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Oct. 31, 2024 - Stew Peters Show
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HALLOWEEN! US "Organ Donor" Industry CAUGHT Harvesting "Dead" Patients Organs while Still Alive
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Happy Halloween!
Hope you're out there having fun tonight.
Well, after you watch my show, of course, because we've got a spooky, freaky Halloween special for you today because we have a doctor in-house, Dr.
Heidi Klessig, that...
is also a whistleblower and she's a former anesthesiologist and she's going to be sharing some horrific stories and evidence about the organ donor industry, the American organ donor industry that so many people have not heard of.
And as it turns out, with more and more stories and evidence coming to light, the U.S. organ donor industry is not so nice at all.
And it isn't so innocuous.
What they do and what they've been known to do is to try to harvest patients' organs when many of them are actually not even truly dead yet, when they're still alive.
How spooky is that?
And I mean, that's not just spooky.
That's very disturbing and evil and sinister.
And it's true.
This isn't just a Something out of a Fright Night movie.
This is real, and it's actually going on with the organ donor industry.
And so many people aren't talking about it.
The media sure as hell won't cover it.
But there's been more stories coming to light.
So Dr.
Heidi Klessig is going to go deep about this.
The U.S. organ donor industry cutting people open, trying to harvest their organs, and rushing people To tell them or their family that they're brain dead, just so that they can begin that process of harvesting their organs while the organs are still fresh, essentially.
So I thought that would be a pretty interesting segment to have tonight for Halloween.
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Well, we already know at this point how corrupt and how sinister the medical industry is and hospitals and doctors and so many personnel that worked in hospitals that we used to trust.
We used to trust hospitals.
We used to trust.
The medical system until a couple years ago.
The pandemic really revealed so much that's actually happening in hospitals and with doctors and truly shined a light on how much corruption there really is and how many doctors are willing to just throw away their oath and throw away their decision to help people and care for people just with a little bit of extra money or some pressure from above.
So we've seen this.
We've seen doctors and hospitals just pushing rampantly the vaccine into people, untested and unproven.
We have seen so many doctors just, again, just ignore their oath to people they're supposedly caring about.
But what's really interesting and that hasn't been talked about much is another whole arm of the hospital industry and the health industry, and that is the organ donor industry.
The organ donation industry is very interesting because so many of us, me included back in the day, would check a little red box When you get your driver's license or you register to vote, that would say, hey, I volunteered to be an organ donor.
But we don't really know what that means, even.
And a lot of us just thought we were doing a good deed after we died.
We'll donate our donors' donation and organs to people.
We didn't really know much of anything, actually.
And truth be told, the truth about the organ donation industry is actually a lot more disturbing than a lot of people think.
And as it turns out, when you, quote, die, pretty soon after that you have your organs harvested and sold.
And the time frame from when you're pronounced dead to when your organs are actually harvested and sold is a lot shorter than many people think.
And there are so many things that go on in this organ donation industry that most people don't know about and the media and the government definitely won't tell us.
So let's shine a light on this today and talk about this and delve deeper into the truth about the organ donation industry and what brain death really actually means with our guest, Dr.
Heidi Klessig, who is a former retired anesthesiologist for many years.
And she wrote a book, a bestselling book called The Brain Death Fallacy.
And she joins us here.
She's an expert on this matter.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Dr.
Klessig, how are you today?
Well, thank you so much, Dionne.
I am very happy to be here.
Thank you.
It's so great to be here.
So tell us a little bit about, first of all, a little bit about your background.
So you were a retired anesthesiologist for many years, and you witnessed a lot of this?
So I trained as an anesthesiologist and I went into private practice where I practiced operating room anesthesia for one year.
And then I realized I missed talking to my patients.
So I went and opened with another partner a pain clinic so I could talk to people in the clinic and spend more time with them and just face-to-face with patients because that was what I enjoyed.
But let me say what I found out as I got to know people better is that Whereas the medical profession has sort of a paternalistic attitude.
I mean, historically, doctor knows best, whatever you say, doc, right?
People, on the other hand, aren't being given proper informed consent about a lot of the things that happen in medicine.
And my background in anesthesiology Really highlighted the organ transplantation industry.
People didn't get the information when they, as you mentioned, went to the Department of Motor Vehicles or wherever to sign up as an organ donor, just exactly what that would mean.
And that lack of informed consent is what really It motivates me and drives me to have this conversation with people.
Because unknown to most patients, doctors, lawyers, scholars, philosophers have been hotly debating for the last 60 years.
Is brain death truly death?
And there are many who actually abstain from anything to do with the transplant industry because it turns out brain death is not biological death.
But a social construct.
You know, most people believe when they sign that donor card that they'll be dead in the same sense as, you know, a dead pet dog or cat, a dead squirrel in the backyard, or someone ready for cremation or burial.
And that's not the case at all.
Brain death was made up in 1968 by 13 men at Harvard Medical School.
Now, there were no tests, no studies, no evidence that these people were dead.
The doctors at Harvard simply decided to redefine certain comatose people as somehow being dead already.
That already doesn't sound like a good start, that it was invented by 13 men, kind of almost in a cloaked dark room.
I want to get back to brain death in just a minute and circle back there.
But first, I think to kind of illustrate this point, I want to talk about a recent case that's come to light, a man named T.J. Hoover.
Who I just saw his video on social media kind of circulating around.
And this was a man who was admitted to the hospital supposedly from a drug overdose.
And he wasn't exhibiting a lot of signs.
He wasn't exhibiting a lot of signs of, you know, being alive or responsive.
And then shortly after, I think after only a day or two of being in the hospital, I believe the doctors pronounced him as brain dead.
He wasn't being responsive for a certain amount of time.
Then they announced to his family that he had signed up to be an organ donor, checked that little box.
And then shortly afterwards, they rushed him to the operating room and apparently was about to operate and harvest his organs in his body.
But he then started exhibiting a lot of signs of being still alive, opening and closing his eyes, apparently even thrashing around and tears coming down his eyes.
And, you know, I want you to tell, elaborate on the story more, but evidently it took a long time for doctors to finally say, hey, this guy is still alive.
Maybe we should stop this process.
And now he's fully alive today and functional and making a great recovery at home.
But, you know, how I guess this story really struck a nerve in me because I couldn't believe how quickly it seemed these doctors had rushed to decide he was dead or brain dead and then operate on him and harvest his organs.
So can you tell us a little bit, elaborate a little bit on the story of T.J. Hoover that sounds like it's straight from a terrible horror film?
Sure.
You know, I'm so glad that this case report of Mr.
Hoover is making the rounds.
I mean, this is in the national media in the U.S. It's in the international media.
I'm getting emails from friends in the Netherlands and France that are hearing about this story.
So it's making a lot of people stop and think and question.
And that's always good.
It's always good to stop, think, question what you've been taught.
So most people think that a brain death diagnosis must need lots of high-tech, fancy equipment, lots of scans, lots of tests.
The answer is actually no.
You know, the most recent 2023 American Academy of Neurology Brain Death Guideline emphasizes that a brain death diagnosis is a bedside exam.
This is something that doctors do with simple equipment, you know, things like a A stick pin, a cotton swab, a syringe of water to shoot in the ear canal, and disconnecting the patient from the ventilator for 10 or 15 minutes to see if they'll try to breathe spontaneously.
In fact, the American Academy of Neurology says that all ancillary tests are without enough sensitivity and specificity.
None of them are 100% sensitive or specific for brain death.
So really, it's a bedside exam that Mr.
Hoover underwent.
I can only presume, because I've only heard the news reports like everyone else, that he had still some lingering medications from his overdose in his system.
And you usually have to leave at least five half-lives of the drug to go by before you can know that that drug's been cleared out of the system.
So I can only presume that they had not given him enough time.
But what you said was absolutely right.
In the past, Our history had been that we would wait to see if someone's heartbeat stopped, to watch if they stopped breathing, and then we'd allow a passage of time.
You know, that's where we get our traditions of the wake, of the vigil.
We would wait to be sure with the passage of time that this person was really dead.
But with the advent of organ harvesting, now The pressure is to declare that person to be somehow dead as quickly as possible while their heart is still beating, while they still have respiration going on, so that their organs are still in very good shape for donation.
Because a dead person, a corpse, of course, their organs begin to break down so quickly.
A corpse cannot donate organs.
It has to be someone who has had very good circulation and oxygenation right up until that time.
Right.
But it sounds to me like they're deciding that pretty quickly.
And, you know, what I read, some of the details were pretty horrifying in this T.J. Hoover case, where it said some of the witnesses, the nurses that were in there in the room with them, He was exhibiting many different signs of being alive still.
And again, thrashing around, opening and closing his eyes, visible tears coming out of his eyes.
And it took apparently a long time for them to finally convince the surgeon that they need to stop this surgery.
This guy is definitely alive.
And it seems to me that the decision makers were from the top, right?
The organ donor company that were procuring, the ones that were in charge of procuring these organs.
And it was so traumatic that these three different hospital workers quit, and then they needed therapy afterwards.
And then they became witnesses in a very important case.
So, I mean, and it makes me wonder, and again, you can correct me on any details if I'm wrong, but this one case came to light with T.J. Hoover, and thankfully doctors stopped this process and he's now alive to share the story, but how many others are like this that are not so lucky, that don't make it out alive, that this actually, this organ harvesting process sealed their fate that we just don't hear about?
So you can kind of answer any of those or all of those at the same time.
You're absolutely right.
No, according to, again, the most recent brain death guideline put out by the American Academy of Neurology, you can be moving when you're brain dead.
They teach the nurses and the staff in brain death school that you can be moving.
And if you read the guideline, it actually admits it can be difficult to tell if a motion is just a reflex or if it's true volitional movement.
So they actually tell the doctors, you know, Ask a friend.
If you're not sure if this motion that you're seeing is life-like enough to be willful, ask a friend.
You know, so I'm gonna just stop a minute.
How many dead people are still moving, right?
It used to be that a brain death diagnosis, they wouldn't allow you to have You don't have any reflexes of any kind, no motion of any kind, but now that's allowed.
It used to be that a brain death diagnosis meant you had a flatline EEG. Now they say you can have EEG, electrical activity in your brain, and still be dead.
This again is not true biological death.
And yes, many other people have survived a brain death diagnosis.
In 1998, Dr.
Alan Shuman, who's been a pediatric neurologist at UCLA Medical School who's retired now, he found 175 cases in the medical literature of people who had been declared brain dead who lived, one ultimately for more than 20 years after that diagnosis.
Now, all of these people were brain dead enough To have been considered for organ harvesting.
But for one reason or another, their families had declined, and then these people went on to continue to live.
Now, there could have been many more, but brain death is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Most of these people, once that diagnosis is given, either have their care withdrawn or become an organ donor very quickly.
So yes, there have been people who have woken up on the table, thankfully in time, but how many don't?
You know, I talked to one of these people personally myself.
Her name is Jennifer Haman.
I talked to her on the phone.
In 1985, doctors gave her the wrong medication that did not interact well with her epilepsy medicine, threw her into a coma.
She remembers lying in the hospital bed and hearing the pat-pat of the doctors and the team's feet come in, and her doctor saying, while she could not move, she could not speak, she had to lay and listen.
The doctor said, this is a sad case, a young woman with two small children, but other than her dead brain, she's in excellent shape.
But her husband is being so unreasonable and will not donate her organs.
Well, Jenny had to listen to all of that.
And you know what?
She was motivated to recover.
And she did recover.
Not only did she walk out of the hospital, she became a nurse so as to give other people better care than what she received.
That's frightening.
And the fact that she heard it all is amazing.
So I get that you're, you know, they want your organs to be as fresh as possible and, you know, blood basically pumping through them so that they can sell them and so that they can give them to an organ recipient and that they're viable.
But how ethical is that really?
Because of course then it's going to make I would think rush to decisions and you know need to just by way of that process need to declare brain death pretty soon and then need to rush it out rush them out to the operating room pretty soon after that too.
I mean what is it within 24 to 48 hours or even sooner than that that they rush them to the OR to get their organs harvested after that?
Yes, that's correct.
In adults, it's 24 hours.
In children, it's 48 hours.
But the interesting thing right now is there is a real disconnect between the way doctors diagnose brain death and U.S. law in our states according to the Uniform Determination of Death Act.
Under the UDDA, the Uniform Determination of Death Act, brain death is required to have the irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain.
But, as I mentioned, the most recent American Academy of Neurology 2023 Brain Death Guideline for Diagnosis for Physicians allows, specifically, explicitly allows brain death to be diagnosed in the presence of partial brain function.
So right now, the way doctors are diagnosing brain death does not comply with the law under the UDDA, which requires Irreversible cessation of all functions of the entire brain.
So I'm here to tell your viewers and listeners, if, God forbid, a loved one in your family gets diagnosed with brain death, I think it's reasonable that you insist that your doctor follow U.S. law.
Do the document have all functions of the entire brain seized, or are they actually just following the 2023 AAN guideline that allows ongoing partial brain function?
How braindead are you if you have ongoing partial brain function?
It's just, it's breathtaking.
Right.
And as a, if I say, if this happened to my husband or my child or something, and they kind of, you know, check that box a long time ago to donate their organs, do I have any say over that?
Can I say, can I veto that and say, look, maybe they checked that box a long time ago, but I disagree.
I want to keep him here or keep him on life support for another week to see if he recovers.
And I still don't agree with the organ, you know, donation process after that.
I mean, can we opt out as somebody who's caregiving for someone in that situation?
Here's another thing most people aren't aware of.
When you sign up to be an organ donor, that is legally binding.
Your family, your health care surrogate, your living will, nothing can override that.
Now, families have gone to court about this, and sometimes they are successful and sometimes they're unsuccessful.
There was a case in Ohio where actually the Organ Procurement Organization Took the case to court because the young man had signed a donor card and they said, that's legally obligated.
We have to comply with his wishes.
Even though his family said, he told us he changed his mind.
He told us he didn't want to do this anymore.
But the court sided in that case with the organ procurement and over the wishes of the family, that man went and had his organs harvested.
Another case in Michigan just this year went the other way.
A young woman's family disputed her desire to donate on her driver's license saying she had changed her mind.
And thankfully the Michigan judge sided with the family.
But you have no real rights spelled out as the family.
Once someone has signed a donor card, that is legally binding and you will have to go to court to dispute it.
That's terrifying.
Really, really, really scary.
And, you know, we can talk all day about this.
There's so many other questions, so we'll have to have you back on again at some point.
But one other question I had is just the industry itself.
So those surgeons that are harvesting the organs of a dead person, let's say in TJ Hoover's case, do they belong to the hospital, typically, or the organ donation company?
And my other question of that is, do they get any kickbacks?
Do they get any payouts for being the one who assigns an organ from somebody to a recipient or anything like that?
Is there any financial incentive for them to rush this process along?
Well, there is an ethical standard that the doctor who declares brain death cannot be the surgeon who's about to make his living with that, right?
So there is supposed to be a separation there for some amount of ethical clarity.
When this happens though, of course, the organ transplant industry, this is how they make their money.
This is how the surgeons get paid.
So they certainly do have an interest in that.
But I do think most of them, it's not just for the money that they do it.
I really think they've bought hook, line, and sinker, this give the gift of life propaganda that is out there.
They really believe that they're helping people.
And again, I am not against I am only against unethical organ donation and transplant.
There are perfectly legitimate ways to donate and receive an organ.
Transplant where both the recipient and the donor, they remain alive after the procedure.
We have a family friend where a mother donated a kidney to her daughter over 20 years ago, and that daughter has done very well.
That's in the best tradition of selfless service.
And you know, you can donate any organ in the body through living donation except a heart.
And the good news about that is there's a totally implantable artificial heart right now in clinical trials.
So people can donate organs, but not through these unethical means of, you know, cloak and dagger with sleight of hand saying comatose people are somehow dead already.
Comatose people are living, vulnerable, brain-injured people who deserve our protection.
They should not be used as means, you know, as objects to be a resource for other people.
Amen.
Well, thank you so much for sharing.
This has been truly enlightening and fascinating and also horrifying, and everybody should know about this.
Tell everybody where they can find your book and also find your website as well.
Sure.
Our website is called respectforhumanlife.com, respectforhumanlife.com.
My book is called The Brain Death Fallacy.
That's available on Amazon or through our website.
Okay, amazing.
The brain death fallacy, definitely checking out.
It is eye-opening and shocking.
All right, thank you so much, Dr.
Heidi Klessig.
We really appreciate you, and we'll have to have you back on again soon.
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Well, as a relatively new parent, hanging around other parents as well and going on play dates sometimes and trips with other parents, I have started looking at things through a different lens.
Than ever before.
And one of those ways that I'm looking at things is how do my decisions affect my child's decision?
And then how is that going to affect them as they get older?
What kind of an adult are they going to grow into?
What kind of a child and a teenager are they going to grow into?
Are they going to be well-behaved and have a positive attitude?
Are they going to be in shape?
Are they going to be unhealthy?
And again, the way that you parent a child and what you sort of give to them to eat, what you feed them both physically and spiritually and emotionally is going to have a big impact on them, but not just them, but the rest of the world.
It's a ripple effect.
How they are, if they're a good Productive, healthy child.
They're going to be a great adult, most likely, and they're going to be a positive influence on the world and the people around them.
So something I've run into lately is the concept of junk food.
And parents, this culture that we're living in, where parents are feeding Their children junk food.
And what I mean by junk food is not just junk food in the form of literal food like candy and Capri Suns and sugary drinks every day.
But that's one of the topics I want to cover too, one part of it.
But the other is kind of spiritual and emotional junk food.
Parents just handing their children laptops and tablets and iPhones for hours and hours on end every day to consume junk media and junk programming.
Or parents just pushing vaccines down their children's throats and in their arms and loading them up with big pharma medication by the time they're five or seven years old.
This kind of junk food is really important to talk about, too.
So I, of course, brought on our My favorite resident doctor, Dr.
Mark Sherwood of Sherwood.tv.
And I want to get his opinion on this culture that we're living in with parents just kind of being lazy and giving their children junk food in these various different forms, the impact that it has on the children and adults as they become adults as well and in their behavior, and really how How serious it is.
Because I don't think a lot of this was not a problem 60 or 70 years ago.
We didn't have these kinds of junk food.
So Dr.
Sherwood, thanks so much for joining us as usual.
How's it going today, first of all?
Hey, it's going really well.
Thanks for having me.
It's a funny subject to bring up.
I wanted to bring it up because it is Halloween today and we are surrounded by junk food, surrounded by candies everywhere.
And it's okay when it's a special treat, right?
When it's Halloween, it's fine to get dressed up and go trick-or-treating.
But tell us about the impact of this as a parent feeding their children junk food.
And I want to start with food first, you know, literal food, and then move on to the other aspects of it.
Well, I think the best way to begin the discussion is the analogy of a tree, a young tree, like a little sapling tree.
We plant that tree in our yard with the hope that it will grow up and create a sturdiness, stability, and shade, right?
We believe that, right?
So we put the tree down, we hold it, we anchor it so the wind won't blow it down, the weather won't destroy it.
We give it good fertilizer so it will have great ability to take root and the nutrients will go up into that tree and then we prune it accordingly so it will grow up and high.
That's a tree.
But let's think about that as a child.
That child is planted in the middle of a parent's life and as a parent I can tell you that's not for the faint of heart.
It's not easy.
But today we are not planting those children well.
They're not growing up strong.
They're growing up very weak and feeble and diseased.
And part of that is, well, it's all inclusive.
What we feed them, how we nurture them, what we don't feed them, and how we don't nurture them.
So it's really all inclusive.
And you did a great job with the intro in this.
Thank you.
Yeah, I believe it is like a tree, and it is all-inclusive.
So let's say that you're a parent.
We'll start with literal food first.
And the kinds of candies we see at Halloween, that's kind of a regular daily thing for parents.
They wake up in the morning, they feed them a bunch of sugary cereal for breakfast, not your cereal.
Not Kingdom Crunch, but, you know, all the terrible sugary cereals we see in most of the grocery aisles.
And then they give them sugary juice drinks during the day and popsicles and more candy.
And everything is just, you know, fake processed or sugary foods throughout the day.
And that's the bulk of that child's diet, starting from when they're old enough to eat, you know, two years old or so.
What kind of impacts, you know, behaviorally, emotionally, mentally, or physically, might that kind of a diet have on a growing child?
Well, you're talking about not just the obesity issues, which we have right now.
Children between 2 and 6, I think that obesity rate is now 12% and climbing.
We know childhood type 2 diabetes is climbing.
We know that the autism rate right now is climbing, predicted to be at 1 and 2 by 2050.
So it's a serious issue on what we're doing.
But let's kind of make this point known that, in fact, we have a government and a country and a whole medical system right now that's absolutely funding it and encouraging it.
We don't live on calories.
We live on nutrients.
A tree, you can't feed that tree just stuff.
You have to feed it stuff that the tree needs to grow.
And we've got to think about our children like this because I am very concerned.
About the lack of cognitive development, the immune system declination that we have right now.
And it's troubling to me because this is not just our future generation.
This is the future of our country.
It's the future of our world.
And as parents, we need to sort of disconnect ourselves with what we have been taught.
And I'm being very direct in that.
We have to completely disconnect from what we thought we knew because it was clearly wrong because we can look at what's happened.
To the population right now.
So it really is a courageous move on the parents' part.
I know you and I have talked about this off camera.
You do this, and I honor you for that because you do what needs to be done, not because it's the popular thing, because it's the right thing.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
And yeah, it's harder to be a parent that does the right thing, I would say.
And it's harder work in a certain way to not just every time your child has a meltdown or they're cranky or they need to be entertained, just throw them a tablet, throw them a laptop, throw them a popsicle.
It is harder to do that in a way, but I believe the rewards are much greater when you do the right thing and when you parent right.
And, you know, for instance, I see a lot of kids that are eating sugary stuff all day long and processed foods all day long, and they do seem to have behavior problems.
They do seem to have ADHD-type symptoms.
Be really, you know, hyper or just have, you know, kind of negative behaviors and temper tantrums and things like that.
So would you say that that is, you know, there is an accurate link there between lots of sugary stuff, processed foods and behavior issues?
There's no question.
There's a process that we have in our body that occurs billions of times per second within every cell.
It's called methylation.
People can look this up.
M-E-T-H-Y-L-A-T-I-O-N. It's a process that does a lot of things, but part of that process includes the creation of neurotransmitters such as serotonin and dopamine.
And to make sure we have those good neurotransmitters, serotonin and dopamine, that create this necessary excitability and necessary calmness, and even the reciprocal GABA, which is inhibitory, we have to have B vitamins and magnesium.
That process has to have those things to work.
And when we have junk food, we don't have that.
So we're running low on serotonin and low on dopamine, which gives us the inability to pay attention.
We're scattered in our thoughts.
We're scattered in our attention.
And hence, we have these increasing diagnoses of ADD, ADHD. And, you know, God didn't make us as his children.
Ritalin deficient.
And so I just don't understand.
It's very troubling to me because we've got a society right now that is trending down a pathway of really ethical, not just moral failure, ethical failure.
Because you look at a child, Deanna, and I'm a former law enforcement guy, you know, years ago before becoming a naturopath, right?
And you can look at this behavior if you If you do something to a child, neglect that child, treat that child, give that child something that creates harm, and you know it's harm, that's called a crime.
And really, it's a harsh way to look at it, but it really is.
If you treated a dog like that and fed dogs, Food that wasn't good for them.
You might get a few views on TikTok and it might go viral, but you're going to get charged for a crime and the SPCA is going to embarrass you.
But if you do a child like that, everybody rewards you for it.
And I don't get that.
Something is fundamentally flawed here.
Yeah, I agree.
I think it should be mandatory to take a parenting class, but also a parenting nutrition class.
What to really feed your kids and how to feed them proper nutrition.
Because most parents don't, or they go for the cheap or lazy alternative, which is just handing them junk food in various forms.
And one of the other forms of junk food that I have a big problem with, personally, is the handing children iPads and iPhones just to keep them quiet or entertained.
And I'm somebody who I think is really important to just intuitively to raise your kids, to be people who enjoy the outdoors, people who enjoy talking to people, having conversations and aware and present with what's around them and in front of them.
And when I go to restaurants or sometimes, you know, beautiful areas where there's animals or there's campsites and stuff, and I just see these little kids with headphones on and a laptop or an iPad and they're just You know, for hours sometimes just hooked on this screen and not even present to the birds, the animals, the nature around them or the people around them.
It makes me really sad.
And I got to think, you know, I know there's all these fake studies out there that say, you know, giving your kids screen time is, you know, there's not going to be any harmful effects on it.
You know, it's It's totally fine.
It's totally normal to give your kids lots of screen time and iPads.
There's no damage.
But intuitively, I've got to believe that's bogus.
Intuitively, I've got to believe that there's a lot of damage lifelong from giving your kids a lot of screen time every day.
And what say you?
Well, you're missing life experiences, right?
You're getting experiences from a computer, a machine, from artificial intelligence, whatever, some program.
But you're missing life experiences.
I mean, there's something about a child picking up a leaf and exploring the texture.
There's something about a child picking up a worm and digging a worm out of the ground and letting it crawl with their hands.
There's something about a child...
Looking up and, you know, watching the wind blow and watching the leaves fall off the trees.
A child fishing and a child out enjoying nature and getting his feet wet and his hands muddy, his or her hands muddy.
That's interacting with nature the way I believe God intended it.
And further, when you put the screen time band-aid on it just so a kid will quote-unquote shut up, You are inhibiting that person's ability to communicate, not just right then, but in the future.
We have a world right now, Deanna, that really is not communicative.
No one wants to listen.
They want to talk.
And why is that?
Because all they've been doing is being talked to.
It's a one-way conversation.
We're teaching them.
What you put in a child, what infiltrates them will fill them and will become them.
And so we got to think about the progression there.
And so I'm not against, you know, using sunscreen time for learning, aptitude, learning capabilities.
We have to have that because that is the future, right?
But it's not everything.
It should be limited.
It should be controlled and we should have more time outdoors, exploring nature, just learning how to exist and communicate and really deal with problems.
Even when a child is not communicative like that, you know, you put the headphones on or the pad in front of them, are we inhibiting them from an opportunity to learn?
Potentially, I think so.
I agree very much with that because we're having this iPad kid culture with kids that really don't know how to talk.
They don't address adults who are in the room or anybody who's in the room.
They just zone out on their headphones and on their iPads.
And they just don't engage with life around them.
They're living life, what you said, they're living this false life through a reality screen.
What's even more disturbing is what happens when this meta world becomes mainstream that they're talking about.
It's like a whole very realistic world, basically like virtual reality, that's going to be pushed on us and very heavily Pressuring kids to join that.
And I think, you know, the last leg of this are video games.
You know, again, there's these bogus liberal studies that say, oh, video games have no harmful effects on kids.
But I got to think, if you're playing hours and hours of video games every day, You know, acting through a character on a screen and acting out things you wouldn't normally do in real life, hopefully, like shooting guns or stealing cars and everything, I've got to believe that that gets into your psyche.
I've got to believe that that molds and shapes a child into a different kind of adult or with a different personality than they might have been if they developed their God-given personality without video games.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
The murderous slant of our video games today and the sexual nature of those video games has not just made it okay.
Occasionally, it's normalized it.
And it's desensitized young people, kids, etc., to the reality of it.
And I'm very concerned about that.
And all these little points, you know, the food, the screen time, the games...
I think junk is probably the understatement there, way to describe that.
Yeah, it's probably more like damaging or deadly.
It's indoctrinating.
And you're developing a population here that can't function in the reality of life.
And I hope that maybe, you know, there's a parent listening out there, if one person...
One person, one parent makes the changes right now.
Remember, the kids aren't.
Taste and preferences and all these things are not genetic.
They are taught.
And if we can teach a kid early, train a child up in the way they should go, as the Bible says in Proverbs 20, verse 6, they will not depart from it.
You plant them in good ground and train them right.
And are they going to have trouble?
Sure, everybody does.
But at least have a foundation of strength to rely on.
Amen.
Absolutely.
And that's where, you know, having strong parents, strong families, and a strong faith comes in too.
Because if your focus is on faith and family, then your focus is not typically on computer games and iPad and a false reality that's created.
Yeah, that's very true.
And I'm very concerned about where we're going.
And my hope, my prayer, my sincerity behind this is that somebody's listening right now that resonated with and they say they're going to make changes.
And of course, there's answers out there.
This is not a pitch for Kingdom Crunch, but there are answers out there like that.
You don't have to miss the taste.
Of certain foods.
There are alternatives out there that thankfully have been created now to sort of solve this problem, partially at least.
Agree, yes.
And your Kingdom Crunch is very good, by the way.
My maverick loves it and he eats all the flavors a lot just out of the bowl.
So that shameless plug for Kingdom Crunch.
But yes, you know, you don't have to sacrifice flavor or taste for healthiness.
Good point.
So, Dr.
Sherwood, always great to have you.
Always enlightening.
Happy Halloween, everybody.
Stay safe out there and have fun.
This isn't meant to be raining on your parade.
I want everybody to have fun today.
Dr.
Sherwood, where can everybody find you and follow you?
Then go to sherwood.tv forward slash shots.
And I'm with you.
Have fun on Halloween.
Enjoy the decorations, dressing up, have fun.
But let it be the rarity, not the norm.
Yeah, amen.
Thank you so much.
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Sherwood.
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