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May 12, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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Logos Academy Episode 45: Leslie Bory

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	Welcome to episode 45 of Logos Academy.
	This is actually an episode that we were supposed to do a little while ago, but I had to postpone.
	So we are now finally joined by Leslie Borey.
	He is a very interesting character.
	He is a candidate for presidency in Canada.
	And he has...
	I've been arrested in the past for simply talking about the things that we talk about on this show every day.
	So that's definitely something that's a little bit frustrating to learn about.
	So Leslie, welcome.
	It's fantastic to have you on the show today.
	We've spoken once before, but it's nice to be a little more formal this time.
	Well, good day, Zach.
	It's nice to be here.
	Thanks very much.
	Yeah, so I guess to start us off, if you want to maybe give the audience just a little bit of background about yourself.
	We'll wait and go into your politics and stuff in a little bit, but just to kind of give the audience a general assessment of who you are, how you came exactly where you are today, and then we'll go a little bit more in depth and kind of discuss some of your ideas and what you've got going on moving forward.
	All right.
	Well, I've been in politics since 2010, officially.
	That's my first election.
	It was a by-election in Vaughan, Ontario, and I got arrested about 13 years later.
	And, you know, it was an interesting thing, I'll tell you that, because the COVID happened and I, well, the COVID psychological terrorist warfare operation, you know, took over the world pretty much.
	And I noticed that my politics changed at that point.
	I was living in terror with everybody else at the time.
	And a few years of that and I had my fill of it.
	So being a politician, I wanted to raise awareness of how dishonest all these things were on the news that we were hearing and how unnecessary these measures were.
	They were completely unnecessary.
	And these measures did a lot of harm to the Canadian people.
	My conscience wouldn't be very good if I had not done anything.
	And what I did do that got me into an awful lot of trouble was I asked people to come to my house with their guns and ammo and I asked them to go on safari with me to disarm and arrest the police, the politicians and the influencers involved in this mass murder, this vaccine murder that I saw unfolding in Canada and all over the world.
	A couple days later, the police showed up at my work and arrested me with the SWAT team.
	And I spent the next couple years in jail waiting for my trial.
	And I was charged with threatening police, threatening Justin Trudeau at the time, and threatening Jews and improper storage of ammo.
	And later on, I was charged with advocating for genocide.
	Incitement of Hatred 2.0 and I was also charged by the police the first day with Incitement of Hatred 1.0 under Section 319 of the Criminal Code in Canada.
	So all these things came up as a result of my political speech where I tried to name who I thought was running the country and running our world and who I thought was responsible for Pulling the levers on this paramilitary terrorist operation called the COVID pandemic, as they called it.
	And it was more of a vax-demic, as we know now.
	So I did what I could do without using violence, but cutting her pretty close because I used words.
	But I never picked up a firearm or never raised a hand to a single person in this whole thing.
	It was just all words.
	And they must have felt very threatened by my words because they ran me through the ringer for them.
	And I felt that I did a good job trying to expose the people that I thought were responsible for all this.
	Now I'm on probation for another 10 months.
	And even after the probation is done, I still don't intend to break our speech laws.
	But I definitely stated that I was breaking the Holocaust denial law, as they call it.
	We call it the Holocaust Believe It or Else law because that's what it really is.
	If we publicly claim that we don't believe in the Holocaust and give reasons for it, it's a two-year sentence in Canada for that.
	And it was the Conservatives that introduced that bill during the Trudeau government.
	But it didn't pass its bill, C-250.
	It did not pass.
	So the text of the bill was embedded into Trudeau's budget bill, of all things.
	And it was snuck into our law that way, into our law books.
	And so now that conservative bill is, in fact, a law after they colluded with the Trudeau Liberal government.
	And they're working on behalf of, I'll say, interest in Israel, perhaps, right?
	The Zionists, to keep us quiet about questioning their narrative about what they claim happened to them during World War II and camps in Poland and such.
	Yeah, you see how the government, even the controlled opposition, like no matter what flavor we think we're voting for, basically they seem to be propping up the Zionist end of things and not the Canadian end.
	So that's basically a background on what got me set at the Jails Act.
	Yeah, that's such an unreasonable circumstance too.
	I was reading an article from one of these mainstream sources in which, Jewish groups actually organized to basically pressure the judge at your trial to give you an even harsher sentence.
	They were trying to propose that you get the maximum.
	And I mean, this alone kind of shows that we have a bit of a problem here when we have all of these organizations and groups.
	And this is not only in Canada.
	I'm sure, as you know, it's in America just as much.
	Where anytime somebody does something that is deemed hateful or anti-Semitic, they're instantly doing everything they can to put a lot of pressure on that individual.
	So I'm very curious, when you were on trial for this, did any of these groups or organizations show up at the trial?
	Were they active in that trial at all?
	Or was it more like...
	Because I'm trying to understand when it says in this article that they attempted to pressure the judge.
	Were they doing this publicly or was this like a private endeavor that they were, you know, like blackmailing him under the table or something?
	I'd really like to know.
	Well, they certainly got a lot of press time, so they're definitely doing what they're doing publicly.
	What happened was I was set, or pardon me, I was convicted first, right?
	I was on January 14th.
	And then the judge let me out right after I was sentenced.
	Ironically, right?
	Because I was in jail the entire time.
	So once I was found guilty, I was released at that point, which my lawyer said that the judge was signaling that this is pretty much the end of your run in jail, right?
	Like, as far as this judge goes.
	Now, the terrorist group showed up, the Jewish terrorist groups, who work with the terrorist police, and they state this in their literature.
	How they claim to be in partnership with the police.
	They actually state this, right?
	So they do work hand-in-hand with the police somehow, even though they're not an official law.
	Well, they're official because they take government money, some of these people, right, to do what they do.
	But anyway, they definitely lobbied to have me spend even more time in prison.
	Now, my sentencing was on March 10th, and that's when these groups showed up in the Courtrooms Act.
	And that's when they, you know, there were five Jewish groups, I believe it was, if I'm not mistaken.
	I don't even know if I can name all of them.
	And there was one individual who claimed that he was a survivor of the internment camps, you know, and he survived the typhus and starvation, right?
	So he came out to try and cook me as well, right?
	He tried to, you know, throw my freedom into the oven, we'll say.
	And for another seven years, I guess I wasn't done yet.
	They want to beg me for a few more years, I suppose, right?
	So that's what they're, you know, that's what they're planning on trying to do.
	So the Crown prosecutors have actually, now the judge, basically didn't give me any more time at that point.
	I just got probation for a year, and he told me I couldn't have firearms in my house for a year, but I couldn't own firearms for 10 years, right?
	And that's an odd thing.
	What I think that was meant to accomplish was me losing my firearms anyway, because if we have nowhere to keep them for a year, then they'll just destroy them.
	You know what I mean?
	So, yeah.
	And the person, like my wife, who owns some of those firearms, basically she won't even be allowed to take hers if they destroy all of them.
	So it's just a gun grab is all it was for my speech violations, because I was convicted of threatening police, threatening...
	Justin Trudeau and Pierre Paulyou, they modified the charge.
	So I was actually convicted of threatening the two former leaders of the most prominent parties in Canada who are pretty much responsible for everything that's ever gone wrong in our country, them and the people that vote for them, right?
	Because those are the only two parties that have ever governed Canada.
	So everything that happens is basically, you know, they're doing.
	So I was convicted of that, I was convicted of...
	Incitement of Hatred 2.0 against Jews and against advocating for genocide against Jews.
	Yeah, and I thought, honestly, I thought I was being much more specific than the conviction would indicate.
	You know what I mean?
	Because I did point out that some Jews are basically helping us and, you know, very few, but there are a few, you know.
	And that's, you know, I was surprised to get convicted on that charge.
	It's just, it's insane.
	So these Jewish groups want to give me...
	Seven years in jail for my speech violations.
	And they want to give us life in prison now for if you say that you think that they shall get smoked or whatever advocating genocide would indicate, right?
	So they want life in prison now for speech violations.
	And I mean, if we hold them to the same standard, I think a lot of people from their group would be in jail too.
	If my interpretation of the Talmud is correct and the The Talmudical scholars and the Hebrew scholars that translate this Talmud for us, if their translations are correct, then, you know, maybe they'll be throwing themselves in jail for life for what they've been teaching each other in that Talmud, if it's true, right?
	I have to say it like that because, you know, we have funny laws in Canada.
	We can't just, you know, say things outright.
	We have to kind of claim it's our opinion anymore or whatever, you know, walk around the issue any longer because our speech isn't...
	It's not guaranteed in this country.
	We're not safe to speak our minds, Zach, as I found out.
	And a lot of people that encountered me in prison were surprised as well.
	You see, I told them, and I was stating this earlier, but I lost my train of thought.
	Basically, I broke the Holocaust Believe It or Else law on purpose, and I stated the fact.
	In my videos, I said I'm breaking that law right now.
	They didn't charge me with that because, you know...
	The political fallout would be something else, like right before an election to find out that the conservatives actually introduced an anti-speech terrorism law, you know what I mean, where they terrorize us if we speak our minds, or if we disagree with politicians, Zach.
	We're not allowed to disagree with politicians or the police that enforce these anti-speech laws now.
	So it's not just a matter of inciting hatred, but they call...
	If we don't believe in the Holocaust, they call it inciting anti-Semitism.
	Imagine that, Zach.
	You know, it's amazing.
	And this is coming to America as well.
	You'll notice that they're trying to shut you guys up as well down there in America.
	And I believe they just passed that one law against BDS, the same way that they passed it in 2018.
	I believe that just happened.
	Yeah, you guys are under attack big time down there.
	Yeah, this is definitely a global effort.
	And this is very important for the audience to understand as well is that, you know, like you have it in Canada, or I'm sure it's probably just as bad in Germany when it comes to speech laws, especially around this topic specifically.
	You know, they're attempting to do this everywhere.
	And if they're able to get this on a global scale, this becomes very dangerous, where there's almost, you know, no actually Speaking out or doing anything to actually raise awareness around this question.
	You are right.
	They passed a couple things in America in the last couple of years.
	One of the more recent ones was in South Dakota, which has maybe a 0.5% Jewish population.
	There's barely any Jews at all in South Dakota.
	They passed an anti-Semitism law there.
	They're attempting to make it a felony charge.
	Which is very interesting because they're going by the IHRC's definition of the word antisemitism.
	And in the law that they're trying to pass, it also states that it's the working definition.
	Well, this is really dangerous because if next week the IHRC changes the definition of antisemitism to hurting a Jewish person's feelings, well, now that's technically illegal and that's a felony, right?
	So they could change this definition at any time.
	And then the felony kind of suits the needs, right?
	So this is very dangerous, and obviously you know why they're doing this.
	And I don't find it surprising, by the way, that they had a 95-year-old token survivor at your trial here to play.
	They always want to pull this emotion card, right?
	And hope that people's emotions trump their reasoning.
	And they say, oh, well, that poor man, you know, let me ignore what...
	This gentleman is saying, which is accurate and true and very important, because this man looks sad.
	And that's kind of the card that they always try to pull in these situations.
	They've always got their little token victim that's been persecuted or harmed or something.
	One other thing I'm curious about in regards to this, and then we'll move on to your politics a little bit more.
	Were you ever contacted by any of these organizations?
	Did any of them try to state anything to you, make any direct accusations against you personally or rather like, I don't want to say threatened.
	Did they ever contact you, any of these Jewish organizations?
	They didn't need to.
	They used the Crown and the police to do these things.
	They have other people to do their work for them.
	They make a showing here and there.
	And I'm not sure if it's entirely beneficial to their cause to be pursuing me the way that they are.
	You know, a lot of people think that we have free speech in Canada, and this has really shown them that they don't, you know?
	So to answer your question, no, they didn't come out directly, but in a way they did because, you know, they have access to police and they have a lot of power.
	So I believe that these levers were pulled.
	There's no doubt about this.
	Yeah, I agree with you too.
	I think there is a bit of a silver lining there.
	I don't mean to make light of your sentencing or what you went through, but there is a silver lining in that a lot of normal people see that happening and they start to kind of change their understanding of things and go, that's kind of weird.
	The guy said a couple words and he's in jail now.
	That doesn't really make much sense to me.
	The more unjust they get, the more...
	I think that's a very important piece here that we have to kind of take advantage of when they're doing things like this that are so far-reaching and absurd.
	We have to put that on display and make sure that everybody's aware of just exactly how they act with the power that they have.
	So to move us forward a little bit and go more into your politics, you talked about when...
	COVID happened, your political mindset very much shifted and you changed the way of thinking that you had.
	What were some of the things that shifted?
	Where were you at and where did you shift yourself to politically when you saw all of this going on?
	How would you describe yourself prior and how would you describe yourself now as a political individual?
	Well, I felt a sense of urgency during COVID.
	Before that happened, I thought, okay, well...
	They're lining us up.
	There's no doubt they're dialing us in for some reason in the future.
	But when I saw them start to execute their plans in my time on this earth, I thought, wow, I was amazed that that actually happened.
	You know, we're all, well, not all of us, but I mean, there's some of us that think that, you know, we can see things coming, but we didn't think it would progress so quickly.
	And I was amazed at how quickly that they'd go about their business.
	You know what I mean?
	And I was amazed at the destruction that they left in their path there.
	Like, so many people got vaccinated.
	And so many people were poisoned.
	And so many people got injured and died.
	So I felt a sense of urgency to change gears a little bit.
	And I've noticed that they brought violence into our war of words.
	You know what I mean?
	So I was trying to brace Canadians for the eventuality that I thought would happen, that we weren't going to be able to vote our way out of this, put it that way.
	You know what I mean?
	I really didn't think we were going to be able to do it.
	And I'm still not sure we can.
	But I'm going to push peaceful change to its limits and see what we can accomplish.
	At the very least, we'll be more organized if I do a good job organizing the public.
	So in the event something happens, who knows?
	You know what I mean?
	People will be more of a community and be able to help each other.
	They'll be able to lean on each other a little bit better than they will now when they're all divided.
	And I'm trying to unite a lot of people too, right?
	Not just us white folks, but everybody, right?
	It's all hands on deck in this fight, you know what I mean?
	Everybody's a target, so everybody should be trying to stop the outcome that they're trying to instill.
	And that's what I'm trying to work for.
	But yeah, so when that COVID happened, that COVID terrorist operation happened, the psychological warfare terrorist operation that that was, I thought I'd just go into basically...
	Red Dawn mode almost at that point, like still being a politician, but kind of getting people ready for the future as I saw it unfolding.
	And it wasn't a very good one, you know what I mean?
	So I didn't think anybody would come to my house with their guns and ammo because I didn't have very many followers, you know what I mean?
	I had no dreams or illusions about us taking back our country that following Saturday.
	But I did want to increase the size of my audience, you know, so we could have a normal conversation and start speaking sensibly.
	Up until then, I'd been a little bit more fiery in my dialogue and just trying to get more attention from people.
	So now that I've got the attention of a lot of people and, you know, you're helping a lot, Zach, by having me on your show, I don't have to yell and scream anymore.
	I can just sit back and tell people what my plans are and, you know.
	It'll get us more results, I think, this way.
	But at first, I just needed to get a bigger audience so that the word could spread a bit better.
	My going to jail accomplished that.
	So thanks to the people out there that didn't just let me go to jail in silence.
	They actually amplified my voice while I was in there.
	And now I can speak to many more people than I could before.
	And I'm going to use that opportunity wisely, I hope.
	And that's my intention.
	That's great.
	And I think that's a big key in what we're doing here.
	As people get pulled aside by this power structure and attempt to ruin their lives and things like this, it's very important that we stand up for each other, raise awareness around those things.
	I'm very close with Monica Schaefer.
	She was actually the first person that made me aware of you and what was going on with you.
	And she was...
	Extremely vocal about your situation.
	Very much helped to tell people about what was going on.
	So it's always important that we're doing that.
	And additionally, I love to give anybody who talks about these things a platform.
	I mean, geez, the amount of people of different backgrounds and stuff that I've talked to on this, it's quite uplifting to know that there's that many out there and there's still far, far more.
	And I think you might be one of the very few people from Canada that I have interviewed, aside from Monica, which is very interesting because Canada has some rough laws that I think, by the way, most Americans aren't aware of.
	I think most Americans are under the impression that Canada has free speech, right to bear arms, exactly like we do.
	They just view it as another America, a different America.
	And it couldn't be farther from the truth, obviously.
	Luckily, they attempt to do a lot of those things here, but it doesn't go over so well because I think they have to very much slow boil it here because every American has a gun in their home.
	Every American is kind of armed with that screw the government kind of a mindset that's always been somewhat present here, even if it's for the wrong reasons, which typically it is.
	It's so good that they all have that spirit, which is, I think, what makes them do the process a little bit slower here.
	So we have a little more time, not to say that we should be patient about it or anything.
	So talking about you as a politician and somebody who is interested in politics, you are running for presidency.
	That's one of your primary interests here.
	Yeah, to be prime minister, yeah.
	Prime minister, sorry.
	So with this run...
	First off, since you've announced that you're doing something like this, how much traction have you seen in your direction?
	Have you gotten a lot of negative backlash around this, positive response?
	Have you had any kind of reactions with the public that are very confident in what you're doing or very happy to see what you're doing?
	What has been the general public perception of your announcement that you're trying to?
	It's been pretty popular.
	The calls for me to be Prime Minister are growing all the time.
	People see that I really care about what happens in this country, and they can see the difference between me and the people that I was accused of threatening.
	So, yeah, it's going to be good.
	We're starting from nothing.
	So we haven't even registered a party yet, but we're going to be doing that.
	I can't predict the time frame, but Fairly soon.
	So I've got a couple of groups of people that are willing to help, and they're willing to get their people on board with this as well.
	And we're just going to go through the baby steps just to register the party, just make a simple effort to do that.
	And after that, we'll ask for donations and start to grow this party and get more people involved.
	So basically, when people tune in to shows like this in this time period, right before...
	You know, the next election, the next four years, they're going to witness right before their very eyes the beginning of a new party in Canada, I like to think.
	And hopefully a new beginning in our country or a real beginning, an honest one.
	And we're going to have a real country one day.
	And it's going to be more like America.
	We're going to have gun rights.
	We're going to have language rights.
	You know, and we're going to have a manufacturing base that's far larger than the one we have now.
	We're going to bring that back.
	We're going to start reeling back our manufacturing from these other countries.
	We're going to start bringing it home.
	And we're going to do that incrementally.
	So as we bring industry back, then we'll protect those industries with price controls, otherwise known as tariffs, or even product bans.
	We won't allow certain products into Canada if we're making them here.
	We don't want things to compete with us, then we just won't let them in.
	It's a simple matter.
	Introduce tariffs on everything like Mr. Trump is doing.
	That just ruins everything.
	It makes everybody's costs go up.
	You shouldn't do that.
	And in the future, we're not going to have taxation in Canada either.
	We're going to have all the services that we'll ever need and the best services that money can buy without charging tax to our people just by backing the printing of that money with the labor of the civil service, which was worth more than gold.
	So that's a simple matter.
	Yeah, that's definitely a big one.
	You know, when we look not only in Canada, America, I mean, globally at this point, economically, a lot of these countries are going through some serious problems financially.
	You know, I think that's a really big starting point for the average citizen who maybe hears what we say about Jewish power or things like this, and they're skeptical on it or they...
	Don't really want to hear us out.
	I think for them to understand economics and what is going on economically is very important because being in America here, you talk to the average conservative Trump voter, and most of their response as to why they voted for him is, well...
	Lower gas prices, or he's going to help with the economy.
	So they're very much looking out for their own lot and how they're doing financially.
	And for them to be even displayed with this idea of not having taxes, which I don't know about Canada's circumstance, but in America, this is like...
	Founding principle of our country, right?
	Our founding fathers in America were throwing barrels of tea in the ocean and revolting over a 1% tax, right?
	So the idea that we should be paying 40% to 50% of our income in taxes to a government that doesn't even recognize our existence or do anything to really help us, very, very few things.
	I think it's not that crazy of an idea.
	It's a foreign idea today that people just haven't heard.
	And I think that's a big platform for you to have to speak about taxation and economics.
	I'm curious, how do you plan to enlighten people about these financial problems, that being central banking and things like this, where we're basically beholden to foreign entities financially?
	How do you plan to kind of...
	Bridge that to people and discuss this with the populace.
	I like to keep it very simple for them.
	Those are the only terms that I myself can only understand anything in the simplest of terms.
	Basically, all you have to do is explain to people that money is printed out of thin air, but no one ever prints the money for the interest.
	Every time they print a loan, basically, they're putting a sponge into our economy.
	If by chance that loan gets paid back, The principle, which is the sponge, comes out of our economy, but it's also full of interest, right?
	And then they'll understand that there's always more debt than money.
	And when people say you print too much money, it ruins the economy, you can tell them that, no, it's because of the interest, that the inflation goes up, right?
	Because the more interest they charge, it means that you get less for your paycheck, because you have to divert more and more of your paycheck into the banker's pocket to pay for your house.
	And to all the goods that you buy because this whole country runs on credit.
	So when interest rates go up, all prices go up.
	And that's the thing.
	You're not fighting inflation by raising interest rates.
	You're actually just pouring gas onto the fire and making it hotter.
	It's not very good.
	So people just need to know a few simple truths.
	And you can tell them when you stop printing money, that's when the economy is going to crash because you always have to keep printing money to...
	Finance that interest charge that no one ever seems to have because no one's ever printed the interest, right?
	So if you stop printing money, then you'll cause depression because there'll still be sponges left in the bucket when there's no money left in there, right?
	Basically, it's like having a bucket that's dry.
	There's no water in it, but yet there's sponges in the bottom.
	You still have to pay those loans back, but there's always more debt than money, so they can't pay it back.
	People understand that.
	It's simple.
	You know, every time you print a bank loan, you're just adding to the debt because there's always money or interest being charged, but no one ever prints that.
	So a couple of simple things should be adhered to.
	And I don't think we need to make it any more complicated than it is.
	If we come out with a simple platform, we know the questions that people are going to have are going to come rolling in.
	And that way we can enlighten people when they ask us questions instead of just us telling them things.
	You know what I mean?
	When they ask us questions, they'll learn.
	But if we come at people and just tell them everything we know, they might not let it sink in too much.
	It'll be hard to get through to them.
	But when the people are curious and they start asking questions, even giving satisfactory answers that are very simple, we should win the day.
	And I see that happening in the future.
	Yeah, there's a lot of ignorance out there.
	There's no doubt.
	But even now, I've noticed that more and more people know that banks print money out of thin air.
	When I first started, it was unheard of to meet anyone on the street that would know these things.
	Now they know it.
	Well, that's good.
	That's definitely a change in conscience.
	And I think that's a very good message that you're portraying.
	And a good explanation of it, too, to put it in layman's terms.
	Because finances can be a very complex subject to understand all the nuances of how the stock market works and all these different areas.
	It can be very tough for the average American to...
	Or the average citizen, rather, to understand these things.
	And then, additionally, to then guide them as to what to do about it, right?
	Because a lot of people, well, I mean, the typical person, they come home from their 9 to 5, and they want to relax after a long day of work.
	And they hear all these complex financial or political subjects, and their instant reaction is, I'm going to turn that off.
	I'm going to have a beer and watch football or something.
	It's definitely something that we have to work on, where people are not feeling like these things are so complex that we can never speak of them or ever approach them in any way.
	And that's why it's good to make them palatable.
	And I think that your description did a very good job.
	Another big issue you talked about, uniting people.
	As I'm sure you know, and everybody here knows, I don't think our countries have ever been more divided, politically, socially.
	However you want to look at it, any angle, we are the most divided.
	And I think COVID displayed that very well, where you had families that, based on vaccine status, wouldn't be eating dinner with each other.
	That's how bad it was in some cases.
	So you talked about unifying people, and I'm going to make an assumption here.
	I think it's a safe assumption, knowing what I know about you.
	I assume that you are disgusted by the two-party system of right and left politically.
	And I would also assume that you plan to hopefully pull us away from that two-party system.
	Maybe explain to us how you'd want to do something like that and how you want to bring both the left and the right, which are so fundamentally opposed to each other on so many different things.
	How do you want to unify these people and bring them together?
	What would be your method to be able to do something like that?
	Well, Zach, I don't think I've ever met a person that didn't like money.
	How about you?
	Sadly.
	There you go.
	So, uniting the nation around money should be a simple matter.
	And we just have to explain it to them simply how we're going to do it.
	If we explain to the people of our country that can't buy a house that when we capture the ability to print our own money from these people, when we retake that ability, right?
	We take that high ground.
	Not only will we have the right to print our own nation's money, but we'll...
	Also be in control of the debt.
	And that means we can reassess any debt we have in our country right now.
	So if we reassess the value of our homes, we can reassess the mortgage debt that goes with that new reassigned value to a house.
	So if someone bought a house for $600,000 and the thing's only worth $100,000 at the most in a real world instead of this crazy world that we're living in.
	We could easily adjust the mortgage debt, and chances are that a lot of these people will have paid in excess of what the new debt is or what the new cost of the house is.
	So that means that they're going to be homeowners overnight.
	It's simple.
	This money was all printed out of thin air to begin with, but we're not going to charge interest anymore either.
	So, you know.
	People, I think, are going to like the idea of being able to afford a home and paying it off in 10 years instead of in 25 or 50 years or never, the way that things are going now.
	So that'll be a big improvement in people's lives.
	And, you know, we'll be printing the world's most valuable currency.
	What are the puffy-chested conservatives going to say about that?
	You know, when they try to tell us to back where the gold's said, or we come back at them and tell them, well, human labor is worth more than gold, you know?
	How did the gold get here, by the way?
	And that should shut him up pretty nicely.
	And we'll thank him for coming out at that point.
	I like it.
	That's a very good counter-argument, actually.
	How did the gold get here?
	I like that a lot.
	So, now, additionally, you talked about earlier the Republicans or the conservatives that...
	Pass these anti-Semitism bills and Holocaust bills, much the same as what we have here.
	It's never Democrats passing those bills.
	They colluded with the liberals.
	So basically it's like they colluded with the Democrats.
	Okay.
	So they can only work together on that one subject.
	Very interesting, isn't it?
	That's the thing.
	The hated, distrusted government that did kill a lot of people with vaccines.
	And they're hated and distrusted police, if I'm right in my opinion about what people think of them.
	I might not be, but I think I am.
	They seem to always work together, even though they're on both sides of the political spectrum.
	There seems to be a common ground with these people, and it's always to bring in anti-Semitism laws.
	Imagine that.
	Yeah, it is quite interesting.
	It's the one thing they seem to agree on.
	Every turn, every event, they're always at wit's end with each other.
	But when it comes to supporting Israel or sending foreign aid over there or signing a bill to help them out, it's always something that they can agree upon.
	So I think that alone is very telling.
	There's a lot of common ground there, isn't there, Zach?
	There certainly is.
	Probably common financial interests too.
	Having this understanding, and unfortunately, the conservatives really push this God's chosen people, greatest ally narrative.
	They're very big on this.
	How do you plan to combat this mindset that a lot of conservatives have that, well, exactly that, that they're our greatest ally, and they're God's chosen people, and these people have special rights above us that we have to look out for?
	There's a lot of unfortunate Well,
	I tried to do it directly before, but because I've been convicted of these things, I'll have to do it indirectly, which may even be more effective than me just being very direct and blunt.
	I think that beating around the bush on this one might be the way to go about it and get the best results, believe it or not.
	You'll notice that in movies, when they subtext, they can have a whole two-hour movie, but they'll just mention one little thing in it, you know, just to get that seed in people's heads, you know what I mean?
	And we have to be a little bit patient, even though we're in a great big hurry.
	We have to just plant seeds and just let them grow sometimes, and that's what I'm going to do.
	Treat the symptoms, we'll say, Zach, instead of the causes.
	You know what I mean?
	And if I can bring a cure or treat their symptoms, maybe like the financial system, the legal system, things like this, and our economy as well in general, like bring back our manufacturing base.
	Maybe people will start to take a second look at what's been told to them in the past.
	And also what I could do and what I plan on doing, and I've done it already, I've stated it publicly.
	We're going to have public inquiries into some affairs in Canada.
	And we're going to share the results with the world in a very noisy way.
	And I think we're going to talk about the Balfour Declaration, about our involvement in World War I. World War II history should be examined as well.
	Remember, if I become Prime Minister, we're going to have a whole different set of rules to live by.
	We're going to be able to speak our minds here.
	But leading up to that, when it's still illegal, I can still put it on my platform to change laws.
	You know what I mean?
	And people may ask, you know, is this even a law?
	A lot of people won't even know this.
	So that'll help raise awareness as well just by putting certain things on a platform and telling people that in the future they'll be able to question World War II history where they're not allowed to now without going to jail.
	Things like this, right?
	Maybe I'll bring in laws that'll protect the majority from minority rule.
	You know, protect the like-minded majority and not let minorities always run us over.
	Right?
	And another thing we need to change in Canada as well is the DEI laws, diversity, equity, inclusion laws, where basically white people might as well not even apply for a job if it's a government job because they're going to hire other people ahead of us.
	And that's wrong.
	So equal rights for whites should be a pretty good thing to bring in as well as a policy.
	And hopefully people will look at what I'm trying to do and there might be an off chance that they might dig a little deeper and see the wizard behind the curtain.
	But at the very least, they're going to see that something isn't quite the way they thought it was in Canada.
	A lot of people don't know that we don't have the freedoms that we don't have.
	Yeah, I like that.
	Law to protect the majority.
	Because this is something that we see in all of Western countries, that a mistake that's been made, where we have all of these laws protecting minorities, so much so that they end up becoming the majority.
	And now we are the minority, both demographically, in some cases, and also socially, big time, when it comes to what kind of a say we have in things politically, media-wise, whatever the case may be.
	And, you know, as far as I know, I don't think there's a single Western country that has a law protecting white people, specifically.
	I don't think it exists.
	I don't think a federal law is out there that protects our people.
	But there's definitely a law in every Western country to protect Jews and to protect blacks and all these other groups, which yet again, that's something that really needs to change.
	And, you know, to break this, this social stigma around, you know, race.
	Racism broadly, as they'll deem it, is something that really needs to be fixed because we have a lot of our own people that get themselves stuck in this boat of, yet again, oh, well, I don't want to pass a law for white people because I don't want to be deemed racist, right?
	I mean, we have to really break down this mindset because racial relations are becoming worse in all of our countries at this time.
	Especially if you are a white person.
	I know many people in my personal life that are heavily overqualified for very certain positions.
	And no matter where they apply, no matter how hard they try, they just don't seem to get it.
	And it can't be organic.
	I mean, these are people with like 20 years experience in a very specific field that have always had a good record, no criminal background.
	And somehow they apply at like 12 different places and don't get a single word back.
	It really goes to show.
	So moving forward and talking about your political platform some more, what are some...
	Really solid main points that you want to focus on with your platform.
	Let's say you're doing a campaign.
	Trump's campaign is MAGA.
	I'm going to make America great again.
	That can be whatever he deems that to be.
	Maybe making it more Jewish is making it great again to him.
	Make America and Israel again.
	Right, yes.
	What are some primary points that you want to emphasize on your platform with your campaign?
	That you think would get people on board with your cause?
	Obviously, you talked about finance a little bit, but beyond that, what are some solid things that you think the average person would hear and go, you know what?
	That Leslie guy, he seems like he's on the right path.
	I think I like that guy.
	Before we get into that, maybe one more policy that I'd like that we should talk about.
	And it's part of what you just asked anyhow, but this is kind of like off to the side, but it's pretty important.
	We can make Canada a sanctuary nation for people in endangered races, you know, from endangered races.
	And right now, the white race is endangered.
	We're only about, what, about 8 or 10% of the world's population.
	And we're in decline right now.
	So I think if we made Canada a sanctuary nation for white people, that would be good as well.
	Not a white supremacist nation, but just a nation where whites can have equal rights and come here and feel safe.
	You know, we won't have to...
	Worry about dealing with these crazy studies in universities and things like that, too, that want to paint us as being a bunch of bad guys.
	What is it?
	I forget what it's called now.
	You know, those laws, those teachings they teach the kids in school, things like that.
	Critical race theory, that thing.
	We don't want that here.
	That's just insane.
	But some of the meat and potatoes things that you're asking about.
	Making the price of gas 50 cents a liter, which is like a couple bucks American for a gallon of gas.
	That wouldn't be too bad.
	I think people would like that to help with our economic recovery.
	Seniors could get a working wage pension if we print our own currency, right?
	They could make 20 bucks an hour in their retirement, so that's $800 a week tax-free.
	That would almost triple what they're making now, you know, as seniors having pensions.
	Basically, there's a lot of things that we can do.
	Like how about no auto insurance as well?
	Like how we can have public auto insurance that's backed by the labor of the people that administer the insurance departments in Canada in the future.
	Because always the auto insurance is a big scam in Canada.
	You know, and prices, they raise prices and they make up the reasons just like they make up the reasons to raise prices on other things as well.
	So these things are going to benefit the Canadian public quite nicely.
	And everything I do is pretty much an economic measure to change our nation, to make it easier to live in our country.
	I focus heavily on the economy to try and, like I said, to make this a more livable country for the workers of Canada.
	And what we need is a good...
	I don't like to use the term left-wing and right-wing too much of those terms, but...
	For the regular person, the new person, say, that would come here to watch this show, basically what I'm trying to do is develop a right-wing Labour Party, we'll call it.
	And I think that would help to unify the nation as well by just basically taking over the entire political spectrum with one party.
	It'll be a one-party system because people will voluntarily hopefully choose to pick our party to lead the nation.
	So that's what I intend to do.
	And I think that's the way to go in Canada.
	We can bring back our manufacturing and back our currency with labour.
	We value labour so much that we'll back our currency with it.
	That's a pretty good thing and I hope we're a good example to the world in the future and then the world will change without any kind of coercion.
	It'll just be a free will kind of thing.
	We'll see how that works out.
	Of course, they're going to have to defeat their local governments because their governments are definitely going to oppose any measures that I bring into Canada.
	Because that doesn't go with the New World Order's modus of operation, right?
	Basically, they want to take over the whole world, print one currency for the entire world, and that means that one group of people are going to be the boss of the entire world, the people that print that money.
	And we're opposing that.
	And nationalists in every country, I believe, are opposing that as well.
	On behalf of their own people, not on behalf of any kind of an international movement for a one-world government, but the nationalists are...
	Supporting each other in other countries and wishing each other very well to settle affairs in their own houses.
	We don't want to run the whole world.
	We just want to have our own countries under our own control.
	That's what we're trying to accomplish here.
	Yeah.
	One thing I want to discuss with you as well that is important for people to hear your perspective on is...
	Foreign policy, immigration, things of this nature.
	How do you view an immigration policy under your presidency?
	What would you deem an adequate immigration policy?
	And then additionally, looking at foreign policy, are your relations with other nations?
	Are there any nations that you think Canada should be allied with?
	Any nations that you are allied with that you think should be?
	Removed from the allyship.
	So foreign policy and immigration policy, I'd like to hear your take on both of these.
	Well, immigration policy, you might as well call it the emigration policy or the remigration policy.
	We're going to be, like, as a target, just, you know, I'd like to accomplish a million deportations a year, you know, and not just, honestly, I believe exile should be something that we talk about in Canada as well.
	Not just deporting people that came here from other countries, but exiling people that are born here that don't want to be team players.
	We don't want to have a bunch of say in them here, and we don't want to have a bunch of, we'll call it just non-Jewish people that are going to be Zionists in Canada.
	We don't want that here.
	It's too dangerous.
	These people are just destroying Palestine, and they back the...
	The vaccine mandates and things like this, we don't want to have that in Canada.
	It's just far too dangerous.
	We want to have the face of humanity living in Canada, and we don't want to have the type of people here that are going to race bait and put people against each other.
	We want to promote good manners without having to legalize it or legislate it.
	We don't need to have speech laws, but we should have in place a public...
	A public campaign, basically, to promote good manners amongst people.
	I can't think of the word, basically, but, you know, like a public service announcement every once in a while in the news, you know, or, you know, every other day or something like that.
	Just, you know, tell people that, you know, we're all human beings and, you know, if we should just get along and try and be decent, you know, I mean, that'll take us a long way.
	I'm not trying to promote Marxism here, which is...
	The politics of division.
	And we don't want that, you know, amongst our people.
	But definitely, we definitely need to deport a lot of people from Canada.
	Now, internationally, who are we going to play with?
	Anybody who wants to do trade with us, but they're probably not going to want to take our currency.
	Because, you know, obviously they can't spend it amongst their friends.
	The world's not going to allow it.
	We learned that happened in Germany as well, right, where they couldn't trade their currency.
	So we're going to have to trade goods for goods from Canada to other countries.
	I see that's how trade is going to be done.
	It's going to be goods for goods, and that'll eliminate any trade deficits when you think about it.
	Or it could, because if you're trading, like, you know, fair trade every time a ship pulls in and leaves, I mean, basically there's no trade deficit at that point.
	You traded something of equal value.
	And you're basically going to enjoy the products from other countries without having to worry about them sucking you dry.
	The United States of America is our good friend, despite the record of the government there, basically being an imperialist nation.
	We know that the heart of the American people isn't with their government.
	And I'd like to always speak beyond the government when I address the people of America.
	And speak directly to them, because there's no real point in speaking to Mr. Trump or anyone else that's going to come after him until a real American gets in there.
	Because basically all I'm talking to is the head of Israel, basically, at that point.
	So the American people are always going to be dear to Canadians, I would think, and I'm going to promote that as well.
	I'll set the tone for the nation if I'm the Prime Minister or the President, because I'd like to make Canada a republic.
	And sever all of our ties to the monarchy.
	I know that legally they claim that our ties have been severed already.
	But we still subscribe to the British Accreditation Registry, the Bar Association, and the Crown Temple.
	And in the future, we're not going to subscribe to those institutions any longer.
	We're going to be our own show in Canada.
	So I hope that the American people keep an eye on what's going on in Canada.
	I hope they pressure their government.
	To change, to be more like us in the future if we succeed in bringing in these new policies.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Another large topic that's equally as important, I would say, is media in the country.
	And this means social media, the news media, press, things like this.
	Obviously, we know that pornography has become a very big problem in the media.
	Propaganda is a big problem in the media, whether it's interracial commercials or pro-Israel advertisements or whatever you want to deem problematic, which there's a lot of it.
	What is your policy on media?
	Are there things that you would want to restrict or ban?
	Are there ways around stopping some of these very poisonous things from pushing themselves into the media?
	What would your policy on media be?
	How would you handle some of these problematic things that are spawning like wildfire all over the internet today?
	How would you kind of tack this down a little bit and put some control on some of these things?
	Well, I'd nationalize the entire corporate media because they were the ones that terrorized our people and lied to our people during the COVID.
	And even before that, when they lied about banking, they used to say that...
	People's savings was lent out when it's not lent out, you know, things like this, right?
	And that's why people think that you need to charge interest because there's some sort of a risk to their savings when that's a complete lie.
	So we're going to get rid of that corporate media and we're going to install basically a state-run media when it comes to some of the bigger media players like those entities, right?
	We'll fill the gap.
	With some kind of a message from me as the Prime Minister, and I'll set the tone for the country this way.
	We're going to allow people to speak their minds, and I just want to make sure that I have the people's ear as a leader in Canada.
	And what I think we should do is allow people to replace the corporate media themselves.
	You know, as entrepreneurs and we'll put people on television again.
	Something we haven't seen for a long time.
	We'll put regular Canadians on TV that have smaller media empires, we'll call it.
	And maybe someday, you know, you'll be on Canadian TV too, Zach.
	You know, you'll have your own show on a Canadian television network.
	You never know.
	Or not on a network, but you'll have your own show, your own place.
	You'll be your own man.
	You know, collect your own revenue from advertising if we allow advertising or whatever.
	You know what I mean?
	So we'll see how that goes.
	But basically what we need to do is allow people to speak their minds and question anything that I do as a Prime Minister.
	And people need to hear those voices.
	So I'll definitely give people a place to speak out, to ask me questions and to criticize or to compliment their government or to offer suggestions, to spread news as they see it, you know, as they understand it to be like honest news.
	So we're going to let the smaller people basically take over from where the corporate people failed.
	And the corporate people more than failed us, they targeted us.
	And that's not right.
	And they're acting on behalf of the New World Order, which is completely wrong.
	They're more than just traitors.
	They try to genocide our country.
	And that's worse than treason.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, speaking about...
	Corporate people and corporations, this is also a very big issue that has created itself.
	I mean, let's look at COVID just as an example here.
	These massive corporations were deemed essential by the government, so they were allowed to stay open while all of your mom-and-pop shops and these little brick-and-mortar stores were basically deemed inessential, and a lot of them went out of business.
	I mean, I know...
	Personal people in my local area that they went out of business during this event because the store hours that they were relegated to or the restrictions on how many customers they could have.
	All of these things which I think you and I both would deem intentional to ensure that they could get these companies to collapse and put basically a wealth transfer from the common man into these massive corporations.
	How do you plan to combat?
	Some of these massive corporations that have become so far-reaching, whether it's the pharmaceutical companies or these big stock exchanges like Vanguard and BlackRock, these investment companies, things like this.
	How do you plan to put some restrictions on this just unending, corrupt, usurious practices that these people go about?
	Because one of the problems is...
	Let's look at America.
	One of our government's ways to combat these big pharmaceutical companies is, oh, well, we put them on a big lawsuit because they did something really bad that harmed the populace.
	charge them $3 billion.
	Well, Pfizer makes 80 billion, so the 3 billion doesn't really mean much.
	They pay the fee and they just keep doing their corrupt practice and maintain their unethical ways.
	So how do we stop this in an actual way?
	Well, you're going to have to elect someone like me to run your country then.
	And then shortly after, I become the leader.
	These people aren't going to be free any longer.
	And they won't be free to harm us any longer.
	And no amount of money in the world is going to get them out of trouble, put it that way.
	So that's what you need.
	You need honest representation, Zach, with someone with a good plan and good intentions for the country.
	And that will take you a long way, Zach, because it's the opposite of what we have today.
	That's what I plan on doing.
	Now, when it comes to giving people back their market share, it's going to be hard to do that.
	But one thing we can do, because if they've gone out of business, basically they're probably off the business map right now, these people.
	If you had a small store somewhere about five years ago and you had to shut it down, chances are you're not in a position to even think of opening a store again because you're probably so impoverished now that you're lucky to have a place to live.
	So it's going to be hard to make up for that in the future.
	But what we can do to...
	Encourage new businesses to open, and we're talking about retail now, is to make a law where the big suppliers have to maybe, with their buying power, give the smaller fellows the products that they sell at the same cost, right?
	So an item at Walmart will cost the same as an item in a small store now, and the small store can still make a profit off of it.
	You know, we'll see if we can make something like that happen, where the price points aren't always better at the big box stores than they would be at the downtown store that we used to have in the 60s and 70s.
	We used to have a lot of small shoe stores and, you know, small stores of every sort.
	We used to have dairies in every town, but we don't even have dairies in every town anymore.
	That's not good.
	You definitely want to diversify your food industry.
	There's a big difference between diversifying your culture and diversifying manufacturing.
	You know what I mean?
	One makes you weaker, one makes you stronger.
	And diversifying your culture makes you much weaker.
	But diversifying your manufacturing base and your retail base makes you so much stronger.
	That way, when one corporation pulls the plug, the ripples aren't as large, you know, because you'll have other small stores to buffer the chaos that comes from that big closure.
	Yeah, it's not rocket science to fix things.
	We just have to go back to the way things were in the past.
	And we can do that.
	Yeah, I really like your explanation of making these corporations either have to charge more for their product or kind of creating this offset where there's almost a price flooring for a corporation to have the same product as a small mom and pop shop.
	You could still go to your Walmart, but you're not crazily incentivized to go to Walmart like people are today.
	Most people just go to Walmart because, oh, it's $2 for something that I get somewhere else for $8.
	And they're looking at the cheapest possible options so they can save their money for the alcohol on the weekends or whatever other dumb stuff they want to do.
	We talked about this concept not long ago of...
	Organic and inorganic foods.
	This is a really big thing, and I don't know if it's the same.
	I would assume it's the same in Canada, but in America, if you go to a grocery store and you want to get a head of lettuce and then an organic head of lettuce, an organic head is like three times the price.
	And it's not filled with preservatives and all the other stuff they put onto it, but yet somehow it's way more expensive.
	And what I think would make sense is to take all of these foods that are...
	Poison foods that have chemicals in them and all these other GMOs, bioengineered food ingredients, all this nonsense that they're throwing into our food now, the seed oils.
	And actually put, yet again, like with the corporations, put a price flooring on it so that you want to buy junk food that has chemicals in it?
	Sure, you're free to do that, but it's going to cost you a hell of a lot more than buying something healthy.
	We're de-incentivizing being healthy.
	And we're incentivizing being unhealthy.
	I think that's a big problem.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, eventually I'd like to get rid of all the pesticide type foods and the GMO foods, right?
	I think that's the end game so that we'll only have the naturally grown organic type foods in Canada.
	That's what I plan on doing.
	I grow my own.
	I don't grow my own food, but I grow some of my own food in the summertime.
	Tomatoes and peppers, which I really enjoy.
	It's amazing how much different they taste as well from what you buy in the stores.
	It shouldn't be like that.
	Like it should be the same thing, right?
	I know someone that knows someone that went to Italy and they bought food off the shelf there and all their food is naturally grown, every bit of it.
	And that's what we want to have in Canada.
	And they said that the taste was so much better.
	You know, it's like right out of your garden.
	And that's what I see in the future here.
	I don't think I'd want to raise the price of food right now for anybody, even the worst poison food that there is.
	I think it would do more harm than good right now because no one can even afford the crap.
	So I don't want to do any more harm to the public.
	I think the day will come where I become the leader of this country.
	Let's hope it happens.
	But when that happens, people...
	We'll have financial relief right away, and I don't want to add to their misery at all.
	Now, the only thing that's going to go up in price will be a voluntary tax when it comes time for people to buy a Canadian made good, because they're going to pay the Canadian price then.
	But remember, there won't be any more taxation of any sort, no more property tax, there won't be any more auto insurance to pay, there won't be...
	The price of gas will be a lot cheaper as well, so the food prices will drop because of that as well, right across the board.
	We're not going to be paying interest rates on loans anymore, so houses will be cheaper to buy, and everybody's cost of doing business is going to go down as well.
	So, you know, people paying a bit more for a manufactured good in Canada that they only have to buy once every five or ten years if it's, you know, a big item good, shouldn't be a big deal for them to absorb that at that point.
	But everything else in Canada is going to go down in price.
	And that's how I see bringing relief to the public.
	And in time, we'll have good food here again.
	And we're going to stop the chemtrailing as well.
	No more chem spraying from the air.
	It's ruining our farmland.
	There's too much aluminum going into the soil now.
	I heard that they're actually creating genetically modified organisms that grow well in aluminum.
	Right?
	So, yeah.
	No.
	We don't want that here, so we're going to shut that down as well.
	We'll have better military to back that up as well.
	Don't worry about this bullshit with this Mickey Mouse military that we have now.
	I agree with all that laid out.
	To move on to one more really hot ticket item that I'm sure a lot of people want to know about, that would be education.
	The educational system, as you know today, as you mentioned earlier, people are learning critical race theory.
	They got mandatory Holocaust learning, different things like this.
	How do you plan on fixing up the education system, giving people a better education?
	How would you like to educate the populace and what would you like to see them learning about rather than what they're learning today?
	Well, the most important thing they can learn is basically what communism looks like.
	And they can learn to recognize the red flags of communism.
	So if they have, you know, anti-Semitism laws or if they have interest charging banks, you know, police that enforce speech laws and things like that, they'll know that they've got communism at that point.
	It's a pretty simple deal.
	So that's number one, believe it or not.
	That's more important than reading and writing, to tell you the truth.
	Now, after that, yeah, obviously we're going to teach people to read and write, do some math, some science.
	You know, we're going to bring things back to a level that we haven't seen since maybe the beginning of the last century.
	People had much better vocabularies back in the day, you know, and yeah, myself included, you know.
	So I think that we should educate the public on the basics and all those things that we're teaching kids now in school.
	Critical race theory, we're not going to teach that any longer.
	World War II history is going to look a little bit different if I become Prime Minister.
	Also, you know, we're just going to teach people to get along.
	There's going to be no more of that sex stuff taught to those little kids in school anymore either.
	We're not going to be grooming our children to be victims of pedophiles.
	And there's going to be no more drag queens reading stories to our children.
	Wow.
	That's, yeah.
	I'll just have to take a moment on that one.
	Yeah, I mean, it's mind-blowing to think that we've even come to a point where people accept those things.
	I mean, when I see a video online of some father with his three-year-old son at a drag queen story hour, I can't understand how a human being could put their child in a circumstance like that.
	It's just insane to me.
	So I think I've covered most of the areas that I had in mind to bring up about your platform and kind of things that you would like to touch on.
	So is there anything that you specifically want to mention that you think is crucial with your program or your platform moving forward that you think people should know about?
	Something that kind of hits on some serious importance.
	Well, we're going to reduce the price of homes once I become Prime Minister by a lot, like by hundreds of percents.
	Like I said before, a $600,000 home might only cost $100,000 in the future.
	We're going to bring back the 1990s levels.
	And even then, to me, they were a little bit expensive back in the day.
	We're going to reduce the cost of living for people in Canada.
	They're going to have more freedom.
	They're going to have better gun rights.
	I think our gun rights might make Americans envious in the future.
	We'll see how that is.
	So we'll see what we can do.
	I believe that with competence should come privilege.
	So if people take a safety course and they know how to use firearms, then they should have them.
	I'm not afraid of my people.
	I want them to have things that will help to keep us free from bad governments in the future.
	But they need to be trained how to use these things safely.
	And I can see maybe having some kind of...
	A loose kind of militia in Canada as well where we're not going to take up too much time with the public, but basically get a few of the people to come in and learn a couple of skills from the military, a couple of basic things, maybe a few basic maneuvers and things like that and how to shoot.
	And people like that might have enhanced gun rights in the future where they might have a little extra something in their closet in case there's a problem in our country.
	So people are going to need some heavier weapons.
	If they're going to be trusted to defend us in the future, just at the arm's reach of the military kind of thing, where they're not really in the military, but they're quite willing to help out when things happen.
	And that's what we need to instill in people's minds, is the sense that we're not alone in this world, and there's a lot of bad people out there.
	And when we start living well, like they did in Germany, of course people are going to start monkeying around with us.
	You're going to probably notice if I take over, there'll probably be a lot of protests in the streets from...
	A few smaller groups and they'll try to make it look like it's a popular uprising when it won't be.
	So we have to inform people about what to expect and what happened in the past.
	We don't want to recreate the magic that happened in Bolshevik Russia by reacting in a bad way with our public or with the agents that are sent here to do us harm.
	We have to handle it in a certain way.
	But it'll be helpful if the people are well informed at that point and recognize the signs of infiltration.
	Right?
	This is one of those things.
	This is why in those third world, we call them countries, mostly in Arabia, you hear about their brutal secret police.
	Well, there's a reason why they're the way that they are.
	It's because they have to guard against weasels in their country trying to, you know, undermine their people's wishes, I would think, right?
	So a well-informed public is the first line of defense in Canada and anywhere else as well.
	National defense starts with a well-informed public.
	There's no doubt about this in every way, economically, socially.
	You know, another thing we won't allow in schools is for them to have litter boxes for the children to use to go to the washroom in.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm not talking some rural place that has an outhouse.
	I'm talking like, you know, this is a regular thing where a child can identify as a cat.
	I mean, wow, I'm not going to say anything.
	I'm like, you know, I can just imagine what I would consider to be a good punishment for people that allow this.
	Right?
	But we're not going to talk about that right now.
	But basically, I think the public is, you know, not too happy with the way things are going in the schools right now.
	It's just, it's beyond insane.
	Yeah, and I think that's one thing we do have on our side is these things are so insane that it's impossible for people with a normal mind to look at that and say, look, I want that to continue.
	The average person is definitely, even if they're lukewarm about it, they're at least in the mindset of this is wrong and it should stop.
	And once they see an adequate effort against these things, I think we'll be able to see a big influx of people supporting our cause and kind of what we have in mind.
	And I really hope that you're able to pull some serious...
	Traction in Canada and get yourself to the goals that you have because you have some very solid and noble goals that I think are of the utmost importance to be achieved for the Canadian people.
	And I hope to see that also replicated here because we need it here as well.
	Before we kind of maybe go to some conclusions and things like that, I want to give you an opportunity to promote all of your...
	Different platforms that you have.
	Where can people support you, whether financially, socially?
	How can people find you, bring up more information about your campaign and things of that nature?
	What are some places that people can help support you and check you out?
	Well, right now, I don't have any platforms up that I'm in control of because I just finished going through this legal process.
	I've taken everything down that I could.
	Off the internet.
	I'm just going to start over again with a different approach on things.
	So there are no platforms that I'm in control of.
	Although on YouTube, there's still a Brantford News site there that has some of my old videos on it.
	Some people mirrored my images, my videos on BitChute.
	But myself, I have nothing up because I don't want any more liabilities regarding this right now.
	And in the future, I'm just going to...
	Like I said, address the symptoms.
	And I think a lot of other people out there are taking the lead when it comes to, you know, naming the wizard.
	So that's pretty good.
	So I don't have to do that.
	And people can look at my list of convictions and get a good idea what my convictions are in life anyway, by, you know, what I've been convicted of, even though I think some of these are misleading.
	Like my lawyer told me that three of the four convictions were...
	Improper.
	So when we appeal this, I'm hoping to hopefully get three of the four convictions taken off my record.
	But it's what it is, you know.
	You have to own your own mistakes or your own accomplishments or whatever you want to call them.
	Basically, so whatever I've done, I've done.
	I've said what I've said.
	And I said it for the betterment of the Canadian people and the people all over the world.
	I didn't try to do this to...
	Benefit monetarily.
	And I knew that I was walking into a big trap when I started this awareness program, but I knew that someone had to trigger the trap and that had to be me if I want to be known as a leader with some courage.
	So I didn't just hide behind a bunch of skirts.
	I actually went ahead and did what I thought was the role that I should take.
	This time in history when our country is under attack and we've already taken losses, human beings have died in our country because of these vaccines and because of these measures that these people have taken during this paramilitary, psychological, chemical warfare operation called the coronavirus pandemic, right?
	So I did what I could do.
	I didn't hurt a single person despite the victim statements during my sentencing where they all, you know...
	Even the judge said, I heard every Canadian or something to that effect.
	I just spoke at a place a couple weeks ago where the people in the audience were living proof that the judge was wrong.
	They were Canadians and they were appreciating the fact that I stood up and spoke my mind and tried to lead us out of this in a non-violent way, believe it or not, despite what my words might have indicated to people.
	There was no intent to commit any violent act.
	Yeah.
	Well, I would venture to argue that more than three of your convictions were improper.
	And I agree with you that we got to go back to this concept of sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
	Where did that phrase go?
	That was such a fundamental phrase 15 years ago.
	Now you don't hear it anymore.
	And everybody's so...
	Hurt by words.
	You're hurting the Canadian people with your words.
	It's just absurd.
	It's so ridiculous.
	Yeah, we're not supposed to be a bunch of wimps.
	We're supposed to be a bunch of kind-hearted, thinking people.
	But generally, we don't go around insulting each other all the time either.
	It's one of those things.
	We are decent people.
	We only really need these hate speech laws.
	They're just countermeasures to protect the wizard.
	That's all.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	With that said, I want to maybe go to some conclusions here and allow you to kind of say any final thoughts you have and kind of say your way out.
	And we'll move on from there.
	I would love to have you on again.
	This was a very nice conversation and it was a pleasure to speak with you one-on-one because I only got to ask you a couple questions the last time that we spoke.
	And, you know, when you're talking about something of this magnitude, there's just...
	So many categories to touch on.
	We could always have a show that's a little more defined and has a very specific what will go on this piece or that piece.
	But I wanted to make this one a little more broad and give the audience just a general understanding and assessment of who you are and where you stand on things.
	So with that said, go ahead and give us some final thoughts from Leslie Borey.
	Oh, you're a really good man, Zach.
	I'll be glad to be on your show anytime you want me to have me on here.
	It's a pleasure to be on your show.
	I don't have a whole lot to say.
	I mean, I don't mind answering questions and things like this.
	But basically, I just want people to keep their head up.
	Don't allow yourself to be black-pilled.
	We're going to win.
	All right?
	We've got more people than they do.
	We've got a lot of good-hearted people and good, decent people that are trying to steer us in the right direction here as well.
	So, you know, just find the right people to follow.
	It's not easy.
	There are a lot of Judas goats out there.
	We're going to tell you the truth about 90% of the time, and then that last 10% is a bad turn that they're going to take you on, so careful with that one.
	But basically, try and educate yourselves, and once you learn a thing or two, don't be afraid to share it with others if you can find a way that's not going to repel them.
	I mean, I've done it myself where I've just come out and dumped information on people, but sometimes just holding back a little bit, planting a little seed might get you further than trying to serve them the whole buffet at one time.
	Yeah, very well said.
	And it's definitely something that we need to work on in our scenes.
	Got a lot of people that are black-pilled and miserable.
	Don't give up.
	Don't give up.
	Yeah, we need optimism big time.
	I mean, what isn't there to be optimistic about?
	I mean, think about how much things have changed just in the last three years.
	If you were to try to talk about any of these subjects three years ago, you would be flagged off as a lunatic and completely ignored.
	And now, I mean, everybody's talking about it, right?
	I think things are going great.
	On election day, I couldn't campaign, but I was on my way to the store to buy something.
	And so I took a little walk and I ran into a couple of workers and they told me about the Kazarians.
	There you go.
	So that was amazing.
	And like I said before, more and more often I hear from other people that they know that banks print money out of thin air.
	But that's not the evil in it.
	It's the interest rates of the evil.
	And the fact that private banks print our money out of thin air when it should be the government doing it, backing it with labor, right?
	So that's, you know, the labor of the civil service comes before the printing of money for the civil service.
	But when it comes to lending money to people, the money will be printed before their labor pays it back without interest.
	And that's how that's going to work in the future.
	We'll never sell people money for more than it's worth.
	And that's what every politician in America and Canada does right now.
	Basically, if these people like Donald Trump or Mark Carney ran on the platform that said, I'm going to sell the Canadian public $20 bills for $40, I don't think they would have got elected.
	That's exactly what they're doing.
	Yeah, that's well said.
	Well, with that said, I think we'll close up here.
	And I want to thank you again for coming on.
	This was a very nice introductory chat to give my audience a little bit more understanding about you.
	And I highly encourage that you guys check out anything else that he's done in the past.
	He's got some interesting videos that are up and out there.
	Things that he's been arrested for.
	So if that's not interesting, I don't know what is.
	And I thank you again.
	And folks, don't forget also to make sure that you're following me on all my separate platforms.
	Twitter's the big one.
	LogosRevealedI on Twitter.
	There's a little bio.site link inside of my description there.
	You can click on that.
	That'll bring you to all my other platforms.
	Follow, share my stuff around.
	If you want to financially support me, there's options in there as well.
	It's always all greatly appreciated.
	With that said, thank you, folks.
	I will see you guys on Wednesday.
	We have a show at 4 p.m. Eastern.
	We're going to be joined by Aiden from the Asatru Folk Assembly.
	He was supposed to join us on Friday, but Rumble was down on Friday, so we couldn't do the show.
	So we'll be live on Wednesday at 4 p.m. Eastern.
	We'll see you guys then.
	Thank you again, folks.
	And thank you, Leslie, as well.
	So have a good night, everybody.
	Thank you, Zach.

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