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Oct. 2, 2024 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Walz A Friend To School Shooters, Vance Makes Play For Normie Voter
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Yep.
How are you feeling about the enthusiasm?
Your name and how are you feeling?
My name is Rose and I'm feeling great.
This is going to be a great debate.
Oh, sorry, I touched it there.
I'm so enthusiastic.
Walls is going to do so well.
I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect.
And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that.
I've become friends with school shooters.
I've seen it.
Look, the NRA... There is no doubt, in my mind, however Governor Walz did in terms of sincerity, that Vance won this debate.
Does Governor Walz have a problem with the truth?
No.
They were talking, at one point Vance wanted to correct something about how Haitians got into this country.
And he was right, and the moderators wouldn't let him correct it.
It's very interesting.
But at the beginning, the two issues driving the campaign right now are Harris has a big deficit on the economy, Harris has a big deficit on immigration, and Republicans were happy tonight and Democrats a little bit nervous that on those two issues, Vance carried it.
J.D. Vance is much more experienced at this, at public speaking, at defending himself, at pivoting.
It's the audacity.
I agree with you that we're in year nine, and no one knows how to cover the audacity.
The audacity is that someone should have said, stop it, stop, stop.
Are you effing kidding me?
And they should have dropped that F-bomb, right?
I mean, they should have just...
This is a debate.
This may be the only chance people have to see the difference.
And I actually think if you're a woman, that might be the worst moment J.D. Vance had because he was going to mansplain right over that mute button.
And again, I don't pretend to know how everyone will react to this.
I think that a lot of women in positions of authority that should command respect just by virtue of that dynamic will see themselves and some dude that disrespected them and talked over.
I mean, there was a moment like that with the vice presidential in the Harris-Pence debate.
Thank you, Governor.
And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.
Senator, we have so much to get to.
Margaret, the rules were that you guys were going to fact check, and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.
That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10 years, That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership.
Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
We have so much to get to, Senator.
When they were talking, at one point, Vans wanted to correct something about how Haitians got into this country.
And he was right.
And the moderators wouldn't let him correct it.
It's very interesting.
Thank you, Senator.
We have so much to get to.
We're going to turn out of the economy.
Thank you.
Margaret, the rules were that you guys were going to fact check.
And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
Thank you, Senator.
That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership.
Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
We have so much to get to, Senator.
Those laws have been on the books since 1990.
Thank you, gentlemen.
The CBT app has not been on the books since 1990.
Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
Well, there you have it.
And look, Vance was right.
Honestly, Tim, I think you've got a tough job here.
Because you've got to play whack-a-mole.
You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did.
You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did.
And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens.
I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt So that she could put food on the table in our household.
I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford.
We can do so much better.
To all of you watching, we can get back to an America that's affordable again.
We just gotta get back to common sense economic principles.
Welcome to this Tuesday or Wednesday edition of the Millstone Report.
My name is Paul Harrell.
Can't do the show without you.
You guys know the drill.
So yeah, last night...
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
You know...
Man, you know, it wasn't perfect because there's no such thing, but my goodness, my goodness, what a disastrous, disastrous vice presidential debate performance by the Minnesota governor, Tim Walz.
I don't think you could get any worse than that.
His facial expressions, the man looked like he was in fear for his life, Not to mention the gaffes.
He called himself a knucklehead.
It's like debate 101.
You don't want to be self-deprecating.
That's not going to endear somebody to you.
You want to be in command and control.
We're talking about the President of the United States here.
We're not talking about a human resources position in a job interview.
We're talking about a job interview for the President of the United States.
Dear in the headlights, in fear of his life, called himself a knucklehead, said he was friends with school shooters, and also was clearly lying.
Tim Walz was clearly lying when he gave his explanation on China and getting the debate.
When he said, I misspoke.
But I learned a lot about governance.
I learned a lot about governance when I spent time in China.
The whole thing was, again, a complete and total disaster.
And so we have a lot of takes to get to today.
Also going to talk a little bit about Appalachia.
There are right now, and we'll talk about this later in the show, but there are right now, you know, brave men who are, you know, going, traversing over mountains and rivers trying to save their fellow man, their fellow countrymen, trying to get them supplies.
We also have disturbing stories of The rescue coordinators, or I guess, in this case, a fire chief not allowing average people to help, even people with great resources like their own personal helicopters.
Unbelievable people being threatened with arrest because they're wanting to go help, but the authorities, for whatever reason, are not wanting them to.
It's really disturbing what's going on in Appalachia and that entire region still needs our prayers and we need good men to step up and do good things.
It's very much so.
It's what we need.
Alright, so back to the debate.
A few takes here.
This meme was certainly spreading last night.
By the way, I had a great time doing the debate coverage.
We did live debate coverage last night.
We were up, you know, pretty late, at least for my taste.
Live debate coverage via the National File, nationalfile.com, their X account.
Had a great time.
I want to thank the people that watched.
I want to thank Noel Fritch, Mike Lauber, as well as Ivan Raikland was there the majority of the time as well.
The Deep State Marauder, as he calls himself.
Derek Evans joined in post-debate coverage.
So we had a good time.
You know, when somebody says that they're a friend to school shooters in real time, which, by the way, I missed.
I was zoned out.
I was running the stream and everything else, and I actually missed when he said it.
It was Ivan Raikland that caught it and was like, did he just say he's a friend to school shooters?
So anyway, this was a good meme for those of you who are listening on Spotify or Apple.
It's Barack Obama, very in deep thought, saying that I need a VP dumber than me.
And then you have Joe Biden, obviously, was his VP. Joe Biden saying the same thing, I need a VP dumber than me.
Then, of course, you get Kamala Harris, who is dumber than Joe, somehow.
And then Kamala's like, I need a VP dumber than me.
And then you have this, you have Tim Waltz, who looks ridiculous.
Who looks absolutely ridiculous.
War Clandestine over on X says J.D. Vance just massacred Tim Waltz.
Waltz looked like a deer in the headlights while Vance was cool, calm, and collected.
Vance is operating on a mental plane far above Waltz.
I'll say that.
I have some criticisms for Vance.
I'm going to get to here in a minute.
But he was in control the entire time.
That's one thing that's perfectly clear to me.
J.D. Vance was in control of the debate the entire time.
And that part where he fact-checked the fact-checkers, he fact-checked the female news anchors, was brilliant.
I thought it was absolutely brilliant.
He says, then you add Waltz's gaffes about befriending school shooters, learning to govern in China, the horrible optics from some of the weird faces he was making, the contradictions, the lies, the head-scratching answers.
It's hard to describe this as anything but a colossal catastrophe for the Harris campaign.
Vance comes off as understanding and genuine.
He was sharp, direct, concise, and stayed even keel, displaying his great leadership qualities and addressing the core problems Americans are actually concerned about it.
was a nine-day difference standing next to Walt's.
Hopefully his performance will translate into more support for Trump, particularly in the Rust Belt battleground states that Vance was tasked with appealing to.
What a performance from J.D. Vance.
Yeah, and so...
It was obvious to me, and I talked a little bit about this last night, this was definitely a good cop, bad cop scenario.
Now, whether it works or not, I don't know.
Trump essentially being thought of as the bad cop here, so we're going to try to appeal to normies.
We're going to try to appeal to independent voters, obviously assuming that we can overcome the inevitable fraud that will be attempted on election night.
I get it.
But this is at least their play, right?
J.D. Vance wants to come across as the reasonable one.
J.D. Vance wants to come across as the good cop.
We're asking the American people for this job.
We're asking.
And so here we come.
And that's why, I mean, even on the life issue, and these are my criticisms, and there's more people we're going to get to that criticized him on this.
J.D. Vance, look, I get they took the national abortion ban out of the Republican Party platform.
I understand that, right?
As a pro-lifer slash abolitionist or whatever those terms even mean now, because I know there's infighting or whatever, but as somebody who wants abortion to end and wants it criminalized, we may have different ideas about what that looks like or how we get there, but as somebody who wants that, You know, we've become accustomed to this election cycle of being thrown under the bus, right?
We're being thrown under the bus all the time now.
And so every debate where the pro-life issue is brought up, you just have to, if you're a pro-lifer or an abolitionist, you just kind of hold your breath, roll your eyes.
Some people are, you know, so upset about it that they're saying, hey, look, we're not even going to vote.
Anyway, this is the debate.
Okay.
For me, it's an easy choice because of my children, you know, my posterity, right?
The lives of our kids versus a Kamala Harris administration versus a Trump administration, from what we can tell, would be way worse under a Kamala Harris administration.
Anyway, back to the life issue.
It seems like J.D. Vance was even weaker than Trump.
I know the whole party has been weakened by taking it out, the national abortion ban and everything else, and we're seeing the pro-life movement become the pro-choice movement, but Vance's answers on life on the abortion issue were weak.
I mean, it was a display of weakness.
You can't get around it, but it was clearly a tactical one.
Because even on the ninth month, like...
Donald Trump, in all of his debates, and any time he addresses the question, because he always says it, he always talks about the ninth month, the ninth month, right?
And how barbaric.
And I think J.D. Vance did bring up barbarism at some point in the debate.
But it was just interesting how J.D. Vance was less confrontational over the abortion issue than Donald Trump was.
And Donald Trump, in my opinion, isn't confrontational enough because, again, the official position is, hey, we have to let the purple-haired feminists in blue states murder their children if we want to win national elections.
And that's just completely unacceptable.
So on that issue, you know, that's just the part where it's cringe for people who actually believe that abortion is murder.
It's cringe for people who believe actually in reality that life does begin at conception and that it's precious.
And at the same time, as we talked about last night on the live stream...
At the same time, the pro-life abolitionist movement is 0-7 in statewide referendums across the country since the reversal of Roe v.
Wade.
And one of those states is J.D. Vance's state that he represents as a United States Senator, Ohio, where they voted to enshrine child sacrifice into their Constitution.
And...
In large part, that happened because a lot of Christians stayed home and did not go and vote, unfortunately.
So anyway, I'm going to get back to the pro-life issue here in a minute.
A few more takes on this.
William Wolfe.
Dear the headlights, Tim Wolfe, the face your kid makes when it wasn't just gas.
Yes, that's right.
There are memes out there where they're insinuating that not only did Tim Walz look like a deer in the headlights, he also looked like he had an accident in his pants.
That's right.
And then, this was the best meme to come out of this.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Where J.D. Vance is looking at the camera with a smirk while Tim Waltz is literally hanging himself.
Whatever he said.
Is this where he said he was a knucklehead?
Is this where he said he's friends with school shooters?
Is this where he said that he learned how to govern in China while visiting China?
Who knows?
But yeah, this certainly is a new meme format that was going viral all over the place last night.
And let's just take a moment, actually, right now.
We'll come back to Zachary Garris and how he tried to manipulate, how Waltz tried to, you know, manipulate the Bible.
Here is Tim Waltz explaining, I would say, lying.
It was very clear Tim Waltz was lying to the entire country with this exchange.
Governor Walz.
You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989.
But Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year.
Can you explain that discrepancy?
Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small rural Nebraska, a town of 400, a town that you rode your bike with your buddies till the streetlights come on, and I'm proud of that service.
I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms, and then I used the GI Bill to become a teacher, passionate about it, a young teacher.
My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of 89 to travel to China, 35 years ago, be able to do that.
I came back home and then started a program to take young people there.
We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, we would take dancers, and we would go back and forth to China.
The issue for that was to try and learn.
Now look, my community knows who I am.
They saw where I was at.
Look, I will be the first to tell you, I have poured my heart into my community.
I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect.
And I'm a knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that.
Those same people elected me to Congress for 12 years.
And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people working on things like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans benefits.
And then the people of Minnesota were able to elect me to governor twice.
So look, my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for the people, to make sure that I get this right.
I will say more than anything, Many times I will talk a lot.
I will get caught up in the rhetoric.
But being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.
Is that now a legitimate excuse for lying?
Well, I got caught up in the rhetoric of the time.
I got caught up in the rhetoric surrounding the issue.
That's now the new definition for getting caught lying.
I hear the critiques of this.
I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us.
I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising Xi Jinping about COVID. And I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.
So this is about trying to understand the world.
It's about trying to do the best you can for your community.
And then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand.
So this was at least a missed opportunity where Vance could have come in and talked about all of the trips that he has taken to China.
And tying him with the CCP. But he didn't do that.
And what it is.
My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.
Governor, just to follow up on that, the question was, can you explain the discrepancy?
All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.
So I will just...
That's what I've said.
So I was in...
Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went in.
And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance.
What?
He reminds me of the guy in that movie Office Space trying to explain to justify his job, you know?
I deal with the software engineers so the customers don't have to.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah, it just got worse and worse from there.
And eventually he tried to say that Matthew 25, I'm sorry, wrong cut here.
Eventually he tried to say that Matthew 25, about the least of these, has to do with...
The Haitian immigrants.
So Zachary Garris writes on X, Waltz mentioned his faith and then he quoted Matthew 25 about the least of these in reference to immigrants.
Did he get that from a Gospel Coalition article?
He probably did, as a matter of fact.
Of course, Smash Bails reminds us that Matthew 25 is about Christians and how they treat other believers.
Matthew 25, in fact, is not about the infinite flow of migrants into this country illegally and our responsibility to have to take care of them at the expense of actual Americans.
So Matthew 25 is not about globalism and having a country without borders.
Although, if you listen to somebody like Tim Walz or Woke Christians, they would try to tell you otherwise.
So, interestingly here, homosexual Richard Grinnell, who worked in the Trump administration, and he is still for Trump, he claims, and this is why it was interesting to me...
That the left essentially knows that they had a terrible night last night.
So homosexual Richard Grinnell says, So it's a far cry from what we played for you at the top of the hour.
At the top of the hour we started the show, MSNBC interviews this man dressed up like a woman asking the head of the College Democrats, they had high hopes.
So the LGBTQRSTLNE would you like to buy Val Enclave?
They had high hopes.
You're the president of the College Democrats.
Yep, that's it.
How do you feel about the enthusiasm?
Yes, I'm the president of the call.
My name is Rose, and I'm feeling great.
This is going to be a great debate.
Oh, sorry, I touched it there.
I'm so enthusiastic.
Walls is going to do so well.
All right, I guess we're going to have to wait and see.
I really appreciate talking to you guys, Rachel.
Walsh is going to do so well, so well.
Well, you know, he didn't.
He said he's friends with school shooters, which, by the way, there's got to be like a Randy Newman, you got a friend in me spoof out there at this point, right?
I mean, school shooters, they do.
School shooters have a friend in Walsh that is, according to his own words, according to his own words, What else we got?
After Waltz's extremely bizarre panicked answer to the question about China, I went from 30 trips, that's odd but plausible I guess, to I'm 99% certain he has been a Chinese sleeper agent for decades, explaining why someone so unimpressive could advance so far.
You know, that's a very interesting point.
That's a very interesting point.
This is by 8th Century Woodchipper at BonifaceOption.com.
Is this Isker?
Is that who this is?
Yeah, I think so.
So, anyway, it's fascinating because...
He lists his credentials.
He says that Minnesotans elected him to Congress for, what, over a decade?
And then he gets elected to the governor's office two times.
And this guy is clearly an imbecile, clearly a buffoon.
And so, yeah, I mean, how does someone so unimpressive continue to get re-elected?
Maybe they got help, right?
Maybe they have help.
Here is Lizzie.
Lizzie on X says this, and this is kind of back to the pro-life.
This is back to the criticism of really just in general, and it has to be said.
She writes, Vance was likable, classy, and well-spoken.
Some would say he is a good man.
Unfortunately, he threw babies under the bus, and that makes him a weak man, because any man who does not defend little tiny babies is weak.
He won the debate.
He did well, but he's weak.
I would venture to say he's absolutely pro-life, but too afraid to stand up to men for the sake of God.
If what I said angers you, the truth still stands.
That was cowardice, and a Christian should easily admit that.
Political strategy should never trump God's law if you profess Christ.
Hashtag debate.
So that's one take out there.
Obviously, we also have abortion abolitionist Ben Zieseloff saying Christians should be speaking with a united voice this morning to condemn both major parties for their promotion of baby murder.
But many conservative Christians are only willing to condemn the Democrats, even as the Republicans also endorse child sacrifice.
You can't get around it.
Both major political parties in America now...
Our pro-choice.
That is now the thing.
So, you know, what do you do as a Christian that wants to see abortion ended?
Well, you know, the cards that we've been given are you've got to make sure that your state becomes an abolitionist state.
And right now, as I mentioned earlier, it's not looking too good.
0 for 7 in a lot of these races.
So, at this point, if a national abortion ban doesn't seem feasible and it doesn't seem practical like it's going to happen, then you've got to put your nose to the grindstone and try to save as many children as you can at a state-by-state level.
And that goes for Christian red states in the South as well as a state like California.
There's Got to be an effort made.
What else do we have here?
Yeah, and I get it.
I mean, you're not...
It's kind of crazy.
Really, the whole thing flies in the face of a United States of America.
How can you be united if one state thinks it's murder and the other state thinks it's health care, right?
Yeah, a divided house cannot stand.
I don't...
I'm not ignorant of this, okay?
So there was one point about freedom of speech.
That was, I think, probably the best moment.
Do I have that moment about censorship?
Let me see here.
Hang on.
I do have it.
Andrew Torba, fact check, you actually can yell fire in a crowded theater.
Schneck v.
United States, where this comes from, was overturned by the Brandenburg v.
Ohio ruling in 1969.
Torben writes, obviously I don't recommend doing so, yelling fire in a crowded theater.
They'll charge you with disturbing the peace or something, but it is protected speech in the First Amendment.
Obviously Tim Walsh didn't know this.
Now this came...
As a result of Vance standing up against, and I do think I have this, but I didn't pull it, but at least I can find censorship.
He stood up, and this was, I think, his best moment.
Vance's best moment where he talked about censorship, and I've got it right here.
I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about.
It is the threat of censorship.
It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.
It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.
And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation.
I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.
So that led to an exchange where Waltz says, well, you know, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
And obviously Waltz was wrong about that.
Of course, the moderators...
The female moderators weren't going to fact check in that instance.
Although I am surprised.
I am surprised, I will say, that those moderators did ask Walt about those trips to China.
That was, say what you want to, a rare act of journalism.
And he handled it absolutely, I think, the worst that you could possibly handle it.
We're going to take a quick break.
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I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about.
It is the threat of censorship.
It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.
It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.
And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation.
I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.
Let's turn now to Hurricane Helene.
The storm could become one of the deadliest on record.
More than 160 people are dead.
Okay, before we get to that, welcome back to the show.
Thank you so much for being with us.
There is so much in this clip.
This was the second round of questions when they got to the hurricane.
And they blamed the hurricane on climate change.
They blamed the hurricane on climate change.
Look at the hatred.
I'm sorry.
Look at the hatred behind Nora O'Donnell's eyes.
Look at this.
Let's turn now to Hurricane Helene.
The storm could become one of the deadliest on record.
More than 160 people are...
Okay, so at first it's just, okay, you're kind of a robot.
You're an NPC journalist.
Okay, now keep watching.
...dead and hundreds more are missing.
Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and more deadly because of the historic rainfall.
All right, so she's doing a good job.
She's...
She's doing a good job disseminating the propaganda, disseminating these opinions as incontrovertible fact because we worship scientists who get paid to do studies that show that the earth and the climate are changing in the way that the political elite want them to because all of their answers, all of the answers to climate change is communism, according to them.
But now, keep watching.
Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling, 7 in 10 Americans.
That's where it is.
That's where it is.
And the eyes, they change.
So when she actually addresses Senator Vance, something happens, in my opinion, and it just looks like Rage.
Stronger and more deadly because of the historic rainfall.
Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling...
Senator Vance, I'm now in authority.
Senator Vance, I'm now your teacher and you will listen to me.
Seven in ten Americans and more than 60 percent of Republicans under the age of 45 favor the U.S. taking steps to try and reduce climate change.
Senator, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact of climate change?
I'm telling you, the gyneocracy was on display last night.
I'll give you two minutes.
Sure.
So first of all, let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy.
I just saw today actually a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child, and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives.
And I'm sure Governor Walz joins me.
And saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them, and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible, and then of course afterwards to help the people in those communities rebuild.
I mean, these are communities that I love.
Some of them I know very personally in Appalachia, all across the Southeast.
They need their government to do their job, and I commit that when Donald Trump is president again, the government will put the citizens of this country first when they suffer from a disaster.
Now, Nora, you asked about climate change.
I think this is a very important issue.
Look, a lot of people are justifiably worried about all these crazy weather patterns.
I think it's important for us, first of all, to say, Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water.
We want the environment to be cleaner and safer.
But one of the things that I've noticed some of our Democratic friends talking a lot about is a concern about carbon emissions, this idea that carbon emissions drives all of the climate change.
Well, let's just say that's true.
Just for the sake of argument, so we're not arguing about weird science, let's just say that's true.
Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do?
The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America.
But see, and I get with the game he's playing here, okay, for the sake of argument, let's say that carbon is driving temperature, although there's people that say the opposite.
Or there's people that say that that's not true.
He's saying, wouldn't you want to bring...
If that's the case, we have the regulations in this country already over our energy to where we produce it.
We use those resources.
We use those natural resources, but we have regulations to where we try to control the emissions.
So we need to bring the manufacturing.
We need to bring the energy production back here.
But that's not what they're...
They don't care about that, right?
Their answer to this...
This hoax of a problem, I'm sorry, that's essentially what it is, because their answers to this are communism.
Their answers to this are Marxism.
Their answers to this are, you know what, you shouldn't be allowed to keep your, like Obama said back in the day, you're not going to be allowed to put your thermostat on 71, you know?
You shouldn't be doing that.
They don't want us to have the freedom to live comfortably.
They want everybody living in equal squalor except for the oligarchy.
I mean, it's literally communism.
Those are the answers.
The answers to climate change from the left are communism.
You can go read Megan Basham's book, Shepherds for Sale, and really get a feel for how this sick ideology has infiltrated the church where people have tried to make it a gospel issue.
You look at other countries around the world that have implemented these policies.
I don't know, like a cap-and-trade policy.
Remember that?
And you see that it's actually caused, in some cases, Sri Lanka, their entire economy collapsed because of it.
It's caused poverty in Europe.
With the farmers there, and in other countries, it's caused you can't even get antibiotics into babies.
You've got babies who need medicine, and they can't have it.
Babies are born underweight because of the disastrous climate.
Trying to combat climate change actually makes people poorer.
And all that's going on, and over here in America, we have woke pastors that are trying to tell everybody that In order to love your neighbor, you need to support climate change policies that are rooted in communism that have already destroyed the lives of people halfway across the world.
It's pretty sick and inverted, if you ask me.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent.
Let's listen to the rest of his answer.
We're the cleanest economy in the entire world.
What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to?
More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world.
And when I say that, I mean...
The amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output.
So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people.
And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite.
And I follow the argument.
I get it.
You know, accepting their argument, you know, just to point out the big flaws in it.
I get it.
But, you know, these people don't operate that way.
They don't care about it.
But back to the hurricane.
CBS News, last night, Nora O'Donnell and Margaret, whatever her name is, they blamed the hurricane on climate change.
You know how preposterous that is?
Especially if you want to tie it to carbon.
And I've seen other people do it.
Back in the day...
I can't, I'm trying to, so the EPA, this was back under the Obama administration.
Former Arkansas Senator Mark Pryor was in office, and there was terrible tornadoes that swept through my state of Arkansas.
Two of them, two communities, is absolutely destroyed.
And that happened, and about a week later, and I could be getting this wrong, but about a week later, The EPA and the head of the EPA that obviously Democrat Senator Mark Pryor voted to confirm or something.
The head of the EPA put out a report saying, this was a long time ago, maybe back in 2014 or 2013, Saying that, hey, look, because of carbon and because of climate change, there's going to be more drastic weather.
And I remember thinking to myself, that is so preposterous.
If you think about it, do you really think the people right now who are sitting around, who've just lost their homes, are thinking to themselves and actually believing it, my gee golly, if I wouldn't have driven that SUV all those years, my house would still be here?
If I only would have gotten that electric car, which, by the way, also requires a ton of fossil fuels in order to actually get that battery with the whole process involved, it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's insane.
These people have been, their lives have been destroyed, and we have scientists and journalists that are actually promoting a narrative.
When it comes down to it, if you drove less, you'd still have a home.
That is insane.
That is psychotic.
And yet, that's the science that they are trying to advance.
Pastor Brian Sauvé has this tweet, ex-post, whatever you want to call it now.
He says, the stories of brave men crossing rivers and mountains to bring aid to their neighbors is heartening.
This is the energizing spirit that makes America great.
Self-giving Christian love.
So Brian Sauvé is essentially, you know, his account, he's seen the other, you know, stories of people trying to help other people in Appalachia as it's been devastated by this hurricane.
These people's lives are upside down.
There's absolutely terrible stories about bodies in trees, coffins.
I've seen videos of the coffins rushing downriver because, you know, cemeteries are supposed to be built on high ground, and yet this flood happened and has, you know, destroyed the memorial sites of the graves, these desecrated graves.
However, at the same time, we're also hearing horrible reports that the authorities are preventing average citizens from trying to help their neighbor.
This is the world we live in and it's absolutely sick.
We are now hearing stories again where average people are not being allowed to help their neighbors.
So I have a story on that right here from Queenstown News.
Is that what it is?
Rescue effort thwarted.
There it is right there.
Here's one story over at Firehouse.
And it says, South Carolina pilots rescue of flood victims thwarted by arrest threat.
While rescue crews gave him radio frequencies and welcomed the effort at Lake Lure, a fire official reportedly threatened to arrest him if he didn't leave.
And then the local affiliate there in Carolina, Queen City News, Filed this report.
Back to the mountains where remarkable stories of survival are now being shared days after Helene wreaked havoc in North Carolina.
But one Pageland man's efforts to help are now the source of controversy.
He flew his own chopper on his own dime to help stranded victims.
But that man says he abandoned his rescue missions after a fire official threatened to have him thrown in jail.
Well, that man now wants answers and turned to Queen City News Chief Investigator Jody Barr to help figure out what went wrong here.
This is the original post that I was reading when I decided to go up and help.
It's a long post, but she's saying that her kids and family and animals are trapped.
No way out, no supplies, and the only way in or out is accessible by helicopter.
Limited sales service and no water since Friday morning.
I thought I have a helicopter and Maybe I can help.
Jordan Sidham piled food and water into his helicopter Saturday and headed up toward Banner Elk.
The only way through, a mountain gap in Lake Lure.
This is the mountain valley that you would have to fly to to get to Black Mountain where we were escorting people out.
This is a mountain range and this is a mountain range.
The only place to fly through with bad visibility, low cloud coverage is Lake Lure.
The cries for help from people stranded without food, water or electricity hit social media soon after the flooding last Friday.
My parents are stuck there.
Their address is Banner Elk.
They are in the first condo.
If you receive this, please give me a call back.
Thank you.
Siddham's phone started lighting up on Saturday with people begging for help.
I could hear the desperation in her voice.
This is multiple phone calls I've received like this, voicemails, text messages, and you could hear people desperate for help.
Siddham and his son rescued four people on Saturday and spent the night in a nearby pilot's lounge, then decided to fly again Sunday morning.
I spoke with my son, which is my co-pilot.
I said, hey, do you want to go back out and try to help today?
And his response was, there's so many messages, I don't think we can't not go help.
Siddham and his son were headed up to Black Mountain.
Flight tracking shows no flight restrictions in place Saturday or Sunday morning when Siddham flew through the Lake Lure Gap.
But that was all about to change.
The Siddham spotted an older couple waiting for help, then landed in what's left of their driveway.
I want you to let me get in.
You step out and go out.
Help her in.
Put her bag in the back.
Get her strapped in.
I'm going to take her down and come back.
I'll take him.
I'll come back and then I'll get you, okay?
I originally left my son, co-pilot, on the side of the mountain.
It was kind of unstable, so I didn't want to put more weight in the helicopter to lift back off.
So I left my son with the other victim, and I was just going to take one person down at the time.
And you could hear me in the video talking through with the victims and with my son what we're going to do.
Three minutes away, Siddham spotted a group of rescuers just down the river.
He landed and found someone in charge.
I told him my background experience, law enforcement, firefighting, Pilot, he immediately started helping with coordination.
He gave me radio frequencies to coordinate with them on, set up a landing area for me to come back with the other victim, and in the middle of the whole conversation and then blocking the road off, I was greeted by the, at that time I didn't know, but Lake Lure Fire Chief or Assistant Chief maybe, and he shut down the whole operation.
So at that point there was I felt like the conversation wasn't going any further.
And again, he asked me to leave, and I said, hey, I have no problem getting out of your area.
If that's what you want us to do, we'll leave.
No issue.
At that point, I asked him, you know, what was the reason I had to leave them there?
And he said, again, you're interfering with my operation.
I just need you to get out of the area.
I said, sir, I don't know where you were trained at, but I know how my training is, and I'm not going to leave personnel behind.
I'm going back to get my copilot.
He said, if you turn around and go back up the mountain, you're going to be arrested.
I said, well, sir, I'm going back to get my copilot.
I don't know what to tell you.
And he said, I'm letting you know.
And at that point, he waved for two law enforcement officers to come over and told me that again.
If I go back up the mountain, I would be arrested.
He flew the three-minute trip back, picked up his son, and left the woman's husband behind.
I'm sure he was flooded with emotions and trying to rescue other people, and I just felt that it was best at the time to leave.
So I did follow his instructions, and I had a conversation with the female victim before I left, apologizing and explaining.
She was standing there.
She heard the whole conversation, and they were both very, very surprised, very upset.
The husband, as I was leaving off of the side of the mountain, at that point, separated from his wife.
He was upset.
I can only imagine.
Cinnamon is nearly 1,400 flight hours, turned his chopper around and headed back to South Carolina, passing people waving for help along the way.
As I was actually leaving to go back to get my son, the original chief or captain that I spoke to, his crew and himself, they came back over and said, hey, man, we can't tell you to go get the victim.
We can't even ask you to go get the victim, but we can tell you if you come back with the victim, we'll have you a designated landing spot, and they won't We'll make sure they don't come over here.
So there was no flight restriction when you went in?
No, no flight restriction when I went in.
It went in place 20 or 30 minutes after the confrontation with Mr.
.
You feel like that was coincidental or do you think that that was...
I don't think it can be coincidental when there has not been one in place the day before doing rescue operations, the night of, the morning of, that took place after our altercation.
I think there would have never been a TFR put in place had we not had that conversation.
If I had to do it over again, I would have stopped and I would have rescued as many people until they decided they were going to arrest me.
Well, for now, we've chosen not to name that Lake Lure fire official because communications in and out of that town are still difficult.
We want to include his side in this story, and if and when he responds to our messages, we will include that.
The good news is I saw a video of a Coast Guard helicopter landing in Lake Lure this morning, so hopefully some of those mountain rescues are underway today.
From Pageland, Jody Barr, Queen City News.
I mean, you know, you hate to focus on the negative.
You know, you hate to...
Because, you know, you do have...
In spite of all...
It's just so frustrating because there are still people who are needing help.
There are people who are trying to get them help.
Average citizens.
And they're continuing to do it.
And in some cases, though, they're doing it against the advice or the will of people in positions of authority.
And you just got to ask yourself why.
Look, and I get it.
In some circumstances, you could have well-meaning people that get themselves into trouble and create more work.
But in this case, where you have so many people suffering and the reports are absolutely horrendous of what's going on, It's really sad that we are in this business now.
We're to the point where we are so adverse to community.
It seems like we worship authority in a way that we shouldn't, or maybe people in positions of authority think they should be worshipped.
Maybe that's a better way to put it.
Turning the guy away.
He's got a personal helicopter.
He's got 1,400 hours of flying time, and you're not going to let him go back?
And I can't believe the guy.
I'm sorry.
I can't believe he complied.
Arrest me or not, I'm going to go get my co-pilot and I'm going to get the husband.
At the very least.
If not, going to continue to keep helping people.
When you have all these people in desperate need and you can do something about it.
That's the definition of tyranny, by the way.
Think about how messed up this is.
You have the ability...
You have the ability and the power to go help these people.
The authorities say, don't help them.
We want to help them, if that's even true.
Don't help them or we'll arrest you.
The guy's in a helicopter.
I'd make him have to chase me down, right?
It's like, well, I have a helicopter, so I guess when you guys get a helicopter, let me know.
And I get why the guy's full of regret now.
I bet that guy is full of regret.
His name is Jordan Sadum.
Yeah, so Jordan Sadum woke up Saturday morning.
He saw a Facebook post.
Tens of thousands of people were commenting on sharing and a family was stranded on the mountain in Banner Elk, North Carolina.
He went to help, but he only helped the wife.
He left the husband there.
Because some fire chief with an ego threatened to arrest him, and we don't know which fire chief it was.
Because he says, I don't know if I was talking, initially he was welcomed by one of the fire chiefs, maybe the assistant fire chief.
It sounds like the assistant fire chief probably was the good guy, and then the, you know, the...
The main fire chief, he comes in, you know, this is my territory.
I mean, how are you going to do that?
Why are you going to turn away a helicopter from somebody trying to help?
Who's given these people the instructions to not allow people to go in there and help other people?
What is going on?
We'll continue our coverage of this.
If we find anything else, sound off in the comments.
Let me know what you think.
The last thing that I wanted to get to, kind of wrapping up the debate, Naomi Wolf, who we interviewed a few weeks ago, Just back on the J.D. Vance-Tim Waltz debate, she writes, and she's a former Democrat, strategist, so this is her take, which is why I thought it was interesting.
She says, Vance won over innumerable undecideds and swing voters, and maybe even many Democrats last night, while Waltz seemed like a baffled and provincial Muppet.
Well, you know, I mean, I don't know about that.
As I said, the abortion stuff was very difficult to sit through, but it has.
It's nothing new in terms it's been difficult to sit through ever since Trump came out and said what he said back before that Arizona Supreme Court decision dropped.
Anyway, that's all the time that we have for today.
My name is Paul Harrell, and this is the Millstone Report.
Follow me on Twitter, at RealPaulHarrell, and unless I'm providentially hindered, we will see you guys tomorrow.
Have a great night.
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