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Oct. 24, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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CrossTalk: Orthodox Christian Church BOMBED! We Break Down The Facts
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Music Let me tell you why you are here.
You're here because you suspect something that you cannot explain.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Who controls this country?
Do you want to know who it is?
They are everywhere, all around us, even now in this room.
You can see them when you look out your window.
And especially when you turn on your television, it is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
What truth?
That you are a slave, Lauren.
Cattle for the people that do not even know that you exist.
A prison for your mind.
Unfortunately, no one can just be told who they are.
You have to see it for yourself.
This is your last chance.
You take the blue pill and you wake up and believe what you want.
You take the red pill and you'll be among those who control your nation.
Remember, all I'm offering is the truth. - Ah, my head.
Where am I? Am I in Israel?
Where's my wallet?
Welcome to CrossFak News.
I'm Ben Ritzal and this is the wonderful Lauren Witzke.
I wish we were joining you in better times.
You know, we are still pretty level-headed.
We didn't change.
The world has gotten very bloodthirsty, though.
Yes, it has.
The world does seem to have changed overnight.
People that we follow, people we talk to, overnight became okay with, you know, the genocide of an entire people.
Yes.
And you know, there's a lot of talk about Old Testament things that happened in like Jose and all these old biblical wars and battles where God told them to go in and wipe everybody out.
All of that changed when Christ died on the cross.
As soon as he died on that cross, all bloodshed for all sin was paid.
The price was paid.
And his words to us, Christ's words to us, like his words to us were, love one another as I have loved you.
You know, turn the other cheek.
Jesus had a completely different perspective.
And actually, the Jews back then were really pissed off about that because they wanted a God that was going to come in And a Messiah was going to come in and defeat the Romans and be a political leader.
And he wasn't.
He came with grace.
He came humbly.
And, you know, he healed the sick.
And he told us to love one another.
Now, I'm not saying that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
It absolutely does.
They do have a right to figure out a strategy to get their hostages back.
There's a lot of strategy that didn't happen because they reacted in rage and bloodthirst.
And we're seeing that today now to the point where it's escalated.
I mean, we could be facing World War III any day now.
And it happened so quickly because of that knee-jerk reaction, which we proved a couple weeks ago was a planned plot by Netanyahu.
You know, they were told to stand down.
They were let in.
There's no way they crossed over that iron gate.
And all those defense mechanisms without being detected, especially for like seven hours.
It didn't happen.
But, you know, there is a difference between the Old Testament and the New Testament.
Because when Christ came, it changed everything.
Well, it's a lot.
It's very smart, the way you've addressed it.
I know that we're both experiencing like family members, not thinking the same way.
We're experiencing friends who, they have such a very zealous position on this, it's becoming very hard to kind of get to terms with them on it.
I'd say the first thing is this notion that Israel has a right to defend themselves.
That's a talking point.
Of course, everyone has a right to self-defense, but that's not what we're discussing here.
We're not even discussing self-defense.
You're trying to get the American people to be okay with carpet bombing schools, housing districts, hospitals, churches.
One of the oldest churches in the Middle East, the Greek Orthodox Church of St.
Porphyrios.
Now, initially people had thought this had been bombed.
I think we'd mentioned there was a false report of a bombing about a week or so ago.
We've now got confirmation from the IDF that, yes, one of the churches that was constructed in 425 A.D., It was one of the auxiliary buildings, but part of the church nonetheless.
It was being used as a shelter, as churches often are during war, Lauren.
There used to be a rule among gentleman nations, among civilized nations that...
You would allow sanctuary in churches.
You wouldn't target churches.
Churches could be used as hospitals.
They could be used as a place where people, regardless of what's happened, whether they be terrorists or whether it be a child, and in this case, a lot of children, a lot of families were using this as a shelter, that they would get to speak to a priest, get to be among Christians and find salvation, not find death from bombing.
Right.
And, you know, Congressman Justin Amash, he was an Orthodox Christian, and he lost a couple family members.
They just pulled out a baby relative of his.
And, you know, there was no reason for that.
You know, you don't go after a church.
Hamas wasn't organizing there.
They weren't operating out of there.
And there was no reason for that kind of death.
It was, you know, and there was a lot of misinformation that came out.
Apparently IDF has like a social media team.
The social media team, their entire job is to go out and debunk.
So I remember when I posted about the church, I was getting comments underneath.
They didn't hit the church.
They didn't hit the church.
Oh, you're making this up.
Well, it turns out they didn't hit the sanctuary, but they hit the church where the hostages were hiding, where the people were hiding.
In safety, trying to seek safety, that is where they hit, and that is where they killed all those people.
They weren't in the sanctuary.
You know, we do a lot here to try to help people work through these kind of issues and try to understand it better.
If part of a synagogue were hit with a bomb, you'd say the Jews got attacked.
Yes, a synagogue got attacked.
The synagogue got attacked.
Same as the White House.
A part of the White House building got attacked.
Say the president's under attack.
It was just the left wing.
It's a talking point.
And it's been tough, Lauren, because some people refuse to even connect on that level.
It's definitely a lot of propaganda that we're being shown.
The hospital, the church in this case, a lot of these are being considered strategic targets by the IDF. The IDF, I believe, Lauren, is targeting these because they are deathly afraid to go into Gaza.
What do you mean?
The truth is, the IDF has no plan for a land invasion.
How could they?
325,000 soldiers to clear out 2.3 million and you've closed the other end of it?
It means you're either going to have to kill all 2.3 million people or you're going to have to have a plan to put them in camps.
They're already in a camp.
They're not leaving.
The IDF has no plan other than to use munitions and fear.
The problem they face right now is if they go the direction of killing the Palestinians, let's just look at this as a chessboard, every Arabic country in the region is going to turn on them.
And has already, by the way.
There's already a loose coalition that's formed.
And I sit here as someone who's, you know, I like to think of myself as someone who thinks things through.
If a president or a general were to come to us, we'd probably be able to give them pretty good advice.
Not just because we think things through, but because we're Christians.
We lead with compassion and love.
Israel's, you know, their goal is to secure the Gaza Strip, make sure there isn't a follow-on attack like they experienced.
One, use the resources we've already given you to build actual defenses.
They have it.
Right?
You already have them, but you didn't use them.
Like, you think, well, the money.
We spent hundreds of billions of dollars.
And they didn't have basic guards at their posts.
They didn't use any of the technology.
What were they using the money for?
That was all by design, Edward.
That was all by design.
You know, Hamas would have never seized power over the Gaza Strip had Israel not intentionally helped them do it.
So there was a WikiLeaks email that revealed that the Israeli Defense Department was literally saying, hey, we want Hamas to seize power because then we have the ability to treat it as a hostile state.
None of this was a coincidence.
This is all by design.
It's been brewing for decades.
Yasser Arafat, I think, was a leader that could have led the world to a peace treaty in this region.
He was the leader of the Palestinian Authority.
He was part of a new generation of thinking when it came to the conflict.
They were no longer trying to reconquer Jerusalem.
They just wanted a peace.
They wanted a peace to live with the Jews and the land.
They wanted a two-state solution.
A two-state solution where they get to have authority in both West Bank and Gaza.
How is Netanyahu going to bomb them all if they're trying to live in peace, Ed?
Of course, when it came to Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu has always relied on factions of the Israeli society.
And it's not about left and right wing, by the way, because I try to explain this to others who question this.
There isn't a single ubiquitous Jewish mind on this.
Actually, interestingly enough, the left wing Jews in Israel right now, they find the treatment of the Palestinians to be abhorrent.
And it's one of the stories that isn't being talked about.
It's the brewing civil war in Israel.
Oh, yeah.
I heard that.
The right wing.
80% of the people polling just came out, considered Netanyahu responsible for the attack and won and removed.
80% of the Israelites.
That's why they pushed through the bill that would punish people who speak in a way which would harm morale.
Because you can't have polls like this come out and the rest of the world saying, well, who's really in charge of this?
Right now, you know, publicly, Benjamin Netanyahu is the prime minister and he has certain powers because of what the emergency coalition has given him.
Lauren, he's not really in charge.
And that's why I go back to the idea it doesn't really have a plan.
Right now, they are acting upon vengeance.
Agencies and mechanisms, as you mentioned, the online digital warriors, the propaganda force that is going into your comments section, other people's comments section, and they don't care.
They're not seeking out the truth.
They're just trying to position Israel in any way they can to make it look better.
But the truth is that around the world, whether you are a Palestinian, whether you're just a businessman, I was listening to a Twitter space today from Elon Musk.
He's not necessarily a very big fan of Israel right now either.
Because how can you support a nation that is willing to drive the entire world to war?
That is, angry because of the loss of life, but then taking out their anger on the most vulnerable in society.
I can't follow them there.
Like, I'm sitting here as someone, I have programming from the past, you know, I'm a soldier, and I remember when I first became a Christian, they were always telling me, oh, you entered Israel as the chosen people.
You know, I had a similar church that you went to.
Oh, no, I was a huge Zionist, too.
Yeah, I was a huge Zionist, too.
I'm looking at this as like, okay, if you really want to survive, you don't want to be targeted, you want to not be the brunt of the hatred of the world.
If you really want to have a state, you don't want a nation.
By the way, most Jews don't live in Israel.
There's so many things in propaganda in this.
Most Jews don't want to live in that state.
That's first.
In the world, the diaspora, they don't want to live there for many reasons.
It's in the Middle East.
It's constantly a threat.
They don't like the zealot leaders.
And I'll go back to Netanyahu's coalition.
He's always leaned on these ultra-zealot right-wing religious Jews, settlers.
And really where this issue first started, Lauren, Is that people who come from these ultra zealot kind of factions in Israel, the Jews that believe they have like a supremacist right to the land, they've been going in and killing, destroying, burning houses and land belonging to Palestinians.
So I look at it.
Why are the Palestinians so angry?
They've been treated like dogs.
And there is no hope for them.
I was listening today to some of the congregants of this church.
These are my brothers and sisters in Christ.
It doesn't matter.
It transcends nationality.
It transcends borders.
They are my brothers and sisters in Christ who I will serve in the kingdom of God with, flying around on eagles and with angels.
New Jerusalem is going to be epic.
We're going to be with them.
But they have let their opinion known, and what it is is they're willing to die where they were baptized.
They're not leaving.
Where would they go?
I've looked at this two different ways.
Okay, one state, two state, no state solution.
Lauren, no one's moving these people.
And the IDF knows that.
So when the IDF targets this hospital and targets this church, what they're doing is they are trying to break the spirit.
The Palestinians have been raised that this is their last stand.
And if we think of it like that, Would we leave our homeland?
No.
Would we give up our home, our property, our building, our business?
Right.
Yeah.
No, we're not going to give it up.
So what do you do?
Well, the first thing probably in a situation like if you're a third party, because America is not really a third party in the sense that we're actually the, we are the guarantor.
We've given the weapons and we've also been at all the negotiations, whether it be Oslo or going back into the 48 agreement.
You know, there's been Zionists in this country that have found their way to the very top.
They've found their way into presidential administrations.
And right now, my goodness, we got Antony Blinken.
Over there, opening his negotiations with Benjamin Netanyahu, saying, don't worry, I'm a Jew.
I'm coming not as an American, but as a Jew.
It's funny, I wanted to share a funny conversation I had with my friend from Lebanon.
He runs a little convenience store around here.
So I came in to the store, I was getting an energy drink or something, and I saw he was playing some, I don't know, I thought it was Muslim music on the And I was like, oh, I was like, where are you from?
And he was from Lebanon.
And I was like, he was like, but I'm a Christian.
He's like, I came here, I'm a Christian.
And I was like, well, what is your opinion on the war?
I was like, I'd like to know, like, what your take is.
He has family and friends over there.
And he said, oh, Hamas, they were stupid to do that.
They should have never done that.
But now everybody is going to die.
And he was like, you know, there's good people over there who are getting slaughtered.
And he said, you know, but like it was foolish.
What did Hamas think that they were, you know, that Yahoo was going to do?
Of course.
But he said something interesting to me.
He said, I don't watch the news in America because it's ran by Israel.
He's not wrong.
In his thick accent.
But he actually had converted to Christianity when he came to America, which I thought was kind of cool, like assimilation.
Yeah, y'all should do it.
But his stance was, oh, I don't watch the news here.
Completely, like, just unbiased, not somebody who's involved.
He said, because everybody knows it's ran by Israel.
And I was like...
Oh, really?
I've watched a lot of coverage over the past week.
We do a lot of preparation for these episodes, trying to think about what the truth of these matters are, how to address them.
First of all, I've seen a lot of atrocity propaganda.
And it was capped off today when the Netanyahu administration, instead of presenting the videos maybe to the family, and I don't know why you would anyway.
Think about this.
Would you want to see your brother or your family being murdered on camera?
No.
No, right?
But you probably wouldn't want other people to see that either.
Right.
Well, Minister Netanyahu said, no, no, it's not important what the families want.
I want to show foreign journalists all the beheadings, all the alleged massacres.
I say alleged because one of the issues we face in this conflict, Lauren, is there's a lot of deepfakes.
There's a lot of footage repurposed for many years.
I do believe some of it is real because I have friends who've visited now the kibbutzes.
Not Jews, but Americans.
Because there are Americans on the ground right now in Israel.
We have reports of about 20,000 soldiers that have been moved in as peacekeepers to stop Hezbollah in the north, in Lebanon, for attacking in...
Maskers, I think, occurred.
Videos were shown to foreign journalists today.
And, of course, those foreign journalists are all Zionists already.
They're people who are going to take the information and then write atrocity propaganda poems, as Joe Pollack did, one of the editor-at-large for Breitbart.
In his poem, he ended by saying that there needs to be justice.
There's a funny thing about that phrase, because depending on who you're speaking to, it has different meanings.
I believe Joel is talking about retribution.
I think Joel is talking about revenge.
And I think the nation state of Israel right now, their response and the media here in the United States has helped to this.
It is trying to drive home to anyone who's paying attention That Israel has a right to revenge.
That's what they should be saying.
They should stop saying a right to defense, a right to revenge.
Well, you know what the Bible says now?
It says, vengeance is mine, says the Lord.
That's right.
And they're trying to take that vengeance themselves.
And we don't have to support it.
America is a Christian nation founded by Christians, designed for Christians, for Christians.
There's no reason that America should be getting involved in this war.
That is the thing.
And they are justifying the horror that they are doing over there with the propaganda.
They're very good propagandists.
That's something that you can count on that they are.
They were literally buying ads.
Israel was buying advertising, putting atrocity propaganda, targeting, target marketing Americans.
So if you go on your Twitter feed, you'll see a sponsored ad from Israel saying, look at what they did to us.
Look what they did to us.
And it's all to justify the vengeance, the uncontrolled vengeance that they are taking out on those people and punishing all of them.
Collective punishment is not a Christian value, never has been.
It's to punish the many for the bad behavior of the few.
And there was, what, 1% of the population is Hamas?
And they're killing everybody.
They're flattening it.
And, you know, partially, I do believe that it's partially a land grab, too.
You know, we had talked about that $60 million pipeline that's going in through Gaza.
You know, does that justify murder?
No.
And it's in both ends of it.
You mentioned Hamas.
I think it's important because we're truth seekers.
We're Christians.
And there's a tendency, especially in our ecosystem right now, to have a lot of empathy toward the Palestinians.
It's important to be really distinct about this.
Hamas, they had struck a deal a couple years ago in the Abraham Accords that was not necessarily in the best interest of the Palestinian people, but it was in the best interest of Hamas.
What I mean by this is that in the initial Abraham Accords deal, Hamas was going to get a cut of the revenues for the economic development of Gaza.
There was always a question about what would happen to the Palestinian people.
Would they get a form of citizenship in Israel?
Would they get to have their own country?
Would they get to have a feeling of belonging?
Because for people who live there, Lauren, every single day could be the day they're evicted.
Every single day could be the day the bomb comes through the roof of their house and kills them in their sleep.
That's the life for a Palestinian.
And for them, the deal that was struck kept Hamas in power, was going to give them a certain degree of power even over the West Bank.
Not great for the Palestinians.
On top of this too, the Abraham Accords gave an allotment for a period of disarmament.
It was kind of vague.
Hamas, apparently the entire time, was never going to go with any of this deal.
They were going to use that time period to prepare for a massive attack, a very successful attack.
Successful only because the Israelis were also either caught off guard or stood down.
We've detailed the very real argument that a stand-down occurred.
So I think the truth of this is even Hamas was surprised.
Because now I saw some of this atrocity propaganda One of the stories that's making the rounds right now because of Joel Pollack is the story of one of the young men in Hamas allegedly calling home to his mom back in Gaza.
And she didn't realize, but her son in this story was never planning to come home.
He was planning to martyr himself.
And she was saying goodbye to him, and this is an exchange between the two.
By the way, we don't get to listen to it.
I would question even wanting to listen to it, but at this point I'm a journalist.
I have to review the facts and the evidence.
But it's recounted to us from someone who definitely has a bias.
But I bring this up to say that the fighters were shocked.
Shocked at the lack of defenses.
Shocked at what they were able to do.
And if the reports are true, they kind of went wild inside the kibbutzes.
They decided to take out 50 to 70 years of frustration, anger, and pain out on those residents.
Many of whom had taken that land from Palestinians.
There was a couple from America.
I'm just going to say this straight.
They were dual citizens.
They were Americans and Israelis.
They were vacationing on stolen land.
No one will talk about this.
They're the two that got to come home.
The ones that Sean King, you know, the BLM fellow who said he had a role in recovery.
They were vacationing on stolen land.
What do you mean by stolen land?
The kibbutz is a built.
Because they make the argument that all of it is stolen land.
Sure.
Yeah.
The Israelis will make it, and the Palestinians will make it extra stolen.
They literally took the houses and the farms and the territory through bloodshed, through attacking, through war.
And these Americans, they basically entered in on a deal.
They probably heard that, hey, there's available kibbutzes for vacationing.
They were basically vacationing on the graveyards of Palestinians.
So, I don't know about you, I'm probably not going to vacation to a graveyard.
Two, they'd shown up there maybe completely aloof to the history.
Well, you don't think that since they've evacuated all of North Gaza, 400,000 people, that they're not going to push further out, build a wall around there, and expand?
You don't think that...
I think that they won't have the ability to do that.
So South Africa, they tried something along these lines during the attempt to suppress the Afrikaans.
They found it very quickly.
I spoke to a paratrooper in the South African military who dealt with crowd control during this time.
Same deal.
Millions of people.
Hundreds of thousands in the street.
You can't just move this block of people, and even in this case, North Gaza.
You can't just evacuate North Gaza.
Where are they going?
They're going into South Gaza.
They're going to homes that don't have power, don't have water, don't have resources.
Eventually, what you're going to have is a stampede.
The people of Gaza are eventually just going to march north and march south.
They're going to go in every different quadrant.
Or they're going to start fighting.
And that's the part the IDF is afraid of.
And that's the part that I think, you know, the man who's in the gas station, the Lebanese man, a lot of the people in the Middle East, they spend an exuberant amount of time Game playing this through, thinking about the...
And he said that while Hamas has done a terrible thing, there was this weird status quo for a while, which was you've got armed Islamic militias in the north, you've got Hamas armed in the south, but there was an understanding that if Hamas ever were to attack Israel, it would give Israel the justification to do what they've always wanted to do, to take the land by force.
The thing is, Israel wasn't even prepared to call the bluff of that, though.
What I mean by that is they didn't have an invasion force trained and ready at all times to take that land.
They always thought Hamas would never do it.
Same with Hezbollah.
You know, Israel right now is using atrocity propaganda and using our media to browbeat us into thinking that, oh, Iran and Hezbollah are just waiting, they're biting at the bit to kill Jews.
I'll tell you this.
The largest population in the Middle East outside of Israel for Jews is in Iran.
And guess what?
The chief rabbi of Iran, Barel Lazar, told me when I interviewed him in 2020, he said that they live in absolute peace and harmony with the Iranians.
If I were the Iranians and I hated Jews and I just wanted to murder people, wouldn't you start with your own Jewish community?
That would be the easiest one.
If we're thinking about efficient ways to do it, guess what?
They haven't.
Because for the Iranians, it's not that simple.
For none of the people in that region, it's that simple.
The Jews are using the current media in America and around the world to try to present this childish presentation of the status quo.
It's not.
What it is right now You have several competing Islamic powers that are going to make some very serious decisions in the next coming weeks, dependent on what Israel does to Gaza.
Specifically, Iran is probably the biggest of the players.
Over the weekend, by the way, just to show you how hot of a situation this is, Israel accidentally attacked an Egyptian military position on their border.
This is in the south.
Yeah, so an IDF tank shot around at a guard tower.
Now, I've read today the number.
No Egyptian died, thank God.
About 10 were injured from shrapnel.
But it shows you, one, the state of the IDF, two, just how close this is.
Because if Egypt, Lauren, were to enter against Israel, you have a repeat of 67 and 73.
All it takes for Israel to fall Is Iran and Egypt unifying against Israel?
No, because America will never let that happen.
That's true to a degree.
That's the thing.
We will get involved.
And especially because it's escalating to that point, we will get involved.
Americans will die and go fight and die in that war if it escalates to that point, which it already has.
Iran's already involved.
I know there's a lot of...
Christians and Jews, both in Jordan, too, that live in harmony.
No problems.
No problem, yeah.
No problems at all.
Yeah, and it's because, again, they have your mutual respect.
Yeah.
It's that they don't let the most extreme voices, you know, scream the loudest.
And the most extreme voices being...
Some of the Islamic factions are calling to murder all the Jews.
And then the Jewish zealots, they don't exist in these countries.
They're not allowed to.
The ones that say they have a supremacy over all the races and all the people.
You know, basically what the Talmud says.
We can read too.
We know what the Talmud says.
And it's abhorrent and it's not something that can last in Western society.
But...
The gamble that is being made right now by putting U.S. soldiers and two carrier strike groups in the region as some kind of deterrent against Hezbollah in Egypt.
Egypt, it's very unlikely, would join.
Hezbollah, I think that they would consider it, along with Syria, if it is shown that Israel is going to act purely out of malice and emotion.
Which is what revenge is.
If they show this, I think even Egypt has an option to enter the fight.
And 20,000 U.S. soldiers and even nukes can't be a credible deterrent.
There's been a discussion lately of the Samson option.
Yes.
And people, they hear this and they kind of glass themselves.
They're like, well, what is the Samson option?
What are these things?
Is this even real?
Yes.
The Samson option, in short, is a death protocol that Israel has in place, like a last stand protocol, that if Israel ever is on the brink of being overrun, they will fire off nukes to every major capital in the world.
And this is supposed to be some kind of blackmail to make sure the United States and the United Kingdom, Germany, and every other country in the world never forget that they have to fight for Israel, have to back them.
Well, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro were talking about that.
Like, I heard that all last week.
It was basically, America, you better step in or we're going to pull out the nukes.
But, you know, in 2022, the UN had voted on a resolution for Israel to not have nukes.
And everybody, pretty much everybody voted for it except for America.
Italy ended up getting on board.
A couple of others.
But I think there was the sense that, hey, you know, if Israel gets a hold of nukes and you piss them off, like we see this irrational vengeance that is happening.
That irrational seeing red and just reacting.
There wasn't a strategy to it.
And we don't have to support that.
No.
And if people were to take a second to think, isn't this what we were told was the biggest threat with a nation like North Korea, heavy nukes?
This propaganda, they have a tough time with the propaganda sometimes, Lauren, because if we ever break out of this as a society and we start thinking about these things fully...
We've been told why it's bad for a vengeful dictator to get their hands on nuclear weapons and they'll use them to threaten the world and the black people.
That's exactly what, as you noted, Mark Levin said Israel will do.
That's exactly what Israel has done in the past.
And with these hostages, this is another end of this whole discussion.
So one, I would call on Hamas to release all the hostages.
I know today, 50 more were released.
We had the two Americans that were released last week.
The sad thing, Lauren, is a lot of European countries, all they care about is getting the hostages released.
And at this point, they would just stay out of it and let Israel do what they...
Will to the Palestinian people.
But the hostages need to be released.
This is a very important position because Hamas and the Palestinians at large, they need to be able to show the world that they are not doing anything to give a justification.
It's tough, right?
Some people say, well, the hostages are the only reason Israel is not attacking.
That's not true.
And this is why.
The IDF has a protocol called the Hannibal Protocol.
And what this is, in basic training and in subsequent training...
I can imagine.
Well, sure, it's not to eat them, as it might be.
This is the Ozoff Battalion, right?
Well, what's funny about that, what's not funny, but funny, is you know that when the Romans besieged Jerusalem, it was the foretold sacking of Jerusalem that Jesus told about in 70 AD, the Romans, when they came through the city, found that Jews had eaten other Jews.
There was cannibalism.
This just shows you the extent of it.
Even Masada, the fortress of zealots that held out much of which had the same mentality as Judas.
They wanted Jesus to come as a warrior, to kill everybody who was in the land to give it back to them.
And they were really mad when he did it.
And they were very mad.
But the Hannibal Protocol for the IDF, Lauren, is that the IDF is told they should expect that their soldiers and their people will be sacrificed.
They will be killed through Israeli bombing or Israeli attacks in the event that they're captured.
This is also to incentivize soldiers to fight to the death.
This is how their mentality is.
And they always point back to all the Holocaust or the 73 war, the 67.
Every country around us hates us.
Every country wants to murder us.
No, they don't, really.
They would like to do business with you, fairly.
They'd like you to stop indiscriminately bombing their hospitals, their churches, their weddings.
They'd like you to stop treating not just the Arabs, but the world at large, as useless cattle goy.
And beneath you.
Exactly.
That's what they like.
Well, I noticed also that they've...
They really don't consider them human.
They consider them animals, rats.
Like cockroaches they call.
They dehumanize them.
But here's the thing.
Christ died on the cross for them too.
He died for every single one of you.
There is neither Jew nor Gentile.
We are all one in Christ Jesus.
And that's just a fact.
They make a plea to humanity and the humanity in us when they show us images of brutality against children.
They tell us stories about brutality against families and children and women.
They make a plea to our humanity, but they themselves are ignoring the humanity of the situation.
They are physically dehumanizing the people that they are about to murder.
And it is murder.
Some of these Palestinians have not been fighting back.
Actually, the majority haven't.
If you want to see that entire territory fight back, you'll see entire battalions of IDF get butchered.
That's what will happen.
If you have an entire city rise up, I spoke to you about Sadr City, and since other examples have been brought forward from other military experts who are thinking about this, you can't just go into an urban area that's armed, that's pissed off, that has nothing to lose, and expect not to lose large amounts of soldiers.
And in respect to this predicament, But Israel has a few options.
I don't want, you know, the Christian Zionists out there who are praying for Israel to forget this.
Maybe you need to be praying for Israel to be thinking about this a little clearer.
One, there are no U.S. soldiers and hundreds of thousands that are coming to your nation to help you.
All right?
That's not happening.
One, they're not qualified to.
Right.
Most soldiers do...
And Joe Biden would lose the election if he did that.
Oh, sure.
Exactly.
And they know that.
Yeah.
They know that.
But, I mean, he also may still lose the election if he keeps sending on millions and millions...
Yeah.
Billions of dollars.
Well, this last proposal was $61 billion to Ukraine and $14 billion to Israel.
That leech, Zelensky, made sure he got his weaseled way in and they were trying to push through.
But, I mean, Congress can't do anything right now because we don't have a House Speaker, which Probably is for the best.
I think that Congress, I haven't noticed any difference.
You know, my everyday life, I just haven't had more of my rights voted away.
So I actually probably could do, we could probably do without the federal government, just collectively.
But what I'm saying is...
He is not going to send—I don't think Biden's going to send troops unless Israel escalates this to the point where they cannot, and they have to, where Iran's involved, Egypt is involved, everybody's involved, and we have to stand with our ally, our greatest ally, in order for us to uphold our end of the bargain.
However, you know, Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, I mean, they did negotiate the Abraham Accords.
You know, they did negotiate peace.
And it's just kind of gone awry since then.
I truly don't believe this would have happened had Donald Trump been president.
I do think that.
I mean, that's what he said.
He said this would have never happened.
And, you know, I appreciate the fact that Trump was a peace president.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, I think President Trump, he actually gave attention to Mahoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority.
I think President Trump didn't quite know how to handle Hamas other than trying to provide economic opportunities to the people of Gaza.
The deal that was struck, if there wasn't this corruption with Hamas, Was going to lead to jobs and opportunity and schooling and all things opportunity for the first time in a century.
If you choose peace.
Idle hands are like evil, so you're not joining a gang or a radical extremist group if you have a job.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think that was his perspective is, hey, we bring economic growth, we get them jobs, we get them working, they have something they're proud of.
That is what keeps people from becoming extremists and joining these groups.
And I think that was actually very wise, just overwhelmingly, if you're Absolutely.
And I think that a lot of people default to this mindset that they need to join Hamas or even Hezbollah or these gangs as their only form of resistance.
I think, honestly, the greatest form of resistance and the most effective at times is peaceful resistance.
Look at Gandhi in India.
There were uprisings, but I'd say what really shook the British Empire was being faced with the very decision that Israel is being faced with today.
Was England willing to genocide large swaths of Indians to keep control Of that country.
No, they weren't.
And it turned out the soldiers themselves, the generals, were unwilling to do it.
The only thing that's different now is we have the technology maybe to do greater harm to larger swaths of people.
But the thing is still true, it's still a person having to make the decision to murder another person.
You have to live with that.
Kids are going to have to live with that.
The Israelis, I think, are the left-wing ones.
They won't live with it.
And that's my bet.
My prayer is that Israel would come to terms with their legacy.
And I think it has happened.
To a degree, if the United States would stop getting involved, stop putting the backing behind the tyrannical censorship and the tyrannical kind of malaise over Israeli power, you would realize that the country itself has devolved into a failed state.
Only five, six months ago, the country itself had Jews killing Jews in the street.
They had Jews gassing Jews with tear gas because a large swath of that population does not like the corruption, the illegitimacy.
Something I'd have Americans think about, Lauren.
The reason why we speak in defense of the Palestinian people is that we see in them a parallel.
We as Christian futurists, Christian nationalists, Christians in America are being dehumanized by our government.
Yes.
We're having our rights stripped.
We're being attacked in the middle of the night.
You know, our money's being taken.
We're being thrown in prison with no due process.
Exactly.
You know, it's already happening.
And, yeah, I mean, it's like we're looking at a little taste of what they want to do to us.
Like, mark my words, they would love to do that to America and take over America.
Oh, sure.
And they would love to crush the American spirit.
Yes.
And it does start with that dehumanizing of them.
Oh, they're animals.
They're rats.
They aren't real human beings.
And that's already starting here because they are taking our human rights away from us.
Slowly, very slowly, you know, right to free speech, right to due process, you know, right to express your beliefs and express them freely without having your bank account shut down, without losing your job, not taking an experimental jab, being a walking guinea pig.
You know, they are starting to slowly dehumanize us and dehumanize us.
But what is the reason for that?
They do that because it's about control.
Because if they can make you not seem human, it's also, I think, a coat for them, too.
It's like, well, if they're not human, oh, I can do whatever I want to them, and I can feel no remorse, no guilt.
Nothing's going to happen to me because they're not really human.
You know, that kind of thing.
So it's all just, you know, and it's true, I do see a parallel.
A lot of stuff, and, you know, looking at the Palestinian history, they used to be a lot like us.
That's the thing.
The British had done well with them.
They were, you know, very proper, cosmopolitan people who were developing quickly, and now look at them.
That is, they're in a cage.
It's disgusting.
It's disgusting what's been done to them.
They've been groomed as a people to hatred.
When I visited that region, it's kind of surreal to redo all of this mentally.
Because in 2018, 2019, when I went to Bethlehem, to West Bank, to the occupied territory, You're left realizing that the Palestinian people were on a trajectory for war.
It was partly because they did refuse to challenge the power bullies, the cartels that are in charge, and the West Bank and Gaza.
But at the same time, people say that.
They say, well, why don't the Palestinians rise up against their people?
Why haven't we?
It's not as easy.
Right.
I mean, yeah, that's the thing.
They're like, oh, they voted for them.
Okay, there hasn't been an election in 17 years.
Since 2006.
Half of the country is children, so they weren't even old enough to be born when Hamas seized power.
You know, it's 17 years.
Imagine if we had gotten stuck with Joe Biden for 17 years, and 17 years from now, he does something really bad, and they decide to just kill all of us.
It's not our fault.
We have nothing to do with it.
And it's not like we supported him.
We did everything we could to stop him.
And that is what we elected.
And that was what was chosen for us.
And it's not, you know, a decision.
Biden, you know, say someday he makes a very bad decision.
Does that give you the right to massacre a whole people?
No, it doesn't.
And it's wrong for you to think that it does.
It is wrong.
It's not Christian.
I know that's a tough thing for some people to hear, but there's a lot of non-Christian thought that's going on when it comes to this.
You're supposed to love your enemy.
Let's say you do absolutely hate them.
I know it sucks because I hate that.
I hate the fact that God tells me to love my enemy.
However, that's what he says.
And you know what?
When Christ died on the cross, that new covenant came.
And we are under brand new rules, folks.
And Jesus made it clear, it's either the only way through the Father is through me.
That's it.
You know, there is no, you're a special bloodline, so you get a pass.
Nobody is immune from sin, you know.
And we all have to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior, or we're going to get, like, you know, we're, your eternity is not going to look so hot.
And that's the truth, though.
That's a fact.
It's absolutely going to lead to the end of America, too.
That's not a hyperbolic thing to say in respect to this, because even the secular in society are starting to realize the impact that an escalation in the Middle East could have.
I was listening to an interview with RFK Jr.
this past weekend.
He said that the way that we levy taxes on the public for war is through inflation.
Before, the way it used to be, the legal way, is that you have to create, you have to pass a bill, pass a certain tax that's going to pay you for the war.
And then people say, why does this cost more?
And you start to think about that.
It hits you right there.
You say, my goodness, I'm paying more in taxes to pay for this war.
Do I really want to fight this?
Is it really in the interest of my country and my family?
When it comes to inflation, it's done in such a subtle and passive and very deceptive way that you don't realize it.
You're just told, oh, the economy's bad.
Well, it's because people are realizing that there's no law that says they have to pay federal income tax.
They're starting to realize it now, and so they're trying to figure out a way, oh, I've still got to get my money.
And you know what?
I have an opinion about property taxes that I'd just like to get off my chest because, you know, I'm a New homeowner, Ed.
But is it really yours if the government can take it if I don't pay taxes on it?
Property tax is a scam.
Property tax is a way for the government to maintain control because if I don't pay my property taxes, that property goes to the government.
It's never mine in the first place.
I think that that is the biggest scam and crime against humanity.
Yet again, talking about our God-given rights being taken from us.
But, um...
Yeah, sorry, rant over.
But either way, sorry, but that's a good take from RFK where, you know, that is how you get your war paid for is make them pay at the grocery store.
The gas tank.
Every purchase.
For many, there's a certain awakening in them when they start paying taxes in some form.
Like with homeownership, I didn't realize how much of a scam a mortgage is.
You start to realize that you're paying probably maybe 20 to 30% of your payment is for the actual principal, the actual cost of the home.
The rest of it is debt.
It's the interest.
You're like, my goodness, this is literal usury.
And then to the point that you made about the taxes on the home and the property, I live in a county, you live in this county, that we have almost a billion dollars.
It's raised from property taxes and the annual budget, and it's supposed to go toward education.
Do the kids coming out of our county, are they like Ivy League students?
Are they rocket scientists?
Maybe a few of them, but not all of them.
No, the money, when government at large is given a blank check, they're going to spend it to their own means.
Well, it's because a lot of the money goes to administrative stuff that is completely unnecessary.
DEI programs, you know, diversity and equity programs.
We're funding all that.
That is where a lot of that waste goes to.
I'd love for a leader to come in America and just wipe all that out.
Fire half the federal government.
We'll figure it out ourselves.
We don't need a Department of Education to tell us what to teach our kids.
bring it back to the community, hire local, teach local, because different places need different things.
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You know, this weekend, there were several blowbacks.
I would say that blowback simply means the impact on the rest of the world from events that are happening, such as the escalation of war in the Middle East and in Gaza.
One of them was there was a murder.
I don't know if you saw this, but in Detroit, there was a synagogue leader, a female synagogue leader that was stabbed to death.
Now this is, of course, now given light to the ADL. Are they saying it's like a hate crime or is it just regular run-of-the-mill diversity doing its thing in Detroit?
What's likely is it's just run-of-the-mill jungle kind of attack.
Yeah, jungle behavior.
No, no, no.
That's what's likely.
People have been getting murdered recently in America recently.
Just because, you know, we're not arresting criminals.
We're not arresting murderers.
We're not hunting down criminals because it's racist.
So how do we know that this is a hate crime versus this is just the cost of diversity?
Well, the thing that I've been wrestling with is that, so some of these groups are incredibly low IQ. You know, some of them, you know, they have probably 90 IQ. This is, you know, bare level, able to process many things.
When they're seeing brutality, they're seeing atrocities, they're hearing reports about their group being eradicated.
Let's say you're Muslim, let's say you're black, let's say you're a minority that empathizes with the Palestinians.
Something in you is prone to be set off.
And I think this is one why we have to control immigration to this country.
You know, you, among many leaders in the anti-immigration movement, Screaming from the mountaintop for Immigration Monitoring.
Well, unfortunately, now we're seeing the impact of what it looks like to have these groups in the country.
Top of that, too, for the Jews, they have to realize that this is the impact of the dehumanization of the people.
You will be targeted now.
A lot of them now are like, America's too far gone.
But you were cheering on politicians as they masked up kids, as they forced a jab on us.
They were the largest advocate for it.
the largest advocate for mass immigration.
They run a lot of those charities that bring migrants in.
You know, there's a lot of things that got us to this point.
This isn't just something that just happened.
Like, well, my gosh, we just turned our backs on them and we're just evil.
No, it was a slow fade.
And actually, it wasn't even that slow of a fade.
It was like a decade when everything went to crap.
But, you know, and it was accelerated.
And we got to this point because of what we allowed.
Sure.
And I've heard that talking point during this war that...
We talked about this a little bit already.
The Palestinians need to police their own.
Well, the Jews haven't policed their own.
Left-wing Jews are the ones that supported mass immigration.
Left-wing Jews have taken over many of these areas.
A lot of the immigration lobbies, 98% of their candidates got elected through AIPAC, and a lot of them were not voting good.
They were not voting very godly at all.
But, you know, they're partially responsible for that.
You know, as people who claim to be conservative, who claim to love God, you are not operating.
You're not voting.
You know, so I have a lot of beliefs that are...
I have Christian beliefs, and I have my liberal side, of course, where I have opinions on things.
You know, I believe in some things.
But, you know, I vote according to what God says.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I may not...
Agree with some things, but I vote.
I show up to the poll booth and I vote how God would want me to vote because that's how I do.
They don't do that.
They vote how they feel.
We know better than people like John Hagee.
I will say that.
And the bombing of this church is a deciding factor for me.
No more foreign aid.
No more weapons to random countries and people.
It was America who has the blood on their hands for this church.
Because Israel by themselves doesn't manufacture weapons.
Israel, though they have the ability probably to fund their own defense and fund their own genocide if they wanted to, they don't.
They rely on the rest of the world to finance it.
This should be an issue that every Christian should vote on.
Every Christian should see that money that was produced here in America, wealth, was used to kill other Christians.
Thus, you should vote against it.
It should be a one-issue thing.
But also, I want to point out something.
Many Christians who are hearing this weekend about the vitriolic and theological calls for defense of Israel, what you're not hearing is about what the Israelis are actually doing.
Now, we've talked about the genocide in the Gaza Strip.
There's also now, you know, calls for genocide in the West Bank.
A lot of Christians, a lot of Americans don't know the geography.
They don't know there's two separate regions where the Palestinians are in Israel.
And it's in the northeast in the West Bank, right next to actually where Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus Christ is.
And then south in the Gaza Strip between Israel and Egypt.
Now, in the West Bank, there are roaming gangs of zealous Jews who have essentially taken it upon themselves to enact revenge.
Now, this weekend, there was a pretty serious beating, raping, burning that took place.
And the photos are just absolutely boring.
I'm not going to do what many have done.
We're not going to be publicizing a lot of these photos of abuse.
I think it does a level of...
I will describe it to you the same way Joel Pollack has described it to you.
There were men and women who were bound, who were photographed, stripped naked, urinated on, and had cigarettes put out on them, and then were sexually assaulted and sodomized.
They were sodomized by Jews.
Jews did this to Muslims.
Jews did this to random people they said that were responsible for the attack.
So they weren't Hamas?
Of course they weren't Hamas.
Oh, okay.
I was just making sure.
Of course they'll say, well, they were terrorists, Edward.
Not everyone there.
No, they were just ordinary.
Hardly anyone actually is a terrorist there.
They were just ordinary Palestinians.
Just average people.
They got taken, they got beaten, they got bound, and they got treated like worse than dogs.
I don't think dogs get treated like this.
Mind you, they got treated like flesh, like meat, the same way people were treated in the kibbutzes.
And I look at this and I think to what the impact is going to be globally.
There is a hatred brewing against Jews.
And you think what Hamas did was bad.
Wait till low IQ, angry, pissed off, with no recourse individuals across the world.
They start to say, well, I'm going to take it upon myself to rise up.
And you won't see a day of jihad.
What you will see is a day of retribution.
I don't want to see this.
I'm someone who's sitting here as a Christian, praying for both sides, praying for peace, but I see the writing on the wall.
I see what you're saying, where they are overplaying their hand to the point where it is people like other Muslim countries are not just going to sit by.
Like I said, there's no strategy behind it.
It's just they saw red and they reacted.
And it's just kill, kill, kill.
Oh, you aren't okay with this?
Oh, that makes you a Hamas supporter.
You're a terrorist supporter.
We're going to ruin your life.
We're going to get you fired from your job.
You'll never be able to get a job or a career on Wall Street unless you sign off on this.
Unless you sign off on my anger and my reaction to massacre all those people because It makes me feel better.
Do you think it's going to make them feel better?
No, it is never going to be enough.
They are full of rage and then also threatening Americans, if you don't support this, if you don't help me do this, I'm going to nuke all of you.
I'm going to start something that nobody can be able to finish.
I'm going to start a World War III. And it is true, you know, and it is their own anger, vengeance that is going to escalate this to the point where, like you said, there's these countries, they don't exactly have the decency and filter that we have.
They are going to react and it is going to be very bad.
And also, they're going to take it out on Americans who supported them, too.
You know what I'm saying?
Right now, they see the Republican Party as supporting a genocide.
The evangelical church, they see them as supporting a genocide right now because I'm praying for the evangelical church.
I hope that they open their eyes and realize, like, hey, I pray for God to open their eyes.
And I think they are just by the behavior of Israel and to the point where they are way overplaying their hand.
But that makes evangelicals a target.
It really does.
How do we know that a Muslim who's angry isn't going to go into a very pro-Israel evangelical church and take out their anger on them if this continues, if we continue to support it?
How do you know?
That is America now.
We aren't just a majority white country.
We're about 50% white and the other 50% is a wild card.
We have third world migrants.
We have a lot of Muslims.
We have a lot of Somalians.
We have a lot of people that have come here that do not agree with us.
And it's not even like we're acting humanely or rationally.
They're coming for blood.
Now, Ed, you were in D.C. this past weekend.
Now, tell me what you saw.
So I saw, actually, an impromptu gathering of pro-Palestinian individuals, a lot of Muslims.
It was a little bit unnerving in this respect.
I do like the calls for peace, but I didn't care much for the screaming of Al-Akbar through Pennsylvania Avenue.
I sat here wondering if we were trading one occupation for another.
It's not like a Zionist thing or a neoconsertive thing to say.
What I simply mean here is that we have invited people into this country that have diluted our society.
And they're trying to make us...
They want us to care about their issues.
They want us to...
I guess in this case, I spoke to a lot of the people in the crowd.
They said they wanted us to intervene.
But on the side of Palestine.
I said to them, I was like, you understand, any intervention that you greenlight in this country, because we don't control this government, is going to be on behalf of Israel.
Yet you, in your mind, you've come to my country, and like the Ukrainians, that we chased off the Capitol grounds when we visited.
You want what we have.
And you want to raid us.
You want us to die for you.
I want you to believe the things I believe.
That's what I want.
I want you to become a Christian.
Assimilation hasn't really worked in this country politically.
You know, it kind of backfired for the Jews.
Sure.
It kind of did because they supported mass immigration to the point because they were trying to destroy or kind of break down the social fabric of America, the strong Christian stronghold we had over it.
They opened up these migration lobbies.
They financed a lot of these charities that brought in migrants.
And it kind of bit them in the rear end because now when they need to rally American support, like they would have easily been able to do 10 years ago, they aren't able to because people oppose them.
They imported people that do not support them at all.
And now why did you think it was a good thing for us before and now you're mad?
You know, you're mad.
You're like, oh, America's too far gone.
You know, you're a, this is disgraceful.
All these people that are Hamas supporters, you brought them here.
Nobody asked.
I wasn't asked.
Nobody asked to bring them here.
You imported them here.
You supported and financed a lot of initiatives to bring them here.
And then you're mad because they're protesting you.
Yeah, I think there's quite a level of gall from the government to send any money to other countries when we right now, according to this very same government, are experiencing an immigration wave that includes people who might hate us, might infiltrate us.
I was watching one of the propaganda channels in this country, Fox News.
They were talking about there's 2,000 Chinese that have come across the border.
There's sleeper cells.
There's Hezbollah.
There's Hamas.
There's people that want to murder you, Edward.
I'm like, well, you've left this border open.
And then you're not spending any money to secure it.
Instead, you're sending it over to Ukraine, where Ukraine's getting decimated.
And you're sending it over to Palestine, where the munitions are being used against churches.
Yes.
Yep, that's exactly it.
And it really is just crazy.
It is nuts.
You know, they say empires rise and fall about every 250 years.
I think America might be reaching that point.
We might have to just do a secession and start over a small, a mini-America.
I'd be okay with that.
I'd be okay.
You know, just give us the South.
We'll take it over.
We'll put a nice big border wall on.
We'll get our own leadership and we'll leave the Northerners alone.
Maybe.
We'll take Idaho, though.
We'll take Idaho from you.
I'm a big fan of Balkanization.
I'm not sure if we can come to terms with one another.
I'm talking about across this country.
The left and the right, they're just so different now.
Multiculturalism is designed to make cultures not trust each other.
It weakens a country because, you know, they did the same thing with unions.
So they imported a lot of foreign workers, multicultural workers into and gave them union jobs because they knew that they couldn't organize, that unions could not organize when it was majority white.
So they had to bring in Hispanics and And Indians and all these people that come in and it makes it so they can't communicate, they can't trust each other, and they can't organize to take down the bosses, you know, to get their correct rights.
It is a weakener of social fabric.
Multiculturalism, that is what it is designed to do.
And the people who financed it are now mad that it is not working in their favor.
Well, absolutely.
And I think that this country, what will bring us down is our inability to run the systems anymore, our inability to create amazing things.
It's what made America unique.
On top of the fact that we were so separated from the rest of the world, Europe, Asia, that no one could evade us, no one could divide us.
However, we let them in through immigration and through various forms of bribery, and they now control us.
I think that the Balkanization that you're speaking about is a reset that's necessary.
You know, again, we as Christians, we haven't done this violently.
I look at Israel's creation, for example.
Would Israel be a country if they didn't kill a bunch of Christians, the British, in bomb attacks and such, and massacre the Muslims there?
No.
Israel would not be a country today.
I think America would probably not be a country if it wasn't for the revolution against the British.
Here's the thing with this.
The elite will often make us think that we have to support violent uprisings as a way to shake free from the control of an oppressor.
But truly, the elite among us, those that oppress us the most, are the ones that are wolves in sheep's clothing.
You mentioned the Republicans.
I've seen more zealotry and effort from the Republicans in trying to drum up support for Israel.
And I've seen for any initiative to close the border, protect churches.
If we could channel half that energy, we'd have a big, beautiful border wall.
That's why Israel has one and we don't.
We'd have a moat with gators.
We'd have mass deportations.
If we channeled even a fraction of that energy and applied it to ourselves that they're giving to Israel, America would be in much better shape.
But you were sorry.
I had to preach, brother.
Go on.
It's the core of it.
I was really sad to read an article in Politico today.
That even Paul Gosar, someone who has been a staunch ally of Immigration Monitorium and, you know, some initiatives on the right.
He ran on it.
He ran on it.
And, you know, they got him to sit down with an Israel advocacy group today, among other Republicans.
And Paul Gosar, among many of the Republican caucuses, is saying, well, we don't want to die on the hill of not supporting Israel.
Very sad to see this, because many Republicans were unwilling to die on the hill of protecting Christian values.
If we had fought, for example...
Wait, so Paul Gosar, what happened today?
So this is today?
Yes.
Or is this recently?
So Paul Gosar sat down with...
It was a Jewish advocacy group.
What provoked that?
So the lack of speakership, the continued calls for retribution, I think everything in regard to the...
What they say is the growing anti-Semitism in the party.
This is one of the baits they used.
It's the bait they used to drag Marjorie Taylor Greene to the Holocaust Museum.
They finally actually got Paul Gosar to attend this meeting, among other Republicans.
And the sole goal of this meeting is to drive up support for military intervention.
And it's sad to see this because I think many of the people that have supported Paul Gosar supported him because he did put America in front of any other country.
And as you'd expect any elected official in this country to do.
It is becoming a broken record, but I guess it is...
Yeah, they're grinding them down.
It's becoming a broken record that we have to even say people who are elected in this country should put the interests of their people first.
Oh, no.
I think we've realized one thing is that the people that we have, some of them who are elected, some of them who are selected in these positions that we never even got a chance to vote for, care about other countries.
They care about Israel more than they care about America.
And that is terrible.
And that is treacherous.
And I think they should be treated as traitors, because if you put another country above ours, why are you here?
Go there.
Ben Shapiro, for instance, huge advocate of Israel calling for the genocide, total psycho posting about the nukes and the murder.
If he channeled some of that energy to fight anti-white racism in the college campuses, to build the wall and get funding for the southern border, he would be unstoppable.
We would actually win.
But you know what?
America isn't his home.
He considers Israel his home.
But why doesn't he live in Israel?
He said this himself.
It's because I have so much influence here.
My platform is so big here.
I can influence Americans to help Israel.
It's not because he loves it here.
We've been looted.
We've been raided.
We have nothing left, Ben.
We have nothing left.
And Ben Shapiro will use his platform to call for murder, but he won't go volunteer at the IDF. He'll cry about being confronted in front of a convention.
He'll cry crocodile tears for those that were killed in the Hamas attack, but he will not ask how the attack took place to begin with.
We're considered all the terrible words in the nasty books from the ADL because we ask these questions.
But I think we have a right to ask them because we're paying for this civilization, this war, this problem.
But two, because we're being browbeat.
Our parents are being propagandized and our nation is being lost to the very people that are using their influence for another country.
Ben Shapiro, if he had put half the effort that he put in to fight for intervention in Israel into saving children, stopping abortion, I think that we would have ended Roe v.
Wade a long time ago.
But something that people don't know is that abortion, the infanticide, Because they will talk to us about the beheading of Jewish children.
They won't talk about how many Jewish children have been literally killed through abortion.
They won't talk about how many Americans have been killed.
Jews have kept that industry alive in this country.
Ben knows that.
He's long lamented about liberal Jews being...
Well, Soros, he's one of the main funders of a lot of American initiatives that are very, very evil.
He's Jewish.
I'm pretty sure that wasn't he like one of those people who funded a lot of the election and not...
Well, the poll workers.
You know what I'm saying?
They were behind the non-profits that harvested the ballots and stuff like that.
He has single-handedly deconstructed this country.
He has just completely dismantled it, and he did it by funding the right things.
The non-profits, the NGOs, the people who count the machines, and the people that run the machines.
He is just so deeply rooted.
Did you see what happened with Greta Thunberg this weekend?
Oh, with the octopus.
Oh, it was so funny.
Her autism edible.
Oh, it was so funny.
But it was really dumb.
Republicans looked really dumb.
So she took this picture.
She's pro-Palestine.
That was really what they were just ticked off about.
It had nothing to do with the octopus.
So she had a stuffed octopus on her little armchair.
And they claimed that it was Nazi propaganda.
Dangerous trope.
Yeah, dangerous trope because octopus...
The tentacles are over the nations.
Yeah, saying that the Jews have their tentacles over the nations.
But Republicans, like, really fed into it.
It was really dumb.
She was like, oh, it's for my autism.
And it's like...
Well, again, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because how many people then looked up the trope?
Right?
And then you start to say, well, actually, they do control banking.
Wait, didn't they do...
Didn't they try to take the children away from Ye?
Wait a minute.
You said all this stuff was a conspiracy.
Yeah.
I think the truth is that antisemitism grows.
They do control the media.
And banking.
And the Federal Reserve.
And the government.
And the evil lobbies that are in this country.
And AIPAC. Wait a second!
It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah.
And look, the core of this, I think the reason why we see left-wing and right-wing Jews act in such radical, dehumanizing, and really crazy ways, It's because you should expect this kind of action from a people that literally rebelled from God Himself.
Yes.
They were emboldened after their rebellion.
They defied their very Creator.
Okay?
And by doing so, something awoke in them.
That they could challenge anything in society.
That they, not only were chosen, but they were the ones to have turned away God.
And some of the religious ones will say, well, no, Edward, we're waiting for the Messiah.
Okay, well, I will tell you, my brother, who's not a brother in Christ, but I wish you were, that Christ did come.
The Messiah did come, and he came for you first.
Yep.
You were his favorite, but it sucks because now I'm his favorite too.
Now you've got to share it with me.
I'm just saying, no, but you're right, Ed.
And yeah, they even were willing to crucify Jesus and take his blood, like the curse of his blood may be on us and our children.
They were willing to curse generations to sacrifice Jesus over Barabbas.
And they talk about I'm seeing Revelations, I think it's 2.9 popping up about the synagogue of Satan.
How do you know that this isn't them?
Do we know?
Or how do you decipher who the synagogue of Satan is?
They say that they're Jews, but they are not.
They're actually the synagogue of Satan.
What deciphers that?
What's the characteristics?
How are we supposed to know?
And yeah, it's a very important thing you brought up there because a lot of people are studying end times now.
We're seeing the very real possibility at a war that the world couldn't even conceptualize.
It's not World War II. We're talking about nuclear weapons potentially being used.
We're talking about...
Mass genocide of swaths of populations.
We're talking about hunger.
We're talking about famine.
We're talking about pestilences.
I think that in regard to the scripture you're referring to, it's about what that group is doing.
So Jews that say they're Jews but aren't Jews.
So Jews originally was a term referred to as God's people, people following God.
And then the first century it was The Christians, people at Antioch, Jews who followed Christ, were called as a trope.
They're actually called as like a stereotypical kind of a mean insult.
They're called Christians.
You're Christians because you're Christ-like, you know?
But this is what we are.
It's our characteristic is to follow Christ.
The Beatitudes, for example, in the book of Matthew, we care about people.
We want to do good in the world.
We want to serve our king.
We want to serve our kingdom.
And as we've talked about right in this episode, we want to love our enemy.
For nothing more than to humble them and bring them to the kingdom so they will not burn in hell for eternity.
I mean, there's no greater love than this.
But how do we know that it's the synagogue of Satan?
Well, they'll be serving Satan.
What does Satan want?
To steal, kill, and destroy.
And I hear this even from secular people, some people that may be partly Christian.
Before the show, we heard an individual uses to steal, kill, and destroy.
I don't want to platform people who want to steal, kill, and destroy.
Well, my friend, that comes from the Bible.
And yes, it's a characteristic of the devil.
And people follow the devil.
They seek after evil.
They don't seek after good.
They don't seek after the kingdom.
So the synagogue of Satan would be a group that is trying to take people away from God Is trying to empower the devil and is trying to empower the kingdom of darkness.
I would say a group that is more concentrated on bombing and glassing, an entire group of people they should be witnessing to maybe, they might be serving the devil.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's sure looking like it.
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Well, I'm so glad that we prepared, that we grabbed food, we have meat.
You know, really, we stored up the Word.
We're not shaken by these times.
We're also not willing to.
It was such a blessing to be given a heads up by the Lord to prepare.
We began preparing a year and a bit ago.
We have meat, we have food.
We got a cow.
I got made fun of for getting a cow.
You know what?
We have a cow, okay?
But more than anything, the Lord put onto my heart to store up the Word.
Thus we are not shaken by the wars and rumors of wars, the liars, the snakes, the den of vipers, the synagogue of Satan.
None of this stuff is going to shake us.
We're weighing in on this conflict, as I've said to you, because we're paying for it.
So you know what?
You're going to hear us out.
Yes.
And this is what you're going to hear.
If you attempt to kill those 2.3 million Palestinians, the entire Islamic world is going to destroy you.
And you're going to drag the entire world into a conflict that will probably end up in your nation being removed from the face of the earth.
Don't do it.
If you're a Jew who's angry about the massacres, grieve them.
Take a second to actually grieve the loss of life.
And think about what the Lord would say about this.
Empathy, grace, mercy, forgiveness.
Because this conflict didn't start on October 7th.
This conflict's been going on for thousands of years.
Do what the Christians have done.
In this case, it is to forgive, it is to love, and it is to use sense.
And the sense of this is, we have no role in a genocide.
Don't bring it to our church, don't bring it to our land.
For the Muslims, you also have to forgive.
You aren't going to be able to kill every Jew in the world.
You do this, you're giving them the thing that they've always wanted.
They've wanted the scapegoat.
They've loved scapegoating white nationalists and Christian futurists and these other people, but they especially love turning the world against Muslims.
For Muslim brothers out there, do not give in to these urges to take the Hamas position.
Take the position of the Palestinians.
Take the position of babies and humans, the human position, which is for peace.
So that's how I'm praying.
That's what I've got to say on the matter.
Pray for our leaders too.
Amen.
Pray for Congress that God will convict them and that we will not finance this massacre.
We will not finance this war.
We will not get involved.
That they will put America first.
And we pray for the Palestinians.
We pray for Netanyahu that God will judge him and convict him and bring him to his knees before him and repent for what he has done and save his people.
Amen.
We'll be praying for that.
Well, thank you so much for joining us in this edition of Crosstalk.
On behalf of Lauren Witzke, I'm Edward Zoll.
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