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May 9, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Big Pharma vs Big Food: MAHA Divided Over Surgeon General
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Welcome to the show.
Thanks so much for being with us.
This is the Millstone Report.
Happy Friday to everybody out there.
I hope you're doing well.
I hope you're excited about the weekend.
I know I am.
We've got a lot to get to today.
It's one of those episodes.
It's kind of every episode now.
I hope we have enough time to get to it all and I don't just ramble.
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Yesterday on the program, we talked to Charles Haywood yesterday on the show, and then the last half of the show, we...
Kind of focused on the Maha agenda and, you know, what appears to be some rifts forming with people who were on board in 2024 when it came to basically forging ahead and creating a brand new political coalition.
Very exciting times, you know, seeing RFK endorse Trump and, you know, him becoming HHS secretary.
A lot of, you know, really positive things.
But this replacement appointment, and don't get me wrong, the Neshwit lady was no good.
I think that's just, in the Maha movement, it's just universally understood that the Neshwit lady for Surgeon General was a no-go.
Now we've got Casey Means, who's been nominated, and this has sparked some controversy online.
There's some people, as we told you yesterday, some people think this is a great pick.
Other people don't think it's a very good pick.
And I'm just kind of here to report on, I guess, the divide and kind of show you where different people are coming from.
But the way that I can conceptualize it, and I did this yesterday, but to me it just seems like big pharma is protecting their interests, as you would expect them to do, and they're willing to throw big food under the bus to do it.
So, we can talk about just generally how the health of Americans is terrible for a variety of reasons, but you can't blame it all on sugary cereal and the dyes in our food.
You can blame a lot of it on that.
Certainly you can, you know, and we've talked about before how there is a...
A pipeline here.
Because, I mean, if the food dies, let's just say, for example, the food dies cause something like ADHD, well, that sends kids and parents running into the arms of big pharma, putting them on drugs they don't need to be on for a disease that, you know, many people think can be solved by just allowing kids to be kids and run around and play outside.
And that's just one avenue of it, let alone the fact the food dies that, you know, are cancer-causing agents and we're finding all this out.
And it is extremely positive, in my opinion, that food dyes are getting out of food.
I mean, that's one of the reasons why I voted for Trump.
I hate having to walk through the minefield of a grocery store knowing that there's so much toxin, there's so many poisons.
I think very much when RFK Jr. actually endorsed Trump, that activated the crunchy moms in the suburbs.
It was a very, very good thing.
I say all that to say, you know, there are good things happening.
And I like a Casey Means.
I like her stance on the food and how terrible it is.
But what about Big Pharma?
Where do they have a role in making Americans sick?
And I think this is the sticking point.
And you can't really get around this issue without talking about the vaccines, specifically the COVID shot.
As to why is that still on the childhood schedule?
And so I think the Maha criticism, the divide, is we want people in there that are going to go after in a comprehensive way.
And I know RFK, it's what he said last night in Brett Baird, that's what they claim they're doing.
And there are people out in the movement that I think are very entitled to be as critical as they want about going further.
Making sure you actually cut the head off the snake.
And if you're going to protect Big Pharma, obviously that's not taking the head off of the snake.
So anyway, Brett Baer, to his credit, asked RFK Jr. last night about this controversial pick, Casey Means.
And again, controversial.
Some people love it.
Some people don't love it.
Let's take a listen to this.
I'll pipe this in.
This was a tweet from Laura Loomer.
She says, Wow, Robert Kennedy was just asked about his former running mate Nicole Shanahan's comment.
So Nicole Shanahan has been very critical.
We covered that tweet yesterday of this Casey Means pick.
Nicole Shanahan says she was assured that none of the Means siblings would be in government.
And, of course, that's not the case.
I believe Cali Means is...
In some sort of advisory capacity with an HHS, and now Casey looks like she's going to be the next Surgeon General.
Here is Brett Baer from last night.
On my watch.
The Surgeon General nominee was supposed to be at a hearing today on Capitol Hill.
Dr. Neshwat was pulled.
She's heading here to the HHS.
What happened with all that?
What happened with her withdrawal?
We talked to Dr. Neshwad.
We're going to put her at a very good place here at HHS.
Casey Means, we felt, was the best person to really bring the vision of Maha to the American public.
She has this unique capacity to articulate it.
She's written a book that really mobilized, galvanized the movement.
She is an extraordinary...
She is excellence in everything that she's ever done.
Obviously, she's come under her own criticism about some of the things she's advocated for.
She never finished her residency, and she doesn't currently have an active medical license.
That's not...
She was the very top of her medical class at Stanford.
During her residency, she won every award that she could win.
She walked away from traditional medicine because she was not curing patients.
She couldn't get anybody within her profession to look at the nutrition contributions to illness.
And she said if we're really going to heal people, if we're healers, we can't just be making our life about billing new procedures.
We actually have to figure out new approaches to medicine.
And that's the kind of leadership that she's going to bring to our country.
And last thing on this, your former running mate weighed in today saying that she wasn't happy about this and said that you're somehow being controlled.
Your decisions are being controlled.
That's what she posted.
Listen, you guys sitting here, four people who were all canceled during COVID.
Yeah, right.
Of these people, you know, the entire leadership of this agency is renegades who are, you know, who are juggernauts against convention and who are trying to look for truth no matter what the cost.
So nobody's controlling your decision.
Okay, so, I mean, I don't know about, was Dr. Oz canceled during COVID?
That's news to me.
If I was Robert, I'd be like, don't touch me.
Don't touch me, Dr. Oz.
Now, Bottichara certainly, I mean, Kennedy was very much maligned and canceled.
Bottichara was.
Bottichara has actually, he's in there, and he's actually called for the COVID shot to be taken off the market.
Okay, so that is certainly a positive sign.
We're not going to, I'm not going to suggest otherwise.
Here's Nicole Shanahan.
She went on the Glenn Beck show, I think, yesterday.
She writes, when frontline doctors who gave up their careers, their licenses, and their livelihoods to stand against tyranny during COVID come to me with serious concerns, I listen.
So a lot of this is people kind of conveying, according to this, they're kind of being a sounding board for those doctors in the Maha field, in the Maha movement, saying, I think we need to do better.
I think we need to do more.
I think we need to go after the whole enchilada, cut the head off the snake.
And again, I feel like we're going to put more emphasis.
And we need to put plenty of emphasis on the pesticides in our food, the way it's grown, processed food.
You need to certainly do that.
But if that's all you do, and you don't actually talk about the medical-industrial complex, and you don't hold them accountable as well, We're just going to be right back where we were as soon as you get a new administration.
She says, I know this nomination is likely to move forward regardless,
Casey Means, but I'm also not going to sit idly by and say nothing.
People deserve to know concerns were raised.
Then we'll judge for themselves based on the information available and the outcomes that follow.
So yeah, we'll see what the outcomes are going to be.
Now, Callie Means, the brother of Casey Means, has rushed to her sister's defense among some criticism, again, within the Maha movement.
There are conservative influencers who think this appointment is fantastic.
And Casey Means, again, has said some very, I think, powerful things and has critiqued the industries in a big way.
But what about big pharma?
What about vaccines?
I think this is obviously the big sticking point.
But Callie Means is now saying that Laura Loomer, Callie Means comes out and attacks Laura Loomer, just received information that Laura Loomer is taking money from industry to scuttle President Trump's agenda.
Laura Loomer, if that's correct, sue me and let's do discovery.
So, that's a bold claim.
You know, a couple of weeks ago, back when we had the news that Robert Kennedy, they were going to...
I guess discontinue SNAP benefits food stamps from buying things like candy and soda and that sort of thing.
And then there was kind of a busted influencer campaign.
You know, there are these companies that will reach out to people to, hey, if you'll talk about this or if you'll tweet about this, then we'll pay you money.
I will just say...
For the record, that's never happened to me.
I've never participated in anything like that.
Of course, I don't have a giant social media following anyway, so I don't think it ever would.
And on this issue, as I'm covering it and expressing my skepticism or other people's skepticism of Casey Means, I'll just say no one is paying me to take this opinion just for full disclosure.
But that's a bold claim.
Laura Loomer responds to this.
She says, Let me click on this a little bit more.
She says, So it's getting pretty spicy out there.
And then we have Cowley Means responding to Nicole Shanahan.
It says, it's been revealed to me that Nicole Shanahan is collaborating with influencers to sink Casey's nomination as Surgeon General and imply we aren't loyal to President Trump.
The only substantive conversation I've had with Nicole was the day Bobby Kennedy endorsed President Trump, something Casey and I worked tirelessly to make successful.
He says, Nicole was saying she refused to endorse the president and I called her and her husband to say that that was destructive to cause of children's health, that President Trump is a unique figure who has the courage to stand up to corrupt interests and the endorsement would change the world.
It goes on, Nicole has never met Casey and...
Lavishly praised her up till several months ago.
Her criticism of Casey and the oppo research she has given to social media influencers does not contain...
Nobody's given me any oppo research.
we're clear, does not contain a single substantive claim, all innuendo.
I will leave it to others to speculate what Nicole's motivation is for funding a tax on Casey and severing her relationship with Casey.
Okay, so it goes on and on and on.
But somebody responds here.
So, Dr. Mary Bowden...
Then it comes back and accuses Callie of lying.
Callie, why did you lie?
I encourage everyone to read this article I wrote detailing you and Casey's conflicts of interest.
Now, the conflicts of interest that she writes about, Dr. Bowden writes about, center around what the lower third says on the screen, big pharma data harvest is big business.
So they're both tied to companies.
Essentially, she argues that big data or health data is like the new oil in terms of how valuable it is and just the lucrative industry it is.
It's a lot of money.
But to kind of reemphasize this divide among Maha people that say, hey, look, I will say this.
Both sides...
Say they want to make children healthier.
Everybody agrees that there's a problem.
Again, the question is, how far are you going to go?
Are you going to go where all the facts lead, even if it's some big uniparty donor like Big Pharma, right?
That's the question.
As who has the intestinal fortitude to make everyone angry?
All the special, all the captive industries upset that their grift is now going to actually be made illegal.
And that's what we need to get better health outcomes.
We played this yesterday.
Danny Jones, the Danny Jones podcast, back three months ago, had Dr. Jack Cruz and Callie Means, the brother of Casey, And Dr. Mary Bowden.
And this was, I think, a defining moment.
And I think this kind of encapsulates this apparent divide.
And again, we will see what happens.
We will see.
We will know people by their fruits.
But I feel like this needs to be played again.
I mean, we are coming off of the biggest public health crisis in our lifetime.
That's Dr. Mary Bowden.
And, you know, while I completely agree with your message, I mean, our food supply has a lot to be desired.
It's an insidious health problem that's poisoning our kids.
I completely agree with that.
But the shots are a more immediate and dangerous threat to our population.
Children are still getting the shot today.
Which I think is a crime.
All babies, all babies, this is our own government, are recommended to get three mRNA shots, and this is synthetic modified mRNA shots, by the time they're nine months old.
Right.
Which is crazy.
And we know, we know that we have an abundance of data.
We have over 3,400 peer-reviewed published studies showing adverse reactions.
We know that in young people, the increased risk of myocarditis is at least four times.
This is an immediate threat, and these COVID shots should have been pulled off the market a long time ago.
And my feeling is that if you have a large microphone and you are in the public health space, that you are ethically obligated to speak out about this issue.
And I understand that...
This is not your issue.
And we've talked about this.
I mean, the trans problem is not my issue.
But I authentically feel that this gender modification in children is wrong.
So I do speak out about it.
I authentically feel that in any way pushing Jabs, particularly on kids, is an absolute war crime, and I've been saying that.
Do you feel like the COVID shots should be pulled off the market?
So that is not a policy stance that I'm going to say.
It's not a policy stance, Bobby.
Are you giving your children a shot?
Are you going to give your shot?
No, no.
Okay, and why not?
I think that that makes no sense.
Why?
Because you have reluctance about their safety.
Hold on.
Right?
Hold on.
Can I respond to this?
Yeah.
This issue of over-prescribing medications for kids, the schedule of kids, specifically...
Hold on.
You seem to be drawing a line of whether I'm calling for an immediate ban as a policy platform versus what I'm saying.
Or personally.
Just personally.
Can you say personally?
Personally, I think it's an absolute travesty how we've been misled, how these were fast-tracked.
Personally, do you feel like the chat should be pulled off the market?
Yes or no?
I'll give you my personal opinion.
I think there should be absolutely no mandates.
Hold on.
Just say no, man.
I think that we have an opportunity the next year to truly reset science.
This is what I feel.
And we have an opportunity to have Jay Bhattacharya, who's a close friend.
We're going to reset the science, but we're going to keep the jabs on the market.
You know, strongly pushed to be at the NIH.
That doesn't make any sense.
To call everyone together, review the science, have truth and reconciliation, bring that out to people, and have a process for that.
I think it's a general...
So the answer is no.
The answer is no.
That's Dr. Jack Cruz.
So you see the divide here.
We're going to blame big food.
Big food needs to be blamed.
You know, we talked about...
One of the things, so when Callie Means and Casey Means went on Tucker Carlson, and I watched it and I thought it was fascinating.
I thought it was really good.
I thought what they said was really good.
I thought exposing how, you know, the big tobacco had all these scientists making cigarettes as addictive as they could with all the chemicals, and then big tobacco, you know, once...
You know, the government went after Big Tobacco.
Big Tobacco took their money, and then they bought a bunch of food companies, and then they took those stable of scientists, and they got them to work on making our food more addictive.
And our food, you know, how do we increase the profits, you know?
How do we make this stuff, you know, basically addictive, like cigarettes?
I think that's a pretty bold claim, and it's insane.
And people like me and, you know, crunchy moms out there, We've been saying this forever.
There's something wrong with our food supply.
You have to put the blame on Big Food, but you can't put all of the blame on Big Food.
You have to also go after Big Pharma.
And I think this is a healthy skepticism and a healthy fear.
And when you have somebody like Callie Means, Casey Means' brother, who refuses to say that these shots need to be pulled off the market, it is a giant red flag.
There are some people that you, Cali Means, are not allowed to criticize, and it has to do, I mean, it's Pfizer and Moderna and all the lot of them, over what they did to this country, regardless of whether or not President Trump wants to admit that the shots were not his greatest achievement and were actually a terror on the people.
You could make an argument it's a form of bioterrorism.
So, much of this can be seen as a way to escape actual accountability, admit to the people what our government did to us, and instead just make only Big Food or Big Ag the culprit, the scapegoat that we'll pile all of our sins onto.
Send out into the wilderness or whatever.
And people are saying no.
That's why, again, Nicole Shanahan says people are contacting me.
Now, is it an influence op?
Are people being paid to draw skepticism or put out skepticism about the nomination?
I don't really know.
I mean, I suppose that's possible.
I think they're influence companies that run ops on everything.
If you really want to be honest about it.
Just because that is happening, though, does not necessarily mean that the suspicions or the caution or the healthy skepticism of those in the Maha movement doesn't mean those points are not valid, necessarily.
Real quick, this was Mary Talley Bowden, who we just heard there on that Danny Jones podcast from three months ago.
She has a substack called The Truth About True Med, Conflicts of Interest Within Maha.
She wrote this back on April 22nd of this year.
She says, today the FDA announced it's banning food dyes in Skittles, Cheetos, and other packaged products.
That's a win.
And Maha is ecstatic.
The leader of this effort, Callie Means, calls the forces he's facing demonic and the FDA's actions historic.
At the same time, Callie is strangely quiet on the fact that in the past 10 months, Over 9 million children have been injected with the latest version of an experimental gene product with no long-term safety data, and the government not only supports this, but expects this.
According to CDC guidelines, all babies are expected to get three Pfizer mRNA shots by the age of nine months.
Once again, this is a valid criticism.
It is amazing that we're getting the toxins and poison out of her food and that there appears to be movements to do that.
But why are they avoiding the big pharma elephant in the room, the giant vaccine syringe in the room?
Why are they avoiding it?
Who are they working for?
She says, when I spoke to Callie during the Danny Jones podcast, he assured me he had no interest in securing a position with President Trump.
Apparently, he was not sincere, as he is now an official special government employee charged with assisting HHS Director Robert F. Kennedy to embolden the Maha movement.
Cali, who convinced Robert F. Kennedy to drop out of the presidential race and endorse Trump, has much to gain from his high-power political position.
So, she goes on to talk about Cali Means has a company called TrueMed.
It essentially stretches the applicability of health savings accounts or flexible savings accounts to include a wide variety of wellness products traditionally not eligible for purchase using an HSA or an FSA.
So Means has been pushing for policy changes to support the broader use of HSA and FSA funds for products such as cold plunge systems, vitamins, and health tech gadgets.
By the way, all of those things might be fantastic, but you can see here we want to broaden the scope of what can be purchased with these HSAs and FSAs.
She goes on to talk about, by the way, you've got taxpayer incentives.
Taxpayer money is involved here.
She talks about TruMed, this company.
And then she talks about this other company that TruMed has partnered with called Eight Sleep, which is this really expensive bed that you can get that will monitor your sleep patterns, monitor your vital signs.
The bed can cool.
And that sort of thing.
But the interesting thing that happens here, aside from the fact that sometimes the bed has mold issues, because in order to cool they have to utilize water, is when it starts talking about the data collection.
The data collection, according to Dr. Bowden here, is the new oil.
And I find that, you know, I don't know a lot about this, so when I was reading this article this morning, you know, for the first time, This is news to me.
It says Dr. Casey Means dropped out of her Stanford residency in 2019.
Then she created a company called Levels.
So you have this company called TrueMed from one sibling and Levels from another sibling.
Levels sells health-focused online memberships that include continuous glucose monitors and nutrition devices.
So that's what they do.
Patients with diabetes.
Are going to use these electronic monitors to monitor their blood glucose levels.
Anyway, they essentially collect...
That's also data as well.
So you have this sleep bed thing that's collecting your data.
You have these glucose monitors that are collecting your data.
And interestingly enough, these companies...
Here she says, data is the new oil.
A claim that they will not sell your data to third parties, but there's a catch.
They will sell your data to third parties if they basically unspecify the data, strip off your name, strip off who you are, strip off your identity, but then they take the data of your biometric data, and then they will sell that, which is interesting.
Listen to this.
She says data is a trillion dollar industry and the value of health care data in particular is growing tremendously both in terms of economic potential and strategic importance.
The compounded annual growth rate of health care data is projected to be 13.85 percent from 2022 to 2030.
The market was valued at 32.9 billion dollars in 2021 and is expected to grow to 105 billion dollars by 2030.
I watched the interview with Shanahan on Glenn Beck's show, and this was her main concern that she said in the interview, the five-minute portion that I heard, was that the data selling is a giant red flag.
The buyers of healthcare data are diverse, ranging from pharmaceutical companies to health insurers to data brokers who aggregate and sell this information.
Tech giants like Google, through partnerships with health systems, leverage this data for developing health-related algorithms and services.
Pharmaceutical companies are very interested in acquiring health care data for developing and marketing new drugs but must navigate data privacy laws.
The market for health care data involves both direct purchases and partnerships or data sharing agreements where data might be exchanged for services or insights rather than direct monetary transactions.
Pfizer reportedly spends $12 million annually on health data.
But on the darker side, you have stolen data.
It's also often sold on the dark web to identify thieves or for extortion.
Healthcare data is among the most valuable on the black market due to its comprehensive nature.
It includes not just personal identifiers but detailed health records which can be exploited for identity theft, medical fraud, and other illegal activities.
For instance, individual medical records can sell for $250 each, significantly more than other types of personal data.
Hackers value healthcare data 50 times higher than credit card data.
Anyway, the rest of the article goes on to talk about how these companies...
She says, What is the power of data for Casey and Callie means?
Their mantra, we need the data, carries hidden implications, opportunity for innovation or exploitation.
True Med and Levels collect vast health data, potentially monetized through de-identified sales to third parties like pharmaceutical firms, which spend millions annually.
Callie's media blitz blurs genuine health advocacy with corporate marketing, she writes, leveraging Maha to promote True Med's agenda.
His HHS role, coupled with orchestrating RFK Jr.'s Trump alliance, intensifies concerns about data co-modification and policy bias, especially as HHS faces layoffs and restructuring that could prioritize corporate-friendly reforms over public health.
This is a very interesting article, again, by Dr. Bowden, and she's certainly one of the ones who thinks this Surgeon General pick is just a little bit concerning, to say the least.
I think that's an understatement right now.
People are calling there.
Laura Loomer and Callie Means are going at each other's throats right now.
Anyway.
So you tell me, what do you think?
Sound off, tweet at me, at Real Paul Harrell.
What do you really think is going on here?
Again, there are people that love this pick.
And again, I'm super excited that there's actually someone in there that's admitting that our food is toxic.
But are they going to go after the whole enchilada?
Are they going to really cut the head off the snake, which is the medical industrial complex, big pharma, all of these captured regulatory agencies that are not actually regulating?
The companies they're supposed to because they're bought and paid for.
That's what RFK Jr. has gone in there supposedly to fix.
But, like all of this stuff, we're going to have to wait and see.
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Okay, so let's talk Jeffrey Epstein, shall we?
Did Jeffrey Epstein kill himself?
Disappointingly, the FBI director, Kash Patel, says, yeah, yeah, he killed himself.
He was in questioning with Senator John Kennedy, a Republican from Louisiana, and this is what the exchange sounded like.
Did Jeffrey Epstein hang himself or did somebody kill him?
Senator, I believe he hung himself in a cell in the Metropolitan Detention Center.
Are you going to release all the information about that?
Senator, we are working through that right now with the Department of Justice.
When do you think you'll have it done, Cash?
I think in the near future, sir.
Like before I die?
Senator, we've been working on that, and we're doing it in a way that protects victims and also doesn't put out into the ether information that is irrelevant for production of the public, such as CSAM.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
All right, so, you know, I mean, what's he going to say?
I mean, nobody really believes that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, but he says, I believe he hung himself in his cell.
I mean, that's the official narrative, and I guess if you're going to change that narrative, like if you were going to come out as a government official and say, no, he didn't kill himself.
You probably wouldn't use a Senate hearing that's not specifically about that issue to do it.
You would hold a press conference and say, hey, we've got new evidence.
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself, and you would release it there.
So, I mean, you know, I get it.
But it's still, I mean, it's disappointing, right?
It's just kind of, it's disappointing that, you know, you see these guys, you know, they make these podcast circuits like Kash Patel did, and then you...
But, you know, when you go into government, there is a metamorphosis that takes place.
You know, the question is, you know, how much do you change when you go into government?
And, you know, you have to take into consideration that, you know, different responsibilities that you have, especially if you're, you know, the head of the FBI.
I get that, but it's still like, come on.
Jeffrey Epstein.
Nobody believes Jeffrey Epstein actually killed himself.
Matter of fact, Jim Ferguson highlights this.
Epstein murder bombshell guards drugged, cameras disabled, state actor involved.
It was a very awkward exchange between Ann Vandersteel and Patrick Byrne.
It really wasn't awkward on Ann's part.
It was more awkward on Patrick's part.
Whether you believe this or not, Patrick Byrne, while on air, gets a message saying, don't say what you're about to say.
And, you know, after some wiggling around, he then says it.
Listen to this.
It's about Epstein.
Six months ago, I was sent a message.
Well, I was sent, somebody came to see me, and among the things that I was told eight months ago, among the things I was told so that I would understand what we are up against, is I was told a detail of the crime scene.
Oh, I'm getting a message from someone saying, do not reveal this.
Sorry, I actually got a message from...
I got a message that...
That's okay.
I just got a message flashed up to me from someone saying, do not reveal this.
And it's a person who knows...
Okay.
I don't want anybody...
I don't want you to reveal anything.
I'm sorry.
That's okay.
That's okay.
No, I'll tell you.
I'm going to tell you.
It was from the Epstein death scene.
It was a detail that was shared with me.
Just one little detail of the scene that tells you, that was conveyed to me so I would understand what we were up against.
And the detail of the scene.
Of the crime scene was one that this one detail shows that it was not a suicide.
It was, in fact, a murder.
And it's a detail that once you understand it reveals we have to be, this isn't the Gambino family.
This isn't the Genovese family.
This had the sophistication.
Well, I've got to say it now because otherwise they might kill me.
But no, literally there was just someone sending me flash message, do not say this.
But so this is...
You know how the guards...
Come on, Patrick.
You know how the guards...
We know that the guards...
Okay, to the person who just sent me that message, send me an explanation.
Should I or should I not?
If you don't want me to say this, give me 10 words as to why I should not say this.
In the meantime, I'm going to give a little bit more color.
It was a detail that was meant to communicate to me.
It was a murder and indicate to me the seriousness of the people behind it.
Well, I guess it's too late.
It was the Epstein crime scene and the guards...
I was told that the guards, you know, who fell asleep in the...
Right.
Fell asleep.
Yeah, we all thought that.
Well, guess what?
They did fall asleep.
Their blood was tested the next morning, and they found traces of nitrous oxide.
So what's that tell you, man?
Wow.
It would suggest that this is a state actor of some kind involved, much more sophisticated if that's the case.
So, I mean, I don't know how old this video is.
I mean, Jim Ferguson posted it.
Today, at 4.04 a.m., he lives across the pond, obviously.
But, yeah, that's a big deal, right?
But it confirms, I mean, nobody believed the official narrative.
Nobody believed the official narrative.
So...
That's why it's just kind of frustrating.
But that brings us to James O 'Keefe.
Yesterday we covered at the end of the show how people were pretty disappointed with James O 'Keefe's bombshell story that ended up just being about Prince Andrew sleeping with underage girls and his connection to Epstein, which we already knew about.
Very interesting thing happened with Alex Jones claiming that Pam Bondi was covering up.
He said that he thought that the O 'Keefe report was going to be about how Pam Bondi was covering up the Epstein files in some way.
But then the video dropped and she wasn't even mentioned.
And so then I thought we were going to have to wait until next week.
I think that's what the last report said.
James O 'Keefe said, tune in next week.
Well, then he didn't.
He released another report yesterday.
Yesterday evening is when I saw it.
Well, you tell me.
There's still people disappointed even in this, but just you tell me what you think.
Yesterday, Attorney General of the United States Pam Bondi was at the White House and disclosed what she represented as brand new information in relation to Jeffrey Epstein.
The existence of tens of thousands of videos featuring little children.
There are tens of thousands of videos.
Of Epstein with children or child porn.
Now, this is the first time an official has publicly acknowledged that videos of Epstein and his victims exist.
What you may not know is just nine days prior, the attorney general had a very similar conversation with a total stranger in a restaurant.
Do you know when the Epstein files are going to get released?
We hope soon.
Okay.
Any dates?
No, you know what it is?
There are tons and thousands of datingos.
Yeah, and it's all with little pins.
In the past, officials have spoken about the, quote, mountain of evidence in the Epstein case.
But they've never previous to that moment acknowledged on the existence of videos of, quote, little kids.
Just a few days later, at 2 p.m. on May 1st, our reporter sent the AG's office the text of the recording.
We asked why this detail had not been disclosed to the public, but was instead being told to a random stranger at a restaurant.
The attorney general used almost the exact same language as she did with the stranger in the restaurant, language that we shared with her press office.
There are tens of thousands of videos.
Yeah, and it's all but little pins.
There are tens of thousands of videos.
Let me tell you what happened.
Do you see that that says May 7th?
I think it's pretty clear what happened with this whole thing.
May 7th was when O 'Keefe was supposed to drop his story.
And instead he dropped a Prince Andrew story.
He was going to drop this story about Bondi, but then Bondi went out.
And had a, you know, you can assume had a question about Epstein in the audience that, you know, she arranged to happen.
And then she says the very thing she said in private, she says in public.
This is, I mean, people, this is very, to me, it's obvious now at this point.
I think I speculated something close to this yesterday, and I think now I'm proven right.
So he had to redo his report.
Everybody was waiting for some bombshell.
And Pam Bondi goes out there on May 7th, which was Wednesday.
That was the day everybody was waiting on the O 'Keefe report to drop.
That was also the day that Alex Jones put out the video saying, I've talked to O 'Keefe, I think it's Bondi, and I think she's covering up for Epstein somehow.
And I don't know how you would get that just from the limited video that we have.
But I think that's why it took so long for O 'Keefe to release.
Everybody was waiting and refreshing.
Like, in the late afternoon, people were saying, you know, they were doing those memes of the Pablo Escobar guy or whatever, you know, sitting around, you know, waiting on the O 'Keefe bombshell story you dropped.
Well, I think they were editing the Prince Andrew video.
I think they were rush editing the Prince Andrew video because what they were going to put out about Pam Bondi had just kind of been blown up because Pam Bondi went out to the microphone and said publicly what she had said privately, and they had given the quote.
They had given her the quote in the email.
I mean, I think that's what James is saying here.
I think that explains a lot.
I think the question still would be, like, well, what's the big there there?
I mean, we still want the Epstein files.
I think it's a big deal that we now have, you know, a lot of people have tried to, some people have tried to diminish what Jeffrey Epstein did and just talk about how this was a sex ring of underage girls, you know, meaning 16, you know, 17 years old.
It's a bigger deal that, again, the conspiracy theorists are right once again, that they have thousands and thousands of videos of actual children, child porn.
It sounds like it's very, very young little kids.
And so I think that's certainly a big development.
In a way, we probably wouldn't have gotten that.
I think it's safe to say if it wasn't for O 'Keefe, So, I mean, in that way, you know, to put a positive spin on it all, you could say that, you know, speaking truth to power worked in this case and got somebody to admit publicly what they admitted privately.
Although the idea that there are a bunch of video, I mean, we've had...
You know, there are other instances of where they've talked about all of the videos and stuff as well existing, but maybe they just haven't been as specific as this, and I could have missed something in that.
Piled porn.
Now, we hesitated to publish this story, but believe, like we did yesterday, that the public has a right to know.
And this one raises serious questions.
On one hand, why did our country's highest law enforcement official Share this information, first, not with the American people, but with a self-described nanny at brunch.
But more importantly, why was this information held back in the first place?
Does this show that a government apparatus is still working behind the scenes to protect powerful people involved in the scandal?
Based upon the response to our Epstein story yesterday, it's clear that the American people want answers.
And they want accountability.
So, one of the critics of James O 'Keefe is a guy named Clandestine, who we definitely follow when it comes to the bioweapons labs and stuff in Ukraine.
He thinks this is just a really bad look.
He says that this was the big reveal that all the Bondi haters have been hyping up.
This is an absolute nothing burger.
He writes, Bondi is asked when the Epstein files will be released.
She says she cannot give dates and that the FBI are working on it, and there are tens of thousands of videos of little kids that the FBI are going over.
Firstly, this is not news, as Bondi has been on Fox News very consistently for weeks.
Okay.
Keeping the public updated, she has told us that the SDNY delivered tens of thousands of files, audio, video, etc.
Epstein was running a honeypot blackmail operation trafficking children and arrested on charges for abusing children.
This is not breaking news.
We've known this for years.
Yet that scumbag O 'Keefe is trying to paint this as if Bondi is somehow covering up the Epstein files when in reality she just confirmed once again that they're still looking over it and hopefully it will be done soon.
This doesn't paint Bondi in a bad light at all, he says.
And those trying to push this as some sort of scandal are no allies of MAGA or the American people.
Well, here's the deal.
And that's, you know, obviously they're at odds.
There's a big disagreement here with O 'Keefe.
Somebody like Pam Bondi, somebody like Akash Patel, I'll just say this again.
If you don't produce results, and, you know, I'm willing, you know, I think everybody needs to be as vocal as they want to be and demand accountability and, you know, make a big arrest, great.
We can celebrate the big arrests of 200 pedophiles.
And then you have an obligatory, hey, by the way, stay on the Epstein stuff.
Where are the Epstein files?
If you're Pam Bondi and you're Akash Patel and you don't produce results, criminal prosecutions and arrests, everybody is going to think you're in on it.
Everybody is going to think you're in on it, as they should.
As they should.
We're at a point now where there is a cascading failure of confidence in government institutions from dog catcher to the White House.
Just with where we're at, and none of us should feel guilty about wanting...
Wanting accountability and being hard on even the elected officials we voted on to make sure they get the job done.
They're there to represent us, not to come back and give us a bunch of excuses about why they can't arrest some Republican donor who was on a plane with Jeffrey Epstein.
Okay?
And that's just the truth.
I hope Pam Bondi does it.
We should pray for Pam Bondi.
We should pray for Cash.
We should pray for these people to have the fortitude to bring...
Criminals to justice and to be a terror.
The government should be a terror against the evildoer.
They're given the sword for a reason.
So, anyway.
All the infighting, I'm sure, is going to continue.
And we will continue to cover it as well.
And hopefully, we'll be able to look back and say, hey, we got some positive results.
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Okay, so here is the time where I tell you, because we're running out of time on the show today, and I have left a lot on the cutting room floor.
We didn't get to talk about a bunch of stuff.
But we didn't get to talk about Judge Janine Shapiro.
Now's the time of the show where I urge you, if you don't, to go to church.
Go to church and find a church that preaches the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ and his mighty ability to save sinners, such as me.
And we didn't get to talk about the Pope either.
But there are churches out there that you probably want to avoid.
And here's one of them.
Courtesy of Protestia, the Muhlenberg Lutheran Church.
On May the 4th, so last Sunday it was May the 4th, so you had all this, May the 4th be with you, May the 4th be with you.
A lot of people don't realize that Star Wars has been ruined.
So, you know, some people...
Star Wars is gay now, so...
Nobody really cares about May the 4th be with you, but that didn't stop some woke pastors from trying to work May the 4th be with you into a sermon.
So if you don't go to church, you need to go to church, but you don't need to go to a church like this.
How could you not think of the martyrdom of Stephen as a foundational story for George Lucas to write the death of Obi-Wan Kenobi on the Death Star in Star Wars A New Hope in 1977, right?
Obi-Wan's stoic resolve as he faced down his former pupil, Darth Vader, now the physical embodiment of evil and empire, stating fearlessly, strike me down and I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
I mean.
Come on.
The sermon writes itself.
And then it even says in Acts 6.15 that Stephen sat under trial and his face shone and his appearance was like that of an angel.
Was your mind not just hyperspaced back to the swamps of Dagobah?
As wise Master Yoda told a young Luke Skywalker, luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
I'm sure you've all fully anticipated this sermon, where eventually I would say something like, in the depth of Empire's shadow, as it creeps across our land and our galaxy, dear friends, be a lightsaber of hope.
And if I were preaching that sermon, then I'd reach into the pulpit and I'd pull out an actual lightsaber.
And I'd probably summarize and wrap up the whole thing with the most predictable sermon title ever.
Dear Church, with a love like Jesus, with a peace like Stephen, with courage like Obi-Wan, with a wisdom like Yoda, may the faith be with you.
My man is acting like he's delivering the sermon of his life in this video.
This guy saw that May the 4th was going to fall on a Sunday.
He's had this thing circled for five years on the calendar.
Oh, he's probably been writing this sermon for a long time.
Yeah, you know, just go to a church that preaches the Bible.
Ideally, just kind of line by line, exegetically, and tells you what the Word of God says, what it means.
What it means for Christian life and trust the Holy Spirit to change your hearts with the power of the Word of God being spoken and preached and the Word rightly divided.
Find a church like that if you don't go.
For those of you that do go to church, though, I want to wish you a great weekend.
I want to wish you a blessed Lord's Day.
And unless I'm providentially hindered, I'm going to be back here on Monday wishing you a happy Monday.
Thank you guys so much for watching.
Can't do the show without you.
God bless everybody.
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Have a great weekend.
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