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Nov. 15, 2024 - Stew Peters Show
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Logos Academy Episode 21: Tonitrus Guest Host
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are live.
Welcome, everybody.
We're joined by a very good friend of mine.
His name is Tony Triss.
For those who are regulars to my show, I'm sure you absolutely have to know who he is.
He's been on my show probably half a dozen times, something like that.
So, for those that are not familiar with him, we'll get into his background a little bit.
I just want to say really quickly for everybody, I'm only live on the Stu Peters Network at the moment.
I'm unfortunately having some problems with my OBS, which is not through Rumble Studio, so I'm able to still be live on Rumble Studio, which is on the Stu Peters Network, but I'm not able to go live on the rest of my OBS. Channels at the current moment.
So in the meantime, we will just be live with Vinitris here on the Rumble Studio.
So welcome, brother.
It is wonderful to have you on.
It's always a pleasure every time you're on.
Thank you.
And likewise, brother.
It's always a pleasure to talk with you.
And greetings, everyone.
I'm originally from Europe, born and raised in Europe of very Southern European descent.
Pretty fresh to the movement, as a matter of fact.
I was, in a way, introduced by Zach to this American scene.
And ever since, I think we discovered that we aligned with many ideological points, as well as cultural and social aspects of this whole struggle that we were in.
And I think that that's something that got us...
Closer, especially given the fact that we have completely different backgrounds, come from completely different nations, speak different language, at least original language, and have different live experience, but yet we found ourselves on the exactly same path.
And I think that that's fascinating.
I do as well.
That's something I've always found extremely interesting in this movement, however you can really use that term in context, whether it's a physical movement or a movement of the mass conscious, whatever you really want to call it.
But there is a very interesting piece here where I came into this very naturally myself.
Through my own independent research, kind of looked into some things, read a couple books, and found myself in this way of thought, we'll say.
And when I kind of came here and found people that had maybe came to a similar conclusion themselves, it's kind of uncanny how similar our worldviews become just from our own independent research, which kind of, I think that in itself validates the truth of our cause and what it is that we speak about.
So, for those that are on the Rumble Studio that might not be familiar with you and are not regulars to my show, maybe you want to go into that background a little bit of how exactly it is that you enlightened yourself to these ideals.
I don't know if you want to go into how we met specifically.
Whatever you feel comfortable going into, and then we'll kick off the topic for today, which I won't say yet.
I'll wait actually until you come in, and then we'll do the topic after.
Absolutely, brother.
I think that's a great way to start any topic and introduce the whole aspect of why I'm even here.
Just like a lot of people nowadays, came into life into very oblivious, politically oblivious people who didn't really know what's going on, didn't really care that much.
And unfortunately, they were already exhibiting a lot of the...
Rot from the modern society.
They have already become very damaged, morally speaking, culturally speaking, and unfortunately, the whole family was pretty much broken.
So growing up, I never had any introduction to the political issues or to Any sort of warning about what's going on or who is in charge and what are the dangers of modern trends and so on.
So I just tagged along, obviously, like most of the people and was part of this rotten society and was listening to a lot of the degenerate music, so-called music, right?
Like the gangster rap and things like that just because I wanted to feel tough when I was growing up.
I was hanging out with very rough people from the streets and I've seen a lot of things and that made me think.
I wanted to know what is live about and why a lot of things seem to be very weird and don't align, logically speaking, why there's so many weird sexual...
Why is it so that we are pushed to accept that and this is presented to us as some sort of a virtue?
Why there is this privileged group of people that we cannot ever talk about negatively the mere mention of their ethnic name if you don't Do it in a very positive manner is controversial in itself, right?
The name Jew, this is something that is almost forbidden if it's not followed by some ass-kissing and telling everyone what kind of victims they are.
So there were just a lot of things that never made sense to me and instead of just accepting, blindly accepting all those things, I wanted to I understand it.
I wanted to confront it.
I asked a lot of questions in school and that made me even more curious because I found out how dangerous it is to even ask questions, right?
To not accept blindly that rhetoric that we are being fed.
So, at the end of the day, I was discovering more and more of the facts, eventually coming to a fuller understanding.
And obviously, I'm not claiming that I'm at the point of fully understanding everything, because probably no one really is.
It's so complex and so dark that it's even hard for us to comprehend.
But I feel like we have to be onto something.
If so many of intelligent people...
came to the same conclusions independently.
It's not like there is a one-on-one course on YouTube, how to become a Nazi, right?
It's not like we have read the same books, that we have attended the same class.
There's nothing like that.
There's no school that would teach those things.
So all of those things need to be done independently.
And you need to exhibit certain specific characteristics as a person in order to be able and be motivated to want to do so.
And I think that it cannot be a coincidence that so many of us from so many different backgrounds came to the same point.
Yeah, I think that's very adequate, and that's something that I myself have thought about pretty hard quite a few times.
I've really contemplated on that, that There is no, like you said, there's no how-to guide on how to get here, right?
And even if you do come here through the same methods, let's say both of us read Mein Kampf, and that was our enlightenment to this situation.
Well, there's also many other aspects to it, right?
It's not just learning about the history of World War II and what really happened there, right?
You have to know What happened to the United States?
Look at 9-11, the JFK assassination.
You look at what happened to Gaddafi.
All these different things that you have to study and analyze.
And as I'm sure you're well aware, there's a lot of psychological traps in that process where they try to kind of deviate your thought away from the correct direction into something else, such as It's the Kazarians, or it's the Zionists, or it's just the Communists, right?
And through all of these different avenues, a lot of people in their process of awakening or learning, they'll get trapped in these things.
And you'll see that rhetoric kind of start to spew out of it's the Frankists, and they slowly...
Fall away from, I guess, what we can call the collective movement, or I don't know if you want to maybe call it a mass consciousness.
And that mass consciousness is, I think, actively, from what I can see in the last two years, maybe three, is pushing itself in this correct direction of a full understanding of the problem.
And again, I don't think it's going to be tomorrow.
I don't think it's going to be next year, even.
But after enough time, Of everybody using the same rhetoric, speaking on the same topics, I truly do believe there is going to become a mutual understanding.
And I think it's at that point that we can really and honestly define this as a movement in the truest sense of the word.
So to back up a little bit and maybe kind of get onto the topic today, which is, I guess we'll say the political system.
And The invalidity of the current system that we're functioning underneath, which I think a lot of people are coming to the realization of.
However, with the recent election, it seems we're seeing a couple more people fall back into this confusion or psychosis of paralytic hope, right?
To kind of get us on that subject, if you want to talk about maybe you as a European who moved to the United States kind of later, how did you come to the understanding of the system being corrupt, this idea of a two-party system being essentially non-functional?
And through that, I guess I'll let you explain that and we'll kind of tack on from there.
We'll go from there.
It's actually pretty easy to understand it in my circumstance, just because it's exactly the same in Europe.
Every single country, or at least the great majority of them, have something similar to the American system.
Even if it's not a two-party system specifically, in the sense that there's only two dominating parties that stand a chance in federal elections...
There's still a divide between the so-called right and the so-called left, right?
And you will have a group of people that will represent more of a patriotic approach to the matter, to the politics.
They will be against the so-called refugees, the hostile invaders that are being flooded into our countries.
They will openly say some of the...
Things that align with the healthy sentiments of the people, right?
That, well, we can't accept that many refugees.
Well, we can't have them living in their own ghettos, not integrating, so-called, right?
Things like that.
And then we have left that openly pushes more and more destruction of the West, more destruction of our nations, that we need more so-called refugees, that we need to push the so-called LGBTQP with a strong emphasis on P. agenda on kids, right?
Because it's so important that the kids will understand different sexual deviations and that they will learn really young to accept them and tolerate them and be open-minded, so-called open-minded.
So there's always this divide on more progressive kind of a side and then more patriotic, more so-called conservative.
And it can be played by multiple parties, right?
Like in a lot of European countries, we have a coalition of some smaller parties, each playing into that same political side of the spectrum that, oh, well, we are a right wing party, so we are going to build a right wing coalition with those smaller parties.
So at the end of the day, it's pretty much the same result as having one big umbrella party, Republican Party, that will represent the so-called conservative sentiments, right?
And in all of those cases, you can see the progression that the so-called right is progressing ever so slightly, always, in every election cycle, more to the left.
They are being more compromised.
They are trying to be appeasing more.
They are talking about pragmatism that, oh, well, you know, if we want to win elections, that we need to be more accepting of those other people that...
Now being gay is okay.
You just have to be this normal gay guy, right?
Who is not accepting the trannies.
That's too much.
It's a little bit too far.
But gayness, oh yeah, that's a Western value.
So we need to cherish that.
Accepted fully.
And the left, obviously, is progressing always more to the left in the sense of progressing more into this very specific ideology designed to destroy our values, our culture, our bloodline.
Our civilization, everything is Talmudic and they are just more and more open about how Talmudic they really are and how much they hate white people and how it is essential to pretty much get rid of the Aryan bloodline from all the Western nations, right?
So that's a trend that is observable all around the West.
Even in countries like Australia and Canada, obviously, you can see the same trends.
And even in Latin America, to some extent, some countries in Latin America are of...
More European descent, like for instance, Argentina or Uruguay, those countries are predominantly people of European descent and the same trends are happening there, exactly the same thing.
It's always the same.
Even in a country like Mexico, you will observe the same thing and they will always use the demographic that they have in hand To use as a weapon against white people.
So for instance, in case of Mexico, they will weaponize now the so-called indigenous people, right?
The Indians.
So like the Mayans from the south and so on.
Now the Jewish president of Mexico will tell everyone that, oh, they are underprivileged people, so we need to Take care of them and give them money.
And you people of Spanish descent, you better hide because you've done some really nasty things here in Mexico.
And those nasty things are building a great civilization, bringing European culture and all those great things that we have no reason to be ashamed of.
And in Spain, for instance, a country that is very close to me, in Spain we are being taught that the Muslims actually belong to Spain because They conquered Spain back in the days, right?
Centuries ago.
So now we have to bow down because actually Spaniards are the evil ones and we took them from them.
So it's always this guilt tripping.
And I've noticed one thing that the so-called right wing has never ever balls to deconstruct the whole Fundaments of this.
To say that we, as Aryan people, have no reason to be ashamed of.
That we have a great history.
That there is actually some serious racial differences between us and some other people.
And that's precisely the reason why some people are so-called unprivileged, right?
That some people live in less advanced civilizations.
It's not because our people were so evil to deprive them from that, right?
We haven't been, our ancestors, meaning, haven't been to the Americas.
It's not our fault that the Indians have lived in savage conditions, oftentimes, right?
That they would fight each other, that they would have all those tribal wars and they wouldn't really have any advanced civilization because our ancestors were not present for all this time, just...
They showed up only five centuries ago, right?
So even though it's so obvious and it should be pointed out the first thing to confront all this fight guilt, it is never done so by the right because they are fake opposition.
They want us to keep us in this Vicious cycle of hating ourselves, hating our ancestors, and bowing down.
They are just going to be playing this role of a good cop, right?
And appease some of the healthy sentiments and use them against us, right?
Well, actually, you know, you're right.
Your healthy sentiments against letting in more refugees is correct.
So we will tell you how right you are and we will give you some sort of policies that maybe we can implement and stop the flood of the refugees.
But then we will call that.
It's not about the race.
We need immigrants, but we need them legally.
Right.
Or we don't hate those refugees.
We just want them to integrate.
We want them to become our citizens and learn our culture.
So that is yet another step of diluting our bloodline, obviously, and our race, right?
They want us to change.
They want us to become something different and essentially destroy what we have right now and build this corporate solo society so it will be easier controlled by the Jewish overlord.
That's a really important point.
A lot of people still have faith in this.
It's more so the system itself.
They want the system to function.
They want to feel that it isn't hopeless or doomed.
But they have specifically faith in this Republican Party and they're somehow going to save us or they're going to help us.
Um, what's really interesting is the people that I know that, that hold that misguided faith in this party, uh, are people that themselves five years ago, 10 years ago were Democrats.
Right.
Uh, and then they said, Hey, you know, uh, well, the Democrats were great until Obama.
So now I got to swap over for the Hillary campaign.
You know, I don't want a woman president.
Uh, so the Republicans are going to somehow do it better.
And it turns into more of a game of sports ball rather than political wellbeing.
And I think that's a really big problem.
It's my team versus your team.
Your left, I'm right.
You're Democrat, I'm Republican.
It's my team versus your team.
I want to win.
I want to see that guy Trump with the most votes on the TV tomorrow.
I want to win.
Rather than...
A matter of political endeavor as to, is this best for my country?
Is this going to benefit my people long term?
Is this going to make us happy?
Is this going to provide us a better foundation for our future?
I don't think you hear that much from people.
I think you hear more of this back and forth kind of game of...
I want to one-up you.
I want to win.
I want your side to lose.
I want my side to win.
And that kind of goes to show the situation we're in with how polarized things have become.
We saw this with the vaccine as well.
The vaccine was a really, really big starter for all of this stuff where people were Deciding, hey, if you don't see it exactly this way, you're just automatically incorrect.
It doesn't matter that logic is on your side or you are physically correct.
We're just going to argue for our team.
Which goes to this...
Concept that's obviously very important is that both of these sides are essentially and fundamentally funded by the exact same people.
And what you'll notice is this group of people that funds them, these Jews, predominantly through AIPAC and other...
There's plenty of other programs and institutions, but AIPAC's the big one.
This...
Group of people is the only one thing that both parties will always fervently agree upon.
They don't agree upon abortion.
They don't agree upon immigration.
They don't agree upon racism or racial values.
They don't agree upon religion.
They don't agree upon morality.
But the one thing they all agree upon is that Israel is our greatest ally.
And I think this goes to show where our system is beholden to or what is in control of our system fundamentally.
Yeah, very well said, brother.
And, you know, I would add, actually, a very important aspect of this agreement, this bipartisan agreement, right?
It's a moral one.
It's almost like a religious one.
They always agree that the so-called Nazism, the white supremacy, is evil and we need to do whatever it takes to fight it, to destroy it.
They always agree with that.
The right wing will claim that they need to purge some of those unhinged and radical elements from their camp, right?
So there's no place for anyone who is so-called anti-Semitic, who is racist, or however they would put it.
And the left, obviously, is openly against anything that is close to that.
And they will play this game of...
Accusing anyone, right, who expresses any healthy sentiments, even those who are against the pedophilia and who will block the drag queen story hours for little kids, they will call them Nazis.
So the right, instead of Pointing out the most obvious things that, well, yes, indeed we are, because there's only the Nazis against the little pedophiles, demonic pedophiles, as the whole transgenderism was started by the Jews, right?
And only opposed by the National Socialists.
Obviously they're not going to do that.
They will play right into that Jewish game and they will deny that they have anything to do with the National Socialists.
And then they will shift that Enemy, the projection of the enemy, and they will claim that, well, the left is the actual Nazis, right?
That they are the actual Nazis.
They are the actual racists, kind of like in America, this popular meme that the Democrats are the real racists, right?
Just so it can be very clear to the public that you cannot be a Nazi, you cannot be a racist.
That's unacceptable.
And both sides will always We'll always crush it, right?
So there's no place for you in the politics if you want to have any views like that.
And I think that this is a very strategic game that they play.
It absolutely is, and they do a very good job at it.
And this even permeates into the narrative of the Israel-Palestine conflict.
We talk about this, and it's very clearly, specifically a Jewish problem.
Not to be confused with a communistic Jewish problem or a Zionist Jewish problem.
It is a Jewish problem.
However, the right wing, and predominantly a lot of Jews within it, Have fomented this narrative, and very well done they have, that somehow it's just Zionism.
It's not actually all Jews or some Jews or a lot of Jews or most Jews.
It's just political Zionism.
So now they take the blame away from a people and a worldview and an ideology, and they put it into a, a political apparatus, right?
And now it's a, well, it's just this, this a small group and this little contingency of them rather than the collective that has been advocating for it for, for years or on behalf of it.
Uh, and you know, um, I coined this phrase, uh, that I I've seen making the rounds quite a bit.
Uh, Zionism was not kicked out of 109 countries.
So you can't just blame an ideal that is essentially fresh in the scope of history.
It doesn't work that way, right?
It's just not logical.
So to get us on the topic with the election itself, I talk about Donald Trump because one of the things that we see here is these people who still have belief in the system and want it to work wholeheartedly.
They very much also believe that Trump is the savior of our people and that he's going to be that one that's going to swoop in and fix everything and save the day and we're going to get lower gas prices and we're going to have a better economy and The immigration is going to be all legal, right?
All these kind of like lukewarm opinions.
How do you view Donald Trump from a European perspective coming into the United States and kind of recognizing this system for what it is?
And actually, maybe to add to that, on top of Trump's How do you view some of the Republicans over in Europe, anywhere in Europe?
I mean, it really doesn't matter where you go in the West.
It's pretty much the same circumstance, but I'm curious to hear it from a perspective that has experience from over there, or at least some knowledge of it.
Can you just clarify that last part of the question?
How do I view some of the Republicans?
Yeah, so, you know, how do you view Trump as a European coming into America, you know, as a, you know, a lot of people confuse him as maybe a savior of our people.
So how do you view him in that light?
And then additionally, how do you view some politicians that are over in Europe that are also kind of right wing and purport to be trying to help people out and be, you know, whatever is the best solution for us?
How do you view them as well?
If you have any examples?
There's this very interesting phenomenon in regards to the Republican Party from the United States.
There's this specific group that is in between the actual based people that are just National Socialists or who have very similar sentiments to the National Socialism.
Maybe they don't want to call themselves like that, but they pretty much are, ideologically speaking, fully aligned with the National Socialism.
And then there are obviously the leftists, right?
The lemmings that are fully indoctrinated by the system.
And their moral compass is fully based on the...
Human rights and all these really nice sounding slogans from the left, from the modern left.
So in between those people, there's this larger group of people that are Thinking that the left is insane, but at the same time will always give them some sort of a respect that they don't deserve.
It kind of feels like they treat them like a cool kids club, right?
That the leftists are the cool kids.
So we need to be a little bit respecting for them and...
Hear them out and not be fully against them and give the reason of the doubt to them, right?
And that's a big problem because even though they think and proclaim that they are insane, they will Take their opinions very seriously when it comes to, for instance, opinion on Trump, right?
They truly believe that Trump is on our side, just like they claim that, oh, Trump is racist and he wants to deport people.
So because they have those healthy sentiments still, that middle group, they will view Trump as someone who can potentially save the West because they believe in that...
In that whole dynamic between the left and the mainstream media, right?
What they're talking about, the Trump, and then the way he presents himself as well.
So, they are very blind to the actual interests of our people.
They are even blind to the actual interests of our particular nations or a particular nation that they come from.
They will ignore all that.
What kind of an impact Donald Trump will have on Europe or a small European nation.
And they will just focus on this very altruistic and universal image that is...
Sourced heavily from the mainstream media and from those same leftists that they think that they are insane.
And they will just think that, oh, Trump must be a good guy, Trump must be a savior of the world, because those people who are insane are saying that he wants to do all the good things, right?
In the sense that he wants to do all the bad things for the left, but they are the good things for any sane person, right?
So they actually believe that he really wants to make America white again and things like that.
The problem here is that Trump is very anti-European.
He expresses many times that...
You know, Europe is pretty much useless, that they are a dying continent and things like that.
And so do many Republicans from the United States.
They represent this kind of American isolationism combined with the global Jewish supremacy, right?
So they want to...
And in a way, I think that reflects some of the organic Support from ordinary American that the modern Republicans get that they truly care about their country, America.
They want to see America succeed.
They want the prosperity to go back.
They want to see America play a key role on the global scale.
They want to see America as a global empire telling everyone what to do.
They want to see the dollar being kept as this universal Money for the international transactions.
But they don't care about anything else, right?
So if the Jewish supremacy will grant them that status, the status of their country, they are fine with it.
And they are being promised that in a way.
Trump is saying to make America great again.
He's not saying anything about the ethnicity of America.
He's not saying anything about the good of white people.
He's not saying anything about the good of our civilization, about the good of our culture, the survival of our culture.
The survival of our kind.
The good relationships between various flight nations.
He's never saying that, nor...
Anyone from that circle, all they do is just concentrate on this isolated American prosperity that you'll just have your American economy or you'll get to keep your big trucks and maybe keep some guns and you will have still some buying power with your dollar.
And that's all that matters to these people, right?
There's nothing of a higher purpose in that.
So I recognize that for Europe, Trump is definitely not good.
But then again, you know, it's not to say that the Democrats are good for Europe either, right?
But Trump is definitely not any better for Europe.
And oftentimes it was the case when he won election in 2016 that he would appoint some of the most insane people to ambassadors in some of the nations in Europe that would openly disrespect the national values, the country that they would in a way serve as an American ambassador in, right?
And they would openly combat any signs of so-called anti-Semitism.
That would be the task number one in those European nations.
That they would police the freedom of speech.
Well, the speech.
They would police the speech in that particular country.
They would only speak out when there would be something that would be either perceived as anti-Semitic or racist.
And they would not care at all about the well-being of that country or even good relationship between Americans and that nation.
It would only be represented by Jewish interests.
And they would always openly Let know of that power dynamic.
The difference between the powers of America and some smaller nation.
You better be careful because we are here Military number one on the global scene.
So, you know, you don't want to mess with us.
Do us, you're told, and just don't question us, right?
And we are not going to even acknowledge your local festivities because we don't care about it.
But you have to do something spectacular for the Holocaust remembrance, right?
That's all that matters.
Your local culture, your ethnic values, it doesn't matter.
You know, we don't care about Europe.
We care about the Jews.
That was pretty much The vibe that I got from that administration and from the insane people that he would appoint.
I think the great example would be this.
Unfortunately, I don't remember any names right now.
But someone can check out, for instance, the ambassador to Poland that Trump appointed.
A completely insane lady who...
She had thousands of plastic surgeries done.
You can tell just by looking at her.
And she would be pushing very hard for Poland to pay reparations to the Jews for apparently not respecting some of the things that...
You know, they always invent something, right?
The Jews always have to be the victims.
And the European countries, our countries always have to be the evil maniacs who just want to hurt poor innocent people.
So, unfortunately, Trump's administration is very anti-European in that aspect.
No different than Democrats, right?
There's just no difference.
Just like you said, they all go down to AIPAC, to the same master, and expecting that they will do anything positive to the white people, it's insane.
The only thing that can happen in here from the American perspective is, indeed, Trump may bring a little bit of prosperity because perhaps it is needed to For America to be strong and produce some of the militaristic power right now to aid Israel with Iran.
He pretty much promised Israel that America will be at war with Iran.
So that's very concerning.
Obviously, it's not to say that the other side wouldn't do that.
We all know that they pretty much always do the same bidding.
But perhaps Trump now was able to win the election because he...
It's more trustworthy to the Jews that he will actually deliver some of the victories in the Middle East, as opposed to this senile and incompetent administration of Biden or Kamala or whoever is actually in charge there.
And one thing to note in here, since we're talking about the American elections in specific, Take a note how peaceful it is right now.
So many people hate Trump, right?
There's so many people of high status who really hate him, who would be willing to go against him, who would be willing to mobilize their own fans, for instance, all the celebrities, right?
Why is it not going on?
Why there are no protests right now?
It seems like it is accepted by the system that now we need Trump because he will do something for us.
So just shut up and don't dare to do anything.
Yeah, this is how I viewed it, too.
You know, coming up on this election, it was very clear when you paid attention very closely to predominantly Jewish media and Jews themselves and the things that they were, their rhetoric around Trump, it was pretty clear to me that he was chosen, right?
And again, you know, You saw with this last election cycle that everybody is pretty convinced was a stolen election.
You saw with this cycle, there was all of these evidences that there was an attempt to steal the election, whether it was proven that it happened or not.
There was all these evidences of it, right?
They had people stealing ballots.
They had people doing weird activities in vans with ballots and People maybe receiving more than one ballot and using that.
Notice that in this election period, which they would have, you know, the same amount of reason to steal if that was really the case, that it was a fair system that we're working under.
You'll notice that there's never any mention of any of that.
They didn't even attempt that this time.
Why would that be the case if the left really is that corrupt and they feel that serious about needing Trump out of office?
Why did they do it last time and not this time?
Why would that be the case?
And that's where you have to, you know, use your brain and think, well, it seems that they want him in there.
There's a reason that the system requires him to be in place.
I think that's pretty evident.
So that is something I think that's important to analyze as well.
I do also share your sentiments on concerns with him dragging us to war with Iran, something that I think he very much is capable of doing and probably will do.
He's been very clear about how he feels about Israel as our greatest ally, how he feels about anti-Semitism as this terrible, awful, unreconcilable thing that is worthy of the death penalty.
So these are really big things that I think need to be recognized.
Especially with all of these Republicans.
I mean, hundreds of them promoting these anti-Semitism laws and bills and ideas, all in the name of our greatest ally.
You know, the ally that's done nothing for us ever.
Yeah, I fully agree.
And you know, one other important thing to note in here, that it's...
Common sense to look at the platforms of the right and the left, and it's exactly the same in Europe, all across the board, and not to be more aligned with the right, just because they do cater a little bit more to the healthy sentiments, right?
So if you would have to choose, it's literally this very classical example of choosing the lesser evil, right?
Even though we hate them both, And they are very sleazy and the right sometimes is even more disgusting because they are trying to pretend that they are on our side, right?
But we know that they are not and they talk big game, but when it comes to the action, they don't do anything, right?
And they...
Magically always lose to the left, right?
The left always has a lot of courage and a lot of motivation to push for their most insane ideas, yet the right is always very cautious, like, well, you know, we have to just stand still and, you know, be idle and don't let them do too much.
So even though we can agree that, okay, well, they are cowards, they're sleazy, but at least they have some sanity left in them.
So we may as well just vote for them so the lesser evil will win over the bigger evil, right?
Logically speaking, that maybe makes sense.
But if you think about it, those victories, whenever the right-wing so-called wins, and the same thing happened with Milani in Italy, for instance, the so-called right-wing female president, something insane, because no sane Italian would ever think that a female president Could be at such a high position, political position.
That in itself is very unconservative, right?
It's very anti- Traditional, right?
We can't have females leading us, that's for sure.
Yet they have managed to push her into this position by fooling everyone that, oh, she will do some great things for us and, you know, trust me, she's a lesser evil.
Maybe she's not perfect, but she will definitely deport those refugees and things like that.
Whereas during her administration, a lot of nasty things happened, right?
And a lot of hostile invaders were pushed.
More of them were pushed into Italy.
Similarly with Trump, he won right now.
But with what kind of cost?
If you look at the Republican National Convention of this year, of 2024, see what kind of values they were running on, what kind of platform they had.
They...
Not even once have acknowledged the interests of white people, the existence of white Americans, the fact that the people of European descent were the ones founding the America, and that's precisely why America was so great and so prosperous.
Not once.
There weren't that many white people who would represent that platform either.
They would have a lot of Sub-Saharians that would speak in the name of American interests for some reason.
I don't know how people are buying into the fact that the Sub-Saharian is as American as a person of European descent, an American of European descent.
They had little immigrants there.
They had this Salvadorian, I believe, a lady from Central America who barely spoke any English.
And she stated that the biggest victims of so-called illegal immigration are the legal migrants who came here legally.
She is the biggest victim.
She has the audacity to tell the white Americans that she is a bigger victim Of the destruction of America than the Americans themselves.
And that was on Republican National Convention.
That's how they play.
They try to sneak in some of the healthy sentiments that, well, let's oppose the illegal immigration.
That's common sense, right?
But with what kind of moral compromise?
They will squeeze in all this subversion so the people who are supporting this kind of a platform will just accept it and become more morally corrupt.
Because, okay, well, you know, Trump is our guy and we just need to make sure that he will win because he is the only person who can stop the illegal immigration.
So yes, I'll now just accept, I will learn to accept that new narrative.
I will no longer think about the race because this is not pragmatic.
This is not going to get us anywhere.
There is no candidate who represents this kind of sentiment.
So I'll just tag along with this subverted narrative and I'll just accept that, yeah, this Salvadorian lady who came to the United States just a couple of decades ago, she is the biggest victim.
And we need to start talking about it because that's what will rile up the Democrats.
We will own the leftists by showing them how not racist we are.
So this is a very rotten victory at the end of the day.
Maybe you have won the election.
Maybe you got your candidate that you wanted, but you lost the moral aspect.
You no longer hold any moral values.
And I think that that's something that counts more than this victory of some representatives of this fully corrupt system.
Yeah, I concur.
I think that's extremely well stated, too.
And it's something that I think too many are falling for everywhere you look.
Even the left themselves, right?
They have this...
They are thoroughly convinced that to attack the right, tackle down the right is fundamentally more important than their own worth or their own moral value.
Again, it is just a back and forth game of...
It's political football.
I think political football is the best way to describe it.
My team is beating your team.
Your team can't win under any circumstances.
And then in the midst of all of this, the only people that suffer, it's not the system, it's not the political parties themselves or the candidates that are getting Millions and millions of dollars in campaign funds, but rather it's the people themselves that suffer from this process because no adequate solutions are ever laid out on the table in front of them in order to benefit them adequately.
That is something that We need to seriously consider here is what is a third party option or a third perspective that we can start looking at that can actually work us out of this situation that is not a part of this system, that is not beholden to the finances of this system.
That is something that we have to start genuinely considering as a people if we really want to make any progress moving forward.
This is where we get into talks where, obviously, I'm an advocate for national socialism as a philosophy and a political worldview.
I think this is something that we need to start genuinely considering as a people.
What is a third option that is better for us?
Obviously, there's not a lot of political ideologies out there that are really on the table as options.
I think we've all come to the conclusion that communism is certainly not the answer for us.
So we have to really decide what is the method moving forward.
Well, there are a lot of third options for the Goyim.
Libertarian Party, Green Party, the communism with Jackson Hinkle or whatever his name is.
So they are absolutely trying to make the step required to give the people what they are searching for.
And unfortunately, there are so many misguided souls out there that they will just buy one or the other of those options, right?
But when it comes to the actual reliable and authentic option for our people is without a doubt something that is ideologically aligned with National Socialism.
It doesn't necessarily have to be called this way just because this is a specific name that was invented some centuries ago and used heavily in Germany.
But if you think about the etymology of National Socialism, it is pretty much the collectivism of your own kin.
That's what it boils down to if you look at the actual Latin roots of those two words.
And I think that regardless of what we think about the name itself, that's in essence what we need and what we want, right?
We want to collectivize based on a can and then harmonize that with all the other very important aspects like a good character, culture, sophisticated culture.
Future for our bloodline, safety for our kids and women, and things like that.
So anything other that doesn't fight for those specific elements, I think it can be discarded.
There's no way that we can right now play the game of being left alone because we can see clearly that the system will never leave us alone.
And this is also one of, yet another, this trick, mostly popular in the United States.
This is actually not really common in Europe at all.
Obviously, libertarianism was invented by the Jews in America, like Ayn Rand, this genderless creature that looks really demonic.
It was invented specifically to appease the Americans who have so much land in the United States that they can easily just escape, right?
Keep escaping.
So it is far easier to just...
Pack your bags and find some cheaper place in the rural area and just have your piece there rather than collectivize and try to talk with people, gain the necessarily social skills and then try to collectivize, right?
And then fight for your collective interests.
So in that regard, obviously, it is designed just to Make our people disappear from the battlefield, right?
And just be cozy by themselves.
And obviously, if you're isolated by yourself, you're way easier target by the system as if you would be with your collective that you can count on, right?
Collective that will stand up for you, a collective that will speak about whatever the system is doing to you, right?
In case if they would go after you.
So the most necessary thing right now is for us to finally break down that Jewish representation of any national socialism as unhinged people who just want to do evil stuff and just want to...
Do drugs and be destructive and yell obscenities on the street as it is represented in the Hollywood movies.
We need to break that and we need to build something serious that will grant us a collective of people that we can rely on.
A high-trust society independent from the Jewish system and the society that is producing, creating culture Independently from this whole rot, we don't need to rely on the Jewish production.
We shouldn't watch Netflix series.
We shouldn't watch Hollywood movies or yet another sequel to something or ever-progressing destruction of some once wholesome themes like Disney or something.
We need to start producing our own things.
We need to create and With that, we need to spread around that positive energy and sympathy for our cause.
So finally, it's not going to be so easy to demonize us in front of the rest of our people and do whatever they want with us, right?
Because that was the case for many decades right now, especially with this whole Holocaust thing, that the Jews would always use it to portray us as...
Evil people who want to do evil things to some innocent poor Jews, right?
Instead, we need to finally speak out against...
Well, speak about how it is exactly that...
Not to victimize ourselves, but to build a case for ourselves.
Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
So, you know, moving forward...
In your opinion, what is the best way that we can start something like this?
Obviously, we talked earlier about we're having a hard time getting everybody in the same mindset, putting everybody in the same way of thought.
What is the best way to build some kind of collective that could be, again, adequately portrayed or stated as a movement over anything else?
I'm not sure I got entirely your question correctly.
Could you maybe elaborate a little bit?
How do we start organizing something that we can consider as a movement?
What are the initial steps that need to be taken or what are the foundational steps that we need Got you.
It was actually a very basic and simple question.
For some reason, it went over my head.
I think that the step number one would be to establish certain standards, right?
The minimum standards when it comes to morality and how we interact with each other so we can avoid a toxic vibe among each other.
We have enough of the toxic attacks against us, slanders and Weird people coming at us.
We can't afford to have that within our own circles.
So I think it is very important to start vetting people according to their characters rather than just pure sloganeering, right?
For instance, I have been around, not necessarily in, but I've seen from a distance a lot of the white national circles all around Europe.
And I've noticed that the problem is that those circles are composed by a lot of shady characters, people who you wouldn't necessarily trust.
A little outcast of societies who have nowhere else to go and oftentimes use this ideology as a cope, right?
That, well, you know, I'm persecuted by the system because I represent those views and they will never mention some of the dark past or dark secrets, right, from their own lives.
And that's a serious problem because then it's all about the Slogans and just very shallow elements of that movement.
And pushing themselves to do edgier and more unhinged things just to prove themselves that they are loyal to the gang.
It's all about this Cult of personality, kind of like we see in the Jewish system.
So in a way, you know, it's an exact copy of the social structure from modern times where you have the masses blindly worshipping some celebrities and attacking anyone who would dare to say something negative about it, right?
Or the football mentality, like you have mentioned multiple times, that you just have some teams and all you need to do is just show your loyalty to the team without ever questioning any action or without ever going into any discussion about morality or merit, anything like that, right?
This is just your team.
You got to fight for it.
Don't question it and go after anyone who is outside of that team, right?
So that's obviously a recipe for a very toxic environment, something that you cannot build anything meaningful.
It's like building on sand, right?
Because you don't have any internal, any deeper understanding of the things and deeper understanding of the people that are coming into your circle.
So I think that step number one is to Start checking the characters of the people and not be afraid to distance yourself from anyone who would exhibit a lot of red flags or who would engage in certain...
Engage in weird activities that doesn't really serve our people.
I don't consider our person someone who simply expresses certain healthy sentiments or who shares the mere understanding of the situation with us.
That's not enough.
They need to be motivated to fight for our people, to Have solid character and to be capable of forming a collective with others, right?
Only then we can talk about that person being truly our guy.
Yeah, I certainly concur with that.
So, looking at this political atmosphere that we're in and The circumstances that we have with these foreign lobby groups and foreign, well, the Federal Reserve, which would, I guess, essentially in itself be a foreign lobby group.
A lot of people discuss the concept of removing the Federal Reserve, removing organizations like AIPAC, the ADL, all these more corrupt things.
Obviously, this cannot come without power, right?
How do you think, once we've created this foundation to put ourselves into some kind of political power, what do you think the method of power is for us?
Because a lot of people are maybe stuck in a mindset of they're not sure if they want to operate through the system or with outside of the system.
How do you believe we can gain political power that works best for us?
What do you think the route is?
Do you think we go inside of the system or without of the system?
I think the key here probably would be a coordination of different methods, but methods that actually work and don't contradict with each other, right?
So we can definitely have some people who are good in infiltrating the system or perhaps who are already high up there in the system and just work together with them, them being more Secret about their actual views, right?
But maybe supporting us financially or giving us some access to speak, to express our views.
A good example would be someone who is in academia, right?
And for instance, has an access to the university where you can invite a guest, right?
And let's say he hears about you and he fully agrees with your views, but he cannot openly express those views.
He can invite you to that school to talk about a certain topic and to further spread the ideals that we stand for in the understanding of the situation so the young people will open up their minds.
That's a perfect example of a coordination between someone who is part of the system and someone who is outside of the system like yourself, right?
But for that, obviously, we need to have those minimal standards, like I've mentioned before, because such a person needs to trust you that you're not going to pull something stupid, right?
That all of the sudden you're not going to start screaming obscenities in the university because then obviously you will get that person in trouble.
Whereas you just simply are going to express your views in a cultured manner, then That will be something that would be harder to stop, right?
And would be a case of very obvious censorship and that can yet again be used against the system, right?
Just to further expose it.
And I think that exposing the system in itself is also beneficial just to destroy any leftovers from that Illusion that we live in a free society.
There are still people who believe in that and I think that even though it's insane to be able to believe that after COVID, right?
But since there are people who still want to perhaps believe in that because it's hard to get rid of all those illusions.
So further exposing the system is also very beneficial.
And To further answer your question, I think that one of the most important things is to realize the situation that we're in and be very honest about it.
We do not have any power because of the Jewish banking system.
Even though still maybe our people have some material prosperity, right?
They have some properties and maybe they live in wealth and they can eat well still and they don't live in poverty for most of the part.
That doesn't mean that we have any power on the global scene.
We cannot even express our own interest on the global scene, right?
We can't talk openly about the interests of white people or the replacement of white people.
This is still a very forbidden topic.
So we need to recognize that, unfortunately, we are very...
Powerless.
And the best thing that we can do is organically organize ourselves and build communities that are independent from the Jewish system so we will at least stand a chance of surviving outside of it.
And if the tyranny will become very unbearable and they will go after anyone who doesn't align morally with the system...
We will not be threatened by it because we will be outside of it.
And we'll be able to build our own community, rebuild perhaps our own civilization from scratch, right?
Little by little.
And then if we are going to...
If we exist outside of the system and we'll have some culture of organizing ourselves and trust each other and operate collectively, then we stand a chance to regain certain aspects of power.
But this is obviously something that is designed for people with a lot of patience.
With a lot of intelligence who are capable of understanding, planning ahead, who are not impulsive, or if they are, at least they are humble enough to listen to someone who is not as impulsive.
The worst thing that can happen, and that without a doubt, is for our people to go out there on the street and start some random fights.
The system wants nothing more than portray us as unhinged, violent thugs that they can openly persecute.
And also, leaving aside that portrayal, the bad image of us, the system wants nothing more than the lives of our people being lost and saved.
Completely meaningless battles with some random savages, right?
With some hostile invaders that they can import more and more into our countries.
The loss of some of the hostile invaders that you would engage and fight with doesn't really mean anything to the system because they have a lot of them.
They can keep importing them.
It's a bioweapon against us, but they have a lot of that.
So it's not going to really hurt the system that much, right?
And our lives, on the other hand, Are very limited.
Therefore, they are very precious because not only white people as a race is a very tiny minority on the global scene, right?
It's like about 7% at the moment.
It is projected in a couple of decades to go down all the way to 1% on a global scale.
It's only 1% of people.
And now how many of those white people Are aware of the political situation and are motivated to fight for their people.
Maybe 10%?
So we're talking about a fraction of a fraction, right?
We are very limited.
And we need to realize that we are truly the minority, the global minority.
And we are, we people, us being aware racially and when it comes to the Jewish aspect and everything, we are the minority within that minority, right?
So realizing that is very important.
So we are not going to risk our lives senselessly without any meaning.
We are not going to engage in anything that would We can't let ourselves participate in something that doesn't really have any strategy behind it.
I think that's well stated.
And that's something that is required in this movement moving forward is we need discipline.
We're very lacking in discipline, whether it's grown men who act like children or it's just people who are really victims of this system and don't know how to be disciplined.
They haven't learned what it's like to behave correctly from example.
Because you're not seeing it in society, and if you don't grow up in a comfortable or happy nuclear family unit, I can certainly understand why a lot of young men don't have that kind of bred into them.
So we're a little bit over the hour mark, and I do kind of want to keep this as a little bit of a shorter show.
I do have a show in about an hour and a half after this one, and I have no idea what the hell is going on with my Odyssey and all my other...
OBS settings.
By the way, for the folks that are in the chat, I see a couple people asked about that.
We are not live on anything other than Stu Peters Network right now.
I'm having a little bit of trouble with OBS. I'm hoping I can get that hammered out before my next show.
I guess...
We can kind of wrap up a little early here if you have any kind of concluding statements that you wanted to touch upon.
And then I'll conclude as well.
And if you have anything that you wanted to promote yourself, I always want you to be able to promote your channels whenever you come on the show and try to get yourself some more people over in your camp.
Well, maybe a message of encouragement that instead of believing in someone being our hero, just be your own hero and try to put as much work in yourself as possible to become better, just be your own hero and try to put as much work in yourself as possible to which is also very important.
And it's very easy in modern times to not be likable just because we are so addicted from a lot of Technology, right?
Something that makes us less human, something that detaches us from the human contact.
So if, you know, someone is spending hours and hours watching Netflix or playing video games and sitting on the phone always glued, his eyes glued to the phone, then inevitably you will become very socially awkward.
And that's the last thing that we need, because in order to collectivize ourselves, social skills are one of the most important ones to build anything, right?
There are so many people out there who have some right sentiments and who are very smart.
Some of them are highly intelligent.
They have so many interesting things to say.
But sometimes, unfortunately, these people are socially...
Inept.
They can't have a conversation with one another or they can't interact with people.
And therefore, they can't ever build any collective, right?
And that's a big problem and, you know, something that I myself have a lot of sympathy for because obviously...
We all grew up in this Sikh society that makes us culturally very rotten, morally very compromised, and socially retarded.
So this is very important to meet in real life with like-minded people, build those local communities, have a trust with each other, and always seek for people of a good character.
Don't ever let yourself to be compromised morally.
Accept some unacceptable things.
This is the only way we can fight this spiritual and cultural rut and build something meaningful for our people and for our future.
Yeah, I absolutely concur.
The cultural aspect is the hardest one here and the one that I think we have to focus the most on.
Because an unhealthy populace, culturally, spiritually, can't form anything of value moving forward.
We need a healthy cultural body that can bring more culture to more people and it kind of reproduces itself as it moves along throughout society.
So I definitely agree with that.
I know this was a little bit of a shorter discussion than we would typically do, but I do want to make sure I have some time to set up my next show.
I've had to cancel on the next host like two times already, so I do not want to cancel a third time.
I want to make sure that we're doing that show.
I guess I'll let you promote some of your channels, whatever you have out there.
Obviously, you're on Odyssey.
Anything else that you want to promote where people can find your work and they can learn more from you, I would consider you a good philosophical leader in this movement.
You bring a lot of very good, insightful points for people.
Please go ahead and promote yourself, and then we'll close up a little earlier.
Well, thank you for your compliment.
I'm definitely very fresh still in the movement, so I don't expect too much, but for now I do streams on Odyssey.
My nickname is Tonitrus, spelled with a V instead of a U, so it's T-O-N-I-T-R-V-S. And perhaps my most important social media is X, just because there's so much freedom of speech for now, comparatively to the other platforms, even though it's still...
Not 100%, but we gotta use whatever we have right now.
So on Twitter, now known as X, my nickname is Tonitrus Romanus, which is T-O-N-I-T-R-U-S-R-O-M-A-N-U-S. That's where you can find me on Twitter.
And I think that those are two most important platforms for now.
And obviously, I won't have a Rumble account, but I actually stopped uploading any content, I think, the moment I found out that they got you banned on Rumble.
I know that there was some issues like that.
So I may consider returning to Rumble and stream on Rumble as well.
Yeah, I mean, I'm back.
I've been okay.
It hasn't been anything too major since, so I don't think there's a problem over here, at least not for now.
Well, thank you, brother.
I appreciate you coming on, and thank you to the chat room for tuning in with us.
Again, folks, I will be live in an hour and 45 minutes with Jack Brady.
He's an Australian activist.
I'm going to have him on...
I'll be on my Odyssey, my Rumble, my Twitter, and my FTJ account.
So make sure you guys catch the show there.
In the meantime, hang out and I'll see you guys in a little bit.
Alright, thank you folks.
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