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Jan. 5, 2024 - Stew Peters Show
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Millstone Report w Paul Harrell: Another Trans TERRORIST MURDERS Kids, Francis Collins' Covid Pivot
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We may need to make Gallows great again.
Oh my, I feel just like I don't shine.
I look so good I might die.
All I know is everybody loves me.
Come down, sway into my own sound.
Flashes in my face now.
All I know is everybody loves me.
Literally so many people that need to have a millstone put around their neck and tossed into the sea.
Everybody, everybody, everybody.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for being with us.
Good evening.
Welcome to the Millstone Report.
I'm Paul Harrell, your host.
Well, tragically, it's happened again.
I know.
I mean, it's when are we going to have a national conversation about this?
Tragically, another member of the Rainbow Brown Shirts has gone into a school to maim and murder the innocent.
17-year-old Dylan Butler attacked Perry High School in Iowa and killed a sixth grader and wounded five others, including the school's principal.
According to reports, Dylan Butler killed himself at the scene shortly after his rampage.
After news broke of the shooting, the various social media profiles of the shooter, Dylan Butler, began to be scrubbed off the internet.
What were they trying to hide?
That he was trans, of course.
Or a member of the, you know, non-binary, whatever.
A member of the LGBTQ RSTL and the Would You Like to Buy Val Enclave.
However, several screenshots and screen recordings have been preserved, so it's obvious where this man's loyalties lied.
He wasn't only trans, but a trans activist.
One user on X named Ollie London put it this way, quote, Went on a shooting rampage at Perry High School in Iowa, killing a 6th grader believed to be aged 11 to 12, while other students had to barricade themselves into the classroom, end quote.
Additionally, ex-user EndWokeness posted, quote, Dylan Butler is the mass shooter in Perry.
He, they pronouns with female avatars.
So the guy had female avatars on his Instagram, TikTok, and Snapchat.
He killed a 6th grader, injured 5, and also planted an IED in the school.
So we've called these trans shooters terrorists before, and we were right, of course, but now they are literally bringing bombs to school.
Improvised, explosive devices.
It's time for a national conversation.
Was this non-binary man on any kind of medications?
That's another good question.
Was it related to any kind of transitioning?
These are questions we need to know, and it's not hard to guess what the answers will be.
How many more kids will be murdered before we admit that trans people are domestic terrorists?
Or they're a domestic terror threat, I should say.
This is not a new phenomenon.
Remember Anderson Lee Aldrich?
He was the Colorado Springs killer who shot up that nightclub called Club Q. How did he identify?
Non-binary.
And he murdered five people.
Ten months ago, a woman by the name of Audrey Hale went to the Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee and murdered six people, three children and three adults.
Of course, you all know this story by now.
Audrey was a trans terrorist who had bought into the rainbow propaganda and the anti-white discrimination that permeates our culture.
Thanks to part of her crazed manifesto leaking, we now know she was obsessed with white privilege and targeted the Presbyterian school because the children there were white, quote, crackers, end quote.
The brainwashing is so powerful that And demonic, by the way, and we don't need to forget that.
That's what we're dealing with.
So demonic that it convinced a white woman to pretend that she's a man and then convinced her to hate the color of her skin, which no doubt made her think her race-targeted killing spree was some kind of virtue.
I'm willing to see the evil of my whiteness, and I'm going to go kill other white people.
It's crazy.
It's Charles Manson-level stuff.
Of course, it wasn't virtuous.
It was crazed narcissism.
And it's narcissism on a level we may never have seen before.
And that really is one word that could sum up this trans movement and their propensity for violence.
Narcissism.
A generation of people obsessed with themselves and their own personal sexuality and sex religion.
And where does it all lead?
Literally death.
It leads to literal death.
As we've mentioned before, though, the trans movement is fundamentally based on the sin of covetousness.
They covet being another sex or another gender.
In the case of basic homosexuality, which is a phrase I can't even believe that I'm saying, you covet the same sex which is outside of God's order.
And if you really want to know who can articulate this best, back in November of 2023, a former lesbian turned Christian and author, her name is Rosaria Butterfield.
She gave a speech.
I want to be clear, this is not a sermon.
This is a speech giving her conversion testimony to the students at Liberty University.
Watch.
I started to think about what this meant for me and my friends long term.
The Bible makes clear that we are male and female image bearers of a holy God whose soul and sex are ontological.
They will go beyond this earth.
But what about my friend Matthew?
Well, from the Bible's point of view, if someone has mutilated his own body in the name of transgender delusion, but then repents of the sin of transgenderism, of the envy to be that which God has told you you cannot be, and puts his full trust in Jesus Christ living in obedience to God's commands, His mutilated body will be resurrected in Christ to perfected glory when Christ returns.
And he will live as the man he was intended to be for eternity in the new Jerusalem.
You see, the Bible throws no one away and neither should Christians.
But the Bible sets the terms of God's blessing.
God cannot be mocked.
So what does the Bible record as the sin of homosexuality and transgenderism if not physically acted upon?
Well, that sin is the violation of the Tenth Commandment.
You are not to covet your neighbor's wife or his sexual anatomy.
And desiring someone or something that God prohibits even before you act sexually or medically upon that desire is the sin of covetousness.
How devastating it was for me to realize that God had provided an entire commandment prohibiting the very thing I had given myself over to.
One of the things, it's very powerful, and again, we're going to listen to a little bit more here in just a minute, but one of the things you need to know, and maybe you don't know this, is the slow creep that wokeism is infecting evangelical churches that are still holding true.
There are those out there that are still holding true to the authority of Scripture and things like that.
But one of the ways the gay community has, and again, forgive me, the gay enclave, one of the ways that they are infiltrating the church is there are evangelical leaders that are sympathetic to their plight, and they're trying to tell them that it's only if you act on it.
It's only if you act on your desires.
Then it's sin.
But if you think those desires, it's somehow not sin.
And this is the foot in the door.
Once a church adopts that and says, well, you know, we'll just let this pastor, he's celibate, he's attracted to men, but he doesn't act on it.
Every church that does that ends up fully embracing.
You just go look.
Ends up fully embracing open sodomy, open gay marriage, and that's just how it goes.
And so it's part of the slippery slope, and you can see it in denominations historically all across this country.
But what Rosaria Butterfield is saying here, again, back in November at Liberty University, is saying, you know, no.
Thinking those thoughts, wanting, desiring them, is, in fact, you're coveting, and you're trying to covet something outside it.
And, you know, it's really basic.
If you just open the Bible...
But Jesus said, he said in his own words, look, you know, you think that if you go murder somebody, that that's a sin, and it is.
But I say that even if you have anger in your heart, you're guilty of the sin of murder.
So if you think and you get angry, you're guilty, right?
If you go commit adultery, that's wrong.
But if you have lust in your heart, you're also sinning.
And these people are trying to play these mental gymnastics to make those words not mean what they clearly mean, Also, we can leave people in their sin.
It's not the loving thing to do to leave people in their sin.
A little bit more of this.
Coveting that which was not mine to possess.
I had taught, studied, read, and lived a very different notion of what it meant to be a woman and a lesbian.
And for the first time, I wondered if I was wrong.
And after a year of wrestling with the Bible and meeting weekly with my Christian neighbors, two events unfolded that changed my life forever.
The first was the moment the Gospel revealed that I was Christ's enemy, that I was the enemy of my Christian neighbors, and that they loved me nonetheless.
The second event was a growing reality that the Bible had gotten to be bigger inside me than I. Allow me to explain.
Her Christian testimony is one of the most powerful testimonies that is a giant thorn in the side of these Christians who are trying to apologize for the sin of homosexuality and trying to make it less...
Some of these heretics, they'll even say, you know, the Bible just...
It whispers.
It whispers about sexual sin.
It doesn't actually...
It's just crazy.
Like, go read Romans 1 and everything else.
Last clip here, and I encourage you guys to get this book.
Rosaria Butterfield, the woman that you just heard, and, you know, if you watch that full—it's like a 47-minute speech to Liberty University.
If you watch the full thing, you will be moved by it, especially if you're a Christian.
She's got a book out called Five Lies, and these are the five lies that she covers in her book.
And to say that they're based is an understatement.
God has allowed me to be a wife and a mother and a grandmother.
applause A pastor's wife and a servant in the church.
I count my family and church as God's greatest earthly blessings to me.
And I have come to learn that while homosexuality is part of my biography, it is not part of my nature.
But the world that we live in, our anti-Christian age, disagrees.
It believes once gay, always gay, along with a host of other lies.
If I had a dollar for how many times some gay Christian told me that my problem is internalized homophobia, I'd be a really wealthy woman.
Indeed, five lies of our anti-Christian age have coiled their way from the world to the church.
And I have nothing to stand on.
I used to believe all of these lies at once.
And what are the five lies?
Well, we just covered one of them.
Homosexuality is normal.
The second lie is that pagan spirituality is kind and inclusive.
The third lie is that feminism is good for the church and the world.
That should get a little something out of you guys.
I'll take it.
The fourth lie is that transgenderism is normal.
And the fifth lie is that modesty for women is outdated and dangerous.
You know what that plays into?
That plays into the calendar gate that went on over the Christmas break is whether or not this Con Inc.
beer company should be selling, you know, bikini models in a calendar to try to get conservative dads to buy their beer and buy their calendar.
There was a great conversation about modesty that was to be had, and libertarians, they weren't the biggest fan of that modesty.
They didn't agree.
They thought we were a bunch of prudes saying, hey, look, what are we actually conserving here?
And on the Stu Peters Network, Anna Perez of Wrong Think and Stu talked about that at length.
It's a very good interview, and it's on this Rumble channel if you want to check it out.
What Rosaria Butterfield is saying there are those five lies that are creeping into the church.
She's exactly right.
It's happening.
The good news is there's resistance that's mounting across all denominations.
Well, maybe not all, but across denominations that are saying, hey, look, we can't do this.
Yeah.
And there are little miniature battles being fought all over the place, and victories and defeats, but I think the sicker and sicker and sicker the world gets.
If you just look at what we were just talking about with this tragedy and the trans-terrorists, the media doesn't want to have the national conversation.
The media does not want to have this conversation.
But you can draw a line here, a trajectory here, that...
This is happening because, in many cases, so many churches over time have failed to preach the gospel, so we have less and less Christian people in this country and more and more susceptible to the new religions,
the re-paganization of the West, and that's why you have people falling for the trans-propaganda and This is a big yada yada yada, but yada yada yada going and shooting up schools in the name of transgenderism because it's creating a mental illness.
And that's the conversation that we need to have.
The media does not want to have it, though.
They will see that the trans kids need to transition because they're suicidal, completely ignoring the fact that many of them still commit suicide after their genital mutilating procedures because, shocker, they still don't feel quite right.
But here's the main point.
Suicide is an act of violence against yourself.
And if you're willing to commit violence against yourself, you are also more prone to commit violence against others.
We need to pray for peace and healing for those in this recent Iowa shooting, including the one in Nashville as well.
That was, you know, 10 months ago.
Pray for peace.
Pray for God to bind up what's broken in the midst of what I can't even imagine.
The loss of loved ones, the loss of children especially.
In the meantime, we're going to continue to push for the full release of that trans manifesto because I have a suspicion that it wasn't just about race.
It wasn't just about crackers and white people.
I think it was also about Christians, specifically Christians passing laws, outlawing the trans lifestyle for minors.
And I think you're going to eventually find that that was part of it as well, part of the anti-Christian and anti-white Right, what do they say?
White Christian men, white Christian men.
We are the focus now of all of the world's problems and they just continue to pile on and pile on.
Let's go to the screen here.
You have, let's see here, where did his tweet go?
Here it is, right here.
End wokeness.
We referenced this tweet earlier, but I'm going to go ahead and throw it back up on the screen here.
There you see the mass shooter at Perry High has been identified as Dylan Butler.
It appears that the shooter was an online LGBTQ activist and part of the Enclave.
Part of the Enclave.
Watch the story disappear in 3-2-1.
And so there you see the female avatar.
There's the rainbow flag.
We see the rainbow flag in the profile pic there.
We also have another clip here.
So this is what this guy looks like.
I don't know.
Is that a gang?
Is it some sort of LGBT gang symbol?
And then we have another avatar here, same person.
There is a he-they, and there's another rainbow flag.
And then what do we have here?
Another avatar of a woman.
So if you had any doubt, I didn't cut to that stuff while I was going over the monologue, but I just wanted you to know that it is, in fact, there.
And it is very, very disturbing.
And we had...
I know we had this tweet here.
This is Joshua Smith from Break the Cycle.
He tweeted about this the other day.
Teachers shouldn't be expected to protect the children they're responsible for all day.
This was about...
This was back in the...
Let's see if we can't find that tweet somewhere.
Here it is.
Okay, sorry.
This is the tweet I was looking for.
My apologies.
17-year-old Dylan Butler, the Perry, Iowa school shooter, was a very public trans activist with a prominent activist social media presence that has been scrubbed almost entirely.
Okay, so we know they don't want to cover this.
Iowa is one of the very few states that allow school administrators to be armed, thankfully.
So, I didn't know this, but the shooting lasted less than three minutes from the initial gunshot to suicide, according to him.
Cops were inside the building within seven minutes of the initial report and the shooter was already dead.
I will be very surprised if the shooter was not drawn on prior to unaliving himself.
And then he says, arm school administrators.
So yeah, we will see.
We'll wait for more.
I don't have any of the latest details on that specifically, but I certainly want to keep following that.
And again, we've got to keep pushing for this national conversation because this is absolutely insane right now.
This is absolutely insane.
We are in the midst of...
Their propaganda is working so well.
The media cheers it on.
They disseminate it.
The medical community claps like seals when they're doing these horrible procedures.
They're putting these people on these chemical castration drugs.
It is absolutely sick what's going on, right?
And at the same time this is all happening, there's increasingly violent trans people.
They're lashing out.
I have predicted that it's going to continue because red Christian states or Christian red states are not going to stop.
They're not going to stop.
Shootings like this, it's not going to make legislators and lawmakers say, Oh, okay, yeah, transing kids is okay.
That's a right.
That's live and let live.
We just need to let that happen.
That's not going to stop these.
So there's going to be more laws.
Again, we need to open up the child abuse statutes.
We need to put the transing children under child abuse statutes.
And this will accomplish two things, as I've said many times.
This will accomplish two things.
Number one, it will protect children.
Don't think that it won't, because it will.
There will be parents who recognize, like once you pass the law, there will be parents that may be tempted to do this to their kid.
This, what is it, Munchausen syndrome by proxy?
They may be tended to do this.
But when the law goes on the books, I think they'll quickly abandon it when they realize, wow, this is criminal if I do this?
If I actually go to California or New York where these procedures are legal, and I come back and I want to live in a Christian red state, I'm not going to be able to?
Without being prosecuted for it?
If people find out?
Have to live in secrecy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So first of all, the first thing it accomplishes is it protects children because it will discourage parents.
Now there will be some parents, if you ever got this controversial law in the books, which is common sense, because if you really ask people about it, this is what's so funny.
Is it child abuse?
People say yes, 100%.
Okay, well then let's open up the child abuse statutes and let's put it under there.
Because they know what kind of battle.
You talk about violent outrage.
The violent outrage is going to be even worse from these people when these bills start getting passed.
Okay.
So, first thing that protects kids, discourages parents from it.
And then you're going to have people who are moving from blue states in droves, right?
They're running away from blue states.
And let's hope that most of the ones that are actually leaving the blue states change their voting behavior.
But I have a feeling a lot of them won't.
And inevitably you're going to have people that leave and they're going to be looking for a red state to locate to because where they're coming from is essentially a hellhole.
Been ruined by satanic policies.
Okay.
Well...
If you have these laws on the books, it will keep the crazy people out.
If they believe that a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man, and they believe that child transitioning is a good thing and it's health care, these laws will keep those people out of your state, which, again, is a good thing.
And then the third thing it does, and look, I know, because when I've gamed this law idea out, I've done it many times, when I've gamed it out, I have realized that If you do prosecute people for child abuse and you do bring the law after them, the state inevitably is going to have to either force them to quit doing the drugs or quit doing the transition.
And if they continue to do it, at some point you've got to take the child away.
And I know that's a whole other can of worms because of the pedophilic tendencies of child protective services.
In all 50 states, quite frankly, right?
So I know that's a pitfall.
We've got to reform and we've got to find a way to get these human traffickers and these demons out of our, you know, child protective services, for sure.
But the other thing that it does do is it does mean, and these are the implications of it, and there may be some people that try to run these laws and they don't want to address what it will actually do, but it will mean that if you take your kid from a red state that has these laws on the books and go to California or go to New York, you try to come back and you live here and you've done that to your kid, that will be considered child abuse, right?
And there would be prosecutions, I suspect.
Maybe not.
Maybe just passing the law would shake people out of this.
I mean, people are just brainwashed by this idea.
And a lot of people are scared to speak up, but that is fast going the way of the dodo as well, which is good.
Real quick, before we go to break, and by the way, at the break we're going to be listening to Stu Peters from yesterday interviewed a man by the name of Clint Russell.
They had a great conversation about Donald Trump being removed from the ballot and everything that the deep state, our corrupt government, Everything they have planned, all of the different scenarios that they may have planned for 2024, as we talked about at the top of the show.
So we're going to play that during the break.
And then when we come back, we're going to be talking to former Trump administration official William Wolfe.
William Wolfe wrote a fantastic piece.
Let's go ahead and just kind of show it to you.
He wrote a fantastic piece about Francis Collins.
Many of you may not know who Francis Collins is.
Francis Collins is Anthony Fauci's boss.
You don't really hear a lot about him.
You hear about Anthony Fauci poisoning people with remdesivir.
He should be charged, be investigated and charged.
So should Francis Collins.
So should Francis Collins.
He recently came out and tried to make some sort of admission of mistake or whatever, but William Wolfe just takes him to task on it and says, look, you are not actually repenting here.
You are just trying to pivot because you still want the authority.
You still want the power.
You still want the recognition and the, you know, the estately place among intellectual elites.
And if you were really repentant, then you would relinquish that and you would start to follow those who were right the entire time about COVID and COVID-19 and all these tyrannical policies.
That's what you would do.
And so, we're going to be talking here, coming up in just a minute, we're going to be talking with William Wolfe.
You do not want to miss it.
It's always great to talk to him.
Before we go to break, though, just a little bit more from Rosaria Butterfield.
I'm telling you guys, you've got to check this out.
These lies which have entered the church and the Christian college have one thing in common.
They discourage repentance of sin and they encourage the pride of victimhood.
And these lies have a subtle appearance because Satan is a liar who specializes in the persuasive lie of the half-truth.
Let me give you some examples.
Have you ever heard that same-sex attraction is a sinless temptation and only a sin if you act on it?
Or that people who experience same-sex attraction are actually gay Christians called to lifelong celibacy.
Or that people who experience same-sex attraction rarely, if ever, change and therefore should never pursue heterosexual marriage.
Or that sex and gender are different and that God doesn't care about whether men live as men and women live as women because all you need to do is grow in the fruit of the Spirit as though the fruit of the Holy Spirit can grow from sin.
I have heard all of these lies, and just in the last year, from Christian ministries.
And this is where I name names, and I'm an English professor, so I call this "Citing My Sources." Revoice.
Preston Sprinkle's Exiles in Babylon conference sponsored by his heretical Center for Faith, Sexuality and Gender and CRU. I got three seats people.
And I have believed these lies too and not only as a Christian and I have repented publicly as a Christian in my book to you in articles and these people can do the same.
We don't throw people away.
But without repentance, we don't trust them.
Again, that was Rosaria Butterfield back in November.
You should check the whole speech out.
She was not giving a sermon.
She was giving a speech about her conversion story to Liberty University and the students at Liberty University.
You know, the university that the left loves to hate because it's a Christian university.
You know, that university.
Hey, coming up at the top of the hour, Stu Peters is going to be talking with Bobby Pyton.
Going to be talking about that.
Also, Pastor Steve Anderson back on the Stu Peters Show coming up here in just a minute.
Going to be talking about the Star of Rimfan versus the Star of David.
Is the Star of David in the Bible?
They're going to be talking about that.
But we've got to take a break.
When we come back, William Wolfe will be with us.
Don't go anywhere.
That's what's unfolding in front of us right now.
This is a loud, bold public offensive by the power structures that control this nation with an agenda of nullifying the Constitution and all elections in America forever.
Clint Russell hosts the podcast Liberty Lockdown and he joins us now.
Clint, am I overstating any of this?
Unfortunately, no.
In fact, I think that there's a chance that you're understating it.
Happy New Year, by the way.
I think that this could be really the last year of the American nation, just simply because...
If they succeed in keeping Trump off the ballot, well, then you don't have democracy.
Then how can you really expect the country to stay together if you have half or more, I would argue, more of the population that feels as if they have no electoral recourse to redress their grievances?
Well, then you can expect there to be violence.
And I think that's really what this is...
You mentioned a bunch of potential knock-on consequences.
I think that's the one thing you didn't mention is that the war on terror that was announced after 9-11, I believe strongly, has already been domesticated, has already been turned inward against the American people.
My expectation is that they are trying to catalyze Some sort of domestic terroristic event, even if they have to make it a false flag, so that then they can truly bring the war on terror home.
They're already spying on us.
They're already surveilling us.
They're already having the FBI go to parent-teacher conferences and stuff like that.
They've already had informants and provocations on J6.
They've already demonstrated that they're willing to take this very far.
I think you're exactly right, though, that it's highly probable that they will use this to justify packing the Supreme Court.
And if Trump manages to get into the White House, he won't.
Well, I'm just saying, if he were to, by some miracle, well, I think that then you see a summer of love like 2020, but 2, 3, 4, 5x.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Trump getting in, I don't think, is a victory, just to be honest with you.
That's fair, too.
This is the guy that's got Kushner right next to him and smooching the whaling wall.
This is the guy that locked the country down.
He's very easily influenced by the power structure that seems to be looming over this entire country in every single facet, everywhere that you look.
And so, I mean, and then you've got the Vivek, Ramalama, Ding Dong, Deep State guy, you know, like an AI version bot just regurgitating everything that everybody wants to hear.
It's all fake.
Everything is fake.
But I don't think, I don't agree with you that this is going to be the last year of our republic.
I've got, there's, I just, I feel it.
I can see it.
I can feel like victory coming.
And I'm very optimistic.
I wasn't.
I was very black-pilled.
You know, just honestly, I mean, you look everywhere you look.
I mean, you mentioned some of the FBI going to parent-teacher conferences.
School board meetings, and you see, like, patriots that are peacefully protesting on a police-guided tour through the People's House, otherwise known as the Capitol, that are just, like, without due process sitting in a gulag and being treated worse than the fake terrorists that we were led to believe took the towers down, when, in fact, you know, I won't forget who was dancing on 9-11, the Israelis.
You know, and then you see the indoctrination of our children and the literal, like, child molestation.
During this month where we celebrate a sin called pride so that homosexuals can, you know, put their genitalia in front of their face and commit lewd and lascivious conduct and criminal sexual conduct.
And that's supposed to be okay while the police stand back and they actually protect these people who are committing these crimes.
And then you see the intentionally open border.
This is treason.
You know, I mean, it's just it's also so and then elections being as fake as they are.
And rigged, so you're like, yeah, well, what are we going to do to fix this problem?
And I don't know what it looks like, Clint.
I can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm optimistic because for the first time in like 50 years, more and more people are publicly naming the real enemy to the people Zionism.
And so with that awareness, I think that that could put pressure on a political candidate or even office holder.
Say it's Trump.
I think they're going to kill him.
I think that they will absolutely murder him.
But if they don't, and if some by divine miracle, like you said, this guy gets back into office, I think that he's a person that given public pressure with awareness, like, hey, no, no, no, you can't lie to us anymore.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
Thank you so much for being with us here on the Millstone Report.
Earlier in the week, I previewed 2024 and what may be coming.
Millions of Americans are bracing themselves for chaos because this is an election year and they know the deep state wants to preserve their power at any cost.
But as I said on Tuesday, we must not allow our neighbors to forget what they did to us in 2020.
Many of you are aware and familiar with Anthony Fauci.
He was the public face of tyranny and the leader of every single overreach we experienced during the COVID pandemic.
He is responsible not only for pushing the deadly jabs, but he recommended remdesivir, which shut down the kidneys of COVID patients, ensuring profitable deaths for hospitals.
Fauci is a criminal and should be tried and convicted of murder, in my opinion.
But what about Fauci's boss?
Fauci's boss is a man named Francis Collins.
Recently, Francis Collins made some remarks that are turning heads about how he handled COVID. What?
As a guy living inside the Beltway, feeling this sense of crisis, trying to decide what to do in some situation room in the White House with people who had data that was incomplete, We weren't really thinking about what that would mean to Wilk and his family in Minnesota, a thousand miles away from where the virus was hitting so hard.
We weren't really considering the consequences in communities that were not New York City or some other big city.
The public health people, we talked about this earlier, and this is a really important point.
If you're a public health person and you're trying to make a decision, You have this very narrow view of what the right decision is, and that is something that will save a life.
Doesn't matter what else happens.
So you attach infinite value to stopping the disease and saving a life.
You attach a zero value to whether this actually totally disrupts people's lives, ruins the economy, and has many kids kept out of school in a way that they never quite recover from.
Collateral damage.
Collateral damage.
This is a public health mindset, and I think a lot of us involved in trying to make those recommendations had that mindset, and that was really unfortunate.
That's another mistake we made.
Hmm, a mistake.
Does that sound like an apology or just an admission?
Former Trump administration official William Wolfe doesn't think so.
In a recent piece entitled, The Art of the Pivot, How Failed Leaders Like Francis Collins Are Trying to Duck Responsibility for the COVID Disaster, he writes in part, quote, Over the next year, many public figures who were horribly wrong on COVID will backtrack.
This will include both pastors and And public officials.
So Christians need to learn to spot the difference between what we call repentance and what could be termed a pivot.
The art of the pivot is already on full display in the recent comments by Francis Collins.
The former director of the National Institutes of Health and one of the chief architects of the waking COVID nightmare we all live through, end quote.
So former Trump administration official and fighter of wokeness in the Southern Baptist Convention, William Wolfe, joins us now to share more.
William, thank you so much for coming on the Millstone Report.
We really appreciate it.
Good to be back here with you, Paul.
So, you know, those comments, I've read your article.
It's fantastic.
It's up at standingforfreedom.com, and we can go over it, but what were your initial thoughts when you first heard those comments by Francis Collins?
Yeah, I couldn't believe it, quite frankly.
He takes no real responsibility for the policies that were implemented under his authority and with his guidance that destroyed our economy, shut down our schools, arguably harmed many people's Francis
Collins embodies the Beltway elite mindset.
And his policies were a disaster.
And it's not really an apology at all.
I think you realize this.
It is a pivot.
It's a chance for him to try to save face and to continue to be a part of this conversation, get a mic, get a stage, and just hand way a wave his incredible responsibility in this.
Yeah, I mean, you're right.
Some may interpret this.
One second.
You're right.
Some may interpret these remarks as what appears to be a change of heart.
Collins is admitting a mistake.
Not so fast.
If you look closely, all you see is a vague admission that things might have been a tad askew.
Even worse, he outright admits that he was operating in a very myopic, beltway, and big city-focused mindset with no thought or care given to how the proposed and ineffective mitigation measures might impact millions and millions of average Americans.
You know, but here's this other thing about Francis Collins, and I want to get your thoughts on this.
There are some in the evangelical world that look at Francis Collins, who claims to be a Christian, as the model way to live out your life as a public official in government.
Do you agree with that?
Well, absolutely not.
I mean, and that's also why I wrote the article and the framing that I did, contrasting, pivoting with true repentance, because Collins claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ.
And yet we know through excellent reporting done by Megan Basham at The Daily Wire, that under Francis' watch at the NIH, The funds were going to horrific experiments, including those that sought to graft the scalps of aborted babies onto rats, money that went to experiments on quote-unquote transgender teenagers, some of which resulted in suicides.
And so his track record before COVID was not only questionable, but was truly unchristian and horrific.
And yet we see people particularly like Tim Keller, And many others in the evangelical world holding up Collins as somehow a model of a faithful public servant.
I'm aware of Bible studies that happened in D.C. that included people like Francis Collins, Russell Moore, and others.
And so it's the same cabal of men that congratulate each other for the way that they essentially launder liberal-leaning I think Francis Collins, far from being an example of a Christian public servant, is truly quite the opposite of what any Christian man or woman should aspire to be in public service.
I completely agree with you.
Here, back on this article that you wrote, true repentance, a humble admission, contrasts the pivot with the biblical concept of repentance.
An act that involves more than a change in rhetoric, but a genuine transformation of the heart, you write.
Repentance is not a strategic maneuver, but a humble admission of personal faults and acknowledgement that one is strayed from the path of truth.
A broken and contrite heart is an essential element of true repentance.
And then you write, nowhere in this video clip can we find genuine repentance from Collins.
He doesn't ask for forgiveness.
He doesn't confess his lies.
He just waves a hand at the millions of lives destroyed, all direct consequences of his actions and stemming from a public health mindset.
It seems like it was like an excuse made.
It was like, well, we were just trying to save as many lives as possible.
That seems to be what they're hiding behind.
They're still hiding behind this medical...
I don't know, I call them, it's like a new high priestly class in a way.
The priests of our day wear white coats and are doctors and really you can't question them.
And I just find that ridiculously offensive considering the fact that the last three years has been a complete failure, a complete exposing of the medical community really not having the best interest in terms of the top, for sure.
And then you have a lot of, quite frankly, useful idiots at the bottom.
I mean, a communistic A medical system that was built right under our nose.
And when COVID happened, they flipped the switch, you know?
But yeah, I think these guys are hiding behind this.
They're still hiding behind the trust that we're supposed to have, this reverence for doctors.
And I think they're totally tone deaf.
They don't understand that there has been serious destruction of that trust.
And I don't even know if they'll ever get it back, quite frankly.
What are your thoughts, William?
Yeah, well, I don't even want to grant to Francis Collins or Anthony Fauci that they were intent on quote-unquote saving lives.
I mean, that's what they say, but the reality is that if they really were interested in saving lives, they would have allowed herd immunity to grow, they would have recommended proven treatments like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, and they would have allowed people to continue to live their lives outside of the most A small section of the highest risk individuals who maybe are in bad health or particularly overweight,
those are older, those are the people most impacted by COVID. Instead, they made three-year-olds wear double masks and sit in bubbles at school.
And so I can't even grant this framing for them because they were wrong from the start.
And I think it's really important, Paul, that we recognize that in modern American policy, public health policy really is just a euphemism for control.
They're not really interested in public health.
They're interested in shaping the society and controlling it according to the whims of bureaucratic managerial elites tucked away in Washington, D.C. offices and have no skin in the game, again, for the folks in Minnesota or Alabama or North Dakota, etc.
And so this entire system is corrupt and needs to be exposed.
And I think we've seen a lot of that happening over the last few years, given the nature of the COVID disaster.
Hopefully more to come.
I want Americans to fundamentally distrust public health officials.
I think that's exactly right.
I think that's exactly right.
And I want...
Honestly, I want these men to be charged for crimes against humanity.
That's what I want.
I think that's what they participated in.
And you look at somebody like, you know, Anthony Fauci, who's the public face, but a lot of people don't know Francis Collins, and they give him a pass, quite frankly.
A lot in the evangelical community, they give him a pass for what happened.
I mean, not to mention just the ecclesiastical harm that was done by a lot of pastors that just trusted.
And that's their fault.
I'm not excusing that.
They just blindly trusted the science and just went along and closed their churches for months and months, if not a year.
I'm not trying to excuse that, but there's certainly harm done there.
But if you look at the fact that People died because of these decisions that they made, not just with Anthony Fauci, but just, honestly, Francis Collins is his boss.
I mean, how do you get around this?
How do these evangelical minds still continue to give Francis Collins a pass here?
Well, isn't that the million dollar question in the American evangelical world right now?
In fact, after Tim Keller passed away, an outlet, I'm not entirely sure which one, it was either Gospel Coalition or Christianity Today, one of the two, so don't hold me to it, had Francis Collins publish a eulogy of Tim Keller.
And so it's really rather an incestuous relationship that's built on this trust that's been brokered between evangelical elites and worldly elites, secular elites, and Colin sort of straddles that too.
And they view themselves really, like you mentioned, as sort of an enlightened class that's here to lead us backwards, knuckle-dragging Southern Baptists and American fundamentalists into a more open and progressive and scientific era.
And they're wrong.
And the thing is, they can't admit they're wrong because then that aura of credibility and that enlightened class status will dissipate.
And these men, they want the seat at the table and they're not willing to give it up.
And so I think accountability has to keep happening.
That's why I wrote the article that I did.
Toby Sumter is a pastor out in Moscow, Idaho.
He gave an excellent talk on Francis Collins at the latest Fight, Laugh, Feast conference.
And I would highly recommend it because he takes him to task.
If more people would hear that, Yeah, I will definitely check that out.
And I never thought I'd put a PETA article up on this show.
But I mean, here's this other one.
PETA has been exposing NIH atrocities since 1981.
And in this particular one, they have the beagles.
I mean, I know you mentioned the stuff with human fetal tissue.
And yes, that is outrageous.
But how does, you know, how does this happen?
You are literally overseeing, you're the head of the NIH, Francis Collins, and you're overseeing, you know, putting beagles' heads in cages and basically allowing sand flies, you know, you subdate the dogs and then you allow sand flies to eat them to death.
And, you know, this kind of goes back to, you know, whatever you want to call it, you know, I just think being a Christian in public life, like, right, if you're a dog catcher and you're a Christian, be a Christian dog catcher.
If you're a president, you know, be a Christian president.
If you're the head of the NIH. But the truth of the matter is...
If that was the mentality of Francis Collins, he would have never been appointed by Barack Obama in the first place.
You don't get that job if you're going to actually allow what the Bible says to influence what experiments are ethical and what experiments are not.
Yeah, that's right.
I think Francis Collins is a good example of the type of Christian that essentially leaves his faith at home or at church when he enters the public square.
And when he does so, he actually takes on an entire new faith, a new metaphysic, the metaphysic of public health, of quote-unquote science and the data, which operates sort of as the Bible for people like these.
I mean, he even admits that the data was incomplete, but he just again sort of hand waves it away.
We could think of, you know, Deborah Birx and the way that she publicly admitted in one of her recent books that people like Collins and Fauci and herself were trying to mislead the president and just get him to buy into things like, you know, two weeks to flatten the curve when they never intended for it to only be two weeks.
And so Collins was in ensconced in that environment.
Of these people who really operate according to a different religion, a scientific religion.
It reminds me of That Hideous Strength by C.S. Lewis and the way that they try to bring about a new era of humanity through scientific progress.
And it really seems that that's the way that Francis Collins operates.
Okay, before we go, one more thing.
I want to show one more snippet of this article that you wrote because I think it's really powerful.
Because we also need to remember that Fauci and Collins, after all of this...
You know, skipped town.
They're retired.
They're gone, right?
They don't want to have to answer for any of this.
You're right.
Even though Collins has retired from his role as the director of NIH, he clearly still wants a seat at the table.
And so many of these guys do.
I mean, they want a seat at the cultural table.
And we saw this in the 20s and the 30s with theological liberalism.
And now a lot of these guys say, well, we're not theologically liberal, but it's the same thing.
It comes from the same idea that they really, truly want to be relevant.
They want a cultural seat at the table.
And the only way to get that cultural seat is to compromise and sacrifice what the Bible actually says about man, about God, and specifically about our sin.
Repentance in its biblical essence, you write, is not a mere acknowledgement of wrongdoing, but a willingness to follow those who have walked in the light of truth.
Like, I don't know, people that didn't close their churches.
You know, scientists that, you know, and you mentioned this in your article, there were scientists that Francis Collins tried to censor and hush who were coming out and saying that what they were doing was wrong.
So, You're right, the one who repents recognizes the error of his ways and is easier to align himself with the path of righteousness regardless of who leads the way.
If Collins was really repenting and not just pivoting, he would yield the COVID conversation over to those who got it right from the drop.
Scientists like Stanford's Jay, do you care to pronounce his last name for me, William?
I think it's Bhattacharya.
And then you've got cardiologist Peter McCullough, vaccine experts like Robert Malone and others.
And then you write, Matthew 23, 12 reminds us that whoever exalts himself will be humbled and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
And quote, true repentance necessitates a humbling of oneself.
Those who genuinely repent recognize the need to step back to follow those who were right when they were wrong.
The effort to preserve a leadership position is a key telltale I mean, William, we see this so much in our community today.
There's never any consequences, right?
I mean, you may get the Harvard president, Gay, to resign, right?
And she's no longer president, but then she gets a parachute deal, and she's even retained in staff, right?
The people who control things are in positions of power and They never actually get the consequences when they totally screw up.
Well, that's right.
And I think there's only so many things that we can do about it, right, from our positions.
But one of the things that I'm particularly interested in, in the evangelical world, and particularly in the Southern Baptist Convention, is that we sort of extract the consequences that are appropriate to extract that are within our control.
And that begins by doing things like No longer platforming Francis Collins, no longer publishing his pieces.
The men out there, particularly the Christian men who held him up as a paragon of Christian faithful public service, they should retract those statements and apologize for them.
We need a new class of leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention and American evangelicalism Who are not going to be bullied into submission by fancy titles and cushy government posts, but are willing to stand on the word of God, declare what is true, and that involves calling people to repentance.
We think of John the Baptist.
John the Baptist was not ultimately jailed because he was preaching the gospel of the coming Jesus Christ.
He was jailed because he called Herod a public official to repentance for his adultery.
And that's the type of leadership that we need here in the 21st century.
Amen.
William Wolfe, we really appreciate it.
Will you tell the Millstone Report audience where people can follow you on Twitter?
What's your handle over there?
Yeah, my handle is William underscore E underscore Wolfe with an E on X, formerly known as Twitter.
You can also find a lot of the articles I write at Standing for Freedom Center.
All right, William Wolfe, thank you so much.
Let's do it again soon, okay?
Thank you.
All righty, folks, don't go anywhere.
We're Milstone Report back here in just a moment.
All right, welcome back.
Wrapping up tonight's show.
Really appreciate you being with us.
We told you earlier that one of the key things that's kind of been left out or one of the things that was shocking to me about the news of the Iowa shooter and the trans Iowa shooter once again is...
He brought an explosive device.
He brought a bomb to the school.
I mean, National Files Frankie Stocks, real quick before we go.
Here we go.
Transmass shooter planted an IED in Iowa school.
The transmass shooter in Perry, Iowa, used tactics often seen on the battlefields of the Middle East.
The trans or gender fluid mass shooter who killed one and injured five more in his January 4th attack on Perry High School planted an improvised explosive device in the school to inflict maximum damage against his peers.
But the bomb never went off and was rendered safe by the ATF. The trans shooter, Dylan Butler, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to reports.
In one of their rather limited communications with the press, Iowa authorities announced that trans and sometimes gender-fluid mass shooter Dylan Butler, who used he-they pronouns, planted an improvised explosive device commonly known as an IED. Just unbelievable how, and again, the national conversation, ladies and gentlemen, that needs to take place here, the media, they don't want to have it.
They don't want to have it.
They're just going to double down even more, and it's going to be up to the states to do something about it.
Your individual state.
Hopefully you live in a red state.
If you don't, you need to think about moving to a red state if you can, honestly.
Because it's just getting...
There was that California state representative or state senator that said, I've stayed here and I fought.
He's a Republican.
But now I'm telling people to leave.
You guys need to leave.
And it was the one where they wanted to give custody to parents and...
Divorce cases.
They wanted to give custody to the parent that used the pronouns, the made-up pronouns of the trans kid.
And he says, you know, if they're going to do that, we've just got to leave.
We cannot allow this because eventually you pass so many laws that it just becomes a tyranny.
Coming up here on the Stu Peters show, Pastor Steve Anderson from Arizona is going to be back talking with Stu.
He's been on there, I think, one time before Christmas.
He's going to be back on, and they're going to be talking about Specifically, the Star of David versus the Star of Remphan.
And whether or not the Star of David, or rather, why the Star of David that you see on the secular nation state of Israel's flag?
Why isn't that star in the Bible?
That's the question that they're going to be discussing.
Coming up on the Stu Peters Show, that starts in just a moment.
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