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May 2, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: U.S. Institute for Peace Caught Funding Taliban!
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Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show.
Thanks so much for being with us.
My name is Paul Harrell.
This is a special edition of the Paul Harrell program coming to you on a Friday.
Good Friday.
Happy Good Friday to everybody out there.
Anyway, I mean, this is more of a laid-back format.
You guys are familiar with it.
We're once again joined by our good friend Jacob Holloway is with us.
Jacob.
Good to be here again.
It's always great to have you on, sir.
We were supposed to do this program earlier in the week.
We were actually scheduled to do it on tax day.
We didn't because you actually were hindered.
You had a blowout on your Tesla.
The last time we had you on, we were talking Teslas.
Yes.
Always check your tires, proper inflation.
That inner wear.
Yeah, so you sent this to me.
This was the photo of your tire.
And because of our previous episode where it was about Tesla terrorism and you having to look over your shoulder now because of leftists hating you because of the car that you drive, I first thought, oh my gosh, they found him.
I don't know how, but they found him and they destroyed your vehicle.
But it wasn't that, right?
No, it was literally I was on my way here.
It was my back tire.
Had a blowout.
And interestingly enough, you know, that's one of the things they don't tell you when you buy those cars is that you got to keep tires on them.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you know.
Just like, oh, that's any car.
Yeah, but it goes through tires.
It's a heavy vehicle, and it really goes through tires.
Yeah.
So I did get all new tires on my car, and I'm looking forward to that.
Tax return I might get to pay for that.
Well, that's the thing.
Speaking of taxes, this week everybody either paid the government what they owed or maybe got in on a payment plan or maybe filed an extension.
This tax day for me personally, I guess earlier in the week, I felt more like a serf, more like a peasant, I think, than ever before.
And one of the reasons for that...
I think it's because of stories like this.
As we see, Mario Naufal, who's a good follower on X, says for decades, so all this came out in February, you know, as Elon Musk was doing the Doge thing.
For decades, the U.S. Agency for International Development burned through billions of taxpayer dollars.
You know, RFK Jr. said it had been captured by the Intel oligarchs.
Now Trump and Doge are putting it into the waste, fraud, and abuse.
But if you just go and you read some of this, $7.9 million to train Sri Lankan journalists to avoid using pronouns he and she.
So that's part of exporting the rainbow, which has been America's chief...
Export, really, is LGBTQ issues.
$20 million for a Sesame Street show in Iraq.
$10 million in food aid that ended up with Al-Qaeda linked terrorists.
$5 million to EcoHealth Alliance, which funded the bat virus research in Wuhan.
$5.5 million...
For LGBT activism in Uganda, $25 million to promote green transportation in Georgia, $6 million to make the Internet more feminist, $1.2 million for a D.C. church to build a 440-seat auditorium.
Even worse, USAID's climate plan proposed a $150 billion spending spree to push radical environmental policies.
It says, For years, USAID thought they could waste taxpayer money with no consequences.
Trump and Doge put a stop to it.
So the thing is, like, I mean, as we went, you know, as you go to file taxes or do whatever you're going to do, you're just like, wow, like, the government is wasting all this money.
There's...
With the USAID, we found paper trails to NGOs or Democrats or the Uniparty as well.
And it's like, why do they need our money for?
Why do they need my money?
I don't really think we're funding the government.
I don't know where the money goes.
That's the crazy thing, is you can't really audit it.
It's not an apportioned tax.
So there's no way, once the government has your money, to even know where it's going to.
You don't know what they're spending on.
They run huge budget deficits anyway.
That turns into inflation, basically monetary inflation, because they have to issue treasury bonds to issue debt.
Yeah, and we're going to talk about that here in a minute.
So why pay taxes?
Why don't you just make treasury bonds?
Yeah, that's right.
But you actually got a threatening letter from the IRS.
Yeah, that's why I'm here today, and I sent this to you.
And this is the whole reason I'm really upset.
They say that you owe them $213.
Yeah, you know, and it started off as I owed them $50, and then they tacked on like $123 in interest.
Yeah.
You know?
And then it finally found me and invoiced me because they didn't have my most updated address.
Yeah.
And you think that's not the thing I'm thinking about when I move across the country is, boy, I've got to make sure the IRS and the government knows where I live so that they can invoice me my taxes from two years ago.
And they were sending it to my old address.
I guess that's my fault for not communicating to the government to ask permission that I can move between state lines.
I didn't check in with mama and daddy before I moved.
So I want to apologize to the IRS.
I was just a little too free, taking that freedom a little too far.
And now I've got to pay my freedom tax.
What does the letter actually say?
Is it threatening in any way?
It is threatening.
It says...
Final balance due reminder, which I didn't know I had a balance.
It says notice to intent to seize your property or rights to property, which I find very interesting because I don't actually have a whole lot of property.
Right.
So I'm wondering what they will seize.
What are they going to take from you?
I guess they're going to take your very life.
Yes, I guess so.
Over $213.
It is.
I mean, the way that the government talks to you, too.
I mean, they send some stuff in certified mail.
You get some certified mail, and then you're like, oh, you know, what is this?
And then you open it up, and it's like, oh, the government wants to seize my property.
That's great news.
That was the one thing I needed today between work and all the other things I'm doing, trying to file my taxes normally, which is a big, like, hoopla.
You know, that's a whole thing.
You know, like, I got time for that.
Ain't nobody got time for that.
I think somebody's...
Let's see, I guess a black lady has made that phrase famous.
Ain't nobody got time for that!
Ain't nobody got time for filing taxes!
All that.
I got like a whole life, man.
You know, I got a social life.
I'm a person.
You know, a real person.
I'm not an NPC.
I don't have time really to do my taxes.
Just the number on the back of that, you know, the number on the front of your social security card.
That's essentially what we are.
You know, there's people who like doing their taxes.
There's like people like that, like sitting down and itemizing stuff.
You know, what's funny is I think there is a psychological component for all the talk that Trump made with the tariffs and being able to abolish the IRS.
We'll talk about it here in a minute.
You know, I've thought about.
There are people that really probably psychologically love to be, you know, be told by the government that they're okay.
You know, they love to, you know, there's a psychological component there that where you, you know, I don't know, some sort of Stockholm syndrome where you start to love your captor, you know?
I guess so.
I mean, I don't get it.
You know, I've never liked any of this.
And then, you know, when they send you crap like this, you know, and it's like it comes out of nowhere.
And this is how the government communicates to me, is stuff like this.
I mean, look at this lovely publication they sent me called The IRS Collection Process.
Just in case I'm a total moron and I don't understand what they're about to do, I could sit here and read while I'm going to the bathroom about how many ways the government can screw me.
And it's really, it's a great publication.
I really love this, by the way, IRS.
Government, you want to send me any more of your lovely publications, I'll put it by the toilet and read it while I'm relieving myself so I can think about life.
Let me show you this.
Let's take this back to the screen here.
Libs of TikTok breaking.
More than 21,000 IRS agents have reportedly accepted the Trump administration's recent offer to resign.
So there were reports a few weeks ago that Trump had plans to, so there's around 90,000 IRS employees.
I think he wants to get rid of 45,000 of them.
That's more people than live in this town.
That's like the entire city of Jonesboro works for the IRS and you'd still need an extra 20,000 people.
I mean, that's a lot of folks.
Yeah, it is.
It's insane.
But, you know, and I don't know.
I mean, we have these, we have, again, if you look at that list, though, if you look at that list that we did, that was just the tip of the iceberg.
I mean, billions and billions of dollars going to these, you know, these pet Democrat projects or pet Republican projects.
And then we're just supposed to, you know, ignore all of that.
I mean, literally the government has these policies in place that show that they hate the people.
And yet we're supposed to pony up all this money, whether it's $213 or whether it's thousands of dollars.
I'm certainly filling the love.
But Musk has found that they have these magic money machines that he says he's found...
I think he said 13...
And I've never even heard of this.
I mean, we all know that they can create money out of thin air, but Musk says that he found in several different departments what he calls magic money machines that create money out of thin air and then have the ability to send it to any account they want to send it to.
Wow, I need one of them.
With no checks or balances whatsoever.
Where do you get a magic money machine?
I don't know, but I mean, so if that's the case...
And, you know, everybody...
Look, I'm all for this trade war with China.
Like, I have no problem with it.
But I have said for years that, you know, we complain that China doesn't play by the rules, the WTF, and they deflate their currency.
They manipulate their currency.
Well...
They've been doing that for years.
But we do the same thing.
Certainly.
If we're the world's reserve currency, and we can just print the money that we say everybody else needs to have in their vaults in order for their currency to be worth something, I mean, you know, how is it not the same thing?
I think it's very similar to the same thing.
That's what I don't understand either is maybe the government just wants to hurt us and just ruin your life because it seems like the IRS and the whole tax code is just to frustrate people.
And to really, you know, and you got to go in there, you got to tell them all about your personal life, every little thing, you owned a business, and what you did that year, and where you moved, and where you worked.
I mean, I don't even tell a woman that much information when I go on a first date, you know?
I mean, shoot, the IRS ain't buying me dinner.
I don't even get a tax return these days.
So, I mean, it's quite exploitative.
It's very abusive.
It's quite abusive.
Well, okay, so we're going to listen to some of these clips here in a minute of Donald Trump or Howard Lutnick claiming that, hey, maybe the end goal is to end the IRS.
I'm not going to hold my breath, but man, I will just say this.
The fact that there's anybody in a major political party in America, and now the President of the United States, even saying something like that.
I mean, back in the day, you would never have heard a Democrat or Republican ever mention the idea that the IRS could...
Just like Ron Paul and a couple of Libertarians would bring it up.
And it always made sense to me.
IRS is one of the most abusive organizations.
I'm glad you brought up Ron Paul.
You always loved to hear Ron Paul talk.
He would always come up with these...
They would sound great.
But he was always made fun of.
He was always mocked.
When he ran for president, he was up on the debate stage.
People were like, all right, well, we've got to let the libertarian talk now.
But he was all about ending the Fed and abolishing the IRS and talked about the inflationary state of our currency.
Well, it's just, you know, this isn't the kind of thing that your government should be doing to you unless you live in an authoritarian dictatorship or country that, you know, really hates their citizens.
Sending people demand letters with no arbitration process for this.
What if I didn't have the money?
What would the IRS do to me then?
What if I was someone living between paychecks and trying to make ends meet?
$200 could be all of my groceries, my medication, gas money, all that stuff.
I mean, there's people who are really hurt by this and it destroys their lives.
My goodness, I mean, it really makes you hate the government.
And if people didn't already not like the government, then when you get stuff like this, it makes you really hate the government and distrust them because this is just meant to hurt people.
I don't think the IRS is meant to help anyone.
It doesn't seem to be helping anyone.
And what is it doing?
Okay, so here's the real.
I think this is a perfect time to cut.
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So, this is the president of El Salvador.
By the name of Naib Bukele.
Now, he's been in the news recently.
He was in the Oval Office on Monday.
And he's, you know, we have this El Salvadorian, or he has this El Salvadorian prison where he recently shipped a purported MS-13 gang member.
I think he is an MS-13 gang member.
The left says he's not.
They call him.
The AP says he's just a Maryland man.
But they have released documents from Maryland identifying him as MS-13.
The Tennessee Star also did a recent investigation, or they've uncovered, that he was pulled over.
This is what's crazy.
This MS-13 gang member that they're trying to get out of this El Salvadorian prison, he was back during the Biden administration.
He was driving in Tennessee, got pulled over by a Tennessee Highway Patrol, was suspected of human trafficking, had people with him.
And they call the FBI.
The FBI says, let him go.
He was on a terrorist watch list.
They say, let him go.
That's the guy they're trying to get.
Tennessee Star did some good work on that.
But anyway, Bukele in the Oval Office, the press says, are you going to release this guy, you know, because they're going this narrative.
He's just a Maryland man, you know, just innocent Maryland guy, you know, just, you know, swept off and put in an El Salvadorian prison.
And he throws cold water on it.
He says, no, he's an El Salvadorian citizen.
He was here illegally.
Even though there was a court that tried to stop his deportation order.
It is what it is.
I don't think that guy's going anywhere soon.
But that's why the guy's in the news.
But because it was also tax day, this popped up in my feed earlier in the week, he gave a speech at CPAC, of all places.
The president of El Salvador gave a speech at CPAC, and it was...
It was really incredible.
And you talk about like a psychological psy-op against the American people about who's actually funding the government.
Listen to what this guy has to say because it really kind of totally turns everything up on its head.
For instance, the financial situation of the United States.
When I talk to my conservative friends right here, they always tell me that the problem is high taxes.
But they're wrong.
Of course.
High taxes are extremely high here in the United States.
I give you that.
You're right in that.
But that's not the real problem.
The real problem is not the high taxes themselves, but the fact that they are not even really funding the government.
But even those high taxes, higher than a lot of places in the world, but even those taxes are really funding the government.
So who's financing the government?
Government is financed by treasury bonds.
Paper.
And who buys the treasury bonds?
Mostly the Fed.
And how does the Fed buy them?
By printing money.
But what backing does the Fed have for that money being printed?
The treasury bonds themselves.
So basically, you finance the government by printing money out of thin air.
Someone could ask, someone could ask, well, so if the government can print the limited amounts of money out of thin air, why do they collect taxes?
I mean a theory would
That makes sense, right?
If they can put in unlimited amounts of money, what would they need taxes for?
The answer is simple, but it's very shocking.
The real problem is that you pay high taxes only to uphold the illusion that you are funding the government, which you are not.
It's shocking, but it's true.
The government is funded by money printing, paper backed with paper, a bubble that will inevitably burst.
The situation is even worse than it seems because if most Americans and the rest of the world were to become aware of this farce, confidence in your currency would be lost.
The dollar would fall and the Western civilization with it.
If the next president of the United States doesn't make the necessary policies and structural changes, sooner or later that bubble will burst.
There's still time.
You don't have to make the same mistakes we did in the 60s and the 70s.
You can still jump before the water boils.
That's pretty wild.
It is wild.
I mean, and the whole idea of just dropping this bomb of like, you only pay taxes.
So that the illusion continues.
It's all fake.
That makes sense, really.
I mean, when you do your taxes, it's a guessing game.
I don't understand why you even have to prepare or file anything.
I mean, the IRS already knows what you owe.
Why don't they just send you an invoice?
Why do I got to go to H&R Block or TurboTax or any of this stuff?
I got to go in there and play this guessing game.
It's like the price is right.
Just tell me what I owe and invoice me the first time.
The reason that they don't do that is because, and some people know this or don't, but when you sign that tax return, that's an affidavit.
I mean, now, once you sign it, you're saying, this is how much I owe.
You've now sworn to the government that this is how much I owe.
That's crazy.
And so, now they've got you.
Now they can take you to court.
Now they can make your life a living hell because that's what you're actually signing.
The other scenario puts the burden on them, and you can maybe challenge it.
You can dispute if they actually send a bill.
Like, you know, if I pay my city or county taxes, I do so because I get a bill in the mail.
And they actually screwed up last year in my personal taxes.
They said I owed something ridiculous, like $2,000 or something.
And it was like a blanket.
Many people got this wrong bill, right?
And you were able to say, hey, and they're like, yeah, we made a mistake.
You actually owe, I don't know what it was.
I think I pay city-county, it's like $120 a year or something for taxes from where I live.
That's the ideal thing.
But they do it for a reason.
I mean, they do it to be a tyranny on the people.
And again, they do it so if you have made a mistake, you've now signed an affidavit, which now you're criminally liable for.
It just blows my mind, man.
It just blows my mind.
It's like playing some kind of crazy game on us.
You know?
Just to kind of mess with our heads.
And it's like a weird, demented game to file your taxes.
It's not straightforward.
It doesn't make any sense.
I don't have time to read through the tax code.
I'm not a tax lawyer.
I don't know what even they really expect out of me every year.
It's just a big thing.
Why is it April 15th?
Why is taxed?
Why?
That is such an arbitrary date.
Like, make it the beginning of the year.
Make it Christmas.
Please don't make it Christmas.
No, I mean, we might as well, you know.
I mean, just really, you know, to shove it in our faces.
And, you know, it's just, I'm tired of this game.
I'm tired of playing the IRS game.
Please get me out of this game because I'm done with this.
And the fact that I have to do this for the rest of my life, I mean, they're really incentivizing you to do nothing.
They're really incentivizing you to just sit back and do nothing and make no money.
Because if you try and make money in this country, you try and come on up in the world, then the IRS is going to screw you and the government is going to come and destroy your life.
Because you can't guess what you owe them.
I mean, that's wild.
And that's the thing.
That's what's so shocking about the Bukele statement.
And he's not the first person to say something like that.
But to hear it articulated by a guy from El Salvador who sees it for what it is.
You pay high taxes to support the illusion that you're actually funding the government.
And because that's an illusion, I think that's one of the other reasons we don't have representation.
Rush Limbaugh famously said...
If the founders thought taxation without representation was bad, what would they think of taxation with representation?
How it's almost worse today than it was.
But, of course, we don't have the representation.
We really don't.
And I think it's because...
You know, of this illusion that we fund the government.
So, I mean, the whole thing is just fake.
It actually goes back 100 years ago.
You know, it goes back to all these amendments to the Constitution around the turn of the century.
And, you know, when they were amending the Constitution for the 16th Amendment, 17th Amendment, 18th, 19th, 20th Amendment, you know, that also IRS, you know, is in those, well, the income tax,
which they said the government had the power or didn't have the power to do and we needed a constitutional amendment.
I don't know who voted for that constitutional amendment by the way.
I don't know
Well, there's people that claim that it was fraudulently ratified.
I have no idea, man.
But the fact that anybody would come up and support that and be like, we need to amend the Constitution to tax ourselves more is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.
I think there's some sovereign citizens or people that have claimed that the amendment, they've tried to argue in court when the IRS takes in the court.
No, they won't let you do that.
No, no, no.
Those people are in jail.
Oh, yeah, I know.
That's the thing.
It's like, this isn't legitimate.
This government invoice isn't legitimate.
What it is, it is a threat to destroy my life.
Yes.
So it's just tyranny.
It's just straight tyranny.
And when you ask Americans, you know, the media is always like, oh, Americans don't support the government and Americans are, you know, don't trust anyone.
We don't trust our leaders.
Well, why don't I trust my leaders?
Why should I trust my leaders?
There isn't anything to trust.
Yeah.
It's all just this abusive stuff that they do, and then they – the media and all the people and the – what do you call it?
Like the intelligentsia of America are shocked that normal Americans don't trust the government.
Well, there's a reason why.
I mean you keep lying and lying and lying about things.
Like I'd be a fool to trust the government.
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I guess around February, Jacob, we had the news that there was these whispers that the tariffs that were coming were going to be used to replace the IRS, to turn the IRS into the ERS, the External Revenue Service,
I guess.
And so we have over here, well, this is one of the many times Howard Lutnick has gone on cable and has said something like this.
Donald Trump announces the external revenue service and his goal is very simple.
To abolish, his goal is to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and let all the outsiders pay.
I mean, this is someone who is focused on America.
Let's drive down our waste for an abuse.
I'll give you an example.
Cruise ships.
You ever see a cruise ship with an American flag on the back?
They have flags of, like, Liberia or Panama.
None of them pay taxes.
None of them pay taxes.
Every super tanker, none pays taxes.
Alcohol.
All foreign alcohol.
No taxes.
This is going to end under Donald Trump, and those taxes are going to be paid, and Americans' tax rates are going to come down.
That's what Donald Trump wants to do.
Balance our budget and cut our taxes.
I mean, imagine a Democratic senator going against that.
What planet are these people on?
So, react to that if you want.
Well, I mean, I hope so.
You know, Mr. President, if you're listening, please do that.
Please do that.
You will make a lot of people happy.
You will change people's lives if you do that.
So this week he was interviewed by a Mexican or Hispanic reporter, and she straight up asked him, like, is there a chance that the money from the tariffs will be so great?
Or no, that's actually Trump's quote.
But, well, let's just listen to it.
are going to replace the income tax.
Will the tariffs replace the income tax?
He says there's a chance that it will replace.
Which, I mean, that would be the biggest transfer of freedom back to the people since the American Revolution.
Yeah.
I mean, our country was founded as a tax rebellion against Parliament, against the British Parliament.
And, you know, our ancestors fought against taxes.
This country was founded on a tax rebellion, an armed tax rebellion.
So I don't know where we lost our historical and cultural underpinnings, the foundations of the American Revolution, but our forefathers recognized what taxation was and how tyrannical that is.
My goodness, you know, why are we allowing this to happen to us?
Why are we having no spine as Americans to stand up against this?
And we just take it every year laying down.
And if now is the time for conservatives and everyone to speak up and voice this to Donald Trump and the Republicans, if they can change this, that would be...
That would just be revolutionary.
Well, and some people might think it's a pipe dream.
And, you know, they say that we're just being totally ignorant and, you know, listening to what these officials are saying.
But I, you know, and then you've got that contingent on the right that's like, oh, you know, Rand Paul was all against these tariffs last week when the market took a dip.
You know, you've got some of these kind of the traditional economic intelligentsia in the Republican Party, the free marketers or whatever, when we don't really have a free market.
Because the other countries, you know, they won't address that question.
If the tariffs are so bad, how come other countries are doing it?
Why can't we do it?
But I think the bigger, I guess to me the bigger point is, I think it's a fear of really demonstrating how illegitimate the government is.
Because if he were to do this, like let's say three years, let's say a year from now, let's say a year from now, he can actually say like...
No income taxes on anybody making $150,000 or less, which is something else Lutnick has said, that that's the goal.
If you can balance the budget, anyone making $150,000 or less pays nothing.
That would expose the government that we've lived under our entire lives and our parents' lives as being totally, really illegitimate.
That, wait, we could have done this the whole time?
Yeah.
And how many people stress out, you know?
Once a year or they stress out all year like I've got to put food on the table.
I can't pay my taxes and yet we didn't have to live this way.
I mean it would expose the entire thing as being a total scam and I mean you know the politicians would.
It's about time.
Yeah.
It's about time.
It's about time because nobody nobody at least that I know of.
I mean, there's a handful of people that are still delusional, but nobody that I really know of or talk to trusts or believes in this system anymore.
So they're just maintaining an illusion for sure, but everybody sees through it.
It's the emperor wears no clothes kind of syndrome, and it's only the people in the media.
And the politicians and a couple of, like you said, the intelligentsia that gets promoted and promoted and promoted in the mainstream that actually still believes in this most screwed up system.
Because most people have been done with this for their entire lives.
when they realized that they had to pay taxes and how much we pay in taxes on everything.
You know, it really, you can't, it's just one of those things that you can't fathom how many people have had their lives ruined and destroyed and how much wealth has been soaked out of our pockets.
And, you know, who else would spend the money better than yourself?
And we're giving it to strangers, to politicians, to a black hole, basically.
And it's a black hole that serves what purpose?
We don't know.
Half of the government services that we get don't even work anyway and are failing.
No, I mean, it's been a lie for a long time.
And that's why I'm, you know, even though I'm a libertarian, I'm still nationalist.
And so I'm like a nationalist libertarian because I would support the tariffs.
I think Trump should come down heavy on the tariffs and renegotiate our trade deals and anything that will benefit the American people, regular people like us.
And yeah –
We need to correct our trade deficits.
It's also a national security problem.
You talk about the steel that we import.
Our military is going to be based off of steel that could be flawed from some other.
And then if you think about the chips and stuff with China, I saw a story earlier in the week about how in Trump's first term, he banned certain...
Microchips that were found in equipment.
And I'm butchering this story.
It was found in equipment that's used in, like, power substations, you know, connected to our electrical grid.
Well, when Joe Biden got in, he reversed it.
So he had a ban on it because they found out there was a back door.
They found out literally there was a back door China had in these.
And so four years of Biden, this equipment is...
Continue to come in, and who knows where it is in the electrical grid.
So there's huge national security implications that we don't make our own stuff, and we can't actually defend ourselves if we need to be.
And COVID really showed us that, too, that the supply chain is extremely volatile.
Yeah, whatever happened to Made in America?
I know we harp on that a lot, but...
It seems like they just chased all the companies and businesses and anybody who does any manufacturing at all out of the country.
They don't want people here making anything.
We've done everything we can to destroy industry in this country.
We've literally de-industrialized the United States and turned it into a service industry, an IT industry, basically.
That's it.
We've got tech and service.
And if you're not in tech, then you're not making money.
And you're going to be in service, in the service industry.
And that's really bad.
I mean, it affects our economy, our jobs, our trade deficit, everything.
So we need to bring these companies back.
These companies need to be penalized in the hardest way possible to bring these factories back.
Look at General Electric over here on G Street.
Look at General Electric.
How long have they been gone?
Since the 1990s when they shipped off that?
I didn't even know they were.
Well, my neighbors used to work there.
And they worked for GE down there on G Street.
And that provided a lot of jobs for this town.
But I think they shipped out to Asia somewhere in the 1990s.
They shut down that factory, and that factory is still sitting there.
And, you know, what would it take to bring GE back to Jonesboro, Arkansas?
You know, probably nothing.
I don't know what.
But, yeah, these companies really screwed us when they left.
And it's kind of malicious, I feel like, to take away all of our industry and manufacturing.
There's no good jobs in America for working class people.
It's either you're going to be in tech and you're going to make a lot of money, and that's reserved for very few people, and they give most of that away to foreigners anyway because Americans can't really fill those jobs, and that's a whole other conversation we need to have.
But then, you know, or you're going to be like...
Pretty much everyone else in my generation, for a very few of us, we got some middle-class jobs, but then everybody's still in the service industry.
That's the only jobs.
They're waiting tables and working in restaurants.
They're in their 30s.
They totally failed.
Now they're failing a second generation.
They failed the millennials.
Now they're going to fail Gen Z. That's why Gen Z, according to polling, is set to be the most conservative generation ever.
According to some polls.
I don't know if I believe that.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Well, I know.
I agree with you.
But, you know, Tucker's talked about this as well.
You raise an interesting point about like an average working class.
Let's just take an average working class man.
Can he find a job where he makes more than his wife?
And it's increasingly hard.
And Tucker, this was, I think, back when he was on Fox or maybe it was in an interview, he said.
He said what's interesting is feminism has increased and everything else, and I talk about living in the guy knockers all the time.
But women still, for whatever reason, they still don't really want to marry a guy that makes less than them.
And if you look at, let's take a university town where now that's one of the main employers, and then healthcare, which is another main employer.
So those are jobs that predominantly employ women.
So they can go and make a decent amount of money, whereas there just aren't as many jobs where a man can go and make more than what a university would pay or a nurse would make.
And they're talking about how this is destroying specifically white America.
Because the marriages aren't happening because of that income, whatever the psychological reason is or whatever, You know, you're having more out-of-wedlock births.
So it actually has a—it actually is hurting.
The deindustrialization of this country actually is another contributing factor to the destruction of the nuclear family, which I think is by design as well.
Certainly, certainly.
And, yeah, you know, they've been pushing this stuff for decades now, and it's finally—it's paying off in the worst way possible.
And, yeah, it's just completely destroying the entire fabric of Western civilization and our society and everything it was built on.
And what's sad is when you throw men under the bus, and I appreciate the ladies for sure.
Of course.
I want to see them succeed and be very successful.
And there's a lot of really great female leaders in business and society.
But to throw the men under the bus in your society...
And leave them underemployed or unemployed or struggling financially, you would be basically destroying your entire workforce.
And that's one of the contributing factors, I think, is why the polls are showing Gen Z people are going to be more conservative.
It's because they are rejecting.
They know that they've been lied to.
They know that the men especially, they've been told, They're the problem, and they realize, actually, no, we're the solution, and that's why they're done with it.
It's chilling.
They've been trying to destroy men for years, and I think it starts in the public educational system of really trying to domesticate men.
And, you know, because boys like to play and do things.
And I used to get in trouble all the time in school, man.
You know, because I just wanted to go outside and play.
And you know what?
You're fortunate.
And you're fortunate you didn't get, like, you know...
ADHD medication.
Oh, they did.
They did all that to me.
They said I had ADHD and they tried to give me Rillin and all that.
My parents had to fight it.
It was a whole dramatic thing.
I was just a little boy.
I just wanted to go outside and play.
I didn't want to sit in a building all day.
Men and women learn differently, too.
They really did everything to destroy people's creative spirit and free will when they were young.
And it's producing a society of people who won't stand up for themselves.
And it's really, really sad because, you know, you need men to be leaders.
And you need to train your men to be strong leaders.
And they've been telling men for a long time that's toxic masculinity.
And now that's just absolutely unraveling our society.
And it is sad.
It is sad because I see a lot of guys who are just so lost.
You see them and they're lost.
They have no purpose.
And they're out there playing.
A whole generation of people playing video games.
An entire generation of men.
Unmarried and playing video games with no jobs or underemployed or service industry jobs.
This is absolutely a crisis and I would also...
Say to the Republicans and President Trump and our political leadership in class that can do anything about this.
This is a national emergency at this point.
You're basically dealing with a country with a population that's going to be unable to take care of itself and make any money or be productive economically at all.
And then they give all the great jobs in this country to foreigners.
I mean, it's just everything to screw us.
And then the cherry on top is the IRS.
Just in case you didn't make money, they're going to penalize you for it.
All those psyops are trying to raise you to just be a good peasant surf taxpayer.
That's what it's for.
When you were sitting here talking about me, you were talking about...
These guys that don't have anything to do, so they're playing video games.
By the way, in a video game, especially the video games now, you build stuff.
That's what they're doing.
I think they're playing these video games because it's a way to fulfill this urge of building a kingdom for yourself.
Which is just, that is what is in men to go out and do.
But because there's so little opportunity, and some of it's by choice, some of it's getting sucked into this digital world.
But yeah, we've built this prison that we're living in ourselves.
It's wild.
I will say this, 1 Thessalonians 4.11.
Now, concerning brotherly love, you have no need for anyone to write to you, for you yourself have been taught by God to love one another, for that is indeed what you are doing to all the brothers throughout Macedonia.
But we urge you, brothers, to do this more and more, and to aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and dependent on no one.
This work with your hands, this Christian goal of how to live, is, I think, Yeah,
it certainly is.
And I've been involved in agriculture and gardening and all of that for years, most of my life.
And that's some of the most fulfilling stuff I can do.
Sadly, I was forced into tech to work in front of a computer for corporations as a contractor because I needed to make more money.
And do I enjoy that?
No, I don't.
That's why I started my own company.
But, you know, that's a little different.
You know, it's not necessarily working with your hands, but it is a creative endeavor.
Yeah, you're building something.
And you're building something.
And that's been very...
I'm trying to build this program, you know?
Yeah, they don't want us building anything, apparently.
That you can call your own.
Yeah, yeah.
It is a form of enslavement.
You're right.
No doubt.
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I completely agree with you about this slavery comment.
I mean, and again, as I filed my taxes this week, it's like...
It literally, because of all the waste that's been out there, and because all the conspiracy theorists have been proven right, every government stereotype that you have ever had in your life is true.
Seems to be.
And it's infuriating.
And yet, they've got magic money machines.
They're printing money.
They do it with the Treasury bonds.
And yet, we've got to pony up what is a lot of money to us.
And yet, they're just giving it away to their friends.
And they've been caught doing it.
Will people be let out in handcuffs?
That's the other thing.
We know what's going on now.
And will Pam Bondi and the DOJ actually start arresting these people?
And even if it leads to Republicans who have been enriching themselves by enslaving the people.
Yeah, I mean, it's about time for us to take our country back, is what I think.
And if we don't fight now, this is only going to get worse.
And as much as I would love to think and hope that electing Trump as president will solve some of these problems, he can't do it alone.
The system around him, we've seen, is completely corrupt.
I don't have any trust in Congress or the federal government.
You know, and at this point, why should we expect any kind of, you know, efficiency in our government or accountability, basic accountability?
And what you really see, you know, they've been telling us for years when we were in school, they said, oh, this is a democracy, it's a republic.
You know, you elect your leaders and all of that.
And I think what I'm really starting to understand as an adult is a lot of that was just a lie.
They lied to us.
This isn't a free country.
It was maybe at one time a free country, but not really in my lifetime.
It has become more tyrannical in my lifetime since I've been an adult.
And I don't really consider myself a free citizen anymore of a free country.
It's turning into a situation where I become a subject of a dictatorship.
And we have no political recourse against all of this corruption and fraud and abuse, even though we have elections and we're supposed to be a free people.
And if we're really a free people, I'll take a page out of Civil Disobedience, Henry David Thoreau.
It's time for us to really start taking action, and Civil Disobedience might be the next wave to hit.
If things don't get better...
Americans are going to go in the streets and change things.
Because when you take all of our money away, you take our economic opportunities away, and you try and destroy our lives.
And basically turn us into nothing.
You know, people still have dreams.
And when that hits reality, that, you know, they're not actually going to get to see their dreams in life.
They're not even going to have a family or get married or own a house.
It really starts to hit people when they get in their 30s and 40s just how screwed up all this is.
You're going to have a country full of malcontent people.
And as much as the elites think that they control us and they've got the AI and algorithms and the robots and all that stuff that's going to control us, you don't really control everything yet.
Y 'all really don't control everything yet.
You're overplaying your hands and you're up against a country of people who still think they're free.
And at some point that is going to hit our reality.
Where you're outnumbered, and the elite are outnumbered.
And at some point, we will take this back.
And I don't like...
To say these kinds of things, but civil disobedience may be the next course of action against the government because they've really pushed us into a corner.
And I hope that Donald Trump and the Republicans do something about this because they need to relieve the pressure valves at this point.
The country, even though Donald Trump was elected and that was hopeful, the country is on the precipice of complete destruction and people can't make money and have jobs and have families.
And you're really destroying the entire society and civilization.
And not to expect people to rebel against that is absolutely arrogance, elitism, and they'll find out a really hard way about what happens in history when this happens.
You wonder how many people are actually going to not file at all this year.
I've heard more and more people saying, I'm just not going to file.
Yesterday on the program, like 13 years ago, was the BLM standoff with the Bundys over their cattle?
And we played that video.
It was a mainstream media coverage of it.
But it was incredible.
Like, to go back and watch that.
And I remember watching that real time.
I thought, oh, wow.
Like, the BLM backed off.
They left.
They let them free.
Now, then they harassed the Bundys, the whole family, for, you know, a bunch of other stuff afterwards.
They ended up getting to destroy them eventually.
Yeah, there was unarmed.
Like, there were armed people on both sides.
The BLM had snipers.
And then the Resistance had snipers.
And they were like, this is going to pop off, and I thought it was, but it was really the value of the Second Amendment as well, of, well, it was just the potential for violence, and the government backed down under the Obama administration.
So, to your point, you know, will people quit filing taxes?
I mean, if you see all this waste, fraud, and abuse, then again, you've got the IRS that can write you a letter and, you know, make your life a living hell.
Yeah, it is just...
They're playing with fire.
I've got to get your reaction on this.
I've got to get your reaction on this.
Last time we had you on the show, we talked a little bit about war and how Trump has the potential to destroy any kind of peace legacy he has.
Will he start another war in the Middle East?
I've been asking the question, how do you normalize relations with Russia and also start a war with Iran?
Doesn't make any sense.
This week we got the news from the New York Times, if you believe it.
Trump seems to have confirmed it.
We're going to listen to that.
That Tulsi Gabbard, J.D. Vance, Pete Hegseth, even Susie Wiles went against Netanyahu's wishes to bomb Iran with the United States assistance.
It's a huge story, and if it's true, I would say that those people, like Hegseth, Vance, you know, a lot of people put a lot of faith in them to not start another war, including Donald Trump himself.
I want to get your reaction to this.
This is from yesterday in the Oval Office where Trump is asked about this New York Times story and then I'll get your reaction.
And they said the attack is what?
I wouldn't say waved off.
I'm not in a rush to do it because I think that Iran has a chance to have a great country and to live happily without death.
And I'd like to see that.
That's my first option.
If there's a second option, I think it would be very bad for Iran.
And I think Iran is wanting to talk.
I hope they're wanting to talk.
It's going to be very good for them if they do.
I'd like to see Iran thrive in the future, do fantastically well.
I know the Iranian people, they're incredible people.
Always have been very smart, very energetic, very successful people.
And I don't want to do anything that's going to hurt anybody.
I really don't.
But Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.
It's pretty simple.
It's really simple.
We're not looking to take their industry.
We're not looking to...
Yeah, that's wild.
It's wild because...
I mean, does that not reflect the main opinion of every normal, rational person when it comes to the idea of taking life and starting a war?
It's like, he's...
He's saying, I don't want to kill anybody.
Thank God.
Thank God.
You know, I mean, it does vindicate supporting Donald Trump when he makes statements like this.
You never know.
You never know what he's going to say.
But we could wake up tomorrow and them dropping bombs.
They could be dropping bombs tomorrow, but it does at least appear that for now he's trying to not drop bombs.
Well, you know, and they make Donald Trump out to be this crazy guy in the media, and he's not.
He's trying to stop World War III.
You know, if he was totally unhinged.
We would have a war by now, but Donald Trump's probably one of the coolest heads that we've ever had as president in a long time that would stop a war.
I mean, 20 years ago, that was the Democrat position, by the way.
Yeah, I remember it.
It's nuts.
I remember it.
I remember it.
I remember being in the anti-war left and the peace protests and all against the Iraq war.
And I really thought that Obama was going to go to war with Iran right around the end of his presidency.
And I was shocked that we escaped that because he was going up against Syria.
And I thought when we were going to overthrow Assad that we were going to go to war with Iran.
He wanted to bomb Damascus.
Yeah.
Called that off.
And so President Trump is doing a good thing.
He's going to take flack for this, but, you know, I would say, Mr. President, keep standing up for peace, you know, because a war, this is going to turn, any war now will turn global.
Yep.
Immediately.
Well, and I don't think you can have peace in Russia and Ukraine unless you have peace everywhere at this point, because Iran's the proxy.
We don't want World War III.
Nobody wants it.
We didn't vote for that.
I want to remind the President and the Republicans in Congress and all of them, we didn't vote for that.
And thank you, Mr. President, for representing the will of your constituents.
Yeah, I mean...
That's the main reason I voted for him.
I thought he was, obviously, for a lot of other reasons, but I was like, well, Trump in his first term didn't start any new wars.
He threw some bombs here and there, but he didn't start a new war where there's dead Americans in the Middle East.
And so I don't want a war with Iran, but you know who will be upset?
He may take some flack.
You said he may take some flack for it.
Yeah, from people like Mark Levin, who...
You know, all they can think about is getting involved in another war, and they want to use the U.S. to do it.
And the neoconservatives are really out of power at this point, and I would continue to urge Republican primary voters to...
Continue to clear the neoconservatives out of the party and try and bring in more of the MAGA populists as much as possible.
And I think you were actually just talking about that with what was going on with Mr. Lindsey Graham.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yesterday I interviewed Mark Lynch, who's primarying Lindsey Graham.
And he's actually funding his own campaign, gave himself $5 million.
People like Lindsey Graham have got to go.
100%.
Yeah, we got real populist underpinnings happening in this country.
And Donald Trump, I think, is the first of many, I hope, of politicians of his stature.
I don't know if we'll ever get someone like him again for a long time.
But thank God we still have some real leaders in this country because we would be – I don't think we could have survived another inept presidency.
I think this country was coming apart right at the seams, man.
And we're on the verge.
We could save it.
We could save it.
We could save it now.
And I want to put that in the president's mind that you got an opportunity to save this country, sir.
So, you know, we're all here to support you and help you in that.
Jacob Holloway, man, thank you so much.
It's great.
It was another great conversation.
I always appreciate it.
It's great to have you on.
It was a lot of fun.
Can't wait to come back.
Folks, Good Friday, where we remember the death of Jesus Christ.
And on Sunday, Resurrection Sunday or Easter.
We celebrate his resurrection.
So this is a reminder.
I just want to say have a happy Easter, happy resurrection week.
And, of course, every Sunday we celebrate the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
This is just my weekly reminder.
If you don't go to church, go to church.
Find a church that preaches the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
And, anyway, Jacob Holloway, thank you again, sir.
We appreciate it.
We all have a happy Easter as well.
All right, folks.
That's all the time that we have.
Unless I'm providentially hindered, I'm going to be back here.
Wishing you a happy Monday.
So anyway, again, have a blessed Easter.
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