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Feb. 5, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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Logos Academy Episode 33: Ian Malcolm

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	Thank you.
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	We are live.
	So, welcome over on...
	We're on a lot of platforms today.
	Let me just kind of preface with what we're doing on the show today.
	So we're actually in a Twitter space right now with Ian Malcolm and everybody listening down in the audience below.
	We're also streaming on Rumble, Odyssey.
	We're on Rumble Studio on the Stu Peters Network.
	We're on ftjmedia.com, which is a new free speech platform.
	So you guys can watch on any of those platforms.
	You can chat live.
	Because we're going to be very much in a conversation, I'm not going to be reading the chats, but I typically do read the chats if I'm not with a guest on my show.
	So with that said, today we're with Ian Malcolm.
	We're going to kind of kick off with an interview of Ian Malcolm, kind of go into his background a little bit, kind of how he got into these things, where he lies politically.
	And then we'll kind of push this into a conversation about, you know, modern day politics and what we see going on, which obviously anybody who's seen the Trump pushing the chair in, clearly we are not in great shape.
	So to kick us off, Ian, maybe if you just kind of want to, and, you know, it might be a little redundant for the Twitter space audience, but for those that are listening over on the network here.
	If you want to maybe just introduce yourself a little bit, kind of what it is that you do as a space host, and maybe just how long you've been doing this.
	Yeah, absolutely, and hello and good day.
	As I normally say in my spaces, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world listening to Zach's program here.
	And so this is Ian Malcolm 84, wow, on Twitter.
	What a formal way to introduce myself, I suppose.
	But no, what would I say?
	At 50,000 feet, for those unfamiliar with me, I guess I am a theologian in some senses that tries to look at not only the political ideologies, but also the theologies that construct them.
	The history that has brought us to the present that we all exist in.
	Trying to unwrap that so maybe I can be part of the construction of a better tomorrow and a better future.
	Not just for myself, but for anybody and everybody that's out there on this beautiful earth that I believe God has constructed for us to live in.
	And, you know, I kind of say that as a rough orientation or a northern star because as long as I can remember.
	You know, I've romanticized the idea of being a hero, largely and loosely speaking.
	You know, what does it mean to be heroic?
	And I think at the end of the day, whether you're approaching merely for the benefit of your family, your community, or for, you know, human beings at large and at scale, to be heroic is to seek that which will bring about that better tomorrow that I aim myself for.
	And so in doing so, I started looking at the political landscape quite a while ago, found myself in the traditional left-right perspective and prism, analyzing the world, and what became very curious and strange is that as president after president after president went by, What I noticed is that, for some reason, the American landscape got worse and worse and worse and worse.
	And I say that from perspectives of not just kind of political freedoms and liberties, but economic opportunity, prosperity, cultural decline.
	And I mean, I could talk about each of those in and of themselves, right?
	We could even look at the larger...
	Kind of picture that is the once homogenous U.S. and Western European landscapes.
	And we see them being overrun not only with degeneracy across all of our culture, where we now have music guests on Saturday Night Live or at the Oscars, you know, singing a song with devil horns and dressed up in a red wedding dress.
	And that's a man that's doing that, right?
	And I'm looking at this landscape and saying, how did we go from the Beatles?
	To the Bee Gees, to perhaps Britney Spears, and now we've arrived at this world today where what was Madonna kissing Britney Spears that was considered culturally shocking?
	By today's standards, that belongs in a G-rated cartoon for kids, right?
	And so it's like, how has this culture continued to decline?
	How has the American middle class seen the dollar inflated 16 times?
	While average incomes have only gone up 4x in a short period of time.
	What does that mean?
	It means everybody is 75% poorer.
	So whether it's the culture that we live in, the economic opportunity that people once had that is long gone, or whether it's the once homogenous Western world that's being overrun by migrants, at every single turn, we see that the people in charge appear to be Completely uninterested in the prosperity, the peace, the safety of their people.
	And so I started thinking through why that might be.
	And not only things like 9-11, but as you rolled up to, in particular, it was the COVID window, where I started looking around and I said, I no longer think that we might get to Orwellian times, but I thought to myself, the ownership of the media...
	Big pharmaceuticals, the politicians, the culture, everyone, Fortune 500 companies.
	All of these people are in unison saying that we all need to go and get these medical jabs.
	And so I started looking around and trying to understand who was at the top of those organizations.
	And I listened to people like Curtis Yarvin, who talked about the cathedral, which I found very curious.
	You know, he's a political philosopher who was able to realize everything swam in unison.
	But he, being ironically Jewish, Use that term, and then I looked at the leadership hierarchy that he talked about, and I noticed at the top of almost all of them, the media institutions, the funding of the politicians, the leadership of the pharmaceutical industries.
	Well, what do you know?
	They all have a common denominator, and it came from a very, very tiny group of people.
	And so about a year and a half ago, if I'm not mistaken, I took to X. I started talking about some of these things.
	I viewed Elon Musk as a champion for free speech in a social media apparatus, ironically, almost exclusively owned by that same group of people across Facebook, Google, etc.
	And I found myself looking at that and saying, hey, maybe there's a sliver of an opportunity to have dialogue on these things.
	And so I started tweeting.
	Some of those written texts seemed to resonate.
	Started then speaking in spaces, the first of which was ironically.
	In a Stu Peters space, where I kind of mustered up the courage to ask him a question.
	I was very humbled that he would even field it from my teeny tiny account.
	And fast forward about a year later, and we're, I guess, approaching about 60,000 or so followers at this point.
	But I really don't care for the numbers, to be honest.
	And Zach, I know from our engagements that that's not your mission either.
	You know, it has nothing to do.
	I could have six people, 600, 6,000, 6 million.
	Curious number there.
	I'm listening!
	And at the end of the day, I would continue doing the thing that I'm doing because, back to that idea of what does it mean to be a hero, I want to make the world a better place.
	And I'm going to do anything that I can with whatever I can, whenever I can, to loosely quote Lucas Gage, to try and bring that about.
	So I've been hosting Spaces and I've been honored to speak with people like yourself, Stu Peters, Lucas Gage, David Duke.
	You know, in a litany of other individuals that, frankly, a year ago, not only what I have not expected to be able to connect with, but two years ago, I probably wouldn't have even been all that familiar with their literature and their work.
	And so it's really been a pretty big evolution to go from this politically interested and motivated individual to one that realizes, back to that religious...
	Aspect, that there's something bigger.
	There's a higher power and a higher purpose to what we're doing.
	And I believe for what it's worth that that's why this little endeavor I've taken has gone from, you know, a teeny tiny little audience to an ever increasing one, because we are tapping into something that is eternal.
	And it is a fight for good and evil.
	It's one that people are starting to notice.
	And it's that every single day, as recently as yesterday with Trump and Netanyahu, which we'll definitely get into.
	We just see affirmed over and over and over again that there's a power structure that we have to discuss.
	So I apologize if that was a lengthy intro, but hopefully it was helpful.
	No, it was a good, solid intro.
	I'm actually curious.
	So when you started on Twitter, did you have a thought process in mind with what you wanted to do on Twitter?
	Because, you know, you post all of these infographs underneath people's posts.
	Sometimes you just post them on your own page.
	You're doing Twitter spaces.
	Did you have any of these things in mind when you started your account?
	Or was this kind of just a natural thing that started to occur? - Yeah, that's a really interesting question.
	It actually plays into this.
	Overarching talk track.
	And I say that because when I initially got on here, it was largely thinking, I need to talk about things like COVID. Which, ironically, if I look back at the people and the influencers that I was listening to during that time, I would turn to some of the professorial or the doctoral side of things, like Robert Malone.
	But then I also found myself listening a lot to Eric Weinstein, for example.
	I would listen to Matt Walsh, some of these other individuals, right, that we now look back at, and it's like, wow, curious, the Weinsteins, you know, Daily Wire, I wonder where they're getting their funding and all those things.
	But anyway, the original intent was to seek truth.
	And I saw things that you weren't allowed to really discuss, like, for example, COVID, which if we go all the way back to the beginning, the origin story of that, I remember the days being told, actually, About a month into COVID, because I was always a little bit of a skeptic, and I suppose you could call it a conspiracy theorist.
	And I remember during COVID, a personal friend of mine talking about the Wuhan Lab of Virology.
	And, you know, I said to him, oh, wait, okay, you think it came from there, but you don't think it came from the market.
	Like, where would you get that?
	And he shared with me two images, and one was Google Earth and Google Maps.
	Prior to the COVID outbreak, and the second was after the COVID outbreak.
	What's very curious is that the Wuhan lab of virology was gone from the latter.
	And I looked at that and I said, wait a second.
	Google removed something.
	That's really strange.
	And I bring up that story because whether it was issues like COVID, like mass migration, like cultural degeneracy.
	I've always tried to root my presentation of ideas through that which I can demonstrate.
	And as I started getting more and more down this rabbit hole that is the JQ, the Jewish question, and I started looking historically, what I realized is that from Martin Luther all the way up to Solzhenitsyn and to some of the great truth-tellers of the modern era like yourself, that the things that are most effective is that which you cannot debate.
	You can't list as merely being hateful.
	You have to just say, yes, this is true.
	And so for anybody that's not familiar with my kind of efforts on Twitter, what I realized was the moment I started talking about Jewish over-representation, I got a lot of pushback, and I still do to this very day.
	And people say, I hate this, that, and the other thing.
	I don't hate anybody.
	I want the world to be better for anyone and everyone that's walking this beautiful planet that we're gifted.
	And that's for Jews and Gentiles alike.
	And I say that because what we are seeing is the suppression of uncomfortable truths about a certain group of people that if you talk about, you're listed as hateful.
	We've got new legislation under the Trump administration that could prospectively get people deported.
	I think there's a very real possibility that just like under the Bolsheviks, we could find ourselves in a world where you can be imprisoned for discussing these truths.
	And so I say that because, you know, I started looking at it.
	And I was in a space actually earlier today with a bunch of folks from the MAGA movement.
	And they were all talking about how it's the liberals and it's the woke and it's big pharma and all these things.
	And I tried to go in to present a different take on what's going on right now with Trump and Netanyahu.
	And of course, I was called anti-Semitic and all these other things, but I was merely asking questions, which brings me back to my approach and this idea of data-driven.
	And along the way, what I started doing was looking both past and present at that representation and saying to myself, okay.
	The Bolsheviks in Russia who constructed a genocide that may have killed as many as 60 million people, according to sources like Solzhenitsyn.
	Well, what percentage of their leadership was Jewish?
	Because if you just say it's the Jewish Bolsheviks, you get laughed out of a lot of, let's call it, moderate or public discourse.
	And so instead, just went back, and I connected with folks like yourself and the great Carl Rattle on Twitter.
	I want to give him a shout-out.
	Because we actually walked through the numbers, and he had them on everything.
	And I said to myself, wow, okay, if we can see that a group that made up, presently in the U.S. makes up 2% and globally makes up 0.2% of the public, and they're drastically overrepresented in something, just like they were the Bolsheviks, well, then I can say the disproportionately Jewish Bolsheviks, and there's nothing remotely hateful about that.
	That is just a true statement, because what does it mean to be disproportionate?
	It means that you have a larger...
	Proportion of something, then your numbers would indicate.
	And so I looked at that and I said, okay, what if I start doing this across all of these different aspects of, let's just call it loosely, modernity?
	And so what I found myself doing is going through everything from the NBA basketball team's ownership to the Hollywood producers that are putting out all of these movies, who runs MGM and Fox and Paramount and all that stuff.
	I did it with the music industry.
	I did it with the White House.
	Where it was something like 31% of the White House staff was Jewish.
	I did it with Joe Biden's cabinet, which was 66% Jewish.
	I looked at the US top 100 richest individuals.
	It was 30, if I'm not mistaken, 33% Jewish.
	I then started to look internationally.
	And I looked at a place like Russia that, you know, it's often claimed that Russia kicked out all the Jewish billionaire oligarchs, whatever you want to refer to them as, under Putin and similar.
	Governmental regimes that have been kind of anti-Jew.
	And I said, wait a second, you're telling me that Jews make up a fraction of the percent that they make of the already small percentage of Americans, and yet they make up 33 or 34 out of the 100 richest Russians.
	And so you start looking all over the world and you recognize, wait a second, how does this tiny collective of people not only make up this absurd amount of wealth?
	And this absurd amount of the CEOs of all of these massive companies and of the media and of the music industry, again, none of this is anti-Semitism.
	It's just truth.
	And the same thing applied, like I said, with the Biden administration.
	And then we can start looking at, you know, because it will often be claimed, oh, well, it might be his cabinet, but Joe Biden's Catholic, right?
	And then you look at it and it's like, oh, wait, all of his kids married Jews.
	And Kamala Harris married a Jew.
	And according to Candace Owens, Kamala Harris is a Jew.
	And Donald Trump's kids largely married Jews.
	And Bill Clinton's daughter, Chelsea Clinton, married a Jew, ironically, at a wedding that was attended by Jelaine Maxwell.
	Oh, man.
	Well, that's kind of weird.
	And the same thing just applies to George W. Bush's kids.
	And so it's like, how long has this been going on?
	And then when you start unpacking some of the similar patterns and going back, and again, just focusing on what you can demonstrate as irrefutable truths, you start to paint this very scary picture.
	And to this day, I think the reason that I'm still here on X, still allowed to participate in this public discourse, is the way that I'm approaching it is entirely off of that nerdy, professorial, non-hateful, non-antisemitic, data-driven approach that cannot merely be shrugged off or hand-waved.
	And what it ultimately constructs is a message and a set of infographics.
	That the masses can take out to their family, to their communities, and say, look, guys, I do think something is wrong.
	And the next thing you know, you kind of set off on this path where now you're presenting, you're basically, you're becoming the butterfly, right?
	Because the little teeny tiny wings that I have are maybe influencing a couple people who maybe they go out and they influence a couple more people in their community.
	Who maybe come into our cause.
	They start doing similar.
	And then the next thing you know, individuals like yourself and me and a lot of the others that are in these spaces with us, you know, they might be responsible for not just dozens or hundreds or thousands.
	It can be tens of thousands of people that are influenced to start looking at the world differently.
	And the thing that is so terrifying to the big machine about what we're doing is that once somebody recognizes that something is off with the numbers, let's just say.
	And they start saying, I think this guy might be on to something.
	You can never go back.
	It's like Keanu Reeves getting booted out of the Matrix and seeing it for what it is and saying, I get it now.
	And, you know, there's a whole history on what it means to actually get it because there's a religious aspect, there's a political aspect, a military aspect, maybe an aspect of genocide for what it's worth.
	But once you do start to see it...
	The word that always comes to my mind is the prism that you see the entire world shifts.
	And so that's kind of the goal that I suppose I have, the mission that I've set off on.
	And I do believe there's nothing special about my mind, my voice, the way that I construct or share ideas.
	It's merely a message that resonates with so many people because there's so much truth to it.
	And every single day, every week.
	Just yesterday, like we said, Trump and Netanyahu, all of the nonsense that came out of that the week prior, the anti-combat, anti-Semitism executive order from Trump.
	It's like every single day we wake up and there's a new thing slapping us in the face, affirming that which we now see as obvious, which is the Jewish question, and therefore giving us more, I don't want to call it animosity, but more energy, more fuel to continue on this mission, which is bringing an awakening to it so that we can avoid what I believe is a genocidal enslavement.
	That they seek for anybody and everybody that is outside of their little collective clique.
	Yeah, and I like to hear your background story because it's a lot like my process in coming to understand this.
	These logical deductions where you just...
	The funny thing is, and I think you would agree, you start with this mindset of...
	You really do kind of come into it skeptical of, this is kind of bullshit, sounds a little bit exaggerated, because you hear people say the meme every single time, right?
	It's a Jew behind every door, and you hear this all the time, and from the beginning, when you don't know anything about these topics, it does sound extremely hyperbolic, it sounds egregious, and that alone can make you really...
	Skeptical and not want to look into it, but that curiosity factor kind of drags you in.
	As you start to study these things and you look through, you know, historically what people have said about these issues, if you just look at the, as you say, the data that shows you exactly what is happening, you have to come to the logical conclusion eventually that this is absolutely a problem that we have.
	And, you know, that's why I don't really use the term Jewish question anymore.
	I really, I think Jewish problem is more adequate, right?
	Our ancestors questioned it for thousands of years.
	And I think there's no longer a question as to if we have a problem or not.
	There is certainly a problem.
	So I'm very curious, as you try to spread this message and your understanding of the circumstance that we're in, who, well, aside from Jews, because obviously I think they're going to give you the most backlash, but aside from them, who do you receive the most?
	Backlash from?
	What demographic is it?
	What age group is it?
	Is it men or women that are more adversarial to your takes?
	Is there any specific race of people that takes these things way harder when you try to push it?
	I'm very curious where you get the most backlash from.
	It's interesting because I feel as though...
	I kind of receive it from almost all sides in some sense.
	And I say that because at times I feel a little bit, for any of the Game of Thrones folks out there, I feel kind of like Jon Snow in what's referred to as the Battle of the Bastards, where at the end there's a shot where the camera pans up over top and looks down and you see heroic Jon Snow in the middle of just a sea of a thousand bodies, swords, shields, and all the suffering.
	And I say that not to play the victim in any sense, but rather to suggest that the message that I'm sharing, it does resonate with those that want to awaken people to the Jewish question.
	And from that group, so if we look at who is averse to that idea, we've got obviously Jews that don't like that I talk about these topics.
	We also have a ton of individuals that are in the MAGA community that want to believe that Trump is kind of their...
	Their hero, their chosen savior, if you will, that is a cult of personality.
	So when you push back on any of those folks and you suggest, hey, I think something is wrong here, obviously they take great offense to it, they jump on you, etc.
	But it's also, it's the liberals who have been so programmed with this notion of political correctness that the mere suggestion of the word Jews is horrifically unpalpable.
	And so...
	We've got those individuals, right?
	You've got those on the left.
	They don't like a lot of things that I say, although they do tend to agree with me on the Israeli violence side of things as it relates to Gaza.
	And what's exciting about this is, look, we can resonate with some of the MAGA folks that currently don't get the Jewish question, the Jewish problem, because they are in opposition to mass migration, LGBT propaganda, all these other things that if we look at their root catalyst, we notice a similar pattern.
	But we can also appeal.
	To those, you know, the individuals, it's that old adage, if you're not a liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart.
	If you're not a conservative when you're old, you don't have a mind.
	We can appeal to both of those audiences with different pieces, right?
	Immigration, LGBT on one side, human suffering of the Palestinians on the other for the liberals.
	But I also tend to get a lot of flames because the Jewish question, the Jewish problem, is something that is essentially a catalyst.
	For a lot of the woes and animosities of other groups of people.
	And so one of the very obvious ones is the very, very hardcore white nationalist folks that don't like the fact that I've taken, for example, a approach to this issue that is basically saying, I want anybody and everybody that is willing to stand up in opposition of this to stand next to me and to say with a multi-million person march.
	That could take place across all of the Western nations of the world.
	We see the problem.
	We know the problem.
	The outcome of this problem is everyone suffering with the exception of this teeny tiny clique of people.
	And so we all are unified against it.
	And you can use any metaphor you want.
	Sam Parker, who I look up to a lot.
	I think he's got some great takes.
	You know, he makes the comparison to the Lord of the Rings where you've got.
	The elves and the dwarves and all these other people, the hobbits all coming together to fight this common enemy.
	Let's fight in a peaceful, spiritual fashion.
	Oh, by the way, I have to say that because X otherwise will presume I'm being violent because they want us off here very badly.
	But you could use the Lord of the Rings metaphor or you could just say the Care Bears.
	They're all different colors and they're all just shooting their little positive energy, if I remember the cartoon correctly.
	But that's what I want, is that unified opposition.
	I do that because I look at this entire problem through the lens of what would be a pragmatic solution to it.
	I believe at the end of the day that anything that's pragmatic has to be built around what has, as just inherent in the word, the best chances for victory.
	And I think that, therefore, you've got to take into consideration certain numbers and certain realities of certain worlds and demographics in that opposition.
	So I just say that because...
	Back to that idea of Jon Snow, it does feel, ironically, a character killed by his own people.
	I do walk into rooms where I feel like I see a common problem.
	I might have a similar utopian endgame that I'm struggling for, striving for, curiously, just like Jon Snow.
	He let the wildlings in, for anybody that remembers that story arc.
	He lets them in because he sees that there's a bigger threat and says, hey, we need all these people against this common enemy.
	And then he ends up getting stabbed in the back.
	Or actually, I guess it was in the front.
	But he gets stabbed by his own people, the Night's Watch.
	And ironically, I feel like I get slings and arrows from some of those that would prefer if I had a more race-first approach to the problem.
	And I don't counter-signal any of those people.
	Again, I don't say this to say woe is me, but rather just I'm out there trying to present what I think is truth.
	Sometimes truths are uncomfortable about the JQ, the JP, whatever we want to call it.
	But they can also be uncomfortable about what would be a solution to that.
	What is a realistic, you know, next step that we can envision?
	And for me, the way that I personally see this having to take place is a unified opposition to this overarching, you know, small collective of people.
	And then once that is identified and addressed, again, that's non...
	Nonviolent, nonhateful, that's merely using the tools that are available to ensure that we can build a better, more equitable, for what it's worth, future, where there's a representation of the actual citizens of their nation at the tables.
	And then the people at those seats in that next state, or next step, whatever you want to call it, you know, they can then determine, once they've defeated Sauron and the orcs and all the terrible stuff, that is the evil, right?
	And defeat it again, spiritually speaking.
	Once they've taken out that problem and that collective, spiritually, then they can decide, all right, well, what does the Shire look like?
	And so I, again, rather than just merely fighting on behalf of the Shire, I fight on behalf of humanity, again, spiritually speaking.
	And so I do take, ironically, slings from the people I speak out against, all the way sometimes to the very people that I think have an endgame that would align with what I'm trying to construct.
	Yeah, it's a very interesting take.
	You know, we all have these different pathways and solutions.
	I think yours makes sense to a degree.
	We all have a different piece.
	You know, maybe I'm a little more stringent on a couple of the aspects than you are, but we don't need to go into crazy detail on that.
	So I'm very curious to get maybe more into this modern political atmosphere and what's going on in the modern age.
	You had mentioned this this cult of Trump.
	And this is a very big piece to what we deal with.
	You know, I've certainly dealt with it as well, where.
	You have people that...
	MAGA boomer crowd that is very pro-Trump.
	It's super, super involved.
	Their whole identity actually revolves around supporting Donald Trump.
	And then you have people who are supposedly awake to the issues that you and I talk about.
	And those...
	People somehow still have this infatuation with Trump or this belief that he's going to swoon in and save the day somehow, right?
	He's going to be the fascist dictator that saves everybody.
	So I'm very curious to kick us off.
	I already really know, but maybe it's more for the audience.
	What is your view on Donald Trump?
	And have you always held that view?
	Did you like or dislike him in the past?
	And has that kind of evolved or changed over time?
	And how do you view him now?
	That's a great question.
	And if I think back to the origin story of Trump, I remember discussing this with an individual that I think is actually very informed and in some ways helped to open my eyes to this JQ. And that individual was very positive on the 2016 Donald Trump candidacy.
	And I remember thinking, you know, this guy is a wild card.
	He's a little rabid.
	Is he going to present, let's call it the proper optics, which is ironic because that's something that...
	You know, we talk about it in other ways.
	Because I really like that idea of presenting information in a way that is going to be appealing and attractive.
	And that person said to me, look, the conservatives do not want somebody that's going to be the peaceful, intellectual, educated showman.
	They don't want another Mitt Romney.
	What they want is somebody that's going to, you know, metaphorically.
	Punch Hillary Clinton square in the face.
	Again, that is metaphorically.
	But he's going to punch at Hillary Clinton and punch up instead of allowing, ironically, what Mitt Romney actually did against Obama in his campaign.
	And if you remember Candy Crowley, when Romney had that debate with Obama about the Rose Garden and did Obama call it a terrorist attack?
	And Mitt Romney said, no, you didn't.
	And Candy Crowley interjected and said, no, Mitt Romney, you're wrong.
	He did.
	That was a lie.
	Candy Crowley was either knowingly or unknowingly lying, but either way, in the middle of the debate where Mitt Romney clearly had the energy and the momentum in the debate, he was completely deflated from that moment on.
	And then the New York Times, a couple days later, CNN, they all ran corrections and said, whoops, Candy Crowley was wrong.
	But my point was, in sharing that story, Donald Trump would not have allowed that.
	He would have said, that's incorrect.
	That's a lie.
	Kenny Crowley, you're lying.
	That's misinformation, fake news, whatever terminology Trump kind of popularized.
	And we saw that in his campaign against Hillary.
	And obviously it worked.
	And I was excited.
	I thought Trump might be an outsider.
	Maybe he would come in with, again, back to that idea of being pragmatic.
	He might look at the system, try to fix that which is broken.
	Maybe he's going to be the guy that for the first time in a long time is going to start to build barriers, some physically, like a wall, and some metaphorically, you know, perhaps setting up barriers on what can and can't be pushed out by the media.
	Maybe looking at the tech monopolies, all these different things that he discussed.
	And what did we end up seeing?
	Well, we saw him referring to himself as the father of the vaccine, right?
	And Operation Warp Speed and all of these other sorts of things.
	And so whether Trump was from the break a compromised piece of the machine or not, that's something that's up for debate.
	I don't really know.
	I do know that his family's ties to...
	Israel into Jewish power structures go back essentially forever.
	His father, Fred Trump, was acquaintances, if not friends, to some extent, with Netanyahu, right?
	So obviously, this is a family that's been connected for a long, long time.
	Perhaps that entire 2015-2016 campaign of the big outsider was just part of the theater that is the world, right?
	All the world's a stage.
	And I bought into it, frankly.
	But we see it today, and I've unfortunately completely soured.
	There was a piece of me that was thinking, hey, look, Trump has RFK. He's got Elon.
	He's got the public support and the cult of personality.
	He could come in.
	And there was this, I mean, it was a one in a million chance that I had in the back of my head.
	But I thought to myself, maybe he does have enough power with social media and X, with all of his financial connections to the business world.
	And with somebody like RFK, who obviously 50% of the country dislikes, the other half really thinks he's pretty great.
	And maybe they could come in and make monumental change that obviously would undermine the efforts and interests of the JQ, which I believe is to dumb everybody down, to fatten everybody up.
	The unfortunate piece is while there's talk of Trump cutting the Department of Education, for example, I no longer believe that that is an attempt.
	To get rid of, let's just call it just the executives that are sitting at the DOE and are building out their diversity programs and all this stuff that I once would have believed.
	Instead, I would presume if he does do away with the Department of Education, that the goal will be to, quote unquote, streamline, right?
	To reduce costs, build efficiencies.
	And how are they going to do that?
	My assumption would be they'll turn to Elon Musk.
	Who will turn to Google and they will say, look at this.
	Google can provide an educational course for every kid and it'll cost nothing.
	And that system will be even more of the propaganda, the programming, the brainwashing, and the dumbing down of everybody.
	And so where I once viewed Trump as the outsider who could have come in and used all of his charisma to derail the globalist agenda, which I think is loosely the JQ or the JP. I now, unfortunately, am pretty convinced.
	And look, maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I'm pretty convinced that he is just going to accelerate all of it.
	And that will be through education, through health, through the Doge program with Elon Musk.
	You know, Elon and his entire Twitter arc has basically been, I will give you everything, free speech, all of this liberty.
	And then we've seen him.
	Continuously fall short on that program over and over and over again to the point that, like I said earlier, where every day our opinions are reinforced.
	We saw the Groypers and Nick Fuentes' biggest supporters mass wiped from X. Now we've seen the mass wiping of, loosely call them white nationalists in Australia.
	We saw Joel Davis just get booted off of X. And it's like every single day we wake up and they're stripping away.
	The very freedom of speech that Elon Musk practiced or promised, and I believe that Donald Trump, with his executive order around ending anti-Semitism, we're going to see the same thing.
	And what's going to be wild is to see as the masses slowly awaken.
	We're trying to accelerate that.
	I always use this metaphor, right?
	The enslavement of humanity is a tidal wave.
	It is coming at us.
	We know what the root of that tidal wave is.
	We are the surfers that are out there paddling towards that wave.
	And if we can get enough speed, enough velocity, we can get ourselves over the crest of the wave before it crashes.
	If we don't, we fall into an absolute dystopian future state that brings us into a modern rendition of the Dark Ages.
	Except the difference won't be that all of history is kind of forgotten, as is somewhat the case with a lot of that history.
	Instead, all of the present will be provided in a way that if you don't believe the narrative, well, then you're presumed part of the problem.
	And at the end of the day, there's nothing more Orwellian than that very notion, because it is the subservience not only of the body.
	Like, it'd be one thing to be enslaved to a system, and that could be you're picking cotton all the way up to you're sitting in a cubicle for a Fortune 500 company that hates you.
	Both of those are just different renditions of enslavement, obviously one worse than the other, physically speaking.
	But the future state is the enslavement of your mind, where political correctness has dumbed everybody down.
	Brainwashed and propagandized everyone and set such stringent requirements around what you can and can't say that even speaking your mind just like...
	...forced to and required to bow down to an intellectual subservience to the liars and their lies.
	Yeah, and this is, first off, that was really very well said.
	And this is a tactic that, well, they used to call it a communist tactic, right?
	But we now know that that was, in essence, a Jewish framework, right?
	Communism.
	So it's a tactic that they've used for hundreds of years, and they create this little ground force of troops that are willing to actually advocate on behalf of their own slavery, right?
	We saw this with COVID, this pandemic, as they call it, where people are...
	Actually begging for more restrictions, begging for others to have more restrictions under the guise of safety.
	They're actually so scared because they've been manipulated into being that scared that they're actually begging for their own slavery.
	It's a very interesting circumstance that we're living under.
	So in your perception, exception, uh, when you see this, uh, Trump advocating for buying up Greenland and turning it into an American territory and, uh, talking about buying up all of these other potential territories, does this, uh, raise red flags for talking about buying up all of these other potential territories, does
	Because from my side, this looks a lot like, well, exactly what they claim to be against, which is globalization, right?
	Globalism.
	Does this raise a red flag in your eyes?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And the irony is...
	It's the opposite of MAGA. And that's why it's so wild watching as these Trump fans and supporters and advocates refuse to condemn and critique this stance, right?
	You've basically got a president who was elected on the promise of protecting his people, his citizenry, increasing their prosperity, removing the U.S. and their military involvement in foreign nations.
	And what has he done since?
	Since getting the election, he's said, we're now going to send over American dollars and people to Gaza to basically clear that out, to clean it up.
	I mean, what does that obviously mean?
	There's going to be pushback.
	What does that pushback result in?
	It's going to be military conflict.
	They'll then use that to, in my assertion anyway, to try and justify foreign intervention.
	But even if we ignore that entire piece of the puzzle and we focus on, like you're saying, I mean, there's claims that Trump wants to go in and take Canada, right?
	Make it another state.
	How is that going to benefit the average American?
	What is that going to do for their prosperity?
	Is it a ton of land?
	Sure.
	What are you going to do with that piece of land in general that is largely inhabited?
	I mean, what portion of that nation actually has, let's call it traditional?
	European values that would align with a lot of the voting bloc of Donald Trump.
	And the answer is not a whole lot, at least in the major metro areas, due to the mass migration policies that obviously were fueled by their latest political leadership.
	And so, you know, instead of the promise of Trump, which is basically let's build walls, literally and figuratively speaking, let's protect our people.
	Let's set up tariffs and other things on the trade table so that we can ensure that our companies are protected so that they can profit, hopefully so that they can share those profits with the middle class that is dying each and every day.
	And I say that literally and figuratively because both premature, what do you call it, SADs, right?
	Sudden adult death syndrome, as well as things like suicide.
	And just kind of lack of health, whether it be obesity or morbid obesity, right?
	These things are all skyrocketing.
	And instead of looking at the people, their prosperity, their jobs, and saying, how do we retract our military involvement?
	How do we bring back that foreign aid, which for a second, we all thought he was going to do.
	He said, let's get rid of all the USAID programs.
	And then the next day, except Ukraine and Israel, right?
	And now it is, hey, we need to send all these other additional dollars over to Israel for their military purposes and now apparently to rebuild Gaza.
	So it's almost like, well, what did we get out of the promise to rebuild America?
	We're going to stop investing in other nations in one regard so that we can funnel all of that money, triangulate all of it directly to Netanyahu in Israel, and to do so at the expense of obviously additional levels of inflation, furthering of the U.S. debt.
	Perspectively, the sending away and the deaths of American citizens who will be asked to do that cleanup and to disassemble bombs and all this other insanity.
	And all for what?
	Because if I look at it, the outcome of this, 5 to 10 years from now, 20 years from now, Trump said that America is going to take Gaza.
	I don't believe that.
	I believe that America is going to be used to clean up the mess that Israel constructed, largely using American tax dollars and weaponry.
	Oh, by the way.
	They will send Americans over there to suffer, to die, prospectively.
	One case, they come out, and let's just say they're able to remove all of the Palestinians.
	Yay!
	For Israel, right?
	Now Israel gets to live in and reconstruct this land.
	Trump promised endless places to live and jobs.
	But who are those jobs for?
	They're not going to be for Americans.
	So Israel has once again been given a credit card that they can use to further the enslavement of the American public.
	And back to this idea of political and religious Zionism or the JQ, the JP, whatever, you know, if I look at the ideologies that are rooted in their Jewish text, the Talmud, it is that all, you know, one day the Jews will have 2,800 slaves per Jew.
	Well, what do I call it if Israel is getting endless benefits and a spending spree and the physical military support of the United States Army?
	To go in and to fix all their problems and pay for all of their construction.
	And at the end of the day, to then be kicked back to America so that they can be further enslaved, so that the Israelis can continue to get free health care, free education, free food, free housing, paid for by the American public.
	I call that slavery.
	And it ironically is directly in line with the teachings of the Talmud.
	And so it goes back to this idea of global Zionism.
	What does that look like?
	And if we start to find ourselves reading through the pages, Of Moses Hess, of the first Zionist conference.
	Well, what we find out is that this has been a plan that's been in motion for 150 years, and that we are approaching this endgame, or at least some piece of the endgame, where not only is that constructed, and are we just basically cattle in the Western world for their benefit, but we also have to be cattle that don't notice the patterns of subversion and enslavement.
	That not only are taking all of our finances, taking our children so that they can potentially die for their military causes, but then at the end of the day are also having your liberties stripped away and taken away so that they can be gifted via, you know, the new condos, the food, all this other stuff, but also the spared feelings of the Jews who don't want to even have somebody point out that this system seems grossly unfair.
	And so it's a little bit of a roundabout way of addressing it.
	I don't know how anybody over the last 48 hours that is a Donald Trump fan can look at the conversation with Netanyahu and say this is a guy who's clearly putting America first because that is the furthest thing from the takeaway that any rational person would have after listening to him meet with Benjamin Netanyahu.
	Yeah, you know, and there's a really important piece here, too.
	uh, when you mentioned what they're, what they would like to do with America going into Gaza, uh, basically using us as a slave force to clear that area physically, right?
	And then kick us back home.
	And then they have their little happy land and we've done all of the hard labor for them.
	You know, that for some people might sound like a hyperbolic or, or like it's a really out of touch, but I want to point out that there's actually a historical precedent for They did this with Britain.
	They had the British people all excited to get their little Palestine mandate after World War I. What's really important here, I was looking at a chart that was actually almost insane to look at, how much territory globally the British had at this time, when World War I and World War II ended.
	The Jews have used them for all of their benefits.
	They got their Balfour Declaration.
	They got the State of Israel.
	They got all of the help from Winston Churchill in World War II. Since all of that happened, the amount of territory that they have control over, the British, has gone from a lot, like, you know, they had a lot of territory in Canada and all these different places, to almost nothing.
	They have, like, very little left.
	And this is kind of what's going to happen here, right?
	Is we're going to lose control and power over the things that we have.
	So what will happen is Trump will globalize, right?
	Get these places like Greenland and Canada as territories.
	And then once America collapses...
	And these are all territories of America.
	It now leaves an open door for Jews to essentially collect all of these territories as property of their own, right?
	I think that's a really good point that you brought up.
	You know, they have no interest in us actually helping them so that they can, you know, just think about World War II, right?
	We come...
	The supposed narrative of this Holocaust story, we come and save them from what's supposedly happening over there.
	do you see any Jews thanking America for saving them or thanking the American people for going to war on their behalf?
	I don't ever see anything like that.
	I've never seen a Jew say thank you or praise the American people for what they did to help them in World War II.
	On the contrary, I've seen a lot of them complain that we somehow didn't do enough and that we're just as fascist and we're just as problematic.
	So, you know...
	This is a very good point that you bring to the table.
	They have zero interest in helping us whatsoever.
	And it's very important that we have to do everything in our power to make sure that we're not going over there and fighting, again, yet another foreign war on behalf of these people, which is exactly what we did over in Iraq after 9-11 and so on and so forth, all of which I'm sure you thoroughly know.
	I don't know if you would like, Ian, Maybe for the last hour of the show, we can do a Q&A and take questions from the both of us.
	I don't know how you want to format that, though, if we would do that live.
	Yeah, I'd welcome it.
	It might give for...
	Those that are listening via other mechanisms, kind of a flavor of a little bit what we do on X and in these spaces.
	I want to do a shout out for the team that has been working on what's loosely called JQ Radio on X. They have been essentially putting together a 24-7.
	Just like the one that we're in right here.
	It's a live audio feed.
	And they have all kinds of individuals that basically host different segments.
	No different than a radio program if you turn on your car and you go back pre-digital music.
	And I just say that because in that space they've got lots of different speakers that come in, run different programs, talk about different things.
	But they usually keep it conversational.
	And so just like with the Stu Peters Network where they...
	I think for Jake Shields and then also David Duke, you know, Stu ran a little bit of an interview and a conversation and then also plugged in the audience.
	And I think it's just a really neat way to allow other individuals to get their voices out, ask questions if they have them, contribute on these topics.
	Because at the end of the day, the best thing that we can do is not just share.
	The knowledge and try to push it out there.
	I mean, that's obviously extremely important, but also helping other individuals with how they formulate those ideas, giving them the conviction to kind of step forward and to share them with the world.
	And I mentioned JQ Radio just because they're doing that stuff 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
	And for anybody, anywhere, whether you're on Twitter or not at the moment.
	If you're not, I think it's a wonderful place to go.
	And if you're open to these discussions, a resource that you can all get access to.
	And so I figured I'd throw that out there.
	And this is very much what happens in those spaces.
	It's often interviews followed by kind of audience-based Q&As.
	And so I'd welcome that.
	If it would make sense to you, Zach, or if not, would be happy to keep it, you know, conversational between the two of us, whatever you'd prefer.
	Yeah, I'll actually also just quickly mention, in regards to JQ Radio, I do run a weekly segment on JQ Radio on Mondays at 7pm Eastern.
	I do National Socialist Mondays, where I help go into the...
	Better, more in-depth details as to what National Socialism is, as we all know in the modern age.
	Very few people have a true understanding of National Socialism.
	Most people either equate it with communism or...
	I don't know what they think, to be honest.
	Most people have a very slim understanding that has zero political takes at all.
	It's just like these weird tropes about hate and genocide and stuff.
	That's not political ideology.
	I don't know.
	It's up to you if you feel comfortable having people come in to ask questions.
	I guess...
	We just want to, I would want it for the sake of the show because we do have a show audience as well.
	I would want to keep it specifically Q&A where it can stimulate questions or stimulate conversation rather.
	Sorry, the questions can stimulate conversation.
	So I'm comfortable to bring people up and then have them ask questions to either you or myself and we can just kind of go from there.
	I just have to close my show at 5.55ish but then we can continue with the Yeah, I love that idea.
	And look, the interesting piece about this, right, I think is the evolution of this discourse in general.
	And what's wild, Zach, is to think that just, let's call it 10 years ago, the discussion that we're having, the topic that we're covering, this was so fringe.
	You know, you had folks like Ken O'Keefe, for example, that were basically pushed out of any and all reasonably large discourse, right?
	If they tried to get on national television, it was just laughed out of the room.
	And to think that we've gone from that point to today, where we're able on this platform, all the critique that I, of course, give to Elon Musk aside, at least we're here right now for whatever time we're able to.
	And to have these conversations with an ever-growing audience, and I do sincerely believe that this is going to continue to grow and grow and grow to a point that there will be a large enough voice that will oppose this, that then what's going to be very interesting about this is the meeting of the moderate, thoughtful, quote-unquote normies, I don't say that with any malice, but as those people in the middle.
	That try to be thoughtful.
	They try to get the correct information.
	Maybe right now they go, you know, on one side, perhaps they go to Alex Jones because they think he's outside of the norm.
	On the other side, you know, maybe they go the opposite direction.
	They go to the Weinsteins, they go to Curtis Yard, and they go to whoever.
	All of those individuals that are trying to seek out the truth are eventually going to hear our cries and our pleas for them to pay attention to this.
	And what's going to happen is our voice will get large enough that the machine has to completely shut us down, that proverbial meme, right?
	When they do, then the masses that have been a little bit curious are going to look over and say, well, that's kind of suspect that this group of people have been talking about this thing and saying this group of individuals have way too much power.
	Well, all of a sudden, they're not allowed to ask those questions anymore.
	They've been mass purged from the discourse.
	Maybe there's something to that.
	And so as we hit that tipping point, I believe that we win because whatever comes from that point forward, perhaps they just imprison all of us.
	And at the end of the day, our legacy is that we spoke out.
	If nothing else, we spoke out.
	But perhaps if we speak out enough quickly, if we gain enough velocity, perhaps we'll be able to avoid altogether that tidal wave that we talked about in the past.
	And so I just bring that up because it is wild to me that we're able to have this conversation, that you were able to get linked with Stu Peters, who obviously is sharing these types of ideas with a much larger audience than I think anybody would have thought possible as little as two or three years ago.
	And so I want to share that just with everybody that's listening out there, wherever you are in the ether, that this is not a lost cause.
	This group of people have not won.
	If they had, they wouldn't be terrified of us sharing these truths.
	And if they weren't terrified of us sharing them, they wouldn't be trying to pass this legislation and to step on our basic liberties to have these conversations.
	And so, you know, the fight is still there to be had, spiritually speaking.
	We will win, and to everybody that's listening, whether you're here on X, whether you're anywhere else on Zach's audience, I just want to thank everybody for being part of this collective movement.
	And with that, we'd be happy to open it to questions and additions and all those good things, Zach.
	Okay, yeah, that works.
	And actually, I just wanted to add on to something you said as well really quick.
	With your mention of how much this has spread, right?
	I mean, I started my show two years ago, and I didn't see a lot of people talking about Jews at that time.
	It was almost...
	Completely foreign to even come across somebody discussing these topics.
	Now, I can't scroll Twitter without seeing it.
	It's all that's being discussed.
	People talking about Israel, people talking about what's going on in our Congress, in the White House, how much power these people have, how much they've infiltrated certain sectors of society.
	And, you know, I want to point to...
	A really important piece because a lot of people are very afraid to touch some of these topics.
	As I'm sure you know, Ian, you probably have hundreds of people that come in a Twitter space for the first time, very, you know, they have a shaky voice and they're very nervous because they feel like just to discuss these things is somehow taboo and shouldn't be done, right?
	Because they can sense that social pressure that's concurrent around them.
	And I want to point to this very important experiment that was done in the United States in the 50s by a Jew.
	His name was Solomon Ash, and he did these, what they're called, Ash Line Experiments.
	And what he basically would do was take a group of lines, A, B, and C, and he would hire, like, nine paid actors to all say that line A is the longest.
	Even though it might be that B is longer, like physically you could look at it and tell that B is longer.
	And then they would hire one innocent bystander, a random person on the street, and they would say, can you tell us which line is the longest?
	And they would show them the data of the nine paid actors who all agreed that A is the longest, even though it's very clear that B is longer.
	And almost...
	Something like 90% of people would just agree and say that A is longer, even though they could clearly see that B is longer, because everybody else was doing it, and they don't want to feel stupid or left out, or like somehow they're the only incorrect person.
	They were afraid of that being a social outcast, being somebody that's not a part of the collective.
	When you think of it kind of in the reverse, how the Jews have come to actually take that experiment and use it for themselves, think about how they created this Nazi narrative, right?
	Anybody who says anything negative about modern society is instantly a Nazi, right?
	And then they frameworked and shaped what that means.
	What does it mean to be a Nazi?
	And they've obviously, again, demeaned...
	What those people did, they've completely torn their image down.
	And now, because of the social pressure that's around somebody, 90% of people just instantly think that Nazi is bad, right?
	So, one person, if they hear the word Nazi, or they hear Hitler, or they hear whatever, they don't actually think themselves that Hitler is a bad guy, or National Socialism was a terrible thing.
	But rather, they see that the 90%, just like the 90% chose that A was longer when it wasn't, they see the 90% say that that's the case, so they naturally conform with the social pressures and say the same thing.
	So as this snowball effect...
	Tumbles further and further and we reach this kind of avalanche of truth where there are so many people talking about these things.
	We're going to get to a point where others, they might not even think we are right, but they will follow suit and agree with what we're saying.
	Because of the social pressure that's going in that direction.
	So that's why it's extremely key that if you believe you're truly right in the things that you're talking about, that we consistently say these things non-stop, right?
	Some of these spaces can honestly be very repetitive where we're constantly rehashing the same facts.
	I'm sure Ian and myself both, the amount of times we have had to restate some kind of fact that we have learned because we have a new group of people around us or we're around a new audience.
	It's repetitive.
	It certainly can be tedious.
	Each person hears it and it starts to trickle more and more in that direction.
	You're going to see that natural mass conformity that, again, these Jews have studied very harshly and they know very well.
	So I just want to point out that's a very important piece.
	And with that, we can go to some questions here.
	And real quick, Zach, on that.
	So just to give a little bit of additional color, and you're exactly correct.
	I think in many ways...
	That their expectation, and I think they've been largely correct on this, I think the powers that be, part of the benefit to them of things like Facebook, which if we look into, we go back to the origin story of it with LifeLog and the U.S. government basically saying we want to set up a digital database on everybody.
	Right?
	And that program being shut down the same day that thefacebook.com went live.
	What a weird coincidence that is.
	But I bring it up because I think they have thought through that social media can be the ultimate propaganda tool, not only to push out social narratives, and it is my belief that in a not-so-distant future, if not already today, that we live in a social media atmosphere where AI bots are out there bombarding.
	BS stories and fake news with all kinds of accolades and applauds that give the masses this false sense of social normalization of certain ideas and constructs, and that the powers that be believe they would be able to use that platform not only to manipulate and brainwash individuals, but also to essentially program them to be so dependent on social affirmation.
	So interested in likes and followers and all of this other nonsense that they'd be willing to forego their history, their heritage, maybe even their passions and pursuits.
	And as crazy as that might sound, what you find out is if you start looking into the psychology of a lot of people that aspire to be influencers, you start looking at the younger audience, what you find is that younger kids are so aspirationally focused on becoming an influencer.
	Right?
	They actually did a study.
	It used to be in a day and age, people wanted to grow up to be a firefighter, a policeman, an astronaut, a lawyer.
	Now they want to be Kim Kardashian.
	Right?
	And the reason I bring that up is because those individuals that aspire to be an influencer, what does that mean?
	It means they have to be socially acceptable.
	And so I believe that social media is used on both of those different, and many others, frankly, fashions, where they are pushing out false narratives, they are propagandizing the perceived.
	Uh, popularity of those ideas through all kinds of artificial means.
	And then simultaneously you're taking individuals and psychological studies have shown not only are kids not doing the things that they are passionate about.
	So maybe somebody wants to go be a boy scout and learn how to, to camp and all these other things, but instead.
	They're pursuing something that's perceived as more socially popular because they are so desperately seeking the affirmation of their peers.
	And so it's really terrifying because what that means is that that future generation is willing to conform at essentially any and all costs with whatever that narrative is to prospectively be accepted by the rest of their peers.
	And so it's really dangerous.
	It's really terrifying.
	The good news is that the younger generation simultaneously is far less concerned with political correctness.
	They are far more outspoken.
	They are far more brash.
	And that's why you've got individuals like Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL suggesting that they have a generational problem because these younger individuals are saying, I don't care what you call me.
	I'm just going to say it like it is.
	That's the whole popularity of this idea of based.
	And so I think that we're going to see those two things with the younger generation at conflict the same way that we see the boomers.
	That obviously don't want to hear the things that we are sharing because their generation was so heavily programmed by the television set.
	That was really the mechanism that was used on them to normalize these views that whether or not they were popular, the boomers have internalized because they don't want to be perceived as hateful and all these other things.
	So I think to your point, we have to be in these spaces.
	We have to normalize this.
	We have to celebrate those individuals, however outlandish some of their language may be.
	That are willing to be on the scene trying to create viral content that are out there doing whatever mechanisms they can to give the perception that it is not only reasonable to challenge these things, but that it is sexy.
	It is cool to do it because it is countercultural.
	The same way that the hippies were perceived as cool because they went outside of the norms of their society.
	We need the social norms of tomorrow to be rooted in a cool, countercultural rejection of...
	The machine, the oppressors, for the benefit of everybody at large, and that is a rejection at the end of the day of the JQ. Yeah, very well said, Ian.
	I'm on PC, and I know that in the past, it can be kind of hard to see that hands are up, so I don't know if you want to kind of...
	Whenever you see somebody with a hand up, ask them to go ahead.
	I mean, I do see hands now, but I don't know how well it functions, so I don't want to be the one to do it.
	I'll let you kind of go to people.
	They can ask questions to either one of us, and then we'll continue forward.
	Absolutely.
	And just for everybody listening, I do see some requests.
	I'll certainly bring up folks.
	I'll probably do...
	A little bit more vetting than I would normally do in a space that I was hosting.
	I do that out of respect for Zach and his program and the Stu Peters Network.
	And so I would just ask if we could just kind of have an additional degree of decorum for this discourse, whether it's on the language front or the ideas, and maybe for the...
	You know, the realities of the networks that he's pushing us out to, let's just be respectful of that.
	I do see, and I think it'll be a great first person to bring into the conversation, Mr. Manko Smash, who is an individual just in terms of to show how this is growing.
	This is somebody that I got connected to through Khaleesi and Suleiman.
	I want to give them a shout out.
	They're obviously social influencers.
	I know certain people have certain discomfort with some of their takes, but...
	They have been some of the largest voices, aside from Stu Peters, out there talking about the challenges and the ills and the unshacklement of Zionism on the American and Western people.
	And I met Manko Smash through that, and I say it just because...
	Our conversations on these subjects, it's extremely important that we stay in these tight groups, like you were saying, Zach, and educate and affirm anyone that's willing to come into our rooms.
	I think it's also really important that where we can, we take those truths out to those other spaces, whether it's in the digital world or the physical world, into new audiences and try and get them any way we can.
	And so I just bring that up because Manco is a great example of that, somebody I met through Suleiman's channels.
	That otherwise might not have ventured into some of these spaces prior.
	And so with that, Manco, I'd love to bring you into the dialogue and maybe tee you up as somebody that has been politically active for a long, long time and has started to emphasize this aspect of it more recently in the modern days.
	Yeah, thank you, Ian.
	So I don't have a lot to add right now, but I could just really quickly go over what you said with Trump.
	Definitely Trump has done some very disappointing things in this last 24 hours.
	I have hope, like I expressed yesterday, that it's all going to fizzle out because many things with Trump do.
	He tends to talk very, very, very big, and then he doesn't actually follow through on a lot of things.
	I really like what he's doing with the government and cutting it and all that kind of stuff.
	And I do think that on the whole...
	He is going to be contributing to a decline in power of the liberal elites, which of course includes, you know, 80% of what the Jews voted for Kamala.
	And the liberal elite, the intellectual foundation of the liberal elite is primarily comprised of these Jews.
	So I do think it's going to have an overall net negative effect on them.
	But right now, he is kissing up extremely hard.
	I don't know if this is because it's 4D Jess where he thinks he's going to divide them between the ones that are more hardcore liberal versus the Zionists or something like that.
	But it is disappointing to see.
	I do think it will get better over time.
	But that's no excuse that we should be pushing back on him very severely when he behaves like this.
	It's very disgraceful.
	And like you said, you cannot frame anything he did in the Netanyahu visit in terms of America first.
	It's all Israel first, and there's no way to even try to justify it as America first.
	So it's a betrayal of the people who voted for him.
	So that's all for now.
	Yeah, no, very well stated.
	And Zach, not sure if you want to add, contribute, push back, or provide your thoughts on some of the things that Manko just suggested there.
	No, I don't have anything specific to add on that piece, no.
	All right, cool.
	But no, very well said, Mankos.
	And like I said, what I love to hear about your takes is always the fact that I'm approaching this with a little bit nefarious of a...
	I shouldn't say nefarious in a bad sense, but I believe the people in control have this nefarious endgame that they're seeking out.
	I know that you're always looking at it purely through this, and not purely, but largely through this political lens of what is...
	How do the machinations of kind of the DC machine work?
	And so I always love to get your thoughts on that.
	And look, I mean, Trump has certainly, he's talked a big game.
	He's often not delivered.
	And we can see that from the wall to many of his other promises.
	I mean, maybe the most notable would be his suggestion he wouldn't take any action to further military involvement.
	And obviously what we're seeing in Gaza would kind of walk back on that.
	But, you know, I hope I'm wrong.
	And ironically, I had the exact same discourse, not just around the JQ and the JP as we've seen Trump's more recent developments, but going all the way back to the COVID kind of scandal, whatever you want to label it.
	I hoped and I prayed that I was wrong then.
	I hope I pray I'm wrong now.
	It seems like in retrospect, I was probably right on COVID. I hope I'm wrong on Trump.
	But either way, he's certainly going to keep a skeptical eye on it.
	And Manko, really appreciate those comments.
	Let's go to Coyote, another individual.
	And Coyote, I think, would be neat about this.
	You know, just like Mankos, I met you through a very different space, talking a little bit more moderately.
	And if I'm not mistaken, you're one of the larger, if not one of the largest voices in the MAGA. So I'd love if you could kind of give a little bit of your background, some of your colors, your questions, your comments, etc., just to showcase how this really is spreading like wildfire across social media in terms of the awareness to this challenge.
	Yeah, I appreciate you having me, Ian.
	Great to meet you, Zach.
	Yeah, I guess a little on my background.
	I mean, I'm a Texas guy.
	I went out there.
	I've done the door knocking for, you know, Trump.
	I went to Nevada and whatnot.
	And I push it.
	And I still stand by my president, you know, as far as that goes.
	But, you know, needless to say, you know, when you get somebody hired, you know, then they work for you or whatever.
	That means that, you know.
	Yes, I'm still going to keep an eye.
	And I'm going to always question everything.
	I support Ian very much so because he comes in and supports me because it's very hard.
	And you gentlemen are doing it very well right here.
	But, you know, a lot of the verbiage and stuff, when you go to look into these kind of things, it gets real sensitive because, as we know, it's a sensitive subject and whatnot.
	So I do applaud you, you know, gentlemen, for being able to have an intellectual conversation.
	But, yeah, you know.
	I push it hard.
	It's the American first, right?
	You know, and I did a poll recently on this.
	Like, it's like I don't see some of the things that we're getting into right now as, you know, American firsty, I guess you say.
	And, you know, does that make me an anti-Trumper?
	No, absolutely not.
	I mean, that's the whole reason being that you get somebody in office is because you want them to do what you, you know, what...
	You know, what is best for America and, you know, what further suits you, I guess you say.
	So, you know, there's nothing wrong and it's hard to go against it because I believe, you know, the social media aspect of it, I think me and Ian pretty much nailed it.
	It's like, you know, you've got to get on board in everything that everybody does.
	You know, like, oh, we got to go.
	Like, you don't have to be 100%.
	In agreeance with every single decision that the man's made.
	He's done some good things, a little, you know, a little trigger happy on some of these EOs that have been signed or whatnot.
	A lot of them are needed, though.
	You know, but we're in a pivotal point in history to where it's like, you know, there's something going on.
	I mean, I can see some of the curious faces.
	Like, up in the crowd right now.
	And it's all too familiar because, you know, Ian, you've been speaking on this a long time, man, and I really, really gotta tell you, I appreciate when you come in and try to make it to where...
	It's like baby steps almost for some of the people to be able to grasp some of these concepts and whatnot.
	To find out that there's furthermore than Genesis 12-3 and whatnot.
	There's always another angle or another verse that can counter or contradict something.
	I guess that's what I just wanted to come up with and show the support.
	I know what you guys are doing, man.
	I know that it's hard.
	And I know that, you know, it's going to be a rocky road, I guess you'd say.
	But it needs to happen.
	That's the whole thing about it.
	Like, the big part about it is, like, we can't repeat.
	You have to know your history.
	You have to know, you know, have knowledge of the things that happened.
	And we're in this digital air of information.
	I think it freaks people out.
	A lot of the times, by the amount of, you know, information that they have at their fingertips, you know, the question, the ballpoint pen, all these little things that are out there, you know, you start questioning, like, you know, when I went to school, why did I have to read this certain book?
	And this is the kind of, you know, audience right here, and this is the kind of speaker panel that I believe that can kind of bring some light to some of the things out there.
	Because, you know, if you got questions, people, like...
	There's a lot to question.
	There is things to question out there.
	Our lives, man.
	In a sense, you could say we've been programmed in a lot of the ways.
	I'm not here to push any kind of agenda or anything like that.
	I'm just here to say, hey, we need to be able to have a conversation.
	We need to have this conversation.
	There needs to be platforms and stages to where you can do so.
	Walk away feeling like in shame, I guess you'd say, or being called an anti-Semite or something like that, because if you look at that, that's just another, you know, it's another kind of propaganda that was put out in order to deter you from speaking, from just asking questions.
	It drives me crazy.
	Why can't I ask a question without being labeled an anti-Semite or a fucking, like, I just, and pardon my French on that, but it drives me crazy.
	I don't understand it.
	It's only me asking a simple question.
	Do I get, like, label back?
	Because that doesn't deter me.
	People like me, if you tell me, don't look over there around the corner, I want to go see what's around the corner.
	So, you know, a part of that is, you know, it is what it is.
	But again, Ian, Zach, great to meet you, man.
	And Ian, thank you for having me.
	Hey, man, and such a pleasure.
	Like I said, folks, this is...
	A commentator, Coyote, who has been running a lot of these spaces.
	He was out there for Trump as part of the campaign, on the trail, doing everything he could to get this guy in power and elected.
	And right now, the MAGA folks...
	It stuns me that there aren't more of them that are starting to ask these questions because a lot of them would label themselves truth seekers and all these other things.
	And so to know that we are increasing our ranks, our numbers every day and starting to get through to individuals that otherwise might be completely, they might have blind spots.
	And that's not a critique and a criticism because everything about our culture, our educational system, the media, politicians, all of it.
	Designed to make sure that we don't recognize these obvious truths.
	And so, you know, for us to get another voice that's out there sharing these things in spaces that are, say, more MAGA-specific, that's what we need.
	We need advocates and ambassadors for us in all these different areas.
	And it's my belief, I'm not knocking anyone else's approach, but it's my belief we need those ambassadors in all shapes, sizes, colors, creeds, etc.
	And so it's very, it's ironic.
	We'll often be labeled a hateful bigot.
	For trying to address this issue.
	And it's like, look, I'm the one that's calling for anybody and everybody.
	Even if you have Jewish ancestry, which is the case with, you know, for example, Simon Dixon, all the way to Mads Paulvig, who is actually a politician that does a bunch of spaces with us, who happens to be married to an individual that's from this group of people.
	But he doesn't, that is not the priority.
	It doesn't matter, right?
	He's just looking at the truth.
	And so he's out there trying.
	Every single day through his political activism and his efforts online to bring attention to this, and that's what I'm championing, I'm calling for, and I advocate for everybody to do that in a peaceful rendition, non-hateful, non-violent, all of those kind of things.
	We just need, it was once called by Joel Davis, it was an advertising campaign, and in many ways, that's what I want.
	I want a PR campaign going out to the world and bringing attention to this, because if every single person in the Western world just asks themselves these five questions.
	And seriously thought about them, right?
	Is this overrepresentation across A, B, C, D, E? Those five bullets, are those weird?
	If everyone just thought about it for more than the knee-jerk reaction to look at it on a piece of paper and because it says the word Zionist or Jew to immediately say, nope, abandon ship, abort mission.
	If they just thought about them, we could give them five data points.
	They'd be like, huh, that is really weird.
	And then you could give them five more and five more and five more.
	Those little breadcrumbs would lead everybody to this peaceful, spiritual awakening and the rejection of this insanity that we're living under.
	And so I really, you know, great comments there, Coyote.
	With that being said, let's go, speaking of all different shapes, sizes, language, voices, let's go to Alexander, and then we will go to Cassidy, who I'm not as familiar with, but I want to thank him for being in here.
	So, Alexander, what do you got for us?
	Hey guys, it's a pleasure speaking to you all.
	I just wanted to quickly push back on what Menko Smash, if I'm saying it correctly, said.
	It's true that Donald Trump had a lot to say and made a lot of promises.
	We all know he likes to talk and he definitely knows how to sell.
	But as a wise man was said, don't judge a man by his words, judge him by his actions.
	And when it comes to Israel, Trump's actions have been very negative.
	I'll agree with that.
	There are a lot of questions circulating and people are becoming more skeptical of this administration by the day.
	So, I understand why many have stopped believing in it.
	But Ian Carroll just posted a video where he pointed out a few things.
	For example, Trump recently reposted a video portraying Netanyahu as a major reason for America's wars.
	And there was another video, a clip of Jeffrey Sachs calling Netanyahu a bitch.
	Excuse me for my French, by the way.
	And just yesterday, during that press conference, Trump said that the United States will be in control of Gaza.
	If you look at Benjamin Netanyahu's reaction, many people noticed he seemed to be caught off guard.
	Now there's a speculation again about this whole 5-D chess argument, narrative.
	So I was curious, what are your guys' thoughts on this?
	Yeah, I guess I'll go first, and then Ian, I don't know if you want to chime in after I do.
	So, the thing is, I think we have to understand that the way that our political system works between the right and left-wing parties, as they call them, which are, again, two wings of the same bird, what we have to understand is these people will never allow somebody to come inside of this system and change the system itself.
	So, we have to understand how much power Jews have over even an individual like Trump to an extent where, I mean...
	The guy pulling out a chair for another world leader.
	He would never do that for Kim Jong-un when he met him or Xi Jinping.
	No man does that for another man.
	I've never seen a guy do that for another guy, let alone a world leader do it for another one.
	It goes to show how much these people have to grovel to them in order to keep their power maintained.
	As much as there even is, say, a small chance that Trump is somehow, in his mind, he really does care about the American people and he wants to do what's best and he doesn't want to kiss Israel's ass, but he knows that given his circumstance, he has to do such.
	So even with that in mind, we still have to realize that...
	That leaves us with the same barricade as to if he was a subversive and he was truly against us with malicious intent.
	So whether his intentions are good or bad for us or against us, the problem is we are stuck in the same exact kind of quandary here, is that he's beholden.
	To Israel in some way, shape, or form, right?
	Or Jewish power, Jewish finance in some way.
	And with that, they're not going to allow him the ability to get a serious thing going for us, right?
	So what they'll do is, and you see this...
	This is like a PR stunt kind of a thing that they'll do, right?
	So, like, he releases the January 6th prisoners, and then that gets him some really good brownie points, and it looks really good.
	And then he goes and he does 10 bad things, but people, like, they'll focus on that positive one, right?
	They put a lot of press attention on the positive one, and they really, you know, kind of uplift that.
	It's the same deal with Elon Musk, right?
	Elon Musk will say some really nice things and say some really good things that seem like they're really, you know, in the right path.
	And then you'll see him doing all of these things about, you know, anti-Semitism and Israel.
	So no matter what we look at with these people that are a part of the system, they're beholden to it because these Jews won't allow anybody to get to a large level of power in the federal government.
	This isn't state level.
	So say you're in your little local rural county.
	It's not that insidious that somebody that is your local mayor is also somehow a subversive person.
	But when it comes to the federal level, they're not going to let anybody through there that isn't somehow compromised, whether that's morally compromised, legally compromised, whatever the case may be, they're going to be compromised in some way, shape, or form so that they aren't going to either A, they don't want to help people, or B, they're not going to be able to help people.
	Ian, I don't know if you want to add anything on to that.
	Yeah, very interesting.
	I was talking to my little brother, and he's 16 years old.
	And I've been telling him about, well, the American government is infiltrated by Israel and all these kinds of things.
	And, well, he asked me, well, okay, and what's the solution?
	And I thought about it, and he said immediately...
	He said, and I'm not advocating for this, by the way, I know that we are on television, so I'll say that.
	But he said, we need to start a revolution.
	We need to, you know, something around his lines.
	I cannot remember exactly what he said, but it's something about the revolution, and he was really ambitious about it.
	But I know that you guys are extremely knowledgeable on political topics and probably also history.
	If you look at history, I know that Israel is very much infiltrated and this is not a fight you win overnight.
	We will probably fight this all our whole lives.
	But what would you guys say are solutions to this?
	Yeah, I mean, so revolution doesn't always have to insinuate some kind of violent conflict, which is what is commonly kind of, you know, put across, which is why people feel like they have to walk on eggshells over terms like this.
	You know, you can have an art revolution, you know, there's cultural revolutions.
	So revolution isn't a...
	We need a political revolution.
	That is an absolute fact.
	The circumstance that we're in, the politics that we have today, they're terrible and we need something better.
	Our founding fathers in the United States of America knew exactly that.
	They looked at the state of the country.
	They looked at the crown that was just completely oppressing them with taxes and taking advantage of them.
	And they said, look, we need a revolution.
	If you say that you want to have a revolution and you want a better political state form and that's what you want to institute, and the government is the one that cracks down on you and does not allow you to implement those things, which would be the political revolution, when it turns into a conflict, the actual warfare itself isn't the revolution.
	The revolution is the political change.
	So if the government doesn't allow a political change and that kind of a revolution, it's them that's causing the violence, not the people themselves.
	The people themselves have to do so in self-defense.
	So I just want to point that out.
	A lot of people get a little bit weary and nervous when they use the term revolution because it...
	For some reason, it has a connotation of a call to violence, right?
	But that's really not the case, right?
	Think about, again, an art or a cultural revolution.
	It's the same with a political revolution.
	To basically move better people into a system of power than the corrupt traders that exist in the current state, that's a political revolution and that doesn't have to be violent at all whatsoever unless those people are to make it as such.
	So, I just want to point that out.
	I'll keep it really short.
	I know other people are here that want to talk.
	But yeah, well, he was pointing at a very aggressive and violent revolution, but I was trying to be careful with my words.
	But yeah, interesting.
	Very interesting.
	But yeah, well, if I look at the culture and my generation, I believe Ayan just talked about it.
	Man.
	We have some fire in us and of course there are a lot of young people that do nothing but sit in front of their TV watching some Netflix.
	But there are also a lot of, well, what I've noticed in my own neighborhood, a lot of white kids, a lot of white kids, white nationalists.
	And it's pretty interesting how that changed because I know from my father, my father spoke to me yesterday and he said that Why are you doing this?
	Why are you spreading this controversial information?
	Don't you think that it's scary?
	Or don't you think that it's...
	Well, aren't you terrified?
	And don't you think that's dangerous, right?
	And I thought, well, yeah, I think that it's dangerous.
	It's probably very dangerous.
	And Alexander, if I could pause you there and I just say it because...
	Let's think about this rationally.
	What you're discussing is to intellectually point out patterns of control and to suggest that it might be nefarious in nature.
	And if doing that is dangerous, then what does it say about the people in control?
	It tells us de facto that not only do they want truths hidden, but that they'd also be willing to do extreme things to ensure that those truths don't come to surface.
	And so what does that tell us about those truths that they don't want people uncovering?
	And the answer is obviously that they're extremely concerned about what would come from that.
	And so, you know, and I share your concerns.
	We're seeing people kicked off this platform every single day, which is why we have to speak very specifically, deliberately with our words.
	We have to discuss these issues with extreme, not caution, but sensitivity.
	But the fact that the people that we're speaking out against would be willing to go to such awful ends.
	To try and protect these truths from the world at large, all that should do is to fuel the fire inside us that we are on the right path, that we are doing that which is righteous.
	And you could look at religious examples, you could look at cinematic examples, you know, from folklore, from mythology, all across the gamut.
	The world was made better places in all of those examples, whether it's Jesus Christ all the way up to Luke Skywalker, by people saying, I'm willing to take the slings and arrows of those that are awful to try and bring about a better tomorrow.
	And so whoever it is that's our foe, whatever form they take, I believe it is our righteous calling to have that righteous indignation that we will not put up with this one moment longer.
	Doesn't mean that we have to hate anybody.
	I mean, now we have to attack anybody, but we have to be willing to speak our truths from our chests, as the kids would say, and to do it bravely, courageously, and independent of the social stigma that comes from it.
	Because at the end of the day, the words of those that we know are wrong should just deflect off of us as if they are not even stones, but as if they are pebbles off of the armor that is our seeking after truth, nobility, and some form of justice.
	Really great questions that you asked there.
	And with that being said, let's go down to Tanatris, who has their hand up so politely.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	So the Jewish machine is always invests a lot into creating social trends and in order to build the molds that people who actually have certain sentiments against the system, well, Have already the designated space for them.
	So we can see that in the latest example of Rage Against the Machine.
	I don't know how many people are aware of it, but apparently they had this poster, Nazi lifestyle matter, on Rage Against the Machines.
	And it's very happily shared by a lot of so-called liberal people.
	Like, for instance, there's this woman...
	Liberal Lisa in Oklahoma, who looks awfully like she is Jewish, and she is obviously applauding this kind of message, right?
	So it would be otherwise unthinkable to state that someone's lives don't matter just because of their race or just because of their political views.
	Like in this case, it's both, right?
	We have to always realize that when they say Nazi, they mean...
	A white person who is not ashamed of being white.
	That's pretty much what it boils down to.
	So they're pretty open about their intentions, their plans, their sentiments against our people, especially those who are willing still to put on a fight.
	And people fall for this just because it is presented very heavily as this rebellious kind of subculture.
	All those kind of musical concerts and weird subcultures and so on, right?
	And I think that now we are at the time where they have overused those techniques and we could see very well that people like Rage Against the Machine would be the first ones who would tell you to Wear a mask and to obey the system, right?
	To literally obey the machine and to inject yourself with poison.
	Don't ask any questions.
	Just shut up and do it.
	So now this is falling apart.
	And they will put a lot of work into suppressing our voices and into channeling the criticism against such a systemic anti-machine subculture.
	...into the direction that serves them, right?
	So it always will be, just like we see with the modern left-wing trends, that they surely are not happy with what's going on in Israel, but the Jews already have a control over the narrative, so they will tell them that it's not all the Jews, first of all, because there are some Jews who are anti-Zionist, and then Israel is just...
	It's pretty much a white ethnostate that is all about colonizing those poor brown people.
	So if you're against whatever Israel is doing in the Middle East, then you're against white supremacy.
	So you must hate those white people because they are supporting Israel and a lot of, unfortunately, very unfortunately, a lot of white Americans and Christians are Zionists.
	They have been indoctrinated into believing that the Jews are the chosen people, that Israel is our greatest ally, and so on.
	So, yet again, the system will use all those rightful sentiments against our own people, right?
	And we will stay divided.
	And that's precisely why it is so important for us to have our own...
	Independent narrative and not rely on anything that comes from the mainstream, not rely on anything that system invests into creating those manufactured groups and molds.
	Yeah, actually, I want to chime in really quick too on this group, Rage Against the Machine.
	machine i think it's a very important people know a little bit more about them the original vocalist from uh rage against the machine it was uh zach de la rocha he was uh he was jewish he was a sephardic jew uh and the i think it was the head guitarist i believe it was uh tom morello that It might have been the bass guy, but nonetheless, he wrote an article when he was in school titled...
	South Africa, racist fascism that we support.
	So these people, quite literally, are actually in hand-in-hand with the machine.
	They like what the machine is doing in the modern age.
	Because that's exactly what the machine says today, right?
	Is fascism is evil.
	Fascism is terrible.
	We need to destroy white supremacy and racism.
	So Rage Against the Machine is quite literally hand-in-hand with the machine.
	I saw that post as well.
	I actually quoted it on my Twitter and I said, I said rage on behalf of the machine, because it really is exactly what they are.
	They're terrible people.
	Very good point as well.
	Yeah, and that's the wild thing, because it just goes back to this idea of controlled opposition in the sense that, and I believe it's true of Elon Musk and so many others, right, Donald Trump himself, where it goes back to that old adage about when the people need a hero, we will give them one.
	And Rage Against the Machine, just another wonderful example of this counterculture that is controlled opposition to drag certain parts of society in certain directions to favor certain lifestyles, choices, views on the world, etc.
	Which, at every turn, if you're not going to listen to MSNBC, listen to CNN. If you won't do CNN, listen to Sean Hannity and Fox News.
	If you won't do that, listen to Daily Wire.
	If you won't do that, listen to Alex Jones.
	All of these are just...
	They're off roads for this same group to continue, everyone in the same direction.
	The one thing that they fear is everybody looking around and saying, wait, why are all roads leading not to Rome anymore, but to Israel and to this power structure?
	So really great question there, Tanatris.
	Let's go down to Kasidi, who's got their hand up, and then we'll come up to Damian.
	Hello, everybody.
	Sorry, because I think my English is not very good.
	I will say something to all people.
	I'm from another culture, then I have probably another idea about what is happening here and what we see in the TV. First of all, I will begin by the day one, because after Trump, the day one, we...
	Everybody has seen that there is a ceasefire in Gaza, and everybody was happy to avoid all killed people and all baby killing.
	It will be stopped.
	And everyone is happy about that.
	But unfortunately, when we see those yesterday, those two days, we see that the thing has been modified or the decision is not very well adopted.
	First of all, I think that the decision, Trump is very comfortable, very comfortable when he say that Israel and Zionists are their friends.
	I don't know if this relationship is on two backs when...
	America will give something to Israel, and on the other side, Israel needs to give something to America, to be an equal relationship.
	I don't know if and from where this comfortable decision, from where he has this situation to be comfortable.
	I think people of America, they see what we have in TV. You are seeing what, maybe what, which are killing women.
	And we are talking about two million of people.
	If people have seen, I think maybe if we are, if you have, if we have different culture, it's okay.
	But there is the truth.
	It will never...
	It changes if you have another culture.
	It's not about the culture.
	I can be black or white, I can be Muslim, I can be Christian, I can be Jewish, I can be any case, but the truth is the truth.
	The truth is there is two million people.
	They didn't have home.
	We are seeing people killing babies.
	We are seeing a doctor that they are killing.
	They're all terrorists?
	How many terrorists?
	Yeah, and how many terrorists?
	I mean, it's a very curious question, because obviously when it comes to Gaza, we did see a great number of individuals that obviously would have been above and beyond Hamas.
	We got Israel reporting numbers that they initially said about the number of terrorists they thought were in Gaza.
	We've seen the death tolls.
	That is somewhere between about 7 and 10x that number.
	And so what does that mean?
	Well, if there's only X number of terrorists, but you've killed Y number of people and Y is bigger than X, well, that means that you've killed a whole lot of people that were not the terrorists.
	And who would those be?
	Well, they are obviously civilian casualties.
	And when you start doing that indiscriminately, that is a genocide.
	There's no other word for that.
	And so I just want to thank that additional perspective and speaker.
	And, you know, I also want to just note that if I'm not mistaken, I think that's the third or fourth person that we have from entirely different cultures, perhaps different parts of the world, likely even with different first languages.
	This platform, this conversation, this discussion, is reaching that larger audience, which I think is what we need, of course, to happen, as was stated before.
	So I just want to thank that individual for coming up here, for giving a little bit of a perspective that might be more firsthand, perhaps, than the one that I might be exposed to.
	But with that being said, let's go to Damien, who has their hand up so politely.
	Damien, are you there with us?
	Damien, are you there with us?
	While we wait for him, I will just jump in real quick and say we've got time for, I'll say, one more speaker because I've got eight minutes and then we've got to close the show out.
	We can obviously, like I said, continue the space, but just for the sake of the live, we have time for one more.
	Yeah, and it looks like Damien might be coming back up.
	We'll give him one more shot, and if not, we'll go to Jeff, who has their hand up.
	Damien, you can hear us.
	Yes, okay, sorry.
	Every time I come up, it, like, mutes everything for me.
	I don't know what's been going on.
	But I did have a question because I've got a theory on something that you said earlier.
	I don't know why these people who are self-proclaimed truth seekers are, like, so resistant to seeing the JQ problem.
	Whatever you want to refer to it as.
	And do you think that could be because of this QAnon thing where now everybody's pointing towards like, hey, trust the plan, trust the plan.
	Whereas the only only way that QAnon could be like an actual thing or have any credibility or make these like predictions from the past come true is if the person behind it controlling the strings, which could be, you know.
	The JQ, they could be, you know, the ones who manufactured this, basically, to keep all of those self-proclaimed truth seekers, you know, trusting the plan, but by the time they figure out that the plan is bullshit, it's, you know, too late.
	I'm having a hard time articulating it, but that was, that's, you know, in...
	Pure essence, I guess, the question I'm trying to get across.
	Could that be the link, maybe?
	You know, Damien, and I'm going to be very curious for Zach's thoughts here because he's got a better grasp on history.
	But it seems to go back to Operation Trust under the Bolsheviks, which was basically a strategic effort and endeavor to give people the presumption that there was some kind of opposition to the individuals in power that obviously...
	Commit and continued committing genocide on the Russians, again, to the tune of about 16 million people.
	And so it's not lost on me the curiosity that was Trust the Plan and Q and the similarities to that Operation Trust effort under the Bolsheviks.
	And I do.
	In many ways, I believe that QAnon and all of the other things were essentially a wild goose chase, right?
	It was following the white rabbit.
	To Wonderland.
	But the problem was that Wonderland was completely designed.
	It was contrived by and it was encouraged by all of the machine to give individuals the thought that there was somebody that was going to come to their rescue, the savior on the white horse.
	And we saw the laughability of that position all the way up until the inauguration of Joe Biden, where people said, oh, there's going to be this insurgence.
	The secret white hats are in control.
	The military is going to save the day and all of these other things.
	And the individuals that bought into that, they want to convince themselves due to ego that they were not wrong.
	That their savior is not the scam artist that I believe them to be.
	And that's the problem when you get into ego, you get into self-preservation, you get into all these different emotional widgets that the machine uses to push and to pull and to get you to be part of their game.
	And that's why we have to jettison ourselves out of the game.
	We have to look not at a different TV station and TV broadcast, but we need to look outside of the TV altogether.
	We need to realize that whatever that is feeding us is part of their agenda.
	So I really encourage everyone to be super thoughtful and to vet everyone that they consider listening to for an iota of a moment.
	With that being said, I'll turn it back over to Zach, get his thoughts on it, and let him kind of wind down the program here.
	Yeah, I think that's very accurate.
	You will see many times, this is...
	So, look at how Jews take over both narratives of both parties, right?
	They get themselves in the Democratic, you know, sector.
	They get themselves in the Republican sector.
	And they create the literal framework from which people are allowed to discuss political topics, right?
	And anything that goes outside of that box is hateful or anti-Semitism or it's, you know, so on and so forth, right?
	They have a label for basically everything.
	So they create the framework on both sides, and in the same way, they absolutely do.
	They make it look like there is some form of legitimate opposition to something that they're doing, but that opposition is never to the core problem.
	It's to a fraction of the problem.
	So I'll give you a really good example here.
	They're mass-putting immigrants into every single white country on the globe right now.
	Whether it's Australia, whether it's America, anywhere in Europe, they're doing this to every single white country.
	Not one white country is remaining a homogenous white homeland.
	And this is stated by Jews themselves that they are the heads of this and that they want us to have a demographic change in all of our nations.
	Okay, so that is what they're actively doing.
	doing and what they make out to be opposition to it is the Republican Party.
	That's the only quote unquote opposition to it within the political system.
	And they are not opposed to us losing our demographics.
	They never will discuss that piece from a Republican perspective.
	I'm getting a little bit of feedback.
	It should be fixed for you.
	They're never opposed to us losing our demographics.
	You'll never hear Donald Trump say, oh, hey, this is a majority white country, always has been, and it needs to stay that way because that's the initial character of the country.
	You don't hear them ever say anything like that.
	Rather, they say, we need to stop.
	Illegal immigration, right?
	So now the framework, yet again, is controlled in a way where you're only actually allowed to fight for a fraction of what matters.
	So the Jews themselves, they don't give a shit if the immigration is legal, illegal, whatever the country defines as legality for something like this.
	They don't care in the slightest.
	They want you to argue about the legality of it, right?
	Oh, well, if it's illegal immigrants, then yeah, and if it's illegal ones, then no, we gotta kick them out, and if it's illegal ones, then yeah, we gotta bring more in, right?
	They want you to argue about these things rather than the actual demographic problem.
	What is the problem with bringing in...
	Groups of other people, whether they're legal or illegal, demographically, what is that going to do to any nation, whether that's a white nation, a brown nation, a yellow nation, a Jewish nation, and they themselves, the Jews, say they don't want mass immigration into Israel because it's a threat to their existence.
	So is that not also a threat to every white nation's existence?
	Obviously it is, and that's why they want to push it.
	And so, yes, they will absolutely put up these kind of, like, fake guards or fake...
	Fake oppositions to the actual problems that are going on.
	And again, they only touch on these smaller fractions.
	With that said, we are coming up on the last five minutes of the show, so we're going to close the stream out in just a second here.
	Really quickly, if you could be like 60 seconds, Ian, before we close out the stream, I just want you to promote where they can find you and anything that you're doing.
	I know you're pretty much just only on X, but just promote that for them if you'd like, please, really quickly.
	Absolutely.
	And look, I encourage everybody, if you have interest, to hop into these conversations, right?
	You don't have to necessarily participate with your voice, but to do so, whether it's on X or elsewhere in your communities, on social media, whatever megaphone you feel you can utilize.
	If interested in any of the things that we talked about here, I've tried to condense a lot of them into various posts that I try to highlight for individuals on X. The hashtag is just at Ian Malcolm.
	Malcolm, 84, just like the character from Jurassic Park, who ironically spoke out against in that film, he spoke out against the arrogance of man, the lack of humility, the notions that man should control nature, even at the expense of natural law.
	And that is the thing that I try to reject.
	I find it kind of a curious, fitting handle, especially given Malcolm was a Jewish character portrayed by a Jewish actor in a movie directed by a Jew.
	All of those things.
	Rather demonstrative of the fact that I have no hate, ill will towards anybody.
	I merely speak out against these patterns that I've noticed in a way that I try to bring in a capacity that you can take them out to the world at large.
	So I will always be here on X as long as Elon allows me to.
	I'll keep trying to share these truths and I will keep thanking freedom fighters like Zach.
	Stu Peters and so many others that are out there trying to advocate for similar causes.
	So, you know, I started at the beginning.
	I will end again.
	It's a good evening, good afternoon, good night, wherever you are in the world.
	I just want to thank you for tuning in and for being part of this conversation today.
	And I hope to see you in the future.
	Thank you, Ian.
	I appreciate that outro.
	Thank you to everybody who listened in to the show.
	If you guys want to continue to listen to the space, I think the space is going to stay up for a little bit longer, so you guys are welcome to hop over into the space over on Twitter.
	Otherwise, if you enjoyed the show, thank you very much for supporting.
	Make sure to share them all around.
	It'll be up in rebroadcast format so you guys can listen to the whole thing back.
	With that said, I'll let the space continue.
	Thank you guys for listening.
	And thank you so much, Zach, for hosting us.

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