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Oct. 29, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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Pentagon Says Goodbye to Gender-Neutral Pronouns!
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is going to do away with wokeness and this pronoun game well stay tuned folks cuz I'm not quite sure how really this is going to go My good friend Jason is here with us today, and we are going to have a discussion today about pronouns in the military and military wokeness.
There was a few people in my circle.
I had to tell.
I told you so.
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Okay, so today folks, we are going to talk about military wokeness.
There was some things in the media, in the news, both on the big BS news networks online about how the Pentagon is talking about doing away with pronouns, specifically in award citations.
And so for those of you who aren't aware, who never served in the military, when you receive an award, there's a little write-up about why you're receiving it.
Some of them are pretty blanket statements.
But usually in there, there are words like himself or herself and how big of a credit you are and how proud of you the military and the country should be.
In the last year or two, they changed that to themselves instead of using himself or herself.
Well, that started this whole snowball effect of using proper pronouns and not assuming gender in the military.
The Pentagon has found that that is disruptive and it is not working.
Weird, right?
So they're going to do away with that, maybe.
So anyway, let's move on.
That's the basis of why we're having this discussion today.
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Yes, hello Jason, how are you sir?
Very good, and yourself?
Very good.
Okay, so Can I use he for you, or should I use they?
I was going to say you took a pretty big leap there using sir, not only on the gender spectrum, but on the overall do-ness and or ability for me to achieve the high moniker of sir.
But certainly listening to you talk, I'm spun up a little bit.
Well, then let's jump on in.
How do you feel about...
Just let it out.
Let us know what you think about military wokeness and this whole pronoun game.
And remember that this is a family show.
I just think the whole thing is absurd on its face.
Every time the military goes further and further down these woke ideological pathways, not to demean anybody that fits into one of these particular boxes that they're creating, but all you're doing is putting people on an island internally anyway.
So you're not helping out the masses by doing these things.
I mean, is truly gender pronouns in military words a huge deal?
No.
It was a big enough deal for them to start to reverse course.
My gut tells me that this is the first thing that's going to fall, and likely a lot of these other ideas are going to begin to fall in the wake.
Well, so here's the thing, man, is I believe, honestly, that most junior enlisted soldiers probably don't really care a whole lot about pronouns. that most junior enlisted soldiers probably don't really care a They probably care now.
So let me clarify.
They probably care now and think it's ridiculous that we got to use they, them, or whatever the hell it is that you have to use.
But the fact of the matter is that the job of the military, the job of the military become having conversations about what gender we are and how we feel about you know what we're what we're called and and how we're viewed because I remember being in basic training and being called all kinds of names
And I'm sure that the men and women that came before me at Fort Sill, Oklahoma for basic training were called a whole lot worse.
And so where and when, I wonder, did we get to this point where this was part of the conversation That really mattered for mission success, right?
Because the military is all about accomplishing the mission, right?
Commander's intent, the big ball of crap rolls downhill, gets bigger as it's going, and who cares, right?
There's a job to do, and you just do it.
Where did we get off track, I wonder, is...
When I see this stuff, that's the first thought I have.
Like, why is this even a thing now?
Right.
I mean, you've already taken a very complicated system that should be simple, and now you've complicated it one further.
And so just living on the gender pronoun thing, we'll just think about as an enlisted member of the military, which you and I both were, right?
Yep.
Should you come up to an officer in passing in an uncovered area with your cap on?
You're greeting said officer with either a pleasant greeting followed by rank or sir or ma'am.
Right.
What is it now?
Do you just call them by their rank?
Which certain officers that I had experience with were not a huge fan of.
They saw that as demeaning that again, you know, you're going to identify me, you know, and it was you will no longer throw the salute and say captain.
It's Sir.
Well, is there a new one?
Is it Shmam?
Is it MERS? I don't know.
Nautilus?
It's ridiculous to have to add these things in to a system that's built on simplicity because of its overall size and use.
It's goofy.
I would like to see, too, where these gender pronouns are actually being used or surfacing.
Are they truly a junior enlisted issue?
Are they a senior enlisted issue?
Is it an officer-driven issue?
Is it a field-grade officer, general officer?
Where's the disproportional percentage of people being affected by being mispronounced in the military?
And truly, what does that have to do with mission effectiveness?
It's mission first, soldiers always, period.
It's pretty easy.
But in the soldiers always, which ones?
And why has it been such a big deal for some that all have to be hit with the idea that they're a themselves rather than a himself or a herself?
I don't think our gender is anything we need to hide from.
Right.
And to add to that, the way that I was raised in the military, and I'm sure you did, I had some pretty shoddy leadership at times.
But I had some pretty awesome leaders.
And I will say, the ones that were the best leaders were the ones that addressed me as piece of shit, asshole, things like that.
And then they get progressively worse.
And some may find that crass and they may find that out of line.
But that's one of those things that is a military culture thing, right?
The soldiers of both genders, of the two genders that exist, that are doing the combat work, I'll say, the soldiers that are in combat, that are engaged in fighting life or death when they're doing their jobs in real life, I would have to guess, and I hope, that they don't care.
They don't care if you want to be they, them, him, her.
They don't care if you want to be a beaver, a squirrel, a gerbil.
It doesn't matter what you want to be.
Can you pick up that weapon?
Can you shoot it straight?
Can you have my back?
And if I get injured or wounded, can you drag me to cover and perform buddy aid until we can get somewhere where the medics can do the real work on me?
And then get back into the fight and finish the mission.
I would hope that those folks aren't even, don't even pay any attention to this.
More than they have to, of course, you know, because you have to navigate all the people who don't do that work.
You know, I made a commitment, Jason, this is kind of off topic.
I made a commitment.
Some time ago to not use monikers like POGUE or REMF or anything like that any longer.
Not because I want to be sensitive to people's feelings, but realizing that the military takes everybody to complete the mission.
So if that's what you were thinking, which knowing you the way that I do, you may have been thinking that.
I've made that commitment.
So anyway, to answer your question, around the block to go across the street, I would imagine that this issue is not junior enlisted.
I would imagine that it's 04 and higher, mostly, I would think.
I think in the junior enlisted ranks or junior officer ranks, the people that are most sensitive to this are the ones who are transgender.
I don't know.
Do you agree?
Well, I think it would have to be.
Who else would it be?
And what's that percentage?
It's got to be minuscule.
I don't think it could be an overwhelming percentage of our military population, is it?
At this point, who really knows?
Just say it's 5%.
That's a small percentage.
In a company of 160, you're talking about eight people?
Right.
Plus or minus for math people out there.
But I mean, it's not a huge percentage of, you know, it's not a huge volume of people.
For these things to be continually discussed and out forward and basically in front of everybody's face, where if you are on the fence about maybe joining the military, you know, these are the things you're hearing about.
I haven't heard about the most advanced weapons system that maybe they're going to roll out and put in soldiers' hands.
In the future, outside of the F-22, that Raptor?
Yeah, the one that just lose one?
Something like that.
How many years ago was that discussed?
You don't hear about the new quote-unquote badass things that the military is going to have.
The things that kind of drive people that, going back to other conversations, of course where the People that serve in the military, the guys and gals that had absolutely no plan, no way forward, and we just had to join the military, because there was nothing else to do.
The world had enough garbage haulers, the world had enough ditch diggers.
Oh gosh, I'm gonna throw in a rucksack and go, right?
We're all idiots in some people's minds.
But you've gone from a place where if those are the idiots that you think are joining, then can you really believe that any of this gender identity stuff is really important to those idiots?
Why are you trying to force it on them?
Like, why is it important for them to have to deal with it or have to go, you know, have that instituted in their day-to-day process?
That's a really good point, actually, man.
I never thought of that.
And that also brings up another point for me.
If you are a person that says you support the military, but yet have a view of soldiers or veterans that it was the last option because we were too stupid to do anything else, Then do you really even support the cause?
And if not, then shut the hell up, get out of the way and get off the tracks because the train's coming through.
And I suppose that people like you and I have to just take the stance that, well, I guess we served and our service, honorable service, was meant for you to be able to have that opinion of me.
100%.
Whatever.
Yeah.
See, that's the problem, right?
Like, we're not offended and we're not pushed off by somebody's disdain for us.
I will not go out and try to do something to elicit a reaction from you to make you feel a certain way.
Why is it that we have to be the ones that are forced and inundated with this stuff?
And ultimately, we're going to react.
We're either going to react by walking out of the military, we're going to walk from, you know, other aspects of our life.
We're just not going to continually expose ourselves to it.
So, now again, maybe that's where some of these recruiting and retention issues are coming from, because I don't believe that, what is that, the DEI, the diversity, inclusion, equity, and...
I don't remember the last one, do you?
No, but yes, I understand what you mean, and so everyone else will.
Right, and it goes through corporate America.
Of course, it's going to come into the military, and is it something that you just discussed to have a discussion, or is it something that you're truly discussing because there's some type of indoctrination, and I'm not insinuating one way or another, but the fact that it's continually in your periphery, You're seeing it, and regardless, it's pushing you in a direction.
So if you're an 18-year-old kid, again, thinking about joining or whatever age you are, thinking about the military, if that's all you ever hear about and you don't hear about anything new or cool that's going on, Why would you want to be a part of that?
If you don't look in the real world, now I'm going to go do it here.
And guess what?
I can't leave.
I just signed up for two years, four years, six years, eight years, three years.
I'm in on a kick.
I don't get to leave.
If I go to Lowe's and get a job, and I don't like the politics or the ideology that's going on in their corporate climate, I'll leave tomorrow.
The military isn't like that.
You're in for a commitment.
So if you're not an enticing employer as the military, people aren't coming because they don't want to deal with that.
It should be a very small percentage of the conversation, and yet it seems to be a majority of the conversation.
Yes.
And because of that, I fear that...
The young men and women who would be amazing soldiers and grow to be amazing military leaders are not going to be in the military, which is something that I touch on a lot, is the future of this country and what the recruiting and retention of I'm losing my train of thought for words because I'm frustrated with this whole thing.
But the whole point of having recruiters and people that specialize in retention is to keep good people in.
But if we don't ever have good people to join in the first place...
Well, we're screwed.
And, you know, Jason, you are a lot older than I am.
I'm 41 years old.
At some point, we're going to be wearing diapers, drinking insure, and just waiting for the next woke person to take care of us and change our pants.
I would prefer that it not be that way.
But the path we're going down, and furthermore, maybe speak in Chinese also.
Alright, so now you're just all over the place, but number one, your situation that I'm not wearing diapers now, I take as a compliment.
Well, I guess I don't know.
We're not that close, right?
You may be wearing diapers.
But the point I'm trying to make is that this is a super important thing as it pertains to recruiting.
Because the men and women who want to be trigger pullers, who want to jump out of planes, who want to repel out of helicopters, who want to drive tanks, and who want to do...
The jobs that are dirty and dangerous and nasty and life-changing and sometimes not in a good way are not going to be doing that because they see what's happening here.
And so do you think that maybe...
That the Pentagon taking themselves out of award citations versus himself or herself is just a precursor because they kind of see the writing on the wall as it pertains to things like recruiting and retention.
And they're just not saying that yet?
Is that possible?
Well, I think it has to be likely that somebody's seeing something and they're understanding that there are repercussions for actions, intended or unintended, you know, because I still don't, I wouldn't say just because of all these things, like they're driving people away.
There's a combination of forces at play today, just like you were talking about.
If it's If it's the potential stress for a conflict coming up very quickly, certainly that's going to take some really good people out of the pool that may have joined because maybe they wanted to serve in the reserve or in the reserve component somewhere while they're going to school, knowing that they would commit their military service after or during that hybrid ROTC thing.
But maybe because of all of these factors, They're just not gonna, they're not gonna sign up.
And you're gonna lose a lot of people when you have all of these other things happening.
And one of them that I didn't share with you that I found that was at military.com.
And you're gonna, I want you to tell me that God-honest truth, if you've ever heard of this, did you hear that the Army was likely looking at, or they were being forced by legislators to create an, not the APFT, but the ACFT as a gender-neutral standard?
Or with a gender-neutral standard?
The PT test?
Correct.
Well...
I did not know that, but I'll tell you this, it should be gender neutral.
Here's the thing, and we had this talk, now we're getting back into like 2009, right?
When they lifted the ban on women in combat MOSs, right?
So I remember an evening after dinner, chow, when the battalion commander came into the infantry battalion and sat as many soldiers down that were there and asked us, they're going to start allowing women in the infantry.
Does anybody have a problem with that?
And of course a bunch of hands went up.
And for obvious reasons, right?
Like, women aren't strong enough, they can't shoot, blah, blah, blah.
Whatever.
I don't believe that any of that is true.
In fact, one of my extra duties for four or five years was to help teach marksmanship in the battalion.
And I'll tell you that women were probably the easiest to teach and the most successful from zero...
Ability and zero ever doing it before to shooting expert in the matter of a weekend.
So they take correction.
Well, anyway, my stance was if they can do the job, Then whatever.
I don't care who is next to me fighting the fight as long as I know that they're going to do the job, just like I would.
They're looking out for me just like I'm looking out for them.
And so when I raised my hand to make a comment, my comment was this.
I said, verbatim, sir, I could give two shits less if the person next to me has big breasts or big pecs.
I don't care.
What I want to know is, can that person shoot, move, and communicate like it's expected of us to do?
And as I said, I don't know, 10 minutes ago, If I get wounded, can they drag my big ass to cover and provide buddy aid to me so that I can get back in the fight, or at least not die on the battlefield?
If the answer to that is yes, then by all means, let the ladies in.
But I think that there was a lot of logistical things that need to be worked out, right?
Like, you're not going to let the women sleep in the men's barracks and latrines and showers and, you know, like time in the field.
From what I, I don't know this because I was never the leader of female soldiers, but I don't think that you can keep females in the field as long as you can keep men because of feminine hygiene issues or whatever.
But The logistics weren't on me or any of us to work out.
So if they can do the job, then sure, let them in the infantry.
So if they want to be in the infantry and they can do the job, then they should have the same standard on the PT test, right?
Okay, but here's my thought when I saw this.
Which way are you going to go with the test?
The male test has always been, there's clearly more strength, and I get, with the new test, there are a multitude of differing things, right?
So there's, you know, carrying water jugs, throwing a 40-pound ball, I don't know, there's just a bunch of stuff, right?
Dragging a 90-pound sled.
Are you going to drop the standards to a point where you're in, you know, high-scoring females and low-scoring males, which will then send males over the top, you know, then those who are admirable performers are going to have ridiculous test scores, or are you going to raise the standards so high that very few females get in?
No, I don't think you change the standard at all.
The women have to meet what the men's standard is because of the severity of the work.
Regardless, I'll even take, I mean, I take combat MOS out.
I really don't care.
If you're in, you wear the uniform, it doesn't matter to me.
I don't, to me, when, you know, they're talking about bringing females into the combat arms, that's all fine and dandy.
But there are completely, there are two different sets of standards.
Yes, but I say that now, bro, because the PT test is scored based on MOS. What?!
Yeah, so combat MOS's have a higher standard than like admin people or cooks or mechanics.
Wow.
There are so many things I don't understand anymore.
Yeah, so there is no, like the events are the same for everybody, but the standards are different depending on your MOS and gender.
If that makes sense.
How did all this stuff get so complicated?
It's because we're woke, bro.
That's terrible.
We woke up.
No, we need to go from woke to awake.
This is bullshit.
I don't care if you're an admin guy or gal or an infantry guy or gal.
It doesn't matter to me.
You still have on the uniform.
At the end of the day, to quote a terrible movie, if Broken Arrow occurs, I'm glad the admin only has to do a sit-up and run the mile in the amount of time that it takes to make four cups of coffee.
If you're in the field of play, everybody's got the same rules.
I can't believe that you're telling me this, that this is something I never thought I'd hear.
Yeah, man.
It's...
And even that was a thing, right?
So when the PT test rolled out, and I don't know if it was a thing in the media, but it was a thing amongst the unit that I belonged to.
And I never had to take it.
We didn't take it, but it was coming out, and the events were out, and there were active duty units testing it or whatever else.
And so the thing was that, well, it's not fair.
We shouldn't have to do more than they have to do.
Well, but hold on.
When shit hits the fan and we get sent downrange, we're doing more than they're doing anyway.
So, yes, we should have to do more than they, you know, and I was always one that struggled with PT, believe it or not.
But I appreciate that there is a more stringent standard for the people that we are sending into harm's way to defend our home.
But anyway, it got all convoluted and complicated because there's a lot of opinions.
And I believe that it became, if you ask me, my opinion is that it became that way to give people who may not be able to meet the old standard that was general across the board...
Well, here, now you can...
If you want to come in and be an HR specialist, you don't have to be as physically...
You don't have to meet as high of a standard.
So you can still join.
You can take advantage of the benefits and proudly serve your country.
It's not...
Then why doesn't the military just break into a military and then have a bureaucratic support role?
Like a war department.
I don't even know what the hell to call it because this is honestly the first time I've ever heard of something like this.
Maybe it's because they don't watch or understand a lot of what's going on.
But that makes no sense to me.
I hear what you're saying.
You can keep these people and they're in an HR role and maybe they're really good at it and they can't pass a PT test.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's not the military.
The military is designed.
We're all equal.
We're all the same.
We all have general guidelines that we all meet.
We all wear the same uniform.
We all do all the same things.
Quite frankly, if you have a particular pay grade and a particular job, depending upon how you sign your contract, you still get the same paycheck.
Yep.
Why aren't people...
That is...
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Take a minute.
Take a minute.
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Absorb that, brother.
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Hey folks, welcome back here to the next segment of the show.
Jason, before we ended the last segment, I asked you to just take a minute and marinate on the issue we talked about with the new Army physical training test.
Are you good?
I'm having a hard time.
I understand where we started with pronouns in the military and somehow battling in between female and male integration, which I still think is a great thing, but with all things being equal, when did this get so complicated?
Well, let's see.
It's 2023, probably about five years ago.
Yeah, I can't.
Five to eight years ago.
I can't.
I just...
I don't know.
This one, I'm struggling again, which I normally am, because it's hard with a very low IQ. But trying to understand the staggering number of changes in the military that I just...
I don't see how they make the military a more professional and a more...
It's not a more well-trained machine.
These things are just these over-complicated, crappy nuances that are just...
They're hard to understand.
Keeping it simple is the easiest thing to do.
And when you've got something as important as a military, your military needs to be designed to do one thing.
And the fact that we have all of these subdivisions now in our military shocks me.
I wonder, is there going to be a change in military pay based upon your MOS? Probably not, no.
Weird, why is there a change in standards?
I mean, should realistically, so a person that has Maybe lesser to fulfill should the military be called to action, right?
Like an infantry grunt.
Just a spec 4 infantry guy or gal.
Shit hits the fan.
It's time to roll out.
Now, that E4, granted they're going to get some combat pay, some imminent danger pay, and maybe some hostile fire pay.
Whatever it is.
Whatever the Congress designates to give them their attaboy paycheck.
Does that person deserve more money or the same money as somebody that sits in a desk?
Well, I feel like that's a rhetorical question.
I believe that they probably deserve to be paid more.
Much like professional sports, right?
And I understand that military and professional sports couldn't be any further apart.
But...
The ones who perform more, who perform better, who do more work on the field of play or the court or whatever, the pitch or whatever you want to call it, generally get the bigger contracts.
But I don't believe...
The only difference in pay that I've ever noticed in the military is the difference in re-enlistment bonuses.
Right.
Other than that, no.
It's typically based upon need, right?
Right.
Not performance.
Yeah, I didn't see a lot of big infantry bonuses.
No.
You saw certain engineer bonuses.
Certainly saw those pilots that got into drones or those kids that had those amazing abilities to operate drones because of their ability to play video games.
Those were huge bonuses.
Operators get bonuses.
I mean, and I guess those are things to help cross-level the paycheck.
You know, maybe that's a way to look at it.
But it just seems to me that there's no question why you have a dwindling force.
This is a lot of foolishness.
And so just to touch on it, I believe here's my theory about military pay.
And bonuses.
Not pay as much, but bonuses.
Is that the bonuses that are given out, because recently I saw, and I think if I remember right, the number was like $80,000 or $90,000 possibly you could receive for enlistment or re-enlistment bonus for like IT careers.
Okay.
Right?
So like networking and cybersecurity and stuff like that, which is important because But I believe that they changed the bonuses to match what those folks might be making on the civilian side of things, maybe to entice people to come over and join.
Yeah, probably in comparison to what they can really get in the real world.
I mean, a lot of those IT guys or gals that are getting those dollars.
And by the way, when I say guys, I say that it's a gender fluid term for me.
I'm just going to quit catching myself and saying that guys does not have an orientation.
But those people can make $150,000, $200,000.
So if you're coming back, I don't care whatever you're, you know.
An E6, E7, or a company-grade officer with a $90,000 bonus over three years, you're not keeping up with the real world.
No way.
Not at all.
Not even close.
No.
But see, all of this is important to the conversation because...
It leads back to something that's important, I believe that's important, and that is our military and our country's global image around the world, right?
I mean, if two hunyucks like Jason and Richard can look at something like a new physical training test standards and dissect it just a little bit and figure out that it's a little effed up, So can everybody else in the world.
And all of the other countries, our enemies and our allies are all looking at this stuff, not to mention the wokeness and the transgender thing and just all of this crap, all the racial tension and all that stuff.
Everybody's watching this.
And I think that if anybody really starts to dig a little bit, you can find video footage and things in print on the internet or otherwise of the common person in other places in the world talking about how weak people The United States of America has become.
And that if anybody really wanted to attack this place, it probably isn't that hard.
And I believe, Jason, that one of the reasons that we may not be having paragliders falling into our front yards to be shot down like geese on goose hunting Sunday morning is because...
There are an overwhelming amount of Americans that have a lot of guns.
And that whole new idea that's new in the last year or two of the F around and find out graph is pretty real for a lot of people, especially now.
And I'll tell you what, if I see some dude with a box fan from the Walmart blowout sale and some kite from Hobby Lobby falling into my yard, he's going to have a really rough landing.
So, I mean, I don't know, man.
I think that all of this comes together in one way or another, and it's alarming to me because nobody else is talking about it.
recognize it because nobody talks about it.
It's got to be, right?
You would, you'd like to think that everybody else in our communities is kind of thinking the same thing.
Like this is what we're portraying to the rest of the world.
Right.
Well, I, and there's no, I don't, I don't think There's probably a perception of change or instability slash weakness that could be seen through some of these things.
I don't know.
I just don't think woke ideology is the main driver.
Real similar to last week, talking about the number two reason that we got into the war in Afghanistan was to create business and educational opportunities for women.
I hope that we did that.
I think it's a great thing, but it certainly wasn't the main driver, nor do I feel like this woke ideology should be the main driver or all these divisive things that we keep adding to our military to take away from the cohesion of the military.
If everybody's held to the same standard, we're all shitbags equally.
If things start to have inequity, and I know equity is a big buzzword for a lot of those woke ideologues.
Inequity, I think, is the thing that we really need to be paying attention to, where you start to, you know, lessen standards for certain people, maintain standards for others, and then treat them the same way, compensate, and Basically have a level playing field that they can only, you know, that they can pinnacally reach and come across.
But, you know, I don't understand what's going on.
Is it truly the woke ideology?
Is that the thing that creates this division, that creates all of this nonsense?
Is that a design plan?
Is it an inadvertent action of somebody trying to do the right thing?
You know, just wanting to include everybody.
But if you wanted to include everybody, then everything would stay the same.
You know, the whole idea of inclusion or equity or whatever one of those phrases it is, is that everybody's treated the exact same.
Well, why is everything then being treated differently under the guides of equity?
Well, I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what the answer is.
But I do know one thing that you touched on it briefly a couple minutes ago is that we're all, would you say, we're all equally shitbags or something like that?
The reason that our military in the past has been so powerful and so elite is, in my opinion, is because...
We have operated under the idea for many, many years, like you said, that we are all equally as worthless.
And the simplicity of that idea just makes it work, right?
If we all know that we're on the same plane, and you have a very finite, specific List of things that you have to do, but you have to do them well.
In fact, in many cases, for many people, you have to do them and be the best in the world at it, or you're going to die, or you're going to lose.
We are going to lose.
And now our society, our culture in this country is shifting into all this woke crap, this critical race theory, and this gender shit, and all this divisiveness.
We're just so dang divided.
And it's all leaking into the military because all these folks are now becoming of age that have bought into this And there's no other way to get them to come because this is what they're touting out in public after school or in school and at their jobs and in colleges.
And this is what they're being taught.
And so, like you and I discussed offline before we started today, I think that part of this battle, part of this conversation needs to be taken to our education system.
In fact, if somebody was ballsy enough to make me president for a month or give me any kind of power in this country for a month, everybody in the Department of Education would lose their jobs.
Everybody.
And we would just start over.
In fact, I would find the oldest...
Angriest old teachers with the biggest moles on their face that look like witches and put them in leadership roles.
Not because I want them to be mean to kids, but if we take a look, Jason, at the way that this country progressed from the 20s to now and how tough we were.
We have people, very few of them, but we still have people roaming around that made it through the Depression.
They're very old now.
But they're old, salty dogs.
They're 90-something years old, up on their roofs, replacing shingles.
But yeah, we have 20-year-old kids that don't go to work because my allergies are acting up.
Who gives a shit?
Go to work.
Go to school.
Learn something.
I think where you're on with the Department of Education is likely the precipice.
It's, you know, how many times did you see things overseas where you were like, what are these people thinking?
You know, why did this guy just jump out in front of this Abrams and throw an RPG at it?
There's no way an educated person, if you know what an Abrams A1A2 is, you wouldn't think that that RPG could do it.
So, was it his fault?
No.
He was taught.
I could only assume that he was taught that this is an effective thing to use at this point in time against this specific target.
Well, after the first time, it's now on you because you've been proven incorrect and you've got to start rethinking your education and the education that our kids are receiving that we're worrying about, the things that were the frivolous stuff that we're worrying about.
Is clouding our judgment when it comes to reality and the simplicity of life.
God did not put us here to live a complicated life.
A lot of things can be made a lot simpler.
I agree.
I agree a thousand percent.
But I wonder, man, where did all of this start?
You will never be able to convince me.
That all of this started because a bunch of people hated Donald Trump.
You'll never be able to convince me that this started because George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl and it got blamed on some white cop who was trying to arrest him and was a little too tough and put too much weight on his neck or whatever narrative it is you want.
The death of George Floyd, Donald Trump being president, Those are the two things in our recent history...
That have really like blown everybody up and divided us.
But you'll never get me to believe that that and COVID, of course, you'll never get me to believe that that is what is responsible for all of this.
This is all being taught some way, somehow, by, unfortunately, by people who are a lot smarter than I am.
Because if I had it figured out, of course, we would have called it out a long time ago.
But it makes me wonder where we would be as a country if the shitheads who are perpetuating all of this crap would have put all that effort into making our country a better place.
Instead of tearing down statues and rioting and carrying on like a bunch of animals.
It's ridiculous.
Where did we go wrong?
I don't expect you to have the answer, Jason, but that's my thought process.
And so when we talk about pronouns in the military and wokeness in the military, It brings me right back to the only answer that makes sense to me that I can think of is that it's coming from the people on our streets that are joining the services and demanding.
I demand to be seen as a woman with a wiener.
And everything that goes along with it.
And if you're going to fight me, I'm going to be louder and I'm going to cause problems and I'm going to do all this.
And I would like to also hope and believe that those folks are not the majority.
Right?
Like the majority of the people in our country are probably like, what the hell is really going on here?
We're going to have to bleep that.
But I would say, you know, Those people trying to get into the military that are squawking about that, if that is their issue, there's no way that that's the reason that things have changed, right?
That has to come from above.
That has to come years of this piece.
And I challenge you to think, one president behind.
Where did divisiveness truly come from?
Has there ever been a president that said they weren't proud of America?
I can't remember.
I feel like one of them had mentioned it.
That America was this cultivation of racism.
We were born in racism and that's how the Americas were founded and that was the defining thing that made America, America was slavery.
There was a person in that chain that spoke very Articulately and had those particular opinions and spoke to a very large audience of Americans who maybe began to believe that.
And then again, the perpetuation has continued in the conversations.
These people have gone through the education systems.
They are now the people that are starting to run and do things.
They're certainly those with a voice that are being heard.
And I think there might be a perpetuation of something that was maybe a non-existent issue even 15 years ago.
That now these things are...
I don't think transgenders just happen today.
Right?
Transgenders have...
There are people that have had gender dysphoria for a long time.
The fact that we're seeing it thrown around as often as we are, I don't think the percentages have changed.
Our social construct...
Does not change that greatly, depending upon deformities.
And I'm not saying deformities in a negative way, but you're going to have a certain amount of, you know, a certain percentage of people that will become homosexual.
You're going to have a certain amount of people who are going to become this.
You're going to have a certain amount that become that.
But there was certainly a shift or a change, not only to accept them, but to almost create a situation in which they're being injected to either cause some type of reaction or for another reason.
I cannot figure that one out.
Yeah, man.
It's a huge mystery.
And you know what, bro?
If you or I had it figured out, we wouldn't be sitting where we're sitting.
That's for sure.
But you mentioned one of our past, the presidents, you wouldn't be talking about the one who's married to the guy with the biggest wiener ever to grace D.C., Michelle Obama, would you?
She's got the biggest wiener ever to grace the White House on that woman right there.
And so maybe that's why all of this is coming out.
It's been said, you know, put on your tinfoil hat for five seconds here.
It's been said that Barack Obama and Big Mike are the ones that are the puppeteers of all this crap going on in high levels of government now.
Who knows if that's true?
It wouldn't surprise me.
But anyway, I digress.
We got like two minutes left, Jason, so I want to give you one or one and a half of those to just kind of close out your thoughts on this episode.
I understand.
I see that you're a little bit red, so I think you're frustrated.
But close us out strong.
Well, it's not going to be strong, but it's...
I don't know.
You got me on this whole MOS-specific APFT thing.
Just when I thought things could get more odd, here we are.
I wish, in this country going forward, that we take some time to reflect on the things that are going on.
That we realize that this division is being created somewhere.
I don't know where.
I don't know how.
And that all of us would start to look with our collective common sense and start to look at where the real reality is and trust our eyes and quit relying on our ears.
These things are happening, weird things, odd things, good things, but we tend to overlook the good, hyper-focus on the bad.
And, you know, as veterans, I mean, you and I are as salty as they come.
Never thought I'd be like this, but here I sit.
Maybe even two, just you and I need to maybe look at some more of the positive things and constantly focusing on the negative because this is as high as my blood pressure has been in a long time.
It's because I don't understand it.
It's because I can't understand why we have to make things so special.
Why everything has to be catering to everybody.
Why can't we have things normal again?
Well, the powers that be don't want them to be normal because this kind of upheaval and this kind of divisiveness is what keeps them in power.
I think that part of their play is to create a climate, if you will, That keeps people dependent on them, not only with benefits and money and healthcare and that type of thing, but also with information and feelings.
And if they can keep you pissed off at the people that aren't Aren't recognizing that, you know, you don't see yourself as a man, but you see yourself as a woman and keep that conflict, then you're always dependent on that for your own happiness.
At some point in this country, we as Americans have lost the ability to find our own happiness in the things that we enjoy, I think.
Like family, like hobbies, things of that nature.
Even if it was like, why don't everybody get out and share a joint or something, if that'll bring people together.
Who knows what it is?
Marijuana's becoming legal everywhere around the country.
Why don't we use that to bring people back together?
Maybe that'll work.
Who knows?
But if we stay divided, it gives them the power that they seek.
And they're going to keep pushing.
And unfortunately, I think, well I don't think, but my opinion is that this whole transgender thing and this pronouns and wokeness is just the start.
But anyway, we could probably go on for another two hours.
But we've got to end the show.
I think we're already over time for the day.
But folks, the last thing I want to say is just have the conversations.
Don't be closed off.
And, you know, it's my show, so I'll say it.
Start at the school.
Start at school and at home.
If your kids are being taught some bullshit with litter boxes in the bathrooms and safe spaces, no.
Screw that.
I suppose that's just me.
If I had small kids right now, they would not go to public school.
Not at all.
I'd homeschool them if I couldn't afford private school before.
I'd send them to a public school.
Anyway, that's all the time we have.
I digress.
That's all the time we have for today.
Please take care of yourselves.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll see you next week.
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