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May 5, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: CNN’s Cartel Cover-Up: Turning Killers into “Community Leaders”
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This is the Millsup Report.
My name is Paul Harrell.
Thank you so much for being with us, as always.
We cannot do the show without you watching, so we really do appreciate it.
I hope everybody had a blessed Lord's Day yesterday.
Just a wonderful church day.
I hope everybody had that.
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We've got a great show for you today.
We're going to cover what CNN has done.
Again, essentially trying to normalize or sympathize with the Mexican drug cartels.
We're going to cover that story, and then a little later in the program, we talked about this last week.
We highlighted a group panel that took place at the Christ is King How to Defeat Trash World Conference, I guess now last month, the beginning of April, is when this took place.
And one of the speakers at the conference in that round time, you had John Harris, Stephen Wolfe, Steve Dace, Father Calvin Robinson, Joel Webin, R.N. McIntyre, and I may be leaving somebody out.
But anyway, we kind of played a few clips from that discussion.
Well, over the weekend, I think it was Saturday when I saw it, The portion where the Blaze's Steve Dace gave his talk was released, and I watched it.
And I even tweeted about it, how I thought it was a fantastic speech generally, and it was such a ministry to me.
So we're going to cover parts of that speech on today's program, because I really feel that it's something that more people need to hear.
And the basic crux of the speech...
It's essentially there are two great commandments.
The two greatest commandments, right?
We hear about the New Testament basically summarizing the Ten Commandments, the first table of the law and then the second table of the law.
The first table of the law, the first great commandment summarizing it is to love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul, strength.
And then the second greatest commandment is to love your neighbor as yourself.
What Steve Dace said in this speech that we're going to cover, It's essentially that we have put the second commandment, love your neighbor as yourself, as the first of the two great commandments, so that we go throughout life not wanting to offend anybody at the sake of our neighbor, so we're perfectly okay with offending God by essentially not loving him with all of our heart, mind, soul, body, strength.
He talks about how that's the problem.
That's what woke...
Big Eva has done.
Megan Basham's book perfectly proves it, articulates it well.
You know, a safe space for Marxism within church or church institutions.
It's now default center-left in a lot of cases.
But then he warns about the danger of the pendulum swinging back to where, okay, we can set this right, but we also can't just totally ignore the second.
Once it's set right, we can't ignore the second of the greatest commandments, which is to love your neighbor as yourself.
It's essentially highlighting, if you're on a road, there's two sides.
You can go off the ditch to the left, you can go off the ditch to the right.
I thought it was really good, and we're going to cover that here in just a minute.
But before we do that, we have to talk about what CNN has done.
The first person I ever heard, it was in the 2016 election.
It was right after.
The Benghazi lie, where Susan Rice went all around to the Sunday talk shows and said it was the Benghazi 9-11 terror attacks that were based on a video, some video.
That's what got everybody up in arms when it was a total lie, covering up the intel oligarchy's weapon, running weapons into the Middle East and everything else.
It was the late pollster by the name of Pat Cadell who said that the media is the enemy.
Of the American people.
And I remember in 2012, Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, you know, were going at it.
And I remember thinking, wow, that was, I mean, that was at the time.
It doesn't seem very provocative now.
But at the time, it was very provocative to say that the media is the enemy of the people.
Or at least it was in my mind.
We're way beyond that now.
It's clearly the case.
They very much are because they actively deceive people.
They want people to make decisions based on what they think is true and essentially ruin their own lives in many regards.
But anyway, before we get to what CNN ran, they actually interviewed a Mexican gang member, covered up his face.
And we're going to go into this story first.
So President Trump was asked on his plane about...
The Mexican president, Claudia Steinbaum.
So apparently Donald Trump has decided to, or did decide, to offer the United States military basically, hey, we'll go in, if you'll let us, we'll go in and we'll clean up this cartel mess.
And the news is that the Mexican president, Steinbaum, declined Donald Trump's offer.
Let's listen.
Send U.S. troops into Mexico to take care of the cartel.
She wants to know, is that true?
Do you think I'm going to answer that question?
That's why I'm asking.
We'll see.
I will answer it.
It's true.
Absolutely.
Because they should be...
They are horrible people that have been killing people left and right.
That have been...
They've made a fortune in selling drugs and destroying our people.
We lost 300,000 people last year.
Two-fifth it all in drugs.
They're bad news.
Yeah, that's true.
If Mexico wanted help with the cartels, we would be honored to go in and do it.
I told her that I would be honored to go in and do it.
The cartels are trying to destroy our country.
They're evil!
And, you know, we had 300,000 people die last year from fentanyl and all of that.
We had hundreds, we had millions of people brought into this country that shouldn't be here.
The cartels brought them in.
So if she said that I offered to do that, she's 100% right.
Well, she's so afraid of the cartel, she can't walk.
So, you know, that's the reason.
And I think she's a lovely woman.
But the president of Mexico is a lovely woman, but she is so afraid of the cartels that she can't even think straight.
So Trump's essentially saying that the government of Mexico is completely captured, controlled by criminals who are outside the law.
So this comes also with the news that Donald Trump's saying that he wants to rebuild and open Alcatraz.
But now would be a good time to watch.
The unofficial James Bond movie, The Rock.
By the way, there is a compelling YouTube video out there that says that this Nick Cage, Sean Connery movie, The Rock...
Is actually the story of James Bond at the end of his Bond movie run that he got captured.
Anyway, there's so many Easter eggs in that movie where they somehow made it.
I'm convinced, anyway, that they made a James Bond movie without actually having to get the James Bond license to do it.
It's fascinating.
Anyway.
Donald Trump, rebuild and open Alcatraz.
For too long, America has been plagued by vicious, violent, and repeat criminal offenders, the dregs of society who will never contribute anything other than misery and suffering.
When we were a more serious nation in times past, we did not hesitate to lock up the most dangerous criminals and keep them far away from anyone they could harm.
That's the way it's supposed to be.
No longer will we tolerate these serial offenders who spread filth, bloodshed, and mayhem on our streets.
That is why today I am directing the Bureau of Prisons, together with the Department of Justice, FBI, and Homeland Security, to reopen a substantially enlarged and rebuilt Alcatraz.
to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders.
We will no longer be held hostage to criminals, thugs, and judges that are afraid to do their job and allow us to remove criminals who came into our country illegally at the reopening of Alconor.
will serve as a symbol of law, order, and justice.
We will make America great again.
So if you don't wind up in the El Salvadorian prison, you're going to wind up at Alcatraz, which is a, uh...
It's just, it's incredible.
Yeah, I think this is, I've wondered for a long time.
You know, a lot of people speculate that one of the main reasons Alcatraz was so successful is because it's, you know, in the middle of the ocean.
There's that giant, you know, body of water between Alcatraz and the land that it actually isolates criminals.
It makes it harder for criminals to continue to run their criminal enterprise from prison.
Because they're really cut off.
You know, in order to get to Alcatraz, you've got to take a boat.
So, yeah, I think that would be a great idea, and the idea of essentially just being even a symbol as well, a kind of a terror, if you will, to the evildoer, which is exactly what government is supposed to do with the sword.
Anyway, here's the story.
CNN is now interviewing cartel members to ask how they feel about Donald Trump labeling them Listen to this.
According to the Trump administration, you are a terrorist.
The cartels have been labeled a foreign terrorist organization.
What do you make of that?
Okay, so, well, the situation is ugly.
But we have to eat.
The poor Mexican cartels, they've got to eat.
I mean...
We really should play the Sarah McLaughlin in the arms of the angel soundtrack behind this to really pull at the heartstrings of the American people.
What's your message to Donald Trump if he's watching this?
My respect, he says.
According to him, he's looking out for his people.
But the problem is the consumers are in the United States.
If there weren't any consumers, we would stop.
So it's our fault that 300,000 Americans are being killed because fentanyl, and China is, according to some reports, behind the push as well.
So if there weren't any consumers, if there just weren't people in America that...
We're just free market capitalists.
That's all we are.
Interestingly enough, over at the Tucker Carlson podcast, he recently interviewed a guy, a recovering drug addict, by the name of Chris Sella.
And it was a fascinating discussion.
I watched most of it yesterday.
And they got to a part where Tucker talked about when he realized that the Cato Institute They held a conference and they were basically, they put out that same talking point, right?
Kind of a libertarian idea that one of the main reasons that drugs are a problem is because people want the drugs.
And if there wasn't the market for it, then it wouldn't exist.
And so it's the idea of not banning something, right?
I still want my t-shirts made.
Banning things is good sometimes.
But this was the part of the episode that I think speaks directly to this.
This idea that, well, you know, the war on drugs, we can't ban it because, you know, there's a market for it.
Like, this is great.
Well, Sue, let me ask you, like, a philosophical question.
So, in between jobs once, and I got fired from another job, I was an unpaid fellow at a libertarian think tank in D.C., and I thought I was a libertarian.
I sort of am libertarian in a lot of ways still, you know.
I really don't want to bother other people.
But I...
I left after a drug policy conference that I went to that really kind of changed my thinking on the world.
And at it, they explained the libertarian position on drug policy, which is kind of America's position on drug policy, which is it's the drug addict's fault.
Like people get addicted to drugs.
That's their problem.
That's their fault.
And it's kind of the demand explanation for the drug epidemic.
It's like we have a lot of drugs because people want a lot of drugs in this country.
It's not.
Mexico or China's fault or the drug dealer's fault.
Yeah, the desire for it.
And that's what Mexico says.
If you people didn't want it so badly...
Exactly.
And I thought, you know, that makes sense.
It's kind of like one of those lines you hear.
They're like, yeah, that sounds right.
And then you think of your own life and then you think of the people you know who got tragically fucked up or killed by drugs.
Of course, I know a lot of them.
And you think, no, actually.
Some of them are like your mom, super healthy person, obviously a distance runner, the healthiest person in America.
They're distance runners.
And she has an injury and some doctor gives her a drug and she becomes an addict.
Yeah, and my dad literally one time he went...
So sorry about the F-bomb there.
I didn't know it was in there.
We try to at least keep it clean here or we try to...
At least give you a warning.
So my fault on that.
I didn't realize that there was going to be an F-bomb drop.
But yeah, the point goes on to talk about how he already said, this is exactly what Mexico says about it.
And Tucker goes on to talk about how the Cato Institute he thinks are full of liars.
But it's interesting to me in this particular podcast, if you go and watch the whole thing, this Chris Sella guy, Started out, you know, kind of doing some pills, started out smoking weed, then went to do some pills, then he was snorting pills, and within nine months, he went from that to smoking heroin to shooting up heroin within a nine-month period.
But it's just, oh, well, you know, it's the drug addict's fault, and ultimately it is, but the idea that you can't have a national policy.
And actually ban this substance that is addictive and does destroy people's lives and is kind of nonsense.
You know what?
To say all that, I think Trump needs to use the military, continue to militarize the southern border and winnow our enemies and these people that are literally, in some cases, you know, you have reports out there of the satanic underpinning of it all.
I don't buy anymore that this is about money.
This is about actually, like, they want dead Americans.
They want Americans to die from these drugs, in my opinion.
That's the whole point of lacing this stuff with fentanyl, is to kill people, not to get them high.
At least that's where I'm on it at this point.
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Okay, so Steve Dace.
Steve Dace went to the Christ is King, How to Defeat Trash World conference at the beginning of April.
We covered, again, the panel that was released to the public.
A lot of this conference, I think, has been behind a paywall for the last three, four weeks.
It's slowly being released by Right Response Ministries.
I watched this and I just felt like generally it was a fantastic speech.
I want to share Steve Dace's speech with you.
We're going to go through a few highlights that I've pulled.
We're also going to listen to a big chunk of it as well.
As I was going through today trying to figure out what do I want you to hear, the audience here, the listeners of the Millstone Report, There's just, I would encourage all of you to go watch the whole thing.
We're not going to be able to watch the whole thing here, but let's just start, let's see here.
Let's start with his Twitter account, Steve Dace's Twitter account, given all the feedback I received about my decision to speak at the conference.
So he referenced this.
He had people say, hey, don't go to this conference.
Don't speak at this conference.
It's not what you want to do.
He says, I thought it was the responsible thing to do to post that talk here for all to see.
That way you can make up your minds about what I had to say.
So here we have the YouTube clip, and we're going to start seven minutes and 38 seconds into the talk.
Again, one of his main points, he's got so many great points, but...
One of his main points he's going to get to is that we've inverted the greatest commandments.
The first, love the Lord, your God with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself.
We've put love your neighbor as yourself as the first commandment.
Essentially...
Being okay with offending God, but we're not okay if we offend our neighbor, and how that's infiltrated.
That mentality has infiltrated the woke church.
A ton of great critiques throughout this speech about the woke church.
Let's pick up about 7 minutes, 38 seconds in.
Because I want us to be successful.
But I can promise you this.
If we do not attempt to advance the kingdom of God by the rules of his kingdom, we will not be.
We will not be.
And it won't matter how clever we are.
It won't matter how brave we are.
It won't matter how blunt or bold we are.
If we do not do this by the methods of God's kingdom and for his glory, he will not bless it.
Now, over the last generation of third-way Big Eva scam religion, That usually meant, I can see some of you bristling, and I used to sit in seats where you are hearing speakers say this, and I would bristle too because I knew what was coming.
Out comes the sweater vests, out comes the Hawaiian shirts, and out comes the pleated khakis, and the unstated 11th commandment on the third tablet that God just forgot to give Moses, which is the most important commandment of them all.
Above all, thou must be nice at all times.
Nice.
Right?
That's not what I'm here for.
If you listen to our show, we're not very nice most of the time.
All right?
And maybe, you know, as Spock once said, only Nixon could go to China.
So maybe someone like me needs to be the one to bring this message.
Because I've been defying nice all along.
I remember the first time I ever spoke for my faith.
I'd just gotten converted.
I'm a fairly well-known local sports talk radio host and one of the big mega churches in town.
So you can tell he already knows that the particular audience he's talking to, the idea that essentially, and he's going to say this in a minute, the pendulum swung so far left.
So aggressively, and people have had enough of it.
People are sick of it.
I mean, you just look at what's going on right now with the Carmelo Anthony and now this Shiloh lady who's on a Minnesota playground using the N-word.
People have had enough in a lot of different ways culturally.
There's a huge pushback coming that is really here.
Well, what Steve Dace is saying here, to a room full of people who are in the fight, A room full of people who are sick of, you know, Christless conservatism is that there is another side of the ditch.
We are in a ditch, not on the road, but in the attempt to get back on the road, you can actually swerve into the other ditch.
Now, this is something that some people might say is, you know, a form of weakness.
It certainly doesn't comport with some of the culture right now that everybody tries to outbase everyone else.
So he knows.
He says, I know what you're feeling with him because it is a caution.
It is a concern.
Like so many people, you'll get this from Big Eva, oh, I'm concerned about your tone.
So he understands.
How a warning like this could be seen as, you know, weak.
Skipping ahead, we're going to skip ahead to the, let's see, what did I write down here?
The 2219 mark.
Excuse me for not having this ready.
Let's see here.
22. Yeah, we'll start about right here.
Here we go.
Listen to this next part.
You'll become that.
You'll become the boss.
Widgets for widget's sake, profit for profit's sake.
We have no higher mission here other than the business must make a profit.
You'll become that.
You'll just mix some Bible verses in.
I see it in the homeschooling community.
We're coming up on homeschool graduation season, otherwise known as...
Take Jeremiah 29:11 completely out of context 10 million times every year season.
For I know the plans I have for you.
Listen, I'm a big believer in homeschooling.
We homeschooled both of our daughters all the way through.
The only reason our son didn't get homeschooled all the way through is because it was very clear when he got to seventh grade he needed a level of male competition that I just was not able to provide in the home unless he competed with me and that was going to be bad.
That's why we put him in a Christian school.
So he would have to compete with other boys and learn what that is like.
We are big advocates for it.
Longtime friend of mine, Michael Ferris, Patrick Henry College, HSLDA, big believers in it.
So...
All right, one second.
Here's where we really...
I'm glad we played that.
Providentially, I think we should have played that clip.
This was the starting point I really wanted.
Jeremiah 2910.
How about Jeremiah 29, 12?
Have you ever read that?
In fact, have you read the entire rest of the book of Jeremiah?
It starts off with, the Jews went down in the valley of Topeth, that's a Hebrew word for hell, and they cast their babies into the fire to a demon.
It starts there.
It starts there.
For this, God sent Nebuchadnezzar to conquer the people.
Basically, Nebuchadnezzar was the buckle of dad's belt.
And he took it off.
And he spanked them harshly for the evil that they did.
And then he dispersed them for the next 70 years.
Their entire legacy way of life, gone.
The temple, gone.
The ark, gone.
For I know the plans I have for you.
Plans not to harm you, but to give you a hope in the future.
Plans not to harm you, but to give you a hope in the future.
We can't take the word of God out of context in either direction.
The great error of the last generation of the church, in my opinion, is that we took the second greatest commandment, love your neighbor as you love yourself, and we made it number one.
Not number two.
We made it number one.
And therefore, what ended up happening is we were perfectly fine offending God.
We just had to make sure we didn't offend people.
Well, God is love, although, by the way, the amount of times in the Bible it says God is love as opposed to talking about his holiness is something like 20 to 1, but I digress.
Well, God is love, but love is not God.
God gets to define what love is, not us.
And so if we make it that the highest thing is, and the definition of loving our neighbor as ourselves is, whatever might offend and not accommodate our neighbor, we can't say.
We have appointed ourselves God's editors.
There's a word for people who think they can edit the word of God.
Who knows what it is?
Heretic.
That's the word.
Everyone in hell has something in common.
You know what it is?
They all had an opinion.
And they went to hell with those opinions.
People are in heaven for truth.
People are in hell for their opinions.
And so therefore, we had to play to a crowd.
What would draw a crowd?
Now listen, Pentecost, 3,000 men.
We don't even count the women and children.
3,000 men get saved.
And all the Presbyterians in the audience.
Got a kick out of that line.
...be by any definition today a megachurch.
The amount of people in this room today would be called a megachurch.
Calvin preached to churches of thousands.
Maybe the greatest English-speaking minister of all time, Charles Spurgeon, preached to churches that had thousands of people.
Megachurch isn't a population, it's a mindset.
It's where elders are replaced by boards of directors and creeds are replaced by mission statements.
And we corporatize the church.
We're no longer sinners in need of catechesis.
We're customers.
We're no longer believers in need of discipleship.
We're customers.
And in a business parlance, the customer is always right.
You don't want to hear that message anymore?
Well, just stop preaching it.
Uplifting and hope-filled, that's all we do here.
I just want to praise Jesus.
What did Jesus preach?
The Word of God.
The whole thing.
And back then, it was just the Old Testament.
He was the New Testament coming to life before us.
We had none of Paul's letters yet.
So that means he's preaching in precatory prayers, judgments, warfare.
The kind of stuff that just isn't polite to preach today.
And the church growth consultants from Willow Creek and Saddleback told us, won't bring in those soccer moms, see that as Karen, that are the key to unlocking the suburbs.
That is, by the way, church growth consultants speak for you getting the level of funding you want to build the pottery barn church you desire.
And it all came from this one lie.
That the greatest commandment now is to love your neighbor as you love yourself.
And somewhere down the line is number two.
Love the Lord your God while your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
The summary of the first tablet.
Love your neighbor as you love yourself.
The summary of the second.
My concern, because I'm a student of history, and pendulums tend to swing violently in one direction or the other.
Because as a species, the one thing we're, well, two things.
The two things we're really good at as a species, we are all master idol makers.
Even my adorable little granddaughter, Autumn, who I promise is cuter than all of your grandkids, and I'll bite you.
Alright, so, stopping there.
First of all, his critique of the woke church in the suburbs and the code for funding to get your pottery barn church is...
Is excellent.
Again, I think his articulation of replacing the first great commandment and putting the second ahead of it is also spot on.
Trying to reach the suburban soccer mom.
This is really, you know, it goes into what we talk about with the feminization of not only our whole society, but the church.
In general, now, you know, my thesis on this, just quickly, is, you know, when you talk about idols, he's about to talk about idols and how we're excellent idol makers, and we certainly are.
You know, feminism has become an idol.
The woman in and of itself has become an idol, and that has affected so much of our society.
And it really just comes, and the reason you know this, and one of the reasons the church has fallen is, you know, obviously they get away from Scripture, but...
Just practically speaking, if a woman has the right to legally murder her child with no consequences for it from the state, no way to prosecute that as a murder, then it's kind of silly for some pastor to say, oh, you can't preach a sermon at a church, if you think about it.
Again, you know, if aliens were looking down and trying to figure out who's in charge, well, what class of people is so special in America that they can murder without being punished for it?
Those are the people that are actually leading your society.
If nobody else has the right to murder, but one group does, you would think, well, there's something special.
These are our overlords.
These are the people who have been given a special privilege.
And so that's one of the reasons why it has infected in so many other areas, specifically the mainline denominations, and it's why...
We're on the slippery slope we currently are on.
Okay, so I just wanted to preface that with this.
Again, this is Steve Dace at the Christ is King, How to Defeat Trash World Conference from earlier in the month.
If you're just joining us, here's some more of what he had to say about how we are idol makers.
All right?
See me after.
Okay?
We went over to watch her a couple of weeks ago, and everything was going great.
Until Grandma said a magic little word.
What word do you think that was?
No.
Oh, yes.
And she's like this redhead with blue eyes.
Redheads always have green eyes.
Not that those aren't great.
But she's a redhead with blue eyes.
She is the picture of adorable.
But when Grandma said no, she was like, what you talking about, Willis?
I don't get told no.
So yes, even the very picture of loveliness, in fact, that's my nickname for her.
Loveliness, that's what I call her.
The very picture of loveliness, Autumn Elizabeth, is already, at the ripe old age of one, an absolute master idol maker.
As we get older, here's the other thing we become great at, too.
Reactionary-ism.
Now, sometimes reactionary-ism is good.
Somebody breaks into your home, threatens your family.
Your instant reaction is to get up and harm them before they harm the ones you love.
That's a good reaction, right?
So there's nothing wrong, inherently wrong with reactionism.
But like everything else, it has to be tethered to something.
The reason why that reaction is good is because that is a husband and a father fulfilling his God-ordained role.
But without it being tethered to something, it's just a reaction.
It might even be the opposite reaction of what is bad, but in the kingdom of God, that does not make it good.
God's standards are not subjective.
He doesn't compare righteousness to what we understand as bad, and therefore say, well, the opposite of what you think is bad is therefore good.
No.
This is true.
Why do bad things happen to good people?
Wrong.
There aren't any good people.
Why does God use problematic people?
There's only problematic people.
The standard and ethics of the kingdom of God are not the same as ours.
He does not live a binary existence.
He is both imminent and transcendent.
And the challenge for us is to emulate that as best we can by the power of His Holy Spirit, the hope of glory of Christ at work in us.
So the reaction I fear I am starting to see and I am worried about this, and I say this as someone that has made this mistake myself, The reaction to the old heresy of we can offend God but never offend our neighbor is to go the other way now and let's just take the second commandment out altogether.
Jesus said it's the second greatest commandment, folks.
I still think it's kind of important to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Some of you may have heard my interview recently with a young man.
Who is very sympathetic to much of what's being said at this conference.
But I had seen some things on his ex account I was very troubled by.
So I asked him to come on and he did.
And I gave him a chance to tell me what he thought.
If you listen to my reaction over and over again, I kept saying to him, we have to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
I'm sorry that a generation of church growth consultants hijacked that to mean stand for nothing, believe in nothing, do nothing!
Let's stop right there.
This is, I think, one of the best parts.
Because just because it has been hijacked, the tendency is to completely disregard it altogether.
Because there are so many for us, you know, I'm 40. I'm frustrated, but I know the people that are younger than me are even more frustrated.
You know, angry and red-pilled.
And that's why I've said many times on this show, but if you don't have Christ...
If it's not based on the fundamental truth of Christ and the gospel, and he said this last week in the panel, that just a mere political movement by itself will not last, will not be able to last the stresses of life.
That's what Francis Schaeffer wrote about in How Should We Then Live?
and Why the Church?
Has survived all of this time because as society crumbles around, the society that's not Christian doesn't have the basis, doesn't have the bedrock.
Houses are built on sinking sand.
This, though, is the best part to me.
I am sorry that we have had a generation and woke church that has done this, that has hijacked love your neighbor as yourself to mean basically never.
Never, you know, organizer.
You know, love your neighbors yourself has pacified.
Pastors have used this to pacify the pew sitters to do nothing.
You know, when the gay marriage Supreme Court decision came down, you had pastors warning about, if you're upset about that, well, maybe you're idolizing the biblical family.
Wait a second.
What?
I'm idolizing it?
And it's all, you know, it has served.
Love your neighbors yourself has been used by regime evangelicals to sanitize.
Government rhetoric and cultural wickedness.
That is true.
But you still have to love your neighbors yourself in the actual context.
Backing up just a hair.
Listen.
Reaction over and over again.
I kept saying to him, we have to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
I'm sorry that a generation of church growth consultants hijacked that to mean stand for nothing, believe in nothing, do nothing.
Except create tithing units and fake converts and mega malls in the suburbs that sit open and do nothing but gather weeds to be mowed at two o 'clock on a Tuesday while all literal hell is reeking and waving and breaking loose in the culture.
I'm sorry that that phrase got hijacked.
However, that doesn't mean God canceled it.
It is still here.
The goal of the believer is to not hear the jerkster called and they're all out of you.
That is not the goal.
Now, it may happen no matter what we do.
Because look what they did to the green tree.
And he healed his enemies.
On the cross, he said, Father, forgive them.
They know not what they do.
While we were his enemies, Christ died for us.
He healed his enemies.
He saved his enemies.
Did more for his enemies than we could ever possibly dream or hope to do.
They hung him nevertheless.
But if that happens to you, dear brother and sister, let it be because your righteousness, holiness, convicts them of their lack of their own.
Not because you fulfilled the stereotype of ourselves.
For them.
You created your own self-fulfilling prophecy.
Listen, there is no nice way.
I communicate for a living.
I'm paid fairly well.
I get hired by companies and candidates to help them communicate.
Let me just tell you, I looked.
I've done the best I could.
Maybe someone else has come up with it.
I have no way to come up with a non-offensive way to say, you're a sinner.
You want hell.
You desire hell.
You deserve hell.
And hell is where you will go unless you believe in this one singular truth in all the cosmos.
Manifested by the Word made flesh.
And if you do not, and you deny that atonement, and do not accept that grace and mercy, the hell you desire is where you will go, no matter what else you do with the rest of your life.
There is no non-offensive way for that message to be preached.
So don't try.
But don't try to automatically be as offensive as you can either.
The last generation of pastors, I want to speak specifically to pastors in this room.
The last generation of pastors was too cognizant of the crowd.
And so they catered their messages to the crowd.
And if you want real discipleship, if you really want to hear the word of God, come back on Sunday night.
In your spare time, again, when your kids would rather have family movie night.
Come back again, and then we'll actually do our jobs.
But Sunday services are for the unbelievers and the seekers.
No, they're not.
Church is a hospital for sinners.
It's for the equipping of the saints.
There's a separate office for evangelists.
The pastor is to be the teacher.
He is to disciple.
There's no twilight doubleheaders in the church.
You don't come back later for the second game and then get the really good pitching.
No!
Do your job!
That's much needed.
However, I think the challenge for the new generation that we're trying to raise up, and some of them are in this room, is that this thing right here.
He's holding up a cell phone for those of you listening.
I feel this tension, too.
The amount of notes I've gotten over the course of my career.
Yikes.
Now, what does that say?
What does it say?
Where, you know, Steve Dace getting texts from his listeners based on his show, and I haven't watched a lot of his show.
I think I need to.
But, you know, when he says, you know, he's talking theology and that sort of thing.
What does that really say about his audience, the churches that they're going to, when they have that feeling?
I mean, I personally don't have that feeling when it comes to other personalities or anything else, right?
With my own personal church.
But there are so many people that have felt that way at one time or another about personalities and that sort of thing.
And again, I think it comes from, in some cases, this idea, the third way-ism, right?
That somehow the third way, there's left and there's right, but then there's this third way that somehow it totally diminishes the physical existence, the land that we send our kids out into, that we go out into every day from the church that's surrounded by wolves, surrounded by lions.
It's like, oh, well, we're just basically over-spiritualizing everything.
Again, a way to just get people to ignore.
The wickedness of the culture and how things are getting, obviously, like self-evidently, just sicker and sicker and sicker and sicker.
And the churches are not equipping, obviously, they're not equipping the saints to go to battle the six days of week they're not in church.
That is fascinating if you think about what that's showing is a sick or anemic, generally speaking, not that there aren't good churches out there that are doing exactly what needs to be done.
There are.
But it does show, generally speaking, if he's talking theology and they're saying, hey, I'm learning more from you, well, then that would be that the church is theologically, generally speaking, the American church is theologically weak.
Which is very, very sad.
Skipping ahead to, let's see here.
We'll go right here.
Take a listen.
Because without accountability, I will become exactly like what I got into this business to stop.
And so will we all.
And that brings me back to John the Baptist.
So he started the speech.
We didn't get to this part.
We're going to run out of time.
But he started the speech talking about John the Baptist, the idea that John the Baptist was the forerunner to Christ, who said, the man who's about to come after me, I'm not even fit to tie his sandals.
And he used John the Baptist as an example of who we need to be.
So listen to this.
The same John the Baptist...
Who looked at Herod and said, you are a whoremonger, and your wife is a whore, and you're vile, and what you're doing is unrighteous, and God will judge it.
That is the same John the Baptist who said, I must decrease so that he will increase.
If you want to know how you can tell, If you are prophetically provoking people, and this is a culture, raise your hand if you don't think this culture needs prophetically provoked.
Because you're in the wrong room!
Alright?
This culture needs prophetically provoked every day, 15 times on Sunday.
And again, back to what I said at the top, I'm as competitive as they come, and I don't know about the rest of y 'all, but I like culture wars better when my side wins.
Can I get an amen on that?
That being said, What is the test with whether we're building our own brand, whether we have fallen into the trap of answering what this device wants and incentivizes?
Because let me tell you what this device does not want, the Word of God to go out.
Because nothing in trash world does.
The question is, are we able to redeem something so the Word of God will go out, whether it wants it to or not?
Because God is sovereign over trash world.
And Christ is king over all.
Now, how do we tell?
What's the fruit?
You know, there's no book of John the Baptist.
In fact, John the Baptist shows up as a key player in someone else's story.
He's a forerunner.
He's a subplot.
He's not the main event.
Even early on, when the Sanhedrin comes to him and says, Are you Elijah?
Are you the Christ?
I am a voice crying out in the wilderness.
Make a straight path for the Lord.
And one will come whose sandals I'm not even worthy of tying.
I'm nobody.
Nobody.
You can tell if you're being prophetically provoking because you're pointing people to Christ.
When Christ confronts Saul on the road to Damascus, he does not say, why are you persecuting my followers?
That's not what he says.
What does he say?
Why are you persecuting me?
You can tell if you're prophetically provoking a culture in desperate need of it if it forces them to look at Christ.
Wow.
You know, that really does make you think.
You know, there's those memes out there about, I've seen like, you know, me, you know, me typing the perfect response on social media, and then it's like, I don't know, I can't remember if it was a giraffe or something.
I don't know.
Anyway, there's something in the background, you know, kind of, and that's labeled the Holy Spirit.
I can't tell you how many times that's happened to me.
I go to tweet something or post something or whatever, and then I'm just like, I just, I can't.
I just can't.
I can't do it.
And I'm convicted, and I'm just like, this actually is not going.
Well, I don't maybe necessarily think this isn't going to point people to Christ, but there's a reason that I just, in my soul, my spirit, I'm just saying, I don't actually need to post this.
And so I might have, you know, I might have spent 10 minutes on, you know, I'm going to delete the whole thing.
All right, whatever.
Moving on with my day.
The question has got to be, when we are engaging in these cultural battles, and I'm guilty of failing at this 100%, is what I'm doing, is what I'm saying, actually pointing people to Christ, to the actual solution to so many of the problems that we face.
And that is a question that you need to ask every single day.
That all of us need to ask every single day.
If you are the subplot.
Are we the subplot?
If you are just a voice crying out in the wilderness.
If you are a forerunner.
If you're the undercard.
If you recognize I represent one whose sandals I'm not even worthy to tie.
Or, if all they talk about is you.
For a while, it'll work.
But in the end, if you make it about you, you'll fall.
And that is true for every man in this room especially.
I mentioned earlier in the panel...
So then he goes and he talks about his...
Personal struggles, how the Lord miraculously saved his marriage, his family.
Again, I encourage you to listen to all of it if you can.
But we are on a limited time schedule.
We only have an hour slot here at Ex-American News.
By the way, follow them at Ex-American News.
I'm going to skip ahead towards the end of this talk about the importance of accountability.
In all of our lives.
He said this.
And the understanding that God is God and we are not.
So my final accountability or my final suggestion for you is to seek that accountability.
Even at the end of his life, John the Baptist, he has baptized the Lord.
He recognizes the Lord in utero.
And even at the end, after all he has seen, after all he has done, he sends one of his last remaining disciples back to Christ.
He is awaiting execution in Herod's prison.
And he sends one of his final disciples back to Christ.
And he says to his cousin, are you?
John just needs one last assurance, man.
Are you the one?
Jesus doesn't rebuke him.
Doesn't say to him, how could you possibly not know?
How could John still have any doubt at all after all he has seen and done?
Instead, Jesus looks at John's disciples and says, go back, go back and tell John this.
The blind see, the deaf hear, the lame walk, and the good news is preached to the poor.
In other words, Jesus has reset the words of his very first earthly sermon when he quotes from Isaiah 61 as he comes out of the wilderness and the 40 days of battle with the enemy.
Okay.
Without accountability, we will not fulfill our mission in the kingdom of God.
Gatekeeping and accountability are not the same thing.
Just because something was done one way in another era does not mean it has to be done this way in this era.
Just because something is done in one part of the country a certain way doesn't mean it has to be done in another part of the country a certain way.
Okay, and then one last cut.
I'm sorry, I just want people to hear this.
Again, I think you should listen to the whole thing.
What was that, 5415?
We'll start it here.
And it was like nothing else was happening in this world for me.
My family didn't exist.
This earth didn't exist.
There was just me and God in this moment.
And in my spirit, I heard something I will never forget, and it broke me.
I sobbed in that corridor.
Because it's the kind of thing a loving father says to a son who needs correction.
He's talking about he was very ill and in the hospital.
And I heard, Stephen, I need apostles, not assassins.
Thank you.
And I say that to all of you.
The Lord needs apostles, not assassins.
This world has plenty of provocateurs.
Lord knows more than enough pundits.
You know what doesn't have enough of?
Priests.
Papas.
It needs that.
And I think if we take that to heart, we don't worry about the tone police.
We worry about, is this honoring and glorifying him?
If this is the last thing I say or do, and then that's it, I get called home, could I look my creator in the eye or am I have to shuffle my feet because I'm embarrassed how I ended this thing?
If we are mindful of that, then I do believe We will wake up in eternity, what Luther called the second baptism, when we rise up in eternity and we hear, well done, good and faithful servant.
And that's what I want for all of you in this room and everyone within the sound of my voice.
Thank you for joining the battle.
Thank you for getting in the fight.
But never forget, ultimately, it's for his glory, not our own.
Ultimately, we must decrease so he will increase.
We are not fit to tie his sandals.
None of us has an amount of talent he could not replace.
A platform he could not do without.
A voice he could not find an alternative to.
You're not that important.
None of us are.
And that should free you up all the more to finish the race for him.
Thank you.
Again, the full speech is incredible.
I highlighted as best I could in the limited amount of time that I have.
But, man, for a lot of reasons, it was just such a ministry to me personally, something that I feel like I definitely needed to hear.
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