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April 24, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Mike Lindell: Accountability Is Coming for Election Theft Criminals
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Millstone Report.
Thanks so much for being with us.
As always, we can't do the program without you watching every single day.
So I was talking about this, I guess we covered this, I don't know, probably last week sometime, whenever it was, where Tulsi Gabbard dropped this bombshell of a story.
Breaking, Tulsi Gabbard just announced at the cabinet meeting that her office has obtained evidence of massive vulnerabilities on voting machines that allow hackers to flip votes.
I'm going to pipe in the audio real quick and we're going to take a listen.
I've got a long list of things that we're investigating.
We have the best of the best going after this.
Election integrity being one of them.
We have evidence of how these electronic voting systems...
Have been vulnerable to hackers for a very long time and vulnerable to exploitation to manipulate the results of the votes being cast, which further drives forward your mandate to bring about paper ballots across the country so that voters can have faith in the integrity of our elections.
So that was an absolute, to me, I mean, that was huge.
You know, there's been a lot of people, I mean, we've always talked about 2020 on the program.
We know it was rigged.
You know, we've already come to those conclusions.
But to finally hear this out of the executive branch, I know there's a lot of you out there that feel vindicated by this.
And this is still the tip of the iceberg.
I think there's still a lot of work to be done.
But if you want to talk about vindication.
I can think of really no other man who was on top of this from the beginning than MyPillow's Mike Lindell, and that's why I wanted to invite him on the program.
Mr. Lindell, thank you so much for your time.
Welcome to the Millstone Report.
Well, thanks for having me on.
I really do appreciate it.
So I know you've been on top of this for a very long time.
I remember, I guess in the aftermath of 2020, I remember the video of you standing outside the Oval Office.
First of all, thank you for your courage, because I honestly know that this has come, your stance on this issue has come at great personal cost to you.
Yeah, and thank you.
Everyone said when Tulsi Gabbard, when she came out with that two weeks ago, that was right on the heels of our president.
Coming out with an executive order, wanting to get to paper ballots, hand-counted everyone.
And everyone came up, Marjorie Taylor, Mike Lindell was vindicated, Mike Lindell was vindicated.
But, you know, it's a great victory there.
It's a great, that everybody's getting aware of.
But for me, the vindication's going to come when we...
When we get to paper ballots, hand count.
Remember, 132 countries have banned electronic voting machines.
There's a reason for that.
The last one being Argentina, that freed their country, and I met their great, awesome president.
But it's great that what we have now, we didn't have back then.
Our voice has gotten so much bigger.
You have great podcasts like yourself.
You have all these different media outlets.
I have my own Lindell TV that's public now and all this stuff going on.
You know, people asked me just the other day, at the same time you see this come out, you also see I was at the number one story in the news last week where Mike Lindell is weeping in court that says he's in ruins.
Well, the truth of the matter is, is this is one of the machine companies that is still, they've still sued myself and my pillow.
For over, what, $2 billion with a B?
And I've been fighting.
I've spent tens of million dollars on the country and to get to where we're at now, to get the word out, keep getting the word out.
And why are they still attacking?
Well, it's only for one reason.
They want me to shut up about getting rid of the machines because it's getting to the point now where everybody knows that we have to get rid of them.
So I'm very encouraged.
I have a meeting with our president in about a week and a half to bring up other stuff to him besides this.
And I think we're going to get there.
I really believe we're going to get there.
We're working from the top down and the bottom up.
And it's been a long four years of being attacked every day by the media.
Every single day.
From morning till night, that's what I do.
And you hear I'm a little hoarse.
It's not from yelling at journalists or whatever.
I had a vocal cord surgery, the 6-1 now, but this time they finally think they got everything.
I'm not going to end up being a singer, but I am going to get my voice back better than ever.
I know you've got lots of fans out there, and we certainly want you to keep your voice.
What would you say to those who want accountability?
That's what I'm hearing all across X. People are obviously relieved.
We've got the administration that we have.
We still have a lot of problems.
But what about the criminals that have been in charge of our government for a long time, whether it's election fraud, whether it's the intel oligarchies, I call them.
They framed Donald Trump for treason.
They framed Mike Flynn for treason.
There's a lot of people.
Then you get the Epstein list.
People want handcuffs.
They want some of these people marched out in handcuffs.
They want investigations.
They want charges.
Do you agree?
I mean, we've got to have accountability as well here.
Oh, yeah, you're going to have accountability.
You're going to get that.
Here's what's happened when I told people when our great president won the election.
Well, why didn't they steal it?
Well, it would have been such a big deviation that everybody would demand that those machines being opened up.
And I said it then, I said...
What we did, we had a big victory.
We broke through the biggest cover-up of the biggest crime in history, which being the 2020 election.
And so much over the last four years has been revealed.
We know where the bad actors are.
We know that there's now, what we're up against is not a Democrat party.
It's the unit party.
This is the party of the Clintons, the Obamas, and the Bushes.
This is the deep state globalists.
And when you say accountability, Absolutely, the president and this administration is going after all of them.
But remember, everybody, we're in a race against time here.
When I talked to our president, I said, sir, I promise you these next four years won't be in vain.
And actually what we're talking about for timing here is just the next...
What, 14 months, 15 months?
And why is that?
Because if we don't get to paper ballots hand-counted and this midterm coming up, it just takes some clicks of the finger for computers to manipulate the elections.
And if we don't hold House and Senate and have all three to move forward, this will end up being a blip in history where we have the biggest chance to save not only our country, but the whole world.
So that's why we're never stopping fighting.
And yes, do I want every one of these criminals put behind bars?
You've heard me say many times.
We're going to recycle when we get rid of these voting machines.
We're going to melt them down and turn them into prison bars and make good use out of them.
You go back in time, you know, for me, I've been so much on the offense, I guess, you know, and knowing who is involved and who's, you know, where all the bad actors are, all the real bad ones, and all the way down.
Right now, for me, it's more, let's get the stuff fixed in a parallel track as they know where they're at and going after them.
We have a perfect case, and everybody's heard of the Tina Peter case.
We have a political prisoner, a seven-year-old grandma that never had a jaywalking ticket in her life, and they went after her for doing her job in Colorado, and the crooked secretary of state there.
I know there's criminals, so many criminals, let's just use that for example, that went after it.
They're the ones that committed the crimes.
They're the ones that committed the crimes, not just against Colorado, but our country, and then it trickled to the world.
Well, right now, just little victories, everybody.
Just yesterday, you know, I talked to the president about it, and he sent out, he can't be his partner because it's a state versus federal, but he did send out a person of interest that the government had.
Well, yesterday, everybody, it was a big victory because all the crooked people, the crooked crooks, the evil ones in Colorado that came and tried to stop the judge from even looking at this.
And the judge said, no, no, no, no.
We're going to look at this.
That was a big victory.
Everyone goes, that just seems small.
No, we have all these going on everywhere, cracks in...
Cracks in that we're breaking on through and opening doors, and I'm very excited.
There will be accountability, but I'll tell you, everyone, I had to learn patience.
If you look up the word patience, you don't see my picture, but God said I had to learn patience, and so is our president, but him and I back up.
I've got to say this.
Back last summer when we become such good friends, we're sitting there and he says, Mike, he said, all this stuff that's going on, all the destruction and whatever, they're ruining our country.
And I said, sir, I said...
And God uses all things for good.
Actually, these things are good things.
They don't look like it on paper, but what's happening is people are pouring into this bucket of common sense, being your bucket.
And I said, the other things is people are looking to Jesus Christ, looking to God.
It's the biggest revival in history because people don't look to God when things are going good.
It's usually when things are going bad.
And I remember him looking at me.
He goes, But they're wrecking the country so bad, I don't know if we can fix it in four years.
And I said, sir, with God all things are possible, and Him working through you, you'll get it done faster and better than anyone in history.
And you guys, look what's going on right now in just a few short months.
Evil is reeling, but they're regrouping, is what I'm saying.
It's almost like they're regrouping.
You know, here's the thing, too, when you say to hold people accountable or who did this, I can sit there and tell everybody based on what I would have to say, the Deep State, Globalist, Uniparty, CCP, there's so many.
You overturn one thing over here and you go, wait a minute, I thought this one's in on it here, too, or this entity's in on it.
It's bigger than anything you could imagine.
You know, I guess when you call it, it's like as people are held accountable, there's two things.
Will everybody get held accountable?
You know, we don't know.
But I know that one thing, we got all these parallel tracks running and we're very much on the offense, not the defense anymore.
That's encouraging that, you know, when you get these meetings with President Trump, that you are reminding him that the God of heaven is in charge of all of this.
And so that's very, very encouraging.
I think a lot of people out there appreciate that because there are people that, you know, they pray, Christians across this country, they pray for our leaders and they pray for them to...
I want to raise what you mentioned.
You mentioned the voting machines, and I guess, I don't know why, but...
I really agree with you, but I never really thought about it.
We really do have to get the voter fraud and the electronic voting machines done away with before the 2026 elections, or 2027.
You're exactly right.
Yeah, because if they do get control of the House, which a lot of times that happens in an off-year election, but if we can somehow hold that and eliminate the voting fraud, you're exactly right.
I just hadn't connected those dots yet, but you make an excellent point.
No, it's 100%.
Everyone needs to realize my efforts for the last four years were blocked.
More by uniparty Republicans than any Democrat.
I mean, we were blocked and blocked, and it didn't make sense.
Well, it does now that you label them.
You've got a lot of people calling them rhinos.
No, it's worse than that.
These are uniparty.
There's uniparty Democrats, too.
There's only two parties anymore.
It's the Donald Trump Party of Common Sense and then this uniparty.
And with this uniparty...
If we don't secure our elections and get to paper ballots hand counted like 132 other countries have, we're in a lot of trouble because they're going to go for it.
And I'm telling you, the Republicans, if you ever wonder out there why you get to an election, you go, how did this person make it to the general election?
We had such a good candidate in the primary.
Because they got stolen in the primary.
This is what they do in the primary.
This is why you end up with this person going, how did he even get to this part?
Because there's so much corruption.
If you're going to take a country, this is without a shot fire.
You go in and it's happened to countries all over the world.
We were the last...
The last shining light that, you know, if it would have happened here, and I want to tell everybody this, if Donald Trump would have been put back in in December of 2020, we would have lost our country forever.
And I can say that 100%.
It wouldn't matter what he would have done during the four years, but we had to have four years of all these attacks and all this uncovering and everything coming up and all the bad times so people's eyes would get open to, you know, To all of this and find out where the bad actors are,
the crooks, everything else.
And if it would have been too early, I tell people all the time, you bring up God, I said, you know, this is all a bit on God's timing and not on our timing.
And this had to play out just the way God intended it to get to this beautiful place that we're going to end up.
Wow. Yeah, that's absolutely – I completely agree with that.
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Well, Mike Lindell, again, it's an honor to meet you.
First time we've ever done this.
I'd love to do it again sometime, but I also just want to thank you for bringing attention to the voter fraud and thank you for coming on the Millstone Report, sir.
God bless you and all the work you're doing.
Well, thank you, and thanks for having me on.
God bless y'all, everybody.
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Alright, folks.
You know, it's great.
I really enjoyed talking to Mike Lindell for the first time.
That was really a treat to get to sit down and do.
I want to thank him again for coming on the program and also, you know, talking about this, you know, my question about accountability.
I know that's what everybody wants.
You know, we're ready for...
These criminals that have hated us as citizens for so long, we're ready for them to, in some cases, be let out of buildings and handcuffs.
As a matter of fact, I'm not the only one talking about this.
I think yesterday on Steve Bannon's show over on The War Room, he was talking with, let's see here, Mike Davis.
Okay, so Ivan Raiklin writing over on X saying it's reassuring to hear that the real AG, Mike Davis, had wall-to-wall counseling sessions with his staffers Pam, Cash, and Dan.
Sounds like he told them to stop cosplaying on Fox News or as a Fox News anchor or hockey player and MMA fighter, respectively.
But this is the clip that's making the rounds over on X. Let's take a listen to what he said.
I just had several meetings at the Trump Justice Department.
I met with the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, the Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, the Acting No.
3, Chad Mizell, and the incoming No.
3, Stanley Woodward.
And I want to reassure the war room posse.
That they are very much on top of what's happening in our country, right?
And just because you're not seeing criminal indictments right now, that does not mean they're not coming.
They are very much coming.
I want you to go back to that team because that's pretty impressive.
This is not President Trump's first...
Term Justice Department.
Walk through who the players are, starting with Pam.
So Pam Bondy is the Attorney General.
She is a rock-solid constitutionalist.
She's bold.
She's fearless.
She's not being flashy about what she's doing behind the scenes.
She is very much doing things behind the scenes.
We love Pam.
Okay, who else?
She's great.
Todd Blanche.
Fabulous. The Deputy Attorney General.
Took the President on as a client when nobody else would touch it.
Yeah, and got ostracized for it.
These law firms are scrambling for Todd's blessing.
Let's just put it that way.
Good luck to those law firms, especially law firms like Perkins Coie.
Good luck.
So he's the deputy.
He's the deputy attorney general.
He runs the day-to-day of the department.
Chad Mizell is Pam's chief of staff, who's also the acting number three, the acting associate attorney general.
Is he going to stay?
He's doing a great job as chief of staff.
Is he going to go to be number three and give up chief?
No, he's staying as chief of staff.
Which is more important.
It's just more important.
Stanley Woodward is going to be the Associate Attorney General once he gets confirmed.
So he's moving from the White House over at DOJ.
Yeah, he's counselor to the AG right now.
And he was Navarro's lawyer.
Yeah, and he was Stanley Woodward's, excuse me, Walt Natas.
Stanley Woodward was Walt Natas' attorney, the co-defendant on the presidential records case.
President Trump has a rock-solid team of very good lawyers who are battle-tested, who are loyal to the president, and in his agenda, they should be.
And the word is, from Pam and the team, is that, hey, we're not going to screw any of these things up.
We don't want to hurry it.
Things are happening.
Stand by.
Justice is definitely coming.
Let me just assure the war room posse, justice is coming and there's going to be accountability for this unprecedented Republican lawfare where the Biden Justice Department was politicized and
weaponized. There's going to be accountability for a lot of these crimes.
It takes time to build these crimes.
Cash Patel.
So, you know, I mean, a clip like that is either going to age really poorly or it's going to age great, you know?
I think what's today, today's Thursday.
So I think yesterday, and don't hold me to this, but I think we've reached the 100-day mark of Donald Trump 2.0.
And everybody is, understandably, you know, they're wanting change to happen even faster.
And there's really nothing wrong with that.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with clips like that.
People have their opinions saying, hey, look, things are going to happen.
There is going to be justice.
And there's also nothing wrong with those of us who have a very healthy skepticism that anything is going to be done and anything is going to really change, right?
So it's a mixed bag.
I think both opinions are valid at this point.
I mean, I'm not a blackpiller.
You guys know me well enough.
I mean, sometimes I'll blackpill, but I consider myself a blackpill bulimic, right?
I mean, you're tempted to take it.
Sometimes you look at the state of things and you're tempted to despair, and we're not supposed to do that as Christians at all.
As evidenced by Mike Lindell in the interview that we just gave where Lindell was telling us, look, God works all things together for good according to those who are called, according to his purposes.
And I believe that.
That's scripture.
It's the truth.
And so we can't despair.
We can't blackpill, even though sometimes we're tempted to do so.
That being said, certainly all of us, everybody on the right would have loved the arrests in the first 100 days.
We haven't gotten that yet.
We need to continue to be vocal about it.
We need to continue.
You know, every time Kash Patel or Pam Bondi or, you know, they're making these arrests here or there of violent criminals or, you know, Tesla fire bombers or whatever it is.
Most of the time, the first comment is some obligatory Epstein client list post.
I think that needs to continue.
You need to continue asking, where's the Epstein list?
Donald Trump was asked in the Oval Office earlier this week, where's the list?
He said, I'm going to talk to Pam Bondi about it.
Obviously, if you are, and this is true, if you really are going to assemble a grand jury for any one of these crimes, You've got to keep the evidence sealed,
I guess, until you can actually bring charges.
I think that's common sense.
At the same time, it's not really what I want to hear.
Everything is hurry up and wait.
Just like we had to hurry up and wait during the entire four-year Joe Biden term.
Ivan Raiklin also putting out this AI photo of Tulsi Gabbard with wings.
Once again, this is the second time I think I've seen him call her the angel of retribution.
This was in response to Tulsi Gabbard writing this on X. Politization of our intelligence and leaking classified information puts our nation's security at risk.
and must end.
Those who leak classified information will be found and held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.
Today, I refer two intelligence community leaks to the Department of Justice for criminal referral, with a third criminal referral on its way, which includes the recent illegal leak to the Washington Post.
These deep state criminals leaked classified information for partisan political purposes to undermine POTUS's agenda.
I look forward to working with the Justice Department and FBI to investigate, terminate, and prosecute these criminals.
So, I say all that to say, when Mike Lindell was talking about accountability for election theft, we also have other people talking about accountability about really the whole gambit and this cabal of criminals that have plagued us for so,
so long.
But let's go over to the war in Russia, the war between Russia and Ukraine.
We do have some new developments.
First, there was news that broke last night.
That Russia had agreed to peace.
Ukraine wasn't far behind.
And those tweets that I bookmarked are now gone.
They're deleted.
And I even had a Douglas McGregor tweet, Colonel Douglas McGregor, commenting on one saying, hey, this is great news.
Over the night, though, Russia bombed Kiev.
And this is all happening.
At the same time that Ben Shapiro has a sit-down interview with Volodymyr Zelensky that he's airing sometime today.
He may be airing it right now.
I don't know.
The whole thing seems totally...
This whole narrative is, to me, one that is...
Trying to keep this war going at all costs.
I have been saying that if Rubio and Trump are right in what they say, their goal is to normalize relations with Russia, how can Russian relationships with the United States be normalized and we also go to war with Iran?
So I've been saying for a week now, you either have peace everywhere or you're not going to have peace anywhere.
The negotiations, if negotiations break down and we can't get peace and it's a complete lost opportunity and the war goes on between Russia and Ukraine and relationships do not normalize between the United States and Russia,
then it doesn't matter if you go to war with Iran because you can't normalize relations with Russia.
What I'm telling you is I think both of these conflicts are, you know, they are...
Not mutually exclusive.
They are linked together because Iran is a proxy of Russia and, by extension, China.
So, this was Donald Trump yesterday giving an update about Russia and Ukraine right before.
This was hours before Russia launched an attack in Kiev.
And if I can solve it because of a certain ability, that would be great.
And if it doesn't happen, I will say that I think Russia is...
Ready. And a lot of people said Russia wanted to go for the whole thing.
And they've...
I think we have a deal with Russia.
We have to get a deal with Zelensky.
And I hope that Zelensky...
I thought it might be easier to deal with Zelensky so far.
It's been harder.
But that's okay.
It's all right.
But I think we have a deal with both.
I hope they do it.
Because I'm looking to save...
And, you know, we spend a lot of money.
But this is...
About a lot of humanity, this is the worst.
I get the pictures, the satellite pictures.
I've never seen anything like it.
Of the fields after some of these battles, it's horrible that it's going for nothing.
We would have never had this problem.
You would have never had that war if I were president.
So Trump was saying yesterday, look, I mean, this is terrible.
We spent a lot of money, but this is really more about humanity and trying to save lives.
This was, I guess, about an hour and a half, about an hour ago, this was posted, Eric Daughtery over on X. This is Trump, I think, earlier today.
On Russia, do you still believe that Putin is serious about peace given the events overnight in Ukraine?
Okay, so given the events overnight in Ukraine where Russia launched an attack on Kiev, is Russia still serious about peace?
This that's the question doesn't end.
Are you considering new sanctions on Russia?
So we are thinking that very strongly that they both want peace.
But they have to get to the table.
We're waiting a long time.
They have to get them to the table.
And I think we're going to get peace.
We want to save 5000 young people.
I used to say 2500 and they say 5000.
We have Mr. Prime Minister, we have about 5000 young people a week.
That are dying in that ridiculous war.
And, you know, I started out because I didn't like all the money that we were paying, and then I realized how many people were dying.
And that's by far the more important element right now.
I'm saying we can save thousands of people.
I don't like that it takes long at all, but I think they both want to make peace.
I do believe so.
There's a lot of hatred there.
There's a lot of very bad blood, a lot of disgust, but I hope we're going to get there.
For the sake of a lot of young people that are dying.
Mr. President, do you have a deadline for when?
I have my own deadline.
I have my own deadline.
And we want it to be fast.
And the Prime Minister is helping us.
He wants it to be fast, too.
And I think everybody at this time in NATO, they want to see this thing happen.
So we have a deadline.
And after that, we're going to have a very much different attitude.
So the question has got to be, As news broke yesterday, there were some reports that are obviously not true, that Russia and Ukraine were ready for peace, and then Russia attacks Kiev.
Of course, the war is ongoing, just because you don't have peace until you actually have the agreement signed.
So battle plans are still moving forward.
You've got long-term, short-term objectives.
I'm no military guy, but I think that's just common sense if you're planning anything.
So yesterday over on Truth Social, so this was before Russia attacked.
Before Russia attacked Kiev, Donald Trump put this on Truth Social.
Quote, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is boasting on the front page of the Wall Street Journal that Ukraine will not legally recognize the occupation of Crimea.
There's nothing to talk about here.
That was the quote.
Donald Trump goes on, this statement is very harmful to peace negotiations with Russia and that Crimea was lost years ago under the auspices of President Barack Hussein Obama and is not even a point of discussion.
So could it be that Zelensky's, I don't know, stubborn, honoree statement kind of forced Russia's hand saying, okay, well, we'll just...
We'll attack Kiev.
I mean, just kind of reminding you the long arm that Russia does have in the war.
The statement goes on.
Nobody is asking Zelensky to recognize Crimea is Russian territory, but if he wants Crimea, why didn't they fight for it 11 years ago when it was handed over to Russia without a shot being fired?
The area also houses for many years before the Obama handover major Russian submarine bases.
It's inflammatory statements like Zelensky's that make it so difficult to settle this war.
He has nothing to boast about.
The situation for Ukraine is dire.
He can have peace or he can fight for another three years before losing the whole country.
I have nothing to do with Russia but have much to do with wanting to save, on average, 5,000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers a week who are dying for no reason whatsoever.
The statement made by Zelensky today will do nothing but prolong the killing field and nobody wants that.
Donald Trump was prophetic here because that's exactly what happened.
This statement that Zelensky gives to the Wall Street Journal, yada, yada, yada, Russia says, okay, we're going to send missiles into Kiev.
Are you ready for peace yet?
Now, people are already harping on this.
People like, you know, the traitor Mike Pence is already out there saying, oh, the attacks on Russia, or the attacks on Ukraine by Russia just shows that we have to redouble our efforts and commit to this war.
I feel like...
I feel like what is going on right now paired with...
Ben Shapiro released an interview with Zelensky after Zelensky completely embarrassed himself, was exposed.
The whole Ukraine hoax was exposed for being exactly what it is, a giant money laundering depot.
The disastrous appearance in the Oval Office.
Right-of-center Americans are done with it.
People my age and younger are done with it.
And so now you've got Ben Shapiro rolling out there, going to try to humanize Volodymyr Zelensky.
At least, I haven't seen the interview.
But it does seem like there is going to be a full-court press by the neocons and the warmongers to continue the fighting in Ukraine, and they don't want peace.
And then you have to think, is anybody out there sabotaging potential peace between Russia and Ukraine?
Zelensky clearly doesn't want peace because I think he knows he's going to lose a lot of money and power, and who knows, maybe even his life.
Trump's statement concludes by saying the statement made by Zelensky today will do nothing but prolong the killing field.
He was right.
And nobody wants that.
I don't think that's true.
There are plenty of people who want the killing to continue.
He goes on, we are very close to a deal, but the man with no cards to play should now finally get it done.
I look forward to being able to help Ukraine and Russia get out of this complete and total mess that would have never happened if I were president.
Excuse me.
So, yeah, I'm not really sure exactly.
You know, I'm trying to give you the latest information as I have it.
There may have been something that's already broken on this.
I don't know.
Jack Posobiec is, you know, putting this quote out there in response to Ben Shapiro interviewing Zelensky with a quote, brainwashed by Tucker Carlson.
It would have been much better if Tucker Carlson would have gotten to interview Volodymyr Zelensky, but I don't think...
Isn't Tucker Carlson on some sort of...
Is he on some sort of Ukraine kill list?
I don't know.
I know that that exists.
But, yeah, here's the preview for this Ben Shapiro-Zelensky sit-down.
All working?
Yes. Yes, all good.
I want to start by asking you about the meeting that you had in the Oval Office.
How do you feel that you could have handled things better with the President and Vice President?
The meeting in the Oval Office, it did not help Ukraine.
You spent nearly $200 billion to the defense of Ukraine.
There are lots of questions about where the money is going.
There's nothing to hide.
We're absolutely open.
Wouldn't it be possible by the United States of where those dollars are going?
We are kind of the living shield against Russia's invasion to the civilized world.
Now, I've re-watched this.
We're the shield to Russia's invasion of the civilized world.
Isn't Russia a civilized country?
The only thing that Russia does that the West doesn't do is outlaw things like, you know, I don't have a complete comprehensive understanding of everything that goes on in Russia.
I think the one thing that makes Russia uncivilized in the minds of neocon warmongers is that Russia bans LGBTQ RSTL and would you like to buy a vowel propaganda in their country.
And that goes against what America's chief export has been, which is the rainbow, right?
And that includes European Union.
You can't enter into the European Union unless you have a law on the books that legalizes
Anyway, I'm going to watch this interview because I'm very curious as to what exactly is going to be portrayed and whether or not this whole thing is really just going to be one giant propaganda piece to keep the United States invested in this war.
And whether or not this is just about making Putin the...
What was it?
One listener on X or somebody on X, one of my tweets, said that I was a Russian propagandist and that Putin was evil incarnate.
Right? No gray area.
No, no, no.
Vladimir Putin was literally the embodiment of evil, is what some people think.
Is that what they're going to try to promote?
That sort of propaganda, again, to keep the war going?
Because if the war continues in Ukraine, this is the truth, like, if the war continues in Ukraine, it's just a fact, World War III is more likely.
But I think, I guess if you zoom in from the 30,000-foot World War III view, we can say that if the war in Ukraine continues, and Relations with Russia are not normalized.
Then a war with Iran is a lot more palpable.
So if you remove the chance, okay, well, we just can't get peace with Russia.
It's a lost cause.
Then you can maybe potentially convince Donald Trump to start dropping bombs on Iran on behalf of Israel.
Again, I mean, all of the talk, all of the warmongering talk about bombing Iran, my question has been for a month now, if not longer, how do you normalize relationship with Russia and then also bomb Iran?
It seems like you can't have both.
You can't do both.
You can't eat your cake and also have it.
So you're either going to have peace in Ukraine and no bombs in Iran, or you're going to have war in Ukraine and war in the Middle East.
That's the way I see it.
I could be wrong.
Maybe there's something I haven't foreseen.
Maybe you get peace with Russia and Ukraine and you still drop bombs on Iran.
I don't know.
I could be wrong.
I could wake up tomorrow and be completely wrong.
But that's just the news as I see it right now.
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Where were we?
We were right...
Let's see here.
Oh yeah, Al Gore.
Of all people, Al Gore is back in the news.
Al Gore is back in the news.
He goes to San Francisco and compares Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler.
We've already seen, by the way, how populist authoritarian leaders have used migrants as scapegoats and have fanned the fires of xenophobia to fuel their own rise to power.
And power-seeking is what this is all about.
Our Constitution, written by our founders, is intended to protect us against a threat identical to Donald Trump.
Someone who seeks power at all costs to get more power.
Ugh, I just got that.
Gravelly, yeah.
Today is one of those days that I wish Rush Limbaugh was still with us.
He would have an absolute field day.
One of the best, if not the best, at ripping Al Gore and exposing Al Gore for being the unserious, silly man that he is.
Rush Limbaugh was the best when it came to Al Gore.
And I wish he was with us.
I would love to tune in.
I would love to tune in to that familiar music that you would hear on my time zone at 11.05, 11.06, after the local news break at the top of whatever talk radio station you were listening to.
And here's Rush coming in, talking about Al Gore.
I really wish Rush Limbaugh was back with us.
Within a decade, there will be no more snows.
On Kilimanjaro.
That was what Al Gore said in the year 2006, within a decade.
Well, it's 2025, and there is Mount Kilimanjaro, and there's still plenty of snow.
What he also said, let's see, climate doomsday guru Al Gore, who probably flew to San Francisco on a private jet, gets all fired up talking about Trump.
Our Constitution, written by our founders, is intended to protect us against a threat identical to Donald Trump.
Someone who seeks power at all costs to get more power.
Yeah, what else did he say?
This was the...
This was the Nazi Germany.
...use what is not a precedent.
and I understand very well why it is wrong to compare Adolf Hitler's Third Reich to any other movement.
It was uniquely evil, full stop.
I get it.
But there are important lessons from the history.
But forget everything that I just said.
He's Orange Hitler.
It's funny because one of the things that I learned from my wife early on in our marriage as a 24-year-old man is that when you go to apologize...
But then you say the word but, that the but negates everything that you just said.
I'm sorry, it's just, I think the same thing applies here.
In mind, I want to note that before I use what is not a precedent, I understand very well why it is wrong to compare Adolf Hitler's Third Reich to any other movement.
It was uniquely evil, full stop.
I get it.
But there are important lessons from the history of that emergent evil, and here is one that I regard as essential.
In the immediate aftermath of World War II, a small group of philosophers who had escaped Hitler's murderous regime returned to Germany and performed a kind of moral autopsy on the Third Reich.
The most famous of the so-called Frankfurt School of philosophers was a man named Jürgen Habermas.
Best known, I would say.
But it was Habermas' mentor, Theodor Adorno, who wrote that the first step in that nation's descent into hell was, and I quote, the conversion of all questions of truth into questions of power.
He described how the Nazis, and I quote again, attacked the very heart of the distinction.
The Trump administration is insisting on trying to create their own preferred version of reality.
The Trump administration is doing the exact same thing.
Well, I mean, he didn't say that.
He said Russia started the war, but then he also insinuated that Ukraine started it.
It really was Joe Biden.
It was NATO that provoked the war.
We all know this.
This just is so triggering to them, right?
All right, what else is triggering to the left right now?
And expect us to believe it.
At home, they attack heroes who have defended our nation in war and against cyber attacks as traitors.
Yeah, I think he's talking about Chris Krebs.
Yeah, we're going to find out about Mr. Chris Krebs and all of his cyber expertise, where he said the 2016 election was, you know, I'm paraphrasing here, but, you know, insinuates that it was Russia that had something to do with the 2016 election, but then tells us the 2020 election was the most secure that it could ever be.
Yeah, this guy's going to be investigated.
This guy's going to be referred to criminal prosecution.
They can't handle that.
They can't handle that.
It's triggery to them.
Anyway, I don't want to spend any more time on Al Gore.
What a silly, silly man.
I think it might be a good time to go back and watch that old South Park episode, Man Bear Pig.
Excelsior! Remember that?
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, this has to be said.
I've had this tweet, or a similar one, like it for several days now.
Stephen Miller writing, If you were an American falsely accused of wrongdoing on January 6th, it wasn't merely difficult to get due process.
It was impossible.
The entire system was rigged against you.
All of it.
Those persecuted Americans could only dream of the due process afforded to illegal aliens.
He is exactly right.
100%. And then, of course, we remember the entire narrative.
It was shattered many, many times.
But when Tucker Carlson finally got a hold of this tape...
...was very obviously not the result of violence he suffered at the entrance to the Capitol.
This tape overturns the single most powerful and politically useful lie the Democrats have told us about January 6th.
And it was indeed a lie.
The January 6th committee knew perfectly well that Brian Sicknick was walking normally through the Capitol after he was supposedly murdered by Trump supporters.
And they know that because they saw this tape.
We can be sure because the footage contains an electronic bookmark that is still archived in the Capitol's computer system.
That means...
I mean, there's still, again, kind of going back with the beginning theme or the theme of this episode, accountability.
There's such a lot of work to do.
In other news, if you go to Google and you search disparate impact, the AI definition of something called disparate impact refers to a legal theory where a seemingly neutral policy or practice Yeah,
that sounds pretty dystopian, right?
That the law is the law, but it may have a disparate impact on minorities, so we shouldn't hold those minorities accountable to the law.
Nate Fisher from New Founding.
This is an important win for the country.
Disparate impact concerns served as the basis for the worst and most pervasive intrusions of the civil rights regime.
So the news is, folks, yesterday Donald Trump signs an executive order ending this idea, this disparate impact legal theory.
Lastly, sir, we have an executive order on disparate impact theory.
This is a theory that...
Underlies a lot of the modern DEI and CRT-driven diversity culture.
The basic idea here is instructing your departments and agencies to no longer rely on disparate impact theory as they're regulating, as they're issuing guidance, as they're making rules.
We want to focus on results.
We want to focus on actual fairness.
We want to focus on merit, not things like disparate impact theory and the whole sort of...
And there you go.
Wanted to end on a positive.
We're out of time for this episode of the Millstone Report.
I had another clip I was going to play.
Maybe we'll have time for it tomorrow.
Well, tomorrow's Friday, right?
So maybe we'll get to talk about this.
Once again, this Supreme Court case, Mahmoud v.
Taylor that they've been debating, interesting, the dispatch, one of the editors or the chief editor of dispatch, tweeting something, then deleting the tweet, Megan Basham, the author of Shepherds for Sale, all over that.
Maybe we'll have time, but I also really wanted to get, I wanted to end with this.
Over the weekend, there's this...
This testimony of a Christian who used to be a homosexual, and it's a fascinating testimony about how Jesus does save sinners from all walks of life and even depraved lifestyles like sodomy.
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I mean, unless I'm providentially hindered, and I don't expect to be, who does?
I'm going to be wishing you a happy Friday.
Until then, God bless everybody out there watching this program.
Have a great rest of your Thursday.
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