Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Arkansas Votes for Ten Commandments Display in All Public Schools!
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My name is Paul Harrell.
This is the Millstone Report.
Great to be with you.
Thanks so much for being with us as always.
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A lot of stuff to get to.
As a matter of fact, I guess we'll start in reverse.
We've got this congresswoman from Texas, this Jasmine Crockett, speaking at, I guess, a black church.
Kind of insinuating that the black church needs to get on board with the LGBTQ, RST, LNE, would-you-like-to-buy-a-vowel, woke sex religion that is so prevalent in our society today.
Admitting that that's not really apropos in the black community.
I find that very interesting.
Also, big news, the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision yesterday siding with the Trump administration and the deportations will continue.
We're going to talk about that.
Also, Amy Coney Barrett, the lone supposedly conservative justice, she sides with all the women on the court.
A lot of people are pointing that out.
They're pointing out the gynocracy and they're pointing out the emotional arguments that tend to persuade women.
in some instances to side with MS-13 gang members and Trende Agua instead of the American people who desperately need our country back and we want our safety back and our security back.
So we've got that.
Also, the tariffs, more followed from the tariffs, we've got these Republican legislators in D.C.
wanting to now take the power of setting tariffs away from the executive branch, away from Donald Trump.
And it's really, really frustrating when you think about...
How the do-nothing Congress, and not just this Congress, but all previous Congresses in my lifetime on this issue, have done nothing about these ridiculous trade imbalances, and now that Donald Trump is finally doing what Congress refused to do for decades, now they want to strip him of that power?
And again, I don't think you can have this conversation about tariffs and the stock market going down and all of this without considering the fact that what Donald Trump has done, at least in the short term, is affect the pocketbooks of nearly everybody, every politician in Washington, D.C., every lobbyist, because we know insider trading goes on.
So the idea that Congress is now wanting to take the tariffs away from President Trump or the ability to set tariffs, I don't know of anybody else who's covering it from this standpoint.
Where their pocketbooks, their wallets are getting lighter because of this and now they're making a ruckus.
Now they want to take the power of the tariffs away from President.
And I'm talking about, you know, there's that guy from, is it Nebraska?
And then, you know, Senator Rand Paul, who...
You know, on a lot of issues, I agree with him on, or at least I did.
I thought I did, but my goodness, he's the most vocal person out there talking about how Donald Trump and these tariffs are a giant mistake.
Anyway, we'll talk about all of that, but we're going to lead with this story out of my home state of Arkansas late last night.
You have to understand something.
So right now, Arkansas is one of these states, for those of you that don't know, that they have a legislative session once every two years.
And so it's not a full-time legislature.
Some people argue that it should be.
I'm not one of those people.
I feel like the more times that the General Assembly meets in Little Rock or any state capital, a lot of times taxpayers pay more.
In a lot of instances, freedoms contract, government grows.
It's not a good thing.
So limiting the time.
But what that means is you have two years to really kind of load up on your ammunition and figure out what you're going to get passed because the session typically only lasts from January to April, somewhere in that time frame.
It normally ends around April.
And so in Arkansas, the state of Arkansas, they are in what's called, I don't know, it's crunch time where all these bills get filed at the last minute.
They suspend the rules that say the bills have to be published for a certain amount of time to try to get all of this stuff through.
It's just the way the sausage is made, I guess.
It's not perfect.
But one of those bills was heard late last night in the Arkansas House that had already passed out of the Senate.
It's a bill to basically put the Ten Commandments on display in classrooms, in public school classrooms.
This is, I think, it's really a no-brainer.
It did pass overwhelmingly.
I think there's 100 reps down there.
So 72 out of 100 voted for this thing.
So now it goes to the desk of Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
And, yeah, I mean, all's well.
It's great.
I mean, it's something that I've been saying.
It's one of these things that needs to happen.
I'm a firm believer that the civil magistrate needs to support both tables of the law.
Literally, when you say that, we're talking about the Ten Commandments.
So it is very appropriate that they literally did this.
They literally supported last night both tables of the law from a civil magistrate perspective.
And I think that's fantastic and it needs to be celebrated for a lot of reasons.
But we're also going to talk about what I believe are some of the main problems with some people who just don't understand why this is a good thing.
But here is a headline, Bill to Require Ten Commandments to be Displayed in Classrooms Sent to the Governor.
This is from the Arkansas Democrat Guest.
Arkansas is not alone here.
Louisiana has done this previously and obviously it's tied up in court.
The reason this is going on is because supposedly there are these new judicial precedents, Supreme Court precedents, how they have ruled on certain bills, I'm sorry, on certain cases.
And essentially they're going back to a less stringent, this whole establishment clause nonsense that has sent us down this slippery slope of moral decay ever since it's happened.
They're saying that the test is now different.
It's now, quote, a longstanding history and tradition test.
Well, based on that standard, the courts would have to find, you would think, of course we never know with Barrett on the court now, but you would think that, like, okay, the Ten Commandments, It is what we base all of our laws on.
It is certainly a Christian test that, you know, that's what this country was founded as, right?
A Christian nation, a pan-Protestant nation, if you will.
That's historically really not even an arguable point, although some on the left would love it to be, and they've promoted that conspiracy theory that America wasn't founded as a Christian country.
But the sponsor of the bill in the House, Representative Brown, says you cannot separate the history of our nation and the development of the moral law and the Ten Commandments, nor should we.
Again, it's similar to a law passed in Louisiana last year requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed in public school classrooms.
Similar legislation has also been proposed in Texas, Oklahoma, and Utah.
Federal judge blocked the Louisiana bill, I guess, the law in Louisiana, and it's now in court, right?
But here's something interesting.
So there's a Republican state representative out of Arkansas by the name of Steve Unger, and he's a Republican, and he voted against this bill, and he spoke against this bill.
He says, quote, as an evangelical believer who, as a chaplain, spent 25 years doing ministry to the young agnostics who were raised on cultural Christianity, he opposed it on that.
As a matter of fact, I clipped this because I thought it was just outrageous.
Last night, this is what I wrote on X. Last night, the Arkansas General Assembly passed a bill to put the Ten Commandments back in public schools, which is a great thing, and I applaud them for this.
But Republican State Representative Steve Unger voted against it, and he claimed, and it's a 10-minute, 11-minute, almost 11-minute speech, he claimed cultural Christianity is a problem.
And insinuated, Arkansans are idolizing the Ten Commandments.
I'm not making this up.
I'm not making this up.
We're going to listen to it here in just a second.
I have, I think there's other people that would believe this.
You know, back when, right as the Millstone Report began, you know, back in December of 2023, One of the things, one of the stories we covered was out of Iowa.
Remember, I call him the Christian hero Michael Cassidy when he went into the Iowa Statehouse and he ripped off the head of the Baphomet statue there that the Satanists had erected, you know, because they think they have this First Amendment right to Satanism, essentially promoting evil and wickedness.
And there were Republicans in the Iowa Statehouse that were like, there's nothing we can do.
This is just part of living in a pluralistic liberal.
And it's like, There was this one guy there, state representative, who claimed to be a Christian and is a Christian, because we can disagree on this.
But he just was promoting basically this check your faith at the door.
If you're a public servant, you have to check your faith at the door.
This live and let live, there's nothing we can do.
And this is just not...
Historically accurate when you look at historic Protestant political thought.
This is just not, this is a very new idea of how to govern and how free men with their convictions and who are Christians are allowed to govern, like what is permissible.
And we've really just, we've bought into this, we've bought into a mentality that leads to...
You know, parents, and I say this almost every show, the idea that parents have the right to trans their kids and call it health care, mutilate their children, abuse their children and call it health care, and people are saying no.
Banning things is good sometimes.
It's because they're being confronted with this evil, they're being confronted with this wickedness.
That's why the Ten Commandments...
Going back into schools are a very positive thing because we have pushed God out of public life.
We can talk about cultural Christianity.
Cultural Christianity is good, actually.
It's good.
Specifically considering the alternative.
Now, I get it.
Some people are saying, well, you have cultural Christianity, you may have people running around thinking they're Christians, but they're really not Christians.
Okay, I suppose, yeah, that's a possibility, but what's the alternative?
The alternative, is bad for Christian families.
It's bad for non-Christian families.
And it basically brings everybody down into just a totally wicked, evil, depraved society, quite frankly.
And this is a response to the people recognizing the rotten fruits of secularism.
And it's also, in response, now I don't know, I can't intuit exactly what everybody was thinking when they ran this piece of legislation or how they voted or whatever, but it's also people, in my opinion, realizing that neutrality, once again, neutrality is a myth, ladies and gentlemen.
and the idea that the public square is neutral.
The fact of the matter is you are going to worship something.
The fact of the matter is blasphemy laws exist.
It just depends on who are you revering.
Like, what can you not say?
There are still blasphemy laws in effect today.
That's where the cancel culture came from.
That's where all this wokeism comes from.
So I think people are realizing that neutrality is a myth.
In fact, you are either going to be just a pagan nation, and that's promoted and you can't speak out against that, or you are going to be a Christian nation.
It is a binary choice.
I think people are realizing that.
And so people are saying, why not put the Ten Commandments in the public schools?
Why not list...
Why not reinforce the idea that, yeah, you are accountable to God.
At a bare minimum, that's what they do.
Just listening there, right?
And not to mention all of our laws.
Not to mention we don't want people to murder.
We don't want people to steal.
We don't want people to commit adultery.
We don't want people to lie.
But you know what?
We also don't want people to worship idols.
Don't want people to take the Lord's name in vain.
Anyway, let's get to the...
This is a lone Republican objection last night in the Arkansas House of Representatives.
And we're going to listen to this.
Let me see if I can pipe this in here.
Again, this is Republican State Representative Steve Unger.
Take a listen.
I cannot tell you how much I would rather not come down here and speak against this bill.
No offense against anybody here, but I'm going to explain why I can't support it.
Some may speak against this bill for legal reasons.
I'm speaking against this bill strictly as an evangelical believer who, as a chaplain, spent 25 years doing ministry to the young agnostics who were raised in cultural Christianity.
Now first let me say, I don't have any problems at all with the American Heritage Act.
So the idea is, he's speaking against this bill on behalf of agnostics.
First of all, huge red flag.
Again, I don't discount his service.
I have a special, you know, there's a special place in my heart for military chaplains.
I mean, the stuff that they see, the stuff they have to counsel on a very ecumenical basis is, you know, I...
I can only really imagine what happens there, okay?
And that certainly is a blessing and a service.
But to somehow say that I guess people become agnostics being raised in cultural Christianity, so yada, yada, yada, we don't need to put the Ten Commandments in schools for young children to see.
Many of them have never even seen the Ten Commandments at this point because we've pushed God so far out of public life is just...
When I watched this this morning, my blood pressure went through the roof because I am just so disheartened at this take.
He says he's an evangelical, and I'm just so disheartened.
I think this line of thinking, though, is more prevalent than we want to admit.
Again, kudos to the General Assembly of Arkansas for passing this bill in such a massive majority, but still.
Let's keep going.
Aspect of this bill.
In fact, I wished every school had an American Heritage corner in the library that displayed the Ten Commandments, the Magna Carta, the Declaration of Independence.
That's weird, because that's what this bill would do.
That's the exact thing.
Instead of a corner, though, it would be in every classroom, and yet you're speaking against it.
And also please understand, I wish every school kid in Arkansas could access the Ten Commandments.
To that end, I wish a loving mother and father would handwrite the text of Exodus 20 on cardstock and put it in their kid's backpack.
But for those parents that don't do that, this bill accomplishes what you say that you want to have happen.
So, I mean, there must be something else I'm missing here.
That would be a treasured keepsake coming from the very people who God charged in Proverbs 22 with training up the way they should go.
But a poster in a classroom with no buy-in from the teacher?
I'm afraid what this does is take something that should be holy and make it trivial.
Now the second reason I'm against this is a little more complex.
Holy. Taking something that's holy, the Ten Commandments, and makes it trivial by posting this holy text where children can see it, those that know about it can see it, those that have never heard about it can see it, because believe me, that actually is the case.
There are...
I don't see the logic.
You want them to have it.
You want their parents to have it.
You want a National Heritage corner in a library, but you don't want this.
The whole thing to me just is so puzzling.
You don't want them to have it because it's holy and you're making it a trivial thing, and yet not having it at all.
You'd rather them just not have it at all.
this, emphasize the simple Outward trappings of holiness.
Like a poster on a wall.
The very kind of things that Amos chapter 5 talks about.
Over and above the sublime demands for a changed heart.
Let's talk about the outward trappings of holiness versus a changed heart.
The outward trappings of holiness.
He thinks that displaying the Ten Commandments But he just said that they were holy and you were trivializing it.
Okay, so he's saying that putting it on the wall is somehow being, I guess, like a Pharisee.
It's the outward trappings of holiness instead of a changed heart.
We're not talking about salvation here.
No one that I know of is claiming, That putting the Ten Commandments in a public school classroom is going to change hearts, that that act alone is going to somehow save souls and cause people to repent and turn to Christ.
No one is saying that putting the Ten Commandments in public schools saves, actively saves, the entire classroom.
I don't know of anyone that thinks that.
Two gospel stories.
Matthew 19 tells of the rich young ruler who asked Jesus to validate his righteousness.
And why not?
The young man acts rightly.
He has kept all the commandments.
No small thing.
I wish I could say that.
And then the Lord says, sell all you have and give the money to the poor.
The young man can't.
His unchanged heart loves money more than God.
Mark 2 tells of the paralyzed man lowered through the hole in the roof to a room where Jesus is teaching.
Jesus looks at him and says, your sins are forgiven.
Now, usually repentance has to come before forgiveness, but this man hasn't said a word.
He didn't have to.
The Lord knew his heart.
Now, you may ask, what is the harm of the outward trappings of holiness?
Well, again, he has now just unilaterally defined that.
I don't agree that putting the Ten Commandments on display for kids to see in a classroom is an outward trapping of holiness.
So he's already just defined the fact of doing this as bad.
Putting them up for kids to see is bad, even though in his previous comments he said that he would love it if the kids had access to it or if there was a display in the library.
So what is the harm of the outward trappings of holiness, which is exactly what this is?
This is exactly what this is?
I just agree to disagree, Mr. Representative.
Well, in the Gospels, it was the only thing that made Jesus angry.
Okay, so he's insinuating here that what the Arkansas General Assembly did last night makes Jesus angry.
He has already said outward trappings of holiness.
That's what the Ten Commandments are on display.
And now he's comparing this to the times where the Pharisees were doing what Pharisees were doing.
Thank God I'm not like these other sinners and I fast twice a day and everything else versus the tax collector who falls to his knees and says, Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner.
He's now comparing...
What the Arkansas legislature did to basically being a bunch of Pharisees.
That's what he is insinuating here.
In the Gospels, we see Jesus being so kind and understanding to the prostitutes, tax collectors, and Roman soldiers.
The guys who got on his last nerve were the people who cared about the outward trappings of holiness more than a changed heart, the Pharisees.
In Matthew 23, he calls them whitewashed tombs.
They look good on the outside, but the inside is full of death and decay.
Who's putting off the real Pharisee vibe here?
Honest question.
In this scenario, who is the Pharisee?
Honest question.
You can judge for yourself.
The past few years, we have seen a sad parade of celebrity pastors and megachurch ministries fall victim.
To the outward trappings of holiness more than a changed heart.
Mark Driscoll in Mars Hill, Bill Hybels at Willow Creek, Bill Gothard, Rabbi Zacharias, I could go on, but you get the point.
From the outside looking in, everything looked great until it all collapsed.
People wondered, how could that happen?
I have to say it could not turn out any other way.
It turns out the lies and the internal rot had been going on for years.
Whitewashed tombs.
When Thomas Jefferson said, with self-promotion, the internal rot begins, he got that line from Jesus, whether he knew it or not.
Now, why did I need to come down and speak against this?
Because our own national whitewashed tomb is cultural Christianity.
And what is cultural Christianity?
In the South, cultural Christianity is a part of the air that we breathe.
It's like the home of mosquitoes, Friday night football, saying sir and ma'am, sweet tea, black-eyed peas on New Year's Day, and the music of Lynyrd Skynyrd.
It proves that we're from the South.
Every part of the country has its own version of cultural Christianity.
I'm just describing ours.
I don't know.
I mean...
Again, cultural Christianity is a good thing, actually.
Living off of the derivatives of Christian men and our Christian forefathers that built this country, that built churches.
When they built towns, they built churches first before they built anything else.
Men who prioritized the worship of God on the Lord's Day, one out of seven.
Men who built a Christian country, and we are living off of the benefits of their hard work, their obedience.
We are their posterity, and we have squandered it.
And the fact that people are now trying to do the right thing.
People, whether they believe it or not, whether they have actually ever analyzed what is the role of the civil magistrate in the context of actual cultural Christianity, not whatever he described, is a really, really positive thing that people are coming to this conclusion.
And Christian legislators, for the first time in my life, in mass, are now realizing, you know what?
Yeah. I'm a Christian and I'm not going to check my faith at the door.
I'm going to be a Christian dog catcher.
I'm going to be a Christian quorum court member.
I'm going to be a Christian state representative.
And I'm going to pass laws that reward good, punish evil.
I want to pass laws that are righteous.
I don't want to pass laws that God is displeased with.
These are all really positive things, and this is what our forefathers, this is the government that they used to...
And we've squandered it with...
This idea that, you know, live and let live mentality.
Well, you do you.
Just don't infringe upon me.
Well, actually, that's really, really bad, and it's bad for everybody, especially it ends up being really bad for Christians who, if Kamala Harris, let's be honest, if Kamala Harris had won the 2024 election, Christians in this country would be one step closer to being put in boxcars.
And it goes without saying that the football game and the public meeting will open with prayer.
Maybe a long prayer.
Sometimes a long prayer.
That's good, though.
Now, that is good.
Okay, that is certainly an element of cultural Christianity.
No doubt that a football game on Friday night would open in prayer.
The Supreme Court's been attacking that.
And it is cultural Christianity, but it's also sincere.
I'm not saying it's always sincere, but you have an actual Christian that wants to pray for the player's safety before a game, wants to recognize the highest power, wants to recognize God in heaven.
That's a good thing!
And from whatever reason, I get the feeling that Steve Unger here thinks that that's not a good thing.
And so I'm very puzzled and confused here with his logic.
Cultural Christianity, this becomes part of the sweetness and the gentleness of life.
Kind of like the sampler on the wall that Grandma made that says, God bless our home.
It's been there so long, you barely notice it.
Cultural Christianity is just part of the national background scenery, and that's the problem.
21 years ago, this...
I don't even know how you can say that anymore.
Cultural Christianity is part of the national background.
What are you talking about, man?
No, it's not.
Not at all.
Maybe you can find it in pockets in the South, like he described praying before a football game, but nationally?
Cultural Christianity...
I mean, we are, like Aaron Wren says, we are firmly in negative world.
There was a positive world.
That was cultural Christianity, where Christianity was looked at as a positive.
And then, you know, sometime in the 90s, it went neutral.
Well, it wasn't good or bad.
And now it's firmly bad.
You're considered a bigot.
You're considered, you know, you're considered a Christo-fascist if you love Jesus, you confess Christ as king, and if you vote, congratulations, according to the left.
There's something wrong with you, and you're a Christofascist.
I don't know what he's talking about, man.
I really don't.
I mean, has he been living under a rock?
This May, just next month, I was sent from my unit just outside Baghdad to do ministry to the 1st Marine Division just after what came to be known the First Battle of Fallujah.
Their battalion chaplains were great guys, but overwhelmed.
The Iraqi Army garrison in Fallujah had been overrun by a well-coordinated insurgent attack by the forces of Abu Masab al-Zakari, with many of them captured alive.
That was a mistake.
Al-Zakari's nickname from his own people was the Sultan of Slaughter.
For the 1st Marine Division, the fighting was street to street and house to house.
But for many Marines, the aftermath was just as bad or worse.
And that involved the recovery of the dead.
On the streets, starving dogs fed on charred corpses.
Inside civilian homes were the remains of many Iraqi soldiers and police officers.
Kitchen tables and basements had been used as makeshift torture chambers.
I won't say any more.
When you go into the infantry, you train for combat.
But nothing can prepare a young American for this.
I was not in the city.
I was just across the Euphrates River at Camp Blue Diamond, where our guys came to rearm and refit.
I mostly hung out in the smoking area.
A lot of guys did not want to eat, but they really did like to smoke.
Handling dead bodies will do that to you.
In a pastoral sense, you learn that in a situation like this, there's no words.
The best you can do is just be present.
I approached a young Marine who appeared to be in a trance just to say hi.
And he said, sir, no disrespect against you, but after what I saw on the streets of Fallujah, I don't believe in God anymore.
So I gave him some space, but I did come back later and I asked him, tell me more about this God you used to believe in.
And he did.
And he opened up.
I ended up asking that same question a lot in the days, weeks, and years to come.
Iraq, Afghanistan, or my stateside office.
Were these old, young men after five or ten years of alcohol or maybe a younger wife had not numbed the pain?
And whether they were a lapsed Baptist from the hills of Georgia or a lapsed Catholic from Jersey City, the answer was the same.
The sweet, gentle, cultural Christianity of their youth had left them unarmed in the face of real evil.
Okay. Alright.
So what he is saying is...
I'm trying to...
And maybe this is just a total waste of time.
I just feel like there's such a chasm.
And I get it.
The bill in debate, though, is to put Ten Commandments on display in public schools.
Again, it passed at the Arkansas House.
I'm just putting this out there because I think this is unbelievable that this is the logic here.
So somehow, That's cultural Christianity.
It's wrong.
It's whitewashed tombs, is what he's saying.
And so somehow doing that is going to...
I guess what he's saying is it's going to give kids a false sense of Christianity, a false sense of salvation, and then if they go overseas and they experience horrors that I can't even imagine that...
Their faith will be weakened, or they never had any faith at all, and that's to blame on putting the Ten Commandments in the classroom for kids to see?
I'm sorry, and again, I haven't experienced what this chaplain has experienced, who's now a state representative, but the logic here is not connecting with me at all.
The martyrs of Hebrews chapter 11 did not flinch in the face of evil, but for cultural Christians, their faith melts like a snowball on a hot stove.
You see, emphasizing the outward trappings of holiness more than a changed heart is not just a harmless foible that we need to overlook.
It's an indication of a fatal disease.
Again, no one is saying that putting the Ten Commandments in the school is going to save someone's soul.
No one's saying that putting the Ten Commandments in the school is going to save an entire classroom.
Just like no one says, like no one out there in the Christian nationalist movement believes that if you have a Christian nation with Christian culture that the whole country is saved and the whole country are an actual regenerate Christian.
No one is saying that.
You see, the real enemy of an authentic, life-changing, heart-changing union with Christ is not forces from the outside like sex and drugs and rock and roll.
The enemy that a poster on the wall or the Bible on the coffee table can't stop is the scary thing on the inside.
It's a threat from my own heart.
My justification was completed by the work of Christ on the cross, but my sanctification can only be advanced daily by daily obedience and sabotaged only by my own honoriness.
Some days in my heart it's house-to-house fighting that only ends when I surrender to God and ask forgiveness every day that I have left until I meet him.
And see, that is the kind of faith that needs to be modeled to a kid by somebody that loves them, not a poster.
Have you ever confessed your You can have both.
You can have...
Actual discipleship out of love for somebody else and you can also have the Ten Commandments on display in public schools.
They're not mutually exclusive.
You can have both of those things in the world we live in.
Again, not following the logic at all.
You're a teenager.
Awkward. But it takes guts but it has to be done.
Cultural Christianity doesn't change anybody, but it does do a good job of inoculating young people against a life-changing encounter with the person of Jesus Christ.
The imitation has inoculated them from the real thing.
Actually, no, man.
Cultural Christianity can be the thing that actually propels them into a saving relationship with Jesus Christ.
Because you're among Other Christians, and they're not being censored, and they're allowed to freely share the gospel and go about their lives in peace.
That's the one thing cultural Christianity does do, is it secures a peaceful environment for people to go about their business in whatever it is.
Obviously, not wickedness, ideally.
There's a great little book that came out in 2019 called The Unsaved Christian by Dean Insera that does a better job of explaining the problem than I ever could.
When I was in seminary, my favorite Old Testament professor, Dr. Al Bean, once said that in the Old Testament, the Hebrews didn't really worship idols, but what they did worship was Yahweh as if he were an idol.
And it's true.
How do we do this today?
Well, it's when we do stuff like that, like this.
He is insinuating that the Arkansas General Assembly, and Arkansans by extension, are guilty of idolatry and worshiping the Ten Commandments.
And that's something, when I woke up this morning, I did not think I would hear, or that's a conclusion I didn't think I would come to.
That is incredible.
It's very similar to the woke Christians.
Who preached sermons after Obergefell came down and gay marriage was legalized.
There were Christians who preached sermons to their congregation about how they were idolizing the family.
They were idolizing a male and female marriage.
And they don't need to idolize that.
If you're outraged by the Supreme Court saying that sodomite lifestyles are now illegal and they need to be celebrated and they need to be recognized with marriage, then you are idolizing, if you're upset about that, you're idolizing the family.
Again, it's a way to pacify Christians, keep people from speaking out, keep people from organizing and trying to stop this mess and crawl back.
I think maybe you guys are idolizing the Ten Commandments by wanting to put them in public school classrooms for kids to see.
It's preposterous.
It's an absolutely preposterous position in my opinion.
And it clearly just ignores...
This is what the self-evident truth on the ground is right now, that we don't really have cultural Christianity anymore.
And the alternative, if you have a choice between picking from cultural Christianity, where there are real Christians and also people who are not Christians that are benefiting from that cultural Christianity, and a culture that promotes paganism, a culture that promotes death, a culture that calls the good things of God evil and evil things good and persecutes Christians, which one do you want for your family?
Oh, and by the way, you're not idolizing your family or idolizing your daughter or your son.
By wanting a society that's good for them.
A society where they get to memorize Scripture not because the Bible is banned and they've got to bury it in their backyard, but because they're free to worship the Lord in peace.
They're free to be raised in the fear and admonition of the Lord.
And yet, it's mentalities like this that I, it's just incredible that we have a state representative from Arkansas Republican voting against a bill for the Ten Commandments because he thinks it's the equivalent of being a Pharisee.
And I get the Pharisee vibes from him, quite honestly.
And I'm trying to be charitable here because I do really appreciate his work as a chaplain and going overseas and that sort of thing.
No doubt.
We need more of that.
But my goodness.
Exactly what kind of gospel perspective are we talking about here?
And that, friends, is why a man who did a career in military ministry is a no.
He's a no vote, and again, he insinuates that Arkansans are idolizing the Ten Commandments.
Un- Real.
Tell me what you think about it in the comments.
Again, generally speaking, I am thrilled that my home state has passed this law.
It was already passed out of the Senate.
It passed out of the House late last night, and now it is going to Governor Sarah Sanders' desk.
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Man, just wild stuff going on right now.
Anyway, let's get to some national news, shall we?
Let's see, we have this right here.
Okay, I thought this was interesting because we kind of highlighted Megyn Kelly yesterday.
She's kind of in this, I don't know, she's been worried that, we talked about it yesterday, she's worried that...
Young Republican women are complaining that men don't want to marry them because they're not wanting to give up their career and actually be a wife and a mother.
But anyways, she has said, this is what's interesting, on a totally different note, John Rich is saying that Megyn Kelly was sent the full 1,000-page manifesto of the mass murderer at Covenant School in Nashville.
So, FBI Director Kash Patel has turned over this document.
It hasn't been released yet, but they've turned it over to Megyn Kelly.
And what she says here in this video is that it's obvious that the Nashville Police Department has been lying to the public.
That much is clear.
The FBI, under the old leadership, was lying to the public.
This is, of course, about Audrey Hale, the trans terrorist that went into the Covenant Presbyterian School in Nashville and murdered children and adults.
And the bottom line is this 1,000-page manifesto is riddled with evidence that she was consumed by transgender ideology.
Radical transgender ideology is what drove her to make these killings.
This is a fact that...
The pro-LGBTQ woke sex religion defenders don't want to get out.
Of course, we've seen it in other instances, but it's no surprise.
You're giving yourself testosterone.
If you're a female, you're giving yourself testosterone.
Your body's not biologically meant to handle it, and some people literally become more aggressive.
Shocker, it's testosterone.
So that also plays a part in all of this, and it really dovetails back into what we were just talking about, cultural Christianity versus pagan.
Pagan culture, which is really what we have and what people are trying to prevent.
So anyway, which society do you want to grow up in?
Honest question.
We also have this news.
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson throwing cold water on any idea that he's going to allow bills to come to the floor that would strip President Trump of his right to set tariffs.
Mr. Speaker, there's a push by some of your members to give Congress a say.
Don Bacon has a bill to give Congress a say in reviewing the tariffs.
Why not give Congress the opportunity to have it be a chat conference?
Well, Congress will weigh in on it, but with the President, with the administration in tandem.
And I think you've got to give the President the latitude, the runway to do what it is he was elected to do, and that is get this economy going again and get our trade properly balanced with other countries.
So I think most of the American people understand the necessity of that.
A $1.2 trillion trade deficit in 2024.
I don't think that's fair to our country.
I think the American people understand that, and I think they see a president who's engaging and trying to fix that.
So we're going to give him the space necessary to do it, and we'll see how it all goes.
It is absolutely laughable that Congress is now trying to take back this power that a president has always had.
They want to take the power back from him when they have done absolutely nothing to stop the outsourcing of American jobs over decades.
And now that Congress has essentially done nothing for decades, my entire life, now that somebody's actually doing something about it, they're upset.
And I think they're upset.
Because it's their own stock portfolios that are taking the hit.
It's not their constituents.
It's the donors.
It's the lobbyists.
And it's them.
Because there's a reason why you get into Congress and you see your net worth explode.
It's because you know which stocks to buy.
Period. End of sentence.
End of story.
There is a Nancy Pelosi stock group that follows all of her trades and recommends it to other people because they're good bets.
Because they know something that the rest of us aren't privy to.
I think any conversation about tariffs and Congress trying to stop Trump from doing what he's doing has to be looked at through that lens.
Through the lens of, you guys want to continue to get richer and you're afraid that you're going to get poorer.
At least that's my two cents.
And Brian Cates over on X says, Our Congress is utterly and completely and totally compromised.
Rand Paul is upset that after Congress spent decades doing nothing to cure the trade imbalances ballooning to cartoonish proportions while taking sweet, sweet lobbyist cash, President Trump took action to fix the national security crisis.
And the solution Paul comes up with is taking more power away from the chief executive and giving it to the do-nothing Congress.
Yeah, Rand, who I agree with on a lot of other issues, or at least I thought I did, is a huge disappointment here.
Absolutely huge, utter disappointment.
What's the endgame from these tariffs?
Let's remind everybody how much money.
This is at least Trump's perspective.
I don't know if he's going to get rid of the income tax.
I'm not holding my breath, but Howard Lutnick has said something similar.
Donald Trump has intuited it as well.
This would be, again, if they were to get rid of the income tax.
By offsetting everything with tariffs, it would be the greatest transfer of liberty back to the people from the government since the American Revolution.
America is going to be very rich again, and it's going to happen very quickly.
It's time for the United States to return to the system that made us richer and more powerful than ever before.
Do you know, the United States in 1870 to 1913, all tariffs, and that was the richest period in the history of the United States, relatively speaking.
In other words, relatively.
And they set up the Great Tariff Commission of 1887.
And this commission had one function, what to do with all the money that we took in.
It was so enormous that they had no idea.
It was a blue ribbon committee.
It was set up 1887.
And what to do with all of the money that we had.
And again, Teddy Roosevelt was a beneficiary because when McKinley was killed.
He took over this vast sum of money, and he did all of those national parks and all of the other things, and I'm not knocking him, but he was given a vast amount of money, and that was all made through tariffs.
We had no income tax.
The income tax came in in 1913.
As I said in my speech last week...
So we had no income tax.
This is a very good reminder.
People are keen on this.
People are keen on this idea.
We had no income tax.
Howard Glutnick put out there that...
Once you get the deficit under control, then people that make $150,000 or less pay no taxes, which is a good start, but we want it all gone.
We want it all gone.
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I was kind of taken aback by that.
Tonight the U.S. Supreme Court vacated, this was yesterday, yesterday the United States Supreme Court vacated Judge Boesberg's block on Trump using the Alien Enemies Act to deport criminal aliens.
So that means, that means you need to pack your bags.
Pack your bags while you have time.
Now this is, a lot of people are saying that this is, once again, we have Amy Comey Barrett.
Siding with the three liberals.
It should have been a 6-3 decision.
Instead, it was a 5-4 decision.
And she once again joined the libs.
People are making connections here.
Madison Cawthorn, former congressman, saying she has been such a disappointment.
I totally agree.
Remember this meme?
This was such a meme-worthy thing.
Everybody was rushing to her defense during the confirmation hearings.
Last night it was revealed she voted against Trump and for MS-13 gang members and for Trendyagua.
It's pathetic.
But people are saying she wears her emotions on her sleeve.
So back during Donald Trump's...
It wasn't technically a State of the Union.
It was right after he got elected, so it was technically a joint session of Congress.
Back during that joint session of Congress in February...
People caught this clip of Amy Coney Barrett.
Absolutely, she could not hide her disgust at President Trump.
Watch this.
Look, there she is.
Ugh. She's just disgusted by the very sight of him.
Had to turn away, had to close her eyes.
Just the utter hatred there.
And so people have been keen on that right there.
For a while now, saying, look, it's no secret, she is no fan of Donald Trump and his policies.
Jeff Younger, who is very good and proficient at calling out the gynocracy that rules over us, feminism, he notes that all the men on the court voted the law.
All the women, including Amy Coney Barrett, voted their feelings.
I think that's true.
And I'm generalizing here, but I think that's accurate.
Now, Megan Basham, also a journalist, she's the author of the book Shepherds for Sale, which is a fantastic book if you haven't read it, about how woke Marxists have carved for themselves a safe place within the church and church institutions.
Megan Basham writes, it is the very rare woman who is not more motivated by elite social status than by a clear-eyed assessment of law and order.
Amy Coney Barrett is proving not to be that woman.
So she wants to be admitted into polite society is the idea.
She wants a seat at the table.
And I would say John Roberts does too, but you could make the argument that John Roberts also is trying to protect the court.
Now, this was great.
William Wolfe from the Center of Baptist Leadership.
What a great take.
Is this the same picture?
And it's a picture of New York Times' David French next to Coney Barrett.
I do.
I think that probably looks like the same picture to me.
We're out of time.
We'll get to this.
Pray for peace for sure.
We don't want a war with Iran.
Did we get to...
We didn't get to this either, but we're out of time.
Crockett telling the black church that it's time to change.
Maybe we'll get to this tomorrow on the program.
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