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Nov. 27, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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CrossTalk: Leaked Government Data Proves that Covid Vaccines Killed 1000s of Innocent People
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America, warm up America!
Welcome to Cross Slack News.
I'm your host, Edward Zoll.
I'm here alone this week.
I do have an awesome guest coming on, though.
Steve Kirsch, the inventor of the optical mouse, a serial entrepreneur, and also the director of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation.
He's got some very interesting news coming up.
He's actually got a big event to livestream at MIT on Thursday, where he's going to reveal data that was leaked to him from a government official.
He won't say the country.
But he says this will prove definitively that COVID-19 vaccines have caused death, excess death, lots of death in the old, the young, anybody who took it.
Seems criminal.
We're going to talk about it and there's a lot more.
But before I get into that, I want to talk about some of the many things that are going on related to this, I'd say, genocide.
It has been a terrible thing.
The fear that surrounded the pandemic led to so many being...
Just lured, tantalized into looking at the shot as an idol of safety and salvation.
For many people, they saw this shot and they thought it was going to solve all their ills.
They thought that if they just listened to the government, the government that has been looking out for our best interests for as long as we've been alive, I thought this was going to solve things.
The government was going to take care of them.
The government was going to have not only their best interests at heart, but was going to pick the most expeditious, safe, and routine solution.
Turns out this was not the case as it's been the nature of many incidents throughout history.
The government picked What was probably the least safe, most expeditious and profitable, and in a lot of ways very, very deadly, maybe even intentionally killer of options, which was this mRNA COVID-19 shot, something mandated for many industries, something forced on our soldiers and our healthcare professionals, something that has likely scarred a generation.
Statistically, we have about 5.5 billion people around the world that have taken the shots, about 72% of the population.
This is kind of wild if you think about it.
The lack of testing, the lack of oversight.
It was a grand experiment.
We don't talk about it as much anymore because they're not really mandated anymore.
They're not really pushed on us.
Well, Not fully.
There is a new version of the Moderna shot that is being advertised across the world.
In some countries, you might have seen this already.
Here is the Spikevax commercial.
It's something that's being told to people that's going to help you during the flu season, help you during the winter.
You want to see your grandkids, you want to see your babies, you might as well get the new Spikevax.
It's even really catchy.
It's got a cool song to it.
When it comes to your health, you do you.
You ping and pong that body.
You plunge that body.
You green that body.
You brain power that body.
You practice and practice that body.
You make it rain that body.
You flu shot that body.
And now, you spike vax that body.
Because even though the pandemic is over, COVID-19 isn't.
Spike vax by Moderna is a vaccine to help protect you against COVID-19.
You shouldn't get spike vax if you've had an allergic reaction to spike vax or its ingredients.
Rare cases of inflammation of the heart, muscle, and outer lining have been reported.
The most common side effects are injection site pain, redness and swelling, tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, joint pain, and fever.
Make vaccination against COVID-19 a part of your health routine.
Spikevax that body with Spikevax by Moderna.
This is so crazy to see.
There are many products the government produces that harm and are not good for our health.
You know, the government represents McDonald's and other fast food, of course.
This makes you very sick, but doesn't kill you.
Definitely none of the rate we've seen with these COVID-19 shots.
You don't have to have been a viewer of Died Suddenly, which hundreds of millions of people around the world saw, to realize this is a fact, a reality.
You might not see this on Facebook and YouTube and maybe even Twitter, but this is still the truth.
It's deadly.
It's something that you would go to jail in some countries for saying.
You certainly would be ostracized in circles among friends in the West and still to this day might be banned online for misinformation to say.
But the COVID-19 shots did indeed kill our brothers and sisters, our mothers and our fathers, our grandmas and our grandfathers.
Look, lines of generation, bloodlines, DNA. It's been corrupted.
We don't know to what extent, but we certainly know it's happened.
Something of note here, you see the spike facts being pushed on people.
According to the Epoch Times, here's an article, natural immunity better than protection from COVID-19 vaccination.
Now, what this article is highlighting is some researchers in Estonia's University of Tartu in the Department of Family Medicine and Public Health, they found that the vaccinated were nearly five times as likely as the naturally immune to test positive for COVID-19 during the Delta era.
If you remember the Delta era, this was another fear-mongering block.
We were told there was a deadly new strain making the rounds.
If you didn't go out to get tested daily, get your updated shots and social distance and lock down and stay away from life, then you were going to die and everyone around you was going to die.
It's almost as if Shepard Smith has shifted from weather coverage where he told everyone in my town they were going to die in front of a hurricane that just so happened to never hit, never transpired into mass death in Vero Beach.
Well, if he switched over to the pharmaceutical industry, he would have done a great job in telling every single one of us, trying to seed this fear amongst us that you will die if you don't get the shots.
Well, as it turns out, the naturally immune did way better than the vaccinated.
The other findings from the University of Tar 2 were that 1.1 times as likely, this is for the vaccinated, they were more likely to test positive for COVID-19 during the Omicron era.
There were seven times as likely to be admitted to the hospital for COVID-19 amid the spread of the Delta variant.
And there were two times as likely to be admitted to the hospital during the Omicron period.
Now, this drew from about 329,000 adults, a little over this, a pool of data in Estonia.
And those who were vaccinated were defined as those that received a full primary series of the COVID-19 vaccine.
And they had documentation, did not have documentation of infection, documentation of the shot.
So these are people that had the shot, did not have prior infections, they didn't have natural immunity, didn't have antibodies, and they fared way worse.
As it looks, many countries you can't see this data, it's still very secret.
That's why what Steve Kirsch has found, what you're going to hear about, a little preview, is so very important.
Many countries don't have this data available.
The ones that do, it's shocking.
And what we have to rely on are some weird stories.
We see them every day.
We see TV stars.
We see athletes.
We see all kinds of people that are dying or getting sick early.
In Hollywood Reporter today, I saw this.
There was a man who became very famous during the lockdown fear-mongering era, Stephen Colbert.
Well, it turns out that he will be going off-air.
He's not so funny now.
He has a ruptured appendix.
This is the second time he's actually had to go off air.
He had a separate medical issue.
It was in addition to the ruptured appendix.
He had a bout with COVID-19.
Now, this man was vaccinated to the brim.
But nonetheless, he's having to give up his career.
There are so many like him.
This man doubled down.
He told so many to take the shot.
He danced with a bunch of needles.
You might have seen the scene and died suddenly.
It's drilled into my head.
I do think back to the era and I wonder, what was wrong with society?
Well, it's still wrong.
So much of society is still propagandized and so brainwashed.
They might still do what we did two years ago.
We have to be better than this.
We have to remember this evidence and what evidence we can gather.
Solid evidence.
We have to review and we have to take to heart and we have to share with our family because it's not a conspiracy theory.
It's well documented.
It's the fact.
It's the truth.
In addition to this, we have a new wave of fearmongering en route.
Of course, Spikevax comes out, Moderna's new solution to maybe raise the stock price that has plummeted pretty dramatically.
They've done this new round, Spikevax, renamed it as such, because they hope to drive up sales during the fearmongering.
One of the things being floated out there, this is by Politico, is that China's hospitals are filling again.
But don't worry, we've got a solution.
There has been reports of clusters of pneumonia in children in northern China.
This is according to the World Health Organization, the same organization that told you that wearing a mask was going to protect you and your family from the transmission of microparticles.
Remember this silliness?
Well, I'll tell you this.
The Chinese health industry, they have admitted there's a flu or some other viruses going around.
Not a surge.
It's not the novel virus, according to them.
Of course, there are doctors in the United States, without examining any patients in China or knowing anything past this, they've been quick to say that we are at risk right now at home because our children's wards have closed up the emergency units.
We don't have the women and the men, doctors and nurses, ready to dance on TikTok while they wait for a deluge of poor victims to come into the wards.
Dr.
Michael Osterholm, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota said, it's influenza, it's microplasma, it's adenovirus and some COVID. This is what we've got to be worried about.
What's funny about this man, and many of the experts who are quoted in this political article, is they're admitting that exposure to viruses is good.
We actually have something called an immunity debt.
By not being exposed to viruses, we haven't built up a natural immunity.
Yet they still default back to the need for emergency wards, vaccination, and of course the same protocols, which failed.
You just read this in the Hepic Times.
They did not work.
If you were vaccinated, you did it far better.
You're not fair better than those that had natural immunity, those that let themselves live, be exposed to what was going around, develop antibodies according to the immune system that God has given us.
Now, this is not crazy.
It's just life.
And that's what I did.
I'm alive here to speak to you today by the grace of God.
But this is what I did, what so many did.
But we're not going to fall into this fear-mongering.
The fear-mongering, however, was very effective.
It was very effective.
There's so many people that they just couldn't resist this.
They listened to the authority figures in the world and in their lives, whether it be their parents, whether it be their grandparents, whether it be doctors, teachers, and they succumbed to it.
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You got to be strong.
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And I really hope this is not the case.
Many grandchildren, many kids.
They ostracized their parents.
They ostracized the older generation because they were hesitant to give in and submit to this tyranny when it comes to your body, your autonomy, and your health choices.
Some of them did it out of politics.
Some of them obviously did it out of fear.
Many of them did it out of a lack of love and common sense.
If you're among those that were ostracized by a family, you always have a family here.
And I'm sorry to hear about the extension.
Of that distance.
But I'll tell you this.
You did a good job taking a stand.
I guarantee you they made note of that.
I guarantee you every Thanksgiving, every Christmas since, they've paid attention to the decisions that mom and dad made.
The ones that kept them alive and also have protected their inheritance even, you know.
A lot of them will, they're little brats, some of them.
They're going to be waiting by, waiting for you to die.
But I'll tell you this, you live quite a legacy and you survived for people like me.
You survived for me.
You taking a stand inspired me to take a stand.
I took a stand alongside you.
Pure blood, alliance, you know, of course.
But we don't mean to ostracize those that made a mistake.
What I would consider a mistake at this point.
And we're about to hear the extent of this mistake and, of course, maybe a route to recovery.
First, we've got to lay out the data.
And the man with the data is none other than Steve Kirsch.
He's the inventor of the optical mouse.
You know that mouse you use to browse the internet every single day?
He invented this.
He's also the founder and executive director of the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation.
And he's here with me now.
Steve, I've been watching some of your tweets on X now, and I'm seeing something that many people predicted or alluding to last year.
Actual proof from government data of excess deaths caused by the vaccine.
Can you expand on this a little bit?
Yeah, I'm giving a talk Thursday, November 30th at 6 p.m.
Eastern Time in the MIT Auditorium.
It'll be live streamed on X and also on Rumble.
And in that talk, I will reveal data that has been given to me by a whistleblower Inside of a major country where this whistleblower had access to the database.
And so I've gotten millions of records and I will talk about the analysis of that and there is no way That you can look at that data and say this vaccine is safe.
No one has been able to do that.
And I've dropped it on a few people who are supporting the narrative, and they say, well, the burden's on you to prove that it's unsafe.
And I say, yeah, but everything about this vaccine is unsafe, and nothing is consistent with the safe hypothesis.
And so I think it'll be a red pill moment for America, and I'll be talking about other vaccines as well.
Some statistics that, in fact, I didn't even know until I wrote my talk.
So they'll be revealed as well.
And I think by the end of the talk, people will not want to get any more COVID shots, and they probably aren't going to want to get any vaccine shots ever again.
Now, would you say this would impact all vaccines or just vaccines with adjuvants, for example?
So the answer to that is that it will impact all vaccines.
And the only way that it should not impact all vaccines is when the health authorities start being honest with the American people and we have data transparency on every vaccine.
Because the vaccines I've seen so far The data on where I've seen the data that you're not supposed to see show they're all unsafe.
And so we're talking about like the flu vaccine.
And the flu vaccine is clearly does not meet the standard of safety that is set by the FDA advisors.
And so even for something like the flu vaccine that everybody gets and everybody assumes is safe, it's not.
And the reason they don't know that is because the The CDC is not disclosing the data.
They're keeping the data hidden.
They're selectively disclosing it.
They should be disclosing record-level data.
They don't have the record-level data.
And the reason they don't have the record-level data is because if they did have the record-level data, we could request it under Freedom of Information Act request.
And so the CDC never sees the data.
They say it's safe.
And therefore, All of the United States and every part of the United States, all the health authorities basically say, well, it's safe, so we don't even have to look at the data.
We're just collecting the data just so we can mandate people get vaccinated and enforce that and so forth.
And they're not collecting the data to analyze.
And if you ask them to analyze the data, they won't do it because they say, well, the CDC says it's safe.
You know, this is like a catch-22.
The CDC says it's safe, but they don't have the data because they don't have the record-level data from the states.
The states don't analyze their data because they're told that it's safe by the CDC. So you can see, Edward, the whole thing is circular.
It's basically, it's set up so that nobody questions what's going on.
So nobody looks at the data.
And when you call, you know, I have contacted my state epidemiologist.
I've contacted people, the chief officers of the California Department of Public Health, the sort of the Health and Human Services person for California State.
And I say, look, I've got this record-level data.
It shows that vaccines aren't safe.
You should look at your data.
And they ignore me because the law allows them.
It's discretionary.
Under the law, it's discretionary for them to look at the health data.
And so they don't look at the health data.
Because why look when it could be embarrassing?
So they just never look at the data, and they will not make the data public.
And you cannot find a lawmaker that will carry a bill to make the data public.
So the whole thing is about data transparency.
Once you have data transparency, the whole ballgame is over.
And I'm going to show that at MIT on November 30th, where we have data transparency for the very first time in history.
This has never, ever happened before.
This is going to be like the fall of the Roman Empire here when this data comes out.
There's a lot to say to this.
I would say, first of all, you have it from a country that would be comparable to the United States, I'm guessing.
Because that's one thing people are going to say.
It's not from the United States, this whistleblower and this data set.
Correct.
It's not from the United States, but you know what's funny is that I have a slide showing a tweet from one of these people who are always going after the anti-vaxxers saying, hey, you're wrong.
So this is an extremely pro-vaxx person, and they're basically saying the data from this country is extremely credible.
It's like, this is the best data ever.
So they can't say it's the best data ever, and then when the data turns around and bites them in the, you know, where, they can't then say, well, we were just kidding about the data.
We didn't really mean it.
You know, it's like the story changes whenever they need to change the story to fit the narrative.
I'm not going to press you to guess I'm going to look forward to Thursday.
It's going to be an amazing live stream.
I think that what you're doing is a very righteous crusade here because this has been a battle that's been fought by many people for decades.
What you're about to present is going to be incredibly hard to refute.
But I do ponder, I wonder if you got data from Israel.
That would be one country that would be incredibly credible in respect to this.
But I know when I look at this, Steve, you mentioned the flu shot.
The flu shot, when I was in the military, was mandated every year.
And all it would do is just make the entire unit sick.
They'd give us the strain they knew probably wasn't going to be the major strain.
It would be a check the box.
And there were examples, not many, but some, people developing side effects.
You know, there's actually a very interesting thing.
Many people in the military will be able to recount this to you, Steve, and it's that when you're in basic training, you get eight or nine shots in a row in a bay.
And some people, they fall out and collapse in the bay, maybe 10 out of 100 people.
And what we were told at the time is those people are just weak.
What I've come to understand is that they've had a very serious reaction to some of the things that are in these shots.
What you're presenting will shock many Americans.
And it's because many Americans have, is unfortunately a naive, but it's a charitable assumption that these things are tested.
That these things, it's not just everyone relying on each other's data that's non-existent, but it's actually been tested on people.
You're going to be able to show that the COVID-19 shots were tested inadequately and potentially on no one?
Well, they were tested for sure.
But, you know, the death peak for this vaccine is at six months.
They looked at two months.
They basically says, okay, hey, two months.
Everything's good.
We're good to go, right?
When the death peak is at six months.
So, And then when there were deaths, in the Pfizer group, for example, there were more deaths in the people who got the vaccine than who didn't get the vaccine.
And they threw up their hands and they said, well, it's small, it's a difference of a few deaths, and that's statistically not significant.
But you see, there were actually more.
There were four times as many people who died from heart disease in the group that got vaccinated and they never ever did an autopsy on any of the people who died in the vaccine group to show that it wasn't the vaccine.
How could they not do an autopsy and test for whether it was the vaccine that killed these people?
There is nothing in the literature, zero, zip, nada, nothing in the peer-reviewed literature that talks about the autopsies that were done on people in the trial and that how they showed it could not have been caused by the vaccine.
Nothing.
Okay?
And that's a problem.
Well, it's certainly a problem.
Because what the data shows is that these vaccines are massive killers, that you don't even return to baseline even after, you know, close to two years after the shot.
We're not seeing people return to baseline mortality rates.
You know, it goes up, it goes down, and it doesn't return to baseline, and It's really, and it's repeatable.
Every single time, it doesn't matter what month you're in, it's the same pattern.
So I'm gonna show all of these charts in my MIT talk, and there's no way to explain this.
If the vaccines are safe, there's no way to explain this.
This is why I offered $100,000 to anybody Any qualified scientist in the world to come and debate me on this, you'd win $100,000 if you could convince the audience that you got it right and I got it wrong.
It's no risk deal.
If you lose, you just walk away and you have to pay your own expenses.
But if you win, you get $100,000.
I got nobody credible to apply for this.
So then I opened it up to the anti-anti-vaxxers.
So these are the people who say that I'm a nutcase, that I got it wrong, I'm not a scientist.
I opened up the $100,000 offer to them.
And I reached out to them and I said, hey, here's this $100,000 offer for you.
And not a single one of them wants to show up and talk to me about the data.
Not one.
Data would convict them.
Data.
I mean, what you're alluding to here, because I don't doubt for a second that what you're going to present is going to be both credible and it's going to be exactly what you've said.
It is going to start a societal debate.
I think this will be nationwide, maybe global, about the intent and motivations behind delivering an experimental And very deadly vaccine to people they knew, they must have known.
If you look at this, either they just were completely woefully ignorant and negligent, or they knew it was going to kill people.
But they delivered it nonetheless.
And then there's going to be a question about that.
When it comes to mortality, was it the young or the old, the majority of the excess death?
The data that we have...
And we have tens of thousands of deaths in this data set.
It's not hundreds of thousands, it's tens of thousands.
And so we have limited data on those under 40 years old, just because they die at a much, much lower rate and fewer of young people got these shots.
But the data that we have shows very clearly that this thing was a kill shot.
For the elderly.
This thing was not, hey, take these shots and it will reduce your mortality, is take these shots and die faster.
That is what these shots unambiguously did.
And not only will I reveal the data and what it shows, but I will be publishing the record-level data for the first time in history where the record-level data is publicly available.
This has never happened in the, as far as I know, in the history of the world, we have never had record-level data made public.
Huh.
And it shows the truth.
And of course, the reason it's never made public is because these vaccines have killed people, and so they never want to make it public so that they can keep on fooling people.
But it's so, so tragic.
And I'll be talking about other vaccines as well.
I'll be talking about SIDS. I'll be talking about autism.
It'll be an interesting red pill moment for the world.
Steve, would you say that your position on vaccines has changed pretty radically from going down this?
I want to discredit this by calling it a rabbit hole, but you know how it's considered.
I mean, you probably have friends who'd be like, Steve, you really shouldn't be looking into this, or Steve, you sound crazy.
What has this looked like for you?
Because you started out willing to vaccinate your children.
You were as supportive of vaccines as they would come.
I vaccinated myself?
I believe the narrative.
I got two Moderna shots.
And then I started hearing these horror stories from my friends.
One friend had three relatives who died within a week after they got the shot, and all three were perfectly healthy beforehand.
I had another friend who got one shot, had a heart attack within two minutes after the shot, has never recovered from that.
And he got shot very early on with a single shot.
One shot of Pfizer.
And he has never recovered.
And I have, I got another friend.
He never had anyone die on him unexpectedly.
He's a sales executive.
He never had anyone die on him.
And none of his friends died on him unexpectedly.
Since the vaccine's rolled out, he's had 15 people die on him unexpectedly.
The chance of that happening if the vaccine is safe is virtually zero.
Zero, yeah.
Wow.
So I didn't need this data set to tell me that the vaccines are not safe.
The statistics prove that they're not safe because you can't find any counter anecdotes.
That worked the other way.
Oh, by the way, my friend, whose 15 friends died, all of the 15 friends were vaccinated, and some of them died within hours of the shot.
Four of them died within, I think, 24 hours of the shot.
And they were all young.
Three out of the four of them were in their 30s.
And they died like within 24 hours of the shot.
You can't explain this if the vaccine is safe.
Those anecdotes are impossible.
And by impossible, I mean statistically will never happen to anyone in the history of the world, ever.
So it's pretty clear that they're lying to us because you can see these anecdotes that you can verify.
And I verified all 15 of this guy's reported deaths.
So even from this one anecdote, you know that they're lying.
We didn't need this data set, but it's nice to have the data set because the data set shows very clearly that the vaccines are causing these deaths.
This is very intriguing.
What you're describing is something that sounds very criminal, something that has been done to hurt people, and at the minimum, negligence.
There's going to be negligence here.
In respect to that, are you inviting some attorney generals from the state level or any surgeon generals from any states in the United States to come to your speech?
I haven't gotten anyone that's interested in hearing the story.
Now, there is a governor-elect.
I won't say who he is, but he has the power to essentially order his health agency to release these records.
I hope he will.
There's no reason, Edward.
There's no reason for keeping these records confidential.
These are public health records.
The public has a right to the public health records, and you can obfuscate them so that you shift all the dates randomly for a given person so nobody will find their record, and nobody can say my privacy was violated.
And And yet it can be statistically analyzed correctly with the correct result and find the correct results without violating anyone's privacy.
And they don't do it because they don't want to let people know.
Now, I think most people are doing this just out of belief in the CDC. They believe the CDC and the FDA and they're doing it and they're pushing it, not because they're trying to kill people, but because they believe it's safe and effective and they believe the narrative.
And so people don't even look because they say, why would I look?
It's clearly safe.
Why would I waste my time and look?
So I think most of it is just negligence.
And you can't put them on legal notice that you have to do this because the law doesn't require them to go and analyze the data.
So they have plausible deniability.
Hey, the CDC said it was safe.
I'm not required to do it on my job.
So you can't really put me in jail for criminal negligence because I didn't know.
When we're looking at this, you're correct that there's a fallacy of trust.
And part of this is why we have a society like we have, good and bad.
Most people, the average moms and dads, people bringing their kids to soccer practice, they want to believe that they can trust the institutions of government, institutions that survived World War II, and the institutions that have brought us into this modern era, this modern society.
What you're showing in this angle of it is that we can't.
There's been gross negligence.
There's potentially been very criminal activity.
I do have to ask about this because when it comes to the motives, can people really be this stupid?
Or is money a motivator?
Were people making a ton of money out of this?
Or was it something worse that they wanted to get rid of the old people because of what they would cost in society?
Yeah.
I don't think there's any conspiracy to get rid of old people.
I don't think there is any health authority in America that sees this, oh, you know, I'm going to get rid of old people.
These people are clueless.
They're completely clueless.
In fact, if I drop these records on a health authority, they would be incapable of analyzing the data correctly.
This is a case of them being clueless and then simply trusting the CDC who doesn't even have access to this data and the CDC says it's safe so you don't have to look.
It's all about this, you know, willful blindness and, hey, you know, why rock the boat?
It's not required.
No reason for me to look into this.
It's complicated.
I don't even know how to analyze the data that I have.
And so, not only am I providing the data, but I'm also providing the analysis tools so that nobody can say, I didn't have the tools or I didn't know how.
So I'm dropping the data and the analysis tools that were used and the analysis techniques that were used so that anyone can do it.
And you don't have to be particularly skilled at epidemiology to do this.
You simply run a little Python program which processes the CSV data and it outputs a file which you then import into Excel and then in Excel you can see the visualizations.
It is very simple and it could be done in minutes of someone's time.
So I'm making it now so that people have no excuse for not looking at their data.
Well, certainly it sounds like they'll have no excuse to not make a credible decision here in a deliberation of whether to receive any more vaccines until there's action taken on this.
I think that there is definitely inquiry for a criminal organization, for someone with criminal prosecution authority in some form.
I think back to the Qatar incident, for example.
I know when I looked into the polio shot, I don't know if you've looked into this or not, but it turned out that it's official.
The Qatar incident was an incident where a good portion of our youth were given polio.
They say accidentally.
They say it was due to negligence.
And it turns out that one of the distributing authorities had an investment in the Cutter Laboratories in Berkeley, California.
There was a monetary incentive in that case to both cover up and to drive ahead even when there were questions about it.
In respect to what you're talking about, there was certainly aspects of fear, media, government manipulation.
I know you're not a conspiracy theorist.
But I do have to wonder if there might be a criminal conspiracy to investigate here.
Have you at least moved on that?
Do you think there should be a criminal investigation of this?
Well, you know, I think that if people ignore what I say at MIT on Thursday, I think if they look the other way, that has to be seen as criminally negligent.
That's what I think.
So, I think the world will be the judge, but it's kind of like, you know, did you know or should have known?
And there will be a lot of people who will be very surprised at what this data shows, and it'll all be in front of epidemiologists.
Who can analyze it using my tool or you can use your own tool.
And you will find that this profile is not consistent with a safe vaccine.
There is no way that you can argue that this is consistent with a safe vaccine.
And so epidemiologists will have a choice.
Most of them will choose not to look at the data.
And in fact, that's what's happened.
I've offered this data to epidemiologists and no one is interested in seeing the data except for people like Harvey Risch.
Well, I'm looking forward to doing whatever we can to get this data out and help promote it, promote your conclusions.
I think the toughest thing with data, Mr.
Kirsch, is that it sometimes makes people glaze over.
So I'm really looking forward to your backed-up conclusions, and I think that will be something that's convincing.
It should.
Again, we're going to do what we can to promote the Thursday event, and I appreciate you joining us today on CostDoc.
Yeah, thanks, Edward.
It's great to be here.
Thank you, Steve.
Pretty incredible stuff.
I'm going to be tuning in to Steve's live stream at MIT. They don't let anybody speak there, okay?
They don't just let someone off the street come give a presentation there.
They're letting him speak there because he had some credible data.
He has some credible data given to him by a country.
He didn't say who.
But I do think that he has gotten credible data from a government official.
I think this is going to shock the world.
I know it's already kind of fueled and supercharged some of the attempts to get back pay.
This is for the military, of course.
The military was hit very hard.
I had a lot of friends, a lot of brothers in arms who were forced out of the military early, inadvertently.
Especially at a time when one end of the country wanted to wage war against everyone and their mother, whether it be with China, whether it be with Russia, whether it be in other parts of the world.
They can't do this if you don't have soldiers, but still they pushed forward.
There were reports of maybe 100,000 soldiers removed, maybe 10% of the National Guard total removed.
The truth is there may be up to $6 billion of back wages that are owed to these soldiers, something that a broke country just can't fulfill.
There's a lawsuit going right now led by Florida lawyer Dale Saron.
He's got two other attorneys that are working with him, Brandon Johnson and J. Andrew Meyer.
They're going to want to pay attention to these lawsuits.
It's Bassin v.
the United States of America, Botello v.
the United States of America, and Harkins v.
the United States of America.
Now, there's a select route they're going at here.
The way that Congress ordered the military to rescind the mandates...
It's left it open for collections of maybe up to 8,000 soldiers for back bay.
Loss of promotion, loss of opportunity, loss of retirement.
Now this includes up to 9,000 army soldiers, about 11,000 airmen and guardians, the soldiers in the Air Force and Space Force, 4,100 sailors in the Navy, and 3,700 Marines.
This is also open to the National Guard and the Coast Guard.
It's going to be a class action lawsuit that's fought on the behalf of anybody who was forced out of the military due to the refusal to take the shot.
Here is Dale Sarin briefing his lawsuit.
Might have gotten lost in the deluge of Thanksgiving coverage.
Didn't get lost to me.
This is very important.
It's important to note that a lot of people had religious qualms about taking these, and the military, you know, had lots of injunctions against it.
It just did not handle this well at all.
And, you know, the Secretary of Defense let go of some 70 to 100,000 National Guardsmen.
And so that's, you know, that's almost 10 percent of the National Guard.
And, you know, I heard earlier a general talking about the total force and all of this.
But, you know, they sacked somewhere north of 85,000.
We don't have exact numbers.
You know, the DOD hasn't been entirely forthcoming.
But once Congress rescinded, there was this commitment to, hey, we're going to fix it and do right by these people.
But they haven't.
And so I think the recruiting woes are going to continue until someone over there realizes that we have a volunteer force.
These are not conscripts.
These are your fellow citizens.
This isn't the Roman Empire here.
And so until and unless we get the trust that's been broken fixed, no one's going to come back.
Why what Dale is pursuing is so important and what it's going to reveal.
As we spoke in the interview with Mr.
Steve Kirsch, so many industries will be impacted by proving definitively That the COVID-19 shots not only were rushed, but they killed people.
They were dangerous.
They were damaging.
If you refused to go ahead with this medical procedure, with this bioweapon injection, not only were you smart, you were justified.
It won't just be the military, but the military is so important because they were ordered to do so.
Many of them, they don't think about politics.
They don't think about medicine.
They're just trying to serve their country.
There's something very honorable about it.
I remember reading in Romans 13, this verse that's at the end of it.
It kind of stuck with me.
Is it give honor to those that should receive honor?
You know, I don't agree with everything the military gets mixed up in.
I don't agree with every war.
I agree with very few at this point.
But I certainly understand these men are trying to be honorable in their service, as I was, okay?
And many of them were forced into an unprecedented situation, an untenable one at that.
Some of them took the shot and they, you know, developed myocarditis, developed heart problems and all kinds of things, including cancer.
Some of them had no side effects, but they had shame.
They had shame that their government would force them to do something that they didn't want to do and didn't feel the need to do.
And according to the studies, didn't need to do.
Some of the strongest men and women in the world being forced to take a shot to survive something that was as bad as the flu.
Okay?
What we're learning now is that the intervention definitely had claws.
There have to have been ulterior motives.
Steve, a very political point.
He's not a conspiracy theorist.
He's just trying to present the data.
Okay, we'll pick it up from there.
I do believe there were some ulterior motives.
I think it should be investigated whether some people thought it might be cheaper to see grandma and grandpa die before they achieve their Social Security age or are able to collect in on their retirement.
There may be many young people that are looking to cash in on their parents' inheritances and bring money back into the system.
They say the baby boomer generation has generated a lot of wealth.
What's the best way to free that up?
Well, they die, and then you get to seize the money.
I know in England, this is kind of a side note, but they're not even trying to hide it.
King Charles actually passed a, he's activating an old law which allows him to claw in resources from the dead.
It's a controversy right now in England.
King Charles, very progressive.
This was very progressive, sir.
Usually a king would at least try to hide this under a war.
Well, I see the kings and queens of the pharmaceutical industry in this country.
They've done their best to try to hide their crimes, I believe.
They've not done a great job for hiding it from very smart individuals like data analyst Edward Dowd.
We've had Edward on some of our programs that we produce.
He was a former Wall Street analyst.
Very smart man.
What he's done, Steve of course is getting behind the scenes data.
It's government data that was not publicly available.
It was kept secret.
Edward Dowd has gotten publicly available data from the United Kingdom, the Office for National Statistics.
And what he's discovered is that teenagers and young people in their 20s, 30s and 40s in the United Kingdom are dying from rapidly metastasizing and terminal cancers at an unprecedented rate since the mass COVID-19 vaccination campaign began.
So in England, it was really bad.
I mean, everybody going to school, even going to the playground.
Do you remember the people getting arrested from the playground?
I hate to even remind you, but I have to remind you.
To bring significance to what Steve Kirsch's findings are, it's incredible.
Proof that they did it, knowing it was going to kill people.
Proof that the shots did not help people, did kill people, have killed people, continue to kill people.
Not up for debate.
Not up for me being mischaracterized, defamed online.
This is just the cold, hard truth.
And it's about to be revealed at MIT later this week.
Well, what Edward Dowd was able to find from this publicly available data for the United Kingdom...
Is that cancer rates have increased by two to three times.
There's 200 to 300% increase in cancer.
Specifically, among the youth that usually don't have cancer.
I brought up in the interview with Steve the Cutter incident and the polio vaccination campaign and how cancer was non-existent.
Prior to the deployment of the polio shot that just so happened to have SV40 in it, a cancer-causing agent, and one produced from a bioweapons program run by the CIA, tried to produce a weapon to kill Fidel Castro.
All right, have you heard it?
It's indeed a kill shot, okay?
The truth here is that I believe it has already been established SV40, the same element, was also in the COVID-19 shots.
What we are seeing now, according to Edward Dowd, is a 28% rise in fatal breast cancer rates in women, an 80% increase in pancreatic cancer deaths among women and a 60% increase among men, a 55% increase among men in colon cancer deaths and a 41% increase a 55% increase among men in colon cancer deaths and a 41% increase in women, a 120% increase in fatal melanomas among men and 35% increase in women, 35% increase in brain cancer deaths among men and a 12%
women, 35% increase in brain cancer deaths among men, and a 12% rise in women, and a 60% increase in cancer deaths rates among men in cancers without site specification, and the 55% increase among women in the same regard.
The cancer in that respect is very interesting because you're seeing cancer form all over You're seeing it spread unexplainably.
You don't know where it caused it.
In all these cases, why are we seeing an increase in cancer rates?
Why are we seeing an increase among a group that's supposed to be the most healthy?
The military is an interesting group, as we talked about before, because they're pre-screened.
They join the military, they're perfectly fine and fit, and they're ready to fight.
These youngsters in England should be the same thing.
Shouldn't be this far off.
I mean, obesity is bad, but my goodness, it's not that bad, okay?
What we do know is that breast cancer already dominates women.
Well, among the 15 to 44, breast cancer was representing about 25% of the total excess death rates caused by malignant tumors in women in 2022.
This is the next most dangerous cancer for women based on the excess death rates.
And excess death rates are important because the excess death rates are how we start to look at what was the extra death caused by COVID-19.
That's where Edward Dowd is going with this.
Excess death equal COVID-19 deaths.
Specifically, vaccination.
COVID-19 vaccination deaths.
Edward Dowd has referred to these as turbo cancers.
And he said that these have exploded.
In 2022 especially, among young men and women.
Skin cancer is up 118% in that year.
It just doesn't make sense.
None of this makes sense.
Even stomach cancer.
I just had a friend who had a stomach cancer scare.
I believe he took one shot.
And again, he's in his 20s.
Okay?
No explanation.
You could say die, you could say all kinds of things, but it just doesn't make sense.
The other thing that doesn't make sense is that by a long shot, most deaths among older people in 2021 and 2022 in Wales and England, this is the data analyzed by Burdown, they've been coded.
I mean, they're given a code of what caused it, how they died.
8% of deaths among 15 to 44-year-olds in that same year block, right before 2021, We're good to go.
All right, and then they get a cause of death.
I know this is how it works, okay?
In these cases, 30% of the deaths have not been coded.
How does that happen?
Unless you're trying to cover something up.
Unless you know what caused it.
Unless you know that it was the shots.
Those deadly, deadly vaccines that Steve Kirsch was speaking about.
Who has the data to reveal the dangerousness of that.
You know, Steve is going to do God's work on this.
I really do believe it.
I think Thursday is going to be huge.
The other caveat of the missing codes is the remaining 92% of the coded deaths in 2021 and 70% of the coded deaths in 2022 revealed a strong signal of cancer deaths in the young.
Now, this work that he's done is showing malignant neoplasms that started in 2021 and accelerated substantially into 2022.
This is just the data we have available.
And it's for the last two years of the major portion of the pandemic lockdowns.
So I think that Edward and his team have stumbled upon something big.
You pair this with what Steve Kirsch is about to reveal.
Maybe we can finally hold some people accountable.
Maybe we can finally hold some people accountable.
I would hope so.
I really would.
Especially after people like Kevin McKernan, who is the former Director of Research and Development at the MIT Human Genome Project.
Well, he showed conclusively that the mRNA shots were contaminated with DNA fragments.
Now, we know this isn't just hyperbole or speculation.
This is according to people like David Weissman, a pharmacist with a doctorate in experimental pathology and a pioneer, originally with Johnson & Johnson in all places, that these fragments do indeed add the potential damage to the vaccines that can cause cancer.
All right, and put that on top of SV40 that Dr.
Peter McCullough said is definitely in the shots that people have found in the shots.
You have a cancer kill shot.
This could explain the rise in deaths of your friends, your family.
It's not rocket science, folks.
We need to do better.
We need to do better.
And the CDC knows this.
They have the VAERS data.
They also have the signal analysis, which is seeing a correlation between cancer and vaccination.
They're seeing it.
And I do wonder if they've stopped taking them.
But for you and I, we've got to be smarter.
We've got to hold the people accountable using the mechanisms of government that are available to us.
Attorney generals, surgeon generals, governors, presidents even.
You've got to hold these people accountable.
They lied to you.
Even President Trump, they lied to you.
They didn't tell you that this was a possible outcome.
They did use you as a scapegoat, though.
They used you as the front man, the spokesperson for the shots.
Look, you didn't know.
I do believe that.
I think that if you'd known, you would have stopped the rollout.
You were trying to stop mass depression, both in individuals and also in the workplace.
The country was starving emotionally, physically, spiritually.
You weren't our savior.
You're not Jesus Christ, but I tell you, you were our leader.
And you were looking for any solution to a terrible, a terrible outcome you were being sold by Dr.
Fauci and others.
Just so it turned out they lied.
I know that you'll hold them accountable.
I don't blame President Trump for what we're experiencing.
I do hold our people accountable for what we must do now.
What we must do is take the data that people like Steve Kirsch and Edward Dowd present.
We must hold tribunals.
We must hold trials.
We must investigate the pharmaceutical industry.
Now, at least some of the scrutiny is leading to results.
I know that I saw today Moderna has secretly halted an mRNA vaccine trial for an Epstein-Barr vaccine.
This is after one myocarditis case.
If they were following the same rationale even two years ago, they would have just kept going and just covered it up.
But they have halted the phase one trial of an mRNA vaccine.
Look, Moderna's stock's not doing too hot, down nearly 85% from its 2021 highs.
I think they've got some money that the American people and people around the world might put to use.
I think we should put that to use to compensate the families, the communities which were ravaged by this terrible plague, a plague of fear and a plague of poison delivered through the COVID-19 shots.
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Lauren is away this week.
She'll be back next week, Lord willing.
And of course, Lauren, you know, she's on the same side.
I was looking at her telegram.
We were talking about this.
Lauren was pointing out how the government in Delaware was trying to tell people, hey, are you scared of having that extra weight you got from lockdown?
Don't worry.
She'll get a shot.
She can get back out and around.
Lauren wasn't stupid enough to do that.
I wasn't stupid enough to do it.
You weren't stupid enough either.
And for those who are tricked into it, you're not dumb.
But please, heed this warning now.
The people that are going to pressure you into taking something like this and to roll the dice with your life, they're not trustworthy.
They've got financial incentives.
And some of the morale are evil.
They want you to die so they can take your money.
Don't make it easy for them.
Don't make it easy for the King Charles's of the world or the Dr.
Fauci's or any of these other monsters.
Fight.
Fight for what's yours.
Stand up for what you deserve in this country.
And of course, take a stand in this time for Jesus Christ.
You can only do this if you're healthy.
You can only do this if you're strong.
You can only do this if you're informed.
Thank you so much for tuning in on this episode of Crosstalk News.
I'm your host, Edward Zoll.
God bless you and take care.
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