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Dec. 13, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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Alex Jones RETURNS to X! Elon UnBans, Epic Convo with Vivek, Elon, Andrew Tate, Tucker
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Well, due to popular demand, Alex Jones, the legend himself, is let back on Twitter.
Now, yes, Alex Jones has finally been unblocked, unbanned, uncensored, and allowed back on Twitter.
Due to Elon Musk allowing him, and he did one of his famous polls, should we let Alex Jones back on Twitter or not?
And overwhelmingly, people supported him and said, yes, we should have him back on.
So that's great.
As of Monday, Alex Jones is now back on XTV. With free speech and all, we'll see how free that speech really is or if there's going to be a lot of shadow banning and behind-the-scenes manipulation going on.
But here to talk about this and give his reaction and more and what this means for the election cycle and for free speech itself is Jay Dyer.
Jay Dyer hosts the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show, and he's a comedian and public conservative author himself, and we go down lots of rabbit holes.
Thanks so much for joining us again.
Jay Dyer, how's it going?
Thank you, Diana.
Great to be back.
Glad to see Alex back.
I know that we were all kind of waiting for that.
So this is, I think, a small victory.
Yeah, what do you think?
I mean, so obviously it's kind of long overdue.
He should have, I think Elon should have let him back a long time ago if he's really truly a free speech absolutionist.
But what do you think about the timing of it and what is your reaction to him being back on X? Yeah, I think Alex said something like he thought maybe it was a middle finger even more, like a more extended middle finger because, you know, he had that recent interview Elon did where he told that guy to go F off and...
Yeah, F the sponsor.
Apology tour, if you will.
This had been said online.
There was all of the criticism.
There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob Iger today.
I hope they stop.
You hope?
Don't advertise.
You don't want them to advertise?
No.
What do you mean?
If somebody's gonna try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself.
But go fuck yourself.
Is that clear?
I hope it is.
Hey, Bob, if you're in the audience.
Well, let me ask you then...
That's how I feel.
Don't advertise.
Yeah, and he doesn't care about the, you know, advertising boycotts and all that.
So why not take it even further and bring back, you know, Lord Voldemort himself, the name that you cannot name, given his Twitter profile.
So I think that that maybe had some of the motivation behind it.
Yeah.
Do you think that it was triggered also by the Tucker Carlson interview that was just released on Friday, too?
Do you think it was a combination of the two, which is kind of the timing worked out?
We're here with the world's most dangerous man, the most censored man in the English language.
But honestly, when you get him in front of an outhouse in the woods, he doesn't seem so dangerous.
It's a fancy outhouse.
Yeah, and it worked out great for me.
I mean, I got like 1,300 followers out of all that because now I feel like I'm freed up to post all the fourth hour Alex Joneses that I've been waiting to post for so long.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
But now I can just throw that all up on Twitter, right?
Yeah, that's so great.
It's so funny.
I mean, it's just...
No, go ahead.
It's crazy because after a while people start forgetting about people that have been banned from the public square and it's been so long that I forgot that there was even a chance Alex Jones could be back on Twitter.
But now that he's back and he's been trending and everything, it's kind of cool to finally have that voice back engaged in the public square again.
Yeah, I think that, like you said, the only concern I have here is that there might be these backdoor people that can still, you know, engineer shadow banning and, you know, Elon doesn't know everything that's going on at Twitter.
I know that when he first bought it, you know, my Twitter really exploded.
I got a lot of followers.
I got a lot of A new attraction.
I signed up for the monetization pretty quickly.
I think the first month I had, I mean, it wasn't big.
It was a few hundred dollars.
But I noticed after the first month of monetization, there was a steady decline in interactions, engagements, so forth.
I didn't do anything out of the norm.
And a lot of other people stated the same thing.
I majorly shadow banned.
Yeah, I was concerned that there's a lot.
And he brought that Yakarino woman on who said, oh, well, you know, I'm going to work in the background to make sure that we, you know, still keep the censoring going.
So I don't know what's up with all that.
I mean, he says a lot of the good, a lot of good things.
And so I'm happy for that.
And I certainly hope that things continue with this trend.
But it's sort of like, yeah, it's great to let people back on.
But if they're in the background going to still be kind of, you know, throttled.
I know.
That's what makes me upset, too.
It just seems like sometimes Elon doles this out, you know, oh, let's wheel out someone new so I can get the credit and the glory of being known as the free speech absolutionist hero again.
Let's bring out Alex Jones and get all the PR and credit.
But if he's still going to be invisible because of all the backdoor shadow banning, It pisses me off because I'm very shadowbanned too.
I know so many other people that are and it's basically like they're invisible all over again.
But he gets the glory for it.
Yeah, that's a fair criticism.
And also, you know, I listened to that whole interview.
It was weird.
It started with Alex being interviewed.
Yeah, let's talk about it.
Sorry, let me pivot to that.
Then it turned into an Elon interview, right?
Yes, yes.
What was that?
So there was about a two-hour ex-space yesterday.
It was Alex Jones.
A lot of great characters.
I mean, there was Alex Jones.
There was Elon Musk.
There was Vivek Ramaswamy.
Andrew Tate.
I mean, a lot of big players were in this Twitter space and raising their voices and all having a great conversation.
Well, it's just down to what we will accept and what will allow them to do to us.
And that's why bravery is so essential and so important.
And I know I can come across as brash with my message.
No, no, you're not.
Stop giving up our power.
I'm telling 16-year-olds to go and get rich and buy a fast car and train hard and go to the gym, etc., because these young men are far less likely to blindly comply, and it's extremely important that they don't sigh off the next generation of young masculine youth.
And that's why the system would scare you, Andrew, because you're doing an extreme version of it to shock them out of it, to show them how to have a destiny, how to have desire, how to want to be into the future.
You're right.
We still control the world and it's down to what we will accept and it's going to take bravery and love.
You need to love the people around you and love the human race and love the place you're from.
And I just want to wrap up by saying that I would never kill myself.
So let's talk about some of the key takeaways for some people that didn't listen to the whole thing or couldn't have watched any of it or listened to any of it.
Tell us about some of those key takeaways.
My key takeaway was the intimacy that I shared with Vivek and the potty together where we got to hear him.
And I remember as that was happening, I was like...
Yeah, I was like, is he peeing?
What's going on?
And then everybody was trying to figure out who was peeing.
And it was him?
He forgot to mute himself?
Oh my god, that's great.
Alright, we're seeing that Vivek has a pee tape.
Let's first listen.
You know, humans in America, humans...
And everywhere else.
His phone opened in the bathroom.
That's your phone, Vivek.
I'm not able to mute you.
Alright, so you were talking to Musk and a bunch of other characters, and...
Do you go to the bathroom?
Well, they did say it was a live stream, Jesse, I guess.
But I'll say that we're all human.
We're all human is what I'll say.
Elon and I have had some good conversations, and he and I had, I think, a laugh out of that one coming out of it.
So he wished me for feeling better.
I told him that I was.
We're all human beings.
And it was a good two-hour discussion on X, which is officially, I can say, that apparently is now very much censorship-free.
All right, so this pee tape, not funded by Hillary Clinton.
That was a good takeaway.
Did he laugh about it?
I didn't catch that part.
Yeah, they were trying to make it a pee gate now.
They're trying to make a gate, because everything's a gate now.
It wasn't a big deal.
I've been on Discord talks and peeing, and everybody heard it.
Pretty funny, though, if it's Vivek.
Right.
Key takeaways.
Key takeaways.
It started with Alex, you know, kind of giving a defense.
And we knew the Sandy Hook stuff was going to come up.
They brought that up right away.
And then, of course, immediately after all that was discussed, you get this normie journalist coming in, NPC kind of dude, bringing all the same Sandy Hook stuff up, trying to humiliate Alex.
Mm-hmm.
Basically arguing that if you sinned against, you know, public perception in any way, then you shouldn't be allowed to talk.
You should basically go away.
And that's really this weird leftist idea.
It's very much a communist idea.
Be unpersoned.
Yeah, being you're not a person, struggle sessions, all that stuff.
So that happened.
I didn't expect that.
And, you know, as I said, the interview turned from Alex really getting deep into the globalists, their overall plan for depopulation.
All that was wild.
The big thing that was missed was there was a key point, I think, where it was really getting to the point where they were going to talk about spirituality and that ultimately there's something kind of dark and demonic about this plan.
And then it kind of shifted away from that.
So I think it was a great interview for the first couple hours.
It really could have gotten deep into what I think is a key element to understanding all of this, which is the spiritual side of it.
And then it shifted away from that, but it was still positive.
It was still Elon saying at least that he's pro-population, pro-natalist, he's not anti-natalist, pro-civilization, all of that.
So overall, pretty good.
I'll go one step further.
I think we should see a 2v2 MMA duel between Elon and Alex versus Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates.
I think that'd be the real thing.
I think Elon should call them out.
It'll be bigger than the top UFC fight.
If those cowards will show up, my God, it'll be their waterloo.
Elon, you know how the media works.
Do you want to call them out and then you'll get that snippet all over the media?
Well, I'm certainly happy to have a debate with Karl Schwab or others.
You know, I think you guys may have been following what's going on in Davos more than I have, and certainly more than the vast majority of people have.
I think most people don't even know that there is a conference in Davos or the World Economic Forum.
And I've only seen snippets, but some of the snippets are concerning and I don't think we should have an unelected quasi-governmental organization.
But there were some key points that were missed that could have really gotten into it.
Because I don't think we're going to really save civilization or do a whole lot if we ignore the spiritual side of all this.
That's just my view.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And obviously Alex talks a lot about that on his shows and his network.
And Elon is sort of a question mark still.
I mean, he's got these like really strange, like his children have these very strange sci-fi demonic type names.
I mean, his lovers have been very much seemingly on that end, very kind of transhumanistic.
Right.
And he obviously is promoting, you know, Neuralink, which is his product, and so much interstellar satellite type things that feel very global control dictatorship-ish.
So it's really weird.
For people to sort of worship him as the free speech conservative idol when he's got this stuff going on in the background, too.
And we can't just ignore all that, that he's got all this stuff going on, too.
I mean, I want to know where he stands on this stuff.
Or maybe he hasn't been red-pilled yet on the religious stuff.
There was a weird part in the conversation where it was almost getting into that.
And I think it was, ironically, it was one of the Tates.
I don't remember which.
I think it was Andrew Tate.
Yeah, they both sounded like...
Andrew Tate brought up something about drones and AI taking over and it being anti-human.
And then I think Elon stepped in at that point.
Not exactly.
Not exactly.
That's not exactly what we're going to do.
And then he had to sort of give this explanation of, well, Neuralink will be for people that want it.
It'll be remedial.
It'll help people with Alzheimer's and all that, which there's some truth to that because I have a relative with Alzheimer's and he did get one of the These sort of experimental implants that helps the tremors stop and all that.
Parkinson's, not Alzheimer's.
So it helps the tremors stop and all that.
It does work.
But I think the concern is that, well, we all know that there are positive applications of this, but we also know that that's usually used as a selling point.
And there's also nefarious applications of this, right?
So that's the thing that's usually glossed over.
It was a wild interview, because it was like, you know, Matt Gaetz pops in, Tristan Tate, Andrew Tate, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Elon, Alex.
So...
It would have been better, I think, if it was maybe just Elon and Alex or, you know, a couple people and Alex.
It would have allowed it to be kind of focused, but then it kind of turned into sort of everybody chiming in, which is, I guess that's the makeup of a Twitter space, maybe more so than the interview style, but...
I guess it was, I don't know, it was definitely probably the media event of the year.
You know, we always have these big media events that, like when Alex goes on Joe Rogan and it gets, you know, 30 million views or Kanye comes on Alex.
Yeah.
So this is probably this year's, you know, Elon talking to Alex.
That'll be the big yearly event.
Yeah.
And it was interesting.
I mean, it was really interesting to hear this billionaire Elon Musk, very powerful figure, talking to this other very powerful figure in the alternative media space.
It was interesting to hear them actually talk, and they both seemed down to earth talking to each other, almost like they were buddies.
And then we hear Vivek chiming in and complimenting Alex and complimenting Elon for bringing him back on, which I liked.
And it was interesting to hear from Andrew Tate and the Tate brothers because they've had their fair share in struggles with banning and censorship as well and mob rule.
So it was a really interesting space.
Any other things that were said that you thought were interesting?
I mean, obviously Elon...
Elon admitted, he said, when I looked at the algorithm, the reason why Alex Jones was banned was because he said something wrong or incorrect to a reporter, I think a journalist.
That was the official reason why he got banned.
Right.
It wasn't necessarily due to all the Sandy Hook stuff.
No, it had nothing to do with the Sandy Hook stuff.
Yeah, they needed a reason that they cited as harassment for, I forget the guy's name, but he was the buddies with, he was one of the CNN reporters.
CNN, Brian Steltzer friends or something.
Yeah, yeah.
And so...
What counted as harassment was sort of confronting him at the Capitol and making jokes about him and stuff like that.
But if that's what counts as harassment, then basically anybody who does Man on the Street is going to be...
It's obviously a double standard of how it's applied.
I think the most interesting thing that was brought up was all of the stuff about civilization and where we're headed.
I was surprised at how much Elon knew and how far he went into depth about discussing replacement numbers, how if you just have a stable replacement, that's actually not enough to further civilization and that we're going to have a collapse of population in the West.
So I think he's...
Pretty super red pill, it sounds like.
But again, there's this weird thing going on.
He gets all that stuff.
He's very red-pilled there.
He knows statistics about population replacement.
But then when it comes to these other issues, it's sort of like he's not even aware of...
And I think it takes the next level of spiritual discernment to be able to see...
You know, beyond where he's reached.
I think you've got to go into, you know, the spiritual realm.
You've got to get into theology as the next phase to really understand what's going on.
Because it goes beyond just understanding politics and history and civilization.
All that stuff is very important.
We cover a lot on my channel.
But if you're missing that, you know, deeper level, and I thought Jack Persoviak brought up a great point today on Alex, that that was kind of the real element that Elon's still missing here.
Agree.
And we'll see whether he actually opens up and awakens to that or if he's maybe just a Trojan horse and there's a reason why he's missing it.
I also thought that the Tucker Carlson interview was really interesting.
That was pretty fiery.
And I loved how he started the interview running through a series of clips of why Alex Jones's predictions were right, why they were right.
And then, you know, you see back and forth.
I love that.
I want to play that clip real quick for people who missed it.
He joins us now in our studio.
Alex Jones, thank you.
Wow, Tucker, it's great to be here.
Amazing studios, amazing, I mean, amazing people.
And this is really gonna be, I think, a historic interview.
So thanks for having me.
Well, I'm really grateful to be able to do it.
And it's just, it's one of the great blessings of my life and of my job is that I've been able to meet people That I've had preconceptions about and sometimes find those preconceptions bolstered and in other cases demolished and you're definitely in the second category.
So I want, for people who've made it this far, you know, the people who are in the country have really succeeded in making you disreputable.
And the whole point, of course, is people won't listen to you.
So we thought it'd be interesting to start with a series of on-tape predictions that you made, some of which are so precise and so prescient that it makes the hair on my arms stand up.
And I'm being sincere and our viewers are about to see what I'm talking about.
Here is a list of things that you called ahead of time.
By the middle of September, that the new policy is being written, you all have to wear a mask again, and so will airport employees.
It's happening.
Mask mandates are officially back.
We know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted to blow up airliners, Baltimore Sun.
Or if you let some terrorist group do it, like the World Trade Center, we know who to blame.
And if there was an outside threat like a bin Laden, who was a known CIA asset in the 80s.
This group and its leader, a person named Osama bin Laden, he's the boogeyman they need.
We're looking at a giant war in February right now.
I predict the Russians are gonna roll in.
They're already there.
They're gonna roll in.
With attacks across Ukraine, which is the size of Texas.
It really was the Iraqis.
That's just because they're getting ready to invade Iraq.
What a beautiful setup.
Those 9-11 clips are crazy.
I'm actually bothered by the precision of them.
I'm not accusing you of being behind 9-11.
But how could you, in July of 2001, Call that.
You said they're going to have airliners fly into the World Trade Center and they're going to blame a guy called the son of Atlanta.
Leaving aside what actually happened, how could you have known that?
What do you think?
What did you think about the Tucker and Alex Jones interview?
Were there any key takeaways from there that you want to talk about or noteworthy moments?
Yeah, I think you're right.
I've heard relatives are asking me about it, and they're like, hey, I didn't even realize Alex made all those predictions, and he had said all this.
Well, that was actually the thing that stuck out to me when I first heard Alex in 2003 or 2004.
It was right after he had put out some of his early 9-11 documentaries.
I had watched a bunch of that material, and then I wanted to go research it for myself.
And so I remember hearing Alex talking about all these books, and I was skeptical initially, right?
Back in 2003, I thought, surely not, right?
9-11, Inside Job, I don't know about that.
But he referenced all these books, not by conspiracy theorists, I mean, sometimes he would talk about that, but by actual global elites, where they would talk about things like events for Yes.
Echoing 9-11, the PNAC documents.
I went and read the PNAC documents at the time.
And I remember Alex basically referencing all of these key texts throughout the years.
And I was skeptical initially.
He would say stuff like, if you go read the PNAC documents, and you go read the PNAC documents, and it talks about...
You know, genetically engineered viruses that attack certain racial groups or certain genetic configurations.
And that's actually in there, right?
The PNAC document talks about a new Pearl Harbor, right?
And this comes out as a policy paper prior to 9-11.
How America needs that And so I think the key to understanding Alex's predictions was that he was familiar with a lot of these white papers, a lot of these global elite texts, Zbigniew Brzezinski's Between Two Ages, which we've lectured through on my channel many times.
Those are the documents.
Brzezinski has another book, Grand Chessboard, where also he basically said that America of the West would need some kind of catalyzing event, very similar to the PNAC document.
To have, basically, the rebuilding of America's defenses.
So I think, you know, Alex was really killing it in those 2000s when he was telling everybody what books to go read.
I'm the nerd that went and read those books.
So there's just so many of these.
And even up into the 2011-12, Alex was saying, you know, you're not going to be able, when they roll this out, to go have, you know, concerts.
And you're not going to be able to go to the dance club.
You're not going to have your picnics because they're going to lock you down and force vaccines.
And so Alex, again, in the 2000s was really nailing it with all this.
Yeah, I agree.
Totally.
Okay, so what do you think the potential impact is going to be on the presidential election cycle now that Alex Jones, with all of Alex Jones' greatness and unfiltered truth bombs and everything that he brings to the table, what do you think the impact is going to be with him unbridled back on Twitter or X through this election cycle, if any?
I expect so.
I mean, I don't know for certain that Alex will 100% support Trump, but I assume that he will.
So I'm guessing that the timing is good in that regard.
It'll allow another key outlet to probably support Trump in this regard.
Wasn't Roger Stone gone from Twitter, too, for a while?
I think Owen's back, and the Infowars profile is also back.
So that's other key Infowars profile.
I think this is definitely a way to get that anti-establishment message out in the political sphere.
That's probably what Alex is really hyped for in the next year.
And I think he's also very concerned that there's going to be serious stuff coming in the next eight, nine months.
Maybe a big event.
You know what I mean?
It could be World War III. It could be Cyber Polygon finally rolled out.
Pandemic 2.
They might try to take out somebody.
So those are all real possibilities that I think the establishment has cards that they're ready to play.
I agree.
Well, we got a lot of exciting things to look forward to, I guess, in this election season.
This just got a little more interesting with Alex Jones being returned to Twitter, which is awesome.
So let's keep our eyes open and see what happens in this movie that is our world that we're living in right now.
So thanks so much, Jay Dyer, for joining Shots Fired.
We always appreciate you coming on.
You're always informative.
And of course, you host the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show on Fridays and many other days as well.
So tell everybody again where they can find you and follow you and watch you.
Thank you, Deanna.
Glad to be back with you.
Yeah, you can find me at jaysanalysis.com.
You can find me on YouTube at Jay Dyer.
You can find me every Friday on the Alex Jones, so the fourth hour.
And you go to my website, Jay's Analysis, and you can get my books in the shop, jaysanalysis.com.
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Welcome back to Shots Fired.
Well, a legend is back on X. Finally, after a long time out being banned, Alex Jones, who was banned in 2018, I believe it was, for some comments about Sandy Hook, but we all know what this really means is just he was too powerful and too influential and getting too popular.
People were listening to him too much.
He's been banned since 2018 from Twitter, now called X. And Elon Musk just reinstated his account on Monday after doing a poll, one of those great polls again, where he said, should we reinstate Alex Jones onto the X platform?
Yes or no, and I will listen to the people.
And overwhelmingly, people voted in favor of Alex Jones being reinstated.
So yay, Alex Jones, my former boss of Infowars, has just gotten back on Twitter so this is really exciting and a lot of people have so much to say about it he held a big Twitter space yesterday live with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy and so many more people joined in it was really really cool And I wonder, too, if this has a little bit to do with Tucker Carlson having an interview with Alex Jones on Friday, which was pretty epic as well.
So we're going to go into this and more and reactions from Drew Hernandez, citizen journalist and reporter.
And the host of Drew Hernandez Live is joining us right now to give his reaction.
Drew Hernandez, thanks so much for joining Shots Fired.
How are you?
Good, good.
Great time for free speech.
Thank you guys for having me.
It's a great day.
It's a great week for free speech.
I remember when I got reinstated back on Twitter, too.
It was so exciting.
I'm still very shadow banned, but it is really exciting to be back on Twitter.
I hope that Elon deals with the shadow banning issue, but we'll get to that in a little bit later.
Agreed.
So first of all, what's your reaction to AJ being back on Twitter, being let back on, let back on this public square?
Well, my initial reaction is it's long, way long overdue.
I think this should have happened immediately when Elon took over.
And a lot of people will, you know, sit there and give excuses.
It's going to take time.
But I mean, if they brought Trump back so quickly, they should have brought Alex Jones, Owen Schroer, and the InfoWars account immediately.
That's just my personal opinion.
However, I am very glad that Alex Jones has regained his identity in the digital public town square, because that's exactly what This global cabal, New World Order, and this shadow government has been totally weaponized to literally do.
It's not just about taking away your Twitter account or a social media handle.
It's about depersoning you entirely.
It's about taking your voice away because these people have such powerful machines.
They have tens of millions of dollars.
They have Soros organizations pumping all kinds of money into their NGOs and backing them up in their narratives.
They have the biggest megaphones on planet Earth.
So when they de-platform you and they take away your entire ability to stand up for yourself and they just say, well, just go build your own system.
Just go build your own infrastructure and that little plot of land over there.
It's nothing in comparison to what they have, and that's all by design.
They've centralized through app marketplaces and all these apps that are meant to be in one place to make things easier, but we'll get into that later.
I think it's all by design.
So I think it's a good thing.
Watching Alex Jones the past few years, and I'm pretty sure you have, and you've experienced everything behind the scenes.
Alex, not a perfect man, but definitely a full-scale assault on his life, his family, his children, even the Sandy Hook Lawfare.
They even attempted to go after his cat.
Remember, he sent me a text message like, Drew, they're trying to come for the cat, too.
Can you believe this?
I'm like, damn, dude.
They really are going for the kill.
The jugular.
This is an indication that they have failed and things are changing.
And I think Elon's heart is leaning in the right direction.
And I'm not like a 100% let's worship Elon Musk type of guy.
Agree.
Glad we agree with that.
Let's continue to give credit to where credit is due.
But at the same time, let's hold this multi-billionaire accountable.
That's kind of where I stand.
Continuing on.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't want to hold Elon Musk to this worshiping godlike position that so many people have.
And I do find it kind of interesting that he sort of doles out these unbanning, you know, individuals.
I mean, it did take him a little while to get Trump back on and me and sort of he does it in waves.
And he should have let Trump Alex Jones in on the beginning.
There's no reason.
If he's for free speech, which is what he apparently stands for, then why not let everybody back on?
And what I find very bizarre is that people, if you don't like Alex Jones, don't follow his account.
Don't listen to his tweets.
Don't watch his stuff.
You have every right to cover your ears.
That's our free choice in America.
But why are they so dangerous and offensive to you that you don't even want them to share the same Digital platform as you.
Not even the same oxygen, but the same digital platform.
That is so authoritarian.
And Alex Jones has every right to be in a digital platform or public square just as much as Biden does, just as much as anybody else does.
And the more that Elon lets people like Like Alex Jones back on, I'm hoping the more that we can just kill this authoritarian dictatorship mentality of, I don't like you, so you have to be unpersoned entirely.
Absolutely.
And I think X currently represents something somewhat of that right now with the return of these mega voices.
I think we're getting there.
I don't quite...
I mean, I'm just going to be honest with you.
You know, I've been saying this all on my shows, and I don't like when Elon comes out and says, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of reach.
That's not the United States Constitution.
Yes.
Exactly.
In what universe does the patriot movement accept the guy that gets to redefine the U.S. Constitution?
I find that weird.
At the same time...
Very weird.
I'm very thankful that...
Alex is back on.
I do, however, find the way it happened a little commie.
We're not a mob rule.
When Elon was getting pressed after the legendary Tucker interview, people were tweeting at him and he came out and said, I'll consider bringing him back.
It's like, what?
Yeah.
dinner.
It's like, well, let's leave it to a poll.
Let's leave it to mob rule when it comes to constitutional free speech.
Even in the space yesterday, he keeps alluding to the constitutional free speech bounds of the law on X on the platform.
That's what we want to abide by.
So it's like, then if that's true, the founding fathers didn't leave the first amendment to a mob rule selection as to who gets that.
That is your God given free right, no matter what a human being has to say.
So that kind of stuff, maybe I'm looking a little too deep into it, but I hear that and it just kind of rubs me off the wrong way.
I don't know if he's on his, his journey.
Elon might be on his red pill journey as he continues to discover who all the Luciferian and the Satanists are as he continues down this journey.
Maybe that's me giving him the benefit of the doubt, but at the same time, if you're a free speech absolutist, dude, you don't, you don't leave a man's free speech up to a mob rule poll.
I don't like that.
I totally agree with that.
But I'm thankful Alex is back on.
So if the mob rule said no, Alex doesn't get free speech in a free speech society?
That's weird.
That's not constitutional, you know?
It is.
And it's also not free speech absolutism, if that's the right word, to say freedom of speech but not freedom of reach.
So there are algorithms that are still very much in place that restricts someone's reach if Elon doesn't like what they have to say or if they say too much of one thing or the other or a view that he doesn't like so they don't get enough reach.
And he's admitting to that, basically.
I mean, I'm very shadowbanned.
So many people are.
Here's the weird thing that I find strange.
And I don't like the double speak.
I don't like the inconsistency.
And listen, when I talk like this, guys, if you don't know who I am or you've never listened to my show, I am all about accountability.
I don't care who you are.
I don't care if you're Donald Trump, Alex Jones, Elon Musk.
I don't care.
I hold you accountable, especially to what you say you believe publicly.
So what I find interesting is...
It started off with freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom of reach in the context of, well, we want to make the advertisers comfortable, so that'll fit to make them, you know, happy to come and advertise on our platform, right?
But then it went to Elon on the stage in context asking, you know, the interviewer asking him about Bob Iger, et cetera, and Disney, and he tells the advertisers to go F themselves.
So it's like, so what does that even mean anymore?
Apology tour.
Thank you.
Shouldn't you throw that away at this point?
If you obviously aren't going to be blackmailed by advertisers, get rid of all of it.
Every form of shadow banning because that is not free speech.
And I know you know what that means.
I know my account.
I have over 300k followers.
I might as well have 3,000.
Yeah, I'm so shadow banned.
Because of my reach, it's like, okay.
And then there's people out there.
You know, I call them like the Elon simps.
They'll never criticize Elon ever.
And they have like 20,000 followers and they get like million impression posts.
It's just, to me, it's like a...
I find that one could make this argument, but this is just my own personal opinion.
Anyone could have an opinion on this.
I find the shadow banning even worse than a full deplatform, because at least when you're fully deplatformed, you know like, okay, well...
I don't really have a platform to say anything, so it's not like psychologically messing with your mind every single day.
I'm just not popular anymore.
Yeah, it's almost like putting you in a glass house.
It is.
Where you can see everyone around, you can see the public, you can see all the humans around you, and you're screaming at the top of your lungs and you're trying to communicate, but it's like, yeah, you have your freedom of speech and not freedom of reach because you can't reach any of these people you see.
That's like a psychological manipulation in my opinion.
You're right.
It really is.
Yeah, you feel like you're in this glass house and you're like, I'm yelling at you guys.
I've got my free speech, but nobody can listen.
Nobody's hearing it and there's no reach.
And you know when you're being shadow banned, when you have, like, you and I both have multiple hundreds of thousands of followers and you can see when you put out a tweet, there's hardly any reach there.
There's hardly any views.
It's pretty obvious.
So yeah, it's pretty obvious he needs to fix that issue.
Elon, come on.
It really is because it's almost like he gets the credit for letting people back on, but he didn't really do it because they're invisible still.
So that is my one of several critiques of Elon at this moment.
He needs to fix.
If he's serious about free speech absolutism and this being a free speech platform, he's got to fix that shadow banning issue.
And I know that he's aware of it at this point because so many people I've seen pointed out to him.
Yeah, we shall see.
And for the viewers, I want people to understand, like, I want Elon Musk to be on the right side of this stuff.
Me too.
That's why I, you know, as a born-again Christian, ultimately I would love for him to give his life to Jesus Christ and be obedient to the Lord.
But at the same time, like, I hold these standards up to what these guys say so openly and publicly because, I don't know about you guys, but I am so sick of This is what made Trump so popular.
You know, all talk, no action.
I'm sick of that, dude.
Whether they're a politician or not, in a position of power, multi-billionaire or not.
If they are in a position of influence, I mean, this should be in your own personal life.
I am sick of people saying one thing and then not actually acting on it.
So again, where credit is due, I'm thankful that Elon brought Alex Jones back.
It is a huge win, especially for Infowars.
I'll tell you that right now.
2024 is going to be insane.
It's going to be absolutely insane with these guys back on the platform.
But like I said, I am so critical of Elon, not because I hate Elon, I hold him accountable because I want Elon on the right side of all of this so we can all win and get our country back.
Totally.
Agree.
Now let's go move forward a little bit with that Twitter space yesterday.
It was pretty epic.
A lot of important people were on it.
I mean, we had Alex Jones and Elon Musk just talking to each other, having a great conversation to each other.
And we had Vivek was on it and a number of people I'm probably forgetting.
Give us some highlights of this Twitter space.
It was a long Twitter space.
I think it was over two hours.
So for people that couldn't watch the whole thing or didn't watch the whole thing, listen to it.
Can you give us some of the initial highlights or takeaways from it?
Well, I think one of the biggest highlights to me is just the This was what was interesting to me because the PSYOP effectively became, and people still say it to this day, Alex Jones was banned off of Twitter because of his comments on Sandy Hook.
That's not even true.
Not even true at all.
Alex Jones was banned off of Twitter.
The number one reason this was revealed when Tim Pool went on with Joe Rogan a few years ago with Jack Dorsey and his little henchwoman, whatever the hell her name was.
Nobody even remembers.
Does anyone even remember what her name is?
I don't remember.
No, I forgot.
So forgettable, these people.
And they do so much damage, you know?
I know.
They just kind of slither down back into their basement where they came from.
Literally.
But what was revealed, this was like the preemptive Twitter files, like way before we knew that there was something going on, obviously.
But...
They revealed that Alex, the ultimate decision, was because when he confronted Oliver Darcy.
The video's going viral again right now.
He called him all kinds of, like a goon.
He said he looks like a demon.
He confronted him in DC. And I remember watching Joe Rogan.
I remember watching that live episode.
And they said that to Joe Rogan and Tim, and everyone started laughing.
Like, you banned them for that?
But it's interesting, even at that point, fast forward a few years later, the narrative still became, this is all about Sandy Hook.
That's not true.
I mean, they tied it all together.
They took that from Alex's past to kind of psyop the public to believe, well, see, this is how evil he is.
Why would you want him to have free speech?
When in reality, the platform itself took him down for just roasting Oliver Darcy.
Everyone loved it.
It was hilarious.
It was hilarious.
But these people are so cucked out, they can't handle anything.
So what I found interesting was how Elon Musk entered the space right away.
Just kind of shut everyone down.
Hey, let's just get this out of the way.
And just asked Alex directly, what did you really say?
And then you heard for the first time, you could tell they never really interacted.
They never really talked.
And I was asking myself, humans really are this petty.
Whether you're a multi-billionaire that's not willing to just pick up the phone, you can call Joe Rogan and say, hey, can I talk to Alex and ask him what he really said?
Yeah.
This could have been solved a long time ago.
And they both live in Austin, Texas now.
I mean, they live within a couple miles of each other.
Just, like, hash it out like bros.
It was weird to me, too.
You're like Tony Stark.
Elon Musk, you're like the real-life Tony Stark.
You could find Alex, you know, drop in through some kind of Tesla, you know, unearthed machine and have a conversation.
So I thought that was interesting that they were able to hash it out publicly in front of millions of people like that, because I felt like that was a good example of why someone deserves free speech to clarify their positions and then reconcile when you had a warped perception of who someone is.
I mean, how much of that is really going on in life?
How much of that is really going on that God has blessed us with free speech to be able to clarify and speak for ourselves what we believe, where we stand, who we are, especially when the devil is roaming around like a lion seeking whom he may devour, including their identity by slandering their entire reality and who they are.
I mean, it is so imperative that you have the ability to speak for yourself.
And that really did stick out to me right off the bat yesterday when I was listening to that from like a Just kind of like a, I guess you could say a moral perspective.
Like this is such a good thing.
It's a good thing that these two guys are talking and they're hearing, you know, themselves just interact and Elon hearing where Alex stands on the issue.
But I even found it interesting that we all know that's not why he was banned.
But still, that's the first thing Elon wanted to talk about when he came into the space.
So I thought that was interesting.
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It was interesting.
Yeah, it was just kind of cool to hear, to see this multi-billionaire, you know, talking to Alex Jones and then Vivek chiming in and all these just powerful people that were really happy that Alex Jones was back because of what it means for free speech, for the win for free speech.
Anything else that was noteworthy to you that you recall from the space?
Yes.
Well, I mean, so Andrew Tate was in there.
Yeah, Andrew Tate.
He was talking about it.
I knew I forgot him.
His brother Tristan Tate was in there.
This was a huge space.
And what I thought was interesting was you got a lot of these guys together that have really dealt with With the machine, with the matrix, with the deep state, with this new world order authoritarian technocracy.
You got all these guys in one digital room.
And they got into a conversation about free humanity and anti-globalism.
It was interesting to listen to that because...
You think about the opposite, right?
You think about the Bilderberg secret meetings that are not so secret.
You think about the Davos meetings that are not so secret.
The opposite side does the same thing.
They all get together and they war game and they talk about the future of suppressing humanity.
What I heard yesterday on the space was men who claim to love freedom that have been seriously oppressed and suppressed talking about actually freeing humanity from oppression.
And I thought that was a that's historic.
Yeah, to be honest, like if you really think about it, that was a huge historic moment with such big figures talking about anti globalism, anti one world government.
In the context of technology, it's one of the biggest, I would say, geniuses, whether you love him or hate him.
Elon Musk is a technological genius of our day.
I'll go one step further.
I think we should see a 2v2 MMA duel between Elon and Alex versus Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates.
Love it.
I think Elon should call them out.
It'll be bigger than the top UFC fight.
If those cowards will show up, my God, it'll be their Waterloo.
Elon, Elon, you know how the media works.
Do you want to call them out and then you'll get that snippet all over the media?
Well, I'm certainly happy to have a debate with Karl Schwab or others.
You know, I think you guys may have been following what's going on in Davos more than I have and certainly more than the vast majority of people have.
I think most people don't even know that there is a conference in Davos or the World Economic Forum.
I've only seen snippets, but some of the snippets are concerning.
I don't think we should have an unelected quasi-governmental organization deciding our future.
Who made them the boss?
Do people even know that they're doing this?
I'm not okay with some organization I don't vote for controlling my destiny or that of other people.
I don't know if they're necessarily fully controlling, but they certainly are influencing things.
I think an unelected world government is not a good idea.
Well, how much breaks the internet?
Elon, on that point, CJ, I'll go to you right after for a question then.
But on that point, how much control you kind of change it, whether control or influence?
Because on one side, you've got people in the context of where do we take humanity to keep us free?
Because the Luciferians on the other side, they're talking about they're talking about the same thing, but the total opposite.
It kind of gave me the chills thinking about that, like, whoa, this needs to happen more.
I felt like the only one missing yesterday on the space, I would have really loved to hear Donald Trump jump in.
I know!
He, wow, that would have sealed the deal.
And we're missing him.
I know he's sort of playing this weird game where I'm only going to post on true social instead of X. And he's being very stubborn about it.
And honestly, I think it's taking away from him and his popularity.
If he were to just...
Just, you know, just put his big boy pants on and start posting on X again and join the club again.
I really think his popularity would soar even more.
And he could actually join these great discussions.
And that's important for America to hear his voice and his conversations about these issues.
You're right.
That would have been epic.
No, I agree.
I don't know if he's got some kind of contract with True Social.
I don't know, but maybe.
Who knows?
But I agree.
I think X would be way more beneficial now that it's a little more freed up than it was in 2020 and anything before that.
So I think it would be beneficial for Trump in the campaign, to be honest.
Yeah, me too.
And it was great hearing from Andrew Tate.
Talking to Elon Musk.
Vivek, did he say anything that stood out to you, by the way?
Because he was on there quite a bit, too, at the beginning.
And again, what you said, it's these global elites, Klaus Schwab and the Bilderbergs, everyone who attends Davos and stuff, they are the brilliant minds of The Marxist satanic left who mastermind together.
And yeah, they come up with great sophisticated ideas to enslave us.
We need to have more masterminds of those on the right, the true right, not, you know, the rhinos and the deep state right.
But we need to have minds like that come together more often.
I mean, what can we create?
What can we solve together if they'd masterminded more often together?
Absolutely.
And the thing about it is, you know, a lot of those guys in that space, they've gone through the valley of the shadow of death, man.
Like, they've been deplatformed.
I mean, look at the Tate brothers.
Total weaponization of a government against those two.
Same thing with Alex Jones.
Look at Owen Schroer.
Look at Infowars.
Look at a lot of those guys in that space.
I mean, Elon is...
Getting a huge taste.
I mean, Elon reminds me a lot of Donald Trump.
He reminds me a lot in the term, in the sense of a serious, influential pop figure, multi-billionaire, really just saying F you to the deep state.
I don't know what his intentions are, but he reminds me of that a lot in that way, if that makes sense.
Yeah, definitely.
So I'm interested because they were talking about To talk about something that really stuck out to me, they were talking about the assassination of Trump, which I think everyone should take extremely serious.
Alex Jones came out and just straight up told Elon, hey brother, you need to watch your back, because these guys are for real.
And they were talking about the reality of Like a soft poisoning, maybe like poisoning them quickly and then it kills them off later.
But this has to be, this is nothing new.
I mean, the Soviets, the KGB, all of these authoritarian regimes, the commies, the socialists, even the Nazis in the past have all dealt with assassinations in order to gain more power, especially if it's a person that is unauthorized, that they do not want speaking.
I mean, come on, guys.
It's not too far out there to really be sounding the alarm that guys like Trump, guys like Elon, guys like Jones, I mean, what's the next step?
I think Tate has said this.
First, they deplatform you, then they jail you, and then they'll probably just try to kill you.
I think that's 100% the blueprint, and I think that...
It was a very eerie conversation.
If you guys missed that, I would listen to that because that is not conspiracy.
That is like our generation really...
Preemptively talking about what that looks like for us with our influential figures that are trying to fight for freedom, possibly getting taken out by this machine.
That's insane.
That's where we're at, guys, if you think about it.
Absolutely.
And Alex Jones is typically right when he makes predictions like this.
So I don't want him to be right.
But if he has a warning for people, we should probably heed that warning at this point.
Absolutely.
So what are your thoughts on Vivek Ramoswampi?
I mean, you know, a lot of people think that he might be a plant, that he's sort of just a swampy plant.
A lot of people might think that he's just sort of a Trump kiss-ass.
What do you think?
Do you think he's for real?
Do you have any initial thoughts on him?
I think Vivek definitely wants to be VP. Vivek is smart.
He's intellectually advanced.
That's clear.
And I think he fully understands that he's not going to be president in 2024.
But I think he is running...
On a platform where he is appealing to Gen Z and millennials, that's for damn sure.
And he is appealing to Gen Xers and Boomers as the young guy that's intellectually, you know, articulate, that has his head on straight.
So he's doing a good job on both of those fronts.
However, his content on his foreign policy and domestically, I think is spot on for now.
But what I've been telling people is when you get a guy like this, That just comes out of nowhere.
You don't have to automatically worship them.
This is, for me, this is my wisdom.
You shall know a tree by their fruit, and that takes time.
And for me, Vivek is kind of in this place where I appreciate him really going after the neocon warmongers on the debate stage.
I really appreciate him exposing the climate change death cult on the debate stage.
I really appreciate him.
Yeah, January 6th.
Yes, exposing January 6th as an inside job and the election was rigged.
I really appreciate all of that.
However, It's easy to say all that when you have not been taken through the damn ringer for all those things.
I would like to see Vivek in an hour of trial.
I'm not saying I would wish this on anyone, but I would like to see how that man deals with weaponized intelligence agencies, weaponized political parties from both sides.
I would like to see how Vivek deals with...
This is what I've been telling people.
Whoever Trump's VP or whoever is going to be president...
For the patriot movement, MAGA, right?
In 2028, is going to have to accept the fact that their job is going to come with everything they did to Trump, the first term and the second.
They will launch impeachment hoaxes after you.
The intelligence agencies and the DOJ will be weaponized against you.
These people will go after your family.
They will launch indictments after you.
They will launch massive lawfare against you.
Hundreds of billions of dollars to take you out and discredit your entire life.
I think whoever genuinely wants to be president is going to have to accept that reality.
Now my question is, can Vivek Ramaswamy stand against that?
That's my question.
Because I think that's the future for this country.
Yeah, sadly.
I mean, we're seeing it with Trump right now.
It is something, I mean, can he, because he is, he's a great speaker.
Obviously, he's got great zingers and buzzwords that he uses and stuff, and he appeals to a lot of people.
But yeah, can he be strong enough?
It's a genuine question.
I wish they would ask it during the debates.
We all have to ask ourselves that question.
That's all of our future.
Not just whoever is going to be the future of the patriot movement.
I ask myself this question every single day.
Yeah, I talked to my wife about it.
I talked to my family about it.
I mean, we've had experiences with my family being confronted at airports, you know, being questioned about why I traveled with them 10 years ago.
Like, well, we believe we have reason to believe that he's involved with right wing domestic terrorism.
We all know it's a bunch of garbage because the FBI is weaponized.
But so I tell people out there.
You really want to fight for the soul of this country.
I'm not calling for violence.
What I'm saying is just be prepared for persecution.
And that's where we are right now.
Where we are.
And I think we have to anticipate it.
So when it happens, we're not side-blinded by it.
And we can actually deal with it moving forward.
So, yeah.
Amen.
It's pretty gnarly.
Oh, it is.
Yes.
As Jesus said, count the cost.
Yeah, count the cost.
So true.
Well, Drew Hernandez, it's been great to have you on the show.
Thanks for being so informative and enlightening.
Tell everybody again where they can find you and watch your show, Drew Hernandez Live.
Yes, you guys can watch my show, rumble.com slash Drew Hernandez.
I go live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m.
Pacific, 11 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
And you can follow me on Twitter at DrewHLiveGetHerTruthSocial.
And I host the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show every single Thursday at 12 p.m.
Pacific.
That's 3 p.m.
Eastern, band.videoInfoWars.com.
Appreciate you guys.
Yeah, thank you so much, Drew.
We'll have to have you on again.
All right, guys, we'll be right back right after these messages.
Don't go anywhere.
There was all of the criticism.
There was advertisers leaving.
We talked to Bob Iger today.
I hope they stop.
You hope?
Don't advertise.
You don't want them to advertise?
No.
What do you mean?
Go fuck yourself.
Fuck them.
Is somebody going to try to blackmail me with advertising?
Go fuck yourself.
Go fuck yourself.
Fuck them.
Go fuck yourself.
Just like that.
Hey, Bob.
Actually, what this advertising boy fact is going to do, it's going to kill the company.
And the whole world will know that those advertisers kill the company.
And we will document it in great detail.
Let's see how both responds.
And it'll be gone because you've been advertised like that.
The judges the public.
And you think that the public is going to say that Disney is making a mistake? - Yes.
And they're gonna boycott Disney?
They already are.
Is this coming across?
Let the chips roll where they may.
Go fuck yourself.
Fuck them.
Is somebody gonna try to blackmail me with advertising?
Go fuck yourself.
Go fuck yourself.
Fuck them.
Go fuck yourself.
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