what Europeans have done when it comes to Christianity.
	We have adopted a Semitic understanding of religion and divinity, and we've mixed it with our own understanding of these things.
	And that's never going to give you a truly holistic and life-affirming religion.
	The best things...
	From Christianity are all from us.
	It doesn't come from them at all.
	I do think that there is a level of syncretism that can happen between religions.
	I don't know how much is appropriate.
	I'm not a theologian.
	But I do think there's a level of syncretism that can happen and is alright.
	But it's the wholesale adoption of other things into your own.
	Religion or your own group, your own tribe, that will have long degenerative effects.
	You can't get over.
	And, I mean, like, for example, like, a lot of Christians will say, oh, you know, paganism's gone, you know, you can't get it back.
	Well, that's a part of, like, what we're talking about is, like, once you bring in these corrupting effects, it becomes very, very difficult to get back to a more holistic understanding.
	You know, we have to tread through a lot of bad, syncretic attempts, such as Wicca.
	I mean, like, Wicca is just an attempt to syncretize multiple things together for a modern audience.
	You know, it is the socially acceptable route for white people if they want to practice anything that's even kind of remotely close, you know, in aesthetic.
	Usually it's like an aesthetic thing for a lot of people who become Wiccan.
	And it's bizarre because, like, Satanism is a Semitic.
	Satan is a Semitic figure.
	I mean, like, he's not from our stuff at all.
	And so when pagans go, you know, I'm against Christianity, so I like Satan now.
	That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
	But a lot of pagans are like that, like more leftist pagans, I'd say.
	A lot of them are like, they're just anti-Christian.
	They don't like Christianity.
	They really don't like the West in general.
	I mean, and they decide to be, you know, I don't know, antagonizing.
	They play the devil's advocate, literally.
	They're literally playing the devil's advocate, where they're like, no, no, no, this guy, he's the good guy in the story against Christians, you know.
	But they don't, you know, does Wicca ever identify some of the deeper issues of Judaism?
	No.
	Are they an enemy to Zionism?
	No.
	So it's like, ultimately, they don't actually, ontologically, Wicca is nothing.
	It doesn't provide, it provides nothing for people.
	It is an aesthetic choice.
	And if you...
	I know people who joined the AFA and they were Wicca beforehand.
	A lot of these people, I think, are very good people.
	And they kind of shed a lot of...
	They basically just became Wicca because they didn't know about the AFA.
	But I've also met some that they very clearly have carried with them some of these just bad ideas, bad syncretic attempts.
	Yeah, so ultimately I think people shouldn't be wicked.
	We should be opposed to it.
	I mean, it is very subversive because it allows people to pretend like they care about their ancestors and they care about the gods of Europe, but they don't.
	They often worship chaos.
	Like, in our religion, we do not worship chaos.
	We do not worship the Jotunar and Loki.
	In the Greek religion, Kronos, we wouldn't worship Kronos.
	For the Gales, we wouldn't worship the Fomorians, these demonic, shape-shifting, oath-breaking, evil beings.
	But Wicca, they will worship those things because they're like, oh, you need the good and the bad and blah, blah, blah.
	And they don't really, they're not being ontologically or philosophically clear.
	You know, they're just...
	They're just mixing and matching like idiots.
	And I mean, honestly, it was probably pushed on them.
	It was probably pushed from other people, you know, and spread around because it's useful as a subversive tool.
	I don't think it's very natural.
	I don't think it's naturally occurring very much.
	So I think that the people who found it are very likely to be suspect in some case.
	Yeah, I concur.
	And what it seems to me is that it's a psychological trap, right?
	And it's exactly like, okay, let's say you're a casual American who says, oh, I don't really know if I like capitalism and my governmental system that's happening right now.
	Well, what the Jewish system does is right away...
	So that you don't go, oh, wait, I'm a fascist or I'm a national socialist.
	They throw communism or liberalism or, I'm sorry, libertarianism in your face, right?
	And they put that in there and they go, oh, here, this is the solution to this corrupt system we have.
	Look at liberalism.
	Look at libertarianism.
	Take a look at communism here.
	We've got solutions for you, right?
	So now, instead of focusing yourself on an actual solution, you get this again.
	Jewish half-diluted solution that's actually not a solution in itself, but it's a distraction from the adequate solution.
	So it'll give you some good concepts.
	Libertarianism is like, oh, we don't want big government telling us that you need to have a fishing license to go fishing at the local pond.
	It's like, yeah, well, everybody agrees with that.
	That's common sense.
	I don't even think a communist would say that they agree with having to have a fishing license to fish at a local pond.
	They use these concepts to try to work you in this direction.
	I think it's the same exact thing with Wiccan, where they'll take some of those good natural instincts that people have to want to look at their heritage and their ancestral faith, and they'll start to work in those other concepts, right?
	Where they're throwing in the pentagram and let's do something satanic here and here and here.
	And now you're...
	Again, you're on the right track.
	The people that fall into this are not bad people.
	They're people that are looking for positive solutions.
	They have some kind of a healthy instinct underneath, but they're being misdirected and misguided by a false idea that inevitably is the product of Jewish creation in every case, whether it's communism, libertarianism, or Wiccan.
	You can find the links to that every time.
	Yeah, when I was first converting, I looked and looked and looked for a Gaelic religious organization, and all I could find were the gayest druidic orders.
	I mean, they were so gay, and they were all basically Freemasons.
	They basically were just being Freemasons, but then pretending like they were druids.
	I mean, it was terribly, terribly gay, and that's the problem, is that if you're someone like myself, you want this.
	You know, and you don't know about the AFA, you can be misled or you'll just feel like there's nothing out there.
	You know, you'll just be like, oh, it's all just these gay people, you know, which is a big thing that I hear from Christians who criticize us.
	They're like, oh, all the pagans are just gay.
	You know, it's like these people aren't even pagans.
	I mean, like they're not actually following the ancestral religion.
	So it's it's it's really duplicitous to kind of group us all in together, which is the whole point of Wicca is to.
	Make it so that we can be grouped in with these just absolute degenerates who do not represent us whatsoever.
	They don't represent our ancestry whatsoever.
	And they definitely don't understand the religion, even though they definitely will purport that they do, you know.
	But I mean, like, for example, I don't know very many of these people who are even that successful at this.
	I mean, they're mostly, at this point, they're mostly an online phenomenon that shows up at festivals, sometimes in person.
	And that's about the gist of what they actually do.
	They're very impotent.
	They don't really do very much.
	And none of them want to debate or speak with any of the folkish people.
	They won't touch us with a 10-foot pole.
	And it's a very similar thing with national socialists constantly getting grouped in with more lowbrow type things.
	And no one actually wants to give you guys the time of day to have you explain things.
	And if they ever do, they're going to be very duplicitous about it and not be very fair.
	you know, and that's the It's to subversion.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And again, it goes right back to the point of why being racially conscious is so important.
	Because if you're racially conscious and you're able to just look at things through a lens of what group came to this idea, what group gave us this concept or this idea, You instantly know if you should or shouldn't follow the idea.
	It's like really simple, right?
	Because every time that you see somewhere where a Jew gave us the idea, again, communism or something like this, you know that it's something terrible.
	Again, you mentioned we have paganism and then we have Wiccan, which is a Jewish subverted version of it.
	Well, let's look at National Socialism.
	You have National Socialism, which was a German creation.
	It's a very nice idea.
	And then you have...
	Neo-Nazism, which is a Jewish-created Hollywood idea, which has literally nothing to do with National Socialism whatsoever, right?
	Just depictions of guys with their heads shaved and swastika tattoos all over their face, beating the shit out of random black people in the street and trying to buy illegal firearms under the table and stuff.
	That's not something any national socialist ever did in Germany.
	It has no concept that links with it at all.
	It's just a mere subversion of it to ruin the image of it, right?
	And I would say Wiccan is exactly the same in relation to paganism.
	And unfortunately, I think that most people today, when they hear the term pagan, they imagine Wiccan.
	They're not actually thinking of...
	An ancestral practice.
	Rather, they're thinking of the modern version of it, which involves the pentagram and all these weird practices that are literally outright satanic.
	Again, for the particular subversive reason of making people think that it's something to stay away from.
	Yeah, no, that's definitely true.
	And to kind of give some more body to what we're talking about, I feel like I should have said this much earlier, but the foundation of the religion itself, theologians, scholars, they call it the ancestral household religion.
	I'm going to mention this book for the audience.
	William Edward Hearns wrote a book called The Aryan Household.
	It was republished and reprinted by Empyrean Press, one of our guys.
	And it's been renamed the Indo-European Household.
	And I highly, highly suggest everybody listening to this, buy this book by William Edward Hearns, The Indo-European Household, because it'll explain to you the ancestral household religion of our ancestors, and it'll do it in a very perennial, pan-European way.
	It'll make sense to everybody.
	It's going to immediately have you thinking about all of these things in history that you know.
	You're going to be thinking about Rome, and you're going to be like, oh...
	That's why they had these attitudes, because they had this ancestral household religion.
	It's a patrilineal religion that goes down through the fathers, and the whole purpose of it is to set down households and to set down new worship of these gods with descendant lines of sons.
	And that attitude created our entire civilization.
	I mean, this is the fact of it.
	All of our tribes, all of our nations, a lot of the things that we take for granted ultimately were founded by people who believed in something like this.
	And so that's kind of something that I wanted to just mention while we were talking about these Wicca people because they don't understand that that's what this is.
	This is ultimately a very paternalistic, a very ethnic-based, a very racial-based religion.
	These Wicca people would say, oh, a black man can come and worship Odin with me.
	But they also would maybe get upset if you converted to some foreign religion.
	They're also kind of okay with it.
	Ultimately, they don't really have any real delineation between any of these things.
	They don't have any real boundaries between any of these things.
	While for us, the boundary is quite clear.
	It's the wall of your household.
	It's the edge of your familial tree.
	That's the boundary.
	And, you know, from on the other side of that, those are strangers.
	And you don't have to hate these strangers, but that's their stuff.
	You don't need to be taking any of that stuff into ours.
	It's just not going to work.
	It's not compatible.
	And it'll just cause really deep soul sickness like what we have today.
	I mean, that's what we've done.
	we've just adopted a bunch of foreign stuff and we've slowly become sick from it.
	It's like ingesting poison, you know, like you can ingest a little bit of poison and not die.
	But if you Yeah, unfortunately so, and there's a lot of...
	A lot of poisons.
	It's very hard in the modern age to navigate through and avoid all of these psychological traps that have been laid in literally every area that you can think of, whether it's religion, politics, even just social gatherings and groups.
	They implement these things in the field of medicine.
	They implement these things in.
	There's a trap everywhere.
	You have to be...
	Very keen and understood to know these things.
	I just want to take a brief breather.
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	Yeah, we would take...
	We would take albinos if it was just skin color.
	I mean, like, if I just wanted a bunch of pale people around me, I'd just go get a bunch of albinos, you know?
	Right.
	Sorry, I cut out again.
	I'm back.
	No, you're good.
	I think that's a really important, maybe that's even a topic piece we can discuss here, because this is a big problem with our people as well, is they get caught in this trap of yet another one of these psychological traps.
	Where race is skin color in these people's mind, where they're calling Jews white, and then on the same note, they're saying, oh, well, I don't judge people based on the color of their skin.
	I hate this.
	This is like the most subversive American phrase ever, right?
	Because I'm not judging anybody on the color of your skin.
	I really could care less about your skin color.
	It's about your racial character.
	I think that's super crucial.
	Japanese people have the same color skin as us in a lot of cases, right?
	And then, you know, when you want to...
	We talk about, like, brown people, right?
	Well, what is brown, then?
	If we're just using skin color, it's like, is that a Saudi Arabian?
	Is that a African?
	Is that a Vietnamese person?
	Like, they're all generally brown, right?
	So, like, it's not descriptive.
	Like, skin color can be a indicator.
	Of what race you are, but it's not the indicator, right?
	In the same way that your eye color or your hair color can be an indicator, right?
	For example, think of red hair, right?
	You don't see blacks walking around with red hair.
	You don't see Japanese people with red hair.
	So it's an indicator that you're of a very specific racial group that can only have that trait.
	But that doesn't mean that that's your race.
	Your race isn't your...
	Oh, ginger isn't a race, right?
	So I think that's very important that people have to understand that.
	And break down this subversion around the concept of skin color.
	It goes back to that term white that we had some issues.
	Maybe you want to give your take?
	Because I probably agree with your take today, actually.
	On white?
	The usage of the term white and maybe the issues around it.
	I still kind of use it in dealing with normies.
	I mean, dealing with normies, I kind of dance around things.
	But, yeah, definitely, like, poetically, I still think it's useful, but I don't think it's the best actual descriptor of our race.
	I think that there's much better descriptors.
	I think Aryan is a good descriptor.
	I also wish that all of the cognate terms of Aryan would be focused on, because it would get rid of a lot of the liberal things that they say to us.
	Like, we don't have to call ourselves anything else, but just to understand.
	Like, they'll say, oh, Arian is just like an Indo-Arian, Ironic-Indian term.
	Well, not really, because there's cognates in our languages.
	Like, Nordic has German, German has Ers, or Ere, sorry, Ere.
	And, you know, the Gales have Ere.
	And there's, you know, so many of these languages have their own related ones.
	And it'd be useful for us to know these.
	Like, if you're...
	A German, knowing the actual German word for it, you know, I think at the time they were calling it like Erich, A-R-I-S-C-H, in National Socialist Germany, I think that's what they would spell it as.
	But there's another cognate term, E-H-R-E, which means the same thing.
	And there's a Nordic term, A-I-R-M-U-N, same thing, you know, and that's useful to learn because then you can dispel liberals when they say, you're not, you can't use that term.
	Yes, I can.
	It's just, I'm just using what's more colloquially understood, which is the same thing with white.
	I'll use it because it's a little colloquially understood, but it's ultimately not the best descriptor.
	And I think, you know, I would argue that white is one of those same satraps that's been installed by Jews in order to create themselves a hyperbial cover for themselves to We're good to go.
	And I think, you know, I would argue that white is one of those same satraps that's been installed by Jews in order to create themselves a hyperbile cover for themselves to be a part of our civilization.
	Right.
	You know, you go to the DMV in the 1960s.
	You weren't putting white as your racial category.
	It was Caucasian.
	Right.
	Or something of the sort.
	Now, if a Jew goes to the DMV, they can just put white just like us.
	Right.
	So now they're included on our crime stats and they're included in our wealth and they're included in all these different statistics that are mostly not true in more cases than not.
	Right.
	Like white crime statistics or.
	You know, how much white income, things like this.
	Well, if a Jew who's a billionaire can write himself off as white, kind of skews the stats a little bit, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	And I think that's something that we have to be very careful about.
	And again, bring a good understanding.
	This is why I'm really not a fan of the term white.
	And I agree with you.
	We're in this weird situation where the average...
	Normie can only perceive this problem through that lens of, like, we're white people.
	And they have to have a deeper understanding here where whether we implement the term Aryan, which I'm certainly an advocate of, I think it's the best because, first off, it has a lot of, like, historic roots.
	And it also, it means noble, right?
	It's like, it means more than just...
	I know white guys who are fucking degenerate scumbags, and I don't want them associated with me because they're terrible people who are essentially a stain on our race.
	I don't want those people involved with me.
	I want to be around Aryans.
	I want to be around people that are striving to be noble, moral characters who care about their communities and their own well-being.
	I think that goes without saying, but yeah.
	I'm becoming more and more against the term.
	I'm really not a fan of it, but unfortunately, we're in a spot where I feel like we're kind of forced to use it when we're speaking public.
	Since I'm a poet, I do like to use it poetically, but that's really the main spot that I think it's useful in.
	I wanted to make a point, though, or just to kind of give more depth to this.
	The term Aryan is Indo-Iranic.
	It's the more eastern side of our Indo-European family.
	But it comes from a cognate root.
	So just like how mother and father has cognates in every Indo-European language, every single one has a version of mother and father.
	Every single one of our languages has a version of Aryan.
	And it's because of the root word, which is herios.
	H-E-R-Y-O-S.
	Herios.
	And the Herios was seen as your kin group.
	It was seen as those who come from the same gods as you.
	Those who come from the same fathers as you.
	And one of the most interesting descendant words of this would be Kordios.
	Which is really something that gets talked about a lot in like...
	People who study Bronze Age or Iron Age stuff.
	Or if you're like pagan, you've probably heard of Cordyos.
	But I'll explain the Cordyos to your viewers.
	So the Cordyos was a manurbund, as the Germans would call it.
	It was a group of men who were coming together based off of oaths and obligations and agreements they made with each other.
	And the Cordyos was initially a warrior band of young men who...
	It was an initiation thing that they would go through.
	The young men of the tribe would be sent out away from the tribe, outcasted, like as if they were dogs, wild wolves.
	They had to go live in the wild like animals.
	And in the wild, they would bind together like a pack.
	And they would do initiations with each other, raiding enemies and all sorts of things of that nature.
	And eventually they would come back as men.
	They would come back as fully formed men.
	These ideas of nobility, these ideas of the warrior ethos, of bands of young men coming together to set down new households.
	That's aristocracy right there.
	That's how so many of our tribes were founded, was because young men...
	Would bind together and go out into a new land, and they'd colonize it.
	We've done this so many times, and it's from these root, I mean, ancient, very, very ancient, like Calcolithic, early Bronze Age, like thousands and thousands of years ago.
	We started to come up with all these things, and we've used them, we've utilized them to create our civilization.
	It's very important for us to understand these things.
	The Germans definitely understood it very well.
	That's why...
	We have so many German words for these things, like manurbund.
	So if you're watching this and you don't know what a korios is, you can look up korios or manurbund, and you'll find quite a lot of stuff on the manurbund side.
	It's definitely something we need to replicate, again.
	And it's very closely related to the concept of Aryan and to our people and our identity.
	Yeah, I concur.
	That's very well said.
	I want to maybe give you the floor to take the conversation in a direction of your choice.
	I feel like I've laid a pretty good foundation for you so people have maybe just a general understanding of where you're from and where you're at and what your organization is standing for.
	Is there anywhere you want to take this?
	Anything that you wanted to specifically bridge onto or touch on in any way?
	I think the first thing that we should segue into is archaeogenetics.
	Archaeogenetics is a study that has helped me out so much.
	And so I'll just kind of give a bit of an overview.
	In 2015, we basically went through a genetic revolution where we are now able to tell the base pairs of the DNA going up.
	We know exactly what these base pairs are doing.
	We know exactly what these genes are doing now.
	We can identify the exact things that they're doing.
	This is groundbreaking.
	And another thing that we also discovered around that time is it's hard to get DNA from ancient skeletons because a lot of it's been decomposed.
	But we found out that there's like a bone in our ear or something that contains, like it's more preserved.
	And there's like new methods that we have for extracting DNA from these old skeletons.
	So since 2015, the genetic revolution has completely changed everything.
	This is why critical race theory had to be pushed, if we all remember that.
	Critical race theory was being pushed because a whole bunch of geneticists figured out they cracked the code, basically.
	And this is also why now we have CRISPR, which is like gene editing.
	That is only possible because of this revolution, because of these advancements in genetic science.
	Ever since that happened, we have had a plethora of genetic studies being released about our ancestors.
	This has been combined with archaeology to create a new field called archaeogenetics.
	Archaeogenetics is definitely going to help us understand the past, understand ourselves.
	It is very, very controversial.
	This is why we know for a fact that...
	People who are related to Europeans invaded India and set up the Vedic religions and Vedic culture.
	This is how we know for a fact that people related to Europeans went into Western China and made the Takarian nation and all that.
	But we know these things now because we have these advancements in genetic science.
	Prior to that, our enemies could just say, "Oh, you're just looking at skin color.
	You're just looking at superficial things." Or whatever.
	You know, they had a plethora of reasons to say that we were wrong.
	But now they literally cannot.
	So they had to come up with a whole new theory called critical race theory to try to stop it.
	And they failed.
	I want to make this very clear to everybody.
	They failed.
	They tried to make it so that we can't use terms like Anglo-Saxon and all sorts of terms.
	They tried to do this in the UK.
	It was going to be like a kind of like to test the concept to see if CRT can really get accepted in like top level universities.
	And it didn't.
	It didn't.
	So we all hate academics in our circles.
	Like, I often have real big issues with academics.
	But I just want to make it clear, there are good academics out there.
	There are good scholars.
	There are good scientists.
	They just are outnumbered.
	But these people, they are actually doing good work.
	And they have defended the truth.
	Maybe not our pro-white stuff, necessarily, politically.
	But they defend scientific truth.
	And they've been making sure that genetic science is still studied.
	I mean, there's IQ tests, like IQ genetic tests that have been done.
	There's one geneticist, I think, who did a study on the olfactory hormonal makeup of different races, which is how we know that Africans have all of these crazy hormone chemicals that make them smell bad.
	I mean, that's super racist, but that's going on now, that we have that sort of information at our fingertips.
	So I really wanted to stress that archaeogenetics is a study that, If you're interested in this sort of thing, if you're interested in your ancestors, if you're interested in the history of Europeans, it's great to go and read history texts.
	It's great to go and read those things.
	But ultimately, reading Tacitus, reading, I don't know, any of these, any of the old ethnographers of Europe, a lot of that stuff is really true.
	A lot of it's really fascinating.
	But it's not the same as genetic studies.
	And so there's a lot of misconceptions in our circles about our ancestors.
	Like, who are the Celts?
	How are the Celts related to the Germans?
	Who are the Germans?
	How are the Germans and the Nords related?
	Why is there a difference between Southern Europe and Northern Europe?
	What's up with all these Eastern Europeans?
	And how are we related to all of the whites who went to India and China?
	Archaeogenetics answers this definitively.
	And that's why people like me and other people who look into this stuff, we get kind of like adamant about it because I myself, I would go and look into my ancestors, my Celtic ancestors, and I would just, I couldn't, I was having such a hard time understanding it.
	I just didn't get who we were and it just so much was so confusing.
	And now I finally know it's because we come from specific cultures that are related to other specific cultures and they come from specific cultures, you know.
	I don't really want to go into too much detail about the archaeogenetics of Europe because it would get kind of heady, but I do think that that would be a really interesting thing to talk about because there's so many people, people groups, ancestral cultures and civilizations that we, common Europeans, we don't know about.
	There's this one civilization in Europe in the late Stone Age that's really damn impressive.
	It was way more impressive than Mesopotamia, which was its contemporary.
	We are told that civilization started with Mesopotamia and all this other stuff.
	Total lie.
	Not true at all.
	In Europe, there were more impressive civilizations, and we now know that we are directly related to these people through archaeogenetics.
	In the past, they would just say, these are pots, not people.
	That's what they would say.
	You know, like when we would dig up these archaeological cultures, they'd say, oh, these are just pots.
	You know, they're not related to any people, you know.
	But we now know for a fact they clearly were related to people, you know.
	And so that's why archaeogenetics is so important.
	And it's very important to the folkish, nationalistic, pro-white person because this allows us to answer questions about ourselves that even 100 years ago, we couldn't answer.
	So we're very fortunate to live in this time period.
	I mean, if you ever think of yourself as being unlucky to live in this time period, shut the fuck up.
	This is an awesome time to live in.
	It's just really dangerous and kind of sucks at times.
	But the depth of knowledge that we have now is it's at our fingertips.
	I mean, it's really impressive what these geneticists have been able to accomplish.
	Yeah, that makes me think of a book I used to promote a lot on my show.
	I don't promote books as much as I used to because I just do mostly interviews nowadays.
	But I don't know if you recall the book, Troy and Its Remains.
	Did I ever tell you about that book?
	Yeah, I remember this book, yeah.
	Yeah, it's by a man named Heinrich Schliemann.
	It's actually more of a diary than anything, realistically.
	He just kind of turned it into a book.
	But he was this archaeologist who went and did archaeological digs in the area where he believed ancient Troy was.
	And he dug up hundreds and hundreds of clay pots.
	I mean, hundreds of them.
	And they were loaded.
	With swastikas, some of them on all four sides, some of them just on the bottom.
	I mean, they all had swastikas all over them, which basically drove him to the conclusion that this was, in fact, an Aryan civilization, which is very important because it reaches back to that exact concept of, or, well, a refutation of this idiotic phrase.
	It's pots, not people, right?
	Well, the pots were created by people, so what people created them, that's very fundamental to understand.
	That's a good book, by the way, that I also recommend for the audience if you guys have not heard of it.
	Again, it's Troy and Its Remains.
	He also found some of the most popular...
	What's that jewelry piece that he found?
	It's a...
	It's a necklace that was supposedly a necklace of some royalty.
	I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head, but I definitely recommend that you look into that work.
	It's a good read, for sure.
	Did we lose you?
	Yeah, we did.
	Well, looks like we're solo dolo chat.
	I don't know where he went.
	I think he might have had some connection issues.
	There we go.
	Looks like he's back.
	Are you back?
	Thank you.
	Hello?
	Can you hear me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, sorry.
	I was loading a little slow, getting you in.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah, so I was just recommending that Troy and its remains, and then I went a little bit...
	Yeah, it seems like we have a slight delay now, a little bit.
	Hopefully that fixes.
	Anyway, I was recommending Troy and its remains to the audience and letting them know about that book.
	Did you have any other thoughts on this?
	Because I'm not well-researched on this topic.
	Archaeogenetics?
	Yeah, I mean, I have a blanket understanding where I...
	Probably have read concepts of it, but I'm not familiar with the exact terminology, I guess I would say.
	Well, I mean, it can get a little heady.
	I'm not going to lie.
	It really can.
	But ultimately, all that it is is if you just understand that when you read, like, if you go and, like, read, like, Wikipedia or something, and it talks about, you know, the history.
	Like, if you go to Wikipedia and you type in, like, the history of Britain and you go look at it, It'll mention in the Stone Age and Bronze Age sections, it'll mention these material cultures, such as the Western hunter-gatherers, or the early European farmers, or the megalith builders, the people who built Stonehenge and stuff, or the bell beakers, whatever.
	These are all just descriptions.
	We don't know what these people actually call themselves.
	And that's what kind of confuses people, is when you start talking about...
	Like, who were the Western hunter-gatherers?
	You know, that's a very difficult thing to explain to someone.
	I'm definitely not the person to explain all of this stuff because it does get very heady.
	And there's, like, specific ways that you can do it that's more palatable.
	But I can tell people who to check out, such as Tom Roussel of YouTube.
	He also goes on YouTube.
	It's called Survive the Jive.
	He's really good on YouTube.
	He's also really good at doing this.
	Dan Davis History.
	He's a pretty solid person.
	Also, I believe it's called Ancient European Genes Decoded.
	I don't remember that one.
	Never mind.
	Maybe I'll link it in the chat if I can remember it.
	But there's a few different people.
	Tom Roussel is probably one of the better ones.
	And Dan Davis.
	These two guys are pretty solid YouTubers that can explain to you some of these cultures.
	And if you watch some of...
	Like Dan Davis' videos are pretty short, 15-30 minutes long.
	Watching a couple of those will really start to build the picture in your mind of what archaeogenetics is and how it can explain to us some of these things.
	Because if it's written down...
	Scholars will just use the written names and ideas of these peoples.
	But if it's not written down, it's almost like they don't exist to a lot of people.
	So a lot of European history just doesn't exist to a lot of people because it was never written down.
	It just exists as material cultures and skeletons that are in the ground.
	It's pretty substantial when you start looking into this.
	Our race...
	I mean, we are the ones that figured out how to domesticate horses.
	We probably came up with the wheel, but we definitely came up with the spoke wheel and the chariot.
	I mean, there's a whole bunch of things like this that can be proven through archaeogenetics.
	So I definitely want people to try to...
	To check out those two guys, Tom Roussel and Dan Davis, if they're interested in this topic.
	Yeah, thank you.
	I appreciate the recommendation.
	So are you trying to tell my audience that the out-of-Africa theory is not true?
	Well, you know, what's funny is that both of those guys, I think, kind of subscribe to that a little bit, but I don't.
	I believe in hybridization between different ancient hominoid, you know, Different hominoid species.
	They're not the same species.
	And they've hybridized together, just like how different related species have been able to hybridize together.
	Difficultly, like with a lot of difficulty, you can hybridize, but it can happen, unfortunately.
	It's kind of gross, but it can happen.
	But yeah, no, I don't believe in the out of Africa thing, no.
	I think that if you go back far enough...
	In archaeogenetics, I believe there's not enough evidence, and they need more skeletons to convince people like me.
	Maybe one day they will find the quote-unquote missing links, and they can prove it to me.
	But as it stands, I just think that there's another model that can explain the shared genetics between the races.
	I think hybridization explains the shared genetics between races a lot better.
	But I'm not as well-versed on all of that.
	I mean, it's pretty heady.
	And it's confusing.
	Some of their terminology is very confusing, reading the papers.
	I should note, there's this writer, David Anthony.
	I think he wrote The Horse, The Wheel.
	But David Anthony, I think, is a good scholar to look up on this subject.
	Am I still with you?
	Can you hear me?
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah, and David Anthony, and then there's this Jewish guy, unfortunately, but he does actually step back, you know, whenever he's being too Jewish.
	David Reich, both of these guys have released material that is pretty easy to read that explains a lot of this stuff.
	If you want to read something, David Anthony's book, The Horse, the Wheel, and the Language or something, I can't remember.
	And then for YouTube, you know, Tom Russell.
	All these people definitely do believe in out of Africa, though, unfortunately.
	That's what the literature kind of points to.
	No one really wants to take the hybridization stuff too seriously.
	I don't know very many people who are well-versed in archaeogenetics pushing for hybridization.
	But from my perspective, that's what makes the most sense.
	And I think that it explains a lot of the things that they believe is evidence for out of Africa, such as shared genetics and shared ancestry.
	Like, I just think we probably hybridized at some point.
	So when you use this term hybridized, what exactly is it that you're theorizing with this?
	Because I'm not familiar.
	So it's basically these ancient hominoid groups who do not share You know, and they come from different evolutionary lines.
	They mixed with each other over the course of hundreds of thousands of years.
	I mean, it took a long, long time to successfully hybridize.
	And this happens between bird species.
	This happens between fish species.
	I mean, this happens with even like horses and donkeys.
	They can hybridize and make a mule, but the mule is infertile, right?
	Okay, well, we can prove through a lot of this genetic research that when different ancient hominoid groups would mix, it wouldn't always work.
	I mean, oftentimes they'd be infertile or they just couldn't actually have children.
	And that's actually true today for our races.
	Even though we're actually more closely related now than we were in the past, we still struggle, very much so, mixing with each other.
	It just doesn't really, we're not that compatible genetically.
	And that would, in my opinion, that can't be answered just through isolation.
	I think hybridization can answer those things a lot better.
	Okay, yeah, I can understand that.
	So it's like, you know, you think like Homo erectus.
	Like Homo erectus is an ancestor of the African.
	We don't have any of that in us.
	The Neanderthal, we have a little bit of Neanderthal in us, but mostly that's in the Middle East, West Asia, and India.
	They have actually more Neanderthal than we do.
	But Africans don't have any Neanderthal in them.
	How is that possible if all of these things all come from the same root?
	We should be able to prove that.
	But instead, I think that these things are all from different lines, and they've all just hybridized together to create a more human, quote-unquote, the more modern human, you know.
	Okay, I guess that makes sense.
	I like to try to, when explaining this, because like you said, it can get pretty tough to really exemplify what exactly we're getting into.
	But when we talk about this as a racial thing and discussing the separation of races, I like to kind of think about dogs here in this concept.
	There was a point where we had Just wolves.
	We didn't really have these domesticated dogs.
	And then we crossbreed them with other things, and we crossbreed again, and we crossbreed again.
	And then you get dogs that are prone to very specific behavioral traits, right?
	Like pit bulls are known to be inherently violent, right?
	What are they, like an old English bulldog and a terrier or something, I think is how they made pit bulls.
	Yeah, so they use these, it's two different combination of dogs, and then they create a third category through this that is essentially, it has its different behavioral traits, right?
	But the reason I bring this up is because I think this is the same when you look at humans as well, right?
	Whether we're not necessarily talking about the crossbreeding concept, although that is a thing too, but...
	Each group has traits, right?
	Like the Blacks are the pitbulls of the human race, if you want to be metaphorical about it, right?
	They're known for being extremely aggressive, unnecessarily aggressive in situations that don't call for it, which is exactly what you would see in a pitbull, right?
	How many videos have you seen online where one's just ripping apart a local horse that's just walking a chariot or something just for the fun of it?
	Yeah, so I think it's very important to look at it through that lens, because people, the thing is, humans, we do this weird thing where we go, oh, well, people have a soul, and so everybody can be this very specific way, and yada yada.
	And it's like, well, look, if you realize that...
	Most of those same people, they can also realize that purebreds are a nice form of dog.
	The same person who will tell you all humans have the same soul is the same person that will go and tell you that they absolutely need to go fly down to Florida to pick up this purebred Bichon whatever thing.
	$2,000 dog because it's purebred.
	Or the same person that wants to bet on the purebred horse at the race.
	These are very important concepts, right?
	So if you like purebred animals because you recognize a value in that, the same should go with humans.
	Humans should be unmixed, and that would essentially be the highest value human by default.
	Otherwise, you create these sub-races.
	So I'm curious to know if you believe in this assessment, which I believe in as well.
	You look at the modern-day Indian, for example.
	My assessment is that the modern-day Indian is a product of the ancient Aryan peoples who came to that civilization and essentially mixed with the aboriginal populace, which potentially could have looked like the aboriginals do today in Australia, who look almost very unhuman, if you really look at it.
	My assessment is that essentially the Aryan class that came there and created this civilization and built some foundations over there, they intermixed with an aboriginal class and that is what fomented and created the modern day Indian.
	What do you think about a concept like that?
	Did I lose you?
	I'm back.
	Your voice is dead.
	Can you hear me?
	Yep, there we go.
	Seems like you're having a little bit of connection problems.
	Is that better?
	Yeah, it's good now.
	There's just a little bit of a delay, that's all.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we can work with it.
	So, I don't know if you heard me, but basically, I was asking what your thoughts are on that theory of the creation of the modern-day Indian.
	Yeah, no, that's definitely 100% right.
	And, you know, the aboriginal Dravidian, India is already a mixed person.
	Before we ever got there, those people were actually already quite mixed.
	India is a gross, gross place.
	It always has been.
	They have this Australomelanesian thing.
	Damn.
	Yeah, I know.
	I keep cutting.
	Yeah.
	I heard Australomelanesian thing, and then you cut out again.
	So, so, uh, uh, Thank you.
	So, yeah, the Dravidians themselves are already mixed.
	They have Neanderthal blood in them.
	They have more Neanderthal blood than we do, on average.
	That's not really that known.
	India's a gross place.
	I mean, the Dravidians, the aboriginal Dravidians, are very genetically mixed.
	And after we left, they did get invaded by...
	Like Hunnic, Mongolian type people, I think.
	Some sort of Eurasian type person.
	And they got some Muslims.
	So they've really just been gross for a long time.
	Yeah, well, I think there's also a very similar concept when it comes to, like, the modern Mexican, right?
	Like, people always bring up, like, white Mexicans, right?
	Well, these are just, like, Spaniards who, like, intermixed with the Aboriginal populace in South America.
	And I love to talk about this concept because I think it's so important for people to understand.
	Have you ever heard of the concept of Latin American regret?
	No.
	This is a real thing.
	And you're familiar with Tanitris.
	He's the one that taught me about this concept because he's been to Latin America several times.
	And the people down there, there are a lot of people who are very clearly like mixed breed.
	They have some white ancestry in them that is like far off, but it's there.
	And they have what is called Latin American.
	It's a universally recognized thing down there.
	Latin American regret and that regret syndrome is that when the Spaniards came and colonized this area, they didn't bring their women with them.
	So they intermixed with the local populace and created what is the modern Mexican.
	And now these people have a regret and they wish that their ancestors didn't make this decision because they want to identify with that white aspect.
	It's kind of like almost like an Uncle Tom, right?
	Like a black guy who like...
	It has, like, 25% white in him, and that piece is, like, screaming at him internally that, like, you know, I'm not a chimp, you know?
	I'm not like the rest of these people.
	It's a very interesting phenomena.
	But, yeah, I don't know.
	I'm surprised you haven't heard of that concept.
	I haven't heard that concept, and it's totally something that you see in India, too.
	I mean, there are Indians that they think that we're cousins, and I'm like, no.
	We're not at all.
	I'm more Aryan than you are.
	I have more of a connection to the Vedic religion genetically in the sense that those people, the Aryans, come from the same people that my ancestors come from.
	Your ancestors drew Indian man.
	They were conquered by these people.
	It's the same thing with these castizos.
	It's interesting because I don't know if you've ever heard of castizo-futurism.
	I don't know.
	There's the There's just a weird thing with these mixed Latin American people.
	Like, some of them are very pro-us.
	You know, there's a lot of Latin American national socialists.
	And then they also, there's a lot of them who are, like, they believe in this, like, La Raza thing, where they, like, want to, like, take all, like, Black and Caribbean and Native and White and mix it all together into one South American race, uniquely South American race.
	Which would just produce India.
	It would just literally produce a giant India.
	So, I mean, it's a terrible idea.
	And I do feel really bad for any of the Spaniards that are trapped in South America.
	I think that South America was probably once a truly amazing place.
	Some of those cities that were built.
	But it isn't like that now.
	It is shocking to have pictures of...
	Like Uruguay or something.
	And you see how white...
	It's really shocking how many people are still Spanish or are expats.
	Like in Uruguay, there's a lot of German expats.
	But I hope these castizos...
	And then we're going to end up with a giant Nick Fuentes group of people who think that all whites should just be mixed.
	You know, like that should just be the future of the white race.
	And that's kind of something that you see with these castizos.
	They like...
	It's almost like a coping mechanism.
	They want to make us all like them because they're so miserable being mixed.
	It's a weird thing.
	Yeah, well, it's like you get, I guess, two sides of the coin.
	You get those that become like they want everybody to mix so that...
	They're acceptable.
	They want to become the standard.
	And then you also get those that literally hate their own and they're like, I want white people to rule the world and I want everything to be national socialist.
	You get this very weird...
	There are two racial coping mechanisms.
	And by the way, the important thing to realize here is this is one of the strongest...
	Like, statements against race mixing.
	Because if you have these people that are this internally distressed with themselves, where they literally hate their ancestors for the choices they've made, or they want the whole world to change to mold to them because they're that much different, this is like a fundamental identity crisis.
	And it shows one of the biggest problems with race mixing.
	I mean, there's a litany of other problems, but it's one of the bigger ones where...
	The product of the offspring that is created from this race mixing is always going to be a person that can't find identity.
	They have no background or heritage that they can identify with.
	I'll give you an example.
	I met this kid, and I do actually feel bad for the kid, but he's a Gruper, and he's like half Mexican, half Irish.
	And it's very clear that the Irish is the predominant factor, right?
	But he has a Mexican look.
	And he wants to identify with that Irish side extremely badly, but he'll never be recognized as Irish and he'll never be allowed in an ethno state, right?
	So he has to come up with this multicultural cope in order to like, oh, we can let everybody in as long as they're a good Christian and this and that.
	I don't care if you're 40% brown or whatever.
	He has to follow that cope because he doesn't get to fit in otherwise.
	He'll have to go to South America and live with all the other people that suck.
	It's a hilarious thing to look at, but at the same point, it's something that's very serious and why we shouldn't be ever making these decisions because you are fundamentally screwing that offspring over for life.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you really are.
	This is kind of one of the things that Folkism can help provide identity.
	It can help provide shape and foundation to your life.
	For example, mixed-race individuals, folkism is still something that they can use to help give themselves a better position in life.
	Obviously, don't race mix, but if you are one of those unfortunate people, you should just honestly...
	Like, this guy, if he looks Mexican, he just needs to become Mexican.
	He just needs to become as folkish and a good Mexican, you know?
	It's impossible, you know?
	But that's what people ought to do, you know?
	Yeah, and I definitely think that there's something sad to be said about people who lose this, like, element of their identity, you know?
	Like, I was raised repeating this phrase, Father Abraham had many sons.
	Many sons had Father Abraham.
	I'm one of them, so are you.
	You know, that's not true.
	That's a lie.
	Like, that's a lie about who you are and who you come from.
	And, you know, that causes deep, deep-seated problems that don't always show up right away and can take some time.
	And if that goes on generationally, the problems are going to be very strange and unique.
	And I think that we can look at things such as the Christianization of Europe and then the slow liberalization of Europe out of that.
	That's a sign of this slow degeneration based off of an identity crisis.
	I think that we could probably look at places like India and other places that I just don't know as much about and use those as good examples of this slow degeneration based off of an identity crisis.
	I mean, Indians identify with their conquerors.
	They identify with these people who put them in a caste system, made it so that they can't eat cow, all sorts of stuff.
	And, like, they still follow all of that stuff.
	Like, they don't eat cow because they're Dravidian and they weren't allowed to eat cows because we brought cows and that's something we eat.
	So the Aryan religion, the Vedic religion, talks about eating cows all the time, but they won't do it because that was taboo for them.
	But they still follow the Vedic religion and identify with these people.
	I think that that probably causes deep...
	Yeah, that's a very good explanation.
	And, you know, the Jews have done a very good job at intermingling into our royalty racially, right?
	Or they literally marry into our royal families and become a part of the bloodline, which then...
	It creates that same offset.
	The problem is that people don't recognize that one.
	It's really easy to see when royalty has mixed with an aboriginal because you get a very visibly different type of person.
	But when you have a Jew that mixes with white royalty, you can get a Jew that looks somewhat Aryan.
	They can look pretty damn close.
	Like there are some Jews out there that even have blue eyes.
	It's not common, but you'll get those cases and then they blend in and they're essentially the bearer of a very decrepit culture that they're going to bring about because they're in California.
	capable of holding those original concepts from either side, realistically.
	Uh, that's, it's a good explanation.
	Uh, and a good, a very good topic, uh, to discuss cause you could, you could just go on this topic for a very long time, which has, uh, So many concepts and so many underlying factors to it that it's an endless discussion.
	It really is.
	But we only have about 10-15 minutes left on the show here.
	So I want to give you a chance if you have anything else that you wanted to bring up or discuss.
	Any closing thoughts, something like that.
	And then we'll go to some promotions.
	I'll let you promote your stuff.
	And then we'll eventually close this out.
	So anything that's on your mind, go ahead and shoot.
	I really just want to say that if you're someone who's interested in paganism, in folkism, but you look at the gods and you're not so sure about all these pagan gods, Odin and Zeus and whatever, if you're having a hard time with that,
	believing in divinity or believing in these gods or thinking that these gods are worthwhile, but you're still interested in all of this, I really, really implore you to read William Edward Hearn's book, The Indo-European Household, and look into the ancestral household religion, because that is what paganism is, and it can really explain why all of these things are important, and how these gods came to be identified and understood, what their roles are, and how you can interact with these things.
	Obviously, it's real nice to have a community, but you can do it by yourself, just as good.
	And there's really no reason for any of us to not revere our ancestors.
	I can't prove that God made me.
	I can't prove it with logic and with evidence.
	What I can prove is that my ancestors made me.
	I can prove that.
	They are the reason that I'm here.
	They're the reason that Zach is here.
	Our ancestors, our shared ancestors, is why we are both on this show talking.
	We literally wouldn't be doing that if we weren't white.
	So this is the...
	This is why these things are important.
	If you can't understand why your ancestor is important, then it really is going to be a real handicap on you your whole life.
	So this is definitely something to look into, genealogy, genetics, and the ancestral household religion.
	Thank you, brother, and thank you for...
	For all of this discussion, this was a very nice discussion.
	It's very nice to talk to somebody I'm already aligned with.
	I talk to so many people on interviews and someone's different here or there.
	It's nice to talk to someone I'm very much aligned with.
	It's a very uplifting experience.
	Before we do close out, I want you to promote your...
	I know you have a substack where you do some writing, promote the Asatru Folk Assembly where people can find that, how they can apply and get involved themselves.
	Go ahead and throw all that stuff in and we'll wrap up after that.
	Okay, so when it comes to the Asatru Folk Assembly, we run a YouTube called Victory Never Sleeps.
	Check it out.
	We have a website called runestone.org.
	That's runestone.org again.
	Check it out.
	Please go check these things out.
	And then for myself, I have published a poetry collection called For Hearth and Home, Poetry for the Folkish by Aidan Fisher-McMellon.
	It's available on Amazon right now.
	I'm hoping in the future to be able to get some more books released and maybe get them published through one of our guys.
	That'd be real nice.
	And you can also find me on Substack.
	My publication is called The Enchiridion.
	You can also find me under folkism.substack, but the Enkyridian is what my publication is called.
	After, I think it's pronounced Epictetus, that stoic writer, Enkyridian means handbook or guidebook.
	Yeah, and I write pretty often on Substack, and there's a lot of really high-intelligent people on Substack, so if you've never been there before, dear audience member, please go check it out, because there are some high-quality writers on there.
	Much better than myself.
	I would argue that our intellectual elite largely exists in the podcasting world and on Substack.
	These two places are where the actual elite of our groups interact with each other.
	I concur.
	I think those are the feeding grounds for our intellects.
	Yeah, thank you again for coming on.
	Thank you for promoting all your stuff.
	And folks, also don't forget to follow all of my stuff as well.
	You've got my Twitter, which is the biggest one right now.
	LogosRevealedI on Twitter.
	There's a bio site link inside of my bio.
	Click on that, it'll bring you everything else.
	I too have a sub stack.
	I have not put it on my bio site yet.
	I guess I should do that.
	I've only written three articles.
	I'm not much of a writer until it comes to me.
	It has to be in the moment kind of a thing.
	I like to write.
	I just have a hard time sitting myself down and forcing myself to do it.
	It has to just be one of those spontaneous type of things.
	With that said, Aiden, thank you very much for the show.
	This has been an absolute pleasure.
	Anytime you would want to come on and discuss something in the future, you're always welcome.
	Yeah, I'd love to come on in the future again.
	That'd be great.
	No rush.
	Obviously, I'm real busy myself, but it was great being on.
	I watch you quite often.
	I'll probably keep watching all your stuff.
	You're definitely one of the best interview podcasters that we have.
	I mean, man, you've done some really cool stuff the past few months.
	I wish you luck in the next few months and that this summer is very productive and successful for you.
	All right.
	Thank you, brother.
	I appreciate that greatly.
	Have yourself a good day.
	Chat will have yourself as a good weekend, actually, everybody.
	And we'll be live on Monday the 19th.
	I'm hopefully going to pick up Mein Kampf.
	I've been dying to do that, but I've just had so much ridiculous amount of stuff going on.
	So hopefully on Monday the 19th at 4 p.m. Eastern.
	And we may be getting a schedule change.
	I'm in the middle of discussing that, so we'll see if that's going to happen or not.
	I'm not 100% sure.
	But with that said, thank you all for watching, and I'll see you guys on Monday at 4 p.m. Eastern.

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