LIVE: Beat the BEAST System With Gab Pay: Christian Parallel Economy Will DEFEAT Globalism
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So, on several occasions, we've had Gab CEO Andrew Torba on the program to talk about his two great projects.
His first, of course, is running a for-profit company as an outspoken Christian.
His second is building a full parallel economy that can exist outside of the domination and control of the godless and woke maniacs who dominate our economy.
The powers that be have done everything in their power to destroy Gab.
You might know over the past few years a bunch of Twitter alternatives have come and gone.
Parler is dead.
Truth Social exists only because Donald Trump is on it.
But Gab endures a full seven years after it was created and it continues to expand all of its features to become a major viable alternative platform in the world economy.
So when most conservatives get banned or censored or deplatformed, they bitch and they whine and they moan and they complain.
But just like we built our own Stu Peters network, Gab has responded to all of the attempts to kill it by learning and building, becoming stronger and bigger.
And now they're rolling out a new upgraded version of Gab Pay, the company's own payment processor, which it created after being kicked off Other payment processors controlled by the woke regime.
It's actually no exaggeration to say, if Gab's payment platform can stick around and provide a long-term option for others, that will be the most important work the company has ever done.
Lon Passoff is the CEO of GabPay and he's with us here in studio.
Hey, it's a pleasure.
Thank you for stopping.
Nice to meet you.
How important is it, I mean, in parallel economies, when you're talking about a parallel payment processor?
I mean, we've been...
Debanked.
People have lost the ability to bank with Wells Fargo or Bank of America.
Kicked off of airlines.
Can't take an Uber, for crying out loud, or an Airbnb.
So as a payment processor, I mean, how is GAB dealing with this?
Well, I kind of have to go back to the start.
Several years ago, I was speaking to Andrew Torba.
Actually, I was speaking to my staff about Andrew Torba and reached out to him to find out why he was personally removed from Visa and MasterCard.
That's kind of where this whole thing got going.
You talk about being deplatformed.
This man was not only deplatformed and had to build his own network up, he was also debanked again and again and again.
Visa and MasterCard banned him.
Processors banned him.
Multiple processors allowed him to process for a few days and then kicked him off.
He came to me and he said, look, here's the problem that I have.
I'm having a problem collecting money.
People want to donate to me.
They want to donate to this cause.
They want to buy merchandise.
They want to do so on and so forth.
I mean, probably investors.
Exactly.
You also had investors.
But again, this is a problem that started probably about 10 to 15 years ago.
It started in the industry as a whole, choosing who can and cannot process.
And so my company, the original company that founded Green Money, we started finding ways around.
We started finding solutions for people.
One of those solutions was if you couldn't get credit card, you're being kicked off of ACH, we would do electronic check, e-check.
That was the start of it.
Then we got into why are you being kicked off a credit card?
How can we get you back on the credit card?
Is it just the bank?
Is it Visa?
Is it MasterCard?
And so having those years of experience kind of helped me and helped Andrew Torbaugh.
I'm interested, what did you find in most cases?
Was it Visa and MasterCard or was it the banks?
In most cases, it's the banks.
In most cases, it's not Visa and MasterCard.
But there are cases in which people don't do things correctly.
And so we can help them navigate back to doing things the right way.
As an example, you may say, all right, I got kicked off.
I'm going to use a friend.
You can't do stuff like that.
You know, we can teach you how to get your account back in good standing with Visa and MasterCard if that's the case.
In the case of Andrew Torba, Visa and MasterCard did not like what he was saying or what he was doing and removed them.
Him and his family.
Can't process.
So he was making like violent threats?
No, I don't think it was violent threats.
Terroristic threats?
No.
Hate speech?
No.
Well, according to them, hate speech.
So if you say anything bad about The Jewish state or the Jews or anything like that.
Oh, sure.
The Zionist lobby that controls the entire economy and the media and our entire government.
100%.
Okay, sure.
So now he's back with his own payment processing.
Now he has processing.
Does this make him unstoppable in a sense?
As to how?
Well, I mean, he doesn't rely on anybody now.
I mean, self-sufficient, launching your own payment process.
It's not 100% self-sufficient, but launching out a payment platform really helps.
It helps you find out who your friends are, what banks will work with you, what processors will work with you.
Getting to those banks and processors who will not bow down to the system.
You know, working within the network.
There are a lot of people who came to me when I started this with him and said, You know, why don't you just use a new cryptocurrency?
Why don't you just go outside of the network?
Okay, well, most people want to pay by credit card.
Yeah, who can live like that?
So I told Andrew, I said, you can't do this just with Bitcoin.
You have to use Visa, MasterCard, Amex, Discover, ACH, E-Check, everything.
And so that's basically what we're building now, is a full network.
Yeah, when I go to the Publix, I don't whip out my Bitcoin.
I mean, it's required that we have the ability to exchange money using plastic.
Try just using a gold coin.
Go to the store and pull out a gold coin and see if they'll take it.
Even that, which should be accepted, they'll just look at it and go, you know, what is this?
I can't take this.
So you have to go along, this is what we call, why people are calling it the parallel economy, we call it the parallel rails.
We have to build solutions that are within the current rails, the current system, the US dollar.
We can't go outside of that system and expect to make it.
So has this launched already and what does it look like?
Yeah, we already have Gapay Merchant Services.
That already works.
So we are issuing, we are processing for companies.
We are working on something called Parallel, which is parallel bank accounts, debit cards, long-term looking out years.
You have Visa, MasterCard AmEx, and Discover.
We hope to have a fifth network called Parallel, which is a non-woke, non-controlled network where merchants can sell, people can get credit.
Not have to worry about being shut down, not have to worry about going in and, you know, you want to buy a gun, and you can't buy a gun because your card doesn't work.
Yeah, or if I want to sell t-shirts that have a message that accurately depicts Joe Biden as a fraudulent pedophile occupying the White House, I mean, I would be able to do that.
Well, you're telling the truth, so you should be able to do that.
Seriously, honestly, if I go to any of these other platforms, they're just not even going to allow me to sell that t-shirt.
No, and that's the crazy thing.
Before, when you went to process, it was all about, is it legal or not?
Are you viable?
Yes or no.
Are you a risk?
Yes or no.
These days it's more about what you say, what you can't say, what you can and cannot do.
You're Stu Peters.
You're the enemy.
Period.
So why would they allow you to sell a t-shirt?
And that's the problem.
This is the United States of America.
We should be able to sell whatever we want within the framework of the law.
Yeah, my mind is just going in so many places right now.
It's like the precursor to the mark of the beast, actually.
If you're not going to bow down to our ideology and our agenda, you're not allowed to buy, sell, and trade.
No, and that's where it's going as well.
You're talking about the mark of the beast.
They are bringing in the CBDC. They will control your money, period.
They will outlaw cash.
Just unplug you from the matrix.
You're done.
You don't exist anymore.
Look at the Canadian truckers.
They started making a noise, shut off their bank accounts.
This is why a long time ago I said, Justin Trudeau debanking and deplatforming and seizing truckers' bank accounts matters a lot more than whatever Vladimir Putin is doing in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin didn't require you to get an injection.
He's not teaching your kids transgender propaganda and forcing them to cut off their genitals.
But our media wants to make you the bad guy, me the bad guy, Andrew Torba the bad guy.
And that really causes problems for people sitting around their dinner table.
I notice you have a cross on your wrist.
I do.
That's their problem.
Yeah, and we'll gladly wear that.
That's the start of it.
Yeah.
Because if you have God and you have money, you're the enemy.
That's pretty...
Wow.
Let that sink in.
So why should this matter for people around their dinner table?
Why is what you're doing and what Torba's doing, how does it make a difference in the lives of people who want to buy, sell, trade, small business owners?
If you can't buy a gun, even though you have the money or the credit to do so, what's next?
What's next beyond that?
What happens next?
And people don't really think about what comes next.
Oh, we're fine.
We have credit.
We have Amazon.
We can order things.
We can go shopping.
I go to the movies.
You know, life is normal.
Even though they took two years of your life away and shoved you into a closet.
Life is normal.
It went back to normal.
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So for most people, they don't think about this kind of stuff.
It's conspiracy theory.
But we're $33 trillion in debt as a nation.
We have a GDP of $23 trillion.
Do the math.
Yeah, we're on the precipice of a default.
We're at almost 150%, no matter which way they twist it and turn it.
No, we're only at 120 this or that.
No, we're at I think 147, 149%.
So what comes next?
Default, which is what they want.
After the default, Got to go to a central digital currency to save the dollar.
Well, folks, it's the same thing.
There's no difference.
What's the difference between cash in your hand or on your smartphone?
There's no difference.
The difference is now they can control it.
They can outlaw cash.
I mean, that gets really deep.
We could talk about the zero value of the dollar anyways.
I mean, we've been programmed and indoctrinated to believe that a dollar actually is worth something.
It's just not.
I mean, they just go print more of them.
It means nothing.
It's a debt.
It's a promissory note.
And China owns almost 100% of that debt.
Yeah, they own quite a bit.
And that's unfortunate.
The question is, how do we change that?
Well, change the control structure.
So this really is about, I mean, this is a vast amount of freedom that will be given to merchants.
This is a vast amount of freedom that will be given to consumers.
I can do business with the people that I want to do business with.
And as an owner of a business, I can say the things that I want to say.
Have the faith in where I want my faith, believe what I want to believe, and say it loudly and proudly, and still do business and make money.
With us, if it's legal, you can do whatever you want.
If you go out of bounds legally, we're gonna stop you.
But as long as you're doing things right, if you're selling t-shirts, I don't care if it says FJB, I don't care if it says, I don't like the Jews.
It doesn't matter.
It's legal.
Freedom of speech.
Freedom of the press.
That's what a free speech absolutist actually is.
There's a lot of people who say they are, but then believe in de-platforming others.
My wife asked me, why are you risking going on this show?
Why are you risking what you've built?
What we've built, the house that we own, the cars that we own.
I don't have a note.
She said, why are you risking all of this to go on this show?
And I said, it's important.
It's not really about the money.
It's not about the money.
When you speak to Dan, you'll hear the same thing.
It's not about the money.
At this point, it's about driving home the idea of freedom of speech and 1A, 2A, those are very important.
2A because it protects 1A, and 1A because they shouldn't be allowed to take that away from us, and they are.
In miniscule ways, little by little, they're taking that away from people.
So it's interesting that you said what you said about your wife, because in many ways she's actually speaking to the point of why you're doing what you're doing.
If I'm too nuclear for you to talk to, That's very parallel to the way that, well, the bank says you're too nuclear to do business with.
Right.
We've had that.
I mean, it's exactly why you're doing what you're doing.
Yeah, and when we started this, we went to our friends in the industry.
That's the first people you go to.
I've been in this industry for almost 20 years.
I went to my friends first.
When Dan came on board, same thing, went to his friends.
Hey, this is what we need.
This is what we want.
All of them turned their backs on us.
It was amazing.
All of them.
It was all, oh, you're dealing with Gap?
You're doing what?
Oh, that guy's an anti-Semitic.
It has nothing to do with whether or not he speaks out about the Jews.
It has to do with the fact that 1A is more important than anything that we have in this country.
That's where freedom comes from.
And if I can't sit and talk to you, I love your show.
If I can't sit and come and talk to you and talk to the good people who watch you and say, hey, be careful.
Watch out.
You need to be very careful, especially with your money.
That's what they're after.
Yeah.
This is why they're spending trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars out of control.
They know how to control it.
They don't want to.
They want to sink the currency.
They want to sink you and me.
Spending trillions, by the way, while killing millions.
I'm sure that you're aware that just recently we bombed Syria.
We're getting involved.
There's US Marines arriving in Israel right now.
A hundred billion dollar package.
A lot of it includes money to Taiwan to protect them from China's posturing.
You know, the military-industrial complex, which is controlled by the Zionist lobby, is hard at work killing millions of people and spending trillions of dollars.
They will bankrupt you and watch you die a slow death so long as it empowers them.
But it's all distractions to me.
My personal opinion is every step of the way, it's a new thing.
It's the next new thing.
If you look at it, you go back three or four years, It's one thing.
The next thing is Ukraine.
As people get sick and tired of Ukraine, what comes next?
Now all of a sudden, Hamas is able to breach the unbreachable Israel?
Oh, we've talked about it.
It is a distraction, and I agree with that, but the fact is real people are dying, and these people are murderers who deserve extreme accountability, but they don't care who they have to kill.
And the more they kill, the better for them.
The more rich and empowered they become.
Yeah, they make money.
They get kickbacks off of that.
Yeah.
Killing people.
Yeah.
Well, they did it all through COVID. In the state of Minnesota, where I live, it was $380,000 per COVID patient that the hospitals were getting paid to murder them with remdesivir and ventilators, knowing what they were doing.
Remdesivir doesn't even work for that.
Well, remdesivir works for their job.
Yeah.
It does the job they want it to do.
Absolutely.
They want to kill people.
Money helps to save people.
You have to have it to survive and to thrive.
And if you're cut off, living a life is nearly impossible.
So what you're doing is actually extremely heroic.
How do people get into contact with you if they're having problems now?
And they see this as a breath of fresh air.
Well, they can go to Gab and they can go to at GabPay.
We're there.
We're also building out a new parallel website.
So we'll have that up pretty soon right now.
We're kind of behind on that because we're running into some issues with a few of the banks we're dealing with for the exact reasons I was talking to you about.
But at this moment, we're in a building phase.
So we are offering merchant processing to merchants.
We are offering solutions to individuals.
But we're just getting started.
We need a lot of help.
We need...
More banks, more processors behind us, more people behind us, more people who are willing to sign up and join and use the services that we offer.
Like when the parallel card comes out, we're going to need people to grab a hold of that, change their direct deposit to the bank accounts that we give them, spend on that.
I don't know if people know, but debit cards actually make banks money.
So when you use your debit card, that bank gets a kickback from Visa and MasterCard.
We need to be able to take that money away from the banks that you're using now and put it to good use to fight this good fight.
These, by the way, are the banks that funded the bioweapon.
These are the banks that fund the wars that are killing millions of people.
These are the banks that are responsible for turning over information unsolicited to the feds after January 6th to have people unconstitutionally locked up and put in a gulag without due process.
These are the banks That are killing you and your children, quite literally.
And they use the banks.
They still use the banks.
Well, yeah.
They didn't have a choice until now.
And so, given that you have a choice, why would you choose to do business with heathenist murderers that are in league with Satan?
People are just lazy.
And I don't mean that in a mean way.
It's very inconvenient.
They use convenience.
So if you're with Chase, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, all the big banks.
And I'm not calling out the banks in general.
Some of them have very good employees behind them.
The investors that sit above the banks, that's the problem.
We all know who those investors are.
It's the same multiple.
There's two or three companies that own everything.
But if you're with those banks and you're using those debit cards...
You're talking about Vanguard and BlackRock.
Exactly.
The Rothschilds.
Exactly.
So that's where the money is coming from.
That's where the orders, the marching orders come down to their CEOs.
And people go to the CEOs and they say, oh, it's the CEO's fault.
No, not really.
They're not the ones.
They're just answering to their...
But to speak to your point, it's a convenience.
If I'm with Wells Fargo, I can literally walk into a branch virtually anywhere in the country.
And so, yeah, it is a convenience thing.
I don't care.
So, here's my suggestion to people, and it's a pretty simple one.
If you want your convenience, keep your convenience, but move some of your money over to our systems.
Try them out.
Watch us build.
The same with Gab.
When I was first on Gab three, four years ago, it was really not the greatest system.
I would be sitting there on it, scrolling, and it would stop working.
And I'd see people complaining about it and say, oh, this isn't working.
That's not working.
Give them time.
Now it's a great system.
Now it's great.
It's got all kinds of toys.
It has a marketplace.
Building out GabPay, there's so many things going on in there, right?
The advertising, you name it, A to Z. Andrew Torba has put so much time and effort into that company, and he's You know, he's doing it without making a lot of money.
And without selling out.
He never sells out.
Yeah, and giving opportunity to young Christians and, you know, family and friends and bringing the important people in his life into the business.
I mean, I've admired what he's been doing since the very beginning.
We want to talk more about the technical aspect of this, and so we're going to move along on that.
But I really appreciate what you're doing.
You can look forward to the Stu Peters Network joining.
I appreciate what you do.
I really appreciate your time and bringing me on the show.
Of course.
Thank you so much.
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So we were just talking with Lon Passoff, the CEO at GabPay.
We're now with Dan Eddy, who is the COO. Thanks for sitting down.
This is really big and the more that I think about this on a larger scale and the way that this can impact Americans Who are understanding, look, there's an enemy here.
Obviously, we all have a common enemy, which is Satan.
But these are his minions that are controlling the entire global economy because there are so few of them at that level.
It makes it hard to spot them.
And in my industry, I've been in finance and processing.
Do you think so?
Oh, yeah.
They're hard to spot and they're hard to get to, right?
And in addition to that, you've got a lot of people that just sit around, right?
You're a typical American out there that is a Christian.
Like when I grew up, I went to church every Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night.
We'd go out to the mission, vacation Bible school, and that's it.
What people don't understand is that you can't just clutch the pearls and you can't just wring your hands.
You've got to make moves and you have to make changes in what you do because the devil is out there.
And that's what we learned as kids, but then we tend to forget that.
We live in a world of convenience, as you were talking about earlier with Lon, and people just say, well, it'll be okay.
It's not going to be okay.
No, it's going to get a lot worse.
It will get worse.
And this is exactly why we're here.
The way that it works in the banking business before, you'd be looked at for your financial position.
Do you have good credit?
We didn't really care what you sold as long as it was legal.
And then we took a look at not only your financial position, But then we took an analysis of the risk.
How are you as a risk to the bank?
And that could have been reputational risk.
Nowadays, it's shifted away from your financial positioning.
You can have 800 credit, two, three hundred thousand dollars in the bank, But you go on social media and you say, you know, I think the election was stolen.
And they will shut you down.
It's now all about reputational risk in the banking network.
And that's what's crushing people.
In addition to that, it gets even more maniacal.
If I go to a gun store, and let's just say for some reason I have a Wells Fargo account, and I go to buy ammunition.
They know that I'm buying something at a gun store and they will decline my card.
There's an algorithm that runs underneath it.
And when you call in and say, wait a minute, why did you decline my card?
I got plenty of money.
The average person that's going to answer that call, they don't know.
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While there is something afoot, it is happening.
As we have been working with Gab, we see, you know, people contact us all the time and say, look, we're waiting for this parallel card to really be in circulation and use because we're tired of having to call our bank and have this explanation that, well, no one knows why your account wants to buy.
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Listen, before that, as a bounty hunter, I'm like thinking, hey, I'm really doing great things for the world, and I'm bringing justice.
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So that it sounds like you're becoming more hyperbolic, but really you're just exposing and uncovering more of the truth.
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But that is because of the bravery of other people who are willing to say Hey, despite the fact that a major cable broadcast network tried to get me to come on, right?
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That's because of the bravery of the people that work here, but more so the consumer.
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It's going to be those people who are going to make Gab Pay successful.
And when Gab Pay is successful, the freedom that that introduces to other unsuspecting people I think that it's the momentum of the moment, right?
Yeah.
And the bottom line is that the support network out there, when you talk about Trump supporters and people that are conservative and Christians, 70, 80, 90 million people were founded on Christian values, and that's just a fact of what our nation is.
And so as we begin to gain momentum and as GabPay gets traction, you're right.
When people have the confidence to say what they want and they're not afraid of being canceled, that's the only way that this works.
It's the ultimate freedom.
It is.
And you see the emergence of groups like, there's a group called RePlatform.
You know, it's sort of antithetical to DePlatform.
So they're going to hold a convention in Vegas and it's all like-minded.
It's going to happen in March.
And they're all about, look, if you're tired of what's out there.
And they also, by the way, have the anti-COVID litigation team.
So they go after employers and they go after people that are forcing people to take the death jab.
And then they go back and they sue them.
And there's a group of lawyers that are working on this.
They work off donations, etc.
So, you know, the momentum is there.
And you're going to see a lot of these types of shows.
You're holding an event tomorrow.
But these large conventions, you know, that are coming out to support businesses that have otherwise been afraid to say anything, it is the reputational risk inside my industry that just stifles things.
And it's so odd because 20 years ago, they would do anything for a buck.
We didn't turn anybody down for any reason unless it was, you know, some sort of legal issue.
But now, I'm so surprised to see people that I've worked with for 25 years turn their back on what we're doing.
Hey, I know we're buddies, and I know we've done a lot of things and been successful, but I just can't do the conservative thing.
You're talking about cowards.
I'm talking about big-time cowards.
And it's difficult because you grow up in an industry, and then they turn their back on the very thing that founded that industry.
And I think that the biggest thing you mentioned earlier, it's the demons, it's all of these things.
The infiltration of that sort of thinking is what is turning our society into what it is now.
Look at young kids now that are influenced by this transgender movement, and we all know that it's a clicky thing.
We were kind of joking around when I grew up.
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Pin them, roll them.
Yeah, exactly.
And the polo shirt and the collar up and all that because that was cool.
Pop your collar, bro.
And if you didn't, you were a dork, right?
Yeah.
Now...
If you don't say that you're transgender, then there's something wrong with you.
Because kids and teenagers and young people, they need that affirmation.
It is true and has always been true.
So what better way to receive affirmation than to get on the latest...
You've got kids pretending to be dogs and lick out of bowls in classrooms.
We need to reopen insane asylums for these parents and put them in there, if not worse places.
These people are abusing the next generation almost irreparably.
Isn't it funny how some parents that are transgender all of a sudden say, well, I have two kids and one of them is transitioning and the other one is...
It's like, yeah, gee, I wonder where that came from.
I wonder why your children are behaving the way that they do.
And when we continue to remove the core values of what built us as a nation, it's going to infiltrate everything that we do.
And that's why parallel is here.
At the end of the day, parallel is about...
Our ability to say, I'm sorry, but that's not right.
What you're doing to our kids in our society is not right.
We're going to stand by what we say and what we believe, which is whether it's the Word of God or just core Christian values.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
It's not rocket science.
In our business, we've been asked several times, what's the secret sauce?
How are you doing all these things and working with Gab and working with other conservative channels?
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It's real simple.
It's who do you know that's willing to go to bat for you?
All those people I talked about that have abandoned ship over...
There's three, four, five institutions, real banks out there that certainly do lean to the right that have said, you know what, we'll stand with you.
And that's the only way this works.
You know, another biblical philosophy and value and word of God comes to mind.
And that is that if any man should cause one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better for him to have a millstone tied from his neck and thrown into the depths of the sea.
That's exactly right.
Extreme accountability.
We're big advocates for that.
We are too.
And so when we're talking about, you know, at the very beginning of our conversation, when I said, do you really think so?
You said they're hard to find.
I think there's a big bright light shining into the depths of hell right now.
And I think that they're illuminated very clearly.
Eliminating them should be very easy to do if we have the commitment of real Bible-believing Christians who don't want to be lukewarm and spit out and want to be brave and stand on their values with their shoulders rolled back, their head held high, and their back straight.
This is not that difficult to do.
And when somebody approaches you, you deal with it.
I mean, confidently.
Does that make sense?
It absolutely does.
And that's where you go back and we talk about the Bible and you talk about Daniel in the lion's den.
He knew that God was going to take care of him.
And I think that we have been indoctrinated with and have been presented with the idea that God isn't real and that it's made up and it's just a fantasy story when it really isn't.
When you do that, Christians out there start to lose their faith.
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They start to lose that confidence.
And what we're here to say is, say what you want and believe in what you want and stand up for it.
Like I said earlier, stop clutching the pearls and do something.
And what does it take?
It takes looking at, who am I banking with now?
Who are they contributing to now?
And if you like that, continue with them.
But if you don't, take your money out and move it somewhere.
If Christians out there always say, you know, turn the other cheek and...
We're out of time for that.
If you want to do something, you want to know who can help you, you first must look in the mirror and make a decision and say, I don't want to put up with this anymore.
I do want to go to church.
I do want to say that I believe in God.
And there's nothing that can stop you when you have the confidence.
What brings all of that together is when you can control the economics, when you can control their banking.
It's one thing to say, you know, I believe in these values and I don't like what's going on, and then your bank account gets shut down.
Then what are you going to do?
Right?
So we have to be the alternative.
We have to be the group of people that can provide that level of sort of armor and the arrows and the quiver in the fight against what's happening.
We're the economic front there.
You're talking about God commanding us to pick up this word and fight.
And, you know, in Vegas, I said, as a matter of fact, it's at the top of every show.
Yes, accountability is God's job, but it's also our job, too.
It's not solely God's job.
And that accountability doesn't mean necessarily extreme accountability for the bad actors that are killing kids, which we're going to see that into fruition.
We're going to watch the Mark By Words.
We're going to see that in Jesus' name.
These people get convicted after a fair and speedy trial.
We're gonna watch some Next Snap and I can't wait.
But when I'm talking about accountability in this sense, I'm talking about self-accountability.
And if you hold yourself accountable to what your beliefs are and you deal with the inconveniences and you attack things head on, you're gonna inspire other people to also follow in the lane of, or down the tracks, as Lon was talking, of self-accountability.
And if many people, millions, enough of us do that, Then just by default, we hold these evil people accountable.
Oh, 100%.
And it takes not just the accountability, but then also the action afterwards.
Even in the People's Republic of California, where I am currently living...
Oh, this is why you said everybody's a transgender.
Exactly.
There's a bank, there's a credit union in California called America's Christian Credit Union.
And they hold very strong to their beliefs, and they're luckily a partner of ours.
I've met with them many times, and...
The one thing they keep saying is we have all of these channels that are bringing people to the bank, but they're not actually doing anything.
They're signing up for an account, but they're not actually putting their money there.
So I would look directly into the camera to everyone watching and say, do something.
We're giving you the rails to take action.
You can't complain about non-action and you can't complain about the system if you don't know how to work within it and if you don't actually participate.
Just echoing all the things that we say on a daily basis here, essentially, and very eloquently.
Yeah, there is no plan.
Nobody's riding in on a white horse to save this country or to save your family or your kids or your bank account.
We have to be the plan.
That's right.
And that's why we appreciate coming on here because, you know, when you talk to normal people or people that aren't really savvy and you say, hey, you know, have you been on Gab?
They're like, what's Gab?
Gab has been suppressed so much.
And despite that, there's 20 to 30 million users worldwide on Gab.
And it's one of those best kept secrets that has to stop being a secret.
One of the things, even my wife loves Gab.
She loves your show, too.
She goes on Gab, and it's kind of like a gladiator area, because it truly is First Amendment.
Say what you want, as long as you're not threatening anyone, threatening real harm to someone.
And I think a lot of people like to watch.
They're kind of in the Coliseum watching the gladiators go at it.
But what we're starting to see with Gab, too, is you'll soon see a market that's very similar to Amazon.
We're working...
Very closely with Andrew on giving a place for Gab users and like-minded people, Christians, to go and sell their wares, sell their products, without worry of being shut down.
We provide those services now, but it would be great to have it all contained in one place where people feel confident, and hopefully that confidence starts to spread.
Like you said, it's a momentum that has to happen.
We see it with Bud Light, we see it with Disney, all of these things.
People are talking with their dollars.
But now they need to put those dollars in a safe place, and that's what we're here for.
Do you think that we took the Bud Light thing far enough, or do you think it's normally like the conservatives, and I'm talking about fake, lukewarm Christian conservatives, that are like, okay, well, enough is enough, and I actually like Bud Light, so who cares?
I don't think that we took it far enough, because Anheuser-Busch is going to survive.
They have a worldwide presence.
What I saw that was very interesting was Disney.
And we always talk about empires that fall.
The Romans fell because of corruption within.
When they started mucking around with the natural order of things, Rome fell.
Same thing with Disney.
When their executives came out and said, well, I'd really like to put in this type of programming everywhere that I can, they lost billions of dollars because normal people said, no, just not going to buy it anymore.
The difference between the boycotts I think on the conservative side versus the more progressive and liberal side is that conservatives actually have disposable income.
So you may say you want to boycott something, and if you're on the left, you don't have any money.
So you weren't buying the product anyway.
I think it was a strong signal.
Yeah, because they're on mom's basement pouch jerking off and playing Xbox.
So you go back to the Disney piece, that is an empire.
Disney is an empire, and you see it fall because they started talking about messing with the natural order of things and introducing programming that their consumers did not want to see.
And the worst thing is, Who's their demographic?
It's all kids.
And that's where I think the first step in normal parents, conservative parents, came out and said, no, we're just not going to do it.
And they canceled the crap out of Disney.
And they're still hurting.
And that's the momentum that we need.
We have to continue that.
We have to keep pushing that.
Organizations like Parallel and GabPay, the America's Christian Credit Union, the re-platform, that has to continue.
We have to see the right people at those places saying the right things, standing up, and being strong.
Well, look at the fervency of the enemy.
Because the enemy doesn't know the future, right?
The biggest lie is that the devil doesn't exist.
It's the greatest lie that he could tell.
He's clearly out there, and he's not going to stop.
And his minions, as I call them, and these people that are on the left, if you want to talk about that construct, I just don't believe it.
I believe it's manifested demons.
These people are acting with such fervency, and they stick together, and they're organized.
If we could act in that same way, people have to understand, we're at war.
Not just World War III in the sense that the military industrial complex is bombing the hell out of innocent kids everywhere.
We're at war, spiritual war, physical war.
We're being physically invaded at our borders right now.
People are being debanked.
People are being stuck with bioweapons.
People are being murdered.
We have mayhem in the streets.
We have illegal aliens just like running up with impunity, killing people, murdering the police.
We saw two kids laughing in court the other day because they murdered a former police officer intentionally.
They were laughing about it.
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They killed him for fun.
We are at war.
And we need to start acting like we're at war and be organized and do things like what you're doing.
You're at the tip of the spear, and I just want to thank you for everything you're doing.
It's our pleasure.
And to your point, we're going to war, and our enemy's bringing a sword, and we're bringing a stick of gum.
We have to stop thinking in terms of turn the other cheek and let God be the judge.
God will judge, and He may use us as the instrument by which justice gets delivered.
And we choose to start on the economic front because all wars have to be funded.
And if they can't take your guns away, they take away the ammo.
You probably saw Winchester just drop 30% of their contracts or 30% of production.
So they're only producing for the government.
Well, that raises the price of ammunition.
You talk about the immigrants coming in from the border.
How is it that after Israel is attacked, all of a sudden we have thousands of people in major cities across the U.S. marching?
How is it so quickly organized?
It's all under our nose and if we don't figure it out soon, it's only going to get worse.
And I have a fear that people that don't stand up, people that feel like they can stand behind this world of convenience and complacency, are just going to let our country get overrun.
Lonnie and I are not going to allow that to happen and we appreciate you.
I'm having us on so we can talk about it.
We appreciate Andrew Torba.
I think that the Christian movement, it's been demonized.
It just really isn't.
At the end of the day, all we're promoting is Christian values.
That's it.
Just be a kind person.
Let's start there.
And the rest of the value sets are important.
Like I said, growing up in church, Church of Christ, very strict church, was fun.
It allowed us to see...
How life can be.
And then when I moved away from Texas, I grew up in Texas, and I started going out specifically to California, I thought, This is really kind of evil out here because no one has a center of moral, they don't have this sort of moral compass to guide them anymore.
They just do whatever they want.
They feel empowered to do it, and it's killing us.
Well, I feel empowered after talking to you because I know that there are morally upright people out here that believe the things that we believe, and they're completely, you know, they say them with conviction.
I believe you.
I believe what your motivations are.
You're giving us a weapon.
You're giving us a vehicle to fight back against these demonic forces.
Dan Eddy, thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
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