LIVE @3pm EST: JESUS. GUNS. AND BABIES. w/ Dr. Kandiss Taylor ft. Caroline Joyous
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Hey everybody, welcome to Jesus, Guns, and Babies, I'm your host, Dr.
Candice Taylor, and I have a wonderful, beautiful guest on today.
You're going to love her as much as I do.
I'm going to start with 1 Timothy 4.16.
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech and conduct and love and faith and And whenever I was thinking about a verse for today, that's the verse Holy Spirit gave me because I believe that my guest embodies this verse.
So welcome to Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
This is Caroline.
Thank you so much, Mrs.
Taylor, for having me on.
I'm just so thrilled to be speaking with you.
I'm so excited that we finally get to do this.
I mean, I've been wanting to do this since I first heard you speak at a rally in Douglasville, Georgia last year when you were running for governor.
I strongly supported you, by the way.
You should have won.
Georgia is so much better off.
But it's just an honor to be here with you.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate everything that you're doing.
And as I was talking to my dad about you this morning, I was like, this lady is awesome.
I want to be like her one day.
And I'm not trying to flatter you, but you are just such a strong believer in Christ.
And I just love what you stand for.
So thank you so much for all that you do.
And thank you for being someone that the young generation can look up to.
Well, all that back to you, because I watch you, I follow you.
You have a big following on Instagram.
You were saying, I don't have a million, but Caroline, you have a huge following, especially to be a political Instagram, because Instagram is like photos.
And, you know, I know you have TikTok too, and I think you have a pretty big following there, but you have this following on Instagram, which is kind of an anomaly with a conservative, white, Christian female that is...
Speaking out about President Trump and speaking out, you know, and you're so, you do it in such a sweet way.
Sweet but firm.
So I'm just, I'm delighted.
I met you.
You have this joy.
I know your middle name is Joyous and you have this joy that exudes from you anyway.
So when I met you, I thought, golly, I love this girl.
And so I'm so glad.
I've been wanting to have you on for a very long time.
You've met some super cool people and I want to talk about that.
But before we get started, I want to go back and talk about What made you a conservative?
Because you are Generation Z. There's a lot of you that are crazy.
And then there's a lot of you that are on fire for Jesus.
And you want to protect your freedom.
Because you know it's less than a generation away now.
It's losing it all.
And so I want to know what makes you conservative.
Your parents or your growing up or any pivotal moments.
But what makes you who you are, Caroline?
Well, first of all, my heart is just melted over here.
Thank you so much for all your kind words.
That's so sweet of you, Miss Candice.
But honestly, I remember a conversation that my mama and I had when I was like 13 years old, probably.
And I'm 17 now, so this is not that long ago.
And in teenage years, it's a long time.
Yeah, it feels like a lifetime ago now.
Right, that's right.
But, you know, I grew up in a Christian household.
My granddad's a pastor.
I grew up in church.
But I never cared about politics.
And I never even saw how faith and freedom could even really correlate.
As strange as that sounds...
So I remember having a conversation with my mom.
We were walking out of Winn-Dixie, and I was telling her about this story that I heard on the news at my grandparents' house.
I don't even remember what it was.
And I was just going off.
I was so passionate about it, and I've never cared about politics.
And my mom looked at me.
She stopped pushing the buggy, and she said, Caroline, you should get involved in politics.
You need to be in politics.
You care so much about this.
And I looked straight at her, and I laughed, and I said, Mama, I could never be in politics.
I hate politics.
I will never be in politics.
And wow, the Lord, He just takes what we say and He turns our plans for so much better.
Thank goodness His plans are better than our own.
But that didn't really kind of come to pass.
I didn't really get involved in politics until 2021.
And I got fired up about everything, sorry, as most of us did in 2020 when the church is shut down.
And as sad as it is, Ms.
Candice, I never really valued my freedom and I never really even thought very much about my freedom until I started having it taken away blatantly right in front of my eyes.
Like I said, my granddad's a pastor.
Going to church, but not just going to church, being a part of a church has been a really, really big part of my life.
And to have my religious liberty just blatantly taken away from me, right in front of my eyes, here in Alabama, a very conservative, notably red state, I just, I couldn't believe it was happening.
And I was 14 at the time, and I was like, okay, no one's saying anything, but this is obviously wrong.
I wasn't sure exactly how so.
I mean, I knew a little bit about the Constitution, not as much as I should have.
And I just kind of honestly became obsessed overnight with, where is our place as Christians in this fight for freedom?
I started, you know, I watched Tucker Carlson every single night.
I read, but not just, you know, right-wing news, but also I was trying to read as much as I could, trying to think on my own.
And I would just, I'm such a dork, Ms.
Candice, I would write out these papers and like read them to my family.
I'm like, Here's, you know, separation between church and state.
Here's why the government should be shutting down our churches.
Blah, blah, blah.
I was like 14.
And I just, I have loved it ever since.
There have been, man, the Lord has definitely opened my eyes to corruption on both sides of the aisle.
Not just the left, but on the right as well.
And I think with every day that goes by, I'm just praying that He shows me more and more Where my place is as a Christian, as a conservative too, in politics, as a young person.
Because like you said, there are not that many of us that care.
But I think that there really is a lot to be encouraged about.
There are a lot more young people caring.
And that's why I'm staying in this, is because truly, I believe that Christians need to be involved in the fight for freedom.
Yeah, that's kind of how I got involved.
It's kind of a long story.
Yeah, that's great.
But, you know, Caroline, as you were talking, I was thinking, you know, so many times people don't get involved because you have other things, like, you know, fun things you can do, things that aren't important.
You know, to us, but important to you as teenagers.
And so you miss out on those things because maybe you're not invited or maybe you go to a political event instead.
You know, we have a real good friend in common from Northwest Georgia, and he is, Cooper, he was over, you know, the Georgia party, team party, and then over kind of this part of the United States.
And Cooper, Jax, he would He would not go to stuff for teenagers that they normally go to to go to political stuff.
And so I know you do the same thing, but you've met friends all over the country by doing that.
And you've met some pretty cool people like Tucker Carlson and President Trump and a lot of people, right?
A lot of cool...
List on former Caroline, the ones that are noteworthy to you.
Okay, this is, oh my goodness, I can't even tell you.
Well, Miss Candace Taylor, I met her.
She's pretty awesome.
I love her.
Yes, I got to meet Tucker Carlson, President Trump, Governor Ron DeSantis.
Those three, well, I guess I met Trump last year, but I met DeSantis and Tucker this year.
Governor of Alabama here, Governor Kay Ivey, members of Senate, members of Congress, former White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, former White House Press Secretary, Mr.
Sean Spicer, who's incredible, and I gotta say my favorite.
Besides you, my favorite has been Mr.
Sean Foy.
Have you heard of him?
You've probably heard of him.
I've heard of him.
He started Let Us Worship and I love him.
I've had the opportunity to talk with him and talk with his wife like several times over the past couple of years.
So he's definitely been someone that's really stood out to me, but I can't even name all of them.
The Lord has just opened up so many doors.
I can't even believe it, honestly.
Sometimes I'm going through my phone and I'm like, How did that even happen?
Like, it doesn't even make sense to me.
I'm just a girl from rural Alabama.
My family, they were not involved in politics at all.
I mean, they're conservative, but not at all.
So it's not like we're not some mega donors.
And yeah, it's just it's crazy.
But God opens the door and He also connects His people.
I believe that God's in control.
I don't buy into that God's in control.
I think He gives us free will.
Now, He's all-powerful.
He's all-knowing.
But we have authority and we have to work.
And we put feet to our prayers.
And He definitely uses His children to get things accomplished.
Like He speaks things to us and we're supposed to execute it and carry it out.
And if we're not listening and we're not obedient, we can hinder the will of the Lord and the process that people need to go through because we're not being obedient.
So I believe He connects us and He connects us so that His will and His kingdom will be advanced.
So I'm just so thankful that you've met all these people.
And you think about, you know, I'm 42.
So I started really getting involved when I was 30.
Oh, gosh, maybe 30.
Let's see.
12 years ago.
Oh, that's a long time.
31.
I got involved.
I was a member of the Republican Party and would go to some meetings at times in my late 20s, but the meetings were not real convenient because they were during the day and not in the afternoon.
Anyway, when Ben Carson ran for president, I was his county lead, and my husband was the county right beside.
And so that's my first taste of politics was then...
And then I just, you know, qualified to run for U.S. Senate in 2020.
And I just got thrown into it.
So think about you at 17 and how much more you're going to understand and be awake.
Because we can indoctrinate people into the establishment and teach them how they should act and how they should walk and what they should do.
Or we can raise up those that will be fighters and patriots and protect the Constitution.
And so that's what I want to do.
Now I understand and I'm awake and I want other people to come into the fold.
I want to talk about your relationship with Jesus because you definitely have a relationship with Him.
You don't just say, I'm a Christian and I'm a good girl.
You love the Lord and that's evident and that's why that passion was sparked inside of you about churches being shut down.
Because you love Jesus and you want to be in His will and do the right thing.
And so can you talk a little bit about your testimony and your walk with the Lord and maybe even touch on being a teenager and what that's like with people who might want to make fun of you or not see things the way you do and just talk a little bit about your relationship with the Lord if you don't mind.
Oh my goodness, I would love that.
That's such a good question, Miss Candice.
So, I mean, I got baptized at like five.
I've always believed in the Lord, but I wouldn't say I've always had a really strong relationship with the Lord.
As I grew up, it's just going to sound so weird, but politics actually, through that, I grew closer to the Lord.
I know that sounds kind of weird, but it's so true.
Because, you know, up until, you know, 2020, I thought I had a relationship with the Lord.
And, you know, I would pray.
I would read my Bible.
But I wouldn't say until, like, the recent years, it has become so real to me.
He has become the realest thing in my life.
The only thing that I can truly count on and truly put my hope and my trust in.
Because honestly, the more and more you meet the powerful people, the people of big status, you realize, oh, okay, they're just people.
We shouldn't be idolizing them.
You know, President Trump is awesome.
He did some awesome things, but he's not our savior.
He's not our lord.
You know, we don't have eternal hope in President Trump or DeSantis or Nikki Haley or anybody in politics.
We have to put our hope in the Lord.
And, you know, we're always going to be let down by people.
A lot of times we're going to be let down by opportunities.
But the Lord is never, ever going to fail us.
And just through politics and just like as I've gotten older, I've definitely grown stronger in my relationship with the Lord.
I just want to live for Him and, you know, If that means staying in politics, and obviously I think all Christians are called to be in politics, but I hope that in politics I can be a lot for him because like you talked about, we don't just want to be raising up a generation to be a part of the establishment or just to vote red because I have seen so many of people who I thought were my friends who are in the conservative movement or they're Republicans and they're young people.
I've seen so many of them Just come so far away from the Lord and so far away from morality, even as they put on the title conservatives, they're still pro-LGBTQ. They're still pro, you know, some abortion.
And that's just so wrong.
I'm not here to just push, you know, vote red, vote for Trump.
You know, we need Trump back in law.
Of course, all those are great things.
I'm not opposed to anyone voting red at all.
That is not what I'm saying.
But we definitely need to be raising up a generation that is bold for Jesus because that's what our country needs.
We need a revival.
Without the Lord, we are hopeless.
There is no hope for our country if we do not see a move of God, if we do not see revival.
And so that's what's really just super, super important to me.
And that's why I think it's super important that we get my generation involved in this and that we're not afraid to speak out.
And I've been...
I've been really thinking a lot about this lately, not to go on like a mini tangent and mini rant, but I've been thinking a lot about this lately, Ms.
Candace, because for so long I have just pushed conservatism and voting, you know, red.
And it's not that I think that's inherently wrong at all.
I think we definitely should be doing that.
But we also...
We need to not be afraid to talk about our faith and to bring our faith into politics because ultimately it's not my politics that dictate my faith, it's my faith that dictates my politics.
So that's really what's been on my heart lately and why I believe it's so, so crucial.
To America's future, that we get my generation involved and we, oh, I'm praying that my generation just is on fire for the Lord.
And we, you know, we have a John the Baptist anointing.
I'm excited.
I really am.
I'm sorry, that was really long, but I'm not hopeless at all, whatsoever.
No, I was taking notes so I didn't forget.
I had two things I wanted to comment on.
So one thing was when you talked about drawing closer to God, the same thing happened to me.
Whenever I listened to what he told me to do and I ran for U.S. Senate, I thought it was the Democrats and I really...
I was angry with them, and I thought, I'm fighting them.
And God showed me, no, you're fighting the establishment, and it's Republicans and Democrats.
And most of the Republicans are worse because they lie.
Democrats say what they're going to do, and the Republicans lie.
And so I started hearing his voice.
And before I would speak, Len Wood, actually, he was a mentor of mine, a good friend.
Len told me, he said, you pray for the Lord to put his words in your mouth.
And he said, I do that every time before I speak and he will.
He'll order your steps.
And so I do.
Every time before I speak, I just say, Holy Spirit, you put your words in my mouth and you help it to be about you and not me.
And I'm telling you, Caroline, I feel closer to the Lord when I am speaking, when I am praying for people, you know, at events and laying hands on them.
I'm encouraging them through posts and messages and being with His people.
It's God's people.
God chose Israel as His chosen people, but America chose God.
We are special to Him.
We were founded on Jesus Christ.
I know that...
When you're in his will, whether that is being a stay-at-home mom or whether that's being a exec and a CEO or whether that's in politics and wherever that is, when you're in his perfect will, you're closer to him.
You hear his voice better.
You understand scripture better.
It's like it illuminates for you.
And that's what happened to me.
And so when you were saying that, I was thinking that's exactly how I've been describing it.
And it's a similar experience.
And then when you made a comment about You know, revival and what needs to happen and we need godly leaders.
Ryan, my husband, he's been talking several times.
He's been at several different churches and he was talking, actually spoke to the NAACP this week and was telling them, you know, Israel had God as their As their king, as their leader.
And they wanted a real king.
They wanted a manly king, an earthly king.
And he said, are you sure?
Is this what you want?
And he had the prophet Samuel that was put in there.
After every king went through, they got worse and worse and started taking their money.
You had to pay tithe.
You're under the authority of the king.
And so the only way for a country to be free is to be under the leadership and King of Jesus Christ.
And so our country is founded on Jesus Christ.
But if we don't elect people who embody Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit, then we're not going to have God lead our country.
The only way to get God to lead America is to elect people who are public servants and have the Holy Spirit inside of them.
And listen to God, then God will truly lead America.
And so Ryan's been speaking on that.
So when you said that, I thought that's exactly what Ryan's been talking about.
I love it.
Man, oh my goodness.
That is so good, Ms.
Candice.
I think it's so cool that you also grew closer to the Lord through being bold about your faith.
Yeah.
No matter, you know, where you're at.
But you're such an example.
Well, what about what about school?
What about, you know, peer pressure or even on social media?
Because, you know, you have a big following.
What about pressure from Generation Z? Do you feel that you have you feel that stepping out boldly or how does that play out for you?
So actually, I have it really easy in that department.
I left public school in 2019, so that was just kind of perfect.
And I've done online school ever since.
So, you know, my friends that have stuck around, they obviously don't mind.
They cheer me on it, and they're great.
But...
I do have some friends that disagree with me and they just know if, you know, if they bring up politics, I'm definitely going to put the hammer down and we're going to start praying over them.
I've done that before, but they stay friends with me.
So thank you, Jesus.
Hopefully we'll be making a difference there.
But so...
I'm sorry.
What about social media?
What about social media?
Okay, I'm sorry.
I was just thinking, did you say?
Ask two questions at once.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
That was my bad.
But social media.
It's so strange, Miss Candice, because I was talking to Mama about this yesterday.
She asked me, she's like, do the comments never get to you?
They're so mean.
I don't like my mama.
I tell her, you need to stop reading my comments.
I quit reading them.
My mama does the same thing, Caroline.
She reads the comments.
My mama quit reading the comments.
It enrages my family so much more than it does me.
Because I'm like, not really.
It sounds kind of weird.
And I'm sure you make it relate to this.
Like, I'm sure you can from what you said earlier.
I'm kind of numb to it.
I don't really think about it as in, like, they're a person.
I think about it as in, oh, we are fighting a spiritual war.
These people are from the devil.
These people are trying to get me to shut up.
I'm not going to shut up.
Lord, you know, make these demons flee.
Because they're truly, I mean, I get some bad DMs, and I'm sure you do too, you know, threatening me, scrutinizing my looks, and it's just like, when they can't attack you for the facts, and they can't attack you for the truth, because there's only one truth, and that's God's truth, then they're gonna come up, you know, they're gonna come for every other aspect of you, so it doesn't really bother me, and I've had, honestly, so many people who Reach out, and especially young people, and just say, hey, I love what you're doing.
Hey, thank you for being bold.
I can't.
At my school, I'm scared.
I'd lose my friends, but thank you for doing it.
And that's what just drives me to keep going and to be more intentional about it, you know, in the last couple weeks and moving forward.
It really, the people on social media don't drain me as much as they energize me to keep going.
Because, I mean, look around.
There's not really many of us speaking out, and it's really sad.
It is.
You're right.
It does its motivation.
It pours fuel on the fire, in my opinion.
It makes me want to push more because I'm like, okay, well...
And I either think they're a bot and it's not a real person or either we're fighting against...
Powers in darkness and high places.
We're not fighting against flesh and blood.
And we know that because the word tells us that.
And you're exactly right.
And that's a lot of wisdom in your little 17-year-old body.
But that's true.
And so we don't fight against flesh and blood.
And it's hard because sometimes I want to punch people in the face.
Oh, yes, ma'am.
It's hard, you know?
I definitely have those moments, too.
I got South Georgia redneck.
I'm like, I want to punch you.
Wait, no, Lord, no, I don't.
Yeah, I got South Georgia redneck that deep in there somewhere, you know, and you're like, your mama should have spanked you.
That's what's wrong with you.
You didn't get to spank you.
People that are like, I'm going to come to your house.
I do respond to them.
I'm like, my daddy has guns.
He probably don't want to.
It's probably not good for you.
Did you see Jesus guns and babies?
I don't think you want to do it.
Yes, ma'am.
If you see me, I'm carrying.
So that's probably not a wise idea.
Yeah, I wore Laura Loomer's shirt.
Donald Trump did nothing wrong.
And we were in Fernandina Beach and this crazy woman looked at me and was like, did you see her shirt?
And I looked at her, had my pocketbook.
I said, yeah, I'm carrying too.
Like, I have the shirt on, I'm carrying.
Just know that.
I was like, I don't know what she thought.
Other people were standing around there like, I love your shirt.
I love your shirt.
But people, they're not bold enough to wear it, but they love it because they know what it says is like, he's speaking for us and we're going to be free.
And it's not, like you said earlier, it's not about him.
Jesus Christ is king.
But the Lord anointed President Trump and he won twice.
And it's about the fact that our country is failing.
Our economy is about to I feel like a made-up world with Israel.
They're hurting innocent people because they want to print more money.
Because they know the economy is floundering and they're thinking, let's print more money.
We don't have their buy-in with Ukraine now.
Let's go to Israel because the Christians will be all for it.
And let's print some more money before their economy shuts down.
That's what I feel like is going on.
And it's sad.
Me thinking about baby's heads getting chopped off makes me want to chop somebody's head off.
I can't stand that.
It makes me so angry.
I'm like, how in the world could you cut off an innocent, precious baby's head?
That is the most sick thing to think about.
It's just disturbing.
It's so evil.
They're so evil.
Evil.
Evil.
It's just like child molesters, you know?
It's like, why waste time?
Just string them up.
I mean, it's a whole sickness I can't understand and depravity in somebody.
Joe Biden.
Joe Biden.
Yeah.
Like, don't, like, how would you, how are you that twisted and sick to hurt somebody?
You know?
Like, and take somebody's innocence.
Like, what makes, what in your brain would you ever, would ever you think that's okay?
I don't understand.
Yeah.
These people are absolutely psycho.
I mean, I was looking last night at my little sister, after I'd read that 40 babies just had their heads chopped off, and she's three years old, and I'm just thinking, how sick and twisted and evil would you have to be?
I mean, they're just straight up evil.
Yeah, it is.
It's straight up evil.
It's like, you know, human trafficking and all the other things that's going on in our world.
And people are worried about frivolous stuff and worried about trying to have gender change surgeries and ruin children's lives instead of protecting humanity.
And these are the people that say that they protect humanity and it's us that don't care about humanity.
I'm like, it's all so backwards.
It's like an upside down backwards universe.
Exactly.
It totally is.
And so many of these issues should be human rights issues, not Republican or Democrat.
She's like, we should all agree that it's not, if we believe in the science, it's not okay to murder babies in the womb.
It's not okay to murder babies anyway, but it's just, it's truly, we are truly facing spiritual battles.
God's already won the war, but we are fighting spiritual battles for sure.
Yeah, and we know how it ends, and we end in heaven, so if they come to try to get my guns, they'll get my bullets first, and I'm sure they'll shoot me, but I'll be in heaven, so it'll be okay.
Threat me with eternity, all you want.
Yeah, threat me with eternity, whatever, but we're gonna, it's good, we're gonna go ahead, and we're gonna stand for Jesus, and we're gonna stand for freedom.
I'm not real good at being controlled and manipulated, so I'm not gonna probably be real good as a As a communist in a communist country, we might as well go ahead and push back now.
Oh yeah, for sure.
So what do you think about the presidential election coming up?
What are your thoughts?
I mean, I know you and I have talked about elections before and how we feel about that, but what do you see coming, Caroline?
And your peers, like the ones that are involved in politics that are Zoomers, like what are y'all saying?
Sure.
You know, I see so much online.
I've seen, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy is on TikTok, and you have so many young people that tend to like him, okay?
Now, I could give us an in-depth analysis of, like, the Republican debates and, you know, who I think is better in this department and this department, but at the end of the day, President Trump's got the nomination.
He's got the Republican nomination.
His mugshots.
It sealed the deal.
I mean, it put the hammer in the coffin of every other Republican candidate's race.
I mean, I've met Governor Ron DeSantis out of the options, aside from President Trump.
He's definitely my favorite.
He's a really good man.
I believe he's a man of God.
I don't believe he deserves all the bashing that he's gotten.
I mean, he's a proven conservative.
He has a great track record.
But President Trump's got the nomination.
And unless something goes horribly wrong, we should definitely count on him being on the ballot next November.
I'm excited.
I'm going to cast my first vote for him.
Isn't that awesome?
You get to vote for President Trump?
Yes, ma'am.
I'm so thrilled about it.
That's so cool.
Well, you know, Ronald Reagan, he was elected president the year I was born.
And I think, you know, you think back, he was like, looked at as the great president before President Trump.
And so I was born in 1980, and that's when he won.
So I think that's kind of cool.
That's so cool.
Yeah, and I voted for losers for a while because, you know, Republicans were losing to the Clintons and other people when I first started voting.
So at least you're going to get to vote for President Trump.
And they're probably still your vote, but hey, you get to cast it.
I know.
And now I have the same rot as a dead person.
Let's go.
I'm so excited.
All these canceled voters, right?
They just keep talking about reactivating on when the voter rolls.
Oh, I'm very concerned about that.
I don't think the media has talked about that nearly enough.
I mean, as you would expect, they didn't in 2020.
What do you think about that, Ms.
Candace?
Like, what are your thoughts?
How are we going to have a fair and free election when I don't believe the elections are even fair and free in the state of Georgia, right next door to us?
Well, we can't win the White House without Georgia.
And Georgia has the most corrupt elections in the country.
So we have an issue with the voting machines, with the QR code that's unconstitutional and lawful.
And it's been deemed unlawful by Judge Amy Totenberg, who's a federal court judge.
You can't read your voter intent.
You can't read, you know, your votes are in the QR code.
It's not supposed to be on the ballot.
So that needs to be removed.
But then you've also got the issue with the BDMs, the ballot marking device.
Georgia's the only state in the union that uses touchscreen balloting.
And that was done.
These machines were created for disabled individuals, not for the general populace.
But yet we're all voting on them.
So we don't go in and mark a ballot.
And even though, like, Arizona, they handmark a ballot, they scan and use the voting machine tabulator, but we actually use this touchscreen, print a receipt.
We never have a ballot.
The ballot's on the screen.
We never actually touch a physical ballot.
It prints a receipt with a QR code that's unlawful, and that's what our ballots contain.
It's ridiculous.
That is crazy.
Outside of that, we have a whole voter roll issue where we had hundreds of thousands of canceled voters.
People died.
People moved.
And they were reactivated in 2020 and in 2022.
And then they were deactivated.
They were voted on and then deactivated.
We have tabulators.
We've pulled them.
We've checked them.
We've checked against the rolls.
We've gone to these voters' homes and people answer the door and ask for someone that was a voter there in 2022 and 2020.
And they're like, He's been dead for four years.
So we have a mess.
We have a hot mess.
And, you know, we're fighting every day.
We're going to board of election meetings, board of commissioner meetings.
We're going to our state house, our state senators.
We're going to the board of election meeting in Atlanta.
And we're constantly hammering away and trying, you know, begging, pleading, demanding, writing letters, emails, calls, everything we can do to say, listen, we want you to secure voting.
We want fair legal voting in Georgia.
Georgia is very red.
It's very conservative.
It's not purple.
But they have made it a complete debacle.
That's what they've done.
It's sickening.
I guess the only good thing I could say that's come out of that is you guys are a lot more fired up in Georgia than we are in Alabama.
And I think it's because you guys have been on the verge of losing your freedom in Georgia a lot more than we have in Alabama.
We have a bunch of rhino politicians here in Alabama and no one's fired up and nobody really seems to care.
But over in Georgia...
Man, I feel like there are so many strong conservatives, you being one of them, but I'm so glad.
Well, you'll get there.
If they start doing what ours did, and they start saying they're a Republican, but they're voting Democrat all the time, and they're letting our vote be hijacked, then you'll see Alabama get fired up, too.
I just think they're a little behind us in their full outright CCP agenda push they've done, like they have in Georgia.
They've just sold us out to China.
It's the craziest thing ever here in this state.
It's so sad, too.
I mean, you guys are a southern state.
Come on.
We're the Bible Belt.
We're right next door.
Right.
Well, let's talk about Vivek for a second.
So he, with me, I like him as far as what he's saying, but he doesn't believe in Jesus.
And so, you know, I have a problem with that.
And people say, well, you won't, you know, every president doesn't have to be a Christian.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
We're a Christian nation.
That's who we are.
And so if you're not a Christian, I'm not going to vote for you for president.
That's just the way it is.
And so we should have learned with Obama.
And if people didn't learn then, then I don't know what to hit them over the head with.
But, you know, he's not an option.
He's non-negotiable.
He's not an option.
And Nikki Haley, who was on the debate stage talking about abortion, and she came out of her little account at the quote she did and her little women power quote she did.
I don't give a rip.
I want to keep her from being on the ballot in Georgia because she's not, to me, constitutionally, she was not a citizen by the Constitution standards.
So there's an issue there with that.
She shouldn't even be allowed to run for president.
Mm-hmm.
Yes, ma'am.
Both of those.
You want to talk about Vivek and Nikki Haley?
Yeah, let's do it.
Okay.
So, starting off, you know, I didn't want to be too critical of either of them.
And what I would have had to say after the very first debate was it would be definitely probably different than I would have to say today.
You know, I've been Team Trump since the beginning.
Now, I don't agree with everything he says.
I don't agree with what he just said the other day about Governor DeSantis with abortion.
We could talk about that another time.
With Vivek, so, I mean, his hands are all up in Big Pharma.
That guy, there's just something about him.
And me and my dad were talking about this yesterday.
You know, I really think, like, neither of us have liked him since the beginning, since we just heard him talk.
And I heard you say, you know, he says all the right things.
But man, I mean, maybe it's just discernment.
I don't know.
But there is something about him I do not like at all.
And like you said, I mean, he's a Hindu.
He's not a follower of Christ.
And I said that one time and then someone got mad and they're like, well, you know, you don't know about Trump's relationship with the Lord.
I don't know about Trump's relationship with the Lord.
But at least he believes in God.
At least he's a Christian.
You know, Like you said, we're built on Christian principles.
And if you're not going to at least stand up for that, then there's no way I'm going to vote for you.
And Vivek Ramaswamy, I mean, honestly, he started off in the first debate, you know, I would say probably up here.
He was doing good.
He was saying all the right things.
He seemed cool and calm.
And confident.
And then, I mean, at this point, honestly, I feel like he is just arrogant.
He's like a little bratty rich kid, and he thinks we're supposed to vote for him, and he thinks a lot more people are behind him than actually are.
I feel like that's the case for a lot of them.
They think that, like, half of America, you know, half of the Republicans are going to vote for them.
No one cares, like, especially about Mike Pence.
I'm a big no on Mike Pence.
He's like the biggest disappointment ever.
Oh man, I used to love him.
Me too.
So, so sad.
But with Nikki Haley, her female empowerment crap.
Man, she reminds me of Hillary Clinton sometimes.
She gets on my biggest nerves.
I'm like, girl, you fixing to say I'm with her?
Like, what's the deal?
Exactly.
If you want something said, ask a man.
If you want something done, ask a woman.
If you want something done, ask President Trump.
But I'm not a fan of either of theirs.
I wouldn't say that everything they've said and everything they've done is bad.
I would definitely vote for either of them over Joe Biden, but I'm certainly not a fan of either of theirs.
And I mean, let's look at it.
Neither of them have a shot at the nomination at all.
I don't really even know why they're running.
I don't know if Nikki Haley wants to have a position in the President's Cabinet.
I don't even see her being Trump's running mate.
I know Vivek said he's not even up to doing that.
I don't know.
He ain't getting it even if he wanted it.
No way.
No way.
And, like, what kind of...
That doesn't even sound American, which neither does Obama.
Ramaswamy.
President Ramaswamy.
Well, and him saying he's not up for that.
Why?
Because you think you have to be the top dog or you can't serve?
I mean, no, that's ridiculous.
It's like, I ran for governor, I went back, and I'm serving in the first district over 15 counties, and, you know...
Serving on the GOP board.
But somebody said, why would you do that?
That's degrading.
I'm like, degrading?
No, it's not.
I'm serving the people.
I don't care if I'm serving in public education like I do every day or I'm serving the people in an unpaid volunteer role.
It's not about that.
It's about fighting for freedom.
But that's what happens to politicians.
That shows you where his heart is.
It's about himself.
It's not about the people.
It's not public servant and it's not humility.
That's so good.
And I commend you so much every day for actually going out and doing the work.
You don't just talk the talk, but you walk the walk.
And I know your people, and I'm so grateful that you're doing that and you're taking a stand.
And actually putting some money where your mouth is.
Yeah, I mean, you put your time and your energy where your heart is.
We've got to push back.
We've got to get fair legal voting.
That's the main thing in Georgia that I'm focused on.
Although I do want to quit killing babies.
We did overturn Roe, and so I don't know why they just keep perpetuating this heartbeat, Bill, that I haven't saved any babies.
What about Alabama?
Did y'all pass anything to do away with abortion?
We were one of the first states after Roe v.
Wade was overturned.
We have banned abortion completely.
You'll be sent to jail if you get an abortion.
There's not anywhere where you can get an abortion anymore.
I'm so grateful.
They just came out of the state line of Georgia and murdered babies.
I know.
That is so sick.
So sick.
And honestly, I read earlier this year that there was actually a Planned Parenthood that stayed open months after Roe v.
Wade was overturned in Montgomery.
So thankfully they got that shut down.
There's probably some stuff that isn't online.
Underground.
Yes, man.
It was just sickening.
I mean, I'd love to do away with evil entirely, but you just can't.
But thankfully, we have made some big steps in the right direction.
I'm really grateful.
But y'all need to definitely be doing something in Georgia.
I mean, especially considering you guys have a strong conservative governor.
Come on!
He passed a heartbeat bill.
That was such an accomplishment.
Okay.
Well, if you don't have the heartbeat, you can kill the baby.
It's not if it has a heartbeat.
It's like you have to take the sonogram to hear the heartbeat, not to get the abortion.
It doesn't make sense.
So, tell me about your, about college, about what you want to do as a career.
Like, Caroline, where are you, where's your goals?
Like, what's your focus?
So, Ms.
Taylor, I mean, my plans are subject to change according to God's will, according to wherever He leads me.
I mean, I'll follow Him.
Like, here I am, Lord, send me.
But I gotta say, when I got into politics, I was like, I want to be a press secretary.
I want to go work on the hill.
Maybe run for Congress or run for governor one day or be a state senator or something.
And the Lord has done away with that.
I don't have any desire to do that.
I mean, if he ever led me to, I would love to serve the people of Alabama.
I love my home state.
But my dream is not to be a politician at all.
I don't, you know, I don't glamorize being a politician and I really wouldn't want to.
I would do it because the Lord led me because I truly do love my state and love the people here.
But I have to say, when I think about like long term, what I really, really want to do I would love to just, you know, have a talk show and do commentary.
And I think that's really important to talk with some guests.
And I would love to have you on.
I think that would be so much fun.
But in the long term, I don't really just want to be a voice for the conservatives and just be a voice for the right wing.
I would love to...
Sounds crazy, but I'd love to be a revivalist on what Sean Foyt does going around to, you know, every state in the country leading worship.
I've been writing songs for years since I was younger, and, you know, I never planned to do anything with it, but I think that lately the Lord has just really been pressing in on me.
You know, you don't have to get out of politics as a Christian.
Actually, I think you're supposed to press in a little bit more.
And press into the truth and sharing the truth a little bit more.
So any outlet that he leads me to to share the truth, I want to use my life to do this.
I'll go wherever I'll do anything.
I know that's really vague, but that's just kind of what's on my heart lately.
Of course, it's all subject to change, but that's...
I told my mom like two weeks ago.
So this is very recent.
I was like, Mom, I think I'm going to like be a revivalist and, you know, be a conservative.
This is, you know, my parents, they're like, they're very supportive.
They know I have crazy big dreams.
They're like, just go for it.
It's fine.
All right.
Revival's coming.
Amen!
I'm so excited.
What a time to be alive.
We're living in Bible times.
That's right.
And so you're going to be able to go sing songs and lead worship and do that.
I didn't even know you led worship.
You know, my husband, he's writing a Christian album.
He's almost done with it.
But he plays every instrument.
He's led worship for years.
And so he actually has this really cool song.
I'll show it to you after we get off air.
But he has a really cool song that God gave him this vision one day of Adam as a baby.
And so like that God created earth and Eden for his children.
And so it was like Adam is a baby and God was like holding Adam.
And then, you know, he was holding him and he had Eve and then he was growing them up in the garden.
And so, you know, he said, if you think about it like that, we're his children.
And we think about Adam being a man and Eve being a woman, but we're God's children.
And so, anyway, this is a really cool song.
And it's like, you'll feel the Holy Spirit right whenever he starts singing it.
But music is so important.
Yeah, it's so important.
Music is so important.
And worship is more important than anything else we do, I feel like, even probably more than praying.
Yeah, worship is stronger than our legislation.
Worship is our weapon.
I mean, at the end of the day.
That's right.
And so, actually, when you're a Bibleist, you're going to be a politician, too, because you're going to change government.
You're going to break strongholds, and you're going to change the atmosphere.
So I think it goes hand in hand.
You know, Jesus was crucified because of politics.
Yes, ma'am.
And the people love to not talk about that.
They leave that out a lot.
Yeah, they do.
They say, well, separation of church and state.
Well, that was never said in the Constitution, and that's not true.
We don't want church being the Church of England telling us what to do, but we are the church and we run the state.
Amen.
That's what America was founded on.
It's crazy how far we've come from that.
But, like, Ms.
Candace, I'm just tired of, and this is totally separate from, like, you know, exposing corruption.
Like, Ephesians tells us we're supposed to expose corruption, but I'm so tired of just all of these talking heads declaring death over our nation.
You know, they're all hopeless.
So many of them, if you read their books, they're depressed.
And I'm like, I've been given the antidote.
We've been given the antidote to evil.
And we're just, we're not doing anything about it.
And I'm like, I really don't want to just, you know, walk according to, you know, whatever the right wing talking heads say and let that be my life's anthem and my Bible because that's not it at all.
That's right.
And we have power of life and death in our tongue.
And so you're going to eat the fruit and you're going to frame the world with your thoughts and your words.
And so it's so important that, yeah, we're realists and we speak truth and we don't worry about offending people.
We just speak truth.
We speak truth and love and we move forward.
But the truth is the written word and we win and he's with us and he goes before us and he doesn't leave us.
He doesn't forsake us and he holds us up with his righteous right hand.
And, you know, how powerful are we?
We are seated at the right hand of the father in heaven.
How powerful are we?
And so, you know, the enemies are nothing.
And Ryan was talking the other day.
He said, you know, he was meditating and praying and trying to finish writing a song.
And he said he was thinking about Satan.
And when we actually see Lucifer, he's going to be such a nothing.
It's going to be like, that's it?
Like, that's all?
You're such a distraction.
We're so powerful.
He hates us because he can't be us.
He couldn't be human.
He wasn't created in the image of God.
He hates us because we have a direct line with Jesus.
Actually, the Holy Spirit can come and live in our body and talk to us and commune with us.
He hates that because he can't have it.
Absolutely.
Like you said, I completely agree.
It's time for us to start walking in authority.
We need to stop acting like we're losing.
It may seem like we're losing battles, but we haven't lost the war.
That's right.
Tell me how you get content.
I know you watch Tucker, but what do you go to for news and what do you go to as far as getting content to put out on your media?
So, I mean, I just, I follow a ton of Christians, a ton of conservatives, and honestly, I just, I keep up with everything pretty much on Twitter.
I just got onto Twitter recently.
I was late to that game.
But I go, I'm kind of addicted to Twitter.
I love just reading everything.
You have to be really, you know, you have to use discernment.
You have to sort through things.
But I read them a lot.
I read Newsmax a lot.
I read...
Um, Fox News sometimes, but I try not to watch Fox News as much anymore.
Just, you know, after they fired Dan Bongino and Tucker, I was kind of done with them.
But that's really it.
I mean, also, I read the Wall Street Journal.
I read the op-eds from there, but I mean, that's pretty much it.
I try not to just become overly consumed by it and only read it for, you know, like 15, like 20 minutes a day.
Not, not super crazy.
And so then TikTok, you get some from TikTok too.
I get stuff from TikTok, too, but I don't really count that as news because a lot of that is, you know, a lot of it's just opinions and conspiracy theorists.
Like, we were talking, like, for real conspiracy theorists.
Like, we were talking about earlier about the, before we started recording, like, the national alert system thing.
And on TikTok, I mean, people were just going crazy.
Like you said, they're acting like the world was ending.
And so, I- Because she was going to Six Flags on that day and driving to Atlanta with a school trip.
And she was like, Mama, look at this.
I'm like, Marley, listen.
Holy Spirit has not told me that we need to not let you go to Six Flags about the Disney World.
And so you can go to Six Flags and he's going to protect you.
And she's like, I know, but this is crazy.
I'm like, do not listen to that.
It's fine.
Yeah, for sure.
So yeah, everything, I mean, take everything with a grain of salt.
You can't accept news as truth.
Like, you're gonna have to go do your own research and think for yourself.
Don't let anybody tell you what to think, but I just, I kind of read a little bit of everything, minus CNN. Minus CNN. Yeah, CNN, they actually had a Reporter, an executive editor or somebody, reach out to me, producer, asking me last week for an interview.
They were doing a series on the fall of the Georgia Guidestones and asked me to come on and answer some questions.
I said, ask them to me right here.
I don't have time to interview me.
They didn't respond.
And so I'm like, you know, the Lord struck them with lightning and they fell.
And so they actually won fail and they could have replaced the one.
And then they ended up tearing them down via bulldozer.
So it doesn't really make sense.
It's almost like they wanted them to come down.
And so if they were so precious to them, then why don't you replace the one?
Why don't you tear them all down?
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
That never made sense to me.
But I'm glad they came down.
I'm glad God struck them with lightning because they were demonic and they had a new world order and they, you know, wanted to cut our population down to 500 million people or whatever.
And they're absolutely.
It's that whole thing.
Oh, I don't know.
I'm sorry.
500,000 people.
And so it was just, it was crazy.
They were nuts.
And so anyway, they, you know, anything they can do, anything they can do to cause a disruption and, and be against God, they want to do it.
So in the news, they just want to make people mad.
You know, they're not here really to inform us or encourage us or equip us.
They're here to make us mad because that's how they make their money.
And since it's October and Halloween's all everywhere, I'm just curious with you on TikTok because I hear a lot of teenagers say this, that...
There's a lot of witchcrafty stuff and crystals and spells and all this stuff that'll just show up on your for you page on TikTok.
It's like you don't ever look at it and all of a sudden it's in your face.
Do you see a lot of that too?
Oh yeah, I see a lot of that on Instagram and TikTok.
I mean, just all these...
It's mostly live streams.
I know that sounds really weird, but it'll just come up on your...
For you, Paige, and it's so strange.
I've seen more furries on my TikTok for you, Paige, than anything else.
You know for a fact I've never looked up furries unless it was like to make fun of them or something.
Furries love to come at me, girl.
I said, we ain't gonna have furries in Georgia.
We ain't gonna have fairy tales.
We ain't gonna have reality.
And they did not like that.
Oh, it's creepy.
But yes, ma'am, I've definitely seen that.
And it's so strange.
It's almost like it's spiritual.
And targeted.
Oh, they're targeting our generation.
I doubt it goes up, you know, on older people's free pages.
I bet it probably does.
I bet the crap doesn't probably show up quite as much as it does on our pages because they are truly, truly trying to disrupt our generation.
It's so sad.
Yeah, I think that, you know, it's like they want to...
We perpetuate this narrative of supernatural.
And it's all counterfeit if it's not Holy Spirit.
And so it's like all the crystals and the Ouija boards and the tarot cards and the astral projecting and just straight up witchcraft.
It's everywhere.
And teenagers are searching for the supernatural because we're supernatural creatures in a physical body.
And so they're searching for that.
And instead of finding it with the Lord, they're finding it in witchcraft.
It's so sad, really, because there's people who don't have parents and they're not brought up in church.
They don't know any better and they get involved in the occult and it kills them, literally.
Yeah, for sure.
Absolutely.
I mean, like I say, I've been asked, you know, what is the biggest problem Gen Z faces?
And it's that, like you said, we face an identity crisis.
We don't know what to believe.
We just want to be a part of something.
And, you know, a lot of us actually do know what we believe.
We just don't know why we believe it, especially on the left.
They don't have reasoning behind what they believe.
I've noticed that with any of my liberal friends, liberal family members.
They know what they believe, but they have no idea why they believe it.
And so that has been, I think, a huge issue for our generation, is that, especially the ones that are not brought up in church, especially those who have no grasp on morality because they don't know God's truth, they don't know the Word of God, they are just, they're facing that identity crisis every single day.
They're counting on this to tell them who they are, who they should be, and who they were created as and born as.
And that's, I mean, that's only going to end a disaster, and we're seeing that every day.
We're seeing the The after effects of, for years, our generation, Gen Z being told, and millennials being told who they are.
And, you know, everything's based on their feelings and what they feel like.
I mean, if you're a cat, if you feel like a cat, you're a cat.
It's just crazy.
Yeah, use a litter box.
That's cool.
But, you know, the identity thing is correct.
And our identity, if you don't know who you are, And whose you are, then you don't have anything.
And so it's all sinking sand, you know?
And it's sad.
But that's one thing.
As a counselor, we try to get them to recognize who they are.
It's really hard.
It's a challenge.
You're exactly right.
I think Generation Z are floundering around the ones that are not a Christian because there are a lot of strong Christians in Generation Z. There's really been a solid base of them, I think, that are more passionate about the Lord than millennials.
But then you have people totally off and not understanding the Christianity at all and the relationship with the Lord.
They're just off in their own abyss, really.
For sure.
And almost, I thought it was interesting how you said you think there's more, you know, strong young Christians rising up out of our generation than the generations that came before us.
And like we talked about earlier on the show, Ms.
Candice, I think that's because it is so in our face.
I think it's because we are seeing our freedom, not only in our country, but like our relationship with the Lord.
We're seeing our religious liberty, our religious freedom under attack in a ways that generations before us really didn't see or wasn't so in our face about.
So I think that's what's really, really set Gen Z on fire.
And I hope the fire continues to spread much, much further.
You're right, because apathy and complacency, maybe with my generation and Generation X or whatever was before me, I think it's because we just took it for granted.
We were busy raising our families and paying taxes and working, and they were robbing us, and these people we elected, they figured out how to cheat and keep themselves in office and make a bunch of money and pass a lot of things that we didn't believe in and ruined our country.
And so you're right, now that it's in your face, it's like, no, I'm not going to settle for that.
Well, tell everybody how to get a hold of you, how to find you.
Absolutely.
So, you can...
I post a lot on Instagram.
You can find me on Instagram at carolinejoyus.
You can go to carolinejoyusofficial.com.
I'm probably going to be changing the name of that soon.
Surprisingly, I couldn't even get my first and my middle name for the website.
But I'm going to be changing it to Proudly Free soon because that's the name of my new show.
It's Proudly Free with Caroline Joyce.
You'll be able to find that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and you can also send me an email if you want, carolinejoyce at gmail.com if you have any questions or you want to talk about anything.
I love reading my emails from people and that's honestly one of my favorite things to do.
But yeah, that's pretty much everywhere.
It's Caroline Joyce.
Pretty much everywhere.
Twitter, TikTok, everything.
And you've had some posts go viral.
Which one is your favorite that's gone viral, Caroline?
The one that went super viral, it was actually, I lost a bet with my mom.
It's funny.
And that's why I made that video.
She's like, I don't know.
It was really dumb.
We did this in like February this year, I think.
I don't know.
But this video, I mean, it has almost 4 million views.
And...
like you have to use this sound my mom found this song it's an older song and it's like don't know much about history don't know much biology and uh i made it like talking about democrats and mom's like make a reel about this and i'm like oh i don't really want to do that and she's like okay well if it doesn't go viral in like a week just take it down just you know it was just dumb and And I made the reel and it just blew up.
I mean, it has over 200,000 shares, which is the funniest thing to me because I didn't even want to make that reel.
But out of my favorite things that have gone wrong.
It shows you listen to your mama.
Yes, ma'am.
Mama knows best.
You always listen to your parents, kids.
Well, not always, but I'm always listening to my parents.
The ones who've gone viral, they're all really dumb.
I hate to say that, but the ones that get the most traction and the most hits are always the ones that have over a million hits.
Me too, like Flat Earth or the Georgia Guidestones.
Exactly.
And babies.
It's like, why do y'all pick one thing and that's what goes viral?
I know.
It's so funny.
And, like, so many people will share it, too.
But I think probably...
I had one a couple weeks ago hit over, like, 300,000 views.
And I know that's not viral, but I have to say it's probably my favorite because in it I said something that I think has more substance than the stupid videos that are just proving a point.
And it says, like...
This is the, what does it say?
I should know this.
It's like, this is the moment in history, basically, where if we do not do something, we will lose our freedom.
Oh, it's, you know how the saying, it's, we live in a republic, if you can keep it.
Well, we're at the, if you can keep it moment.
And I had thousands of people share.
And I had like hundreds of thousands of views.
But that's probably my favorite because it is so true.
We're at the if you can keep it moment.
And if we don't do something, we're not going to keep our country.
And like I said, I don't believe that's just going to come from voting the right people into office, especially with unfair elections.
But from really...
Really praying for our country and worshiping and being involved and being engaged right where our feet are planted, right here in our communities, in small towns all across America.
That's what's really going to make the difference.
But yeah, that's why that reel, I think, is probably my favorite.
It's just because we are living in the if you can keep it moment.
And I think it's just a wake up call.
For people young and old, and I see a lot of people, they're like, you're young, you don't know everything, you don't know what you're talking about.
And look, I don't know everything.
I'll be the first to say, I do not know everything.
But when older people aren't going to take a stand, our generation has to do something.
Because like you said earlier, Ms.
Candice, We're only, we're less than a generation away from freedom being extinct, away from losing our freedom entirely.
So that's all.
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech and conduct and love and faith and purity.
1 Timothy 4, 12.
And that's the Holy Spirit said about youth.
And so that's why you do what you do, right?
And hold on to that verse and you do what you do and don't stop.
Push on, push forward.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for coming on.
It's gone by so fast.
Thank you so much for having me on.
I'm definitely going to be in touch with you and get you on my show sometime if you don't mind.
I will.
And we got to meet up in North Georgia.
Yes, I would love that.
Or come to South Georgia.
We'll take you to the beach.
That would be even more fun.
Let's do it.
All right.
See you all next week on Jesus, Kids, and Babies and on Steve Peters Network.
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