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Well, a man lit himself on fire a couple days ago outside of the Trump trial courthouse in New York.
...in a horrific and graphic event outside criminal court in Manhattan when a man set himself on fire.
Officials rushed to put out the flames, and he is now in critical condition.
Tonight, we've learned that man is Max Azzarello of Florida, who was photographed yesterday protesting outside the courthouse.
It happened while former President Trump's hush money trial was in session, but police don't believe Azarello was targeting anyone involved in the trial.
And then, surprise, surprise, he died.
He was declared dead over the weekend from the burns.
He lit himself on fire as a supposed form of protest.
Not quite sure what exactly he was protesting or how that's an effective form of protest, but here to talk about this and a lot more in this weekly news roundup of the last couple days is Chase Geyser.
Chase Geyser is the author of The Rise of American Populism, and he's also the host of the Sunday Night Live show on InfoWars, and he joins us now.
So great to have you on, Chase.
How's it going this Tuesday afternoon?
It's an honor and a pleasure to be with you.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, it's great to be here, for you to be here actually.
I haven't had you on the show before, but we're obviously friends of Infowars.
So tell us a little bit about the details about this guy who lit himself on fire a couple days ago.
You know, it was crazy when it happened on Friday.
I did a little bit of a deep dive looking into his background.
I read his manifesto.
I saw some rather ironic posts on his Instagram account, for example, complaining about the response time of the Philadelphia Fire Department from 2018.
The more I look into it, the more it seemed to me like what happened was this is an example of a mentally ill person who wanted to self-immolate, and everything else seems like an excuse to do what he already wanted to do.
Now, I don't know if this is always the case with self-immolation.
It goes back, of course, to the Vietnam protester who famously did it.
And then we know that several months ago or weeks ago, there was the Palestine protester who did the same thing.
But it seems like this is a person that definitely had some mental health issues and everything else may have been an excuse just to commit suicide in this way.
Immediately when I saw it, my first impression was, oh, my gosh, this is going to be somebody protesting on behalf of Trump against the sham trial that Trump is going through.
And then that didn't turn out to be the case.
They found images of his car.
He was basically anti every single politician in the whole political spectrum.
So this is somebody who seems to be kind of on the right path in terms of being afraid of cryptocurrency and central bank digital currencies and things like that.
But self-immolation is obviously something that only a nuts person would do.
And it's unfortunate this person struggled with mental illness and lit themselves on fire.
Well, yeah, I think that first they try to paint him as a conspiracy theorist on the Trump side, right?
They kind of were like, oh, yeah, we found his conspiracy theories and pamphlets and everything, and they were trying to paint it out like this is just another Trump nuttard putting himself on fire.
But then as they dug more into his manifesto and whatnot, it did seem like, if anything, he was more of a radical leftist.
And this is a guy that, again, was lighting himself on fire, cause attention or for no apparent reason.
And maybe just as a distraction, of course, too.
I mean, again, I don't really understand the form of protest when you're dying afterwards.
I agree.
And if you look at his political contributions history, almost universally left-wing, if not universally left-wing, some directly for the Sanders campaign, others for other famous PACs associated with left-wing politics.
So this is definitely a lefty.
This sort of psychology seems to come exclusively from the left throughout history, and it just goes to show which side of the political spectrum is more conducive to mental illness.
Very true.
And what a cause to die for, too.
It's not even like a huge trial.
I mean, this is the Trump trial for the hush money of Stormy Daniels from so many years ago.
I mean, I can't even believe that this trial has come about and that this topic is at the forefront again.
I feel like we're back in 2016 all over again.
Can you tell us more about the details of this trial to begin with?
So, you heard that yourself.
A case that nobody wanted to bring, including Alvin Bragg.
It was just at the last minute they decided to do it.
It's a case that, if you're looking back, it goes back many, many years.
2015, maybe before that.
And it's a case as to bookkeeping, which is a very minor thing in terms of the law, in terms of all the violent crime that's going on outside as we speak, right outside as we speak.
You pay a lawyer.
It's a lawyer.
And they call it a legal expense.
That's the exact term they use, legal expense, in the books.
And another thing that wasn't even said was we never even deducted it as a tax deduction.
So that takes our whole ministry.
Most people want to deduct everything.
We never even took it as a tax deduction.
Sure.
So my understanding is that the trial is regarding the alleged hush money that Trump may or may not have paid through his attorney to Stormy Daniels in order to keep her quiet about an alleged affair that she has even written and said did not occur.
So there's a little bit of inconsistency in her testimony or her claims regarding this affair.
Frankly, I think it's a giant distraction because...
Who cares?
I mean, you're telling me I'm not supposed to vote for the guy because he slept with a porn star and had to pay her not to brag about it?
Come on.
I mean, this was years ago.
I mean, he was obviously sleeping with Marilyn Monroe.
So why does anybody even care about this alleged thing that may or may not have even happened 15 years ago?
They're obviously just using it as an excuse to try to bring him down.
Yeah, and that's why it's funny.
I feel like it's Russiagate and Stormy Danielsgate all over again because they tried this exact same angle again back in 2016 and it didn't work.
And nobody really, really cared except for those on the left.
And I feel like they've really got nothing new.
They're grasping at straws and here they come throwing the Stormy Daniels thing back again and then trying to make an even bigger deal out of it via this public trial.
And have witnesses from the National Enquirer and everything.
I mean, it's just, it's such a circus.
And it's really crazy how desperate, I think it just makes them look that this is what they're choosing to highlight and bring to the forefront right now.
Ultimately, it appears to me that they're trying to undermine his support among the evangelical Christian base, right?
Obviously, evangelical Christians don't like things like adultery or having affairs with porn stars and then spending campaign money to hide it.
But it's just not going to work because what evangelical is going to vote for Joe Biden?
I mean, first of all, we don't even know whether or not this really happened between Trump and Stormy Diaz.
That's the first problem.
Second of all, even if it did happen, it doesn't ring nearly as bad as inappropriate showers with Ashley Biden, which she alleged in her diary.
So there's no way that the evangelicals are going to choose Biden over Trump in the fall, given everything that we actually do have evidence is true of Joe Biden.
They're not going to just lean on a rumor or a misguided allegation, especially after these other, what is it, 91 allegations now?
91 felony charges against Trump.
Every time they charge him with a crime, it just rings like another lie from the left.
Right, exactly.
I mean, I guess it didn't deter evangelicals or Christians or conservatives back then.
I really don't think it's going to deter anybody now.
If anything, I think it's going to give him more stronger support from people because they'll be like, here he is again being attacked and persecuted.
We need to rally behind him even more, even harder.
Yeah, I agree with you.
A lot of people are critical of Trump, especially for his last year in office.
A lot of the libertarian side and conservatives and the vaccine stuff, there's a lot of skepticism there, and I understand that.
But when push comes to shove, there's nothing that Trump did wrong that isn't something you can immediately attribute to the left.
And the immediate The most obvious reason to vote for him is that all the world's supervillains hate him so much.
So even if you don't agree with anything that he ever did, it's very clear that the most evil people in the world hate him more than anything, which is why I'm confidently supporting him in the fall.
Do you think that it's a mistake that he's not on the debate stage?
And do you want to see him on the debate stage?
I mean, I certainly do.
I think that was the best.
Well, first of all, against the other candidates, but now against Biden.
I mean, do you want to see them on the debate stage duking it out?
Yes, I absolutely want to see Donald Trump debate Joe Biden because I think that every day Joe Biden slips a little further into dementia.
And I think that to see that contrast would be incredibly enlightening for the American people.
One of the things that astounded me about the Joe Biden campaign was when they made the decision for Joe Biden to come out and do a press conference the same exact night.
That Tucker Carlson interviewed Vladimir Putin because you could see such a disparity in cognitive function and ability and sharpness between Putin and Joe Biden.
And I think if you had Joe Biden and Donald Trump on stage next to each other, you would see similar disparity between the two in terms of, oh my gosh, this one is obviously much sharper than the other one.
I think that if you look back at the State of the Union, Performance.
It was obvious that he was hopped up on Adderall.
I know that there are reports from staffers that he's on all sorts of amphetamines in order to function.
I think that he has a very short window every day where he comes off coherent and functional and that that window is getting tighter and tighter.
So I think that Trump should absolutely push for a debate with Joe Biden.
Didn't bother me at all that Trump didn't debate any of the other candidates because why would you participate in a competition for second place, which is what they were all doing.
Seemed like he made the right call there.
Obviously, he won the primary without any issue, so why would he waste his time?
But now that he's going into this general election, I think he should really seriously push for screen time shared between the two.
Yeah, for sure.
I think so, too.
I mean, everyone's got to see the disparity between the two.
But funny enough, we have, you know, past due actors like Michael Douglas, who are just, you know, past their prime, coming out on shows saying that Biden is sharp as a tack.
Did you see that?
He said that Biden, he believes Biden is still sharp as a tack.
How could he even be in his right mind to say that?
Are you one of those people who wished he had bowed out, let the field choose somebody else?
How do you think about that?
Well, I think that I walk a little similar to him.
And the people that I've talked to, and everybody that I have, Say he's as sharp as a tack.
He's fine.
We all have an issue with memories.
As we get older, we forget names, something.
He's overcome a stutter in his life, and sometimes he might.
Well, we've got to separate the art from the artist.
Just because you're amazing at acting doesn't mean that you have any idea what's going on in the world anywhere else.
I'll watch a Michael Douglas movie any day of the week.
Wall Street's one of my favorite movies of all time.
His famous monologue about greed being good is an iconic moment in American cinema.
So I'm not going to knock him as a very talented actor, but most actors who I've met, similar with musical artists, are frankly retarded.
And they're amazing at what they do, but they're dumb at everything else.
And that's why I don't take anything seriously that these actors say.
Even if they're for Trump, it's just like, whatever, just another actor.
This is not somebody who's necessarily politically astute.
Or they are, but they're propaganda agents being used by the left to say these things in public.
So everybody says, oh, wow, you know, Michael Douglas said that Biden is sharp as a tack.
So maybe he isn't that bad if Michael Douglas is saying that.
Now, any last words before you go?
And then also I want to hear about your book that you just recently released, The Rise of American Populism.
Yeah, so my only last words would be just to encourage everybody to vote for Trump and get their neighbors to vote for Trump.
Do things like share this network and this stream and this show, as well as all the shows on Infowars.
I know that a lot of people are very discouraged because the last election was so obviously stolen, and they feel like this election is hopeless because of what happened.
But I firmly believe that if we win by a great enough margin, we can overcome the powers that they have to cheat.
We just need to push really, really hard and vote as if the election system works and is honest and just fight like we're losing every single day so that we can get past this cheating.
That would be the main thing.
The next thing is my book, The Rise of American Populism, is coming out.
In June, it's available now on Amazon.
I highly recommend all of your listeners check that out.
I put a lot of my own heart and soul into this book.
I did not hire a ghostwriter to write it.
I typed it myself at two in the morning for weeks and weeks in a passionate frenzy.
And it's telling the story of everything that's happening now in America and everything that needs to happen next in order to save this country.
I really believe that populism is the move.
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Well, some really interesting things have been happening, especially around social media over the last couple of days, and it's erupted into discussions and debates that I didn't really think would be happening.
It's kind of interesting what debates and topics are being brought to the forefront.
And it kind of started with Tucker Carlson a couple of weeks ago talking about on his show how Israel doesn't typically treat Christians very well.
And he was bringing on a rabbi and talking about how Christians are really hated on in Israel.
And that kind of fueled the whole pro-Jew machine and news machine against Tucker Carlson.
Then Tucker Carlson was on Joe Rogan over the last couple days and he talked about how perhaps the US launching atomic bombs on Hiroshima wasn't the best thing and actually how that was evil because killing hundreds of thousands or millions of people is an act of evil and those people who are defending it they're evil too.
And then what happened after that is Jeremy Boring.
Jeremy Boring is the CEO of The Daily Wire, who has been exposed recently in any event.
But Jeremy Boring posted this tweet.
People who deny the moon landing or suggest America is evil for its use of atomic weapons against Imperial Japan or who say that George Bush was behind 9-11 actually hate this country, he said.
Which...
Yeah, I like how he just lumped all those things together, acting like they're all just conspiracy theories that are nutty and crazy.
And then Patrick Bette David said, Jeremy, isn't the entire premise of being a critical thinker to question things?
Being anti-establishment is to question the establishment's motive.
And Jeremy Boring, in response to that, said this.
It is not critical thinking to say that America never landed on the moon or that George W. Bush orchestrated the 9-11 attacks.
It is a rejection of critical thinking, says Jeremy Boring.
And, of course, this launched a huge debate over the social media spheres in the last 24 hours.
And then, of course, Ben Shapiro had to be rolled out to release a video all about this and him weighing in on this topic.
And he says, no, America was not evil for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
And no, just asking questions doesn't make you a critical thinker.
Evaluating evidence claims and counter claims does.
And he has this whole video basically shaming anyone that asks questions or that dares to critically think that doesn't align with Ben Shapiro's narrative.
There's a weird horseshoe theory thing that's happening here.
We've talked about it before on the program, that you have this constellation of far leftists who are rather friendly toward Hamas.
Who generally are isolationist on foreign policy, but they're isolationist on foreign policy mainly because they believe that the United States is a nefarious force in the world.
They're sort of Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky with regard to American foreign policy.
America is actually bad.
That horseshoe theory has now swung all the way around and includes some people on the right.
Now, as we'll talk about in a moment, when it comes to isolationism, as we've discussed, there are a bunch of different perspectives within the isolationist perspective.
There is the, we should not get involved in foreign conflicts no matter what perspective because we need the money here at home.
Which means that you're also in favor of cutting spending by the government on a wide variety of other subjects.
There's also an isolationism that suggests that whenever America gets involved in foreign conflicts, that tends to taint the United States, not it's about the United States tainting the rest of the world.
But there is a theory that has now risen on the right that there is something deeply malign about the United States, something deeply wrong with the United States.
This was made apparent over the weekend.
Tucker Carlson was on Joe Rogan's show.
Obviously, I'm very friendly with Joe.
I think Joe does a great job during his interviews.
And there's a clip from this interview that went particularly viral.
This is a clip in which Tucker Carlson calls the United States evil for having dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945, ending World War II, and then suggests that anyone who would justify that is also evil.
Which is a very traditionally left-wing perspective.
It is not traditionally a particularly right-wing perspective because most people on the conservative side of the aisle tend to believe that America is a force for good in the world.
And as we'll discuss, it turns out that dropping the atomic bomb on Japan was necessary for ending World War II and likely saved millions of lives, both American and Japanese.
But here is Tucker.
Well, you could say the same about the atomic bomb, right?
Yes, you could.
And you could say that we have to develop it like Oppenheimer felt before the Nazis did.
I love that!
How'd that work?
I love, by the way, that people on my side, I'll just say, I'll just admit it, on the right, you know, have spent the last 80 years defending, dropping nuclear weapons on civilians.
Like, are you joking?
Right.
That's just like prima facie evil.
If you can't, well, if we hadn't done that, then this, that, the other thing, that was actually a great savings.
Like, no, it's wrong to drop nuclear weapons on people.
And if you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil.
Like, it's not a tough one, right?
Is that a hard call for you?
It's not a hard call for me.
So, with that in mind, like, why would you want nuclear weapons?
It's like just a mindless, childish, sort of intellectual exercise to justify, like, oh no, it's really good because someone else will get it.
How about no?
How about, like, spending all of your effort to prevent this from happening?
Actually, what would be childish is to assume that there are no other players in the world, for example, trying to develop nuclear weapons.
The fact is the Nazis were trying to develop nuclear weapons.
There was, in fact, a nuclear arms race that was happening at the time.
Not only that, as it turns out, the Soviet Union then developed nuclear weapons.
And it is mutually assured destruction and nuclear deterrence that has kept the world largely from sinking into another World War III-like mass casualty morass because of the horror of dropping the nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the first place.
By the way, when he says things like...
How exactly would you justify?
Why are we talking about how many lives it would save?
It's just wrong to drop the bomb?
Well, no, actually.
If you end up saving more lives than are cost by the dropping of the atomic bomb, then it is morally justified to drop the atomic bomb.
And that happens to be the reality of the situation.
So to unpack all of this and more and talk about this, what's happening with the pro-Jew, establishment media, those who are calling the atomic bomb not evil, those who are calling it evil, etc., is Shane Cashman.
Shane Cashman has not been on Shots Fire before, but is his debut here, and he's a He's a conservative commentator or political commentator, writer, and author.
And he joins us now to discuss this craziness that has sort of been unleashed on the internet the last couple days.
Shane Cashman, thanks so much for joining Shots Fired.
How are you?
I'm good.
Thanks for having me.
It's great for you to be here.
All right, so before we launch into sort of the other claims made here, because there's a lot to unpack that people are talking about, I want to ask you, do you think it's a wild conspiracy theory to believe that the moon landing wasn't real, that it might not have happened, like Jeremy Boring is stating?
I think it's perfectly fine to question anything and everything at all times, no matter who's telling you not to.
There's a reason to question everything because our government hasn't been transparent throughout the last few decades, for sure, and probably beyond that.
So I didn't realize it was going to be un-American to question American atrocities or historical events such as landing on the moon.
But it should be the most American thing to question everything.
Because that's why we're here.
Yeah, exactly.
And there's a lot of the right-wing base believes that the moon landing wasn't real or it was different than the official narrative.
And there's a lot of evidence that backs those claims up.
Do you have any thoughts on whether the moon landing and the official narrative around it was real before we dive into the rest of these claims?
So I'm like...
Agnostic when it comes to all of those types of theories.
I think it's very possible that there is such a thing as a moon in the sky.
It's also possible it's an alien headquarters.
I've talked to people, for instance, Alex Jones.
When I asked him about the moon, he tells me that no one saw the actual moon landing, that they filmed it in a studio, but he believes there is a moon.
They couldn't show us the moon.
This is according to Alex, according to people he knows at NASA, supposedly, because the moon is a graveyard of astronauts, according to him and his sources.
So, you know, it's kind of like I have a Cubist perspective on these things.
I don't know.
I wasn't there.
I know that they lie to us all the time.
So why am I going to believe anything they tell me without, you know, actually seeing it?
I think that's a fair thing to do.
It's okay.
I'm not going to lose my mind over it, you know?
Yeah, and of course, they are the masters of illusion and deception and productions, and they can put on incredible productions, and that's the whole Hollywood industry, right?
We see these movies, and they're so real that they feel real, they look real, and they're masters of that, so why couldn't they have just put a production on?
For landing on the moon, easily.
And when you know certain things that the government has done, so take the ghost unit in World War II where they had balloon tanks, right?
And PSYOP sounds to get into the Germans' heads.
You know they're capable of producing It's a theatrical event.
So I kind of can't help but apply that to a lot of certain things, you know?
And then I know people will get mad and say, we went to the moon, Buzz Aldrin told me.
But if you listen to Buzz Aldrin interviews, there's one in particular with Conan O'Brien from years ago where he gets mad at Conan for Conan saying, I saw you land on the moon.
Buzz goes, you didn't see me land on the moon because it wasn't filmed.
You know, you saw a simulation.
Then you can go on to YouTube and type in moon landing CBS and And it'll show you like the fake moon landing that they filmed to show the American public some type of landing.
But obviously no one is on the moon to film that coming down.
So there's so many different angles to look at it, you know, whether it's totally not true to totally true, and then the varying degrees, you know, within that.
Absolutely.
And of course, the reaction from the astronauts who had supposedly just come back from the moon was so apathetic and less than enthusiastic.
I mean, you really just came down from the moon and got nothing to say about it.
It was like pulling teeth to try to get anything from them in those interviews, if you saw them.
It was almost a dead giveaway.
I mean, who acts like that if they really just came down from the moon?
You'd be so excited.
You'd be, you know, just over the moon, literally excited about it and sharing about it.
But these were like...
They looked like they were guilty.
They looked like they were hiding something in these interviews.
Yeah, because they just got off the set with Stanley Kubrick.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All right.
So those are my thoughts on the moon landing, too.
Again, I just don't believe the official narrative of pretty much anything anymore.
And that makes you aware and awake and a critical thinker and not a sheep.
So what do you think about Jeremy Boring's further tweets about saying, you know, the, oh, if you believe that 9-11 was an inside job, you're an idiot.
You really hate America.
I mean, really?
And he claims to be a conservative?
I love that he said it.
I love it.
You know, I love seeing his point of view.
I love seeing Ben Shapiro double down on it.
And I love that we get to have this conversation now.
Because him saying, you know, it's kind of like he has this very finite textbook view of history where, you know, we have to do atrocities.
And how dare you question anything?
You know, the thing I like to tell people when I'm having this conversation, like, you know, at a party or something, someone brings up some idea they think it's just a conspiracy theory or they mock it.
I like to talk about maybe the Tuskegee experiments or Operation Northwoods, things that have been declassified that show that the government does not care about you, will perform atrocities on you.
They actually like it.
They'll feed off of you.
And once you know those things happen, kind of like what I was saying about the ghost tanks of World War II, you can't help but apply those to similar situations in your time, right?
So it should be totally fine, again, to question literally anything.
And then with Ben Shapiro, I mean, watching his video he put out today about, you talked about it a little bit.
Yeah, I want to talk about that.
Right, let's dovetail into that in just a minute.
But before we go further, do elaborate a little bit on your background, too, so our audience knows you a little bit better.
Yeah, so well I grew up on a military base in West Point, New York.
I'm civilian, so I was like the only like weirdo that stayed while all the military family moves every four years.
But anyway, it was weird, but in the middle of our town we had the shell Of the atom bomb, like as they carried it to the plane, that is like a weird shrine in the middle of town that the Japanese come to as like a pilgrimage every summer.
I mean, I can't tell you, thousands and thousands of people come to take pictures with the bomb.
It looks like the bomb, you know, it's just a shell.
So obviously I have like a weird view of war.
I like to say I'm anti-war, but I also understand why human nature Leads to war.
And unfortunately, that's just the case, right?
But I've lost friends to war.
I've seen friends' parents get lost at war or lose limbs or come back just really messed up with PTSD. But, you know, I just grew up thinking, wow, maybe it wasn't a good idea to murder a lot of civilians, you know?
Because I could have been that on this side.
Because we're just innocent people in the outskirts of a military operation.
So that was just kind of like how I grew up seeing things.
Like, I see there's a nuance to it.
I'm not fully black and white on it.
But then I would apply the same idea of why I believe we shouldn't have dropped an atom bomb and massacred all these lives.
The same way I don't agree with Sherman's March to the Sea, which, you know, is an early form of the atomic bomb for the South, where, oh, we're going to go save, win the war.
But they slaughtered a lot of people.
They raped a lot of women.
And even, you know, people love to say, well, they have to free the slaves.
They actually murdered freed slaves because they didn't like them following them.
General Sherman was a pretty bad dude, and he actually didn't like slaves.
He wasn't doing it to free slaves.
He was doing it because he really wanted to wreak havoc.
He was an atom bomb.
He wanted to destroy it.
That's kind of like my background growing up where I did, because West Point gave birth to all the generals of the Civil War, like Sherman.
And he's kind of a hero, but I don't think he's a hero.
War is hell, like you said.
And it's very difficult, but you shouldn't have to go out of your way to slaughter innocent people.
And that shouldn't be a problem to say, you know?
And then with Ben, to dovetail into Ben real quick is just He makes it sound like it's a leftist attribute to distrust the government.
I'm not playing that game.
This could bring people together.
There's institutions that have been corrupted and evil, and they feed off of your suffering.
We should all be able to look at that and be like, okay, we can agree on this.
We might not agree on policy, but we know these people are wrong.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So Ben Shapiro, you know, the title of his the title of his video or his caption says, no, America was not evil for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
And no, just asking questions doesn't make you a critical thinker.
Evaluating evidence, claims and counterclaims does.
And of course, this is from the guy that told all of his followers, just take the vaccine, dopes.
Just take the vaccine, dopes.
So if you haven't seen the clip, let's just play a quick clip of it.
Now, I think to understand what Tucker's doing here, you have to understand that this particular interview included a lot of conspiratorial thinking.
There's a lot of conspiracy theorizing in this particular interview, ranging from the CIA killing JFK to 9-11 might be an inside job kind of stuff.
So here is Tucker implying that 9-11 might be an inside job.
The wildest thing about Tower 7 is that if you just say it looks like a controlled demolition, people get mad at you.
Why?
Well, I don't know.
Because I'm not saying that it is a controlled demolition.
But I'm saying if you watch it, it looks like a controlled demolition.
But that happens all the time.
Buildings catch fire and they just implode in on themselves.
I think that happens every week, right?
All these poultry plants and manufacturing plants that keep getting...
It's the way it went down.
Alright, so what are some of the takeaways that you got from this ridiculous Ben Shapiro video?
When I watched that video, all I saw was the Prime Minister of New Zealand telling people that she's the authority of the truth.
That's not how it goes.
It's okay for us.
Because of things I mentioned, like Northwoods, we could talk about COINTELPRO, MKUltra.
There's a lot of really secret, diabolical things that this country has done.
And to tie it together to Hiroshima, to Japan, the atom bomb, you know, oh, we're evil for saying we shouldn't have dropped a bomb.
And then they don't talk about an even darker evil truth beneath the surface of all of that, where we went into Japan We found things like Unit 731, which is one of the most heinous crimes against humanity I think that's ever been done by the Japanese onto the Chinese prisoners of war.
And that was Japanese scientists performing vivisections, which is, for those who don't know, dissecting people while they're still alive and taking out their organs.
They were freezing people's hands and shattering them.
They were putting people in pressure chambers to see what it would take to pop your eyeballs out of your skull.
Electrocution.
So we went in there and found this and said, we like what you've been doing here, and you give us all that information, we'll give you immunity.
Now the argument would be, you know, wouldn't you want to know?
What they were up to.
Okay, I understand it.
But then what happens is that they came home after hiring a lot of Nazis with Operation Paperclip and in my opinion started doing a lot of those things to the American people like Tuskegee or like Operation Sea Spray off the coast of San Francisco where they were spraying biological weapons, like a certain chemical, I forget which one it was, into the air to get people sick.
Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to gather all this heinous information because it seemed like it wasn't just like a curiosity.
It was a curiosity because they wanted to carry it out on their own people.
Right, right.
Yeah, and I just, I think, first of all, any time when someone's just telling you what to think and how to think, just like Ben Shapiro always does, you know, well, this type of questioning isn't considered critical thinking, and it's stupid, and it's crazy, just makes you seem crazy, it makes you a nut.
This type of critical thinking is okay, but of course because it aligns with his agenda.
Was America right to involve itself in World War II? Was America right to drop a nuclear weapon on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to end the war?
Now listen, as always, when Tucker talks, there's a grain of truth to much of what Tucker says.
There's truth, a lot of truth, to the idea that a lot of our powerful institutions have been corrupted and that people inside those institutions have used that power in order to lie and change the narrative.
But there is a difference, again, between healthy skepticism, a demand for evidence.
That's what skepticism is.
Being critical, being a critical thinker is a demand for evidence.
That is not the same thing as just asking questions.
Just asking questions means the search for answers is totally worthless.
And all the answers are deemed insufficient anyway.
When you start thinking that being a critical thinker is just the asking of the questions rather than critically evaluating evidence and claims and counterclaims, that's wrong.
If you're the kind of person who just asks questions, that's actually childish.
And nothing, of course, everything that the Israelis are doing right now is justified, according to Ben, even though they just bombed a playground today and a whole bunch of kids.
I mean, a playground?
A talk that just took place at a magazine refugee camp within the past 45 minutes or so.
A drone fired the missiles on a group of people.
Later on, we learned it from eyewitness in the area that this were a group of children at a playground that was set up near a camp for displaced families.
And those children are regularly visiting this playground.
And just as a father of three children, I understand why.
Displaced families would send their kids just for an hour or a couple hours just to keep them entertained and release all the negative energy in them.
Because right now, displaced families have the hardest time inside tents or inside other people's residential homes trying to stay protected and safe.
But it's as necessary as also staying safe just to give space to those children.
So 11 children have been killed in this attack and just wonder what threat these children have caused.
It posed to have the Israeli military fire a missile drawn on them.
Eleven reported killed with more, with dozens of injuries in the area.
Those who had the scene of the attack described horrific scenes of the children.
Torn apart by the massive explosion caused by the missiles.
But everything, every type, every kind of bombing or violence from Israel is okay and justified, according to Ben.
Or things like bombing Hiroshima, according to Ben, is justified.
But other types of violence isn't justified.
Yeah, this is again why I kind of love this conversation.
I hate that this stuff is happening.
I hate this, like the war and the innocent lives.
But then hopefully we can grow from these things because this is one thing I'm seeing a lot of also on the conservative right, or whatever you want to call it, conservative right anymore, is people so pro-Israel.
We've got to fund Israel You know, bomb people, but no Ukraine.
There's no moral consistency with any of this stuff.
Or now it's all, you know, pro-Hiroshima, pro-atomic bomb, but you can't question it.
All they are is they're so stuck in their narrative.
The way I see it is, post-COVID, we kind of entered what I've been calling an existential renaissance.
We were forced to question everything, if you weren't already, right?
A lot of people were forced to question their reality, forced to question institutions, because we were locked down, we were lied to.
A lot of people lost their jobs, lost their lives because of the vaccines.
And so we enter this era of a widespread, hopefully, awakening, being like, these people, it's not left or right.
It shouldn't be.
It's like, they just hate us.
It doesn't matter.
It's a unit party, they're funding both sides of the wars, and they're taking all your money every week out of your paycheck.
So when I see people like Jeremy Boring or Ben Shapiro, From this condescending attitude that they're talking to us by, it's like they're going to get left behind in the existential renaissance because of their textbook view.
I don't care how smart they sound, but it's like a very academic kind of corrupted view of the world, childlike view of the world.
I don't know if they're aware of these things.
You won't hear them go deeper about anything like Northwoods or Unit 731.
They might talk about wiretapping.
On the surface.
On the surface.
But it goes so much darker.
And when you confront how much darker it really is, it's impossible to then not say it's evil.
Yeah.
So it shouldn't be a problem.
But that dial is just too much for them because they're the corporate press.
They're no different than Fox or NBC. Yeah, and it's because I don't think they're legitimately unaware of these issues.
I believe they're fully aware, but they're controlled opposition puppets, just like CNN is, but it's for the right.
That's why people, that's why Candace Owens has had a falling out with them and why she's calling them out, why she's saying she's going to be exposing them.
It really, it really, they are exposing themselves as controlled opposition.
And even though they appear to be on the right or conservative or whatever, they're really not.
You know, they're really just as bad as CNN or NBC.
They're just talking heads and they're not going to expose the real threats, the real, you know, the real issues here and the real evil people.
They're going to pretend like this is conspiracy theorists and there's not this deep state shadow government, which, of course, we know there really is.
And they're the ones controlling the puppet strings.
They're the ones who are funding both sides of every war.
Yeah.
And you can't talk about the vaccines.
You can't talk about, well, they promoted the vaccines.
You can't talk about the election being stolen.
You know, and these are very real things that we should totally be able to talk about.
You know, I was just, I went down a rabbit hole the other day of how the Clintons destroyed Haiti.
With the tariffs, with the rice crops, how Hillary interfered with their election.
All of Haiti, you go down there, they despise the Clintons, and they think Hillary helped steal that election.
So these are things, they called it zombie votes, and they were like, we don't understand how this person was elected.
So it should be totally okay, but I think certain people Care more about reputation than they do authenticity.
You know, I'm going to question everything into oblivion to the point where I know it's like, at a certain point, the people who question so much will be questioning themselves.
And that's okay.
You know, I'm like, you should question everything.
Don't ever have your mindset in a silo.
Don't idolize anybody.
Don't idolize any narratives.
Just do your, like, own reading as widely as you can from the whole spectrum of the political, the diseased political world, and try to form your best opinion.
Because you only got a little bit of time here, and unfortunately, everyone in charge is lying to you and stealing from you and trying to kill you.
Exactly.
And if you don't understand that by now, if you've got your head in the clouds, you know, you don't understand that even every so-called war that you see on TV that they're promoting and running 24-7 images of, that's propaganda.
That's a distraction.
And what are they distracting us from or what agenda are they trying to move us towards?
I mean, they just approved another 60 million or 60 billion to go to Ukraine.
And, like, why?
What is that money even doing?
Well, it's been exposed that this is just a left-wing, deep-state, money-laundering racketeering scam.
It's not really going to fund, you know, the war in Ukraine, nor is the President Volensky even a valid or real president.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
The borders to America have become so abstract.
They're in Ukraine.
They're in Israel.
We don't have borders.
We don't need a wall.
But we're also being invaded.
I mean, it's just it's total nonsense.
There's no logic to it.
Only if you look at it closely and say, well, these people want to fund this because they're getting money from this.
And these people want to fund this and this and that.
And that's all it is.
Everyone just trying to, you know, it's greed and power play because they want to maintain their status and their power.
And then, unfortunately, we just get lost in the mix.
And then, you know, we did experience something that will scar generations for years.
It's like a Great Depression with the lockdowns and COVID. We will be known as that generation that faced true horrors.
I'm not saying I believe in COVID, really.
I think it was a bioweapon.
But the lockdowns promoted overdoses from isolation.
There was no accountability for the people in charge of perpetrating all those horrors, forcing people to get vaccinated.
We're going to live with that scar as a mental scar and a generation forever.
So because of that, we are now in a place of distrust.
But that's okay.
At the same time, I've got to say, because I find myself doing it, I lead with skepticism with almost everything I see in the news.
And I think that's okay.
But you should also...
Keep your skepticism in check, because you don't want to drift off into nihilism.
I thankfully have a moral anchor in God, and that's how I get through this crazy, chaotic life.
The only thing giving me structure is faith through the chaos.
But you have to remain skeptical of your skepticism, and everybody is telling you what you should and shouldn't think.
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Second thing we can do is drink water.
I mean, you hear me talk about hydrogen water all the time with our little bottles.
Yes.
We have to have water to live.
Our bodies are 65% water, just like the Earth is.
Go figure.
Right.
Wow, does that not give you chills right there to think about that?
Totally, yeah.
When we drink that water, if we can bring hydrogen in there, it can reduce inflammation, it can reduce free radicals, and it can be calm.
Calm and peace to the cells.
So I don't know how better we can get than those two tips and we need that more today.
Dan, if we're stuck and just locked in to what's next in the news, it's gonna lock us in on it.
It's like locking into a self-imposed prison.
100%.
And you have an incredible water hydration device as well that we can talk about real quick.
I know that you probably have it on your desk right now.
I drink this every day.
This is, you know, forgive me for sounding like an infomercial, but this is the truth, man.
It's on my desk, you know, even before it came alive.
I put water in here about five minutes ago, pushed the button, and this little chamber that's via electrolysis creates hydrogen in here.
And I'll push the button one more time so people can see that.
Really cool.
So cool.
You can see that it puts little bubbles in there.
Really neat like that.
And when I, I'll turn it off and show you when I pull the lid off, you can hear a little pressure, and I just drink the water.
Yeah, you don't want to be just drinking tap water.
I mean, you want to be...
Not all water is created equal, right?
I mean, of course, we want to be...
We want to be hydrating with lots and lots of water as one of your tips, but not all water is necessarily created equal.
No.
Get your water filtered.
You know, Reverse Hot Smokes is my favorite.
There's a lot of little portable filters that one can do from a hardware store to throw in your fountain or on your pitchers in your house.
You can get an indoor filter system.
Works pretty good.
We have one.
Or you can buy filtered water, too.
But the cool thing about this is when I drink this, it reduces not just the inflammation of the radicals, but it can make myself self-respond in a younger manner.
That's cool.
Cheers to being younger or older, I guess, I suppose.
But it's really important.
You've got yours too.
It's important to do the right things that are simple.
I'm a big believer in the KISS principle, keep it simple, silly, you know?
And what we talked about is learning to redefine stress, understand the addiction and stress, getting outside and getting away from it all, and then filling your body with the water, which is life.
Absolutely.
And what are your take on what is happening right now with this Israel-Hamas war?
And what are they pushing us towards?
What, you know, this whole divided, you know, anti-Semitism versus, you know, pro-Hamas, you have to choose either or.
What are your thoughts on what's happening right now with this war?
First of all, I think all the money needs to stay right here in this country right now because our country is collapsing.
You know, I spent a week in East Palestine after that train exploded.
I saw, like, these people decimated from this, what we know now, North Pole Southern said we didn't have to blow up a freight train.
You know, we didn't have to do that.
So I'm just like, our infrastructure is totally collapsed.
Our border is a joke.
We got a huge problem here.
I take all the money back.
I'm pro the innocent people on all sides of every war.
Like, that's all it is.
And I don't trust any government.
I don't trust Hamas.
I don't trust the Israeli government.
The Israeli government, we're just as tyrannical with COVID as my former governor in New York, Cuomo.
Very tyrannical.
He's a mass murderer because he put all the sick people in nursing homes and like around 15,000 people lost their lives that way.
So I don't give a crap about the Israeli government or Hamas.
I feel deeply for those children.
Especially.
And all the innocent people on either side of all these wars.
But my focus is this country.
And this country is, like, in ruins right now.
Spiritually and with the infrastructure.
And the politics are just driving a wedge between us.
Because all we do is fight about it all the time.
And I think we can try to find a common ground.
Because I think that's the only way we're going to move forward, honestly.
Is being like, this whole system has been corrupted.
And it's not working properly.
You know, obviously, the left has, they're depraved with a lot of their ideas, whether it's, you know, socialism, Marxism.
I worked in colleges for a long time.
I saw how depraved Marxist professors were.
But, like, these things need to be rooted out and changed so we can move forward.
So, you know, yeah, that's my one takeaway of all that is the money's got to come back to us.
Like, it was just tax season, and I'm seeing so many people saying, I owe the government so much money.
What do we get for it?
Like, so many of us can hardly feed our kids, can keep gas in the car, the groceries are ridiculously expensive, and we're still paying the government all this money?
It's insane.
And then all we see is them converting our dollars into bombs.
And in terms of Hamas and Israel, both sides are getting, everyone's getting money.
Everyone but us, you know?
So we gotta fix this country with all that war money.
But the people in charge love war.
They fetishize violence and death.
And that's what they're going to keep doing until we change it.
Yeah, and they fund both sides of the war.
Yeah, they love it.
Right, they love it.
And then we're the real casualties.
We're the real victims.
Yeah.
because we're here cheering on, cheering on, uh, Israel's, the Israelites, or we're, we're cheering on Hamas or we're cheering on Ukraine, putting our Ukraine flag in our profile, but we're, that money's not really going to them.
And if anything, the money, again, it's funding both sides of the war.
Um, we're the ones that are going to be suffering because we're distracted by these things instead of focusing on fixing our own families, lives and country.
Like, the Israeli flag has become the new black box for the right, and the Ukraine flag has become the new black box for the left.
And it's just the next thing that we are going to fight about on Twitter and Instagram, and it's ridiculous because we're living in a wasteland.
I love this country.
It's so beautiful.
I love getting to travel this country and talk to different people and see how they experience their life.
But to me, it feels like we're celebrating the destruction, whether it's the border, you know, or just economic despair.
Right, exactly.
And then with, you know, everyone, the news in MSNBC and, you know, the left-wing media talking about how when people were saying Christ is king during Easter, that's code word for slaughter all Jews, right?
So now Christ is king is slaughter all Jews, according to them.
I mean, it's amazing how they twist everything.
It's amazing how they gaslight everyone into believing they can't even be Christians anymore.
They can't even say Christ is king without it turning into anti-Semitism.
Thank you.
Right, and what I hate the most about the left, or one of the many things, is the right does it too.
They're both guilty of it, and that is the death of language, right?
And they move the goalposts of definitions constantly.
So now the right did it, all of a sudden the crisis came, and that kind of is what the linchpin to Candace and Daily Wire.
All of a sudden you can't say this, you can't say that.
Everyone's constantly redefining things.
We need to get back to using actual definitions.
It's a horrible thing, because that's the thing that helps us communicate.
I was in the colleges as an adjunct professor teaching English and writing, and that means a lot to me.
Language is the engine of everything and the way we communicate.
But that's why we kind of became almost interdimensional species in this country, because no one's using the same definitions anymore.
So Crisis King is now anti-Semitic, right?
And then the left takes words like racist, misogynist, you name all the words, and then nothing means anything anymore.
So how do we live in this world, which is like, through language, has become nihilist.
Like, I reject nihilism, but they want you all to be nihilist because we can't communicate.
They don't want you to communicate, because if we get together and start to point out things, you know, then that's a problem.
But the left and the right are just eating themselves.
We used to kind of attack each other, but now it's just the right eating itself and the left eating itself, and it's just a wasteland between.
Yeah, exactly.
And it's the uniparty, the handful of elites that are controlling everybody and fueling these fights and fueling the arguments on Twitter and the division.
I mean, that's what they want.
Distracted with fighting each other instead of being united against the common enemy, which is them.
It's very effective.
And it works.
And it's surprising people have not woken up yet.
Yeah, I hope it comes soon.
Twitter, I don't know to the extent to which it is a metaphor for the real life, but I do know it has a large impact on a lot of people, whether the conversations start there and then they steep out into the real world.
But I think seeing these conversations happen more is really good because the Daily Wire does have a giant platform.
And it's great for them to say that.
And then there's a lot of blowback.
You know, obviously, there's people that agree with Daily Wire.
That's fine.
But it's given us this really awesome opportunity to have this conversation where we can, like, be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Like, there's a lot more to this than just saying atom bombs are evil because there's, like, layers and layers, a whole deep layer of secret operations and atrocities that we've done.
And it should be totally American to question it.
Exactly, exactly.
They've been perpetuating evil on its own citizens for a very, very long time now.
And once a lot of people started waking up to the fact that 9-11 was an inside job and, you know, the entire COVID pandemic You know, COVID-19 was an operation, you know, that was orchestrated and engineered ahead of time.
When people start realizing that, they do tend to wake up to the fact that, well, maybe this actually wasn't orchestrated inside job, or this, or this, and you really can't put anything, any event past anyone and think that it was just an accident at this point.
Right.
When you know that the government, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went to JFK and said, hey, we want to start a war with Cuba, and we're going to do it by blowing up our own citizens and having mass shooting events, you know, a false flag event.
And JFK is like, so the story goes, you know, I'd rather not do that.
And then they fire the General Lenin, sir.
So it's like, when you know those things have been designed behind the curtain of power, You can't help but look at all of these things that become the spark for some new power grab or money grab, like 9-11, right?
They always take advantage of bad situations, no matter who right or left, right?
And I always tell people, when it comes to all this stuff, in terms of the power Eisenhower's last speech in the White House is one of the best speeches when he talks about the military-industrial complex.
His last speech in the White House is telling the people it's gotten out of hand.
It's crazy.
I believe that's where he coined the term military-industrial complex.
And I would then wrap up the corporate press into that.
And Hollywood.
Right, because they all work hand in hand.
Right, right.
And then before all that, even with Hoover, the mafia, you know, so it's like a lot of evil entities working together to keep themselves in power, which is why then once you know those things, it's okay to be like, well, maybe this bad thing is going to be used by someone to turn it into a positive, but they're a bad person because they don't like us.
Exactly, exactly.
Well, it's been a very stimulating discussion, and I'm sure we'll see more over the next couple of days on social media, and more people like Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring will be outing themselves.
Yeah, me too.
It's kind of interesting, but again, it just proves Candace Owens' point, you know, why she was, quote, fired or terminated or whatever.
We see people, we see the aftermath of them, and then it all makes sense.
Where can people find you and follow you and read your books?
Yeah, you can find me at Shane Cashman on Twitter and Instagram.
And my books are, you can find them at shanecashman.com.
Got a bunch up there and another one coming out next month.
What's that one called?
It's called The Year of the Pariah, and it's a year I spent writing profiles on people who, you know, I don't think they're controversial, but the planet seems to.
I was with Kanye after he said I love Hitler on Alex Jones for a weekend.
I was with Alex Jones a few months after that.
A bunch of different political and cultural figures that I spent some time with profiling.
So that'll be out in May.
Wow, that sounds really cool, actually.
I'm going to have to get my hands on that.
All right, thanks so much, Shane Cashman.
It's been awesome talking to you.
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