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Nov. 7, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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CrossTalk: AZ GOP TELLS ALL! Is it Too Late To Fix America’s Elections?
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Welcome to Cross Stock News.
I'm your host, Edward Zoll, and this is my wonderful partner, my co-host, Lauren Witzke.
We are joining you today with some somber news.
Over the past week, we lost one of our producers.
Our producer, Frankie, also known as Evenmore Based, is resting with the Lord now.
It is a tragic, tragic situation.
We loved him so much.
Yeah, we did.
And, you know, it's something to be said for those like, you know, who worship God.
So he was a worship leader.
He would lead worship every morning for the Bible study that Ed holds.
And you still continue to hold it.
But, you know, he was so loved.
We have like a very family tight knit staff and it was like losing a family member.
So please be praying for us.
Please be praying for Frankie's family.
And we, especially, he was young.
He was only about 30 years old.
No, he was not vaccinated because people always ask.
Frankie was one of the more anti-vaxxers.
He was even more based.
Yes, he was even more based than that.
So don't even try to say that he was vaccinated because that's slander.
He was not vaccinated.
No, it's just extremely sad what happened.
So, you know, just please keep Crosstalk News in prayer.
Please keep Frankie's family in prayer in the whole network.
He was the one who produced Candace Taylor's show.
He helped with Deanna Lorraine.
He would make Stu's compilations.
He was just a real blessing to have when we had him.
Very, very talented.
He was one of those people that you didn't have to tell him the same thing twice.
He figured it out.
Actually, one of his clips that he shared of Stu was actually shared by the Russian military during a hearing.
So his work had actually been shared by the Russians in a military briefing.
Is that right?
That's right, yes.
It was about a statement from Karen Kingston, an interview with Stu, you know, with Frankie.
Frankie, there's so many things that can be said about him.
Very loving individual.
He expressed his love for Jesus specifically through his music.
Yes.
And one of the greatest gifts that he has left behind to his friends, his family, and the world at large is an archive of hymns, carols, too.
Yes.
And...
Yep, we did a Christmas caroling thing last year.
Yes.
And we thought it would be a good tribute to our good friend, our good friend and our brother in Christ that we will see again and give a big old hug to, to play one of the hymns that Frankie played and was played every morning, every couple weeks.
We cycle through so many.
This is one of my favorite that he produced.
This is Frankie or even more based.
I sing it to the Lord.
piano plays softly
Bless the Lord, oh my soul, oh my soul.
Worship His holy name.
Sing like never before, oh my soul, I'll worship your home.
The sun comes up, it's a new day, darling, it's time to sing your song again.
Whatever may pass and whatever lies before me, let me be singing where the evening comes.
Last
the Lord, all my soul, all my soul Worship this holy name Seen like never before And
you're slow to anger Your name is great and your heart is kind For all of your goodness I will be the same Ten thousand reasons for my heart to find Bless the Lord,
O my soul, O my soul.
Worship His holy name.
Sing like never before, O my soul.
I want you to call me And on that day when my strength is failing The end draws near and my time has come
Still my soul will sing your praise unending.
Ten thousand years and then Bless the Lord, O my soul.
O my soul.
Worship as whole.
Sing like never before.
O my soul.
I'll worship your Lord.
Lord, I worship your Lord Lord, I worship your Lord Lord, I worship your Lord Lord, I
worship I worship your Lord As you said, as a worker, never said no.
Very, very smart, innovative.
As a brother in Christ, I know a dozen or more people that just from spending time with him and speaking to him about the Lord, they made the decision to join the kingdom and not live out in the wilderness anymore.
It's irreplaceable.
Like our entire team, I try to tell them as much as I can, but it is true.
The people that the Lord has brought to us, has blessed us with, they're irreplaceable and there is no replacement for Frankie.
No, of course not.
No.
Well, please, like I said before, please be praying for us during this difficult time.
Now, we don't mean to blackpill you.
I just wanted you guys to know that somebody who was working behind the scenes of a lot of these shows on this network would not have been produced without him.
You know, he was...
Making the graphics he was designing, he was such an important part of this team.
And it is, we're pretty devastated.
But Ed, we should probably get into news before we...
Well, sure.
You know, and there is a dovetailing to news.
You know, we see what's happening in the Gaza Strip, for example.
You know, there's wars and rumors of wars, you know, much of what the Lord told us about we would see in the end times.
I would say the deaths, they're saying, is almost cresting 10,000 in the Gaza Strip.
It's interesting for us Americans, think about 10,000 Frankies being taken away.
Yeah.
No, no.
The death toll is astronomical over there.
Israel, I mean, what was supposed to be the appropriate response?
You know, they killed, allegedly, Hamas killed 1,400 people.
Israelis, they went back and killed 10,000.
4,000 children.
You know, it's...
It's just, you know, I really think we're crossing into some end times territory, Ed.
You know, we talked about it for a long time.
I didn't really ever think it was coming until now.
Like, watching crazy things manifest before us.
We're watching stuff in the Middle East.
We're watching as our own government is persecuting.
It's beginning to persecute Christians, where now you can't even criticize what is happening in the Middle East, or else you are given a label.
They're trying to say you're a Hamas supporter, you're a terrorist supporter, and just for opposing the war.
And that's on purpose.
That's propaganda.
It's to link Christians and people that oppose or anybody who opposes this war as terrorists.
So they see us as the enemy.
So the government has a reason to go after, you know, people that oppose this war.
I think for quite some time, good Christians in this country have been taken advantage of to fight other people's wars, to bring evil people into power, and in a lot of ways to use the prosperity and wealth of this nation To build up grave, evil kingdoms around the world.
You know, the situation in Israel, it perplexes me because, as you noted, one of the propaganda points is if you are calling for a ceasefire, then you are now considered an ally of terrorism, an ally of Hamas.
That's ridiculous.
I mean, you can be a peacemaker, according to the book of Matthew, and not be someone who is directly involved in the murder or attacking of innocents.
Right.
Yeah.
Blessed are the peacemakers.
You know, that is what the Bible says.
It doesn't say in the New Testament, you know, after Christ died on the cross, that covenant changed.
It's not just go kill every man, woman, and child and, you know, just plunder, you know, and turn Gaza into a parking lot.
You know, this is a different covenant where, you know, people receive grace.
Well, the new thing is not just to turn it into a parking lot, but an atomic hole.
There was a cultural minister.
He's head of the Heritage Ministry in Israel.
He actually was fired transpositioned for this statement.
Lauren, he wants Gaza to be nuked.
Yep.
They were calling for that early.
Ben Shapiro and...
That other Jewish talking head, Mark Levin.
They were saying that, you know, if America doesn't provide the correct military or enough military equipment, we're going to nuke everybody.
We're going to Samson option them all.
They've been saying that.
And the public outrage for it is probably the only thing that has stopped it from happening.
And I think the Jews have some common sense that if they were to nuke that land, then it would not be usable for crops, commerce, and a radioactive plume cloud might blow over to Tel Aviv.
Or the $60 million oil pipeline that is being put there.
You know, if it's all nuked and you're untouchable and you can't work on it, what good is it to you?
So that's why.
Because it's a land grab.
It's a land grab.
It is a land grab.
And this is becoming a little more apparent.
They're not going to probably acquiesce to a ceasefire unless the Lord unleashes the heavens on them, like they did before the invasion.
You know, remember the rain that shut down the military's ability to go in.
But I think what they're trying to do, Lauren, is they will take probably up to a third.
Of that country.
I've heard this proposed, and it sounds like something they would do.
A third of the angels rebelled against the Lord.
A third is taken by Israel of Gaza.
And they build a city.
They build the southernmost city right now in Israel is Ashkelon.
And there's interesting biblical stories about Ashkelon.
I think Israel would like to write their own history now.
They want to build a new Gaza.
A new Gaza.
They don't need the whole Gaza Strip for this.
You know...
If we're going to be giving military equipment, American soldiers and their lives, and $14 billion to Israel, you know, if we're going to be sending American troops and American military equipment and American $14 billion, I want to know what's in it for us.
Now, I've had my eye on the Holy Land, Jerusalem.
And I'm just saying, you know, why do Christians not have a right to that land?
We do.
I think that if we're going to start picking claims, I do think that Christians should control where Christianity came out of.
I'd love to have control of the area where our Lord and Savior was crucified.
I think that this would be a novel concept.
Maybe the citizens of Israel should be very careful with the exercise of a religious claim to the land, because there may be others that have a religious claim to the land.
Well, I mean, that's where Christianity was born, was on that cross on Calvary.
You know, we should...
Christians, you know, Christian conquering?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But, you know, they claim that, like, yeah, of course it's a holy land, but how come we don't have a right to it, we as Christians?
Because they hate us.
Oh, okay.
And that's the thing about it, too.
I want to be very clear in my position on this stuff, is that...
I don't want to see the Muslim masses sent to Canada or America or Europe.
I also know that in some of these Islamic countries, they are not too kind to Christians either.
But that's not what we're discussing right now.
I hear the talking points all the time.
Just have to go through them.
We're talking specifically right now about the carpet bombing and potential nuking, which I don't think they'll do, thank God, but the killing of Muslims in the south portion of that peninsula.
That's what we're talking about right now.
We're talking about the killing of Muslims in the Gaza Strip.
Christians already don't have equal access.
Yet Christians are funding this genocide or funding the bombing runs or funding the conquest.
Right.
We should start going back to an era of manifest destiny and imperialism if we're going to act as an imperialist nation.
I think the problem we have, Lauren, is that...
You and me, we don't control the government.
No.
We're supposed to have a say.
We're supposed to have a representative government, but we do not.
It's not a representative empire at all.
Yet we're enlisted to pay for it.
And it's starting to feel like we don't have anything left to give.
Right.
No, it's true.
We're broke.
People can't afford to feed their families.
They can't afford to go to a grocery store.
They can't afford gas.
Things are looking rough.
And I don't think it's going to get any better.
You know, did you see what happened to Thomas Massey this week?
Basically runs every single politician in our country, started hitting Thomas Massey very, very badly.
They have been preparing hit pieces on him.
All this stuff because he voted against foreign aid, more foreign aid to Israel.
He called it a giant shakedown from Israel, like a shakedown of the American taxpayer for Israel, which I commend him for that because he was the only Republican, I think, who voted for it because he believes that all foreign aid is unconstitutional.
And I got to respect that.
I think I do also.
Isn't he the one that had family that was killed?
No, that was Justin Amash.
That was Justin Amash.
Okay.
He may have voted against it.
That's interesting.
No, but Justin Amash is an independent, so it wasn't a Republican.
Yeah, so Thomas Massey.
Well, this bloodlust on the right wing is so crazy because they don't want to do anything about the bloodshed on our border.
They don't care much about the fact that this country has spent the youth in an endless war on terrorism in the Middle East, Afghanistan, Iraq.
We're not a strategic people.
None of these decisions end up benefiting us.
And that's why we have to oppose imperialism to the degree that we don't direct it.
But in respect to this country, right now we face another round of persecution.
Censorship bills based on which side, I guess, you pick.
If you pick the side of peace, you are hated by both sides, to a degree.
I know that the Palestinians, they want a ceasefire, but partially it's a ceasefire to regroup and maybe attack again.
Israel for sure, for sure is using this as a land grab.
So as an American who is not benefiting on either side of this, I look at this and I wonder, what is the root?
Well, the root is religious fanaticism in a sense.
It's greed, really, at the heart of it.
It's what James said.
Israel wants what the Palestinians have.
And where are the Palestinians to go?
We've talked about this extensively.
Well, they had a plan.
The Ministry of Israel, they had a leaked document that said that they were going to send...
They had a plan, actually a pre-coordinated plan, which is just amazing because this was a surprise terrorist attack.
They had a plan to send the Muslims to Spain, Italy, and Canada.
And Canada, yeah.
And Canada.
So they were going to send them to more European-style countries.
Regions.
It's always like send them to the West or send them into European countries and that kind of thing.
But they literally rape and pillage.
Yes, they do.
And it's sad to say, but look, it's not the highest IQ group.
None of these things should be used to justify genocide.
That's the line.
It's like, I would rather that Israel would treat them with mercy and grace and give them a portion of land to start...
They want a country, but I don't know if Israel's going to give them a country.
Well, it's not like they were always like that, Ed.
You know, they used to be...
The Palestinians used to be very European.
The British came in.
They were extremely, very much like us.
But that's what happens when you are...
We're forced to live in a concentration camp, not really get an education, not really get a job, not really learn anything.
You kind of devolve as a group of people.
And that's what we watched happen to them under oppression.
They were oppressed.
And then you throw them into countries after living in the third world.
Of course they can't assimilate.
Of course they can't adapt.
Does that mean that we should just kill them all?
No, it doesn't.
And that is what they're using as justification is that, oh, well, these people are monsters and, you know, they do this and do that and they, you know, they're all terrorists and, okay, but it's not all true.
You know, there's like little babies and little children that never had a chance to live that are dying.
Well, the truth is that...
And they're not even trying to avoid it.
No.
While in 2006, a portion of the population in that region voted for this government, the part that's being overlooked is that the majority of the people who currently live there, about 1.15 million of them being children, you know, and military-aged males, maybe in their teens, in their 20s, they weren't even alive to vote.
So you're telling me that the group that has no opportunity, they have no avenue out of this region and is being demonized and probably they've lost many of their friends, they've lost family members.
That group is somehow responsible for the sins of a political party that was seeking revenge.
I don't accept it.
And I think that the blood needs to not be on America's hands.
There will be blood on many people's hands after this war.
The things that are being condoned, the hospitals that are being bombed, the humanitarian centers that are being disabled and destroyed.
God sees all of it.
Yes.
Yes, He does.
And you know, so we are facing the end times.
It really appears so, what we're seeing happen all around us.
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You know, as these times get crazier, I do feel the Lord brings very, very like-minded and equally positioned people to us to speak to, to hang around with, to strategize with.
And interestingly enough, we had the opportunity to speak to a whole delegation of Christians and America First patriots here this past week.
We had a delegation from Arizona, which included the wonderful and very interesting Wendy Rogers.
I've loved Wendy since I found out she had a similar path to my sister in the Air Force.
But more than just that, she's just a great grandmother.
Great woman.
A great leader.
Yeah, she is a good example of someone, a politician.
If you want to know what a politician looks like that isn't bought, paid for, or has blackmail on them from Jeffrey Epstein's list, look no further than Senator Wendy Rogers.
Now, we sat down with not only Senator Rogers, but also the head of the GOP there.
In Maricopa County.
In Maricopa County.
You heard of that one.
I'm sure everybody knows about Maricopa County, Arizona.
So we're going to talk.
We sat down and we talked with them a little more about the path forward.
Is there even hope or is our country done?
Check this out.
Welcome to Crosstalk News.
I'm Lauren Witzke, here with a special, a very special guest.
I call her America's State Senator, Wendy Rogers.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Now, I remember watching your campaign.
I remember your original campaign for state senate you were running, and you were just a humble, Air Force veteran.
You fought for our country.
You love our country.
You love America.
You love election integrity.
That's obvious as well.
But what inspired you to run for office?
Well, great to be here.
We were at Mar-a-Lago last night celebrating Dinesh D'Souza's premier of police state.
And so a lot of fantastic conservatives were together.
And that's an energizing event.
It's a sobering situation that our country's in.
As you mentioned, I've been very blessed.
My husband and I have been married 45 years.
We have two adult children, and our seventh grandchild was born two days ago, premature, but doing well.
And so this is the country where someone like me can become an officer in the Air Force, go to pilot training as one of the The first women pilots.
Back in the day when women weren't allowed to fly combat, there were essentially two choices for the kind of aircraft we could fly.
Either a big tanker or a cargo transport jet, which I flew, which was the C-141.
I did that for a number of years worldwide.
Then I retired as a lieutenant colonel, went to live in Arizona.
My husband and I had the two kids who were school age at that time.
We homeschooled them and opened a small business, a home inspection business, which we had for 23 years.
So we created jobs.
We inspected people's homes.
Home buyers trusted us to give them an honest assessment of the systems and the structure of the home.
And as that was sort of winding down and the kids were growing up and going to college and so forth, I looked to serve in another way.
And I looked into running for office.
Well, I think I'm one of the few who can say it took her six attempts to get elected.
Six attempts over a 12-year time span to get elected.
I was pretty unconventional in how I ran.
I would bicycle before e-bikes.
I would bicycle door to door.
And I would get my petition signatures and so forth.
And then we relocated to Flagstaff, Northern Arizona, kept our home in the Phoenix area because when you get elected you have to have two homes, one to go to the Capitol from every day when we're in session, and then one up in our district.
And that, when you met me, I was getting elected for the first time from up there.
And that's a district which to this day spans a huge swath of the state, four counties, not Maricopa County that everyone's heard of, but four other counties of the 15, only 15 counties in Arizona.
Right.
That's been an interesting odyssey because I went door to door a lot, some with my bicycle, some with my truck, and I went across all these rural counties and homes and these people would say to me, you're the candidate?
You're showing up at my home?
How did you find my house?
Well, you're on the voter rolls and I have GPS. And so I would show up and they were just incredulous that I would literally drive up their windy dirt road and knock on their door.
And take the time to speak with them.
You know, it's actually a statistical fact that people are 80% more likely to vote for you if they meet you in person.
So you went out And a lot of candidates don't realize that it's not all glamour and glitz.
It's sweaty.
Yes, it is very sweaty.
Dirty door knocking.
Right.
And then, of course, I am kind of dauntless in fundraising.
And people say to me, well, you know, you have people from all 50 states who donate to you.
Yes, I do.
Because the little old lady in tennis shoes in Connecticut doesn't have a Wendy Rogers who fights for her.
Exactly.
And I don't take a penny from lobbyists.
Really?
Which is very unusual.
I think Matt Gaetz is the only other politician I've heard say that.
Really?
And the lobbyists just scurry and cower down at the Capitol when I walk in because I don't meet with them.
Now, if I need to meet with someone on a Second Amendment issue or a pro-life issue, I will meet with those lobbyists.
But they don't give me money.
They just give me their time and their expertise.
And then when lobbyists do meet me, where they're sort of cornered with me in an elevator or something, they realize I'm not this ogre, that I'm actually okay.
And Flagstaff, for that part, is a very liberal city.
Actually like me because I get them the funding they need most recently, for example, for flood mitigation because of forest fires.
And so those are issues that are transcendent.
Those are nonpartisan.
And then they meet me and they realize, hey Rogers, everything we read about her isn't true.
She's not this, she's not that, she's helping us.
Right.
It has become a political theater to a degree.
I've watched as American politics have become political theater.
It's become a popularity contest.
They forget.
They're taking all the money from the lobbyists and all these corporate interests, but when it comes down to it, the things on the ground aren't getting done.
Important things.
We can't get funding for our roads here.
That kind of stuff.
That really matters.
That's how you cross over and really...
You represent your voters.
You know, I feel like I am not represented at all.
And it is, I feel that here in Florida, felt that here in Delaware, and it's a special kind of politician that can deliver on those things where you're actually heard, and you actually deliver on what is needed.
Now, I know that there has been significant efforts to try to oust you.
Apparently you're a little too effective.
They didn't succeed, though.
And I think you're here to stay for a long time.
But, you know, why is that?
Somebody who is so effective, who gets things done and works across the aisle, doesn't take lobbying interests as a payout or you can't be bought off.
Is that why you think that there has been an effort to kind of take you down?
Yes.
Last session in particular, my social media was particularly sharp-edged.
And so the Democrats seized upon this.
They knew that I was kind of an outrigger.
And we didn't have the Arizona Freedom Caucus as we do during this session, which is a real coalesced group of senators.
I'm not actually physically in it, but very closely aligned to it.
So there are far more Wendy Rogerses in the Arizona Senate today than there were two years ago.
So two years ago I was, as you describe, someone who they tried to take out.
And so these Democrats colluded with rhino Republicans to try to take me out.
And I was just talking earlier in the warm-up area here in your studio about the day that I was censured.
The day I was censured, I didn't learn about it being something that was going to happen until I saw it on Twitter.
Imagine.
My colleagues were colluding earlier that morning on the wording of a censure against one of their own members, and I didn't even know about it.
So fellow Republicans.
Yes.
And so when that happened, I caught wind of it 90 minutes prior.
It was during the lunch hour.
So I went down to confront the Senate president, who's no longer in office.
She didn't run for re-election.
And two of her henchmen also who are no longer in office.
And all three sat there like fat cats in her office.
And I walked in and she said, you can sit down and close the door.
I said, I am not sitting down.
I am not closing the door.
And I want to know how this developed and what is your charge against me?
What have I done wrong?
And they couldn't really specify other than, oh, well, you said you would destroy us politically if we didn't agree with you.
When was that something?
And then I kept getting scolded by them.
And then they said, but you can apologize.
I said, I do not apologize.
And then finally I walked out and I said, do you not see that 250 years of blood and treasure have been spilled for our freedom of speech and you are giving it?
Yeah.
And, you know, it's funny because I think you're talking about the Senate president, Karen Phan.
Is that correct?
She's the one that ended up losing her own political career and destroying herself by attacking the one person who is fighting for us.
And it just goes to show that you have more support than you know.
But I know it's hurtful.
Like, it's your own colleagues, your own Republicans who are doing this to you.
And as somebody that they know you're doing so much for their county, you look really good, you sound really good, people are really starting to like you, that was a threat to them.
People that are a threat to the status quo and how things really, you know, they're like, oh, well, that's just not how we do things around here.
You're not allowed to come in here and shake things up.
And, you know, they politically target people.
As we've seen with President Trump, what's happening to him as well.
Now, can you tell me what happened in Arizona in the 2020 election?
I know that a lot of us are looking extremely hopeless.
We're feeling hopeless.
Elections don't matter.
Why even show up to vote?
Because my vote doesn't count anyway.
And if I do vote, they're just going to bring in some ballots, dump them, and outnumber me anyway.
Now, is this something that we can fix, that has been fixed, especially in the state of Arizona?
Or is this something that we're still working on?
There's hope, or I wouldn't be in the fight.
We do have an illegitimately installed so-called Governor Hobbs.
We do know that 2020 was stolen.
We know that 2022 was stolen.
I'm now chairman of the Senate Elections Committee, so I've had testimony purposely shown that Thank you.
Thank you.
So we've seen a lot of this, and it's then been presented in Cary Lake's lawsuit, but then we have these judges and courts who are hopelessly, in many respects, corrupt.
We've also seen Abe Hamaday's trial.
He ran for Attorney General and so-called lost by 200 votes.
200 votes!
Guess what though?
There are 9,000 ballots that still haven't been counted.
Wait, what?
Not counted?
How is that possible?
That he lost by 200.
Right, and so he's asking for a retrial just so that 9,000 ballots can be counted.
His ask is very different than Carrie Lake's litany of asks in her lawsuit.
And so you have these two lawsuits wending their way still through the court system, yet you also have Carrie Lake simultaneously, thankfully, running for the United States Senate, but she's still pursuing her lawsuit.
And you have Abe Hamaday now running for the United States House of Representatives Congress for a district that Debbie Lesko has occupied the seat of out in the western part of Phoenix.
And he grew up there as a little kid, so it's a good fit.
So you have two real champions who are still fighting in the legal circuit, but running for office.
This demonstrates the tenacity and the sort of stick-to-it-ness that two examples of champions are promulgating because they want to continue to have a voice.
They want to continue to expose.
Every time you put something out on social media, Or on your venue here, or I do, we're exposing more and more and more so that it becomes irrefutable.
And that's where I don't know how all this is going to turn out, but it's incumbent upon me and you, you feel it, your staff here feels it, that we have to continue to expose, expose, expose.
We have the Elon Musks of the world now.
We have Rumble.
We have these ways.
We have Dinesh D'Souza.
We have to continue to expose because...
I talked to Rasmussen last night.
He said that it's greater than 50% now, I think, even of Democrats.
They question these outcomes.
So I'm saying that we continue to pull on these strands of yarn.
We don't know what will unravel the skein, but we must continue.
And you're going to ask me, well, have we gotten any laws passed to correct where the fraud has occurred?
We haven't.
But we've exposed a lot.
And we are still working on some measures that I can't elaborate on, which may shore up our situation.
And one more thing.
The Arizona Senate has, in effect, become a de facto AG. Attorney General in the state of Arizona.
How is that possible?
They're not part of the executive, they're the legislative.
True.
But we've become a party to several lawsuits.
It's amazing.
I didn't even realize this until I saw the list.
There are numerous lawsuits that the Arizona Senate has become a party to, to hold the governor and to hold the executive in line.
And there's going to be another one probably on the elections procedures manual, which the Arizona Secretary of State has, of course, been in control of.
But if he doesn't do the right thing, then we'll go to court.
Okay, so you keep fighting.
Yes.
So when did, okay, so growing up my entire life, it was one day, one vote.
Everybody would show up to the voting booth and go cast their vote.
But elections, COVID changed everything.
Yes, on purpose.
It was absolutely planned.
I mean, and it was obvious that it was an orchestrated event to remove the current sitting president, but also anybody who could potentially get in their way.
They played the left, played the long game.
They put their people in the right court systems.
They put their people at the ballot box.
They put their people counting the ballots.
It was a long, orchestrated effort, and that was very obvious.
Now our elections are a mess.
Hardly anybody has one day, one vote.
You have to vote in person.
In fact, they say that it's racist if you want people to vote in person on Election Day because some people can't get licenses or some people can't get a ride to the ballot box.
Now, I am of the belief that America really needs to crack down on voting.
One day, one vote.
If you can't show up, that sucks for you.
And also, I feel like voting should cost us something.
It costs us our time or whatever because it's important to us.
It's not just something that you just fill out a ballot, somebody comes and gets it, you have no idea what happens again.
It should cost you something again.
I actually personally believe that it should go back to landowners back in the day, back in America, because it really did.
I mean, we were voting not because we were told to or because some ballot harvester came and offered me a lollipop to vote, but because it cost us something.
And elections have just become like it's gone in shambles.
It really has.
So like I know that Arizona pulled a A very fun legislative move a while ago where it was you shut down the machines, right?
You made it so the machines had to pass a certain kind of inspection in order to use them for the upcoming election.
Is that correct?
Well, these so-called logic and accuracy tests in Maricopa County became a joke also because they knew they were going to flunk and yet use them anyway.
And then, of course, during the Cary Lake election, In her lawsuit, she brought this out, how the wrong-sized paper, or the 19-inch versus the 20-inch image on the paper, and it made the machine reject the ballot, and all these long lines of people couldn't vote or had to wait hours in the heat.
And it gets pretty hot still in the first week of November.
So all these shenanigans occurred.
And so if you ask me, well, what single stopgap measure could be made to get free and fair elections back, there isn't an answer to that because the mail-in ballot is really one of the biggest avenues of cheat.
And then the voter rolls are the other very problematic area.
Now, the Maricopa County Republican Party represents Republicans from 60 to 63 percent of voters.
In other words, out of 15 counties, Maricopa County is the predominant segment of the votership of the whole state.
And the GOP of Maricopa is led extraordinarily well right now by Craig Berland, and he, I think, is going to be on your show.
And what we hope for with him is this huge cadre of volunteers who will clean up the voter rolls and do it right, do it preemptively.
I've never seen anything on a scale like this.
And the brilliant researchers who know where to tease out the data and to get this done right are the very people who testified in my committee.
So it's an organization little known but valiant.
They will, in large part, save our country.
And they're called We the People Arizona Alliance, led by Shelby Bush, who testified in my committee.
And they have these SCIFs, Special Compartmental Information Facilities, around the state where they're still doing the lion's share of the work, comparing the signatures that were quickly passed through, but they're refuting those and documenting all of that.
There's one up in Xolo in my District up in Northern Arizona, set up in the Trump store in a back area.
I mean, this is where the grassroots can make the difference.
People say, how can I make a difference?
People come up to me all over Arizona and they say, how can I make a difference?
I say, well, do you want to come in somewhere every day and look at signatures?
Sure, I'll do that.
So I connect them to her and to her organization, which does far more than what I'm just describing.
And they will be key in cleaning up the voter rolls.
And so everyone on this show, if you really want to help, we need to raise five million dollars for Maricopa County.
To be able to clean up the voter rolls and to do this brilliant, brilliant work that they're doing.
And that is going to be instrumental in helping us win back our country.
So you have the voter rolls, you have the lack of chain of custody on the very last day of the election, which we noticed, and we're trying to do something about that legislatively.
And then you have, you know, the We saw a lot of that.
Right.
And so we're on to them in large part with the six or seven waves of fraud that have been occurring.
Is that going to be enough to get a freer, fairer result?
We hope so.
Or I wouldn't be in this unless I didn't think so.
And so we have to overwhelm them, as President Trump says, with sheer numbers and then fix things where we can.
And that's where I think people's donations, time, and talent should go.
That's great.
And you can go in the link in the description below to support their efforts in Maricopa County.
I'll be sure to get that from you.
So, alright, last question for you.
So, there's a lot of talks about President Trump picking a VP. I thought you'd make a great Vice President of the United States to partner with President Trump.
It's Arizona.
He needs the state.
What do you say?
Would you ever?
You're so cute.
If President Trump called me up one day and said, hey, Rogers, will you be the deputy undersecretary for garbage collection?
Of course, I would say, yes, sir.
I will go wherever my country asks me to go.
I think I have probably an affinity for the homeland security space because of being a border state.
I have an affinity for anything DOD related because of my military background.
And I really think it comes down to loyalty and steadfastness.
President Trump will need people around him who he can count on and who he can trust.
And that's you, and that's people in this building, and that's those of us in Arizona.
And people come up to me all the time, they knew I was coming out here, and they said, if you talk to President Trump, Tell him rural Arizonans are for him.
And that is a palpable thing that I feel whenever I'm with my people.
They say, tell him rural Arizonans are for him.
Because that's a huge part of our state that people don't realize.
I mean, we have mountains, we have forests, we have farms, we have ranches.
It's not just Phoenix.
And They love him because he speaks to the heart and the soul of America.
And I represent a part of Arizona that is truly America.
Right.
I like that.
I would like a Trump-Rogers ticket.
I would certainly vote for it in 2024.
And hey, we'll see what happens.
We never know.
But I really wanted to thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us.
Like I said, again, you can either contribute to Wendy's efforts or her campaign or whatever.
Check the link in the description below.
Let's make sure we remember that Arizona Matters.
It was one of the most important states in 2020, and it is going to be one of the most important states in 2024.
Thank you so much for joining, and this is Crosstalk News.
Wow.
That is a great story.
She's great.
She's the kind of person that I think many Americans would still trust in politics.
And it's few or far between.
There's not many Wendy Rogerses out there.
I'm a Wendy Rogers for Vice President stan.
And she, hey, she didn't say no.
She didn't say no.
I think that she'd make a great vice president because she listens to her community.
She's not bought and paid for.
And Arizona's an important state, so running with somebody from Arizona is a good choice.
And she won.
You know, that's the thing.
People are like, oh, Carrie Lake, she won.
Okay, well, Carrie Lake...
Oh, I hate to say this, didn't win Arizona.
So, you know, what I'm saying, it's like, okay, I'm just saying it from a political perspective of Trump, what he and his advisors are thinking.
Okay, so she didn't win that seat, but then you're like, he likes, like, when you pick a vice president, it's somebody who has successfully seized a seat.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I would just say it outright.
In the sense of the governor's election, if she suspected fraud, the next step would have been to assume the governorship.
Yeah, she should have just taken it.
I know it's a tough thing to think about, but look, if you know that there was cheating.
You should have taken the seat.
But with respect to Wendy Rogers, she's loyal.
She's loyal and she's principled.
And she's the kind of person who would have President Trump's back.
Okay?
So I think in addition to this, we need people that are willing to take stands for what's actually destroying our nation.
That's ravaging our land.
We're very fond of children, children on the way.
We have many family members and team members that have kids, kids on the way.
Specifically, it's something that threatens them more than just the transsexuals and the deviants.
It's the sex traffickers.
Yes.
Well, see, recently, in a days in, in Miami, here in Florida, which Florida is a big place that has been blown up for human trafficking, a gentleman found a hidden sex trafficking dungeon or tunnel in his hotel room closet.
Check this out.
Yeah, but inside this three-star motel, this is what really freaked me out, up here by the front door.
Not this.
See the lapses, bro.
This world freaked me out.
Right by the front door.
What the fuck is that?
What the fuck is that?
What the fuck is that?
that's creepy fucked up shit
How are they supposed to feel safe?
There it is.
There he's in it.
Did you see that hole That was a tunnel.
Could you imagine you and your kids checking into a hotel room?
You go to take a shower and you come out and they're gone.
Like somebody came out of the closet, took them through a tunnel and never to be seen again.
You know, I absolutely believe that is happening.
Folks, you need to make sure you check your closets.
Check everything, every orifice that you can in your hotel room because these people are insane.
Like, and we are turning into a third world country.
And that is what happens.
They just snag your kids.
They sell them.
They take them.
Watch your back and make sure you double check everything because that is a human trafficking tunnel.
The flesh is being bartered.
And for this country, as the moral standard decays away, the acceptance and really the looking of the other way of this kind of a crime is becoming so prolific.
These idiots in government, I kind of give them too much credit if I call them idiots.
I think some of them are complicit with the cover.
I think some of them know better.
They certainly know better.
Think about it.
They were able to track...
They're extremely cunning.
Every single person who showed up at the January 6th protest back to their house using cell phone data, yet you're telling me that hundreds of thousands of children are taken and trafficked and abused and killed and we don't know where these children are going.
We don't know where these children have been taken and who's taking them.
No, I think that you can't sell me a bridge over a large block of water in Arizona, okay?
I know that the truth here is the government is complicit in sex trafficking.
Yes, and participants.
Look at Jeffrey Epstein.
There's a reason they're not releasing that list.
It's because some of those big people in government and global leaders are on it, and that's why.
Ghislaine Maxwell has a black book.
And she has used that to stay alive.
No one knows where it is.
I think she's holding it as maybe leveraging material, blackmail material, so they don't kill her in jail.
Well, I mean, okay, but like even if she, they did get, like they wouldn't release it because it's like going to incriminate people like, I don't know, possibly Joe Biden.
You think they're going to?
We saw what happened with Hunter Biden's laptop.
Had it not been for JP, a Mac store owner, getting fed up, he gave the FBI the evidence, everything they needed to prove collusion and corruption and human trafficking, and they hid it.
He literally had to go around the FBI to somebody else to say, hey, look at this, because they covered it up.
They even covered it up in social media as...
To social media giants as Russian interference in our elections and propaganda.
Disinformation.
Disinformation.
That's what's coming.
You think that they care to get a hold of Ghislaine Maxwell's black book?
Absolutely not.
No, they're scared of disinformation.
Right.
Disinformation is the kind of stuff that will put people in jail and also put you six feet under.
Yeah.
Because when it comes to murdering children and attacking people, Families go bananas.
I don't know if you've ever been around a grieving mother or father.
They don't put up with cover-ups.
But when it comes to our border, this is something that's a true America First principle and agenda item that you should care about.
You should care about your communities.
You should care about protection of your nation.
Well, the Arizona GOP, you know, they nominally have spoken about this.
But you know what?
At the state level, some of the officials there, they really are trying to do things.
And I got the sense to speak to one, Justine.
Yeah, she was great.
Justine was very good.
She's a state senator alongside Wendy Rogers.
Right.
She is fantastic.
Had a chance to meet her.
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I've heard this.
It's very sad to hear this.
Some people talk about the matter, like, this world's too evil to bring new children into.
No, you have to still procreate.
You have to still form families.
What we have to do is do a better job of protecting the families, protecting the sanctity of life, especially after this past week with our team.
We value life.
We'll fight to protect life.
You know, this interview, I hope you enjoy it.
This is one of the core issues of every border state, and especially a swing state.
Arizona right now is polling toward President Trump, that he would beat even President Biden.
The person that secures that state and protects the children is going to get the Christian vote.
Check out this interview.
Welcome to the program, Justine Wadsack, Arizona State Senator and fellow Christian and fighter of sex traffickers.
Yes, that is 100% correct.
Can you tell me about some of the problems you're facing in your state with regard to these deviants?
Oh, where do we begin?
Between an open border that are just allowing people to bring children across the border.
They rape these children.
They traffic them from other families that are in southern American states and countries.
But now we're watching people come in from all over the country and they're bringing children across.
Our border patrol agents are having a real issue because they try to pair their children with those who are walking across the border and say, is this your child?
And the children are terrified.
They separate the children from the families and the children are saying, that's not my family.
I don't know who these people are.
These people are being paid money to bring the children across.
It's a travesty.
But then we also have trafficking at another level, our foster care system through the Department of DES, which is DCS, foster care.
These children are disappearing out of our foster care system.
We have more than 3,000 of them missing, and nobody can find them.
Nobody can locate them.
So I don't understand how you can have a good family.
DCS comes in, investigates the family.
They usually...
Take the child without any question.
You then, as a parent, have to fight to get your child back.
It's always your guilty until proven innocent.
Meanwhile, your child is in the foster care system, while the parents usually don't have the money or the wherewithal to fight to get their child back.
And next thing you know, the child's just gone.
They're in the system.
They're gone.
Every child that is removed from the family and is successfully moved and trafficked through the DES-DCS system has a $90,000 price tag on their head in the state of Arizona because the state system gets paid And much of it is done through the Social Security Title IV-E, which funds DCS. So there's an incentive.
When you start incentivizing and monetizing a child being forever removed from their parents and moved into the system, it's a losing battle.
There's nothing we can do to stop that until we burn it down.
Oh, sure.
I think a lot of people, the citizenry at least, the people that vote, the people that have farms and families, they do want to burn it down.
They're so tired of the, it's past ineptitude, it does seem like complicity from the mechanisms of government.
But you mentioned the border and you mentioned the DCS. Trafficking.
A lot of states say that they're starved for resources and also jurisdiction.
I mean, you being from a border state, the federal government has a broad jurisdiction over parts of Arizona because of the border with Mexico.
The federal officials, I mean, you're a state senator, so you deal with legislature at the state level.
Is there ample funding to be able to address this?
Or you have to go and work in partnership with the federal government that doesn't seem to want to do anything on these issues?
The federal government does not have any interest in doing anything about this.
I've gone to DC. I've tried to meet with congresspeople to get attention to this.
We should not have federal funding going towards the states in their ability to terminate parents' rights.
So, in 2016, I actually caught one of my caregivers of my severely disabled child's...
I'm in the system where I have somebody who comes into my home, helps me take care of my daughter so I can work.
I caught that person stealing hours, so I asked DDD and DCS for an audit of hours.
Within 24 hours, DCS was at my door to take my children.
And it was at that moment that I realized there's an abuse of power, an abuse of process, there's no parental rights, nobody has a voice.
I also went through three years of suing the state of Arizona, and I did so to enable some sort of, we're trying to create case law so that we can show this is a failure.
Parents have nobody in our corner.
The Attorney General's not in our corner, the Governor, nobody was in the parent's corner.
And eventually I got everybody to settle with me and the next thing I knew I was flooded with parents from all over the country saying, you need to help me.
How did you beat the system and how do you still have your children?
Well, the problem I'm finding is that unless you have money for an attorney, Unless you have the wherewithal to read the laws and use the laws against the government, you're not going to keep your children.
The government will put their boot on your neck, period.
And so I was able to fight.
I won and I had a choice.
Go back to being a real estate agent and have a normal life or join this spiritual battle that we're in where parental rights are just being trampled on and they're coming for the kids.
I saw it firsthand.
They came for mine.
In regard to your role as state senator, are you able to pass any laws which can thwart this abuse?
And especially, I guess, in regard to the inaction from the federal government, what are you doing as a state senator to try to change this in your state?
I'm trying.
It would have been lovely if we could have had Carrie Lake as our governor, because then I would have been able to hand her this legislation that I've written, the many bills that I've written, and they would be signed and into law as of the 30th of October.
But instead, we got Katie Hobbs, and she is a, I'm going to say it, she's borderline communist.
She just will not have anything to do with bills that have common sense.
So I wrote bills that a parent should have a right to face their accuser.
When DCS is called on a parent, that parent should have a right to know who's making that call because we're finding that it's being abused and weaponized.
So DCS gets weaponized against the parent if they don't vaccinate their child.
You'll get a DCS call from the hospital or from the nurse or the doctor that says this parent refuses to vaccinate their child, take the child from that family.
It's America.
And the days that we're losing our most prized possessions are our children.
I hate to call them possessions, but that's my child.
You may not have that child.
It's your legacy.
It's my legacy.
And when they come for this because of things like you disagree with the school principal.
The principal will call the police and call DCS and you lose your child.
If you're found at a school board meeting and you're an activist trying to stand up for parental rights at a school board meeting, lo and behold, DCS is at your door.
So it's a way of making parents fear the government and silence those who are strong-minded and have a strong voice in fear that if they do step out of line And go against the government, they'll lose their children.
And so I wrote bills that were, face your accuser, right to a trial by jury of your peers.
We've lost all of our constitutional rights as parents in the DCS courts.
And those DCS courts are designed, take child first, make parent fight for child and fight for rights later.
So guilty until proven innocent is not Due process, and it's against our constitutional rights, and I'm fighting tooth and nail to write the bills that will make sure that we have our constitutional rights.
I'm not sure if you experienced this, but I have a lot of conversations with many people over the course of our job, and a lot of people, they don't really understand the rights that we were given, that were given by God and enshrined in the Bill of Rights and in the Constitution.
And one of the things about this that people misconstrue is, well, they'll say, but what do we do about those that do actually abuse children?
What is the proper process to protect these children?
Because, of course, we don't want cartel members.
We don't want sexual deviants to get their hands on children.
But what is the proper process?
And your testimony is very powerful because the system that was supposed to protect those people was used against you, and you weren't an abuser.
That's right.
We are supposed to have laws in place that allow us to protect our most vulnerable.
And I got into politics because I wanted to protect parental rights.
I'm a parents' rights activist, and I am an activist at heart and a politician in a very activist manner.
And I think it's really upset the left because they're used to these establishment Republicans that come in and they They fall in line.
They play by the rules.
They listen to somebody who's up here telling them how to perform and how to act.
And then along comes these new America First conservatives that came in and say, I'm sorry, but the government has exposed the tyranny I'm coming for you.
The only way to do it is you can't do it from the outside.
I've tried.
It took years and hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and fight the government from the outside.
So I had a mentality, if you can't beat them, join them.
And when I went in, it was a very simple promise, and that was do what's right.
Follow my Christian heart and my activist mind and write the bills that are for the I am of the people writing bills for the people and by the people.
And to write that many bills that were passed, I actually passed enough bills to create a state.
First, I guess you call it the freshman year.
I passed What do you call it?
You made a record?
I made a record.
Yeah, I made a record.
And so that just goes to show that if you do things with the right intent, the rest falls into place.
I don't know how else to put that.
Nobody's telling me what to do, except for the people.
I listen to the people.
We need more people to do that, and we don't have that.
Well, I know that, especially when it comes to the youth, two big issues that they're facing right now is drugs, whether it be physical, fentanyl, but also digital drugs.
You've got pornography addiction is rampant among the youth.
Also, from a spiritual standpoint, demon possession.
Yes.
Children are experiencing all kinds of spiritual attack, and the country at large is too busy with our own problems, our own things that take all our attention to address this.
As a state senator who's trying to seek to protect the children, what can you do?
That's a very tough question because we are fighting the man.
We're fighting a big brother.
They're always listening, always watching.
They're tracking a user's behaviors.
AI is a big problem.
AI is learning from the behaviors of our children through handheld devices.
And so then it's starting to feed the child.
If they start to look at something, they're going to start really throwing more and more of that to that child.
The LGBTQAI plus alphabet agenda is one of the most dangerous because not only is it coming for the children, but it's also bastardizing just the simplicity of what being a homosexual person might have been.
Now you have people that are part of the homosexual community that are saying, hey, we didn't ask for all of this extra stuff.
Now they're starting to fight their own.
So you're starting to see a much bigger issue with the coming for the children.
The illicit books, I wrote bills that were to give parents more of an authority to say this book is inappropriate.
I don't want my child learning about sodomy in school in K through 12.
And I was called a Nazi.
I was called a book burner.
And what the left is so skilled at doing is taking good intent and something that is, again, common sense, and turning it into something that it's not.
We are not Nazi Germany.
We are simply trying to protect the innocence of children, and they are coming after them at every turn.
Books, Internet, Google, Facebook, Instagram, it doesn't matter where, and now our schools.
So school choice is a very, very huge aspect of my presence in the state senate.
Well, I think that the subject of book burning and censorship is often misconstrued.
For example, we don't leave our front door open when we put down the blinds in our bedroom.
We don't come out of the house naked.
So there's a form of concealment that we're okay with.
And in regard to the concealment, I know for me, I've been very vocal on the issue of curtailing access to pornography.
Yes.
Especially with cell phone access, children, the books were a big issue in this county.
I'm sure it was for you, too, in your state.
But a lot of kids aren't reading at the library.
They're reading online.
They're reading on their cell phone.
The cell phone also is a gateway to hell for them.
And in regard to this, is there appetite among the Arizona caucus to possibly curtail the access, open as it is, of pornography producers to your state?
Oh, we had multiple bills that were on this issue.
I wrote a bill that was to stop the Drag Queen Story Hour, and I was very clear in my bill.
I actually used language from Arkansas, Tennessee, I think Florida was even one of the states where We found successful legislation, so I thought, okay, let's use successful language and put it into my bill.
And it was very clear, if it's prurient in nature and if it targets a child, it should not happen.
So prurient is sexual in nature or illicit.
And we were not going after drag queens that were performing in front of adults.
We just said, leave the children alone.
And, boy, they came for me.
They came for me so hard with the nature of my bills that they tried to recall me.
I was the only legislature in the entire state of Arizona.
Out of 90 legislators, I was under a recall in the whole first six months of my, almost nine months of my service.
That's crazy.
When do you have to run again?
I'm running right now.
I just finished my first session of my first term, so we get a two-year term.
So my first year of two years was spent defending this narrative that I'm a Nazi because I'm trying to get rid of the books.
I'm trying to stop, they call it a dance and art.
I'm not here to stop dance or art.
I'm not going to stop people from participating in plays or opera.
It's amazing how they would try to say it was like, Senator Watak hates Mrs.
Doubtfire now because she doesn't like drag queens.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
I don't want you to have a three-year-old come up and put a dollar bill in your g-string when you're a man dressed up as a woman.
It's a big difference.
Big difference.
It's always bogged my mind that there are people that defend the other side of this position.
It seems as if I've met, I guess, a few of them, but I just feel like they're in such a minority that how could they possibly enact change and enact laws?
But they have.
They seem to have normalized this.
It's very troubling.
One last thing about security.
I know that my state, Florida, we were sending sheriffs and officers out to other border states to try to help out.
Have they arrived?
Have they been helping with some of the security?
Or is it DHS's full control of everything at the border?
There's no impact from the state level.
When you're talking about border security and our sheriffs, we have great sheriffs in our state, but we also have very corrupt sheriffs as well.
I feel very fortunate to have Sheriff Dannels, who's down in Cochise County.
He's doing an exceptional job.
He's doing the best he can with what he has.
And Department of Homeland Security, that's another story.
That's federal.
I wish I had more control over them.
I'm all for states' rights.
I believe that we should be allowed to enact the Tenth Amendment and say, you know, we want to protect our sovereignty.
And we want to enact, we are a federation of states.
This isn't the federal government, and they should not have that ability to determine whether or not we have border rights.
Security.
Especially when that lack of border security is causing us to have such an issue.
We have an issue because they're flooding our hospitals.
They're flooding our streets.
They are taking all of the low-income housing that we had for veterans and for low-income residents that are taxpaying American citizens, and they're forcing those veterans and taxpaying Americans onto the streets.
So they're pushing our people out while they're taking over.
And if you go to a hospital such as Banner, you're gonna find the emergency room just flooded and filled with illegals, and none of them are paying.
Banner has to, by federal law, take care of them and give them their service.
And so we in Arizona are paying millions and millions of dollars to give free healthcare to people.
When my son, who has type 1 diabetes, He can't get free healthcare.
He's screwed.
Sorry, American citizen, you're not worthy, but these people who just came over from Africa through our southern border are going to get heart surgery and knee replacement.
What's a replacement?
There's so many forms of replacement.
They're replacing us.
I see white Christians being replaced.
I'm Indian.
I was born in England.
And among my race sect, we've completely dominated in Texas, for example, the IT industry.
And there's no...
There's no will to assimilate, and it's a problem.
I think when it comes to your state specifically, many people are watching because it was ground zero for the last, I'd say, last major steal.
I mean, the 2020 election, many people have questions.
But Cary Lake, I feel like that was just completely swept under the rug.
Yeah, they stole that election from Kerry.
And I'm not afraid to say that.
There was no way that Katie Hobbs won.
She was just like Biden in hiding in basements, hiding in bathrooms.
She was not campaigning.
She refused to have any sort of debate.
Nobody really knew what she stood for, but they knew that she was part of the Democrat Party, the far left Democrat Party, the Marxist side of it.
And so you just know what she stands for simply by who she's with.
Again, our state of Arizona would be a completely different situation right now if we had Carrie Lake in office.
She would be saving our state right now.
So what we did is we at least have a one-seat majority in the Senate, a one-seat majority in the House.
So we are still a Republican-led legislature, but we are a split government.
But thankfully, we have strong, strong leadership in our state Senate through Senate President Peterson.
We have strong leadership with the Arizona Freedom Caucus, which I'm a member, through Senator Jake Hoffman.
And so you have strong conservatives that are Christian, God-fearing warriors right now that are protecting the state from the legislative standpoint.
And I truly do believe that if we save Tucson, we save Arizona.
If we can save Arizona, we will save America.
And if we don't save America, we're going to lose the world.
We're going to lose everything.
So really, we are the epicenter.
And I believe my district, LD17 of Pima County, Arizona, we're it.
And we've managed to flip it.
And I'm proof of it.
Because if a strong conservative like myself was able to beat the establishment and the Senate President Pro Tem, who was a far middle-centrist Republican that was part of the problem, And then I came in and I was able to win.
That's very telling of this shift that's happening right now.
Well, it's very encouraging to know that we have options.
We have the ability to fight back.
And I think you have a very interesting testimony.
I'll be paying attention to your race, and I appreciate you joining us today.
Oh, thank you so much for this opportunity.
Lauren, I have not given up on politics, and this is why.
I think the Lord commands us in the nations we are in to influence its leadership, influence its society and structure.
I'm blackpilled.
I think it's over.
I don't blame you.
I think it's over.
I think it's over.
America's done.
Maybe Putin will give us some asylum, maybe.
I don't know.
Somebody else, but I'm already looking on where I can go.
Five acres and some vodka?
That'd be great.
I'll take it.
Okay.
You know, we can ride bears together, we can do all that, you know, whatever.
Bear riding, that sounds good.
No, it's a scary time, and I know my vote doesn't matter anymore.
Elections don't matter.
You know, we might have to just, you know, find somewhere safe to go, because even we're watching, even in Florida, you know, we're watching this demographic replacements getting closer and closer, like we're in central Florida, and it's just making its way up.
It creeps up.
More and more come in.
We had like 2.2 million illegals come in last year.
That's not to mention the millions of legal immigrants that we bring in every year.
People on H-1B visas and all this.
And we're seeing the absolute demographic replacement.
People are seething over these pro-Palestinian protests.
But how did they get here in the first place?
You opened your doors to Muslim countries and you called Trump racist because he wanted to deport them all or keep them out or ban them.
You know, it's just, you know, demographic replacement is real and it's destiny.
And I'm blackpilled.
Well, you may not believe your vote counts, but I'll tell you, your prayers do.
And I know that for those in this country, including us, I suppose, they don't have any else really to flee to.
You know, we got some countries in mind, but I'll tell you this, we're not giving up without a fight, and especially not a fight spiritually.
I think there may be a path, but I respect Lawrence's position because you know what?
We've been let down so many times.
Someone that has given me a little bit of hope.
I was speaking to essentially the person in charge of the Republican Party in Arizona.
He's the head of the Maricopa County Republican Party, which makes up 63% of the population for the whole state.
Wherever Maricopa County goes, the whole state goes.
Well, that man is in it for President Trump, correct?
Craig Berlin, very interesting fellow.
He's an engineer and very smart.
I enjoyed our conversation.
What he did is he, actually, with a unanimous vote, pre-primary, is the first county chair to endorse President Trump for president.
I bet that took some people off.
Oh, it made, especially the John McCain loyalists.
I think, got to remember, the person that controls the county, the border county, you know, the border state of Arizona is John McCain, the old man.
A lot of people forget this part, Lauren.
We were talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
John McCain's daughter had a friend that was almost trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein.
Oh, really?
Yeah, Sidney McCain came out a couple years ago and she admitted that.
And I think there's a lot of bodies that John McCain knows are buried, more than just those he buried in Vietnam and other places when he was betraying people.
But other than this, this man, Craig Burland, he's a very brave man to do this.
And I think that many other county chairs should take his lead and take his lead in the investigation into the cheating.
Because when it comes to this, the reason why, Lauren, I don't want to speak too much for her, but it's one of the reasons you're so black-pilled is because the cheating is so rampant.
Yes, and it's blatant.
And they haven't done anything to fix it, right?
Nope.
Well, let's hear from the Maricopa County Chairman for the GOP, Greg Brella.
Well, I have here with me the chairman of the Maricopa County Republican Party, Craig Berlin.
Welcome to CrossLock News, sir.
Thank you, sir.
There is quite a lot happening out of your county, and right off the bat, you've gotten something done which is wholly unprecedented.
Yeah, last night, and maybe because I wasn't there, we introduced a resolution and passed it Unanimously to support President Trump as the nominee.
Yeah, some very exciting news from Arizona last night.
We had our annual meeting and in that there was a resolution that passed unanimously to support President Trump as our nominee for President of the United States in 2024.
That's before the end of the primary.
That's correct.
So we have a bylaw In the Republican Party in Arizona that says that we're not allowed to support anybody before the primary.
However, the bylaw can be overridden with two-thirds vote.
And so our executive guidance committee, which is made up of 30 members, 20 from each legislative district in the county, plus the 10 executive board makes the 30-member team, voted unanimously To pass the resolution that allows us now to support President Trump before the primary.
That's very, very unique news.
So how did you accomplish this?
That's politics.
We have a few people in the district that were hesitant.
You know, part of the issue is that each legislative district has the same bylaws, and so they're not allowed to support without their members, the PC's precinct committeemen, voting two-thirds to allow them to vote.
That started taking place a few months ago, and I was reluctant to say that we were going to get way over two-thirds vote.
I thought we'd had the two-thirds vote when we went in, but remarkably, it was a unanimous vote.
I think that says a lot for President Trump.
Well, in regard to some of the, I would say, more centrists, and maybe there's not everyone, as fervently right-wing or pro-Trump in the party as we'd hope, why did they make the decision to vote alongside their colleagues?
You know, I think there's a little bit of...
They don't want their body, their peace increment, Realizing that they're not on board.
And so I think there was a little hesitation to not be part of the group.
They wanted to be pragmatic and also not get a single dial.
I know that for your state, especially your county, it makes up about 63% of the voting population.
That's correct.
We're about 63% of Arizona.
Wow, that's incredible.
It's the largest Republican voting county in the United States.
You have a very important position there.
What it's boiling down to is that I believe, and a lot of people are telling me the same thing, is that Maricopa, the way Maricopa goes, Arizona goes.
I believe that the way Arizona goes, the United States will go.
I think it's the tip of the spear for the 2024 election.
Well, in 2020, it appeared that Arizona was going to go for President Trump.
And then, shall we say, some hijinks appeared to have taken place.
I know for a fact that Arizona did go for President Trump.
Know for a fact?
I know for a fact.
Can you detail that?
The easiest way is to tell you a little story.
I've had this question asked for me multiple times, and here's how I respond to that.
I'm having a tough time raising a lot of money for Maricopa County, and so what I'm willing to do is to bet you, and let's just say we'll exchange monies to our favorite charities.
And you give me 10 hours of your day, and I can prove to you with 100% certainty that the 2020 election in Maricopa County was fraudulent.
If I can't prove that to you, then I will write your favorite charity a check for $100,000.
If I can prove it to you after 10 hours, you write Maricopa County Republicans a check for $100,000.
So far, I've got no takers.
No one will take you up on this.
So here's how this all transpires, is that the state Senate, Arizona Senate, gave our group the ballot images for the mail-in ballot envelopes.
Not the ballot.
I misspoke.
The mail-in ballot envelope images, along with a snapshot of the voter rolls.
And so we could do our own signature verification.
And in doing that, But we set a criteria that if we weren't 100% certain that we could set in a court of law and without any exception, this particular signature was fraudulent or wasn't represented accurately by the signature in the voter rolls.
Then we put that into a group.
If we thought that, you know, maybe it could be argued and maybe a signature verification expert, you know, a registered expert might disagree with us, then we put it into another group.
So in that first group, There were 10% of all of the images in Maricopa County were fraudulent.
That's 200,000 ballots.
Now, I don't care where you come from.
Can I tell you who won the election?
Because I don't know what ballots went with what envelopes.
That really doesn't matter, does it?
You either have an honorable, real election that people can believe in, or you don't.
And all I can say is that we didn't.
That's an incredible story because when it comes to the understanding of the steel, Mike Lindell, he has been the punching bag for both the left and the right.
Many people, they've attacked him over his fervency.
I think many people, they know in their guts something's up when it comes to that election.
But where I'm going with this specifically, some people have said the ballot images, and I've heard it all.
They've said, well, maybe the signature was a little bit off.
You verified it.
It's completely different.
Not ballot images, but envelope images.
It's on the envelope.
There's a signature.
And there's other people that say, hey, look, the paper was wrong, and the tabulators were doing this and that.
We're ignoring all of that.
This is just people were bringing in mail-in ballots, bringing them to the post office or bringing them to the voting centers and dropping them off in the little blue box.
Those mail-in ballots, 10% of them at a minimum were fraudulent.
So when you look at all the other ways the steal could have taken place, well, you've seen 2,000 mules, right?
Okay, well, that's how they were getting these fraudulent envelopes into the system.
I mean, I worked at an election in 2022, the primary and the general, and I watched people walk in with a stack of 20 or 30 mail-in ballots and drop them in the inbox right at the voting center.
How is that legal?
It's not, but you want to know what's crazy?
It's illegal to stop them from doing it.
How is that even possible?
That doesn't even make sense.
I assume you know that there's a federal law that says even though you can't prove you're a United States citizen, you're allowed to vote a federal ballot.
How is that possible?
Our Constitution says that's illegal too, isn't it?
Well, it's funny.
It's an irony because the federal government will say they're trying to protect the rights of citizens.
Yet, as we saw, you know, seeing Police State, the movie by Vanessa Souza, so many people's rights have been violated for showing up to protest on January 6, 2021.
Look, the double standard is glaring in regard to our election system.
I speak to young and I speak to old.
Most don't have faith in the election system.
That's tough for you because you're a party chair.
Here's my take on that.
Yeah, we need to protect the voter, do we not?
We shouldn't be discriminating.
If you're a soldier that's stationed overseas, we should still be able to get your ballot back and counted.
I agree with that 100%.
But let me ask you this question.
Or pose the answer this way.
Is that if you have a fraudulent vote that is counted, are you not in disenfranchising somebody that supplied a Proper ballot.
You are.
You're absolutely.
It counters it out.
And, you know, of course, that's why we have an Electoral College, is we have a system that it's not a pure democracy.
Thank God, by the way, you know, depending on who you speak to, they definitely want the 51 percent to be able to control the 49.
But what you're describing, the system of disenfranchisement, It's not ever thought about that way, because it's all about counting as many votes as humanly possible.
And of course, in regard to Arizona, even an attempt to question the validity is seen as an affront to democracy, right?
That's at least the terminology they're using.
Have you been attacked for your outspokenness on this?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
And I've been asked, I said, you're an election denier.
And I said, no, you're absolutely wrong.
Here's where you're on.
I absolutely know there was fraud in the election.
I'm not an election denier.
Well, what are we going to do about 2024?
That's a great question.
I think you may personally know Shelby Bush from We the People, AZ Alliance.
She is our first vice chair of Maricopa County, and I'm the chairman.
And we've become very, very close friends over the last few years.
And we've partnered very closely.
And through a lot of what she's doing, and with Maricopa County being as large as it is, we have an army of nearly 4,000 precinct committee men, which basically think of them as political activists, right?
And we're combining that effort...
To go and create an environment that preempts the fraud.
We're trying to clean up voter rolls.
We are cleaning up voter rolls.
Creating a group for lawfare.
For example, there's a huge effort that went into reviewing the new election procedures manual for Maricopa County.
There's all kinds of bad stuff that got put in it for this 2024.
And that needs to go to court.
It cannot be accepted.
If it does...
It'll make easier a lot of the fraudulent activities.
And those kinds of efforts, along with the database reviews, we know what's changed from the previous month.
We've got six or seven years of history now with the voter data rolls.
We know Statistically, what should happen and what shouldn't.
The new people that move in, we're notifying them.
One of the tricks that's being played right now is that If you move in from Florida to Arizona and you're not really careful, when you go to register your new driver's license, there's a little box that you have to check if you want to be a Republican.
Otherwise, they will automatically make you in Arizona what's called P&D, party not defined.
So if you want to go and vote in the primary, You're out of luck.
That's very, very interesting.
So that helps, essentially, I would say, the people that would want to potentially unseat during the primary.
It definitely helps the Democrats, because they have...
Absolutely.
And then what it also does is it gives you a different ratio, you know, when you start doing analysis of how many registered Republicans there are, and all these people that became PNDs, unbeknownst, that were really Republicans...
All of a sudden, these statistical numbers start changing, and in my opinion, it makes that fraud a little easier for people to swallow because the numbers look a little different.
There's lots of these little subtle things that we're actively doing.
Well, I'm going to be watching Arizona very closely, and I know that for the last several decades, Arizona's been the epicenter of U.S. national politics, mainly actually because of the late Senator John McCain.
Now, being the chairman of the Maricopa Republican Party, does his shadow still cast pretty gravely over your area?
To some degree.
And, you know, it's...
I'll tell you my personal opinion on the parties in the United States, and it's very indicative of Arizona.
And that is that there's really two parties.
There's the America First party, and then there's the Uni party.
And the Uni party is really the folks that are okay with the way things are going, that head to a global environment, and In 2030, you will own nothing and you will be happy.
Those folks.
And the America First people are fighting that.
And there are a few people that are registered Republicans that are part of that uni-party group.
Certainly the Democrats are.
They're very supportive.
A lot of them because they've been brainwashed through the universities and that kind of thing.
All my personal opinion, but that's what I'm seeing as Chairman.
Well, with John McCain, I remember when I did for into Arizona Pulse, I was doing some investigations out there, and I kept running into that either John McCain, at the time he was still alive, that he kind of silently controls a lot of the party out in Arizona, and two, in his stead now, his wife and daughter influence.
Is that still the case?
It is to some degree.
There's certainly...
I would say that there's more of a control of the purse strings of some of the wealthy people in Maricopa County than the populace.
Right now, the populace has really gone America first.
You know, like we were talking earlier, the unanimous support for Trump as president in Maricopa County.
It's very encouraging, actually, because there's some that are very pessimistic about that, because I'm always very optimistic.
I'm all in for the 24th.
Ray says, as a journalist, I will tell the truth, and I will support, you know, as an American citizen, you know, I will support the candidate, I believe, that most aligns with my values.
Right now, that's President Trump.
It has been.
You know, President Trump is larger than life.
To hear that from Maricopa County is encouraging because I think there's other counties in the country that maybe don't want to wait for this primary to be over.
This primary, whatever this primary is, it's kind of a waste of money.
What do you think about it?
Well, now that what we call our body, the Maricopa County body, the group of PCs that elected me, have spoken, they've taken my gloves off now, and I now ask the AZGOP chairman and the AZGOP to follow suit, as well as all the other counties in Arizona.
They're If I remember correctly, there's 15 counties.
Maricopa is obviously the largest one, but I would like to see all 15 counties follow Maricopa and support President Trump, and I think that will send a nationwide message.
And quite honestly, I believe that Just from communications that I've had in support of Trump and some news releases that I've done, I know that this will go national and we'll start seeing other states follow suit.
I hope so.
I hope so, sir.
And I definitely appreciate your courage in doing this.
Before we close out, I do want to hear a little bit more about what you're doing in election integrity, or rather the insurer to stop the steal.
From my understanding, you have a project that you're trying to find some funds to support.
Yes.
We've got a multi-front, and the top level of it's called an election integrity, because I think it all flows back to that.
But we're very close with the border 911 and Tom Holman.
Of course, in Arizona, the border crisis is a huge issue.
Child sex trafficking has now overtaken the drug traffic for dollars.
The cartels are making more money selling children than they are drugs.
We have a huge effort for voter roll cleanup.
We're developing a lawfare group so that we're not fighting in the courts after the election.
We're doing it before the election happens.
As we see problems develop, we're going to be active and...
To do that, we believe that we need $5 million.
And interestingly enough, we've gotten some people's attention.
And one particular donor came up to us and said, hey, how much was it going to take for you guys to guarantee a win in Arizona?
And we gave him a lowball number just to get us started thinking we didn't know where he was coming from.
And he goes, no, no, you don't understand.
I want to know the total number to do it.
Five million dollars.
And he goes, done.
He says, now what would it take for you guys to move your same program that you have in Arizona to the other five swing states?
So we'll see where that goes.
But what I'm seeing is that people are starting to come out and open their pocketbooks and say, yes, now's the time.
I've talked to people that I respect, you know, in the intelligence community or were in the intelligence community.
And, you know, the question that always comes up that I get asked is that, has the ship already sailed too far from shore?
Have we already lost our country?
And I said, I don't know the answer, but I can tell you that there's only one thing that we can do and we can't stop.
A hundred percent.
The next generation, the generation to come, they have no choice.
They're inheriting this country a heck of high water, and this next generation doesn't get a chance to give up.
And I appreciate that you're still fighting very hard.
I know that when it comes to election integrity and investigating the The vote and the election process itself, there's a stigma that has definitely risen over the process.
Some people look at a lot of the initiatives that were carried on after 2020 to have been ineffective or inconclusive.
How is what you're planning to do different?
Yeah, and we fight that.
You know, in the previous months, The question was, is that, look, I know you're talking about it.
We want to know what you're doing about it.
And I don't blame them because there have been a lot of charlatans in the business.
One of the things that shows results and perseverance is that our group has been the investigative lead We've done all of the background research.
We've done a tremendous amount of analysis.
We have the computers.
If you ever saw the video, what it was was a video of MC Tech, which is the main election area in Maricopa County.
of the guy doing signature verification where he was just tapping on the keyboard and as soon as the image came up he'd approve it and as an image came up he'd approve it.
Well we were the ones that captured that video Isolated it, put numbers to it through freedom of information requests, found out and got the records of each person doing significant verification and how fast they were doing it.
Unfortunately, it was proven without any doubt in my mind, That you couldn't, and according to our expert for signature verification, that you couldn't possibly do signature verification that fast.
But the judge just chose to ignore all the evidence.
You know, it's very disheartening.
But, you know, you get up in the morning, God taps you on the shoulder, points you in a certain direction, and you charge off again to keep working because you have no choice.
Amen.
You know, historically, it's very tough to challenge a process for leadership months after the effect.
It's true that in the moment, those that seize power and then take it will hold it.
It's true.
And, you know, I have to say that, in fairness to the judicial system, their only choice in to find for Cary Lake It's to overturn the election.
And that's a very tough thing to do.
Although I think it was the right thing to do, it's a very tough thing to do.
And that's when we sat back and we said, okay, look, our focus has to change.
It has to be on the front side of this.
We need to get into the courts before the election and stop the fraud as we're finding it.
And we have, you know, I'm not going to divulge every single thing that we can because that will just tip the hand to the players to change their course.
But we know Several of the areas that the fraud at least has happened in 20 and 22.
So we're anticipating that it will happen in 24.
And we're going to spot it and hopefully stop it before it gets to the end of the election.
Where can people support this?
Do you have a website up?
Yes.
It's Maricopa County.
GOP.org.
And there's a donate button.
And if, you know, on there, you'll be able to find my email address if somebody wants to send a check.
They can follow up with an email and we can certainly accommodate that as well.
Excellent.
Thank you so much for sharing that with me, sir.
I feel a little bit better, a little more confident about our prospects for 24, especially with people like you in the trenches.
Thank you so much for joining me today.
Thank you so much.
I think I'd trust that man to not only fix my airplane, but build me a home.
He's very smart.
Oh yeah, he was great.
And, you know, Maricopa County seems, the Republican Party seems to be in very good hands.
I'm glad that one of us has taken over.
There's been a lot of hostile takeovers of Republican parties.
Some of my friends in Idaho took over a local GOP campaign.
It's just really good stuff that you're doing.
That's the only thing you can do.
Coeur d'Alene, right?
Yep.
They pretty much took over the GOP. It's great.
Great, great, great stuff happening out there in Maricopa County and Arizona is fighting back.
They're probably going to be the last state standing, but they're a very important state for the 2024 election.
You know what was also great was that the Arizona caucus, I'll call them, the group that came in, Wendy and the other two very, very smart individuals and their spouses, one of our team members got a chance to meet Wendy.
It was one of his idols.
Frankie really loved Wendy.
Yeah, he did.
He got a chance to talk to her briefly.
The funniest thing when you work in media, Lauren, is that you edit and you produce a lot of things for different people that you see on the screen.
But one thing that Frankie said about Wendy, and he said about many of the guests that are good people...
Is that she really was the real deal.
Oh, yeah.
She was the person you hear about and see and read about.
Yep.
And, you know, he really loved getting to meet her and so many others.
And I just want to thank you for joining us today.
But, of course, if you can, keep Frankie's family in prayer.
If you didn't catch the beginning of the program, one of the members of our team is resting with the Lord now.
He passed away last week.
And young man, bright future ahead of him.
You know what?
He's got a bright future right now.
We'll all be hugging and cheering and singing with him on the back of T-Rexes or St.
Bernard's or whatever your animal is.
T-Rex is anti-God propaganda.
Okay, then I guess I'll stick to the great St.
Bernard's.
We'll be riding St.
Bernard's in New Jerusalem with Frankie at our side singing and playing his guitar.
But if you'd like to help and support him, of course be praying for them.
And if you'd like to support the family and their funeral costs, this is the Give, Send, Go that we've set up.
Even more based was his nickname.
You can check that in the link in the description below as well.
If you'd like to donate, we are trying to raise money to get him home to his family in New Jersey.
So as you know, funeral costs are very expensive.
Transport is very expensive.
He was here in the state of Florida.
His mom is in New Jersey.
If you would consider...
Thank you for supporting our fundraiser to get Frankie home.
We greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
We didn't just lose a member of the team.
We lost a great friend, a great brother in Christ.
There's no replacing these kind of people.
If you have these kind of people in your life, cherish them.
Hold them close.
And more than just this, also spend time with them.
And something we're going to do to always remember him is going to be the playing and singing of hymns alongside him.
You actually did, last Christmas, I think you did a round of carols with him.
Yeah, he was way better than I was, but he was great.
Is that true?
I was hoping we were going to get to do it again this year, but...
Well, you know what?
Why don't we play, to close on out, one of the carols.
Okay.
One of the carols from that.
I think you did a good job, by the way.
I think it was really nice.
Yeah, he's better than me.
He was better than me.
He was the best of us.
Yep.
Well, thank you so much for joining us today's Crosstalk.
This is one of our carols.
Please sing along with us.
We'll have so much more to share with us.
And if you want to hear more from him, we'll be playing his carols and his songs in our Bible study in the morning.
But here is Frankie, even more based.
A little tribute to him and his great work.
One, two.
Island night, holy night.
All is calm, all is bright.
Round yon virgin, mother and child.
Holy infant so tender and mild.
Sleep in heavenly peace.
Sleep.
in heavenly peace.
Let's go!
Whoo!
Silent night, holy night Shepherds quake at the sight Glories stream from heaven above Heavenly hosts sing hallelujah Christ the
Savior is born Christ the Savior is born Silent night Son of God,
love pure light Radiant beams from thy holy face The dawn of redeeming grace Jesus, Lord, at thy birth Jesus, Lord, at thy birth.
Let's go.
It's pretty good.
It's aight.
I give that one about a 4 out of 10.
What do you guys think?
Put the rating in the chat.
You should start rating these because it's obviously Frankie's guitar playing.
It's obviously not me because it was just me.
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