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Jan. 13, 2025 - Stew Peters Show

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Logos Academy Episode 28: Lilly Gaddis

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	Welcome, everybody.
	It's Monday.
	It is episode 28 of the Logos Academy, long waited.
	We're joined by Lily Gattis today.
	We're going to be chatting about modern politics and talking about the Jewish subversion that permeates society, as we all know.
	I think we're all coming to that conclusion.
	Lily, welcome.
	It's nice to have you.
	Thanks for having me back on.
	I appreciate it.
	Or not back on.
	I had you on, so it feels like it's returning a sequel.
	Yes, returning the favor, yeah.
	Well, I really appreciated that you had me on because we had a very interesting way of meeting.
	You know, we met in that Twitter space where we were basically just jupe-hilling you, which was quite entertaining to watch your process.
	But since you've really changed your rhetoric on Twitter, you've gone a lot into this direction of understanding.
	I'm curious in the time that you've...
	Spent learning about this problem and kind of pushing yourself into this direction.
	How has that been?
	How has your worldview changed in your eyes in the last, I don't know, what has it been?
	Maybe four or five months?
	Something like that?
	Yeah, something like that.
	I mean, I would say I came at it from like a typical...
	I wouldn't consider myself a normie because I was always pretty conservative.
	I was almost like far right-ish.
	But, you know, raised evangelical, Christian, whatever, it's not like in the forefront of your brain.
	You don't even think about it at all.
	The only thing you know about Israel is pastors go to visit Israel, Christians go to visit Israel.
	They're our greatest ally.
	They are holding down democracy in the Middle East, and we should support them unconditionally.
	So I just never really thought anything else of it.
	I wasn't even interested to dig into it.
	I didn't think it was pertinent at all until I came across, you know, thrown into Twitter and this whole world.
	And thankfully, I came across two people, you and Ian, who were very educated on this.
	It could have gone in a very different direction.
	I would have, you know, ran into some other people less educated.
	But for that, I am very appreciative.
	Yeah, and I guess like everybody who understands, once you see, you can't unsee.
	So again, I was a little bit reluctant.
	I was like, what?
	Is this like some schizophrenic group on Twitter who's like, Jews, Jews, Jews?
	And then I was like, wait, it is Jews, Jews, Jews.
	They're everywhere.
	They are running everything.
	That's the hardest part is delivery of this issue, right?
	Because it really is Jew behind every door, right?
	And that can get...
	From the outside looking in when you don't see it through that lens, it does.
	It probably does look extremely schizophrenic for most people.
	We were equally appreciative of having you come into this space with an open mind because that's the hardest part is to have somebody open-mindedly look into this problem, hear us out, hear what we have to say, and then look into it themselves.
	One comment you made on the space that I really appreciated was you said, Something along the lines of, look, I'm a woman.
	I'm not really super into deep diving in politics, but I'll be a pipeline.
	I'll talk about it in areas that I feel comfortable, but I'm not going to be reading all of the literature and things like that.
	And I appreciated that because it was honest and it was open.
	And that's a rarity when we're on this problem.
	Everybody wants to put themselves out in this image that's some kind of...
	False view of who they actually are.
	So we did appreciate that a lot.
	Well, I mean, I would never consider myself a scholar.
	I would rather refer to myself as retarded so then the expectations are really low.
	So then maybe, you know, if I say something, you know, halfway decently smart, people are like...
	You know, pleasantly surprised rather than, oh, look at this genius who thinks she knows everything and she's actually a complete idiot.
	So, and you know, again, it is true.
	Like, women, we're not like, we don't really have naturally super curious minds.
	I don't think we're designed that way.
	We're supposed to just be...
	You know, at home, raising children, being a good partner to our husband, and that sort of thing.
	I'm not trying to play, downplay women.
	Obviously, we can do a lot of good things.
	There's a lot of good writers, like Michelle Malcolm's a really good writer and stuff like that.
	But in general, we're not like, we're not like the Ian Carrolls of the world where we want to go down these deep rabbit holes, just because that's not how we're wired.
	Why we're not good in STEM. You know, there's a reason for all of those things.
	But yeah, I was definitely, I've always had a pretty open mind, especially anything, you know, right of center.
	I'm pretty much open to listening to everything.
	At this point, I believe, you know, most conspiracy theories probably are mostly true.
	But yeah, I appreciate you guys.
	Like, you could have just written me off like a lot of people did and been like, oh, she's a Jew.
	We're not even going to talk to her.
	But like, you were actually, you know, very, like, welcoming and kind and sweet.
	And then you had the information and the evidence to back it up, and I was like, wow, okay, this is crazy.
	I can't believe I never knew about this, but that's obviously part of the plan to keep people in the dark about this.
	Thankfully, I think that window is opening and the light is starting to shine in, which is why, you know, we're probably going to see in the coming months bannings and social media censorship really go through the roof like we haven't seen since maybe 2020. Yeah, I certainly agree.
	And I think just to kind of back up a little, some of the reason that people instantly wrote you off or they didn't want anything to do, it just assumed you were Jewish, right?
	I think the big piece on that is the growth that you had on social media, right?
	So a lot of people, they're...
	Their framework of how they view this is essentially you can't grow unless you're Jewish, right?
	So, I mean, I've been accused of being Jewish before because I've had some decent growth on Twitter, certainly not to the extent that you have, but enough that it was raising red flags in some people's minds.
	So, maybe to kind of go into that a little bit, how did you experience this growth on Twitter?
	Where did this come from in your eyes?
	You know, what was the thing that kind of like...
	Pushed you out there into a more mainstream sense?
	I mean, I honestly don't know.
	I don't know how algorithms work.
	I don't get really that sort of thing.
	I had social media, but it was all personal, girly things.
	I had a decent following on TikTok, which probably helped.
	I had about 30,000 followers on TikTok just from, you know, posting just like girly TikToks, not like anything political.
	Now, I've always been political, so I would throw some, you know, pro-Trump stuff in there or conservative stuff or making fun of stuff.
	In fact, I posted one during COVID because I had gotten COVID and I was like, fine.
	I basically posted a TikTok about that.
	Like, this is being blown out of proportion.
	This is BS.
	Don't buy into it.
	It's fake.
	But never really super political.
	So I'm sure having already a big audience where my...
	My TikToks were already getting pretty decent growth.
	That helps.
	So people think I just came from nothing.
	I mean, 30,000 is not that much.
	But for somebody who just naturally grew that just from lifeguarding videos and outfit videos and stuff like that, that's okay.
	So I had decent reach already.
	My videos already got a lot of likes, a lot of views.
	So I was already kind of out there a little bit.
	I can only attribute the...
	The reason why the one video went so viral, just because we're in a very race-tense time right now, I think that's probably intentional.
	They're probably trying to pit the races against each other to cause chaos so they can bring in whatever they want.
	But it was primed for something like this.
	And the problem for the black community is there are not actually that many racists out there.
	So when they finally find something that they can say that's racist, they're going to jump all over it, obviously.
	Black Twitter goes crazy.
	So I don't really see a video going viral.
	I see TikTok videos going around on Twitter all the time that go pretty viral.
	So I don't really see anything strange about that.
	It just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
	I already had a pretty big following.
	And it just hit Twitter.
	All the rest of the social media things.
	And then the victim complex comes out.
	So everybody's got to share it because they're like, look at this racist.
	We were right all along.
	Those evil white people.
	So, I mean, I guess that's how it happened.
	I don't know.
	You tell me.
	Maybe somebody was boosting me, unbeknownst to me.
	But as far as I'm concerned, it's just outrage culture.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I think there is a combination of the two.
	Certainly, you'll notice Black Twitter will always do that.
	They'll try to pick up on any little inkling of racism that they can find.
	And then I think where people are most interested is that a lot of these lukewarm conservative accounts that are obviously not politically aligned with us at all started picking up on it and defending you.
	And I think that is where...
	A lot of people go, wait a minute, whoa, why is Charlie Kirk positive about this person?
	Because we know these people are scumbags.
	And I think what happens is people like that in the conservative apparatus, just as a piece here, you said nigga in your TikTok, right?
	Yeah, I didn't even say- I'm willing to bet any amount of money in the world if you said nigger.
	Those conservative people would not have been pushing you, right?
	There's no way.
	And to be fair, most of the Daily Wire, Brett Cooper, Matt Walsh, who's the other guy?
	Michael Knowles.
	They all put out anti-videos about me, like hit pieces about me.
	So the Daily Wire was not friendly.
	The Blaze was not friendly.
	PragerU was not friendly.
	You know the black girl that works for PragerU?
	She put out a whole video just making fun of me, shitting on me.
	There was accounts like Mark Dice.
	He was one of the kind of conservative ones who was pro-me.
	But actually, as far as Big Con Inc., like Daily Wire, The Blaze, PragerU, when you think of those kind of think tanks, they were not really pro-me, actually.
	So it was just more the kind of alternative.
	Like Candace Owens put out a good video with me and stuff like that.
	But a lot of them were anti.
	Just because I guess they thought I was a bad look for the conservative movement, because all they care about is optics, not the truth, obviously.
	Of course, right?
	It's a massive conservative group.
	Well, it is good to hear from your perspective that they were against you, because that adds some credence.
	Because the thing is, they will...
	Well, you see this Lady MAGA thing that they're always pushing.
	They're always pushing these degenerate values.
	The most recent Republican convention, Republican, right?
	It's supposed to be real conservative, and it's got every race of person on the stage.
	You've got homos on the stage.
	Degenerate rappers are up there.
	And it's like, okay, well, what are we conserving at this point?
	There's really nothing left.
	Well, we know.
	They're two sides of the same bird, or two wings of the same bird, right?
	So they're going to do their best to continue to push those negative values, but from a different, more traditional perspective, right?
	Well, it's okay if they're a degenerate rapper, as long as they vote for Trump or something of the sort.
	So it is interesting to look at it from that perspective, that some of those bigger pieces were shitting on you as well, which then kind of gets you now into this...
	I hate the term, but more radical realm, where you're getting away from the mainstream, you're getting into what the mainstream would call the fringes of the political atmosphere, where we're now talking about things like the Jewish problem, racial consciousness, the ills of society that the common Republicans won't talk about.
	So how has your experience been in that since you've maybe...
	Been in that space with us and you've started now touching on the Jewish problem, touching on race issues to a larger degree than, you know, just like lukewarm saying nigga on a TikTok.
	How has your experience been with that?
	What is your, what kind of responses are you receiving from these groups which are, you know, vast and all over the place?
	I mean, people aren't a fan.
	I get people that DM me all the time from kind of, like, lukewarm right-wing, and they're like, you're destroying your career.
	Like, you need to distance yourself from these people.
	But I'm like, but these people are the only ones telling the truth.
	Like, that's fine and dandy, you know, to be, like, nice and politically correct, I guess.
	But you're not doing anything.
	Like, you're not...
	I mean, even...
	There's something to be said for saying nigger online because it opens that Overton window of what you can't say, you know?
	And people might disagree with that and not like optics, but we've been so concerned with optics for so many years that that's why we're where we are, you know?
	And we don't want this person.
	We don't want that person because they don't look good or they don't fit, you know, what we're supposed to look, the mold.
	So, I mean, I've always been pretty far right, really.
	Let's be real.
	Obviously, you can't be like that on TikTok, so I was very toned down and very vanilla on TikTok.
	But I kind of felt more at home on the fringe because that's kind of where I was.
	And I can only imagine that Daily Wire, PragerU kind of picked up that vibe just from the way I was talking, what I was saying, even though I wasn't even touching the Jewish question yet because I didn't really realize that was a thing at that point.
	So I can only assume that they kind of picked up that vibe.
	Like, this is more a fringe person.
	This is too edgy for us.
	So we're just going to make sure we axe that before it gets out of hand, right?
	But yeah, I feel more at home with people like you and other people on the fringe just because I feel like they're actually doing something.
	It's not just talking about, you know, oh, can you believe trainees are reading stories to kids?
	I mean, obviously we should talk about that.
	But it's like that's kind of the only issues that they're allowed to talk about, right?
	They're not allowed to talk about the real things that's going on.
	And instead of calling them globalists, like I used to think it was just the globalists, and I was like, wait a minute, the globalists are Jews.
	It's all Jews, you know?
	Right.
	It's a common tactic.
	And, you know, being a Republican or a conservative 40 years ago, it was completely different than it is today, right?
	Back then, you were against gays.
	For the most part, they were...
	Fervently racist.
	They were very racially conscious.
	Probably the Jewish peace was never a part for the Republican Party.
	It was always that one line that was never allowed since post-World War II. You can see it all the way back in the Birch Society is a really good example.
	They've been around countersignaling any kind of racism or talking about Jews in general.
	They've been doing their best to kind of shut those things out.
	Calling it a non-conservative or non-traditional value, but traditionally, all of our people were always very careful about racial questions.
	I mean, look at America.
	There's a reason we had segregation.
	There's a reason that we looked at these things through a legal lens and said, look, we have to have areas for ours and theirs, because if not, well, you see what happens.
	You see the anarchy that's constant on Twitter.
	Like we were just talking about with Black Twitter, they're constantly looking for that racist catalyst that they can all attack and browbeat because it gives them societal status, right?
	If they crack us down, if they look for any person that they can try to mass attack, it takes your status down and it gives it to them.
	That's the whole goal here.
	And to be honest with you, when you see these Republican, again, quote-unquote conservatives up on the television, countersignaling people like us that are talking about racial issues.
	They're complicit in us losing our social status and giving it up to third-worlders.
	It's just completely insane.
	So I agree with you.
	There's always these...
	They create this box, this framework that you're allowed to speak within.
	So when you talk about immigration as a conservative, you can only talk about illegal immigration, right?
	We want immigration, but we just don't want it illegally, right?
	So they're always playing this weird kind of legal obfuscation game.
	We see this.
	Trump is also a good example.
	I'm very curious to hear your take on Trump, because I know for a long time you were very positive about Trump, and I saw a lot of posts in the past where you were, you know, Trump 2024, let's get this guy in or something.
	What is your take on Trump now?
	After you've kind of enlightened yourself on the Jewish problem, you're starting to see a little bit more on this, again, we'll say fringe politics.
	How do you view Trump now?
	Well, I mean, okay, I'm gonna say I held on as long as I could.
	I tried to be MAGA for as long as I possibly could, but it just kept getting worse and worse and worse.
	Like, you know, you make the excuses in your mind, well, you know, maybe he's just like playing 40 chess or whatever.
	But then at some point you just have to realize, okay, he's working with the enemy.
	You know, like the Heritage Foundation, they put out that article about essentially quelling anti-Semitism.
	And one of the...
	They have to have a willing administration in order to play out what they want to do to shut down people's voices, right?
	And so the fact that legacy media is rallying behind Trump, the fact that he's surrounding himself with Zionist Jews, the fact that he's in bed with Elon, which I feel like there's a falling out coming there because those are two...
	I don't feel like Trump likes to be pushed to second.
	And Musk is trying to, like, take over.
	So I have a feeling there's going to be a falling out between those two and it's not going to be pretty.
	But anyway, back to Trump.
	I just, you know, at some point you just have to realize, okay, we were taken.
	You know, he's not the savior.
	Obviously no politician is the savior.
	But it was his picks were terrible.
	And basically him, you know, kind of trying to distance himself from the far right, from his real base.
	Kind of just shitting on us.
	The first time I started really falling out with Trump was when he started kind of walking back on his pro-life policies.
	Obviously, I'm very pro-life.
	And that's a massive base for him as well.
	And he just doesn't care.
	It's like he's just capitulating and capitulating.
	And I'm like, this is all we're going to get.
	He's just going to be used as a puppet.
	And it's just, it's not...
	It's not any good, so I'm off the Trump train now, at long last.
	It took a while.
	Well, I'm happy to hear that, because it's one of the things I see a lot of our people get stuck on.
	The problem is he's got this charisma, his character, the rhetoric, and he's an interesting and captivating speaker, so people become infatuated with that.
	And I think there is this lingering...
	Well, probably why you stayed on so long and why so many do is there's this lingering hope factor that somehow the system still works and we don't need to completely take down this whole system and put something new in its stead.
	Maybe somehow the Republican Party can just fix this and we don't have to have a restart.
	And I think it's an unhealthy hope, but it's a nice thing that they're hoping for.
	I do understand why people feel that way.
	But I'll tell you, I've been off the Trump train for at least three years.
	Oh, wow.
	Once I got into the Jewish problem and I started recognizing that and reading into some of the incredible insights that Hitler lays out in Mein Kampf and just his description of the political system.
	And mind you, they were in the same political system that we're in today.
	It was a democracy for whatever the hell that's worth.
	And, you know, he lays out, like, how these systems are corrupt.
	And he literally says, like, only the biggest cowards in the world will ever participate in this system.
	Like, this system breeds corrupt people.
	So naturally, anybody that is in these fields of politics, they'll be somebody that's somehow morally corrupt, morally bankrupt, whether they're materialistic or they've got some weird, you know, like...
	Child pornography thing that they have going on behind the scenes and they're blackmailed by that.
	There's always some kind of catalyst that holds these people hostage to this system.
	Otherwise, they wouldn't be in it, right?
	They wouldn't allow somebody who's completely morally clean, has no legal history, and has never done anything bad and has these strong convictions that we talk about.
	They wouldn't allow that person around.
	You're a perfect example.
	You said you weren't even that...
	That extreme.
	You were very lukewarm just saying nigga, right?
	Not even in like a serious racial context.
	And already you have PragerU attacking.
	It wasn't even racist at that point.
	I mean, I am racist now, but that's what they asked for.
	But at that point, it genuinely was not even racist.
	Well, it's good.
	I think it's good that the system does attack people like yourself and others because...
	That helps the radicalization process.
	That helps people come to the conclusion, okay, you have a choice.
	You're going to get called racist either way, whether you actually are or you aren't.
	So maybe it's actually a good thing.
	Maybe they don't want you to be that for a reason.
	I think that makes a lot of sense.
	Right.
	Well, and by kind of marginalizing, if you want to use a lefty term.
	All these, you know, fringe people and putting them in a box and not speaking to them.
	You're actually just creating a movement of the outcasts, right?
	And people kind of tend to root for the underdog, root for the outcast, and now they're going to get together and they're going to talk.
	So it's actually a smarter tactic if they integrated them in and then tried to take them out rather than completely cutting them off.
	So then they're like, well, fuck you.
	I'm not even going to try to ingratiate myself with you, right?
	So now they can create their own thing.
	So I feel like it's going to backfire, you know, because they're marginalizing so many of us.
	So you're just going to end up with another revolutionary party because you asked for it.
	You pushed them to that point.
	You know, most people aren't racist.
	They become racist, right?
	Out of the actions of people and stuff like that.
	So just like with the black-white issue, there was no racism until they kept pushing for that.
	They kept pushing white people into a corner.
	And now white people are racist and white people are about to stand up and black people are going to lose.
	Yeah, I think that's an interesting analysis.
	This is something I talk about a lot on my show.
	One of the things Jews have always done historically, I think it's their biggest mistake.
	They martyr people.
	They did this with Christ.
	They did this with Hitler.
	Then the rest of the world starts to love these people because they've been martyred.
	They do this in the modern atmosphere.
	Look at Kanye, just as a small example.
	There's a lot of people in my circles that never would have even looked at Kanye or given him the time of day because he makes degenerate music and he's a rapper and all this dumb shit.
	Since they martyred him over this whole Zionism thing, instantly you get all these people that start praising him and looking at him in a more positive light than they ever would have.
	You'll see this time and time again.
	It's a very common mistake that they make, which I think we should be capitalizing on.
	Whenever somebody does get banned or censored or outcasted for...
	Look at the ADL. They have an article on their website that says the term, it's okay to be white, is hate speech.
	When they're doing things like that, it's so easy for us to propagandize that and show really what these people are doing.
	Right.
	But I think they're kind of waking up to that, to be honest, which is why I feel like the big Silicon Valley is kind of...
	I feel like they've realized that because now you have techies who study algorithms.
	They know how people work.
	They know how people respond.
	You can see it all laid out in a blueprint.
	And so, you know, they're going to start mass censoring, but it's not going to be like the censoring of the past where you ban somebody because you ban somebody and then now people are talking about it.
	Now people actually want to follow that person, right?
	So I feel like what they're going to do is, I mean, Meta is introducing these bot accounts where they...
	And they want to make it seem as organic as possible, even like with Elon Musk.
	A lot of these times, they're not going to tell you you violated anything.
	That's why they have these big gray areas.
	YouTube doesn't really lay out...
	You can't say this, this, and that.
	They want this gray area, so there's plausible deniability.
	So they could be like, well, you violated our terms, but I'm like, well, what terms exactly?
	Same with X. You can just demonetize people, but there's no real announcement of it.
	They don't let you know.
	So again, the plausible deniability.
	And you're circumventing that whole making a martyr out of somebody.
	So then they're bitching about, oh man, I got demonetized.
	I got my checkmark removed and stuff.
	But yet there's no announcements or whatever.
	So it's not blatant censorship.
	It's like subtle censorship.
	Like, let's kill their reach.
	You know, the whole freedom of speech but not freedom of reach.
	It's really clever because you can silence people without making a martyr out of them.
	And I think that's something that we're probably going to see more of.
	We need to keep an eye out because it's not going to be as obvious now because they know.
	They know how this works.
	Yeah, I think you're very right.
	And this is where it gets into actually...
	Organizing against these things, right?
	They have shadow banning.
	A really good example they've done on X, because this isn't martyring people and people don't feel as bad, is lately people are just getting demonetized.
	A lot of people in our circles, they're losing their check marks, they're getting demonetized, which drastically decreases their reach, so they can't reach out to new people on new fronts and spread this message around.
	But at the same time, it doesn't look like they're having a serious crackdown on these people, even though it is very evident.
	Especially when it's happening at the same time.
	I mean, we're seeing Sam Parker, Stu Peters, all these people at the same time losing their check marks, losing their ability to spread their messaging.
	It's obviously coordinated on their end, the fact that it's all happening at the same time.
	I think you're very right.
	I think that's actually happened to me.
	Sorry to interrupt you.
	I think that's happened to me because I've been talking to X Premium for a while because I have not gotten both my payouts for the past two times.
	There's been no notification that I've been demonetized or anything.
	I've talked to the banks.
	It hasn't gone in there.
	And then they just keep stalling, like, sorry, it's not on our end.
	We don't know what's going on.
	But I'm like, there's been no trouble for the past 20 payouts I've had, and all of a sudden it's not going in.
	And they just don't want to respond.
	They just ghost you, essentially.
	So, yeah, that's going on a lot more.
	I don't like...
	It's a weird thing to talk about because then people are like, oh, you're just mad because you're not making any money, you know?
	And it's like, well, no, I don't really care.
	It's like a hundred bucks.
	It's not a big deal.
	But at the same time, it's like, oh, wow.
	Okay.
	So you start speaking out against them.
	They're going to shadow ban you.
	They're going to demonetize you and kill your reach that way without telling you.
	So then you're just like, well, maybe it's something on my end and let it go.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You're right.
	I have been fortunate myself.
	Somehow I've avoided these demonetizations and bans.
	I've been pretty lucky.
	Uh-oh, you must be a Jew.
	I must be, right?
	He's a Jew!
	I think, I guess, I'm a little more careful on my rhetoric.
	You know, I obviously am, well, I guess if I'm in a space, I'm a little more extreme because I'll just, I'm very verbal, but...
	When I type things in on the algorithm, I kind of let the clips do the speaking rather than the titles or things like that.
	Maybe it's just the way that I format my tweets.
	I am sure that if I get any larger, they are going to go after me.
	It's kind of inevitable.
	Anytime somebody hits a certain amount of reach, it becomes a problem for them.
	I guess time will tell on that front, but in that same regard, with the Jew accusations, this is something I see on your profile.
	Constantly.
	So much so, you uploaded a video the other day showing your side profile to prove your non-Jewish physiognomy.
	I was kind of crashing out a little bit, I'm not going to lie.
	I crashed out over the weekend.
	I'm done.
	I'm done with my tantrum, but I'm annoyed.
	Well, it's good.
	I mean, I think it's good to be very upfront about...
	You know, what your physiotomy is and your background and things like that.
	In this movement, you have to be, because that's one of the worst things that you can experience is the, well, they use the term fed jacketing, so we'll say Jew jacketing, right?
	When someone says that you're Jewish and they try to throw the Jewish cloak on you, it can be very problematic because it'll discredit people that in our movement we need to be listening to or at least having kind of on our side.
	And the worst thing you can do is try to push those people away.
	I've experienced it, too.
	I've had all kinds of ridiculous accusations, all of which have been false.
	So I'm sure you're probably in the same boat with that.
	So I'm curious, in your assessment, first, when did these accusations start?
	Do you know where they originated at?
	I would say day one.
	Like, as soon as I got on Twitter, it started.
	And there was, like, two accounts that were propagating it, propagating a lot of other lies about me, including that I have a black child, which I don't.
	I mean, there's so many pictures of him out there, like, on my Instagram and stuff.
	Like, it's just, like, willful ignorance at this point, you know?
	But, yeah, I would say it started, like, pretty much day one.
	And this is before I realized any of this Jew stuff, so I was like, huh, Jew?
	Of all the things that people could be calling me, Jewish?
	That's so weird, you know?
	But yeah, it's pretty much been non-stop.
	And I refuse to do one of those DNA kits because they're Jewish-owned, and I have looked way into this.
	They can trace you with law enforcement with those things.
	You can find family members that you didn't know about with these genealogy things.
	They can make clones of you.
	They can sell your DNA and stuff.
	So I would recommend to people, don't fall for that.
	I think it's kind of a...
	I just get a bad vibe from those.
	And this was a long time.
	Everybody wants to know what their heritage is or whatever.
	And I've always been curious and wanted to get one, but I've never got one because I got the same bad vibe about it as I did with the vaccines.
	I just feel like it's not a good idea.
	And they're masquerading as, oh, this is a fun time.
	Meanwhile, they're collecting your data and your DNA. And they're Jewish-owned.
	Come on, 23andMe?
	I just don't think it's a good idea.
	Plus, it's expensive, too.
	Yeah, well, and the connections that these people have, right?
	So 23andMe...
	I'm sure you know it's owned by Wojciki, the sister of the woman who owned YouTube.
	And interestingly enough, the sister who owns 23andMe is married to the Jew that founded Google.
	And they have a foundation where they donate to like APAC. So it's like, I agree with you, especially on 23andMe.
	I don't know, I'm not well researched enough to know which DNA testing companies are.
	Not Jewish-owned and might be safe, but I just wouldn't bother testing that out.
	I mean, you know enough to look at your family historically.
	You can look at your physiognomy.
	Physiognomy is one of the best.
	And, you know, if you have a really keen eye and you're very familiar with the Jewish issue and how these people function, there is a behavior type that is, like, prevalently Jewish, right?
	So, as something I saw, you know, again, when we were in that space before...
	When we first had met you, and you said, hey, I'll just be honest.
	What you guys are saying is really compelling, but I'm a woman.
	I'm not super political.
	I'm not going to go really deep dive into these things.
	That's not something a Jewish woman would say.
	Think about your Laura Loomer, right?
	She would be all, oh, I totally understand this.
	I'm all over this.
	I get this.
	Let me show you how it is.
	It's that kind of...
	Over high testosterone, masculine type of energy that a lot of these Jewish women emit.
	They're naturally very manly.
	That's why you look at a lot of these communist movements.
	It's Jewish women leading them, right?
	They're the ones that started the feminism wave.
	And unfortunately, some of our women get duped into that.
	But there is a nature in people that you can see behavior-wise what they are, right?
	Just think about...
	Black and white reactions to agitation.
	You see the classic chimp-outs where they're flipping out.
	You see 80 of them beating each other up in an airport or in a Jiffy Lube parking lot.
	You don't ever see videos of 80 white people mobbing on each other.
	You just never see it.
	There's very clear behavior traits that are a piece of this as well.
	Yeah, okay.
	I gotta think about the three main accusations.
	It's my old last name.
	You know, people have family issues.
	They have falling outs in their families.
	And sometimes people don't want to carry on that last name, especially since I was about to have a child.
	So I changed my name to my mom's last name, which is Gaddis.
	Coleman, which, by the way, is not even Jewish.
	So that's all that is.
	You want to keep digging?
	All you're going to dig up is some unfortunate family issues, okay?
	So that's the Coleman one.
	What's the other one?
	My old tweets from 2019, obviously I supported Israel like everybody else did.
	I don't think that's a gotcha.
	I think that's just normal.
	People don't come out of the womb JQ'd, okay?
	That's not how it works.
	What's the other one?
	Do you know what the other accusation is?
	My last name?
	Oh, a nose job.
	People say, okay, I had a period in college.
	Yes, it's embarrassing.
	I'm a girl, college girl, dummy.
	And I hated my nose, so I thought I was really subtle with the Photoshop.
	And I Photoshopped my nose to look smaller.
	So now people are using old Photoshopped pictures of mine to prove that I have gotten a nose job.
	Not knowing that nose jobs are supposed to make your nose look smaller, not bigger.
	So why would I get a nose job to make it look bigger?
	That's just retarded.
	Yeah, you got a Jewish extension on your nose now.
	Exactly!
	If anything, I was trying to Photoshop it to look more Jewish.
	By the way, no hook.
	It's kind of round, but there's no hook.
	I don't think you have Jewish physiognomy at all, to be honest with you.
	Well, thank you.
	It feels good to have someone believe in you.
	Well, I tend to have a very good Judar.
	I don't want to be braggadocious here, but there are very few people I've been wrong about.
	And I'll tell you what, if I'm wrong about you, I'm going to be really mad at you.
	I really will.
	If I'm here standing up for you and you're actually a Yid subverting me, I'm going to be very upset.
	As far as my best knowledge, I am not a Jew.
	As far as you know, great.
	That's perfect.
	This is another piece on those DNA tests.
	They'll fumble in a little bit of Jewish DNA with people.
	They'll try to throw in a little 2% Ashkenazi or something like that so that the person, when they get their DNA test, they look back at it and go, oh, I might have a little Jewish in me.
	Oh, maybe they're not so bad.
	I think that's one of the bigger problems that we have here.
	You probably experienced this through the more lukewarm conservatives that follow you because I do see you have a lot of those.
	One thing that I think is hilarious.
	Under your tweets, when you say something that's like half can be considered racist, it's not even bad, right?
	You're just like, oh, I'm pro-white or something.
	You have all these normies attacking you and calling you like a racist and you're evil, you're hateful.
	I make posts where I'm like, oh, like niggers are disgusting.
	And I don't ever see those responses.
	Like I don't have any of those people anywhere near me in my algorithms.
	So I just go under the radar from that, which is great.
	I love it.
	I'm very fortunate in that regard because you get a lot of that backlash.
	Maybe to shift to that a little bit, when you're on Twitter and you get a lot of these lukewarm people in your messages or commenting underneath you, how do you handle that?
	Are those people...
	Because you're getting attacked from two different angles.
	You're getting attacked from...
	People that are basically saying you're too extreme, and then other people that are saying, well, you're not actually extreme, you're subversive.
	So both of the sides are pinching you in.
	So we talked about the more radical element.
	How do you handle the more conservative side when they're calling you racist and all the typical jargon that you get from...
	I could care less.
	To be honest, that's the same as opinions of lefties.
	If you have pronouns in your bio, if you're lukewarm, conservative, I don't care.
	Does not bother me.
	Literally the only comments that really do irritate me are the ones from the fringe, like my people, when they're like, oh, you're subversive.
	Those are literally the only ones.
	I shouldn't even be saying this because now they're all going to pile on knowing it annoys me, which it does, by the way.
	But no, I could care less.
	I think I have a lot of hate followers.
	They follow me just because they hate my gut.
	So that's where all the normies are coming from.
	Well, it makes sense, right?
	Talked about how you grew through getting shit on by PragerU and all of these other organizations.
	Naturally, some of those people that are manipulated to think that Dennis Prager is some conservative pariah, right?
	He's an amazing man.
	Yeah, obviously, they naturally will be following the public consensus of what you are based on your views.
	So I guess that makes a lot of sense.
	I'm curious on the accusations.
	The last name Gaddis, are you familiar with the origins of Gaddis?
	I don't know much about that last name.
	I don't know.
	I guess my mom's side is, there's a lot of Native American, like Cherokee, and then I guess Scottish or something?
	And then my dad, I've never really, I always thought like people who are obsessed with their ancestry were pretty gay.
	So I never really looked into it.
	But on my dad's side, they were always like, yeah, we're Scottish.
	We're from Scotland.
	So that's all I know.
	Native American, Scottish, some Dutch, something like that.
	Euromut.
	There's a lot of different things in the mix.
	Yeah, you know, it's actually funny that you say that because that's another big piece that...
	What society tries to teach us is that it's a bad thing to care about your ancestry.
	It's just dumb.
	It's weird.
	But it's so fundamentally important when you actually understand these things.
	I wish I knew more about mine.
	I can ask my grandparents, what was my great-grandmother?
	Do you know?
	Most of them, they don't know.
	They've lost that instinct.
	I think part of that is the Americanization.
	When they come to America from Europe, they lose those roots a lot of times.
	They start to get rid of the traditions and the family heirlooms and things like that.
	I think that's a big problem.
	They turn to American culture, which in my eyes is mostly materialism and consumerism.
	I think there's very few good traditions inside of American culture.
	Right.
	When they've done a good job at killing white people's heritage, while...
	Encouraging minorities.
	Black people are obsessed.
	I mean, obviously, Black people think everything was Black.
	Jesus, the Egyptians, everything was Black.
	But they're encouraged to celebrate their heritage, but we're not, right?
	And that's true.
	A lot of us, we don't know anything.
	Even a long time ago, people would have the family crest.
	That's not a thing anymore.
	Now, maybe we kind of like shed that when we broke off from England because that was more of a European thing.
	But yeah, there's not like family heirlooms.
	People don't even care.
	Like when they get land handed down to them, they like want to sell it off.
	And I think that's all just been, you know, when you can see it from the bigger picture, I guess it's all been put into place on purpose to kill our white identity.
	Meanwhile, they've been preserving the identity of blacks, of Mexicans, of everybody else.
	Jewish people, obviously.
	They go to Israel all the time.
	They're obsessed with their ancestry, which, you know, we should probably start doing the same thing because it obviously works, you know, and everybody else cares about their heritage except for white people.
	Yeah, you're right.
	One of the bigger ones that you'll notice is...
	When you have conversations, and especially when you watch some of these gay Jubilee videos on YouTube and things like that, anytime a Jewish person comes up and starts talking, they always start with, well, as a Jewish person, right?
	And blacks do the same.
	As a black person, as if we don't know.
	We can't see that you're black, right?
	But you don't ever hear that from our people.
	It's considered a socially bad thing to do to start with your sentence with, As a white person, I identify as this.
	And that's obviously, again, intentional.
	They do everything they can to kind of browbeat racial consciousness out of us through social pressures.
	That's where this whole racism ordeal, right?
	I hate the term.
	I absolutely despise it.
	I truly do.
	Because it's a way to browbeat us out of caring about ourselves.
	Because you don't only get called racist when you say...
	Oh, you know, black people behave like children.
	But when you also say, oh, I'm proud to be white.
	Well, that's also racist now, right?
	You don't hear anybody say that's racist when a black person says it.
	So it's these social browbeating tactics.
	So I'm curious, as somebody who...
	You didn't grow up in a racially conscious household, I don't think, right?
	I mean, I was raised in really...
	Okay, so I was born and raised...
	I was born in North Carolina.
	Raised for a while in Alabama.
	Very white, obviously.
	No blacks.
	And then raised for the rest of my time in Georgia.
	So I was always in very white areas.
	So again, if it's not like in your curfew, it doesn't really come up in that case.
	But yeah, we were always like, we didn't really hang out with black people and Mexicans.
	We didn't think ourselves superior.
	But at the same time, it's like, well, that's different, and here's our people, and we just stick to our own.
	But again, we weren't raised in super diverse areas, I guess, so it just didn't really come up.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	It was more instinctual.
	It was kind of just, oh, those people kind of aren't us.
	We will do our thing.
	I mean, my little brother was pretty racist.
	He saw a black person for the first time in the store, and he started freaking out and was like, what's that?
	Young men typically are.
	It's instinctual.
	It really is.
	I grew up in Pennsylvania.
	There's a lot of blacks.
	I'm not far from Philly.
	They're all over the place here and there.
	My family was very racist.
	I was told as a kid, no brown people in the house.
	As simple as that.
	I listened to it as a rule.
	On my own independent experience, seeing how these people behave while you're in high school or middle school and you're around these people, it's like, yeah, they're not the same.
	They're just not.
	And I'll never forget, actually, a funny story.
	My best friend since childhood that I met, when I met him, we met in middle school and we were doing a geography project.
	And we were doing some kind of a map thing, and we both looked at Africa and pointed at Niger, and we both laughed at the same time and said, nigger.
	And that's how I met my best friend since childhood.
	So it's always been instilled inside of me in some way.
	Now, I'm curious, because this piece is so difficult for most white people when they come to this realization that Jews are actually a separate...
	Race from us.
	When did that start to occur to you?
	How did you come to realize that they're not actually racially the same?
	It's not just religious, but they're racially different people than us.
	Where did you come to that realization?
	I guess it's like a snowball.
	I kind of obviously was in your spaces, seen a lot of these things, and kind of looked into it a little bit.
	And I was like, oh, wow.
	So there's Jews or whatever.
	And then at that point, I was just like, I guess it's a religious thing.
	And then just kind of like over the course of time figured out, okay, it's an ethnic thing and that explains a lot, right?
	That explains the anti-white rhetoric because I was always like, wait, why are they pushing then stuff that's going to get them killed, right?
	When they're obviously white.
	But then when it clicked and I was like, oh, they're not.
	It's like an ethnicity.
	Yeah, but that happened, I don't know, a couple months ago?
	Yes, you're fresh.
	You're very fresh on this.
	Yeah, rookie.
	Well, like you said, once you see it, you can't unsee it.
	I mean, it becomes so prevalent.
	You know, you'll get a person, a so-called white person in a space, and you'll start to hear their voice, and some of the things they're saying, you're like, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute, that's a Jew.
	No way, right?
	I definitely, because now I was very, you probably experienced the same thing growing up.
	I was never around Jews.
	I didn't really know what a Jew was when I was a child.
	Like, if someone would have...
	I don't really understand what that even means.
	But after, again, studying into these things a little bit deeper, you start to realize, wait a minute, historically, all of our ancestors warned us about these people.
	Every single magnificent man in history talked about this problem, saw them as a foreigner.
	You have philosophers like...
	Schopenhauer, who literally said that these people will be a threat to the world, right?
	And we see it.
	I mean, obviously today, now that they've gotten this egregious level of power in America and all of the West, we see how threatening they really are.
	I mean, what they're doing in Israel is just, it's microscopic compared to what they have planned for everybody.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I had the same, like, growing up.
	Like, again, no Jews, at least as far as I know of.
	The first time I think I saw a Jew was whenever I went to...
	I went to New York City for my 18th birthday.
	And we went to the Met, the museum, and there was a lot of, like...
	Are they Hasidic Jews when they wear, like, the curly hair and the hats and shit?
	So we saw a bunch of them there, and I was like, these guys are dicks.
	Because they were like...
	You know, just very rude and would, like, push you aside and wouldn't, like, make eye contact, wouldn't smile.
	And I just, I was like, okay, these guys are, like, freaks.
	And then me and my ex-boyfriend, we had gone on a trip to New York City and we had, like, I initiated the game.
	I guess I was a little JQ'd before I even knew it.
	And I was like, let's do a game where we count the Jew and we get, you know, I spotted more Jews than you or something like that.
	That was as much as I knew about Jews up until now.
	Of course, he was like horrified at the idea because he's European and they've really gotten browbeaten with it.
	But yeah, I think that was the only time, like, till this day, there's no Jews around here, thankfully.
	Yeah, I'm fortunate I'm not living in a super...
	Well, if you live in a city, you're already around them.
	They flock to these epicenters.
	So I'm pretty rural and they're not really around me.
	But one thing on the note of these Hasidic Jews, they are.
	They're very isolated.
	They're repulsed by the rest of society.
	They don't want to be anywhere around you.
	And now some people can go, oh, well, that's their culture.
	That's what a lot of people will say.
	But to draw a really good example...
	Look at the Amish.
	I don't know if you've ever been around Amish communities.
	They're friendly.
	They're welcoming.
	They certainly realize you as an other.
	Like, oh, it's a city folk.
	He's not wearing our kind of stuff.
	But they're not rude and uninviting.
	They're actually the opposite.
	They're very polite.
	They're curious to hear about your experiences.
	And they're very honest.
	They're like, look, that's not my thing.
	And I'm not going to ever condone that or be a part of it.
	But it's nice to hear.
	It's nice to see you and things like that.
	It just goes to show you that, again, there is such a genetic aspect to this, where it is in their genes to view the world as others.
	And when you learn about their Talmud and what they think about us, you know, we're all cattle or slaves or whatever.
	That's really heavily enforced.
	So, yeah, it's really interesting that you say that, because I think a lot of people would overlook how important that is, that just that little...
	Hasidic community is the way that they are.
	Because it definitely expands outside of the Hasidic community as we can see.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, for sure.
	And, you know, you get these comments under anything Jewish-related and they're like, you guys are just jealous.
	You're just jealous of our success.
	And, again, I came into that space and I was like, well, maybe they're just more a high IQ and that's why they get to these jobs.
	And then I was like, no, damn it.
	They're just...
	Promoting each other.
	It's like where some people I know work in certain jobs and it's like black dominated.
	So it's impossible to get another white co-worker in there because they just hire other blacks.
	And it's the same thing.
	It's not like the blacks are more qualified than the white candidates, but it's a black person hiring, you know, so you're...
	It's just going to be nothing but black.
	So that's why they're ahead.
	They're not smarter than us.
	We're not jealous of you.
	You're just promoting your own.
	It's just nepotism.
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	And again, they're so good at the browbeating.
	They do this time and time again where they get to these positions of power.
	A perfect example is Mayorkas, the head of...
	Department of Homeland Security, DHS, right?
	Mayorkas.
	He's a Cuban Jew.
	He wasn't even born in the United States, and he now controls our border and our homeland security.
	How does that make sense, right?
	He's not just more qualified than somebody or more intelligent.
	He's actually less qualified than every person that was born here.
	It doesn't even make sense.
	So they'll do this as a...
	Well, I think they also do it because they know it gets you angry.
	That is infuriating when these fucking weird goblins are like, oh, I'm just better than you.
	I'm more intelligent.
	You're jealous.
	That's very aggravating.
	Sure, I'm jealous.
	Sure, Shmuley.
	I really wish I was you.
	Yeah, Shmuley's a great example.
	He has that exact same ego complex.
	Oh, you just wish you were Jewish.
	You wish you were.
	They really do like doing that.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's an interesting aspect, but you're right.
	And that's another common place that a lot of our people are stuck in is thinking, oh, maybe they're just really smart.
	Maybe they're just really driven.
	We actually used to have, I don't know if you know this, Columbia University is where a lot of these Jews come out of.
	That's where the whole critical race theory comes from, all these things.
	And we used to have a quota.
	There was a max line of Jews that were allowed in that university in the United States.
	We used to bar them off from having too many because they would all conglomerate to the same spot and use nepotism and try to take it over.
	You couldn't come here anymore.
	And then the Jews started migrating to other universities in Brooklyn and whatnot.
	And then eventually, through their political subversion, they were able to get that taken out.
	So now Columbia University, it's just riddled with Jews.
	All of the major book publishing companies in the United States are founded by Jews that came from Columbia University.
	Simon& Schuster, which is one of the biggest publishers.
	The Penguin Books, same thing.
	They permeate all of these different layers.
	And again, it's nepotism.
	Say I'm a Jew and I own Simon& Schuster and I decide what books are published underneath me.
	Well, how could a white person ever have a popular book that actually advocates for white people or something that we like?
	They'll obviously, you know, shut that out and not allow it.
	I mean, especially with kids' books.
	Because, like, you know, I guess I didn't really shop for kids' books before, like, a couple years ago.
	But now I'm like, it's impossible to find a children's book that doesn't have either an interracial couple or it's almost all black.
	Or some of this bullshit.
	And, you know, I guess they're just trying to get them young, right?
	And in the school system, they promote all this stuff.
	And it's like, I don't know how you break out of this mold aside from, like, basically doing what the Amish do and completely get out of the system and retrain the next generation that, no, like, you're good.
	You should be proud of who you are.
	You know, they are.
	So in order to be competitive, you have to have the same edge.
	You've got to...
	Be confident in who you are and be proud of who you are and remember that this is your country and foreigners shouldn't be running it.
	That's one of my biggest beefs with Elon.
	I'm like, why are you in government?
	Nobody voted for you.
	And you're just like Trump's right-hand man now living right next to him.
	You're not even from here, which is obvious.
	It's not shocking why he thinks Americans are just lazy and we don't even...
	Earn these jobs.
	Meanwhile, Americans are way more qualified than these Indians they're bringing in.
	But yeah, it's a whole problem.
	Yeah, well, for him, it's cheap labor, right?
	But you make an important point about the system itself.
	It's so hard to break yourself out of it, especially, say you're in your 30s and you're a lawyer and then you find out about the Jewish problem.
	How do you break yourself out of that?
	How do you detach yourself from that?
	And I'll tell you, I've had quite a few recently.
	People that are in their 40s and 50s that call me up and they're like, dude, I'm a police officer.
	I'm this.
	I'm that.
	I just found out about this Jew stuff.
	I watch your show.
	What the hell do I do?
	They're so involved in the system, they don't know how to break away from it.
	It's good and it's bad.
	It's bad because it sucks that they're in this circumstance, but it's good to see that people are ready.
	They're looking for the solution.
	And you're right.
	I think we have to, in some ways, mimic the Amish.
	Obviously, we still need to use things like technology, but we just need it to be ours.
	We made it.
	It's not made by them.
	We're not using Jewish AI that's going to tell you that white people are evil and every other group is going to say they're great.
	We need to have that kind of parallel breakaway that's actually controlled by us.
	But aside from the Amish idea of super isolation, we don't want isolation.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Because then it's all over.
	Right, right.
	We have to be global to an extent, right?
	As much as I despise globalism and the idea of this kind of one-world entity or one-world political entity, white people collectively, we have to come to that realization that we are being exterminated.
	This is a global issue for us.
	All of our countries are experiencing this.
	There's nowhere we can just go and run.
	So we do need to be collective in that sense with all of our people.
	We can't have these menial, we'll call them European disputes, where it's like, oh, I'm German, you're Polish, you know, fuck you, I don't want to be friends with you.
	We have to be welcoming to each other at this point.
	Right.
	Well, and that's, you know, I think that going into the accusation thing, I've...
	Been thinking about it more lately.
	I'm like, these aren't just people that believe this.
	They have a reason why they want to take certain people down.
	Obviously, there's the well-intentioned ones, but I think there's a lot of that going on where you have to...
	It's like the boy who cried wolf.
	If you're doing that all the time, nobody's going to believe you, and it kills the credibility of everything.
	What you're saying, what Ian's saying, what I'm saying, it kills that credibility because they're like, okay, these people are nuts.
	Everybody's, they call everybody a Jew, and it's, I mean, that could be subvergent.
	Those could be, you know, agents working for whoever, doing that on purpose to try to either make a joke out of, I guess, the JQ or whatever, and to take down people, dissident voices, you know?
	So I'm like, alright, well, if you're trying to take us down so bad, that must mean we have some power, right?
	So...
	You just gotta ignore that.
	So after my little crash out, I will be ignoring that from now on.
	I will be ignoring all you agents, all you Mossad agents out there.
	And just moving forward.
	But yeah, it's a problem.
	I wish we could get away from these big companies, the big tech.
	I wish we didn't have to be reliant on them.
	Because you will tone down your message.
	You will not say this and not say that because you don't want to get banned.
	Because it's like, why...
	Why take away your voice?
	But if people could, like, start making alternative platforms, you know, that'd be good.
	But then, you know, you see, like, Telegram, they try to, the what's Drov guy who got, who's getting harassed by the government right now.
	So it's probably next to impossible to actually create a truly independent system separate from those people.
	Yeah, they're doing their best to crack down on those things.
	And there is a pretty good chance that...
	A lot of people that are attacking you or me or somebody else that's present with baseless claims, there is always a good chance that these people could actually just be Jews, right?
	Just because they have an account that has an Aryan statue as the profile picture, it doesn't mean that they're actually not Jewish, right?
	A lot of anonymous accounts.
	And if you think from the perspective, if you were in the shoes of the Jews...
	What would you do?
	Obviously, you would want to send agents to go do that, discredit anybody by sowing all of this discord and this confusion, right?
	Because the worst thing that you could be called right now is a Jew, right?
	If you're in this movement and someone's like, oh, that guy's Jewish, and everybody gets that general consensus that you're a Jew, well, then now you lose your credibility, and then that kind of puts us backwards.
	You're very right about that.
	It's no different than the Fed jacketing that people used to talk about years ago, which seemed to die down a lot, actually.
	Now it's just Jew jacketing.
	Everybody's just like, he's a Jew, that's a Jew, this guy's a Jew.
	Yeah, they're all Jews.
	It's a tough thing because it is important that if someone is Jewish, you do want to point it out.
	If Laura Loomer comes into space and she's screaming about her politics and all this stuff, it's very important to point out and say, hey, by the way, she is Jewish.
	It changes how you view what she's doing.
	If you look at her trying to control the conversation or take control over things.
	I was in a space not long ago.
	Nick Fuentes was in there and Laura Loomer was behind him.
	And every time this guy would make a point, like a really valid point about American politics or what's happening in our society, she would have to jump on it after the second he was done talking.
	And now she goes, oh yeah, and also think about what they're doing over in Iran.
	And it's always to like...
	Divert your attention away from Israel and what Jews are doing and back over to somewhere else.
	Look at the brown people, Goy.
	That's always the thing that they're trying to do.
	So there is a level of importance to pointing out that somebody is Jewish.
	We just want to be careful and not be wrong about that.
	Right.
	No, that's true, though.
	And I get that you have to be skeptical of people because at this point it's...
	You don't really know.
	Anybody could be.
	And that's the point.
	I think that was even in that Heritage Foundation article.
	It was like, send in dissidents, send in people to kind of disrupt.
	Kill that trust, right?
	And they've done a remarkable job of killing the trust, where now nobody can trust each other.
	And thus, nobody can collectivize and actually do anything about it because you're too busy putting out fires and, oh, we can't really trust him and we can't really trust what he says.
	So it's actually a really good tactic, to be honest, and they're doing a great job.
	Yeah, well, they're masters at sowing discord in between groups, right?
	That's the whole point of the racial conflict game that they play.
	It's why they try to empower black people.
	The best part is when you look at all these...
	Black organizations in the United States that have been advocating for Black people.
	They were almost all founded or co-opted by Jews in every circumstance.
	NAACP was founded by a rabbi.
	Black Lives Matter was a half-Jew, half-Black woman.
	Even the Black Panthers, which was the most radical Black group, they worked with Jews who were like...
	Through a black lens, most black people think Jews are white.
	So they're working with quote-unquote white people as black men.
	It's like, what are you doing?
	They've never actually had an advocacy group for themselves.
	I don't think they even realize that, though.
	Right, and then we get the heat.
	They rile them up.
	They talk about the white man.
	Even these rappers want to bitch.
	And I'm like, your problem is with Jews.
	They're the ones that brought you over here day one.
	They're the ones that continue to cause all this trouble.
	And now we get the heat.
	So it's really smart.
	Get a fight going.
	You get out of there and let us take the heat.
	The bystanders.
	We catch all the shrapnel in the stray hands.
	So one thing I'm curious on the Jewish aspect again.
	How did your friends and family take this?
	Do you talk to them about it?
	Are they awakening to this problem at all?
	Or are they adverse to you for this?
	I would say I pretty much J-pilled pretty much my whole family at this point.
	Like, you know, my parents, they didn't really know about all this stuff either.
	And now they're like...
	I'm like, if anyone had any doubts, please bug the house.
	Because the conversations that I will have with family members now is very anti-Semitic.
	But yeah, I would say it went pretty well.
	I have a very small circle.
	I'm not like...
	I don't really like...
	Have a ton of friends.
	I'm kind of picky.
	I don't really like people, to be honest.
	Not a lot of people.
	Most people are kind of annoying, to be honest.
	But, yeah, I would say they're pretty receptive to it.
	Especially when they actually see, like, what's going on from the back end.
	And then I'm like, wow, have you read this?
	Have you seen that?
	And can you believe that person is Jewish?
	And this and that.
	And then they're like, oh wow, oh my gosh, right?
	And since it's coming for me, it's more credible than if it was something they found online.
	Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
	And I think also because you are female, it's less...
	It's easy to believe that you're just hate-driven or psychotic.
	It comes across as this more friendly, like, hey, I'm concerned about this.
	When a guy is concerned about something, a lot of times people just write it off.
	You're like, oh, fuck you.
	You're crazy.
	I've had wins and losses in my family.
	Some of them are really adverse, and they're like, no, no, I'm going to go watch Charlie Kirk right now.
	Leave me alone.
	And then I have other family members.
	I'll never forget my grandmother.
	She's awesome.
	I got into this with her a bit.
	She was brainwashed.
	Hitler's evil and all this goofiness.
	I'll never forget the first day she was watching television with my grandfather.
	They watched Charlie Kirk and all that shit.
	She hates it now.
	She hates watching it.
	Sometimes she just has to because my grandfather's watching it.
	I'll never forget.
	I walked in the living room the one time and she says, They were talking about Israel and how the Jewish people are so persecuted in America, and she goes, then why the fuck don't you all just go back to Israel, you rats or something like that?
	Oh my god, I was laughing so hard.
	I was like, yeah, she's finally, she's there, she's there, it's awesome.
	No, that's the good thing, is once you can finally get that through people's skull, then it's there.
	And now I get, because another thing that I never got was I was like, okay, some people make their whole timeline about Jews.
	And then once you realize, then you're like, well, I basically can't talk about anything without talking about them.
	Because if I'm wanting to talk about vaccines, they're behind that.
	If I'm wanting to talk about this and that and the other, they're behind that.
	So you almost have to just talk about them because they're the cause of all the problems.
	Yeah, that's the hardest part.
	You actually can't not speak on this issue.
	They love to respond to that and say, you're obsessed with us!
	It's all you talk about, right?
	They love it.
	You're right.
	It's every single thing that you look at.
	Transgenderism.
	All of the race riots.
	Even the whole Kyle Rittenhouse situation.
	Think about that.
	He's at a Black Lives Matter rally.
	Okay.
	He gets chased down by a mob of people.
	You would think it would be violent blacks chasing this guy down.
	He shoots people in self-defense.
	The three people he shoots at a Black Lives Matter rally are all Jews.
	How does that happen?
	What are the odds of going to a Black Lives Matter rally that's all supposed to be black people, you know, fending for themselves?
	And you get attacked.
	And the people that are attacking you and instigating the riot are three Jews.
	But that'll never be told.
	You'll just think it's white people.
	I was talking to him not too long ago, and I didn't know this, because the story you hear is that they were coming after him, and he just shot into the crowd.
	That's what I assumed, because that's kind of the story they put out there.
	But he was like, no, I was on the ground, like, down, and the guy was beating me over the head with a skateboard.
	He's got, like, permanent brain damage from that.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	I had no idea.
	Like, he's gotta be on all of this and that and the other because he's got permanent brain damage.
	So the story they even twisted was so far from what the actual truth was.
	It was like, he's down, like, basically about to be killed by this Jew.
	And then he finally is just, like, randomly shooting and happens to...
	Happens to him.
	Just so happens.
	Just so happens, right?
	What a coincidence.
	Like always, right?
	I thought that was hilarious when I first learned that because it's just so mind-boggling, right?
	Yeah, I had no idea until now.
	I'm not surprised, though.
	It's insane.
	It's like raiding like a...
	A Mexican opium drug lab, right?
	And the only people that you arrest are Jews.
	It's like, oh, well, what the hell?
	I know.
	Which also wouldn't be surprising either, to be honest.
	No, no.
	No, I know all that.
	All, like, in Mexico right now, it's like, what's going on?
	They've been basically taken over, too.
	Like, the Jewish-Mexican thing, and then that whole bust with the Jews in, where was that?
	Brazil, South America somewhere?
	With all those Jews and the little kids and stuff?
	It's just...
	I don't know how people can't, like, I mean, I guess I do know because it's not on the peripheral.
	You know, unless you're in this sphere, unless you're in the right kind of Twitter genre, you're not even going to be presented with this information.
	Like, you're simply not going to hear about it.
	Yeah, you're right.
	You know, and that is an interesting one with Mexico.
	Again, when we have the Jew controlling our border, Mayorkas, and then now you've got Scheinbaum down in Mexico controlling their border.
	I mean, is that not a recipe for disaster?
	Two Jews controlling both sides of the border?
	It's like, of course we're fucked.
	And I doubt that...
	This is the problem.
	I doubt that when Trump gets in, he changes much.
	He's going to allow the same Jews.
	He's got all these Jewish picks.
	And he had Jews in his first cabinet.
	I mean, like Kushner, right?
	I think it's his stepson or whatever.
	We need non-Jewish representation.
	I don't know if you've seen this Polish guy that's making the rounds.
	I can't say his name because I can't say Polish, but it's like Grieger, something like that.
	He's running for president in Poland right now.
	Oh, okay.
	No, I haven't heard of that.
	He's the one that did the...
	He blew out the menorah with a fire extinguisher.
	Oh, okay.
	So he's running for president now over in Poland, and he's got some speeches lately where he's talking about how Jews need to stop having control over our nations and how these people are really problematic.
	The one problem, and this is another piece of cognitive dissonance that a lot of people get stuck on, is I saw a clip of him just recently where he said, Zionism is Nazism.
	This is...
	This is a subversion that is so exhausting.
	You see a lot of the left-wing pro-Palestine people that are mad at Jews for destroying Palestine.
	They do the same thing.
	They equate Netanyahu to Hitler and all this nonsense.
	Which, again, further discredits the only movement that has ever been vehemently against Jews teaching us why they are a problem and teaching us how to fix that problem.
	Right.
	I mean, maybe it's just doing that to make it go down easier to pill to swallow or something.
	I don't know.
	But I'm kind of sick of giving these people the benefit of the doubt, to be honest, because I did that with Trump for so long.
	And I was like, well, maybe it's just doing this.
	Maybe it's just a tactic.
	And then at some point, you just got to be like, nah, this is controlled opposition, or he's on their side, or he's one of them.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And that's kind of, I think, our duty moving into...
	This next election cycle is we need to be putting a lot of pressure on the conservative media, the conservative apparatus, all these people that are supposedly holding up traditional conservative values.
	We should be pressuring them a lot harder and saying, look, that rhetoric is terrible.
	You need to stop that rhetoric.
	The one group that does a good job on this is Groyper's.
	Candace Owens, when she was doing the whole...
	It's the Frankists, right?
	They started attacking her, and they're like, dude, stop.
	It's Jews.
	It's just Jews.
	You don't have to do the obfuscations and the little...
	Because that's, like you said earlier, that's why we're here, is being scared to say it outright the way that it is.
	So I think that's our duty, is to put more pressure on these people, not give them the benefit of the doubt.
	Because even if they are...
	They're just trying to be more appealing to the average person.
	No.
	The average person needs to be appealed by the right things now.
	We need to stop babying them, essentially.
	Yeah.
	No, that's true.
	But I guess the good thing is people want to make money.
	And these mainstream conservative outlets...
	I think Candace Owens actually has more subscribers now than The Daily Wire does.
	I saw a post about that.
	She exceeded that or something like that.
	I feel like you're going to start seeing the real decline of these big conservative think tanks, I guess.
	That, the Blaze, PragerU.
	I really fell out.
	I started falling out with Big Con Inc.
	Whenever that quote came out with Dennis Prager, and he was basically like, well, you know, AI generated fake child porn.
	Maybe that could be useful to help.
	Curb those desires.
	It was something.
	It was like some kind of defense of like child porn as long as it's like AI generated or something like that.
	And I remember being like, what the fuck?
	How can you?
	You're like a conservative.
	And then I kind of, I think it registered in the back of my head that he was Jewish too.
	But again, at the time I was like, okay, that's even more weird.
	Like, aren't you supposed to be like a Christian basically?
	Because again, the way they paint Judaism is like, you think it's kind of like Christianity.
	Right?
	Except for the fact that they don't believe Jesus is the Savior.
	You have no idea how, like, radical it is.
	I mean, they actually think of us worse than even Muslims think of us, of Christians.
	But, yeah, I think as you see the decline of these media companies, they're going to have to face the crossroads of, this is the way the public sentiment is going.
	This is where the money is.
	People don't want to hear about this and that.
	They want to hear about the real truth.
	You know, as people wake up, the media companies are going to have to realize, All right.
	We either get on the bandwagon, which would actually probably be worse since they are Jewish-owned.
	It would just turn into something subversive.
	At least right now, we can clearly see they're the opposition.
	But, you know, a lot of these movements are led by women, too, who are followers.
	You know, if the general strain is going in this direction, if people are waking up, if most of the men in their life are, like, talking about the Jewish problem and stuff, I think it could start to turn the narrative...
	In our favor.
	Now, if that's going to muddy the waters and actually make it worse than more of the purest fringe groups, then that's probably a bad thing.
	But, you know, I think as more people wake up, it's going to start shifting that direction.
	Because they're already starting to go out of business.
	Who listens to Daily Wire anymore?
	Especially after they got rid of Candace and now Brett Cooper.
	People are pretty much about to fall out with him.
	So I think that's the...
	The death of Big Con, Inc.
	And so now, whether they decide to join, or whether more fringe outlets like us and you and Stu Peters, if that becomes more the mainstream alternative media, then that'd be a good thing.
	But that seems to be the way that the winds are blowing, so we'll see how they react to that.
	Yeah, I think to an extent we are seeing, right, you see Mark Zuckerberg going on stage and saying, I'm going to stop the censorship.
	We're going to cut back on that.
	There was a video of him like...
	I hate his guts, dude.
	He's such a fucking dork.
	He's the definition of a Jew, really.
	He's trying so hard to now seem like, I'm an average American.
	I'm just like you guys.
	I'm a patriot.
	We gotta fix this stuff.
	I'm pro-Trump.
	It's all to try to re-legitimize him and his platform after all these years of fucking around with us and causing all the problems.
	Now that they're seeing people are starting to...
	To filter away and they're going to the real truth.
	Now it's like, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Here's cupcakes, guys.
	Come back.
	Come back, right?
	So hopefully people don't fall for these things.
	I know a lot of times they do because there's a comfort factor.
	It's, oh, I've been on Facebook for years.
	It's easier, right?
	People need to start kind of buckling down, going onto these more fringe platforms, if you want to call them that, or decentralized platforms that aren't a part of the system.
	Because if we don't...
	Like you said, they're going to co-opt these messages.
	You're going to see even Jewish-owned platforms starting to talk about the Jewish question, but yet again, frameworking it, how we're allowed to talk about it.
	Well, wait a minute.
	No, it's just a religious problem, right?
	It's just about this specific piece, and then that way people will start countersignaling you, because this happens a lot, right?
	For instance, I am fervently National Socialist.
	I truly believe that that is the...
	Best solution to this problem.
	It's laid out so incredibly well for us.
	We have a blueprint on how to fix this problem.
	And it's the hardest one for people to get over.
	Even people that are awake to Jews, then they get into all these weird psychological traps of, wait, Hitler was Jewish, or his mom was Jewish, or he was a Rothschild agent.
	And these are all these, again, Jewish fomented traps to get you to not legitimize a serious problem.
	So they create that framework as to what you're allowed to discuss.
	And they will do that if we don't start making our platforms become what is the mainstream, right?
	Like, that should be what's mainstream.
	But then again, the problem with it becoming mainstream is then it can get watered down and diluted.
	And like you said, they redirect or make it, you know, to where the eye's not on the ball anymore.
	So maybe it's actually good that we're still fringe because then it can stay relatively pure, right?
	So, I mean, I guess my question is, like, how do you fix it?
	Because they're not, like you said earlier, they're not going to let a politician ever become successful if they're not blackmailable, if they don't have some kind of weird kink that makes them, you know, vulnerable to a blackmail scam or something like that.
	So I don't really know how you even fix the problem.
	Obviously, you can't vote your way into politics.
	You can't get your candidate in.
	You know, in a revolution, that's never going to happen.
	People didn't even refuse to wear a mask.
	They're never going to stand up and overthrow a government.
	So I really, at this point, I'm like, I don't know what you're supposed to do.
	It's like, is it just going to have to crash and burn and we try to rebuild and that never goes well?
	Yeah, so...
	We slightly discussed this before in a space a while back.
	You were kind of adverse, and I think you're going to slowly work in the direction.
	I really do.
	I tell you why.
	You guys need a rebrand, okay?
	Socialism, that word is so good.
	That's what scares people off.
	I hear socialism when I'm like, whoa, I'm out, you know?
	So I think it's the rebrand that might need to take place.
	You are right.
	You are right.
	There's a lack of understanding on the nuances of the word, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, I guess the problem is because Jews co-opted the word socialism.
	Like, socialism, before Jews had gotten their hands on it, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
	It just means it's being social towards society.
	Things that are good for the social well-being, right?
	But then Jews take it...
	It's the same as liberalism.
	Fifty years ago, liberalism wasn't a bad thing.
	Then Jews co-opted it.
	Now it's repulsive.
	It's completely disgusting.
	So I guess you are right to some degree on that.
	The way I see it, the only way that you're, again, you're not going to be able to go through the system itself.
	And this is the problem with third-party politics.
	A lot of times people want to actually, the system has Republicans and Democrats, and then they have like the Green Party or the Libertarian Party.
	And people go, oh, well, those big ones are corrupt, so I want to join the Libertarian Party, and I want to kind of go that route, win presidency, and then we can fix things.
	What people don't realize is, well, that party is also part of the system.
	A lot of Jews are libertarians.
	A lot of Jews write the libertarian literature, which puts you into this individualistic mindset.
	It's not community-driven.
	It's the opposite of where we need to go.
	So what has to happen, rather than build a party in the system, you have to build a party outside of the system.
	This is what was done in Germany.
	Hitler wakes up all of these people on mass scale.
	Not waking them up to the system, to a certain party, but waking them up to a very specific message, a very specific movement.
	And then that movement attaches itself to the system only for the purpose of winning over the populace in the system.
	And now it has control of the system, right?
	So it's a process where you can't go through it.
	You have to start outside of it and then combat it from within it, right?
	Hard to explain, but I don't know if that gives credence what I'm going to say.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	I mean, and that's definitely the direction we need to go because there's obviously...
	And the third party, it just gives people the illusion of having more options.
	Like, you don't have option.
	You're voting for the same thing at the end of the day, no matter who you vote for.
	Right, because a lot of the policies that we want in play right now, the people that are in power, even if they were, let's just say Trump was like, our dude, the guys, it's...
	Eight-dimensional chess, and he's our guy, right?
	He can't pass the things that we would want passed, even if he was in agreeance.
	And he said, in his mind, he didn't want any immigration at all.
	It wasn't just about illegal.
	He really didn't want any immigration.
	He couldn't do it because he's got to go through Congress.
	He's got to go through all these fucking Jews in the system.
	One of the best examples is when he was in office in the 2016 period.
	And he's trying to get the wall built.
	He's talking wall, wall, wall, wall, wall.
	And he's sitting there with Chuck Schumer, who's Jewish, and Nancy Pelosi, who's a self-proclaimed Shabbos Goy.
	And he's sitting there, and he's like, look, we need to get this wall done.
	This has to be done.
	I'm going to build this wall.
	And they're both sitting there like, no, we're not going to do it.
	We're not going to let our side of Congress vote for it.
	It's not happening.
	No, we're not doing it.
	And he can argue until his face is red, but if you don't have majority vote...
	And you can't do it.
	And if you don't own AIPAC, which is paying off these politicians, and you don't have the blackmail on all these people, then you'll never get the majority vote.
	They'll always have that majority.
	So it just, like we say, it can't go through the system.
	It's not possible.
	They won't allow it.
	Yeah.
	So you just basically build up your own thing on the side and then gobble up the system?
	Essentially, yeah.
	So it has to be grassroots, right?
	Really good example is at the local level.
	When we're talking like your local county, your local county could easily be changed.
	There's not like the ADL isn't looking at a rural county in Pennsylvania or Alabama and saying like, oh, how do we control this area?
	So that's how you start.
	You know, you get control of the county and then you get control of the county over and then you get control of the state.
	And then you get control of a region, right?
	And you slowly kind of work yourself to that federal level because the federal is like, that's the obstacle that they're gatekeeping the federal.
	They don't want us to have any control over that for obvious reasons.
	But these little local level things, they're completely open for, I mean, like anybody can go run on a local seat and make waves.
	So it's possible, but it's going to be...
	It's a long process.
	It has to be extremely organized.
	And the one thing that we have that is a shitload harder than what Germany had is Germany is the size of Texas.
	We have this huge landmass which makes a massive difference.
	So essentially it's a matter of each state having people that pull together in their state.
	Picking a county.
	And you want those things to work in the same time.
	You want a group of people in your state to be getting a local control in that state.
	I want a group of people in my state to be doing the same.
	And it slowly builds in each state at the same time until it all kind of fuses together.
	Because that's another problem is our movements are all over the place.
	You've got Groypers.
	You've got Patriot Front.
	You've got White Lives Matter.
	All these different organizations doing different things.
	Eventually, there's going to have to be a fusing and a combining of message and narrative.
	Right.
	Well, I think people are kind of primed for that.
	And like myself, I'm kind of somewhat a litmus test for your average person.
	Obviously, I'm more far right than most people.
	But at the same time, I think a lot of people gave this election their last shot.
	They're like...
	We want to get Trump in there, you know, and this is their last hope.
	So if he betrays everybody, which I think at this point he doesn't even care that he's openly betraying people, like with the H-1B visa, there's a reason why that was such a scandal.
	And, you know, even MAGA itself is like broken up now into several different parts.
	So I think, you know, as people become more disillusioned and finally realize, okay, we finally got our guy in.
	We beat the system.
	It was too big to rig.
	We got our guy in.
	And we're still in the same spot that we were before.
	And I think the mask is going to come off.
	I mean, the fact that they're showing their true colors this close and he's not even technically in office yet.
	Well, I guess he is.
	But he hasn't, you know, he's not been inaugurated yet.
	That's crazy.
	And I think since he knows this is his last shot, the mask's just going to come off.
	And they're going to give us little bones like that Riley Gaines, or not Riley Gaines, Lake and Riley Act, where they're like, we'll deport violent illegals and throw us a little bone to make us feel like we're winning, just to keep us happy and believing in our system so we keep voting.
	But hopefully, I mean, at this point, I honestly hope the mask comes off so people do realize, oh shit.
	It's all BS. You know, voting doesn't work.
	And then they will turn to the more grassroots stuff.
	They will start turning more to their community because they'll be like, the federal government's out to get us.
	So we have to, you know, we got to hole up with our own people and we got to figure out, you know, something to do to kind of counteract what's actually going on.
	So hopefully there'll be a mass disillusionment with, you know, the federal government and the voting system and the two-party system, which is BS. Yeah, I sure hope so.
	Because that is a worry, is that Trump getting in, the normies will be lulled back to sleep.
	Right.
	It appeases us.
	We're Republican again.
	I don't mind if all of my neighbors are black, as long as they're not criminals.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	That's great.
	I mean, people's standards are just so low at this point.
	I know.
	But you're right.
	They're really like a fat chick at this point.
	They'll take anything.
	We need a...
	We need to capitalize on all of the mistakes that this party is going to end up making, all of the failed promises, all of the negative attributes to get as much distrust in this system as possible.
	We need as many people as possible to realize that this isn't the way.
	They're never going to advocate for you.
	You're never going to see Trump get up on stage and say, I want America to be a majority white country, white people founded this country.
	And they care more about it than anybody else.
	You'll never see that.
	You know, I don't know if you know, Trump was, he was running back in like 2000 as a Democrat.
	And his rhetoric, he was running against Pat Buchanan.
	And he was literally saying in a speech, Pat Buchanan, he's anti-gay.
	He's anti-black.
	He's anti-Semitic.
	The guy is a Nazi.
	He's like, a vote for him is a crazy vote.
	Like that was his rhetoric back in his, he's always going to go with whatever makes him popular at the time.
	Right.
	You're right.
	And I think our best bet is to create as much of that disillusionment as we can in order to get those people to realize who really cares about them, who's advocating for them correctly.
	Right.
	Well, and I think right now, too, I think people in MAGA are going to start feeling a little bit safer because, you know, like I was saying with Rittenhouse and them jumping all over him when he wasn't thrilled with Trump and was like, Trump's not great for the Second Amendment, so I'm going to write in Ron Paul.
	And all MAGA came after him and attacked him like crazy.
	So I think a lot of people withheld their criticisms of Trump, withheld their criticisms of his picks and stuff like that.
	Simply because they don't want to get kicked out of the club.
	They don't want people to come for them.
	But now that there has been this rift within MAGA, which I think they wanted, they wanted to break this nationalist kind of movement.
	Because even though Trump's not a nationalist, I think some of the MAGA movement was somewhat nationalist, populist, things like that.
	But this rift could actually be a good thing because now people will be more...
	More open to something that's not just pro-Trump because they're not as afraid of having the whole Trump train jump on them.
	You know, because people are followers.
	They want to be in the club.
	They want to be accepted and liked and whatever.
	So they're going to refrain from saying those things.
	But now that this rift has happened, I think a lot of that pressure is kind of off and people can now figure out of all the pieces smashed on the floor where they want to go.
	Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
	One other thing I wanted to ask you, we got maybe 20 or so minutes left on the show.
	I wanted to ask you, are you in a lot of Twitter spaces, like normie Twitter spaces?
	Because I know in the beginning I saw you in a couple podcasts and spaces.
	Do you still get invited to things like that?
	Yeah, podcasts and spaces.
	To be honest, I hate going into spaces.
	I'm so bored.
	The last time I... Me and my friend, he wanted to host a space and he was like, can you host it?
	And I was like, okay.
	I was basically asleep on the couch the whole time.
	So I have a very short attention span.
	I don't know how some people can be on spaces for hours.
	So I kind of turn those down a lot.
	But yeah, I've been getting, as I've kind of been more established, I'm not just the viral person.
	I'm somewhat established a little bit in the conversation.
	Yeah, it's been slowly coming back again.
	But definitely no mainstream conservatives.
	They don't want to touch me with a timbre pole.
	Well, of course.
	Not surprising at all.
	I actually...
	I was going to do a show with a woman who's on the Steve Bannon War Room to talk about Nietzsche.
	The blonde hair girl?
	No.
	I don't remember her name.
	This was a while back.
	She has like...
	Dirty blonde hair.
	It's pretty dark.
	It's basically brown hair.
	Not the person I was thinking of.
	And I was going to go on her show and we were going to talk about Nietzsche and I was going to use it as a, you know, obviously I'm always going to be pushing the Jewish problem into my rhetoric somewhere.
	So I was going to talk about Nietzsche and go into the Antichrist book where he basically talks about Jews and how problematic they've been historically.
	Unfortunately, I guess she must have looked at my content after a while because we had it all scheduled and planned out and she never got back to me.
	They're really good at that.
	I had the same experience with Jared Taylor.
	He's all good on the whole racial question, but man, he will not talk about Jews.
	Isn't he married to a Jew?
	I've heard that.
	I don't know if that's actually true or not.
	I'm very hesitant to believe any of these things anymore.
	Like, apparently one of the things that were being said about you is that you're married to a Chinese woman, which I was like, I don't know.
	That's a good one that was fomented a while back.
	Yeah, someone made an accusation and then they said that...
	Sorry if you hear my dog in the background.
	Oh, he's fine.
	Hey.
	Someone made that accusation and then they brazenly claimed that there was a...
	Chinese person walking in the background of my webcam, which is hilarious because I never have more than a bookshelf in my back.
	No one has ever walked behind my camera.
	Ever.
	It took off.
	I don't know.
	A lot of people are saying it.
	But no, my wife, she's Polish.
	She's not Chinese or Asian or whatever the hell they were saying.
	That was the same time they were calling me Jewish, too, for joining the Stu Peters Network.
	They said I was taking Jew money now, which is hilarious because I've never been on a payroll or working under anybody.
	People will always have their doubts.
	But, yes, I mean, it's so important that we try to break these false accusations down.
	You know, we have to be as honest and open as we can because we need to know who's valid and who's not.
	You know, like and you're right.
	I have a hard time believing a lot of things when I hear it.
	Like someone said about Jared Taylor's wife to me, And if I don't see deep proof of it, I'm just not going to believe it.
	I can't.
	Everything has to be very well fleshed out.
	Even in my chat right now, because everybody does this one, people go, oh, well, Stu Peters, his mother's name is Mikkelberg.
	Mikkelberg is not a Jewish name.
	It's not a Jewish name.
	People see Berg at the end of something, and they go, oh, it's a Jew.
	It's a Jew.
	It's like...
	I just did a book analysis of Myth of the 20th Century.
	It's by Alfred Rosenberg.
	He was a national socialist.
	He was German.
	And his whole book was about racialism and how throughout history, we need to look at things through a racial lens.
	So it's super important.
	People see the little thing and they instantly want to jump on it.
	We have to be really careful on these things because if we start discrediting important voices...
	We're never going to be able to get anywhere.
	We won't be able to make progress if the people that are making serious change, you just assume that they're Jewish.
	Well, there's always the dumbasses that just jump onto everything, but then you've got to think, okay, now there's the subversive ones that are doing this on purpose.
	They're trying to set these little fires here and there so they keep you like a dog chasing its tail and you can never actually get to the meat of what you're wanting to talk about because you're trying to dispel this rumor and dispel that rumor and whatever.
	Yeah, it's actually a pretty smart tactic, but I guess ignoring it's probably just the best thing.
	Yeah, to an extent.
	I do agree.
	You certainly don't want to show them that you're bothered by it.
	That's when they will tackle onto it, right?
	I've done a great job at not showing that I'm bothered by it.
	Yeah, they'll definitely jump on even harder when you do that.
	You know, that's where you have to just let your rhetoric speak for yourself.
	And the last piece I'll say on your Jewish accusations is your rhetoric.
	You know, like, I'm very careful when someone is Jewish, you can tell by their rhetoric, right?
	Like, let's just say you were Jewish and you were subverting this movement.
	Well, that's exactly it, right?
	You would have to be subverting.
	And I've been watching your posts.
	Nothing you say is subversive.
	You're not like, oh, wait, guys, we really should consider Trump.
	Or, oh, wait, Hitler was Jewish.
	I don't see you spreading.
	Bullshit.
	So what's subversive?
	Where's the subversive?
	What am I doing then?
	If I am a Jew hired, what exactly am I accomplishing here?
	You're doing a terrible job.
	I'm doing a horrible job.
	I'm about to get axed.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay.
	We're coming up on the last 15 minutes.
	I don't know if you had any other topics or thoughts on your mind before we close out at all.
	Not really.
	No, I think we've covered pretty much everything.
	I guess we went into, you know, Trump and everything.
	What is your prediction?
	What do you think is going to happen this year?
	This year?
	Well, I think you're going to see a massive increase in our sentiments.
	People talking about, you know, being pro-Hitler, being anti-Jewish.
	I think you're going to see a lot more of this.
	You're going to see a lot more racial consciousness.
	And hopefully...
	What I really want to see is the average white person starting to really touch into racial consciousness.
	And not just for, you know, political reasons, but for their own safety.
	I mean, I'm so tired of seeing videos like white women getting the shit beaten out of them by like a pack of she-boons.
	It's exhausting.
	It really is.
	So I think you're going to see a lot more racial consciousness.
	I think our guys have been doing a really good job with propaganda, showing the difference of the races, showing what Jews are trying to do.
	So the consciousness is rising.
	Just in the last two years that I've been doing this, the amount of change I've seen in how people view this problem, how much more open people are talking about it.
	And I think additionally, you will see those crackdowns that you were speaking of with censorship.
	I'm really thinking that you're going to see a push to outright ban anti-Semitism legally in the United States.
	I think they're really going to try that.
	A lot of people think that's a bad thing.
	I think it's great.
	I think if they do that, it's one of the best things that can happen.
	Because what happens is, when they ban anti-Semitism and people are going to jail for saying, oh, I don't like Jews, or oh, I think that Jew is bad, it will be impossible for the average person to not realize that this system is corrupt, it's owned and controlled by Jews, and anybody speaking out against that, it's the good old phrase, The emperor has no clothes.
	Old Japanese phrase, right?
	You're not allowed to say that or you're going to get killed by the emperor, right?
	And it's kind of where we're at now.
	You say Jews run Disney and you go to jail?
	It's like, well, obviously Jews run Disney then.
	So hopefully they...
	I don't want to say hopefully they do that.
	But I think that...
	I think it's inevitable that they're going to do that, and hopefully when it happens, people are ready and they see what's happening through that, and it wakes a lot more people up a lot faster.
	I think that's what will happen.
	Well, and there's that rebellious instinct in American people particularly.
	There's a reason why Americans drink so heavily in college, because they're under 21 and they're not supposed to drink.
	Same with during the...
	Time when they were, like, banning alcohol and there was bootlegging and everybody was smuggling alcohol.
	Like, when you tell somebody not to do something, you're gonna just make that boom.
	You know, now that's what everybody wants to do.
	Now that's the rebellious thing that when kids are rebelling against their parents and all these 15-year-old boys with all this teenage angst, what are they gonna do?
	They're gonna be anti-Semitic because that's what you're not supposed to do.
	That's what you're being told not to do.
	So, yeah, it's probably that.
	Yeah, I agree with you.
	I think there is that rebellious aspect, especially in the youth.
	And if the youth is aware of this problem, that's the best we can have.
	There's people in their 60s and 70s, they're never going to change.
	They're never going to put themselves in that mindset.
	They're too far stuck in the system.
	They have so much hope.
	Again, I have family that...
	The only thing they can say when you start getting into political conversation, they complain about it all.
	They complain about everything around them.
	All the immigrants, all this, all that.
	And then when you start talking about, okay, who's behind this?
	Why is it happening?
	The only thing they can say is, well, all we can do is just vote.
	Just hope Trump wins.
	Just hope he fixes it.
	It's like, dude, come on.
	Where's the ambition?
	It's terrible to hear, but yeah, it's bad.
	One other comment I want to make, because I do see it in the chat room quite often, people are constantly saying things of, you know, we have to go into Marxism, we have to go into this and this, and all of these things that we're talking about broadly, right?
	When we talk about the Jewish problem, it encompasses all of those things by nature, right?
	The Jewish problem is this big oak tree.
	The system is an oak tree, and the Jews are the root of that oak tree.
	And all these little things that we're talking about, transgenderism, corruption politically, pornography, these are all the branches off of that.
	So we don't want to spend too much time focusing on the branches, and then the root keeps growing and more and more branches keep spawning.
	So I hope people that are listening understand that.
	When you hear so much rhetoric about this problem, it's because it is the core.
	It's the source of the problem.
	All these things are spawning out from it.
	And if you can get touch on that source and make people aware of the source, all those other things are, by default, we agree that they're wrong, right?
	Naturally.
	So, okay.
	With that said, I think we can close up here.
	I just want to give you a moment to give all of your links where people can find you.
	Where they can find your show.
	I know you're on Censored TV. And you did keep your word.
	You have not changed your rhetoric on your show.
	I'm very happy about that.
	That was a concern I expressed in that first space with you.
	So good on you for that.
	It doesn't really matter, like, whatever some people on that platform might believe.
	Like, they're not telling me what to say.
	So I'm like, fine.
	And if you're not telling me what to say, and I'm not having to sign any contracts, and I'm just kind of like what you're doing, just like streaming to there.
	As well, then I don't see what's wrong with it.
	And most of the people, believe me, are pretty based behind the scenes there.
	That's not the impression they necessarily want to give off, but it's not the worst place in the world.
	But yeah, I've got a show on Censored.tv.
	If you want to go there, it is behind a paywall.
	That's why I'm allowed to say whatever I want, because even on X and Rumble, sometimes if you're not careful, you will get taken down there too.
	So CodeLily, 20% off there.
	And then just follow my ex if you want to.
	If you don't want to, that's fine.
	And I've got everything else linked on my ex, so that's about it.
	Okay, great, great.
	And congratulations on the show.
	I hope you enjoy that show moving forward, because I am very happy to see that you have good rhetoric over there.
	I've been watching from time to time, so it's good.
	Oh, good.
	Well, thank you so much for having me on, and you have really improved, too.
	Your talking style, like on camera, because I can tell a major difference even from when you were on my show to now, I guess because you've been streaming a lot more, so very professional.
	Well, thank you.
	I'm happy to hear that.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	Well, I'll see you, Lily.
	Thank you very much for coming on.
	It was a pleasure.
	Thanks.
	Bye.
	All right, folks.
	That was...
	Lily Gaddis as a guest.
	I do apologize.
	I did see we had a couple Super Chats.
	I didn't have time to address them, and I know one was specific to ask her a question.
	I do apologize for not catching that.
	Give me just a brief second here.
	I'm going to change my screen and pull these Super Chats up and get back to them.
	Okay.
	Good.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I do apologize for missing those.
	We had Hitler Truth with a $5 Super Chat on Rumble.
	Thank you, and I'm sorry that I did not...
	It's very hard for me to talk to Super Chats while I'm in the middle of an interview.
	I always try to do it at the end.
	I have a hard time with that.
	He says, Zach explained to her the need for her to reach out to women of the world to J-pill them and how a mass woman J-pilled movement would make every dude line up to be J-woke.
	Women are a most underused tool.
	I do agree with that.
	Thank you very much for the Super Chat again.
	And I do agree with that.
	And hence why Ian, Malcolm, and I went to Lily and had this conversation with her.
	I don't know how many people actually know.
	We are the ones that gave her the J-PIL. We talked to her for like two hours in a Twitter space, taught her about all these things.
	In the beginning, she was very against this concept, or maybe not against it.
	She was just...
	Definitely not on board.
	And we had enough of our rhetoric got into her, and she started looking into these things, and now she agrees.
	She's been spreading it to all of her different channels.
	I know that she has quite a few really good tweets that are addressing these problems.
	It's very important.
	Let me answer the Super Chat so I don't get into that point because we have about 10 minutes left on the show.
	We've got Moondog with the $10 Super Chat on Odyssey.
	Thank you very much for that.
	He says, Fiverr for you both.
	Europa all over.
	Thank you, brother, very much for that.
	I greatly appreciate it.
	Don't forget, guys, if you do want to support the show, all of the options to do so are down in the description.
	In the link below, it is the bio.stream description.
	Which I need to start promoting that bio stream link a little bit more because it's a really convenient website to put all my work on it together, keep everything kind of in one area.
	I really enjoy the site.
	Computer's running a little slow on me here.
	Just bear with me, folks.
	I think that's all the Super Chats anyway.
	So that said, I just go back to the point about women in the movement and them kind of touching on this stuff.
	It's really important that we wake up women that are especially in her position where she has a lot of followers.
	She's very open to new ideas and hearing these things out.
	She's a very important person for us to talk to because you have a conversation with her.
	Mind you, remember her majority audience is like conservative white men who the best rhetoric they have is they don't want trannies on their Bud Light cans.
	That's their best rhetoric.
	So now if they're hearing it from her, these people are naturally inclined.
	They're like, oh, beautiful woman saying things I like.
	Let me just follow what she's saying.
	That's a really good way.
	These same guys are not going to be watching my show and being won over by me because I don't have the picture that they're looking for.
	They're not really there for the political takes.
	They're there for other reasons, obviously.
	I do agree with that sentiment, for sure.
	Well, Hit La Truth, I can send her a message.
	So that said, we're coming up on the last 10 minutes of the show.
	We're going to do a little bit of an outro here.
	I have a show coming up on Wednesday.
	I'm going to be discussing Mein Kampf for episode 29 of Logos Academy.
	I want to try to promote the book a little bit more.
	I want people to understand the book.
	I'm just tired of seeing this very lukewarm Jewish rhetoric of Hitler was Jewish and he was a Zionist and all this gay stuff.
	People really need to start waking up out of that.
	You give like one read of Mind Conf and it's very clear that that's not the case.
	So people need to start understanding that.
	I want to talk about the importance of that book.
	Maybe pull a couple passages aside.
	I do have a couple other book recommendations that I want to give as well.
	I have quite a few book reads that I think are really important that I want to talk about to the chat here.
	So that's going to be Wednesday at 4 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Then the day after on Thursday.
	I'm going to be doing a roundtable with none other than Monica Schaefer, if you guys are familiar with her.
	A wonderful woman, a serious fighter for this cause, has been for quite a while.
	She was actually arrested in Germany for Holocaust denial.
	She was released and she now lives free in Canada.
	Well, as free as we can be, right?
	So that's going to be at 4 p.m.
	Eastern on Thursday, the day after.
	We're going to be joined by Lana from Red Ice.
	And Michelle Renouf.
	Now, I'm not incredibly familiar with Michelle Renouf, but I've heard very good things about her.
	So we're going to be joined by those three ladies, and we're going to be doing a show in memory of Ursula Haverbeck, the woman who was imprisoned in her 90s for Holocaust Denial, who was a serious fighter for a lot of years.
	So it's going to be kind of like a ladies' roundtable.
	We haven't done one of those in quite a while on the show.
	I think I'm going to have a more clever name to it.
	I think I got something in mind, but I think that's what we'll do.
	And then Friday, I'm probably just going to have a casual show.
	Nothing real serious.
	Just going to be me chatting it up.
	Very soon, I will be having Antelope Hill, if you guys are familiar.
	One in the chat, if you guys are familiar with Antelope Hill, the book publishing company.
	Two of you are not.
	One if you guys know what Antelope Hill is.
	two if you don't.
	Pull up the website while I wait for you guys to respond.
	Thank you.
	Okay, good, good.
	A lot of ones.
	I don't think this is going to be visible for the Rumble Studio, so if you guys are listening over on Odyssey and Rumble and Twitter, you guys will see this.
	But if you're on the Rumble Studio, you won't.
	Oops.
	If I can even pull it up, I'm a little technologically inept here.
	Okay, so this is Antelope Hill.
	AntelopeHillPublishing.com.
	I'm going to be having one of the publishers from Antelope Hill on my show very soon to promote the book.
	They're very nice people.
	I spoke to them on the phone not long ago.
	They have a lot of really good literature, national socialist literature, historic revisionism.
	Cultural ones, you know, like Decline of the West, things like that.
	Books on fascism.
	Books on Christian fascism.
	A lot of really good works that they have on this website.
	I'm going to be partnering with this company, okay?
	So, here on 4th, this has already started.
	From here on out, rather, not here on fourth.
	That sounds really retarded.
	From here on out, if you guys ever want to make a purchase on antelopehillpublishing.com, you can use code LOGOS. L-O-G-O-S. You're going to save yourself 10% when you check out.
	10%.
	Just like Money Tree Publishing, you save 10% when you use code LOGOS. You're going to save the same on Antelope Hill Publishing.
	So I'm going to have one of their guys on the website here.
	And then I will also potentially be interviewing book authors that have their books up on the website in the future as well.
	So there's going to be a lot of nice interviews coming up real soon.
	I'm trying to get more guest hosts coming on because I've been doing a lot of self-hosted monologue shows lately.
	So I want to get some more guests on, give you guys somebody else to listen to other than me all the time.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Maybe I will have my own Wikipedia page soon.
	Maybe soon.
	I am amazed.
	I haven't had any articles written about me yet or any ADL hit pieces.
	I can't believe it.
	There hasn't been a Logos Revealed, Stu Peters affiliate, anti-Semitic rhetoric, pro-Nazi.
	I'm amazed.
	I haven't seen any of that stuff yet.
	I don't know why I'm so under the radar.
	I've interviewed a lot of big people.
	I'm very shocked.
	Very shocked.
	I'm patiently waiting.
	I actually really want them to do one on me.
	It's an achievement.
	It's a badge of honor and they're not doing it.
	I'm kind of mad at the Jews.
	So Jews, if you're watching, the thing you're pissing me off the most with is not exposing me.
	Why are you not doing it?
	I'm completely ready for it.
	Got myself all set up.
	They're not doing it.
	They're just not doing it.
	So it's so aggravating.
	So aggravating.
	Okay, well, with that being said, folks, I think we're going to close out the show.
	Thank you guys for watching.
	It's been a nice chat with Lily.
	Make sure you guys go follow her on her Twitter and all her other platforms.
	She's a very nice woman.
	And I just want to one more time clarify, there are a lot of accusations of her being Jewish.
	I don't think any of these have credibility to them.
	If I am wrong...
	And she does turn out to be Jewish.
	I will be the first person to admit that and denounce her for lying to my face and making me look like a scumbag.
	But I really don't think she's Jewish.
	I have a very good Judar and I don't see it at all.
	I really don't.
	So I think it's very important that if she isn't Jewish, someone defends her.
	I don't see anybody really defending her because they don't want to be attacked as somebody that's just giving her the benefit of the doubt.
	But I think it's really important because if she's not Jewish and we're just letting people attack her, we're like discrediting important women from our movement that could be very helpful to us.
	So truth is very important here, extremely important.
	She's not Jewish.
	We have to defend her.
	If she is Jewish, well, then we have to announce that.
	And I have to announce that I was incorrect.
	And I very well might be.
	I'm not saying I am right.
	But it's very important that we're careful about that, you know?
	So, with that said, I'm going to get rolling here.
	Thank you guys again for watching.
	I'll see you guys Wednesday, 4 p.m.
	Eastern.
	We're going to be talking about Mein Kampf and a couple other book recommendations that I have for you guys.
	Haven't done that in a while.
	I really like to recommend works for people.
	You guys know I'm big on books and I'm big on reading.
	So, thank you guys so much for listening and I'll see you guys on Wednesday.

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