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March 14, 2025 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report: Paul Harrell Program talks Agriculture AI Technology TYRANNY with Jacob Holloway
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Yesterday, for the Paul Harrell program, I sat down once again with Jacob Holloway and we discussed agricultural AI technology tyranny and what follows is that conversation.
enjoy Alright, here we go.
Welcome to the show, folks.
This is the Paul Harrell Program.
Really appreciate you guys being with us.
This is the first Paul Harrell program of 2025, believe it or not.
And that's crazy because you and I, Jacob Holloway, we were going to be doing this, I think, in January, and we didn't get to it.
That's right.
But we've got a terrific show for you guys today.
We're going to be talking once again to Jacob Holloway.
He's been our guest on the last few that we did.
I guess this would have been in November, December.
Jacob Holloway is a recognized...
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Sorry about that.
A little technical difficulty.
Jacob Holloway is a recognized international expert and leader in agricultural technology, precision farming robotics for controlled environmental agriculture, deep-rooted background in agricultural extension in rural farming.
Jacob dedicated his career to bridging the gap between traditional farming practices and the latest advancements in automation, artificial intelligence, and machine learning.
We're going to...
Talk about that here in a minute.
Is the American farmer about to face extinction at the hands of automatic tractors and artificial intelligence?
He's got extensive experience in GIS. You'll have to tell me what that is later, Jacob.
Remote sensing, agricultural automation.
Jacob's worked in biotech, agronomy, IT sectors.
He's got a bachelor's degree in agricultural economics and agri business from the University of Arkansas, followed by a graduate degree in agricultural science from Arkansas State University and agricultural extension from New Mexico State University.
And it says here you later expanded your expertise into geopatial analytics.
Did I pronounce that right?
Geospatial Analytics, yeah.
Geospatial, okay, analytics.
Precision agriculture, AI-driven automation, and you earned your third Master's in Information Systems from Harding University.
So today, you're now a tech startup founder.
You're based out of Atlanta.
The people that have seen this before know who you are because you've been on the show before, but I think there's going to be other people watching the show.
Yeah, glad to be here, Paul.
And a very important and timely topic, given all the advancements going on in technology.
And it's kind of hard to keep up with everything that's really hitting us right now.
And I think it's really important to talk about this because it's going to affect our farmers.
And here we are in Arkansas.
This is a...
You know, a rural farming community and region.
Agriculture is the backbone of our culture here in Arkansas.
And so it's very important for our people and for all the farmers in the United States.
And I felt moved to come here today to talk about it.
Okay, so when I think about farmers facing extinction as we know it.
This is now trending.
You said it was trending.
It was trending for me earlier.
I saw this earlier in the week.
But people are wondering, somebody named Declaration of Memes over on X, how close are we to this?
Obviously, that's not real.
Okay, that's obviously a computer-generated image there.
But, you know, I've seen enough science fiction, I've seen enough Skynet, you know, Terminator to know, like, that to me is like chilling.
I don't want that.
The only thing that could be worse than that is if they had guns.
So, yeah, and that's going to be a huge issue in robotics.
But, you know, here I come today as an ag tech whistleblower.
On behalf of the farmers, on behalf of all the people who work in agriculture, and on behalf of scientists and technologists who are trying to help farmers adopt technology, because I think we're at an influx.
We're at a period where we really need to critically question the ethics of technology adoption in farming.
Ethically speaking, I think that we're going to reach a point where there are certain people in this country, there are certain groups in this country that have access to all the technology and robotics and AI that are being developed right now.
That is not here in Arkansas, obviously, and that is not in the hands of farmers.
And unfortunately, what I have witnessed through all of my research and time...
I'm going to multiple conferences, and you can put some pictures up there.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to do this.
Let's actually go there.
So I've got this...
So I've been traveling the world for years, for decades, really.
But even recently, since 2019, I've been going to...
Many different conferences.
Let me see here.
I want to get one with you.
Here's this one.
Let me throw this up on the screen.
Yeah, this one's pretty benign.
This is me in Hanover, Germany at an AgTech conference.
I'm actually trying out one of the new biofuel tractors out there, which was really interesting.
Okay, I'm glad we're starting here.
Let me see.
When was this?
This was November before last.
I was in Hanover, Germany for a huge conference call.
Well, I'm not a tractor.
I'm so much more.
I am Roboty.
Yeah.
And actually, these guys, I really like these guys.
They're one of the few companies that I've met in the ag tech sphere that's, you know, I would say more ethical.
This particular conference that I've been to twice happens in San Francisco once a year.
It's going on right now.
Yeah, so this is why it's relevant.
Because this conference, the World Agritech Innovation Summit, you were there last year.
And the year before last.
Okay, and it's just now kicked off, I think, a couple of days ago.
Yeah, it's ongoing right now.
And so, I think this is kind of...
Well, as I was talking to you offline, I'd like for you to just kind of tell us, basically, when did this all start for you?
Because...
I'm just going to summarize and you fill in the gaps.
You went to these conferences, you started asking about monarch tractors, correct?
And you didn't like the answers you were getting.
Yeah, well, and I want to use them as an example of what's going on and what not to do in ag tech adoption.
Because, you know, it started really in 2019. I went to Toulouse, France for one of the first international agricultural robotics conferences in the world.
And I was one of two American scientists that were there to look at the technology that was coming out.
And in 2019, I looked at all these agricultural robots and I said, you know, this is interesting, looks cool for Europe.
I'm excited to see when this might hit the shores of the U.S., what ag robots are going to look like here in the United States.
And then, of course, that was December 2019. Of course, we know what happened in 2020. I did not get to go to the conference that year.
And it was not until 2022 when this conference called the...
FIRA, or the International Forum for Agricultural Robotics, had their first inaugural conference in Fresno, California, in the United States.
Of course, I was there.
It was a big conference.
It was indoors.
And there was a lot of agricultural technology companies there.
At the time, I was very excited.
I met a lot of different people there.
It was a good conference.
One of the companies I ran into was this company called Monarch Tractor.
I had no idea who these people were, and I had innocently tried to get to know about their technology, and I befriended one of their marketing people, and I was just asking really basic questions about their technology.
And, you know, the interesting thing about this, you know, it was a fully electric tractor, automated tractor.
Basically, you know, they were selling is like this Tesla of tractors, basically.
And for me, it was novel.
But, you know, I had a lot of questions.
You know, I'm there.
You know, I'm former extension.
You know, I have to represent farmers.
And when I go to these ag tech conferences, I ask a lot of hard questions of these companies because they're startups.
They're VC backed.
VC, what does that mean?
Venture capital.
And so the venture capital is just pouring into these companies.
And, you know, I just want to check and see, like, you know, is this viable?
What are you all doing?
And I started asking them questions about, like, basic questions about their technology.
And they were very dodgy.
You know, the main question I asked a lot of these companies is, how do you repair your robots?
How do you repair your tech?
Because farmers know, and I know, working in agriculture, things break down.
And I just wanted to know, what would it take to repair this?
And a lot of the answers I got, and especially from Monarch Tractor, was, well, we're going to send a repair crew from California to your farm to repair your tractor for you.
And I thought, that's not going to work.
Are they going to be drones?
Well, they're going to fly a repair crew out to your farm from California.
So at the time, I just thought, this is not viable.
This is not viable technology.
They're just showing us what the future could be as a startup.
And it wasn't until about February the next year, I was in Tulare, California, and I ran into these people again, and they had a much larger demo going on at the World Ag.
Agriculture Fair.
And that's when I realized, I thought, okay, these guys are getting a lot of money.
They're getting a lot of backing.
Who are they?
Who is Monarch Tractor?
Because of all these ag tech companies, and some get picked and choose by VCs, but they were getting promoted in the mainstream media, promoted in all these different publications that farmers don't even care about.
Which led me to believe that there's an agenda behind this particular company.
And me being a student of the occult and symbolism, I realized immediately what monarch meant.
Monarch being, you know, an inside reference to Hollywood and monarch mind control and CIA monarch mind control.
And I wonder, is that a joke?
Is it a joke?
What are they trying to get across to us?
When you first came to me with this information, that was where my mind immediately went, because the symbolism there, I don't think it's ever a joke.
At the very least, it's a hat tip.
We're on the team.
Team Intel Oligarch.
And I realized that.
And, you know, and so I kind of zoomed in on them a little bit on their microscope because I met a lot of other startups, great people.
And, you know, this particular startup kept getting pushed in the media, pushed in the media.
New York Times, Washington Post, getting pushed by politicians, getting pushed by my United States senator.
You know, all these...
All these Democratic Party politicians were pushing Monarch Tractor.
And I thought, you know, and I knew that the EV thing was getting pushed by the Biden administration.
But this company was getting huge subsidies from the state of California called the Core Subsidy Program for farmers to buy their tractors.
And then on top of that, the Biden administration kicked in an EQIP program subsidy.
And mind you, this is our taxpayer dollars paying for electric tractors, and they were paying for farmers to scrap their existing tractors to buy an electric one, and it only paid for half of it.
But to scrap perfectly good tractors seemed to me to be absurd.
Certainly, you know, I know a lot of farmers who use many different funding opportunities from EQIP and...
Wetland Reserve Program and many other USDA-backed programs that are available for farmers.
I found that this one was not congruent with what all the other programs were trying to do.
It seemed to just be promoting EVs and farming and this whole push for EVs and farming.
I own an EV. I'm not necessarily against EVs, but...
I thought this is quite absurd because a lot of people would joke, they would laugh at the idea of an electric tractor.
A lot of farmers would not take this seriously.
Well, I mean, you know, you look at the...
The truck or whatever.
The cyber truck.
That's laughed at by good old boys.
It looks ridiculous.
In the South.
That's going to pull you out of a ditch and everything else.
I'm a fan of Musk, by the way.
Sure.
He's come out with some really interesting tech.
But on that side, that is something that people scoff at.
So the only way to do it would kind of be able to force it or incentivize it.
It's a cultural issue.
There's a cultural issue there.
And the culture needs to be respected.
There's cultural differences, especially here in rural areas.
You know, EV tractors are never going to take off.
And there's a lot of different reasons why.
But what really got me upset is they were coming out and saying, oh, this is environmentally friendly.
You know, like, you're going to own an EV tractor.
Like, there were posts, and I don't have them, but I watched on LinkedIn, all this stuff on LinkedIn.
And they were pushing this farm in New Zealand that went all electric, you know, as like this model for farming, you know.
And they were buying these Monarch tractors, and the people who run this farm must be really crazy because they said, you know, we hope someday that there won't be another option except for electric tractors.
And that's when I really started understanding.
I was like, this is a huge political agenda.
These people are getting all these money in subsidies.
They're going around to the VC firms and the venture capital people.
And I realized, like, going to this World Agritech Forum, and I met all of these venture capital people out there.
And I talked to all of them out there, and not one of them has a background in agriculture.
They do not understand farming or agriculture.
In fact, they don't seem interested.
And issues around agriculture.
They're just there to write checks and throw money at startups.
And I think that is reckless.
I think what's going on in ag tech is reckless.
This is not how you adopt technology.
This is not how you get farmers to adopt technology.
I think the VCs are reckless.
They're propping up companies that are hostile towards farmers, like Monarch Tractor.
Monarch Tractor is not a friend to farmers.
And these social media influencers are pushing it.
And like Leonardo DiCaprio.
They pulled Leonardo DiCaprio out to push a tractor.
And since when has Leonardo DiCaprio been interested in farming?
Well, let's just break this down.
So he wrote, back on May 15th of 2023, like other electric vehicles, electric tractors are about fighting climate change by cutting our carbon footprint.
Monarch estimates each of its EV tractors accounts for 14 passenger vehicles taken off the roads in terms of emissions.
Electric tractors, he writes, will save on fuel...
He didn't write this, by the way.
And maintenance costs.
They are lighter than most tractors, and the self-driving capability cuts down on labor costs as well.
Advocates say EV tractors should lead to less herbicide use, increased productivity, and improved worker performance or whatever else.
There's no citations there.
No citations there.
This, you know, climate change, that's what this is tied to.
That's where the push is.
That's where, you know, you've got the venture capital, I'm sure, eventually leads to BlackRock, State Street, all the, you know, Vanguard.
And so it reminds me, especially the incentives, you know, it reminds me, I don't know if you remember the Obama administration, the solar panel company, Solyndra, one of the biggest donors, the head of that, to his campaign or ran his campaign and then he got all those.
And then it was a defunct company and they literally were throwing the solar panels in the garbage by the end of the experiment because it was cheaper to throw them away than it was to warehouse them because it was a defunct, the company was defunct.
This is what it reminds me of.
So it's very similar, actually.
These people are a scam.
They're great.
Drifters is what I eventually had to realize.
The one thing that tipped me off first is it takes me a while.
I'm very nice to people.
Unfortunately, sometimes I'm too nice, and I'm very naive at times because of my niceness.
It's just coming from this area, being from Arkansas, being from a rural background.
You go to a place like San Francisco, you're in California, you're in a foreign culture.
You're basically in a foreign country.
With no manners most of the time.
People with no manners, and they look down on you.
You're looked down as a second-class citizen, and they're not really...
They're not congruent with people who farm, people who live in rural agricultural communities.
Their mentality is very urbanized, very urbanistic, very almost, I would say, they have a colonial attitude towards the rest of America, that the Bay Area and San Francisco particularly will run the country.
And they know best about everything.
And so, you know, I realized first that they were rude to me.
I got blown off.
They were rude to me.
I got yelled at by one of their marketing people for asking questions.
So how so?
So you're at the conference.
You go up, you start asking questions, and they don't want to answer the questions.
Yeah, very dodgy.
And I was trying to be nice.
Did that raise suspicion?
I was just trying to have basic conversation and shoot the breeze with these people because that's normally what people do is just try and get to know each other.
Small talk and they weren't interested in that and also yelled at me and basically in front of all their company and I was just trying to ask basic questions about maintenance and what's behind the technology and they were promoting all these things about this tractor.
And I wanted to see if it was true.
I mean, there are fallacies in this post that even they posted here that electric tractors weigh less than normal tractors, which is a total lie.
They weigh more, which is a problem for soil compaction.
I asked them about that.
I said, what do you think about soil compaction in vineyards?
There's a big problem in vineyards.
They couldn't answer that either.
So is that where they're mainly trying this out, by the way, in the California wine scene?
Because this is Carlo Mondavi.
The Mondavi wine family is behind this.
And, you know, and he's the one, what I found out from asking a lot of questions is this is really his company.
This is Carlo Mondavi's company.
The Mondavi wine family is getting into ag tech, into tractors.
And he was the one that named it Monarch Tractor and all of that.
And he's friends with Leonardo DiCaprio.
And that's where this whole thing comes in where, you know, this is a big tech elite, tech bro.
And farmers are not in it.
We're not welcome in this club.
They do not want us there at these conferences.
In fact, I went to this Agritech conference last year.
And again, I didn't see barely any farmers there.
After talking to many farmers for an entire year and saying, maybe you should go check out what's at this conference.
But most of the farmers don't want to go because this conference is overpriced.
It's like $3,000 for two days to go in there and talk to these tech bros.
And every time I've been there, they were never nice to me.
I've been there twice to this conference now and I will not go back.
Because every time I went to this conference and I've asked questions and I've tried to get to know some of these companies, they've been extremely rude towards me.
And I'm one of the few people representing rural agriculture there.
I had one person tell me, this conference isn't for farmers.
So, who's it for?
If this is an ag tech conference, who's it for if it's not for farmers?
It seems like there's an arrogance.
You're describing really an arrogance.
And I would imagine, in the tech bro sphere, that they look at farmers, obviously as less than, but they see it as something that's like, well, this is a technical step down for us, so this should be something that's easy.
We're going to push the technology on them.
They'll eventually get on board.
From what I could tell, I think this whole push, I'm very suspicious of getting to a point where a generation from now, if we don't have human beings that still have the institutional industry knowledge of how to farm and feed the world, and you're putting it in the hands of essentially robots, and I know that initial clip was not real yet, but it's really...
Anti-humanity.
It's transhumanism.
It's part of this whole transhumanist movement.
And, you know, again, it is arrogance.
It's supreme arrogance, actually.
Because, you know, I've spent years and years and years studying soil science, studying soil conservation, plant biology, all of these integrated sciences that go into farming.
And farmers spend their entire lives learning about farming.
And the fact that they think that the machines are going to replace us, essentially, is what I feel like what they think, is that eventually we will be reduced to nothing by these machines, that the AI will learn to farm, and that at some point there won't be a use for farmers anymore because the tech bros are going to take over farming.
They got it.
The tech bros have farming.
We don't need farmers anymore when the robots and the AI can farm.
What's the use for people farming?
And they really have this very arrogant mentality about it.
And they don't like farmers.
And I went to this conference.
I met the people at Google as well.
It was another company I met.
It was absolutely horrible towards me.
And I tried to get to know the people at Google because they had this company called Mineral AI. And they were just developing this AI company for farmers, yet they never talked to any farmers.
Tried to talk to them.
I was like, okay, Google's trying to get into farming.
What are y'all doing?
And I was talking to the head of their person for this mineral AI, and she was just totally blowing me off.
Was really mean person.
Was not interested in knowing anything about farming or agriculture.
And I got really mad.
I go on LinkedIn.
I use LinkedIn as a...
I started calling out Mineral AI and Google.
I basically said, we don't want y'all in agriculture.
You don't want to talk to us.
You don't want to have any interaction with people in agriculture or farming, yet you say you want to bring out this company, Mineral AI. I said, well, maybe we don't want you in farming.
Maybe we don't want you in our industry.
In fact, we don't need your technology.
And that's kind of really my message here to all the tech bros, including Monarch Tractor and San Francisco Agritech people and your stupid conference that I'm not going to go and spend my money or time on anymore.
In fact, I'm telling farmers and everyone to boycott this conference and to boycott your stupid startups because we don't...
You actually need your technology to farm.
People have been farming without technology, without AI or robotics for centuries, for thousands of years.
And the main problems in agriculture are not going to be solved by robots or AI. It's going to be solved through soil conservation and conservation tillage and cover cropping and water conservation.
And that's going to be done by people who are scientists and studying and working with farmers and out in the field, actually collecting data and monitoring and looking at plants and learning about science.
It's not going to be solved by robots and AI. And yeah, robots and AI are a tool in that.
But it's not going to replace people, and it's certainly not a panacea for our problems that really are natural resource-related issues.
There are issues in automation and labor and agriculture which are serious, but the real issues in farming have to deal with natural resource problems.
And they don't care to hear that.
They don't care to hear what farmers are actually going through.
Because I go to these conferences and I talk to these people, And some of the questions I ask about is like, how would farmers finance this?
Because one of the biggest problems in agriculture right now, and I've been an extension agent, I've been to farmers' houses, I've seen farmers bring out their workbooks and try and balance their farm books while I'm at their house, because most farmers are in debt.
And that's a serious issue in agriculture.
And what are we doing about getting farmers out of debt?
Farmers in America are at a crisis.
They're committing suicide.
It was just on KAIT like a year or so ago.
Suicide crisis for farmers in Arkansas.
I was just talking to a friend last night who's actually in the industry saying that right now there's a lot of farmers out there very depressed.
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Yeah.
So to your point, you know, and I keep putting this building.
Bill and Melinda Gates' workshop that's at this World Agritech Innovation Summit.
I keep putting it up on the screen because there are those headlines of Bill Gates buying up a lot of the farmland.
You think about food supply and communism and getting control of the food supply and replacing farmers with robots.
It might not be an immediate threat, but I'm sorry.
That's what I think these people are up to.
Yeah, they don't care about rural farmer suicides.
Bill Gates doesn't care about rural farmer suicides.
And the people at this conference who are pushing Bill Gates, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, onto farmers or his new Ag One Foundation, whatever it is, whatever it is, it's evil.
And I spotted this long ago that the tech bros were trying to get into farming and there's nothing good that's going to come of this.
There's really nothing good that's going to come of this because they're not interested in ethics as far as like...
Ethics as a discipline in technology adoption, which is something huge we talk about in agricultural extension and tech adoption.
I try and go up there and talk to these people because I have this background in extension.
I was a former extension professor.
They're not interested.
They don't care.
They don't care about rural farmers, rural communities, and they don't care about the future of agriculture so much as it is now, as much as they want to seize control of it.
with their technology and money and they will push us out and they don't care if farmers are killing themselves because they're in debt because actually that's probably part of the whole agenda is to get rid of farmers Or just let them off themselves.
So Bill Gates can come in and buy their farmland and put us all out, you know, off the farm.
And that's, you know.
So tell us more about the company, Monarch.
Where are they now?
What are they doing now?
So, you know, they're out of the Bay Area and they're pushing these tractors.
And, you know, everything I've seen about them is their company's failing.
And the more that their company fails, because I looked them up on Glassdoor, I reached out to farmers who bought their tractors, and I looked at their product reviews online and talked to other farmers, and no one's happy with their technology.
And these people...
This is all just a huge PR push.
This is just all a huge marketing and PR campaign to push this technology out there so that the VCs will fund it because Monarch Tractor...
Came out of Lordstown, Ohio, and that was Lordstown Motors out of out of Ohio that was a failed company.
And when they pushed, you know, that that that that failed Lordstown truck that they they were making there, that same that company got into so many problems because of Misleading their investors, putting in fake orders, fluffing up the numbers.
Here we go right here.
SEC charges Lordstown Motors with misleading investors about company's flagship electric vehicle.
This was last year this happened.
Yeah, and so now Monarch Tractor's in the same factory.
Foxconn is now building their...
Building their tractor.
And the Monarch people did the same thing.
I have them on the media saying, oh, we're going to build 1,000 tractors this year.
They're nowhere near 1,000 tractors.
They're maybe halfway to 1,000.
But when you come out and say, we have orders for thousands of tractors to get more investors on board.
You're misleading your investors.
You're lying.
You're lying, and that's investor fraud.
I think that they're guilty of investment fraud.
They're scamming VCs out of money to fund their tractor company, to fund this electric vehicle scam that they're pushing, and they're trying to scam farmers into buying it so it looks like there's demand for electric tractors when there's not.
Do the tractors work?
Everything I've heard is that the tractors are breaking down.
You can't fix them.
I have an email from a farmer.
I saw that email.
Here's somebody who says, I had a truly disappointing experience with Monarch Tractor.
I took delivery of their newest tractor, MKV, last December.
I followed the guidelines provided by Monarch and PG&E meticulously.
He says I invested in a charger.
As recommended, invest in professional installation with qualified electrician company.
I've also paid my team for professional training.
Despite these efforts, the model I received never charged properly.
I've been in contact with Monarch support since February to resolve the issue, but to no avail, nor have they offered to take back their defective product with a refund.
So he says, since two full months is plenty of time to resolve a critical issue, and my investment has been significant, and I was planning, cultivating, and mowing in my ranch with a tractor, which has been impossible, obviously.
And then he goes on to say, since the device is dead, I must report my extreme disappointment with this company.
I am sorry to say I recommend to stay away from their products, their businesses.
It says, reading the other reviews, I see this does seem to be a good place to work.
Yeah, this does seem to be a good place to work.
Does it seem?
Say that again?
He said it doesn't seem to be a good place to work.
Okay, it doesn't seem to be a good place to work, which is not necessarily incompatible with products being faulty.
And there's even more.
You sent me some of these things.
It says it's badly designed, terrible for vineyard use.
We have others.
It rolls.
It rolls.
Really?
Well, that's a big red flag.
Yeah.
A tractor that rolls.
The way they designed it, they never talked to a farmer.
They never talked to a farmer when they designed the tractor because you know that you need the wheels out where you can see them.
When you're setting up in the cab, you can't see where the wheels are.
Wow.
It's really dangerous.
It's a dangerous vehicle.
Wow.
Yeah, and then there's not...
Other people are saying...
There's no job security.
There's just a ton of stuff up there about this particular company, Monarch.
You go on Glassdoor, read the employee reviews.
Some of them have disappeared.
Some of the worst employee does.
And I've archived them and saved them.
But they're also...
Hostile work environment.
Wow.
Yeah, they're also treating their employees very badly.
You know, and that just goes back to their corporate leadership and their whole mentality about everything, I think, is they just don't care.
They're not good people.
They're not the kind of people that farmers would want to do business with.
And why are they getting pushed on us?
That's what I want to know.
Why are the VC firms and all these ag tech groups pushing this technology?
Why are they forcing it on farmers and trying to force us to take it?
And that's because there's an agenda here.
This tractor, by the way, what they don't tell you is it has a Wingspan AI, which is an Amazon Jeff Bezos-backed company.
What's that Wingspan AI? Yeah, Wingspan AI is a Jeff Bezos company.
Partnering with Amazon.
So they're already bringing in big tech and the big tech bros.
And Praveen Pitmitsva, the CEO of this company, was up there with Jeff Bezos on stage.
One of Jeff Bezos' big, you know, things in San Francisco with this Wingspan AI push.
And Wingspan AI, just to let you know what it does, some of what it does, is buy on your farm.
And so you'll have a tractor on your farm spying on you.
What it does actually, and they promote it as a good thing, but it is collecting data on your farm and making analytical reports on how much your carbon footprint is on your farm.
So this is a way to start monitoring, engaging your farm's carbon footprint because you can have a monarch tractor on your farm and the monarch tractor.
Is designed to develop algorithms to basically collect data to say how much is your carbon footprint.
And so farmers will be, I don't know, judged by that, I guess.
Either they'll get tax credits or be incentivized to lower it or whatever.
But the fact is, is that this technology is meant to control farmers.
It's not meant to help them.
It's meant to control them and bring them into a digital control grid.
Most farmers are looking for older tractors.
They're looking for tractors built in the 80s and 70s and 90s because they don't have computer systems in them because farmers can work on them.
You go to any farmer out here to the edge of town, talk to some rice farmers out in Bono.
And ask them, what kind of farm equipment are you looking for?
They're going to say it's older equipment.
They don't like the newer equipment because John Deere and all the other equipment manufacturers went full digital on things and farmers can't fix their tractors.
And it's this whole right to repair issue.
How are you going to repair this?
I was talking to farmers over the weekend and I was asking them, do you know how to weld?
I had ulterior motives because I was thinking about...
I'm not a welder, but I am a barbecue enthusiast.
Same here.
But the idea is, yeah, I mean, farmers are working on their equipment and welding and doing all kinds of things all the time.
And, you know, the digital stuff, they're not, I'm assuming most of them are not, you know, like computer science majors.
No, and they don't, you know, and they...
They understand data and all of that.
Well, yeah, of course.
At the end of the day, they need equipment that is reliable and works and that they can fix on the fly in their shops.
If you're giving them something that you need a team from California to come out and fix and it doesn't even work from the beginning, what are you pushing on us?
Why are you trying to get people to buy this?
Why is the U.S. government pushing it?
Why is the California government pushing it?
And that's all of this agenda.
It's the Tech Bro agenda.
And the Tech Bro agenda is a transhumanist agenda.
It is an anti-human agenda.
And it is tech above all.
It is tech above all.
And many of them, I think, really do believe in their superiority over us because of their access to technology.
It's very disturbing, that mentality.
How exactly do you think they'll...
They've got to have a plan, unless it's just another Solyndra and they're just in it for the grift, which I think that's true, but how are they going to get some good old boy farmer in the Mississippi Delta to adopt this stuff?
There has to be...
Well, if they were going to do it right, and I try to...
I try and come to these companies and give them my opportunity to have access to talk to farmers because, you know, I've been an Extension agent for many years and I have many contacts in Agricultural Extension and we know who all the farmers are and, you know, I try to give them a chance to demo their product and a lot of them will not do demos with Extension because Agricultural Extension Service is a free public service.
Provided by our land-grant universities.
Here it's the University of Arkansas, and everything that Extension does has to be peer-reviewed, science-based.
We cannot promote anything.
We can show it to farmers, and we can show Extension publications that are based on our research.
So the problem is that a company like Monarch Tractor doesn't want to turn over their technology to Extension because as soon as...
Let's say the Extension Service starts testing their tractor, they're going to come out with publications that are research and science-based that's going to say the real numbers about how long the batteries last and what kind of maintenance it needs and what temperatures and things that can operate because EVs can't operate in the cold at the same rate as in warm weather.
I don't think this would work even in the Midwest, where it's very cold in the winter.
I think EV tractors might be good for California or Florida or South Texas, but certainly not in the Midwest or the North, where you need something that's going to be reliable in the winter.
And tractors do get used in the winter.
Farmers use them for other things, not just farming.
They need them for other tasks around the farm.
And that's the kind of stuff that a company like this is afraid of because they're hiding.
I think they're really hiding how dysfunctional their technology really is.
It's not as advanced as what they may seem.
Really, it's a smokescreen.
The technology is a smokescreen for the grift because the tech bros are always grifting.
The new grift is AI. And Monarch Tractor goes on and on and on about their AI, their AI. I don't know what their AI really does because I tried to ask them questions about, well, You know, they have all these sensors on this tractor and they were saying, oh, it's going to sense pests and it's going to sense fruit diseases and all of that.
And I thought, that's cool.
But how?
Like, you know, it needs to be trained.
I know how AI works.
You need to train the AI. Have you been training the AI to look at these things?
And then when you find out, you talk to other people and it's like, oh, it doesn't really work that way.
They're just saying that.
They're just saying that it does that and hoping you don't notice or know really what they're saying is just, Just a lie, you know, to promote their company.
And it's this whole VC-backed tech rift.
And what really upsets me, and I've been saying this now for a while on LinkedIn, is that I believe technology should be in the hands of farmers, that farmers should be able to steer the path and direction of ag tech, and they should have a say in this, and they should be engaged in tech adoption.
And we're not getting that engagement from these VC-backed firms out of the Bay Area.
They are just really not interested.
And engaging with farmers at all.
And that was a shock to me.
I just thought that was shocking because at the end of the day, I was there to find, I thought I was very excited about all this stuff.
I thought agrobotics and AI, you know, I need to learn as much about this as possible.
This is very exciting.
This is going to be useful for farmers.
And what I found out was really disturbing and kind of shocking and a big letdown is that.
It's probably not going to help farmers.
These people don't know what they're doing, and they're not interested in even working with us.
So what is all this actually about?
That's where I have to start asking that question.
You remember that cash for clunkers thing under the Obama administration?
Yeah, that's exactly what this is.
This gives me those type of vibes.
Yeah, they want you to trash your existing tractor to buy a monarch.
And they're only going to pay for half the monarch to trash your tractor.
And what a waste.
Because EV tractors actually are not environmentally friendly.
If you look into EVs and what it takes to make the batteries.
And the slavery in Africa, the child slavery that's going on in some of these mines.
They're trying to make us look like we're bad because farmers are farming and it's causing...
Carbon emissions.
Yes, and they're trying to make us look like we're morally corrupt for emitting greenhouse gases, but what's more morally corrupt, I think, is that you're engaged in child slavery to build these batteries, and why are the liberals celebrating this?
They should be saying we don't want child slavery.
You're exactly right, but yeah.
Modern leftists have abandoned critical thought.
They're humanity.
NPCs, they do whatever the government says now, which is crazy.
That didn't used to be a thing.
They used to be anti-corporation.
We've gone through this whole interview 43 minutes in.
I haven't really even shown what one of these looks like.
This tractor looks goofy.
It looks ugly.
It's painted Battleship Gray.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, very much a...
Yeah, very much.
It looks depressing.
I think it's supposed to look techie, but...
Yeah, the communist apartments of today.
Well, and actually one of the other farmers on that forum, I'll just say that he looked at it and said they built this without ever talking to a farmer.
And the main thing is it's going to roll.
Well, look at those wheels.
Yeah, you were saying...
The wheels on the front need to be further out so that the person who's driving the tractor can see the front where the wheels are when they turn and have the wheels...
No one ever talked to a farmer.
Well, Jacob, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if it rolls, because they'll have a robot driving it, and the robots are expendable.
Yes.
Well, it is a self-driving tractor, and to that point, I don't understand all the benefits of that.
A self-driving tractor with a steering wheel.
So, I mean, it is made for humans to use.
It is made for humans to use.
They say it's driver optional.
It's like a Roomba.
And those don't work very well.
And this can only go up and down rows.
And so it's got very basic limited functionality, actually, is what I understand about it.
And it actually doesn't even really work well.
They're trying to push it into dairy farms now, and I've tried to warn the Dairy Farmers Association of America about this.
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You know, and I've just been fighting these people for years.
Every time they come out, Monarch Tractor comes out with these absurd, insane claims about their technology and that they're going to go sell it to another group of farmers.
And, you know, I'm always right behind them trying to warn all these farmers.
Unfortunately, they have like all the media behind them.
They got CNN, MSNBC. Washington Post, New York Times, name them off.
Every single social media influencer pushing them.
Leonardo DiCaprio, Hollywood's behind them.
Once you link it to climate change, that opens a lot of doors.
You're trying to save the planet.
Yeah, and Mondavi, you know, Carla Mondavi and them are all connected to the Bay Area Hollywood elite.
Again, they've made this association of being the monarch.
My CIA mind control tractor and just throw it up.
Just throw it up who, you know, bringing out Leonardo DiCaprio as their as their brand ambassador.
You know, I think, you know, is to let us know that these really are.
Do you got the little connection with Leonardo DiCaprio?
Ah, you mean the celebrity map?
Yeah, I wanted to show the map.
I mapped out the elite.
All right, you're going to have to interpret this for me.
Because for years, I've been mapping out the elite for years, and I've been engaged in a campaign.
These are all the people who are connected to Jeffrey Epstein in the world.
That's what this is?
Yeah, these are all the people in the world.
Every single dot on this map is...
This is Graph Commons.
This is Epstein?
These are people who are connected to Epstein.
I've just clicked on Leonardo DiCaprio and took a screenshot there.
Did you make this?
Well, this has been a collaborative effort, but I can't say who's been involved in it.
Okay, okay, okay.
So you're saying...
So Leonardo DiCaprio is directly connected to Jeffrey Epstein, and we know that now.
That came out just last year.
And DiCaprio likes his women young, blah, blah, blah.
We already know that.
So I thought it was very strange that this whole Hollywood connection is connected to Epstein.
All the people in the elite, it doesn't matter who you point to, there's a Jeffrey Epstein connection.
Jeffrey Epstein...
Wow.
Yeah, I know.
I didn't think this was going here.
When you sent this to me, I didn't really understand what exactly it was.
This is just one node on the Epstein map, but this is the part of the Hollywood node.
Are all of these other nodes...
And they're all connected to each other.
But I only have one photo.
Yeah, I know.
This is kind of secret proprietary.
I know, but it's some sort of, like, you guys, you and whoever, have created some sort of interactive Epstein connection.
Yes, yes.
That is insane, man.
That looks like a ton of work.
Yeah, it has been years and years in the making.
This has probably been going on for five, seven years.
But I see here, what you're saying is...
You've got Carlo Mondavi's connected to DiCaprio, DiCaprio directly to Epstein.
So, you know, you're bringing in Hollywood.
Would to push agricultural technology.
You know, you're bringing in Leonardo DiCaprio is your brand ambassador.
Red flags.
Red flags, you know, especially with the Epstein connection now.
So, you know, I can only question, like, is the Mondavi family also connected to Epstein?
You know, what are their connections in this whole Bay Area elite?
How many of these people in Hollywood, you know, we know that they're connected to Epstein.
Now all these names are coming out.
So, you know, I would just caution you.
Be careful who you promote because you start promoting people in Hollywood.
There's not any of them that are not compromised.
And people know this.
This is general information now.
This is out in the open.
10, 15 years ago, you're crazy.
Now you can see it.
And that's why I put this up here.
I wanted to show these are the kind of people who are trying to get into agriculture.
Okay, okay.
I understand.
Yeah.
And do we want them here?
Do we want them involved in the future of agricultural technology, given their background and the kinds of people who live in California in the Bay Area and have this power of technology?
Well, it certainly would be beneficial if we could get the Epstein list.
Oh, certainly.
I mean, but now we've got more delays.
You know, everybody's really frustrated.
Yeah.
About the lack of the Epstein list.
Oh, certainly.
And they don't want that coming out.
But, I mean, can you imagine, though?
I mean, my comment on it is, wow, could you imagine how disclosing everything would essentially ruin, you know, not just the schemes of sex traffickers, but also all of their side projects, potentially, like...
Trying to take over farming and erase the farmer and, again, in a generation, again, getting rid of the institutional knowledge that human beings know how to feed themselves.
Certainly.
And so what I want to do now, you know, is a couple different things, you know, while I wrap this up, is that, you know, I want to say to the folks at Monarch Tractor that you've been exposed.
I'm going to continue exposing you.
I'm going to continue going to conferences, pointing out your fraud and scam.
I'm using you as an example of how not to approach farmers and how ag tech fails.
And I'm going to write this in a textbook someday and teach it in a class.
To the folks at the Agritech conference in San Francisco.
Your conference is a scam.
I'm exposing this.
I'm also telling farmers not to attend.
You can reach out to me if you like.
I'm willing to discuss this with y'all.
But everything I see about your conference, I don't like it.
And it seems to be an anti-farmer agenda.
So I'm going to start speaking out against your conference.
And I don't really see any of these speakers here as anyone who's actually friendly to farming.
To the VCs in the Bay Area, I have to say to you, stop funding failed startups.
Stop dumping your stupid money into any startup and shiny thing that you see because you're just wasting your money.
There's a lot of other great startups across this country that are not in the Bay Area, and especially in agriculture and ag tech.
Could you look outside of the Bay Area in California for a startup anywhere else in this country and fund that?
You know, what's y'all's agenda?
And, you know, and now to Secretary Rollins and to the USDA. Please look into all this public funding that is being put into these ag tech companies, specifically EV tractors.
Can you stop the EQIP program and stop paying farmers to junk their tractors to buy an electric tractor?
I don't know how long this program is going on, but please cease this immediately.
I will be reaching out to your office after this conversation that I'm having right now to formally ask that you stop any other subsidies to Monarch Tractor or to EV tractors.
I think you should seriously take ag tech as a serious issue that's going to impact our farmers.
Farmers need help adopting appropriate technology.
And not technology that's being pushed by these large VCs out of the Bay Area.
There's better people out here in the country who actually care about farmers who want to help them adopt good technology.
But we're going to need the USDA and the Cooperative Extension Service and farmers involved in that and not just big tech and tech bros and the VCs.
So, Mr. President, hope you're listening to this.
I'm going to send this to your office as well and follow up with you all on all these issues.
Wow.
Where do you fall down on...
It seems like the narrative about artificial intelligence is we've got to get the good guys, whoever they are, they've got to get a corner on the AI before the bad guys.
And so there's this allegedly, you know...
AI arms race, I guess you could call it.
Do you believe all of that?
Are there good guys that are actually going to do...
I don't think there's any good guys.
I don't think there's any good guys in AI right now.
Because all the technology is being held by a small few.
And most people don't understand how artificial intelligence even works.
How you train the AI. What goes into this?
And so there's a huge gap in understanding.
And there's a huge gap in knowledge that just is not publicly available.
Most people have not studied AI and how it works.
There's very basic AI, and then there's quite advanced AI. The really advanced AI, we haven't seen.
And I think there's a lot of secrets out there that we're not hearing about, like where AI is going and where it's going to be taking us.
And, yeah, I'm quite concerned about this gap in knowledge and gap in access to technology because the people in, again, in the San Francisco Bay Area who have access to all this technology and venture capital, they're off doing their own thing.
And they do not care about the rest of us.
They really see themselves as this breakaway colonial civilization controlling America.
And so I repudiate the tech bros.
I repudiate the VCs.
I repudiate the Bay Area.
I condemn y'all in what you are doing.
I see what you're doing.
The rest of us in America see what you're doing.
You cannot hide anymore.
Elon Musk, he needs to pick a side too.
Because he's straddling the tech bro fence.
And at some point, he's going to have to decide, are you with the Bay Area tech bros?
Are you going to be with the rest of America?
Because the rest of America...
Is the land of freedom and the Constitution and humanity, pro-humanity.
And the tech bros in San Francisco are the breakaway, rebellious civilizations.
Transhumanists.
Transhumanists.
And they are not welcome.
Here in our country anymore.
I'm going to say you're not welcome here and we don't want your technology and you're welcome to have your breakaway civilization outside of the United States.
We don't need your AI or your robotics.
You're free to leave.
Thank you for showing us your technology.
We really don't need it.
Perfectly fine lives without AI and robotics controlling it.
Yeah.
No, I completely agree with that.
And so just in general, I mean, I'm glad we were able to kind of maybe focus down on this one aspect because it's coming really into every industry.
I was reading a post.
I can't remember who it was.
This was a couple of weeks ago.
But it was essentially saying, you know, the family unit kind of is one of the bedrock, bedrocks of our civilization, of any civilization or whatever.
But the other thing is it's like a job, like what you do for a living is also, and this post was saying that, you know, the AI actually is going to come for lawyers and doctors before it comes for plumbers and electricians.
And I don't know if that's true or not, but really the idea of what happens when you – And the World Economic Forum talks about this.
What are we going to do with all these people?
Well, we'll give them video games and drugs.
They've actually said this.
And so this agenda, I think, what we've been talking about today with farming, it goes right along with this problem they think they have, which is what do we do with all these useless human beings after we take away their job?
They don't see a value in humanity.
And because of that, we're at war.
And we're really at war.
Most Americans don't know that we're at war with...
The tech bros.
But the tech bros declared war on us decades ago and that they don't see us in their future with their AI and their robotics.
And they've really developed an AI that they think is going to replace God.
And if you're a Christian, you should find this very concerning.
That many of the tech bros see AI as the new God, is that they're going to create God, that humans will create God.
God doesn't exist now, but AI will be the new God, and that is the new religion.
I have so many problems with that.
What an understatement.
I have so many problems with that.
Unbelievable.
Well, Jacob Holloway, we really appreciate it.
Can people find you online anywhere if they want to follow your stuff?
Yeah, you can find me on LinkedIn under my name, but I'm kind of hidden there.
But you can also find me on Instagram at onelostarchy.
You can find me on Instagram and follow me there.
I just post travel photos.
Nothing political, but more than happy to engage with anybody who wants to continue this conversation.
I'm always open to coming back on again and talking more about some of this stuff.
Yeah, I know we've got some more stuff that we're going to talk about as well.
It's always great to have you on, sir.
It's been a lot of fun.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's been awesome.
Folks, thank you for tuning in, and we'll see you next time.
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