*music* Netanyahu intentionally let Hamas kill Israelis, both the Both the IDF and the Israeli Air Force both stood down for seven hours.
You won't believe what a Jewish charity leader told me today.
Israel has the most sophisticated intelligence in the world.
There was no way the government didn't know that that was going to happen.
We're friendly with several good people in Israel.
One is Rabbi Hanania Weissman.
He knows a lot of people in Israel.
He knows confidential sources that he shared with us their information about the standout order.
He sent out a missive that, indeed, The IDF was given stand-down orders, both the Army and the Air Force, seven hours to stand down while those attacks took place.
And this allowed the terrorists to come in and begin slaughtering and torturing the citizens.
Personally, I think that this situation is akin to a family keeping a rabid dog in their home and then blaming the dog when the baby gets bitten.
The parents needed to remove the dog many weeks ago, right, before the dog had a chance to injure somebody in the family.
So I look at the government of Israel and they really needed to make sure that these people did not proliferate on their borders.
And so they are held partially accountable for having to now go kill God's creations in order to secure their border.
This should never have happened.
Welcome to CrossTalk News.
I'm Edward Zoll and this is the wonderful Lauren Witzke.
Wow, what a week and a weekend.
That was quite an interview you conducted.
Yeah, absolutely.
So it really was funny because it just started with we were sitting on the couches out front of the Reawaken tour and And I was just having a conversation with her about her pro-life movement, what she does.
So basically she runs the Jewish Pro-Life Foundation where they go into Israel and try to push through legislation that's pro-life.
She told me that 40,000 Babies are aborted a year in Israel.
It's actually almost state-funded.
Pretty much you can go and get an abortion and the state will pay for it over there.
You know what's so interesting about that, Lauren?
I've heard a lot about how this attack by Hamas was the largest killing of Israelis since the war, since even the Holocaust, I've heard.
But what you just said, actually more Jews die for an infanticide.
Yes, a lot of them don't even make it out of the womb.
And it just goes to show how much they don't value human life, which we also saw, like another part of her story, which was very interesting, was that she had received that email.
And that email was from her rabbi, her rabbi in Israel, and he said that IDF was told to stand down for seven hours.
Well, if you look at the timeline, it's about six and a half hours, about 1230.
So the attack was around 6 a.m.?
They finally released the IDF to relieve the inner Israel area and save the people around 1230 p.m., which is about six and a half hours that they did a lot of nothing.
They shot some rockets over into Gaza during that time.
However, in the meantime, Hamas had already entered.
It makes absolutely no sense.
It was obviously a setup.
It was exactly what they needed to conduct the extermination they wanted.
I think you're absolutely on to something here.
And we're going to detail a lot of the evidence that's available for this and a little bit more on Cecile Rotman, the nice woman that you interviewed at the Reawaken America Tour in Miami.
But first, I want to talk about the region.
You know, there's a lot of context being lost in the butchery, you know, the mass curves and the dehumanization of the Palestinians.
People think they're, as you even heard in the soundbite, there's a common conception among Israelis and Americans.
They're just like rabid dogs.
They're animals.
What would you say if you saw photos from only maybe 50, 60, maybe 80 years ago where they look like Europeans?
Right.
Well, see, I was doing some research on Palestine recently because I didn't know much about the Middle East and that this has been going on for decades and decades, and I really just thought that all of them, all the Muslims, were terrorists.
I thought all of them were just terrorists, even though, you know, Hamas committed a horrible atrocity.
Please don't take my words and say that I support dead babies because that's what I have been hearing.
You know, if you...
So, what happened was, Palestine used to be very European.
So, the people were very proper.
They were much like Americans, early Americans.
They drank tea, and then they wore pretty outfits and dresses, and the high-waisted bathing suits.
They were very civilized society.
Well, after World War II, when the Israelis, or the, I guess it would be Jews back then, before they were Israelis, came and took over Israel, they came on boats.
So, They ended up bringing a sign, actually, that hung off the side of the boat saying, Nazis killed our families, don't you kill our dreams.
So then they came in, the Palestinians took them in, and gave them that territory, and then they started slaughtering.
And there was, it was a massacre.
What is it called?
The NABCA? NABCA. NABCA. So NABCA occurred.
Day of tragedy.
Day of tragedy, and where they killed thousands and thousands of Palestinians, took over their land, and they kind of just evolved into what they are now.
It's almost like, you know, they're living back in a stone age, literally.
And it's sad.
It's very sad to see what happened to them.
So they have a very tragic history, a lot of death, a lot of brokenness, and a lot of terror.
And a lot of self-inflicted death.
You know, Lauren mentioned the work to try to stop Jews from killing unborn Jews in regard to the pro-life movement.
But in addition to this, there are even examples as the Jews were taking over this territory that are of note.
One of them was the Patricia disaster, the SS Patricia.
It was a French-built ocean liner in the 1940s.
There was actually a bombing of this ship.
It had arrived in port at Haffa, Which is home to Israel's, you know, Navy and some of their special technology development now.
At the time, it was one of the entry points for Jews that were being sent by Adolf Hitler to Israel.
A lot of people don't know this, but Adolf Hitler had a deal that he'd struck with the British and they were working actually to, it was called the Transfer Agreement.
Really?
The Nazis, as you know, as we look to them, were transferring both equipment and people, going back and forth.
The ADL actually approved of this deal.
It's very interesting.
Really?
But the short of this is this ship had arrived.
The British were trying to control migration to this territory.
They're, you know, it's in full-blown war right now.
So at the time of this boat, it would be 1940, and they were trying to send it away.
Well, get this.
So what the Jews did, and the Jews who were running these underground organizations, one of them being Lahai, a self-described terrorist group, one of the only ones at the time, and in history itself, very proud of their terrorist activity, they planted a bomb.
They thought that if they were to, you know, damage the ship, they wouldn't be able to leave.
It had about 1,800 Jews on it.
Wow.
All right?
But they screwed up.
And they actually, the bomb damaged the ship enough that the ship started sinking.
And about 267 people died.
Thousands injured, you know, trying to run out of the ship.
So who bombed it?
The Jews did.
But they were the ones on the boat.
Yeah, the Jews that weren't on the boat bombed the Jews that were on the boat.
So they didn't have to leave.
Exactly.
It was a Jew-on-Jew bombing.
A Jew-on-Jew bombing.
Yeah.
So they bombed the boat because they were telling them they needed to leave, and then they didn't want to leave, so they bombed their own people.
They USS Liberty'd them.
They did, actually.
Really?
That shows you, you spoke about this, this mentality.
It's hard for us to conceptualize this because, you know, we're just a heart as Christians.
Who they try to pin it on.
Oh, they actually apologized because they claimed it.
Oh, they did?
Yeah, they were about to be very proud about it.
But, you know, they did initially try to blame the British, but it was very clear the British didn't bomb the ship.
The British were going to deport it.
They were going to claim it as this grand act of saving Jews from being sent back to Germany.
And there would be Jews even today, and there would be non-Jews too, that might even defend it and say, well, Edward, they were going to be sent back to Germany where they were going to be gassed and killed.
But instead, they were actually killed by Jews in the port of Hoffa.
So the notion of Jews sacrificing their own people, specifically the nation-state of Israel, which would soon come about in this region, sacrificing their own people to bring about an agenda, a mission.
It isn't actually that foreign.
Right, especially Netanyahu.
I think he's pure evil.
You can just look at him.
But also, okay, the whole thing is suspicious.
You know, we can't even talk to the people, the organizers of the rave that was moved to the border two days before, right by a war zone, easy access right there.
But we can't ask them why they would do that because one of them is dead and the other is missing and they can't find them anywhere.
So we'll never know the truth about why they moved those people there.
But also, we probably won't know the truth about why IDF stood down for so long.
You know, it almost seems like Netanyahu was willing to sacrifice his own people so that they could wipe out Gaza.
Gaza has been a huge problem for them.
They've wanted them gone forever.
You have to sacrifice a few of us in order to save the many, is probably what they were thinking.
And as, like, you know, what they did in Haffa, I mean, like you just spoke about, it seems that they have a history of that.
I'm not saying that Israel asked for it because nobody asks for that kind of tragedy.
All those people died and it's very sad.
Children died and it's very sad.
However, a lot of Palestinians are innocent.
I was watching children being blown up.
I was watching little babies that were blown up in Gaza.
They weren't even trying to not hit residential areas.
They were just killing everybody.
Yes, there's a lot we're going to go into on this.
And the theme of this, because we've read the comments and I've seen the text messages I've gotten.
I know you've gotten a lot from family, friends, folks just want to jump to, oh, they just must be anti-Semitic, must be hateful.
Well, there's a couple of things we're going to do here.
First of all, I'm going to present you evidence from Jews.
Alright, so you're going to have to say these Jews are anti-Semitic who are going to build this defense.
The other thing, too, is I want to humanize the people that are basically putting their neck out there.
I'm talking about Cecile Rotman being one of them.
To say what they said, they're not saying it hatefully.
They're saying it because they're seeking out the truth here.
Cecile Rotman, she's dedicated her life to saving Jews.
Okay, she is a Jew.
She saves thousands of Jewish babies a year, of course.
And she knew right away.
She said, oh no, it was absolutely a setup because even the Navy, the Israeli Navy, was operational.
So it wasn't like they were caught off guard.
They were ready.
And they automatically waited a few hours and then started sending bombs into Gaza, which means they were mobilized, but they just didn't send people to get IDF to go save their people.
Yes, and we're going to detail through all this, but first I want to kind of humanize Cicely Roteman, the head of the Jewish Pro-Life Foundation.
This is what she has to say about saving the life of Jews.
It's very trustworthy.
...underserved in that area.
90% of Jews believe that abortion is morally acceptable in all or most cases.
And back then in 2006, I thought I really needed to insert a pro-life message into our community.
We also, like we're doing here at the Reawaken event, Share pro-life Judaism with the evangelical pro-life conservative community because our optics are so bad coming out of the Jewish establishment community here and in Israel that Judaism is now seen as a baby-killing cult.
And I think it's very dangerous Especially, it just incites more anti-Semitism and it distorts Judaism.
Judaism was the original pro-life religion.
It was the religion first in history to ban child sacrifice and also to sanctify human life from conception.
It's gotten lost in the propaganda, generations of propaganda and distorted messaging.
So I'm so happy that I can talk with your audience today about True, pro-life Judaism, what God gave us.
Yeah, because I hear that abortion is a Jewish value.
That's what I'm told here in America.
That's what a lot of Jews here tell us, that it's a Jewish value.
You know, so we had talked a little bit about your work and what you do, and you had mentioned that Israel, like they have about 40,000 abortions a year.
Is that true?
Yes, that's what is generally agreed upon, yes.
Half of them are privately done, paid through private insurance, and half of them are paid by the government.
They have a very liberal health insurance reimbursement program in Israel.
It's a secular, mostly democratic socialist society, yes.
So there used to be a termination committee that a woman had to stand in front of and justify her abortion, and 99 out of 100 of those were approved.
But recently, the abortion health care part of the health ministry deleted that termination committee.
So a woman no longer has to do that.
And they made access to chemical abortion readily available before women had to go to the hospital to have that done.
Now...
I trust her.
Yeah.
People look at this and say...
Oh, this woman doesn't know what she's talking about.
She's a charity worker.
Others have said, what intelligence could she have received?
She's there all the time.
She's very well connected.
She's a foundation leader.
She's very well connected with the rabbis.
She's an Orthodox Jew.
So she's not your typical liberal, secular Jew.
They are extremely religious and they are extremely conservative.
You saw the headscarf that she was wearing.
She wore that the entire weekend.
Yeah, and look, the first thing I want to address is that people are saying, well, there's no way she would be privy to intelligence.
That's just not correct.
If you know anything about Israeli politics, the Israeli government, especially the right-wing government, very, very close to the religious community, they will tell them secrets.
So much so, think back to 9-11.
Aneido was an app that the FBI actually found messages were sent ahead of time, some are very religious Jews, to not show up to work at the Trade Center.
And this would indicate that maybe some people involved in an operation were telling and communicating with religious members, you know, the community.
Additionally, when Benjamin Netanyahu has been caught in moments where he's been very candid, sharing information, inside information from the government, you could say Benjamin Netanyahu is a pretty big government source, right?
You would agree?
It's been with religious individuals, people from the kibbutzes, people from the religious community.
So the kibbutzes, for people that don't know, they're the settlements.
Yes, they're settlements, villages.
Essentially, they are communities that Orthodox Jews and some secular Jews, they have both the secular ones and the ultra-religious versions of these kibbutzes, they are like socialist kind of communes.
They started out as such.
They're little communities that have been placed upon the land that formerly belonged to Palestinians.
Okay, so they take Palestinian land, Israeli settlers go in.
Is it still behind the Iron Gate?
Some of them are definitely behind the Iron Gate.
I'd say the majority of them are definitely behind the walls.
What the Israelis have done, because they know how controversial this is, they've made sure to put them behind the great defensive structures of Israel.
For obvious reasons, people are very angry in that region about their families' homes being taken, their grandparents' homes now being used for homes for For sometimes Jews that don't even live in Israel.
One of them is like vacation homes sometimes for Jews.
The problem that the Israeli government has had for a long time, Lauren, is most people don't want to live in someone else's stolen house.
So Israelis have always had a hard time getting Jews from around the world to agree to Aliyah, which is the return to Israel.
That's why the majority of Jews actually live outside of Israel.
These are all facts.
They're controversial ones, but hey, we're truth-tellers.
I'm going to go into this.
You know, they said a lot of Americans died.
You know, that's one of the things they're trying to use to send us to war.
Oh, 20 Americans died.
But really?
They're Israeli citizens who probably have a vacation home.
They basically just have an American passport.
Israel is their home.
A few of them I know are working for IDF, like they were Israeli military themselves.
So that is not a reason to go to war.
I don't think it is a legitimate reason to go to war for people who really...
Weren't loyal to America, as it seems.
They certainly had dual loyalty through their dual passports, their dual citizenship.
And you're right, the media has presented...
Painted it as they were Americans.
They painted great propaganda.
Because when you hear that 14 Americans, 20 Americans, 27 Americans killed, Canadians, too British...
It's like, yep, we've got to go to war.
We've got to go to war.
You don't read the part that they were Israeli citizens, too.
Yeah, and 40% of the citizens in Israel are dual citizens.
So it's very common.
Not a lot of people...
Aren't dual citizens or they're just Israelis?
Well, and that's partly to the core of this issue, Lord, is that when it comes to even in our government, we've discussed this at length in a previous episode.
We'll discuss it now.
If you are Jewish and you're involved in politics, you likely do have Israeli citizenship.
I'll point to Antony Blinken, for example.
He went to Israel.
He is the Secretary of State for the United States.
Yet when he spoke next to Benjamin Netanyahu, what he started by saying, instead of saying, I'm an American, no, he said, I'm a Jew.
I'm a Jew, and this is why I can understand exactly what...
So it's sounding again like his loyalty is to the nation-state of Israel.
Interestingly enough, when he visited, and he's visiting there right now, Benjamin Netanyahu is also going to be met by Joe Biden, the President of the United States.
He's going to be going over there here on Wednesday.
I actually got to give it to Biden.
Sure.
He didn't send us into war right away.
He didn't.
And I know he's getting a lot of pressure to do it, and he didn't.
I'll add something to that.
People are misreading the deployment of the two carrier groups and the troops, the Special Forces troops, and the calls for the 82nd Airborne.
And actually, just moments ago, Lauren, the whole United States military was given ready-to-deploy order.
So there are a lot of ready-action forces, the 82nd Airborne 101st, a lot of forces that can go very quickly.
We don't have many free, by the way, because recruitment's down.
The military's at a low readiness level.
But they've been given a heads-up to deploy.
This is why this is a good thing.
People aren't going to say this.
People think deploying the military to the Middle East is going to cause the war to start.
And I'll concede that there's also a possibility that this could lead to open conflict.
But what's more likely is that the U.S. military being in Israel is going to be a deterrence to escalation.
What I mean by this, U.S. troops being there stop Hezbollah in the north.
They say they have about 100,000 plus soldiers.
They have rockets.
The Hezbollah militias, which are officially backed by nations like Iran, they're not going to fire missiles in and kill American soldiers.
They're not crazy.
Right.
What this means is they are actually going to act as, in a way, human shields.
This isn't good.
In that sense, American soldiers once again are acting as human shields.
But what is good is this will likely result in this not getting to like a nuclear war or to a war.
Right.
Yes.
And I saw America was urging Hezbollah not to really get involved because basically they knew that if they did, then it would escalate into a world war.
And it appears that they are trying to avoid getting into a war.
Which is a good thing, because that leaked email that came out yesterday from the military general of the National Guard.
Yes, let's go into that right now, actually.
Let me bring that up.
Because this email is being kind of criticized in some media.
They're saying that this thing's not real.
It's always possible that the Tasman News Agency, which is an Iranian-backed one...
Well, they say it looks intentionally leaked because it was supposed to make Donald Trump look bad, is what it was.
What it said was that American soldiers are not wanting to go die for Israel.
They are not wanting to go to war on behalf because they don't agree with the war.
Understandable.
But then they went on to say, oh, and Tommy Tuberville's comments and Donald Trump criticizing Netanyahu didn't help.
This is his fault that military doesn't want to go to war.
But the truth is, Americans just don't want to go to war for a foreign country.
They signed up for the military to defend their country.
Our country.
Put them on the southern border.
Don't send them overseas in the Middle East.
That's not doing us any good as we're being invaded and flooded with fentanyl and 100,000 deaths a year due to fentanyl overdoses.
It's sick.
Yeah, and look, again, we can't speak to the authenticity of this completely.
I can just report on this story.
Tasman News is Iranian-backed, but you know what?
BBC is UK-backed.
Most of the U.S. outlets are a U.S. pact, as in the government's controlled in there.
What I will say is this.
First of all, the notion that because it mentioned a U.S. politician might reflect poorly on President Trump, that doesn't mean it's not real.
Actually, it leads credence because you think about what General Milley did.
General Milley, if you could have read his private correspondence, and we've read actually quite a bit now based on what's come out, he was the entire time politicizing his position as the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff.
This was when President Trump was still in.
He was meeting with Mike Pompeo, who was the Secretary of State, in his private residence, and Gina Haspel, the head of the CIA. Mike Milley, a general, top general in the U.S. military, was 100% speaking like this.
He was saying President Trump might be undermining national security.
Also, I'll remind you that General Milley, again, a general on active duty, was actually doing things like calling the Chinese, saying we're not going to attack you.
So, no, there is actually quite a lot of precedent for a U.S. military member to be speaking in this manner.
Yeah.
Yeah, and they purged all the good ones.
So all the good soldiers, freedom-loving soldiers, they kicked out with the vaccine mandate, and they were begging for them to come back.
Do you think we're going to go and have a draft?
I think they'd like to.
I don't think they can accomplish it, and this is why.
I think there'd be riots in the streets and stuff.
That, and I think that most Americans don't qualify.
Why do you say that?
They're on one form of antidepressant.
They're overweight.
They're generally spent too much time playing video games.
Oh, I don't think they care about mental health anymore.
They're letting transgenders play in the military.
That's true.
So I guess maybe the answer is, it's possible, but then the follow-on question is, would that military even be effective?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, so yes, maybe they would do a draft.
We'll have guys out there worried about breaking mail.
Yes.
Yeah, breaking mail.
They'd probably start accidentally shooting each other.
I have a story for basic training that I'll be quick with.
One of the soldiers who shot the best in the company, he was a little bit of a fidget, a little bit of a nerd.
When given the opportunity to shoot the AT-4, which is the rocket launcher, he had to point it backwards.
And that's at a time when the military wasn't terrible.
He almost destroyed our entire battalion.
That would have been bad.
We're all looking at him.
And the drill sergeants, they caught it.
I don't know if the drill sergeants got you now.
They caught it and they ran.
Tackled him and said, don't hit the fire button.
Because he had it pointed backwards.
Lauren, can you imagine?
Can you imagine what the average American would do given some of the weapons of destruction we have?
This general was caught sending an email on his private server.
He wasn't using his official email from the government.
That's how they got it.
It makes it something that could have happened.
It makes it realistic.
And they haven't debunked it yet, though.
I posted it on my Twitter.
Daniel R. Hawkinson.
He's the commander of the National Guard.
So this is the top National Guard general.
And what he said in the email, I just want to read this real quick because you brought this up.
We don't know who he sent it to.
His subject line was, Troop Sentiment Regarding Israel.
He says, With Trump's remarks against Netanyahu Wednesday, and they're referring to President Trump's rally remarks, where they're saying he promoted Hezbollah, which is kind of ridiculous.
No, no.
He was supposed to be in on the assassination of Soleimani.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Yes, yeah.
Qasem Soleimani, the Iranian general.
Yeah.
And the night before they were supposed to execute the assassination...
Netanyahu backed out.
Yes, that's what President Trump addressed.
And then he went afterwards.
So America did it.
Trump took him out.
And then after that, Netanyahu took credit for it.
That's what Trump said.
Let's play that clip because I want to be so clear here.
Here is what President Trump said that night.
About 15 seconds later, it was all over and we did it.
But I'll never forget.
I'll never forget.
That Bibi Netanyahu let us down, that was a very terrible thing, I will say that.
And so when I see sometimes the intelligence, you talk about the intelligence or you talk about Some of the things that went wrong over the last week, they've got to straighten it out because they're fighting potentially a very big force.
They're fighting potentially Iran.
And when they have people saying the wrong things, everything they say is being digested by these people because they're vicious and they're smart.
And boy, are they vicious because nobody's ever seen the kind of sight that we've seen.
Nobody's ever seen it.
But they cannot play games.
So we were disappointed by that.
Very disappointed.
But we did the job ourselves and it was absolute precision, magnificent, beautiful job.
And then BB tried to take credit for it.
That wasn't good.
That didn't make me feel too good, but that's all right.
So they got to strengthen themselves up.
All right, so look, he did criticize Benjamin Netanyahu.
We read in the past, you know, the scuttlebutt, the insider from Politico, was that President Trump was so angry when he saw Benjamin Netanyahu call and congratulate Joe Biden.
Oh, yeah, he was the first one.
It was the end of their relationship.
Yeah, well, he was the first one to pretty much turn his back on Trump.
Trump is still fighting a stolen election.
He's in the middle of stop the steal, and bam, Netanyahu congratulates Biden publicly in front of everyone.
It took a lot of wind out of his sails.
Trump never forgets, though.
That's the thing.
And I actually appreciate Trump's messaging around this conflict.
So, well, some woman obviously got a hold of his Truth Social this weekend.
It was not him writing.
It didn't even sound like him.
Like, oh, anti-Semitism is wrong!
Like, the explanation wasn't Trump.
But at his actual speech, he made a really good point about the southern border having these kind of people come in, unvetted, the ones that attacked Trump.
Israel.
Unvetted Muslims are coming across our southern border.
That is a fact.
And he was talking about America first.
He shifted it back to America first.
And how Israel, he had a bad experience with them.
And they're dealing with some serious people.
And if Netanyahu wants to win, he's going to have to act and not be a chicken like he was back during that time.
But I mean, he just did a really good job with his messaging in person.
Whoever has his true social account should probably get their phone taken away from them.
Well, certainly.
I think that a lot of people went into a little bit of damage control mode after President Trump made the statement because it was seen as criticism of a prime minister who is at war.
You know, a prime minister is defending his country.
But nonetheless, that's what happened.
And going back to the email, because this is back to the Tasman News article that was being criticized by some in media as not being real.
This is what was said.
He said this problem is only going to get worse in regard to the criticism that President Trump leveled against Netanyahu that's leading to anti-Semitism in the ranks.
We need to come up with a strategy to deal with this and rally the troops in support of Israel against Hamas.
I think it's best we try to get ahead of this as Tony believes it is becoming an issue.
When I spoke to Ori shortly after the attack, he expressed concerns about the Republicans in Congress and if they would hinder full support from the U.S. I tried to assedge his concerns, but he's not wrong.
CENTCOM told me Tuberville's hold is having a major impact on their operations.
CENTCOM has limited forces and was expecting a hot war to break out in this region.
This, combined with the lack of confirmed leadership positions, means CENTCOM will not be able to support Israel should this turn into a multi-front war if Hezbollah enters the fray.
To be honest, if Hezbollah or other players enter the war, Israel won't be able to defend themselves either.
Let's pray that doesn't happen.
Let me know if you have any suggestions and let's try to get the key players together for a meeting on Monday.
So again, we can attest to the authenticity of this fully.
What I can say is it does express the sentiment of soldiers that I've spoken to.
I have friends who are in Israel right now.
U.S. soldiers.
U.S. Special Forces were deployed the second the attack happened.
And it is because, not because we agree with this or anything, but it's just the fact...
Israel is considered our closest ally in the region.
Thus, when they were attacked, they're not in NATO, but they treated it as such.
We did everything but send forces to attack Gaza.
But we sent troops.
So I can tell you, this is their sentiment.
They don't like being there.
Most soldiers are saying, this isn't America.
We're looking at video of our border exposed right now.
Right.
And it was an attack on a foreign country, too.
So I know 9-11 after that, they really did a good job of rallying Americans to sign up and go fight wars and Somehow it ended up in Iraq.
I'm not really sure how that happened, but it was, I guess, a little different because it was Americans that died and Americans that were slaughtered on our own soil, which, of course, they've been saying that this was Israel's 9-11, which tells me it was an inside job.
Yeah, and I agree with that, and I think that your commentary on that, it speaks past even this current situation, because you compare it to Pearl Harbor, too.
There was foresight.
Even Alex Jones said that in an interview on Sunday.
People suspected an attack was coming.
We actually had sanctions on Japan for quite some time with oil and rubber.
And the experts that we deployed to analyze this part, to put in those sanctions, said, if you do this, Japan will be forced to attack us.
They have no other option.
You're literally going to starve their nation of the resources they need.
Thus, they will see a war as inevitable, as something they must do, and even a preemptive strike.
And we saw submarines within vicinity of Pearl Harbor prior to the attack.
And then, interestingly...
The carrier strike groups were moved away.
They weren't strike groups at the time, they're just carriers, but were the most important aspect of the fleet.
They moved away from Pearl Harbor.
The battleships weren't.
Battleships were sunk, and the entire U.S. got sent into war fever for production to replace the damaged supplies and to get revenge.
Remember this?
This is really what got us into World War II. The war had already begun in Europe, but we somehow stayed out.
It was an attack on America that drove us in.
Same for Israel.
There's definitely a motivation.
There's a motivation and a motive in this respect for some leaders in Israel, if they had the ability, to let this attack happen.
What's interesting, Lauren, is first of all, this was on the anniversary of the Yom Kippur, 1973.
Well, I don't know this.
Israel got a heads up before the invasion happened in 73.
Golda Mayur was the Prime Minister of Israel at the time.
She had received intelligence from an Egyptian spy.
Going back to, wasn't it an Egyptian intelligence?
Yeah, it was an Egyptian this time.
An Egyptian spy had leaked to Israel that a huge mobilization was coming.
That Arabs moving away from the city, you know, they were getting ready.
And Israel at the time, official, this is the official, this is a conspiracy, they made the decision to only mobilize 120,000 of their reserves.
They could have mobilized the entire army, only half of them.
Additionally, they did not tell anybody and they, quote, were caught flat-footed.
On top of that, they had spent an exorbitant amount of money on a listening system, a spy system in Israel.
This is not the spy systems they have now.
The spy systems they have now pale in comparison.
Okay, they're so good.
The ones they had back then, they had a heads up and they found out after the attack that, oh, we'd had intelligence that had told us this attack was coming.
It wasn't A surprise.
A lot of Jews died both in warfare and in the towns that were attacked because there wasn't mobilization, wasn't a defense.
The same narrative we're seeing now.
But, you know, they said, Lauren, they said, well, no one wanted to be wrong.
It was just an intelligence failure.
Fast forward to the attack we're talking about today.
All right, so October 7th, Saturday.
Are you going to talk about how Egypt had given them intelligence saying that Hamas was going to attack two hours before they actually attacked, so Egypt yet again, and U.S. intelligence had told them the week before, days before, that, hey, Hamas is planning something, there's going to be attack.
And the biggest thing they said, oh, we were caught off guard, oh, that is a lie, because you were warned twice that it was coming.
How could you let your guard down like this?
Yes, so I will go into that.
So what you're actually talking about, the two hour before Heads Up was actually Israeli intelligence.
Their version of the FBI, Shin Bet, confirmed that yesterday.
And the head of their National Security Council, Shizeki Hanejabi.
Well, Egypt have given them a heads-up tip.
Yes, I'm going to get to that too.
So Egypt, it was reported by the Times of Israel, none other, and also confirmed by the head of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Michael McCaul, who's a Zionist, by the way.
He didn't want to have to talk about this, but he did.
And in regards to the Egyptian intelligence this time around, they said something big was being planned, something huge was coming, and that Israel should prepare.
Benjamin Netanyahu, all he said on this is that they weren't sure what to make of the intelligence coming in, but there are top intelligence officials right now.
They're being careful, Lauren, and I'll go into this in just a moment.
There's even a law which is intimidating people against coming forward, even saying something like we knew ahead of time.
The Israeli government right now is considering themselves in a state of war, And thus, they're saying that we will investigate this after the fact.
We don't want to depress the morale of soldiers.
We don't want people to think that we could have stopped this.
We want everyone to be focused on the war we have to fight.
Oh my gosh.
So that's why, because you were thinking thousands and thousands of IDF soldiers, how come nobody said anything?
Exactly.
Because they are directly being told, you will be arrested.
You are being arrested.
There actually was a story today, and I'll bring this up now.
This is from the communications minister, Shlomo Karhi.
He is proposing an emergency regulation, kind of like the Patriot Act.
Remember how it was, or at least we were in high school when this happened.
There was a kind of this broad chilling effect over the nation.
The day after 9-11, here in this country, you dare say anything against the emergency procedures that were being done to violate the rights of Americans, anything that criticized the war effort, you were not only going to be called unpatriotic, I think you might have been lynched.
Seriously.
But the same thing is happening in Israel right now.
Their communications minister is in charge of all messages, all information in the country.
OK, he's saying that he is going to push through a regulation that will lead to police arresting civilians.
These are Israeli citizens and this to include soldiers and have their they're going to be removed from their homes.
Their property is going to be seized.
And all he has to say is that you've spread misinformation or information that could harm national morale.
Now, that last part's important.
So if the information is correct, but it harms national morale like we knew ahead of time we didn't stop this or our government intentionally let this happen and let people we know die, if this impacts morale, you're going to go to jail.
So, of course, a lot of people have said, I don't want to go to jail, so they're kind of being quiet.
No, we probably are going to get that rabbi in trouble.
The one that we, our intel.
You know, well, and it's, you know, we didn't do this maliciously.
They put this forward, and I would say this.
It's very brave of that rabbi.
Right.
Very brave.
He was like a big anti-vaxxer, too, I think.
He was somebody who spoke out.
When his people were dying left and right, dying suddenly left and right.
So if it harms morale in Israel and they believe that it's misinformation that harms morale, they will arrest you.
That explains why there was a stand-down order and nobody talks about it.
Yes, and this is very important.
Anything that's considered aiding the enemy is going to be considered something that they are going to arrest people over.
This also impacts Al Jazeera.
And why that's important is not because it's Qatari misinformation.
People are saying it's backed by the Qatari government.
It must not be true.
Okay, well, are we supposed to trust the information that's backed by the Israeli government or the British government, the UK government, the American government?
Everybody's got an agenda.
But Al Jazeera is one of the few outlets that's showing the atrocities.
So through this act, Lauren, they're not only chilling and intimidating whistleblowers from coming forward and punishing those that have come forward, but they are also removing the ability for the crimes, the war crimes, the deaths, the killings, the crazy things going on from being recorded.
So Al Jazeera and other outlets are going to have a hard time putting this out.
But let's now go to the source of the information.
So we have a lot of information, a lot of evidence, mind you.
People are saying that there's nothing you can show on this.
That's just not true.
So Cecile Ruttmann, the pro-life leader that Lauren spoke to, she was sourcing a man by the name of...
Chenya Weissman.
This is the rabbi.
Chenanya Weissman.
Now this man, as Lorna's mentioned, is against the use of vaccination to kill Israelis.
He has spoken out pretty vocally through his Rumble channel since the attack.
He says he spoke with soldiers.
He spoke with government officials.
And he actually has provided video.
They haven't yet been translated, but I'm going to provide a lot of stuff to you today that you're going to find this isn't just random misinformation, as some might try to say.
The first thing is, he actually was able to provide footage Of an Israeli commander.
So this Israeli commander is saying from the hospital bed, according to Mr.
Weissman, that there is no way this attack was random.
There's no way that this attack wasn't planned.
That he is hearing from soldiers, he's hearing from so many, that people were told not to report to duty.
People were told not to rush to the defense of the villages.
The report that there was a delay Is widespread.
A lot of people believe this.
At a minimum of four hours.
So there's reports of it being up to seven hours.
I'm sure some areas didn't get help for six and a half, seven hours.
But some, I think the first, they started maybe ruling out around four hours trying to help people.
So, you know, I think there's a lot more that's going to come out.
As more and more people talk, they see the death toll.
They start looking around them and they're like, whatever.
I'll get arrested for this.
I'm going to tell the truth.
And good for you.
And I want to encourage the Israelis to speak up.
So the first thing here, a lot of people are saying the attack began at 7.40.
According to Rabbi Weissman, that is incorrect.
It began at 5.55 a.m.
Now this is important because for actually your video, Lauren, it was community noted or someone tried to give it context.
It was voted down, but they kept highlighting the timeline.
And that's what we're going to do.
We're going to highlight the timeline because the timeline is very important.
If the attack began at 5.55 a.m., And the soonest that help began to arrive, or at least an alert raised, was about 8, 820, 830.
That would mean that approximately three hours passed.
Now, why this is important, Rabbi Weissman lays out all the things that are in place to protect Israel.
And it's to protect Israel against those that are in the Gaza territory that have been held there against their will, that have been surrounded and treated like animals.
Okay, they're very angry.
And such as this, if you live right next to that kind of a population, you'd imagine about 10,000 to 20,000 soldiers at all times would be on that border.
Because the second they ever get free, they're going to want to hurt you.
They are always on that border.
Up until a couple weeks ago.
So we're actually going to be going into a witness from the IDF that says about 80% of the Gaza division, which is the division that is assigned to protect Israel from those in Gaza and from the infiltration like this, that they were moved to the West Bank.
They were moved to protect settlements.
Well, that's what Cecily said.
No, no, no.
That they left the settlements with nothing.
Just civilians.
She had said that they had pulled out from there.
But, yeah, she had said...
And that's correct.
Yeah, that is correct.
That there was a moving of the forces.
But in addition to that...
Several key security components were shut down.
One, static thermal imaging observation posts.
Now what this is is they are cameras that look for heat signatures.
Very hard to sneak past these.
It's high-tech, top-of-the-line stuff.
Those were not working.
They also did not have manned patrol vehicles going at the time.
Apparently those were either stationary, they were not being moved around.
Static manned observation posts, there were not men and women in the IDF that were put in the guard posts.
Subterranean radar.
So actually, most of Gaza, you know, the border with Israel, if anyone moves, if a small animal moves around, you're going to see a radar blip.
Birds even get picked up by this.
For some reason, the underground radar, because a lot of tunnels and such have been dug by Hamas and those in Gaza, and above, it was not working.
Reconnaissance drones were not running.
Technology is not like it was in the 50s, 60s anymore.
So all of that technology that you're listing just wasn't working.
Yep.
Reconnaissance aircraft, regular patrols from the air bases, which were only by flight, about two to five minutes away.
The autonomous patrol vehicles.
So they actually have vehicles that they basically run without anyone actually having to run it or control it.
Fence motion detection was not working.
So anytime the fences were violated or cut into, for some reason, the radars did not go off, the alerts did not go off.
Lastly, the bomb-proof multi-layered reinforced fence sent into concrete.
The bombs didn't go off and neither did the protections that they have on them.
This is very odd.
And Rabbi Weissman correctly points out these failures in security.
But he goes further than this.
He also points out that there were Arabs that were given a heads up to leave the territory prior to the attack on the 7th.
It's very odd.
It's something that the Israelis actually picked up in 1973.
And trust me when I say that every piece of communication coming out of Gaza is monitored, is seen by Mossad and others.
So the second any of that stuff would have come out, any notions like someone texting, someone saying, hey, I'm leaving because I hear an attack is coming, it would have raised an alarm.
Oh, really?
Yes.
So they have all these things in place.
Well, also they attacked a concert where everybody was, I'm sure, tripping out of their mind on drugs, too.
It was a psychedelic concert, and as you correctly noted, the two founders of the concert, one of them, their twin brothers, one of them died in the attack, the initial attack, they said, and the second actually has gone missing.
So I'm sure he would be an interesting person to interview because of this specific fact.
They moved the concert from a venue that was completely far away.
This was actually, I think, going to be in the West Bank.
It was going to be away from the Gaza Strip.
They moved it right next to the border where angry Arabs, as we've now learned, had planned a very complex attack.
Almost as if you wanted to put drugged out, kind of out of their mind, off-duty IDF soldiers and other people easy targets.
You wanted to put them right in the line of fire.
Right, but also, interestingly enough, there was foreigners who had come from all over different countries to come to that concert.
And I feel like they have a better chance of garnering support from other countries if they have one of their own die.
So I think that...
too.
That makes a lot of sense.
Remember that German girl?
She was the first one we saw everywhere.
They were saying that she was dead.
The one with the dreads, well, allegedly now she's still alive.
But they used that everywhere.
This German girl was, you know, murdered.
It seemed like they intentionally set up people for an attack that had come from all these different countries to come to the concert that they moved right on the border.
So when they knew that Hamas would attack, that other countries would get on board with them completely flattening the whole place because it was their own that was killed.
That would be really smart, actually.
And I imagine since this was an inside job, that was probably their thinking.
Yes.
And I think that for the actual concert, because it's a very important thing to point to because it's been seen as like one of the places where the majority of Israelis were initially killed and confirmed for the U.S.
You saw the footage everywhere.
There's a base within actually strike distance of there.
It's called Hat Zerim Air Base.
Now, it's located in Beersheba.
It's roughly 40 miles away from Sadat.
You know, this is home, actually, to the IDF Airwings for their quick-response F-16s, which are their fighter jets the U.S. has given to them.
The Knights of the Orange Tail, 107 Squadron is the name of it.
At top speed, Lauren, they could have arrived on site in two minutes.
Really?
And some people are like, well, what were they going to do?
Are they going to shoot at the people as they're coming through?
Maybe.
Weren't there hang gliders?
Yeah, there were hang gliders.
They could have buzzed it.
They could have done all kinds of things, shot missiles at them.
Yep, and they were coming through the fences.
So interestingly enough, Charlie Kirk said something about this.
He's under fire, come under fire, because he broke this really early.
Check this out.
Story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially.
I find this very hard to believe.
I've been to that Gaza border.
You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier.
The whole country is surveilled.
And so let me just kind of go through this.
We don't talk about Israeli politics very often, and most Americans don't know this.
The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war.
It's not an exaggeration.
This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution.
That's not an exaggeration, right?
He said the judicial branch has too much power.
There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu, where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.
That's all gone, Patrick.
Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.
I'm not willing to say, to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked.
Was there a stand-down order?
Was there a stand-down order?
Six hours?
I don't believe it.
Israel's the size of New Jersey.
When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes.
Six hours.
They're live streaming the killing of Jews.
Did somebody in the government say, stand down?
That is a legitimate, non-conspiracy question.
The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is.
And you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and kibbutzes and schools and, by reports, six hours.
Let's say it's three hours.
That's suspect.
Go ahead, Rob.
It's also not like...
You know, they're being so careful.
You know, Charlie Kirk and that soundbite kind of contradict him.
So like, I don't believe it, but I do.
And he made the point we just were talking about.
It's the size of New Jersey.
It's a 45-minute helicopter ride.
Try 20 minutes from some of the military bases.
Jets can reach there in five minutes.
You think that the Israeli military, who's been warning about Muslims killing Jews for the length of their existence, that they wouldn't jump immediately if they knew about it?
Yeah, they were live-streaming the whole thing.
It was absolutely intentional.
And also, that rabbi had said something else.
Yeah, so going through these emails, something else he said.
He said at about 2 a.m., 2 a.m.
to 3 a.m., before the attack, there were two fighter jets that were launching.
They were, like, doing their afterburners.
It's called lightning afterburners.
They're sonic booms.
Whenever a jet revs or does, like, a big maneuver, it creates a sound wave.
Two were recorded at 2 a.m.
So they were mobilizing before.
Yep.
One helicopter was seen moving and didn't return back.
Also, Makava guns were firing, then they were silent.
There were some very interesting things that happened, but again...
Not a mass deployment.
And one of the criticisms I saw, by the way, you got the attention of one of the primary Christian Zionists in the world, Amir Tasfari, I think is his name.
Oh, gosh.
That's such a hack.
We pray for you, brother.
He force-vaccinated all his employees and wouldn't let them come to his church events unless they were like double-vaxxed and boosted.
Is that true?
And he was shilling the vax really bad.
Yeah.
That's like a good indicator of like, is your religious leader really operating in the word of God and wisdom, saying that Jesus Christ and his blood and him dying on the cross isn't going to keep you safe or heal you or relieve your sickness.
Now, you have to get a man-made bioweapon shot in order to survive COVID. And it's such crap.
You know, he is a real hack.
And I was really dis...
Well, see, he was like giving out propaganda all day, hitting Christians.
Oh, these crazy Christians questioning Netanyahu and questioning the fact that the IDF...
Oh, they're just crazy.
Don't listen to them.
Unfollow them.
Unsubscribe from them immediately.
But he never addressed our concerns.
He was just calling us crazy without giving real evidence or answering to it.
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Now, that's what partly we'll do on this show, is we'll prepare you with information, ways to think about these things and ways to analyze them based on what we've seen.
And we were talking about the information from Rabbi Weissman, who has very bravely come forward, and of course his supporters are coming forward with the information that they can.
We were talking about potential stand-up.
And I want to go a little bit further into this because, you know, Amir, I want to address Amir first.
My brother in Christ, what did Jesus say about when you have a problem with another Christian?
Shouldn't you have come to us?
Instead, you decided to defame Lauren.
Lauren's asking a very serious question.
Instead of defending Benjamin Netanyahu for political reasons, maybe you should be praying for him.
Have you shared the gospel with him and your many meetings with him that you're going to run PR for him?
I don't know.
But what I do know is this.
We watched your video and you might have actually exposed more than debunked.
My point is, the US presence surprised them.
And now, actually, they need Hezbollah to stay and not to be wiped out.
This is why all we have is little skirmishes along the border.
Rocket here, rocket there.
But there is no full out war between the two.
And right away, it serves our purpose.
First Gaza, then Lebanon.
After that, we take care of the rest.
Take care of the rest.
It serves our purpose.
What purpose?
For the kingdom?
Are you going to share the gospel throughout?
No, you're talking about the IDF conquering that territory.
No, they're talking about a massacre.
Yeah, sir, they're unarmed.
And he gets his talking points, I'm pretty sure, directly from Netanyahu, I'm pretty sure.
So when he's saying things, you know that it has trickled down to him.
He's given information to give to you that he wants you to know.
So he said, Gaza, Lebanon, then all the rest.
Yeah, he was very quick.
So this was an organized effort.
He was very quick to attack you on this.
And that caught my attention because I know how this is being perceived in Israel.
I know that many people think the way that we're talking right now.
I know what the former defense minister said, sir, you're a big supporter of Israel.
Do you support this former defense minister who laid out in no uncertain terms Former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Yalon, I call on the opposition not to form an emergency government with Netanyahu, but to demand his resignation.
He was warned several times he did not let the Chief of Staff speak to the cabinet.
This is talking about Benjamin Netanyahu.
There is no trust in him.
How can you lead a people to war like this?
Every hour he remains in office as a detriment to the country.
That's such an interesting statement.
I would say that he's a very respected Jew, a very respected citizen of Israel, yet Amir would say that anyone speaking the way this man's speaking is anti-Semite.
We're blinded by our hatred, he says.
No, I care about the Jews.
I care about all people, including the Palestinians.
And I care that this is looking like the IDF not only failed, but maybe the top level decided not to act.
So he said Netanyahu was warned multiple times?
Warned multiple times.
And he brought up a new fact.
Because we're learning a lot from a lot of the evidence that's presented here.
The cabinet, the cabinet, I'm talking about the top officials in their government, the version of the Secretary of Treasury, Secretary of Defense, all these other people, We're not briefed.
So only Benjamin Netanyahu received the warnings.
The same way Golda Meir in 1973.
It was only her who got the intelligence from Mossad.
It was her choice to keep it quiet or to share it publicly.
She chose to keep it quiet, as did Benjamin Netanyahu.
I'll be interested to find out if he's going to use the exact same rationale that Golda Meir used, which is, mistakes were made, but we won the war.
Amir essentially confirmed to us that for most of the Israelis who are in control, they absolutely see this war that's transpiring right now as a benefit.
They accuse us of not caring about the dead Israelis.
Those bodies aren't even cold.
Those families are grieving and crying.
Yet you have people like Amir and you have ultra right-wing Zionists in that country who are saying how this benefits Israel.
Now we have more than just that.
There is quite a lot of information that was shared by Shanyanya Wiseman, and I would invite him actually on the program if he is able to speak.
As Lauren said, we don't want to get him killed or arrested.
Right.
Because right now there are laws being passed in Israel, so we'll speak for you, sir.
We'll speak for you.
It turns out that a lot of the forces that went into Israel, I'm talking about Hamas, By their own words, they said it took them about an hour to get to most of the towns.
So I want to make this very clear.
At 5.55, when the first attack occurred and the gates were kind of breached, it would be an hour from then.
So the alarm should have gone off, and given most Israelis sold, it's been an hour.
Heads up.
Most Israeli soldiers, at least part of them, would have been able to respond within 20 minutes.
So the other part that Rabbi Weissman shared of note is that when you go through the footage of people being abducted, people being taken, people manning in checkpoints and the gates entries, there is a footage that's circulating inside Israel that he has seen, has been shown to him by these sources in the government, of what were, he considered, European-looking men, blonde and pale-skinned.
Not brown with Islamic scarves and jihadist propaganda and flags.
They also had military haircuts.
They had, quote, first-rate equipment, military-bearing, some of them wearing COVID masks.
And these were the people that were helping to move prisoners across the unmanned checkpoints.
And these checkpoints that are usually manned 24-7, checkpoints that 100% should have had IDF soldiers on them.
And checkpoints when breached would have set off alarms across the entire country.
Right.
Okay?
In addition to this, Rabbi Weissman has shared that when it comes to the actual stand-down, there are several people that were in hospital already, people that are hurt, people that were even injured, that have come forward and their warnings have actually been silenced.
Now, some have criticized that we can't present all of Rabbi Weissman's information.
That's correct.
But you know what?
With his lead, I was able to find some actual evidence that I can present to you to cooperate.
These statements from Rabbi Weissman.
So what I'm first going to show you is there was a caller.
Now this individual called into an Israeli news station.
She's been interviewed by Channel 12.
But her interview of note was actually on the radio.
It's Yasmin Porat.
She was actually at one of the kibbutzes, one of the villages where a massacre took place.
Oh really?
You know, lots of Israelis murdered.
But the way she recalls what happened It's a little bit different than Hamas going around and killing all the people.
What she recalls is that Hamas was actually treating the Israelis rather well.
That's not Edwards saying it.
It's not Lauren Witzke saying it.
It's not even Rabbi Weissman saying it.
And she says, undoubtedly.
What we're going to do is, this hasn't been done yet by any U.S. outlets because not only will you be accused of helping Hamas, you'll be accused of spreading misinformation.
This episode might even get flagged, but what we're doing is we are going to show you, for the first time in U.S. media, We're going to show you what she said, and we're also going to read you from the transcript of this interview with Yasmin Peratt, an eyewitness of the massacre.
She says the IDF killed Israeli citizens in Crossfire.
Not Hamas, the IDF. For an hour, they were banging about 10 terrorists on the reinforced safe room.
There were screams in Arabic and it was a very tense hour.
We felt great fear.
That's indescribable.
After an hour, they managed to break in and they removed the four of us to a nearby house where they were already eight other additional hostages.
We joined those eight and we were about 12 hostages with 40 terrorists that were guarding us.
I'm keeping the story short.
Did they abuse you?
They did not abuse us.
They treated us very humanely.
Meaning?
Humanely?
Really?
Yes.
By that I mean they guard us.
They guarded us.
They give us something to drink here and there.
When they see we are nervous, they calm us down.
It was very frightening, but no one treated us violently.
Luckily, nothing happened to me like what I heard in the media.
Horrible.
Horrific.
Things occurred.
True.
But after two hours, briefly at first, there were no Israeli security forces with us.
We were the ones who called the police together with the abductors, because the abductors wanted the police to arrive, because their objective was to kidnap us to Gaza.
Meanwhile, one of the terrorists decided to surrender, the terrorist I made connection with.
Over the course of those two hours, I connected with some of the abductors, those that guarded the hostages.
Yes.
and he decided to use me as a human shield.
He decided to surrender.
I am not aware of it in those moments.
It's in retrospect.
He starts to disrope.
He calls me to him and he starts to leave the house with me under fire.
At that time, I yelled to the Yaman, the Israeli commandos, when they could hear me to stop firing.
Yes.
And then they hear me and stop firing.
I see on the lawn in the garden of the people from the kibbutz, there are five or six hostages lying on the ground outside, just like sheep to the slaughter, between the shooting of our fighters and the terrorists.
The terrorists shot them?
No.
They were killed by the crossfire.
Understand there was very, very heavy crossfire.
So our forces may have shot them?
Undoubtedly.
When they tried to eliminate the abductors, Hamas?
They eliminated everyone, including the hostages.
Because here was very, very heavy crossfire.
I was freed at approximately 5.30.
The fighting apparently ended at 8.30.
After insane crossfire, two tank shells were shot into the house.
It's a small kibbutz house, nothing big.
You saw it on the news.
Yes.
Not a large place.
And at that moment, everyone was killed.
There was quiet, except for one person limping.
Hadass the god in the garden.
How were they all killed?
From the crossfire.
Crossfire, so it could also be from our forces.
Undoubtedly.
Really?
That's what I believe.
Boy, it sounds so bad.
Yes, and everyone died.
And you, thanks to that terrorist who decided to give himself up.
Exactly.
And you survived, and all the rest were killed there.
Except for one other woman who survived.
They found her later, trail, you know, off in the field.
The person who dealt with the event checked her or something.
They found her when she lifted her head amongst all the bodies and then simply...
And your partner, who was with you?
Killed.
He was killed too?
Yes.
Everyone was killed there.
It's just horrible.
Have you returned to Cabri?
I returned to Capri, and then the chaos started there.
In the north?
Yes.
So now I'm a guest.
I'm being hosted in a lovely way in Kibbutz Eid Harad, and I'm here for now.
You're in Jezreel Valley now.
All right, Yasmin, you've undergone a horrific experience.
True.
You lost your partner.
You saw people killed alongside you.
And I. What happened to that terrorist who gave himself up?
He is still arrested and he was just called in for interrogation to help.
You know, he will be interrogated about the accused.
And sadly, dozens more of my friends were killed because...
Dozens of friends?
Yes, because it's a community.
The trance scene.
We go to the same parties.
It means that besides my partner, I knew dozens and hundreds.
You know, we read a transcript that is not going to be read by anyone.
Not the propagandists on CNN. No.
Not the war hawks on Fox News.
Definitely not Congress who is basically sitting by as U.S. weapons and troops are being sent to the region.
They don't want what we just read, Lauren, that aired in Israel to be seen by Israelis.
It's interesting I haven't heard that they actually had Hamas hostages too.
Yes.
And they were interrogating them.
You don't hear that anywhere either.
And if you remember back to the transcript we just read, the terrorist, the man who, you know, taken hostages, he was surrendering.
He got naked, is what she said.
He started derobing.
And she said specifically, you know, she's someone who was at the festival and fled to the kibbutzes, that she was treated well.
She's given water.
She was treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention.
This is very important because, of course, the Israelis are trying to rebuff any claims of war crimes, the bombing of hospitals, schools.
They bombed Planned Parenthood, by the way, too.
You'd think the left-wing in this country would be angry about that.
But the war crimes Israelis have committed, they're rebuffing by saying, no, Hamas committed war crimes.
They killed 40 babies.
No evidence has been presented for that yet, by the way.
What, are you a terrorist Hamas supporter?
That's what they're going to say.
No, that's the first response you get.
Listen, we're the people that survived COVID. Everybody remembers the babies in the incubators.
They took the babies out of the incubators.
There's a lie.
The people calling from their cell phones on the plane in the Pennsylvania field.
All of that.
You know, those are the same people that told us that.
And they get mad at us because we ask for evidence.
You did this to us.
Maybe if the media...
Told us the truth instead of propaganda.
We wouldn't have to question everything we see because we can't trust you.
You lie because you have an agenda and you want us to go to war.
You want us to send our kids to die.
Well, if you're going to do that, you're going to show us proof.
And that doesn't make me a terrorist supporter for saying that.
Look, we're doing our job.
Because you're not going to hear this anywhere else.
And yes, because we are going to be demonized.
Lauren was already demonized by, I would say, basically the Israeli government.
If Amir Tasfari is attacking Lauren Witzke, then you best believe the Israeli government is attacking us for speaking about this.
But again, as I suspect, many in Israel have actually seen this interview.
You're not hearing more about it because they're afraid of being arrested.
There's a reason why they're pushing through an emergency law to put those who question the war and its morality and the ethics of all of it.
Yeah.
They're talking about putting them in jail.
I do want to point out one more thing from the transcript.
Did you notice the time that Yasmin Porat mentioned that the rescue occurred?
5.30.
She said the shooting occurred at about 5.30 and that they started surrendering.
They started saying, you know what, maybe they're over their head.
5.30 in the morning or is this 5.30 in the afternoon by this point?
You know, it looks like it is 5.30 in the morning, but I suppose it could be in the afternoon.
That would be way past the seven hour clock.
I was freed at approximately 5.30.
The fighting apparently ended at 8.30.
So it's possible it's in the afternoon, it was in the evening, which is even worse.
You know what Charlie Kirk mentioned there, that he got criticized for, saying seven hours.
If it was 8.30 at night, my goodness, that is almost 15 hours after.
If it was 8.30 in the morning, and this is why Yasmin Porat, an eyewitness to the massacre, and again the Hamas soldier who surrendered, they should be interviewed before we deploy to the military.
Both of those situations are problematic, and this is why.
The Israeli Special Forces...
specifically in hostage rescue and let's say are trained in treating a situation like this very carefully so that Israeli citizens are not killed in the crossfire it appears that they were engaged in some serious collateral damage and it's interesting because she said after two hours briefly at first there was no Israeli security force with us We were the ones who called the police together with the abductors because the abductors wanted the police to arrive.
So this is two hours later and they still haven't even called.
They had to call the police to come.
To the actual kibbutzes.
And there's something big that was revealed there.
Think about this.
I do think they're talking about the morning.
I do think they're talking about the morning because they're going to be held for about two hours.
The attacks weren't going on into the night.
They're talking about when they first infiltrated.
It appears that the Hamas fighters thought they were only just going to take...
Hostages.
Which backs up what the rabbi said that it started at 530 in the morning.
Yes.
And think about this.
There is calls, because you know everything is recorded in Israel.
You know there's calls to Israeli police saying, hey, we are being held hostage.
Our hostage takers actually don't want to kill us.
They want you to come and they want you to negotiate with them.
So they came at 5.30.
Because their whole thing, like the Twitter community note and their timeline, the Wikipedia timeline, says it's about 7 o'clock.
But at 5.30, they were already in and taking hostages.
And then two hours later, they had to call them because they said, oh, okay, we want to start doing some negotiating.
Two hours.
So they were there at 5.30.
They sent the special forces.
So Yasmin Perat saw the Israeli special forces.
She was screaming at them, don't fire, don't fire.
But she witnessed that they did fire.
And they killed a lot of the people that were killed in those villages.
Now, you've seen the body bags.
By the way, you've seen the body bags organized into words.
They've laid them out as art.
Desecrating the corpses, by the way.
It's absolutely unheard of.
Can you imagine what people would have said after a mass shooting in America if the body bags were then put outside and said no guns or something like that?
She didn't mention anything about any of the Hamas terrorists killing any of them.
She didn't.
She said they treated them well.
The only thing she mentioned was that it was crossfire that killed.
It was just heavy, heavy crossfire that killed everyone.
After hearing her testimony, this is just a fair analysis, it appears to me that at least the contingent that Yasmin Perat engaged from Hamas, their intention never was to take hostages back across the border.
She says that they were trying to surrender.
She says, and I would pose this, is it possible that they figured out something was up?
After they attacked and they saw no security guards, it appears to me based on this testimony that their intent the entire time was to go in, take hostages at the kibbutzes, and then hold them and do a negotiation from the kibbutzes, not take them back across the border.
This is completely contrary to what the IDF and what the government's saying.
The government is saying a complex attack occurred where Hamas had planned all along to take civilians back and put them in buildings and kill them and torture them and do all kinds of terrible things.
That's not what an Israeli eyewitness is saying.
Yeah, she is saying that when they tried to eliminate the abductors, she said they eliminated everyone, including the hostages.
They shot Jews.
Jews shot Jews.
They didn't want to leave anybody to survive.
Whoa, Ed, this is huge.
What is going on?
They wanted to get rid of witnesses.
And it wasn't police who showed up with special forces.
Special forces who might be trained.
So Hamas came there, took hostages, was trying to negotiate, made them call the police to negotiate, and then they sent in special forces to just massacre everybody.
Sounds like a call did go out, and it was...
Quick.
Get rid of any white witnesses.
Now, she luckily survived.
Yasmin Perat was able to share a very interesting testimony.
Thank God she wasn't killed by the idea.
Maybe they realized too many had died.
Maybe they'd realized that killing Yasmin at this point was going to compound the problem.
Maybe they didn't know where she was because she wasn't in the crossfire.
That's how she survived.
Yeah, and she wasn't supposed to be in the kibbutz.
Think about that.
So he was arrested.
The terrorist that had her was arrested, and he's getting interrogated right now.
You don't hear that on the news either.
You don't.
And I have several more things I want to share here.
So this isn't just coming from people like Yasmin.
There are other Israeli soldiers that talk about security.
They talk about how it's ridiculous and impossible for all of the security measures on the Gaza border to have been downed.
Okay, we talk about standout orders on 9-11 here in this country.
Remember?
Then I said this is Israel's 9-11, okay?
Is he tassily kind of, you know, leaving a little bit of a breadcrum?
Is it a form of like the Delphi communications protocol where they have to tell you what they're doing before they do it?
I don't know, but what I do know is this.
There's little bits of evidence everywhere, and investigative journalists like me are looking through it.
There was a testimony from a former IDF soldier who was based along that border.
Now, this individual, I'm going to show you just, it hasn't been translated yet, but I'm going to show you the picture of it.
So when the investigators do get to this, you're going to hear the, actually, I'll play the Hebrew, because I guarantee there's going to be people in Israel listening to this.
You need to hear this if you haven't heard it.
חברים, תקשיבו, אני רוצה לשתף אתכם במשהו שקצת מלחיס אותי להגיד אותו.
אני רוצה שתתפו את הסרטון הזה כמה שיותר, כי...
תקשיבו, רגע, אני שירתתי כסמבץ התחיר במהלך מלחמת סוק איתן, אני שירתתי בעוגדת עזה.
כל השירות שלי היה תומכת לחימה בזמן מלחמת סוק איתן שעזה הייתה, בעוגדת עזה.
תקשיבו לי ותקשיבו לי טוב.
אין מצב בעולם שיכולה להיות כזאת התקרבות לגדר, אוקיי?
מבלי שאנחנו לא נדע מזה.
התצפיתניות יושבות בבונקרים, ארבע שעות, הן לא יכולות לעשות ככה.
הן מול מסך.
לא יכול להיות מצב, שום מצב, שהיו מהירים אותי בלילה עליונה.
על חסידה שהתקרבה לגדר, על מכה כשעבר מתחת לגדר, היו מכה...
So I'm going to leave it at that.
There's more to that clip.
So if you're in Israel and you're doing an investigation on this later, you can translate this.
But I'll tell you what she said is this.
She said that she was a former intelligence officer.
She was a border observer, so she was based there.
She said, if a bird came close, we would know.
And this is according to what Rabbi Reisman told us.
There's radar, there's all kinds of measures, even thermal detectors.
She said, even a cockroach came to our fence border, we knew.
So that's how accurate it is.
A cockroach, an insect.
You have people on bikes that are coming through very loud.
She also said, how did 400 Hamas soldiers go in today?
They let the thief in to have the right to self-defense.
What she's saying there, she's saying that Israel stood down, Netanyahu allowed the enemy in.
Yep.
I mean, everything's showing that, and then it was a big cover-up job.
Now, in addition to her, Lauren, there is another Israeli intelligence officer who was serving on the border.
They're actually conducting an interview.
And in this interview, she laid out that not only did the 80% of the troops of the Gaza Division, not where they moved, they were moved before the attack.
Also, there is no way that the Israeli intelligence, Israeli security services didn't know this was coming.
And she would know.
She was in the security services.
And that's the other thing about my military experience.
I was in the intelligence forces.
The shift I told you about, about picking the phone and knowing what happens around the fence, that was only one time a week.
All the rest of my time was in intelligence work, so I know how the system works in terms of knowing about every little step that Hamas is taking in the Gaza Strip.
We have human informers and, you know, many other tactics to know what is happening in the Gaza Strip.
You know, I don't need to go into the details.
People who see spy movies know, but it all exists.
And so for one year, this has been planned and the Shabak or the 8200 or whatever, the intelligence forces did not know, the Mossad did not know of anything.
Highly, highly, highly unlikely.
Okay?
And then you asked, you said something, you mentioned something about they are supposed to bring in the forces even if there were so many breaches.
Where were the forces?
So I want to answer to that.
The Gaza division was actually moved to the Judea and Samaria area near Jerusalem almost in its entirety.
60 to 80 percent of this battalion Was moved to that area.
Some of the most professional battalions in the IDF were moved there to secure illegal outposts in the Samaria and secure a member of parliament In a village called Hawara, a Palestinian village, because it's one of those member of parliaments that likes to provoke.
And, you know, he's a settler, he wants to be there in the middle of a Palestinian village, and so he needs protection from the army.
And so a lot of, you know, that's one of the things about the current Israeli administration that has a lot of ministers Or members of the parliament that are extreme, it's right-wing, like they're settlers.
Oh, hardliners.
Yeah, oh, completely.
And so they're very provocative and they demand a lot of protection from the army, from Benjamin Netanyahu, and he succumbs to their demands.
And so a lot of the forces that were supposed to be around Gaza were not there.
And this, I would point out, again, I don't think you have to be a military strategist to figure out why you wouldn't want to move that entire force.
Even if you had to borrow half of it, you would certainly leave the other half there and you would leave them in an activated state because there's a diminished capacity.
That does not seem to me like that requires a tremendous amount of understanding.
The other thing is, to move that force on the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, Seems preposterous.
Correct.
So that interview was recorded before the censorship came in.
So there's a lot of footage, a lot of things that you can still look at based on this new information you've now learned.
I mentioned about some military officials looking European, looking like they might have been involved in facilitating some of the actions done that day.
There is something that actually came out through Jared Kushner's interview with Lex Friedman.
I haven't had a chance to watch all three hours of this interview, and I'm sure there's a lot of very interesting foreign policy in it, but I did get a chance to watch the intro.
And there is a little nugget that I think Lex Friedman wasn't intending for this to come out.
I want you to pay attention to the gate, the hole in the fence.
On Saturday, October 7th at 6.30 a.m.
Israel time, Hamas fired thousands of rockets into southern Israel.
The rocket attack served as cover for a multi-pronged infiltration.
See that gate that was open?
It looked like a hole in the fence.
This is where they infiltrated through.
This is a still of that moment.
Who are they?
IDF. Who are they?
They look at their equipment.
Could they be Hamas?
Could they be very well-equipped individuals of this?
Maybe.
But also they look like IDF soldiers.
They're dressed just like the Gaza Division are dressed.
What's odd is you're clearly seeing Hamas soldiers go in and out of that hole, yet you have these soldiers almost guarding.
That entrance.
See, these would be questions you'd want investigated before you commit a nuclear apocalypse, as some things which are being threatened right now.
And two, before you start an all-out war which could suck the whole world into it.
Who were the soldiers?
What did Benjamin Netanyahu know?
Who were the people that showed up at the kibbutzes?
Was there a stand-up?
These are just a couple that I'm wondering.
No, no, you're absolutely right.
And now we have people like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro calling for a nuclear war unless America sends military aid.
So basically they're saying, if you don't send this to us, we're going to nuke everything.
And they do have the Samson option, which I don't...
I think that might be all a distraction, though.
So everybody's looking at Ben Shapiro saying, look at what he said, nuclear war, nuclear war!
When in reality, the real story is the cover-up of Netanyahu.
And I think that's what you really stumbled on something today, Ed.
And I don't think anybody else is going to break this.
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Edward?
Yeah, so I wanted to end by describing a little bit about this pre-operation.
You know, there was a former CIA agent, Philip Giraldi, who shared a very interesting statement on this.
I think it was to Judge Napolitano, of all people.
I think this is a very interesting clip.
I want to show this and I'm going to explain something that was happening before the world was put into this crisis.
Would Bibi Netanyahu have been cold-hearted enough to have allowed the slaughter of some of his own citizens in order to acquire the pretext of international respectability, which would be used to justify this kind of an invasion?
Well, in my personal opinion, I think Bibi Netanyahu is capable of anything.
He's a liar.
He's a thief.
He basically, as far as I believe, the Israelis knew about 9-11 before it happened.
They didn't warn the United States, their closest and best ally, and they allowed 3,000 Americans to get killed because Netanyahu felt it would tie the United States to Israel in terms of its war on terror, and he felt it was a good thing.
That's my judgment based as an intelligence officer at that time.
That is basically what occurred.
So I give Netanyahu no credit for humanity or anything else.
And I think he's quite capable of killing some of his own people to get what he wants.
Other intelligence analysts agree.
This isn't wild.
This isn't anti-Semitic.
It's logical.
And I would address this.
Few know that the very military, the conscripts, individuals who would have been based along the border to be massacred or maybe sacrificed by the Israeli government, by Netanyahu.
Few know that some of those people would have been among those protesting Benjamin Netanyahu back in May of this year.
Israeli military caught up in divide over Netanyahu's plan.
That's AP. Cracks are emerging in Israel's military.
Reservists threaten not to serve if government plan moves forward.
What government plan were they talking about?
Well, as it turned out in Israel, only a couple months ago, the government was trying to change the law that Benjamin Netanyahu would be able to overrule the Supreme Court.
Funny enough, the same figures came out to defend it, both in the United States and in Israel.
I'm talking about people like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin.
They said, it's ridiculous and it's misinformation to say that Israel is becoming dictatorial, tyrannical.
You also recall, wasn't it only those same five or six months ago that Israel was trying to ban Christians from coming to the country?
Public sentiment was turning against Israel.
A war, however, has kicked that Christian support right back into gear.
You have the Israeli flag welcomed back into those pews in this country.
But there's more to this.
Did you know that the Gaza Strip was being looked at as a place for Israel to develop a multi-billion dollar gas line project?
They don't know this.
They don't know that the one thing impeding that project was Hamas.
They don't know...
The $60 million from Qatar was committed to set up a pipeline in Gaza.
It wouldn't be the first time we went to a war for oil.
And it wouldn't be the first time that the very belligerent that is now being used to justify the war was set up by the very government that is now trying to use them as the villain.
As it turns out, in the case of Hamas...
This is the history.
Hamas was seen by the Israeli government as the favorable alternative to the peaceful and organized government of Yasser Arafat.
Yasser Arafat wanted to back a peaceful process, a negotiation to a two-state solution.
Fatah was his military arm, but they were very peaceful.
Hamas was the alternative.
Hamas was the group that wanted to stay armed, stay violent, and operate separate.
And even so much so that the Israeli government sent Mossad generals to negotiate with them only a couple years ago.
It's very odd for Israeli intelligence to be meeting with the very terrorists now that they're claiming are preparing to kill all the Jews in Israel.
But it makes sense if you look at the history of Hamas.
It's not Edward Zoll's opinion, but that of Herats, that of international experts, that Israel funded and created Hamas.
More than just Israel, by the way.
That Benjamin Netanyahu himself was a direct component to the growth and to the weaponization of this group.
It's more important than just that.
You have to realize that Benjamin Netanyahu is holding on to power right now only because of this war.
That emergency coalition that we've laid out to you, what they're describing is that an emergency government that was unable to be formed in any other way.
No one in Israel was going to work with Netanyahu, let alone make him prime minister.
They indicted him, Lauren.
They were going to try to put him in jail.
He got his very opponents to support him, at least for now, because of the threat.
The war overrides everything.
But he's not going to get away from some of the Israelis that remember the past.
Haratz's editorial board, for example, said that the main person responsible for this attack is not even Amas, per se.
It's Netanyahu.
Many people are questioning What Netanyahu did and did not do, but I know this is true, Lauren.
The information that we presented here today is being spoken about, quietly but very seriously, in the kibbutzes, in the homes in Israel, and in the homes of Americans who don't want to send their young to die in another war in the Middle East.
But most importantly, we have presented to you credible evidence of a stand-up.
Yep, end of inside job.
Truly this was Israel's 9-11, that's for sure.
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Alright, I think we've put a lot of very compelling information out there.
We say all of this with no malice in our heart, no hatred at all.
We present this because we're truth tellers.
We have Jesus Christ to be accountable to.
We're not crazy.
We're not insane.
What you just heard is something you're going to hear nowhere else.
And I thank you for sitting through it.
And I want you to pray about it.
I want you to pray about the information we presented.
Make sure you share this story far and wide.
That eyewitness testimony is the biggest news ever.
It was an inside job.
They killed them all.
Wow.
Wow.
I knew something was fishy.
God told...
I knew it.
Like, the Holy Spirit was, like, pulling on me.
I was like, something's off here.
Something's off here from the beginning, and I knew it.
So, guys, make sure you share this far and wide.
Tell everybody.
It's pretty clear that there was a somatic stand-up.
Yep.
They stood down.
Thank you so much for joining us today on Crosstalk News.
As Lauren said, share this with your family, share this with your friends.
Hopefully by next week we will not have gone into a full-blown war.
Hopefully the actions to move U.S. troops to Israel as peacekeepers will not amount to an expansion of the conflict.
I pray for peace.
By the way, I didn't get a chance to talk about this yet.
I will mention this in the close.
Your prayers do work.
I 100% believe the reason why the offensive has not yet begun is because God intervened and sent rain.
This footage was not a weapon.
It was not even the Israelis.
They didn't want this to happen.
Rain stopped the tanks of the Israeli government from going into Gaza.
Rain stopped the soldiers from being able to set up points of invasion.
Rain stopped the reserves from mobilizing.
Rain has stopped the attack for now.
It hasn't stopped the massacres that have come from the bombings.
Of churches, of hospitals, of apartment buildings.
But, you know, the Lord, I think, answers our prayers.
We need to be praying.
We need to be fasting for peace and pray that the Israeli government would first not make the decision to kill all these unarmed Palestinians, but two, that the Israeli military themselves, that they would be shut down.
I think our God can do it.
Yeah, no, no.
I mean, the guy who controls, the one who controls the weather sent the weather.
And, you know, they had turned off their water.
They were without water.
They were weak.
They were just getting bombed, invaded.
And then God sent, like, essentially a flood to stop them.
Isn't that interesting?
It is interesting.
They did cut off their water, but God had another idea.
It's like, actually, I will turn those pipes back off.
Yep, it's true.
Our Lord has done so much for us.
He's done so much for us already.
We share with you all the time about our testimony.
If you've watched this today and you're not a Christian, consider following the Messiah that came.
The Messiah that will come again.
Jesus Christ.
Follow him and you will be saved and you'll spend eternity in New Jerusalem with us.
Do not Die in this world with all the chaos and terror without knowing your Lord and Savior.
He died on a cross for you.
The true sacrifice.
A real sacrifice.
A good sacrifice for the sins of mankind.
Jesus Christ died for our sins and he died so you could live.
Make that decision today to follow Jesus Christ.
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