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Sept. 26, 2024 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: The Unprotected Class: Anti-White Racism Is TEARING America Apart
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Thank you.
This is the Millstone Report and my name is Paul Harrell and as always we cannot do this show without you watching, listening.
Every single day you guys know the drill.
So yesterday on the last half of the program I highlighted the controversy that was sparked over on X. There was an X post written by Dr.
Stephen Wolfe.
Stephen Wolfe is the author of the Now, I mean, do we really even have to ask the question why people were outraged by this?
Well, the knee-jerk reaction was really from the Big Eva The big evangelicals, the medieval, they were upset that Wolf was talking about, dare I say it, white people.
And the idea that a Christian would be called to love those in his own household more than a stranger on the street or, I don't know, a third world Haitian whose mass migration to Springfield, Ohio actually makes the daily lives of the Native Americans Christian writer Samuel Say took issue with the tweet from Dr.
Wolf and responded, quote, over other people he's right but if he means Christianity commands me to prefer people with my skin color over other people he's shamefully wrong but these peculiarly vague tweets have become the norm for Mr.
Wolf end quote and this led to a back and forth Between Samuel Say and Christian Pastor Brian Sauvé.
That was really a good thread, and you should read all of it if you have the time.
We read some of it on the show yesterday, again in the last half of the show.
But in my opinion, the thread pretty much culminated with this last post written by somebody on Twitter called Unsafe Media.
Quote, you both did a great job modeling rich discourse in an area that could very easily have been misunderstood.
It goes on, if I'm not mistaken, Samuel will say, you seem worried about the potential excess of this turning into something like racial partiality or racial bigotry.
And if I'm not mistaken, Brian Sauvé and the Ogden Boys are simply pointing out that there has been a push upon white Westerners to view themselves wholly abstract and utterly disconnected from their national and even ethnic lineage.
That is not true of any other people.
No one criticizes Jewish Christians for calling themselves Messianic Jews and reaching out to their people, nor black pastors for focusing on black communities, etc.
But in a culture that openly mocks and disdains whites, it's okay for white men to say that while they hold animosity towards no men and love the church Catholic or universal, they place a special priority on those they are closest to and are most directly connected to from family to geography to even ethnicity.
Unless we are contending that it is wrong for all Christians of all ethnicities to have a special love of their country or kinsmen, So,
I mean, in my opinion, that's a truthful take for sure.
But what I want to know...
Why are we here?
How did we get here?
How did we get to a place where the factory default setting, if you're a white person, is self-loathing and self-hatred?
Well, that's where former United States Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Interior and Senior Fellow at the Claremont Institute, Jeremy Carl, comes in.
Jeremy has written a book called The Unprotected Class.
It was released back in April.
The Unprotected Class How Anti-White Racism is Tearing America Apart.
And he joins us now to share more about this book and a very timely topic.
Jeremy, welcome to the Millstone Report.
Thanks so much for coming on.
Thanks so much for having me, Paul.
Well, anyway, so it's kind of the spat that I highlighted is admittedly on Twitter.
It's very specific in a very niche, you know, what I call Christian X, where, you know, we have different Christians talking about these things.
I followed it, and I'm very familiar with the folks there, so I thought it was very interesting.
Perfect.
So you're familiar with it.
Well, I mean, it's a microcosm of everything that's going on, I think, you know, at a much larger scale.
So how did we get here?
Yeah, it's an interesting question.
And, you know, I myself am PCA, and so I've, you know, participated a little bit in some of these debates.
But I think it is interesting to kind of look at the origin and then kind of the types of debate that are allowed today.
I thought the last poster kind of that you had there put it quite correctly that We do need to be careful about sins of partiality, but on the other hand, if we're told that it's sinful to like our kith and kin, we also have gone astray.
And I feel like sometimes the big Eva types are really telling us that that's where we need to go, which is very much the message of the world.
And that kind of gets back to your original question, which is, how did we get here?
Well, I think we got here under a variety of ways, but it really began to start...
with the civil rights revolution and there were a lot of good things that actually came out of that revolution but I think over time it kind of metastasized to the point where we really became an institutionally anti-white country and that was both formally and informally and that's really what my book was about including an entire chapter I spend on anti-whiteness within the church.
That's fantastic to know.
It really is.
I'm glad you spent an entire chapter on that because we also have...
Recently, you've got Megan Basham's book, Shepherds for Sale, that I think highlights a lot more than just the race stuff.
But it really does seem like Marxist political thought.
There's been an effort to carve out a safe space for Marxist political thought within the church.
And what's interesting about that is I feel like maybe 10 years ago, maybe an evangelical leader who was promoted nationally, It was kind of a default setting that they were going to be right of center, but now the default setting is that they're left of center.
Yeah.
Well, and Megan's a good friend, and we talked about the book quite a lot before it came out, and I thought it was a terrific book.
And yeah, I think that that's right.
I think, unfortunately, the church is not exempt from the world, and this shouldn't hopefully shock anybody who's in the church.
And the world is putting a lot of pressures for us to have Politically correct views, not just on race, which was only one subject that Megan covered in her book, but on any number of other subjects.
And there's a lot of folks who are most concerned with how many bodies I can get in the pews rather than what I'm teaching them once they're there.
And they've gone astray in my view.
And again, I think the discourse on race in some parts of the evangelical church I do spend some time attacking the mainline Protestants as well in the book for some of their stuff, but that's almost like shooting fish in a barrel.
They've left behind biblical Christianity in so many ways.
The stuff that they say is shocking that anybody claiming to be a Christian would make these types of claims.
But it shouldn't really be surprising.
Whereas the fact that fellow evangelicals, we should have a little bit of a higher standard for making these claims is unfortunately a little more disturbing.
Yeah, you're right.
It is certainly fish in the barrel.
We, at least once a week, we take some mainline, you know, pass tricks with, you know, Rainbow Shaw on and we give out rhetorical millstones here on the program, you know, for any of the children that are potentially in the audience.
The title of your book, though, The Unprotected Class, I think that's a fantastic title.
There's this word that I keep seeing on Christian X called de-racinization.
Yeah, I think that's what it's called, de-racinization.
It's this idea that white people can't think of themselves as a race, I guess, or as...
Are you familiar with this term?
Yeah, deracination.
I mean, it's a sort of scholarly term.
Right.
I mean, it's the notion that a racial identity is uniquely forbidden from one group of people in this case, which would be white people.
And by the way, I'm not saying that because I think that we should have white identity politics.
I do think that Christians' primary identification should be as Christians, but it is to say that we also exist in a political world, and if we notice that every group is able to identify as a racial or ethnic group and use that for political and legal advantage, and whites are not, that should give us A little bit of pause and it really is that double standard that I'm pursuing in the book.
And of course, we can have a long and lengthy kind of fruitful discussion about kind of what whiteness is and what is white and even the salience of that.
And the reality is that race, like a lot of these categories, it is a biological category, but it's also a social category.
So it is, when the left says that race is socialized and they kind of make these things, I say, yeah, that's absolutely right.
But that doesn't take away from the fact that we have affirmative action, for example, where illegally you're checking a box, and if you check that white box, you're going to be under legal disadvantage in any number of different processes, and that maybe that's not really how we want to run a multi-ethnic democracy.
Yeah, I definitely think so.
Those are certainly interesting points.
You think there's an effort on the left to essentially tie whiteness with Christianity?
You know, you hear about the dangers of potential white nationalism, or, and they'll put, you know, white Christian nationalism.
Is the word, and I know the phrase, some people aren't comfortable with the phrase, Christian nationalist, but I think from a Leftist standpoint, if you believe in Jesus and you vote, they're going to call you Christian nationalists.
It doesn't really matter at this point.
Is there an effort to link the idea of whiteness with also Christianity?
I'm glad you asked this question.
There's two different ways that I look at this particular question.
The first is...
Is this an attack, just a sort of sublimated attack on Christianity, the attack on whiteness?
And I would say in that particular case, no.
That's actually, for a lot of people who are uncomfortable, I've noticed particularly in the church, for talking about anti-whiteness, they want to say, well, this is just an attack on Christians, and they're just using white as a code word.
Now, it is absolutely true that if we can step back for a second and use the The left's term of intersectionality, that if you have the intersectional identities of white, straight, Christian, and male, you are absolutely at the bottom of the stack and they will absolutely go after you that much more viciously.
So in that sense, it is certainly true that if you are a professing Christian, you are We're going to be particularly targeted by the left.
On the other hand, what I show in the book, particularly in the chapter on the church, is that we have these sorts of things happening, again, even in the evangelical church.
And if it were strictly an attack on Christians or Christianity, you would see this outside the church, but not inside the church.
And in fact, unfortunately, we do see sometimes that the call is coming from inside the house, as they say in the horror movies.
Yeah.
You know, it's interesting as you're sitting there, if you're talking about being at the bottom of the barrel.
So I remember years ago, the South Park creators, you know, the cartoon South Park, they came out with a video game.
And if you wanted to increase the difficulty level of the video game, the shade of your skin got darker and darker and darker.
So it was this idea that, you know, if you're...
I wish I could have used that.
I was not familiar with that.
I'm not a video game guy.
Yeah, well, I guess I'm a recovering...
I'm not really a video game guy much either.
I don't have the time.
Yeah, but I was born in 1984, so I had my fair share of video games.
I never played that one, but I heard that.
But in reality, though, we're now getting to the point where it's reversed, right?
Because of what you just said, right?
It's like if you're building a video game character, and you're going to say, okay, I'm white...
compiling these levels of discrimination.
And we're not just talking, and it's everywhere, right?
It's obviously the government.
It's every corporation.
You're going to hear the same thing.
It's the same propaganda.
Yeah, absolutely.
And let me just kind of walk through.
I mean, in the book, I sort of break it out.
I sort of start with an introduction.
And then I basically have 12 different subject matter chapters looking at everything from the church to Hollywood to the business world to health care to the military, where I'm kind of documenting anti-white policies in each of these kind of areas.
And then I kind of wound up kind of why did we get here and what are we going to I'm not suggesting, of course, that there are not other forms of Racism and discrimination besides anti-white discrimination in America in 2024.
My claim is simply that, much less that we did not have anti-minority discrimination in America's past, my claim is simply that in the year 2024, the most politically salient and important form of discrimination is anti-white discrimination and rather than kind of dwelling on forms of discrimination that are less important and in fact in many ways reversed now, We should focus on the type of discrimination that's really being practiced today.
I think that's really good.
For far too long have claimed victimhood even as they fueled a toxic brand of tribal chauvinism.
Interesting.
And I know obviously you've got, you know, quotes from Tucker Carlson as well about how great this book is.
And we see on the cover there, you know, you have this kill all whites.
Is that a real photo?
Yeah.
It is.
It's a real photo of a real bridge in Southern California, I believe.
It was maybe 10 years ago or something like that.
A particular piece of graffiti was put up there.
That's just unbelievable.
Well, it actually isn't.
It's totally believable now, right?
We see it everywhere.
Let me ask you this.
We were talking at the beginning about the church and That Twitter spat, right?
There's people having these conversations.
I kind of feel like, the way I characterize it, I think that there are two different kinds of Christians right now.
Actual Christians.
I think there are those who have come to the conclusion, or something like this conclusion, that If things keep going the way they are, they're going to put Christians in boxcars, right?
I mean, the world is just getting so wicked, they're just going to become more and more allergic, right?
And then there's Christians that haven't come to that conclusion.
And so the Christians, I feel like, that have not come to that conclusion, they look at the ones of us, like myself, who have...
And they think that we're maybe idolizing politics or they think that we're crazy and that sort of thing.
What are your thoughts on that?
Do you agree with that or is that way off base?
I think that that's a large bit of it.
And it's just, I mean, this is a split in the Christian world that I think we also see reflected to some degree in the secular politics on the right as well.
There are those of us who, I might not quite be a boxcar guy, but those who certainly think that things are going to get very, very bad for the right.
And in fact, they already are for anybody who's certainly a professing Christian and take that seriously for anybody who You know, maintains traditional views on any number of social issues or even economic issues increasingly.
I do think that some of us kind of know what time it is, and for those who don't, It is sort of an increasingly fractious struggle.
I also do think that's almost the most complimentary thing I can say about our internal opponents is that I think maybe they genuinely don't see the risk that's out there.
The less complimentary thing is just that there's always been Christians, because we're inherently sinful, who are happy to kind of look for the praise of the world in what we do and kind of Judge ourselves based on that rather than on whether we're kind of being faithful to what God tells us to do.
Certainly the folks in Big Eva are hewing much more closely to what the state line is and the left's line and the government line.
And my simple question would be, not that we should be reflexively oppositional on our side of the fence, but that, you know, as Christians, we need to ask ourselves, I mean, if the world, which we know is not necessarily always Being run in the short term by our team is telling you something and you are,
if it's really pushing a message and you are perfectly in line with that message, you need to ask yourself, you know, is the behavior I'm really engaging in godly or not?
And I think in many, many cases you're going to find that unsurprisingly the message that the world is sending is not the one that we should be sending.
I'm curious if, you know, you wrote this book, The Unprotected Class.
How was this received?
And, you know, you said you attend a PCA church.
I attend a PCA church.
I'm just curious, how was this received?
Did you get any pushback at all from writing a book like this?
You mentioned earlier that sometimes when you talk about the anti-white racism that's out there, sometimes people don't even want to acknowledge that it exists.
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely.
The pushback, and again, just given that, I mean, when I served in the government, and I'd written about this before, I mean, I was attacked in the Washington Post and elsewhere for things, and these weren't things that I'd written under, you know, a non-identities on Twitter.
This was all stuff that I was at the Hoover Institution at Stanford and writing under my own name, and don't take back any of that, but I had been...
And so I thought that I would get potentially really, really brutal sort of pushback.
And I did get some from the left, I mean, and kind of from the typical quarters that you would expect.
I did get that.
But one thing that I was really pleased about, and I'd like to think that it was a testament to To the quality of the book, which has a five-star average on Amazon.
I've got over, I think, 250 online reviews now of the book.
I really did get largely great support from the right on that.
It doesn't mean that everybody Agreed with everything in it, but that everyone understood that it was a sincerely written book, that it was a book written with a sincere patriotism and with a sincere brotherliness, and that the things that I were saying were both sincere and that they were well supported by the facts.
And I've had this conversation not just with a whole group of Christians from Eric Metaxas to Stephen Wolf to up and down the line, but also a lot of folks in the secular world from pretty much every background you but also a lot of folks in the secular world from pretty
In fact, the last podcast I actually did interviewing on the book was three right of center African-Americans, and we had a really good and sincere discussion about the things in that book.
And so it's really been hopeful to me that I do think that the discourse, at least on the right, is opening where we can have this conversation on this, even though the establishment doesn't want us to.
And I'd like to think that my book in and of itself has Played some significant role in opening up that discourse, and so that's been really gratifying.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's something that we have to talk about, right?
And it really kind of goes – the reason it's such a timely topic to just – we just have to acknowledge that this exists out there is because – I mean, there's gaslighting going on, right?
I mean, we have – we're literally being invaded, okay, at the southern border by third – what I call third-world barbarian hordes, which, by the way, you know, in history – When you've spilled as much innocent blood as America, that tends to be kind of the natural way of things.
You get kind of conquered by other countries.
That's historically kind of a...
But we hear terms like the Great Replacement Theory, and we're told that that is somehow...
You know, a total conspiracy theory or the people that are noticing this demographic replacement or this demographic demise or whatever are somehow white nationalists, right?
So you can't even say what we're all seeing with our own eyes, regardless of how you want to label it.
We're all seeing it and we're being gaslit constantly.
No, I think that's absolutely right.
We are being gaslit and the sort of great replacement sort of migration that we have going on.
And I actually thought Vivek Ramaswamy, not a Christian, but a very effective conservative advocate, said it really nicely on the campaign trail, which he said, The Great Replacement is not a conspiracy theory, it's a simple statement of the Democrats' immigration policy, and the notion that Christian brotherhood requires us to treat as our quote-unquote neighbor this abstract group of Haitians, by the way, most of whom not really Christian in any meaningful way.
I don't want to be judgmental, but if you understand Haitian religious practice, I mean, I'm sure there are some Orthodox Catholic Christians among them, but a lot of them kind of with voodoo practices and such mixed with Christianity in a way that's frankly heretical.
Telling us that we not just have to have compassion for them, which of course we should, but that we need to somehow prefer them over our existing American citizens who are right there with us, who may be our literal neighbors, and that this is somehow what Christianity demands is just, to me, a total misreading of Christian morals, Christian ethics.
And again, that's what the regime is asking us to do.
And by the way, the regime that's asking us to do it, it's just trying to manipulate.
It's not that they actually believe in anything to do with Christianity at all.
They're just trying to manipulate the very sincere concern that Christians should have for everybody for their own nefarious end.
That's what we have going on.
Russell Moore said in the wake of the Haitian controversy about what's really going on in Springfield, he said that it's satanic.
Those of us essentially noticing what's going on is satanic.
What happened to Russell Moore?
I was talking to a pastor friend the other day who said, I don't know what happened to him.
I mean, he used to give a good sermon, but what's he doing?
What is this?
Well, I think unfortunately, and I say this as somebody who's in the political world every day and has those considerations in the things that I say, and so I'm very aware of it.
He's just been totally captured by the world, as best I can tell.
And when you're captured by the world, You think exclusively in terms of political friends and enemies.
And at this point, he is kind of appropriately, I mean, when I say cast out, he's been cast out, but we would obviously welcome him back if he repents of some of the things that he's said and done recently from our circles.
And so he's reached out and he's like, well, now I have these new Political friends, and I'm going to ignore the fact that most of them aren't really Christians at all.
And that's kind of where I'm looking at things.
And I mean, I think you see at a more extreme level, even this with David French, who, you know, has just been totally captured by this type of politics.
It's ironic because they say they turn around and they say, oh, well, we're the ones Being political, and I can only speak for myself, but no, I actually try to be very thoughtful about these sorts of questions, and I'm not simply suggesting that anything that the right, secular right, would say or do as regards immigration or any other policy is necessarily what Christ would command us to do.
But in fact, I do think just as a matter of practice right now that we are much more, our side is much more squarely In tune with what Christian practice ought to be, not that we're perfect, but that we are in general.
And that's the standard that I want to use.
And I think when you kind of talk to average parishioners or just people attending congregations, you do kind of get that sense of that's where people are upon not just kind of being bigots, but upon real reflection about what their duties as Christians are.
That's exactly right.
And I want to give you the last word, but I just want to kind of echo what you're saying.
I think the Russell Moores and the Big Eva types like him, I think they exist to sanitize regime rhetoric.
Rick Warren in 2008 went to Davos, World Economic Forum, and was like...
We've got the business, we've got the government, but we need to utilize the churches across the world and the trust that the congregation has with their pastors.
Of course, we saw that on steroids, I think, during COVID. We have Christians that go to church one day a week, and then the six days of the week, they're sent out.
And I think so much of the rhetoric...
Some of these Big Eva pastors, I think they exist to pacify congregations, so they sit on their hands.
They don't want to make an idol out of politics.
It's the idea that if a Christian cares deeply about a political issue, It's probably an idol, which is preposterous.
And I think people are waking up.
I'm glad you mentioned the average pew sitter.
I talk about that a lot.
And Megan Basham, again, talked about that a lot.
You know, this gut feeling that you've had, that something's off.
Let me confirm to you that you are correct.
There is something off.
There is something wrong.
And I want to applaud your book, The Unprotected Class.
I want to urge people to go to get it.
I'll give you the last word and tell people where they can get your book.
Yeah, so you can get it where fine books are sold hopefully at your retail store, but if not that, the easiest way to do it and also at a nice discount off retail is to go get it on Amazon or Barnes& Noble and you can read a bunch of reviews there.
And I'd just make a final push for folks.
I think it's only like 20 bucks on Amazon right now.
Buying it will not make me rich if you know anything about the book world, but what it does do is it sends a message to publishers that, as you can imagine, this book was actually a little bit difficult to get published by a mainstream publisher, and I was fortunate that I did get a good mainstream publisher In Regnery Skyhorse to sort of stand behind it.
But it sends a message to publishers that these are conversations that readers want to have and want to participate in and want to follow.
And so it really does make a difference.
And then if you like it, feel free to tell your pastor or other people in your church or just kind of do anything you can to get the word out.
And that's why I wrote the book.
And I've just been really gratified that at least it's made some steps in that direction.
Jeremy Carl, thank you, sir.
It's a pleasure to meet you.
I'm glad to make the acquaintance, and I'd love to have you on again soon.
Absolutely.
Thanks so much, Paul.
It's a pleasure to have this conversation.
Yes, sir.
Absolutely.
God bless.
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All right, folks, folks, welcome back to the program.
This is the Milstone Report.
As always, great to have you with us.
That was a fantastic interview by Jeremy Corral and his book, The Unprotected Class, How Anti-White Racism is Tearing America Apart.
I think that's obviously true at this point.
Here we are.
And it's great.
It was fantastic.
I did not fully expect Jeremy to To understand the nice little Christian X argument that I was highlighting, but he was following it and he knew it and it's great, so everything worked out.
Excuse me.
Alright, so this is what I want to get to.
We touched on this earlier in the week, but the assassination attempts of Donald Trump.
I mean, the first one, the second one, come on.
I mean, what we should be talking about right now When it comes to the assassination attempts of Donald Trump is JFK. We should be talking about JFK. We should be talking about the fact that the United States government wanted JFK dead and played a significant role in making that happen.
We should be talking about the fact that they still won't release all of the JFK papers even though everybody who was affiliated or associated with murdering JFK in our government is dead.
Tucker Carlson has talked many times about how Mike Pompeo essentially threatened him with talking about the fact that the US government killed JFK. That's what we should be talking about.
We should be talking about the Trump assassination attempts in that context and instead we're talking about Iran.
We're talking about the idea that Iran and yes Yes.
In the Trump administration, there was an assassination of Soleimani, the big Iranian general there.
Yeah, yeah, that happened.
That happened.
100% it happened.
And, you know, people might say, well, that's why Iran wants to kill.
Killing, assassinating President Trump makes, even with the death of Soleimani, makes absolutely no sense.
Absolutely no sense.
And the only way it could possibly be sold...
To the American people is making sense, is to assume that the people who are in charge of the country of Iran are just like totally madman nuts, crazy, insane, psychopaths.
That's exactly how they try to paint Putin.
Putin's not a psychopath, right?
Right?
Putin...
It's not necessarily benign, but he's not a psycho, but that's what they try to do.
Oh, he's just a psychopath.
Don't listen to anything he says.
And that's what they have to do.
They have to paint Iran as totally crazy, totally nuts, totally willing to literally just suicide their entire civilization.
If the Iranians assassinated Donald Trump, it would mean the end of the elites who are running that country.
It would mean they would get Muammar Gaddafi.
You don't think they know that?
And look, I know Iran is no Libya, and Iran is no Iraq.
I mean, Iran has got much better forces and everything else than they do, and obviously they're backed by Russia.
There's nobody at the top of Iran that thinks that a direct confrontation with the United States means that Iran is going to come out on top and the leaders are going to maintain power and everything else.
It's literally the last thing they would do.
And yet, that's all.
I decided yesterday afternoon, I decided to turn on my radio, my talk radio, and listen to talk radio, listen to a little bit of Sean Hannity, listen to the top of Sean Hannity's show, and all he was talking about was Iran, Iran, Iran.
And yes, Trump is now at least publicly buying into this narrative that, hey, Iran wants to kill me.
Okay.
But let's actually look into who is giving him this information, shall we?
If we go over online here, pull this up, fly this in.
Okay, so clandestine.
He says this.
Interesting.
Biden's DNI, Director of National Intelligence.
Biden's Director of National Intelligence briefed Trump on alleged Iranian attempts to assassinate him.
Clandestine says, color me skeptical.
The intelligence community never release anything unless it benefits them.
Sounds like they are attempting to blame Iran for CIA slash Democrat attempts to assassinate Trump.
They would never willingly release this intelligence to Trump.
They want him dead.
My guess is they are seeking to deceive the public and blaming Iran to prevent the masses from connecting the dots and blaming the Dems slash CIA.
This is not to say I support Iran, but this reeks of classic CIA subterfuge.
And given that the intelligence community never tells us the truth about anything, I strongly doubt they abruptly grew some integrity, not buying it.
And here's the deal.
If Trump is actually believing these intel briefings, He has certainly not learned his lesson from his first administration and the transition, where they constantly set him up and then leak details of meetings.
For, you know, negative CNN headlines because, you know, the intel apparatus then leaks to the media and everything else.
But here's the Trump campaign statement on ongoing threats from Iran terror regime.
They say, Intelligence officials have identified that these continued and coordinated attacks have heightened in the past few months, and law enforcement officials across all agencies are working to ensure President Trump is protected and the election is free from interference.
Make no mistake, the terror regime in Iran loves the weakness of Kamala Harris and is terrified of strength and resolve of President Trump.
He will let nothing stop him or get in his way to fight for the American people and to make America great again.
Stephen Chung, Trump campaign communications rate.
Now look, that very well may be true at the end, but I'm just telling you right now, I don't even buy that.
I don't buy that.
You're telling me that Iran doesn't know.
Even though the Trump administration killed Soleimani, you're telling me that Iran does not know that Donald Trump's...
The most conspicuous thing, the most conspicuous aspect of Donald Trump's presidency that stands out from all other presidencies in our modern time is that he didn't start another foreign war?
Do you really think...
And I could be wrong here.
And if I am, I'll admit it.
I could be wrong.
I seriously doubt that the people at the top of the Iranian regime think that a Trump presidency means that war is more likely.
And look, I get, I understand Israel's, AIPAC's influence on both sides of the aisle, and it's pretty much uniform.
I understand that.
But the fact that he resisted the military-industrial complex in several distinct instances in his first term, I have to think that Iran knows that.
There was one specific instance that actually specifically had to do with Iran when Trump called off an attack at the last minute.
Now, before we go any further, though, I want to tell you this.
Joe Biden's DNI, Director of National Intelligence, briefed Trump on alleged Iranian attempts to assassinate him.
Who is that?
According to Julie Kelly, over on X, she has a picture here.
You see the woman in yellow, the woman with the yellow square around her.
She writes, the woman in the yellow square is Avril Haines, to the left of Susan Rice.
To the right is current Deputy AG Lisa Monaco.
Rice called Haines and Monaco her, quote, sisters, end quote.
Haines is now Biden's DNI. So this girl with the yellow square around her face is Joe Biden's DNI. She briefed Trump yesterday on Iranian threats against him.
Okay, so here's what's so insane to me.
Is the Trump campaign accepting these intel briefings?
And look, who knows?
People say, oh, maybe it's playing 5D chess.
Whatever.
I don't know.
I don't know for a fact.
But look, the fact that we're now going forward with the narrative that the intel communities and the different are somehow...
Well, they are monolithic in that they hate Trump.
Our country is not monolithic.
Our country is divided.
Our country is, in many cases, if they had assassinated Trump, we've talked about the possibility of what would have happened, Civil War, and that sort of thing.
I guess the idea that the intelligence agencies have a firm grasp on neutral truth is preposterous.
But that's what we're going with, right?
They've literally lied to Trump during the transition.
They lied to Trump during his time in office.
They framed him for treason.
And now Biden's DNI, who worked for Obama...
Is briefing the Trump campaign and Trump on the Iranian threat and Trump believes it?
Or at least he says he believes it.
Julie Kelly goes on.
In her first act as Biden DNI, Haynes issued a report on the heightened threat of domestic violent extremists, i.e.
Trump supporters, in March of 2021.
She cited January 6.
Her predictions never materialized.
She worked directly for John Brennan.
She attended his secret meetings in the White House in 2016 to conduct or concoct the Russian collusion hoax.
That's who briefed Trump.
The person who is saying...
That Iran is trying to assassinate Trump is a lifelong deep-stater who is part of the cabal that framed Trump for treason and set this whole thing up.
This is all a bunch of lies.
It's total nonsense to think that they're telling the truth now.
And yet you've got mainstream conservatives like Sean Hannity, who no doubt have Lindsey Graham waiting in the wings, ready to come and talk, we need to go bomb Iran's oil fields, This whole thing is a setup.
This whole thing is a lie.
It's a lie, okay?
The government of Iran did not get the Secret Service to stand down.
The government of Iran did not allow some guy to walk around the Butler, Pennsylvania rally brandishing a rifle The government of Iran didn't leave the roof unsecured.
Okay?
Like, this is where the focus needs to be.
And by the way, I actually think, personally, that the Secret Service aspect of all this, the Secret Service failures, while they did fail, I think even that's a red herring.
I think the Secret Service is going to be scapegoated here in the end, and we're really not going to get to the bottom of who was helping crooks.
But at this point, they're creating layers of red herrings.
And now this latest one is Iran, which just so happens to help the urge, the lobbying for a fresh war in the Middle East.
Oh, they're telling the truth to the Trump campaign now.
Oh, the Trump campaign, all of a sudden.
I mean, you know, that's huge news.
That is huge news.
That should be, I mean, that's a Trump campaign statement right there.
In a surprising turn of events, the intelligence community is now being truthful with Donald Trump, actually sharing with him accurate information about his wealth.
Like, that would be huge news.
Oh my goodness.
People are not buying this.
They're not buying this at all.
And they shouldn't.
They shouldn't buy it.
Here's what I was talking about earlier.
You don't think Iran remembers this?
June 21st of 2019.
Put yourself back in.
Where were you in 2019?
What were you doing?
Probably enjoying life.
Not thinking that a year from June of 2019 that you were going to be in the midst of a pandemic and the world would be on lockdown.
Anyway, Headline.
National, this is NPR, says Trump says he called off strike on Iran because he didn't see it as proportionate.
This was the quote I was looking for a few days ago when I was just trying to find this thing kind of at the last minute.
President Trump says he called off a Thursday strike on Iran.
Ordered as retaliation for Iran's having shot down a U.S. drone.
This was huge news.
There was a U.S. drone.
America claimed it was in international space.
Iran claimed it was in Iranian space.
They shot down an unmanned United States drone.
That was the news.
Trump said he canceled the attack shortly before it was to begin, though, after he was told 150 people very likely would be killed.
We were cocked and loaded to retaliate last night on three different sites when I asked how many will die, Trump said in a series of tweets on Friday.
Upon hearing the projected death toll, Trump said he decided that the strike was not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone.
The president said he put a halt to the operation 10 minutes before the strike was set to begin.
Trump's pullback was first reported by the New York Times, which described how Even as late as 7 p.m.
Eastern Time on Thursday, military and diplomatic officials were still expecting an attack to proceed.
Planes were in the air and ships were in position, but no missiles had been fired when word came to stand down, the Times reported, citing multiple senior Trump administration officials.
However, Trump told NBC News on Friday that planes were not yet in the air when he decided against the retaliatory strike.
But they would have been pretty soon.
And things would have happened to a point where you wouldn't turn back.
You couldn't turn back.
In an interview with Meet the Press host Chuck Todd, the president said that about 30 minutes before the operation was to take place, his national security team came to him and asked for his final decision.
Quote, I said, I want to know something before you go, Trump recalled.
How many people will be killed in this case?
Iranians, I said.
How many people...
Are going to be killed.
His military team said he would find out.
And Trump told Todd and came back with the answer that approximately 150 people would very likely die.
And then the president said, quote, I thought about it for a second.
And I said, you know what?
They shot down an unmanned drone, plane, whatever you want to call it.
And here we are sitting with 150 dead people that would have taken place probably within a half an hour after I said go ahead.
And I didn't like it.
I didn't think it was proportionate.
Do you think Iran reads this story, assuming this is the official story, but whatever, it's the one that he told.
You think Iran is like, oh, I'm terrified of a Trump presidency.
I'm terrified of a Trump presidency.
After that?
Now, they may be terrified of a Trump presidency now that it's apparent that Trump is believing Trump Fake intel reports, in my opinion, that Iran's trying to kill them.
It's Iran that's running around the United States trying to kill them.
They may fear a Trump presidency now.
But that seems like a pretty reasonable thing to do.
Yeah, they didn't kill anybody of ours.
They just damaged our equipment or destroyed our equipment.
Is that worth 150 lives?
Is that worth 150 souls?
Trump says, no, I didn't like it.
I didn't like it.
I wonder why Trump didn't like it.
I mean, it's something that's just kind of, I don't think so.
That statement, that this story should have been lauded by the, it would have been lauded by the liberal press 20 years ago.
Oh, wow!
An anti-war president.
Thank the Lord.
We have somebody who's really thoughtful about how they're going to defend the country.
No, no, no, no.
You didn't hear any of that.
I don't know.
Look, it's a very gray and mixed bag.
But to me, it just seems like this is once again a giant setup.
And it reminds me, as I told you three days ago, it reminds me of Bashar al-Assad.
Bashar al-Assad.
I covered this.
I was on radio back in the day, and I covered this.
And I'm telling you, it was one of my first...
I would say, I mean, I was already a conservative, but I guess there's a difference between being a conservative and being, I guess you would call it foreign policy red-pilled, right?
And the Bashar al-Assad thing was definitely my foreign policy red-pilled moment, where I'm like, hang on, wait a second.
These Republicans that are parroting, these Republicans that are trying to go to war, In Syria, when Bashar al-Assad did not gas his own people, and he doesn't want to get Muammar Gaddafi'd.
It doesn't make any sense for him to cross the red line.
The one thing Obama said, this is my red line if you gassed your own people with sarin gas.
Oh!
And this whole thing was, if you go read the Seymour Hearst report, by the way, If you go read this, the red line...
Do I have it pulled up here?
I know I had it here.
I just had it here.
Yeah, right here.
Boom.
This is back April 2014.
The red line and the rat line.
Seymour M. Hirsch on Obama, Erdogan, and the Syrian rebels.
This is so new to me, I pronounced Erdogan in my entire segment.
That's the one thing Obama taught us.
The chief mark of Obama's foreign policy is that we're going to pronounce the names of countries properly, right?
Chile!
Qatar!
Not Qatar, but Qatar.
Anyway.
This is a fascinating piece.
You need to read it.
Get your mind wrapped around this.
They seeded the narrative.
With, I think, bogus intelligence reports.
Well, they found...
See, here's the deal.
They actually busted some Turkish forces with sarin gas, okay?
And then, of course, the Turkish people were like, oh, no, that was just antifreeze.
That was antifreeze.
That wasn't...
So they knew that there was sarin gas in the region, but...
They tried to say that this sarin gas was Assad's sarin gas.
And if it wasn't, look, and here's the deal.
If it wasn't for Russia, so Russia stepped in.
They got samples of the sarin gas that was used after the attack.
They sent it to MI6. They sent it to Britain.
And Britain confirmed that, hey, this doesn't look like it's Assad.
And so when Barack Obama was about to bomb Damascus back to the Stone Age, At the very last minute, the president said he wanted Congress to authorize the strike.
And then Seymour Harris writes, At this stage, Obama's premise that only the Syrian army was capable of deploying sarin gas was unraveling.
Within a few days of the 21st of August attack, the former intelligence official told me Russian military intelligence operatives had recovered samples of the chemical agent.
They analyzed it, passed it on to British military intelligence, and this was material sent to Porton down.
Many of the samples analyzed in the UK tested positive for the nerve agent sarin.
MI6 said it doesn't comment on intelligence matters.
Anyway, this whole thing was, the whole thing, they were about to go to war, and maybe this is why Obama chickened out, they were about to go to war over fake weapons of mass destruction again.
Or they were blaming it on the wrong person.
There was sarin gas use.
Folks, thank you so much for being with us.
That's all the time we have.
I've gone over my time.
I appreciate it.
As always, unless I'm providentially hindered, I'm going to see you back here on Friday.
Wishing you a happy Friday.
God bless everybody watching.
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