Americans Taken Hostage: Should US Invade Gaza to Rescue Them?
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Unless you've been living under a rock the last couple weeks, of course you know of all the things going on in the Middle East, Israel and the Gaza Strip.
The question is, what happens next?
And although I am not an expert on what the government is going to do, in fact who is these days, There are some questions, and today I think that maybe we should talk about it because it is something that is really going to affect the world in which we live in, maybe.
So today we're going to have a discussion about the goings-ons of the world.
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Okay, so as we all know, in recent days, Israel has become under attack and is being war-torn.
And the question around many communities, the question around the water cooler or the copier or whatever at work...
What has been, in many places, as far as I'm aware, is what's going to happen next?
Is the U.S. going to get involved?
And the answer to that question is, maybe.
The country of Israel, to my understanding, holds a pretty strong strategic value to us and many others in the world.
But not only that, but we've been allies with Israel for a long, long time.
And we also have...
As many of you probably know, we also have many Americans in Israel, dignitaries.
They would be foreign dignitaries there in Israel.
You know, government officials, government employees, students, I believe.
There is a lot of Americans that are everywhere around the world, but in Israel for sure.
And as of Wednesday or Thursday or something like that, I believe the American body count was up to like 22 people.
And there is many more missing.
Or, I shouldn't say missing, but unaccounted for.
And so that starts to raise red flags, in my opinion, to, of course, certainly the families and friends and loved ones of these 22 people or the handful of people that are missing.
Whatever that number is, I don't know.
But if it's one or a hundred, that's too many.
And so I would imagine that those families are certainly On the edge of their seats asking and wondering and hoping for a safe return of their loved ones, but also wondering, well, what the hell are we going to do about this?
And my instinct is, my initial feeling is that, of course, well, shit, why don't we go get them?
Why don't we go get the people that are missing?
We have in our repertoire of military forces, we have some pretty elite soldiers that can do some pretty amazing things.
And sending some of them to rescue Americans doesn't seem to me like a waste of their efforts.
But people like me and people like you, they don't make those decisions.
And there's probably a good reason why we don't make those decisions.
Because to the best of my knowledge, those decisions are made with a much larger group of people in mind.
Those decisions are made with...
Our country as a whole in mind.
I think that it raises red flags and I think that people are concerned.
But what is that threshold that our country uses for when it's time to take action?
The fact that 22 Americans have been killed due to this outbreak of fighting And the fact that there are many people missing or unaccounted for has certainly caught the attention of places like the State Department and other government officials.
But is it enough to activate our military forces to go and Find the folks that are unaccounted for and make sure they're accounted for and get them out of there.
Along with any other Americans that are hunkered down in place there.
There's rockets coming in.
There's fighting in the streets.
There's all kinds of stuff happening.
And I don't have a good answer for that question.
I don't know what that threshold is.
And...
There isn't a whole lot of people that do know that are willing to talk about it.
But I would say also that there's a potential there for being a slippery slope because a lot of those actions have pretty, in my opinion, could have some pretty intense reactions to It was said by officials or whatever you want to call them in Iran,
for example, that any involvement by the U.S. will lead to unimaginable things.
I don't care to repeat all of them.
And so those types of things, I think, weigh in on the decision.
Now, why is Another question that is being asked is, why is all this happening now?
I don't know that anybody believes that the region was at peace.
I don't believe that anybody thinks that Israel and Gaza and Palestine or whatever you want to call it, that Hamas and Israel were at peace and they were just coinciding and there was no tension.
I think that there always has been tension.
And I believe that there probably always will be.
But to the best that I can figure out is that this stuff is happening because...
Israel was engaged in peace talks with other Muslim countries and other Muslim organizations or whatever you want to call it around their area to try to ensure that their people don't have to live in fear that their children can grow up and have some Resemblance of a good life and they don't have to live in this type of
environment where buildings are blown up and rockets are coming in and your parents might get kidnapped in the night or in broad daylight and executed on live TV or in the public square or on the front step of your house.
Something like that.
And I think that that is not necessarily a bad thing, but Groups like Hamas and Iran and other places that align with their belief system and their way of thinking, of course don't want Israel to be at peace with other Muslim countries because then what would they have to fight about?
You see, to the best that I can figure out, This war in what folks like to call the Holy Land or the Middle East or whatever has been going on since the beginning of time.
It is now the year 2023 and Folks in this area, in this region, have been fighting this battle since before our great-great-great-great-great grandparents, and maybe even probably long before them, have been walking this earth.
And so at times I think to myself, well, what makes anybody think that we can stop it now?
They've been fighting this war over religion or beliefs or whatever it's about since the beginning of time.
Since we've begun to document time.
Folks in the Middle East have been at war.
And pretty brutal war, mind you.
There's nothing about what happens in these areas when these folks are fighting that is PG, right?
As we know, as we've talked about, a war is hell.
War is ugly.
War is violent.
War is gory.
It's gruesome.
And if you're going to fight If you're going to fight in a war and win it, you have to be the most destructive.
You have to be the most violent person or group of people if you want to win.
And I think that there are many people around the world, especially here in the U.S., in our own communities, that can't quite grasp that.
And that's okay.
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The cause that you're fighting for is going to die.
The people that you are fighting for are either going to die or they're going to have to assimilate to a new belief system.
This war that they are fighting there, everybody fighting it is all in.
And nobody's going to back down, it seems, or they would have years ago, a long time ago.
They either would have killed each other off or seen that, hey, we're going to keep having children, right?
We're going to keep our people, our culture alive, right?
We're going to raise the next generation to hate you.
We're going to raise the next generation to fight and be more violent and more powerful and more gruesome than we are.
And we're going to beat you.
And generation after generation after generation on both sides of this thing are doing the same thing.
And here we are.
Hundreds and hundreds of years later.
And if we survive, if civilization survives hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years in the future, it'll probably still be going on.
There might be lulls in the battle, but it'll still be going on.
I'm confident of that.
Or it would have ended already.
But what does it mean for us?
What does it mean for America?
Now, there are some pretty wild conspiracy theories out there.
I'm not one to switch out my baseball hat for a tin foil hat.
Some of these theories, you read them, or you hear them, or you listen to them, or someone brings them up in conversation, and it gets you thinking a little bit.
You know, like, well, I suppose maybe it's possible that A, B, or C could happen.
Here's one that I heard the other day that was pretty interesting.
Last week, I don't know what the date was.
I can tell you here, one second.
So last week on the 4th or 5th of October, so it'd have been two weeks ago maybe now, we got an emergency broadcast message on our cell phones.
Everybody in the country should have gotten it.
This is the alert system, right?
It was a test.
And so everybody got it.
Well, so the theory is now that The flooding of immigrants and illegals, the flooding of illegals into our country, especially at the southern border, is all kinds of people from all over the world.
Officials at the southern border, like sheriffs and border patrol agents, even farmers and business owners, doctors, nurses, people who work in hospitals, any other kind of public service where they have to assist the public, all have said that the folks that are coming here across the border, hundreds of them a day, maybe even thousands a day in some places, Are from all over the world.
They're not just Mexicans.
They're not just Venezuelans.
They're not just Hondurans.
But they're from all over the world.
And so the theory I heard the other day was that this emergency broadcast message that was a test that we all received on our cell phone on the 4th or 5th or something like that of October was of course to test the system.
But it's something that possibly will be used later to start the infiltration, if you will, or start the attack.
The infiltration is happening, according to many, many people.
Okay.
And so what I didn't know that I was made aware of is that when folks are coming across the border and they do some kind of in-processing, which doesn't seem like it's a whole lot of anything, they are handed some kind of electronic device, whether it be a cell phone or something like an iPod or something.
I believe it's some kind of cell phone.
Like we had a few years ago with the Obama phones, right?
All these homeless folks and And drug dealers and whatever else could get a free cell phone from their county, wherever in their county they were handing them out.
And so when and if the U.S. gets involved in this conflict in Israel and the Middle East, we will receive another one of these emergency messages,
maybe another test, But there'll be some secret code in there or something that tells all these people who are getting these free phones or other folks around in the country that have been meaning to infiltrate us to start the attack and then here we go.
Now we're being attacked on our homeland from within for getting involved in this war or maybe even just because.
Okay.
And I believe that the view of America around the world, especially in the places where folks aren't very fond of the red, white, and blue, and the stars and stripes, is that we are vulnerable.
Is that we are in a moment of weakness and we are not the great superpower that we were in the 40s and the 50s.
And that an attack on the U.S. would wipe us out.
Maybe not by death toll wipe us out, but our access to food and water, power, medical care, medical supplies, fuel, Things like that.
And it would just crush our economy, therefore making us a third world country.
And I believe...
Now this is just my own take...
But I believe that if something like that were to happen...
And it was planned...
The whole purpose...
Of that type of plan...
Is to get America to destroy itself.
I think that our greatest threat to our livelihood, to our country, to our own very well-being, is ourselves.
I think that all these outside influences...
Have done a pretty dang good job at making sure that we are divided.
A country divided cannot stand in unity, right?
If we leave our houses every day to go to work or go to school or go do whatever you do, go to the gym, And you have these thoughts about the people in your community that you dislike or that you hate.
Hate is a strong word.
I don't like using it often, but we're already going down that road.
Does that make sense?
Like, yeah, I believe and I agree that If rockets and missiles and bombs and people parachuting in on these motorized gliders, whatever they're called, and taking our loved ones hostage or executing them in the street, of course that would be horrible.
But I think that America is strong enough, or stubborn enough maybe is a better word, That we're not going to just allow that to happen.
We're going to defend our own property.
We're going to defend our land.
And for the most part, I think that we might defend our communities.
I don't know that we're that divided.
That we're going to just allow an attack.
I don't think it would be something where like, hey, if you want to come attack us, just leave my house alone, but my neighbor's an asshole, so go ahead and attack his place.
I don't know that that's going to happen.
But I think that all these things happening in the last few years has drove a wedge between Americans that many times seems like it's not fixable.
I don't know what it's going to take to repair things to where we can all coincide together and at least have respect for each other.
It's becoming even more common day to day to open your Instagram or your Facebook or turn on the news and see, you know, black kids beating up white kids on the bus or vice versa or, you know, and not even just like black folks against white folks, but just people against people, right?
Like, Latino kids against black kids.
I mean, it's craziness.
Our kids can't even ride the bus to school safe anymore.
And so, you ask yourself, where did all this start?
And how did we get here?
And the only thing that I can really come up with, other than COVID... And who the hell wants to talk about effing COVID anymore?
The only thing I can think of is that all of this started because a relatively small group of people, compared to the grandeur of our population in this country, a relatively small group of people hated Donald Trump.
And that's where it started.
At least that's the way it seems to me.
I mean, we've always had, for many, many, many, many, many years, people hate each other, right?
And there's always that one or two people in every neighborhood or whatever.
There's always been a little bit of division going on in our communities, right?
But not like this.
And as we've discussed before, our enemies see all of it.
Our enemies see our camera phone videos we post, the pictures we post, all the bullshit that the media puts out.
For every positive Picture or video or meme or whatever you put up into the universe via your phone or your computer.
There's four negatives.
And so then the question becomes, how do we combat that, right?
How do we fix it?
And I don't know.
I don't know what the answer is to that.
The only thing I can think of is that individually, we keep living right.
You keep doing what's right.
Those of us that are doing the right thing and treating people the way they want to be treated, treating people the way you would want to be treated, having some common courtesy and some respect, having the idea that we can agree to disagree, but we can still share a beer with Together and talk about your local baseball team.
We'll talk about the Twins.
Or how bad the Minnesota Vikings are this year, for Pete's sake, man.
Whoever thought that would happen?
They suck.
Well, I shouldn't be surprised.
I've been a Vikings fan for 40 years.
Shouldn't be surprised at all.
Anyway, we've gotten way off in the weeds, folks.
We need to take a break.
Stick with us.
We'll be right back.
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Hey guys, welcome back here.
Sorry, we kind of got off in the weeds at the end of the last segment.
But it's easy to do, right?
I mean, because all of these things...
I believe that all these things that we talk about, they have ripples, right?
And this ripple effect just keeps moving outwards.
And as it moves outwards, there's other things that are affected.
Other issues come up.
And...
And I think that a lot of times we do ourselves a disservice maybe by not getting off into the weeds and discussing what could happen, right?
And having a plan to prepare.
And I understand that sometimes it's not always helpful.
It's not always advantageous to live in the what-ifs.
But when things like this come across, having some of that forethought, in my opinion, isn't always a horrible thing.
And having a tentative plan in mind isn't a horrible thing.
But let's go to the next thing.
So, another thing that I've been reading about that people have been mentioning and discussing is that the government, the American government, is going to reinstate the draft.
The government's going to start the draft again.
Ah, this sucks.
We're all screwed.
And not only are they going to start the draft again, but the rumor is...
They're going to up the age to like 35 years old.
And they're taking everybody, men and women, and trannies, and furries, and whatever else.
And honestly, the first time I got engaged in this conversation, that was the weeds that we ended off in.
We ended up going off into the weeds about, well, what if I don't identify as a man or a woman?
What if I hate my wiener and I cut it off and I don't have anything, you know, just a valve to let my pee out?
Then what if they're going to take me?
Because all I have is a valve.
And so, I mean, and I can see it getting that silly, right, if it happens.
But I don't necessarily think that a draft would be a horrible thing.
I think that military service just might be something that many people in this country might need.
Because the military teaches you a lot of things, right?
And we've had these discussions.
Jason and I have had these discussions.
Ben and I have talked about this.
Other guests and I, and I've talked about it on my own on the show.
But some of the things that the military teaches you, in my opinion, don't get talked about very often.
Some of the greatest benefits from serving in the military, even for a year or two, are things that don't really get talked about a whole lot.
I mean, yes, you learn a skill, and whatever that skill is, you learn that.
The benefit to that is that if it's a skill or a job or an activity or whatever that is helpful and useful in the civilian world, that you would have to pay to learn in college or trade school or whatever, you get actually paid to do that.
You get it not for free.
I mean, you pay in blood, sweat, and tears.
But it doesn't cost you anything monetarily.
So that's a benefit.
Especially for folks who are into IT careers or medical careers, especially IT and communications careers.
The things in which those people learn through the military are absolutely amazing.
And so, real quick side note, if you or anybody else Is contemplating careers in the IT field like cybersecurity or networking or database management or whatever.
I guess I don't know what all of the IT careers are.
Those are just a few that came up on the top of my head.
Consider joining the military for four years because every qualification, every license, everything, program that you need to know that's super expensive to learn and get licensed in are things that they will pay for you to learn and they will teach you.
And when you leave the service, if you decide not to make a career out of it, you get to keep all that.
And so then you can go and Use it all in civilian world and continue to make an amazing living.
Probably a lot better than you would make in military or government, for sure.
But some of the things I think that are most important that you get out of military service that we don't really talk about a whole lot are things like resilience.
Things like integrity.
Just some of those personality traits that help you to deal with everyday life on a level that just doesn't end your world.
It doesn't end your day.
Resilience is one of those things.
That I learned through military service that I still use.
It's valuable.
So anybody that served, especially in the Army, when I mention resilience, I'm not talking about the resilience training we had to do, although I thought some of that was pretty valuable.
But I was coming from a place where I was providing social work type services to veterans in my civilian career at the time.
So I found it helpful for that.
But if you apply it to your life, some of the things that they taught us or talked about are helpful.
But this idea that it doesn't matter how much you hate getting up at 4.30 to run two miles.
It doesn't matter how much you hate being in a mosquito-infested foxhole in the woods of Oklahoma because you're not leaving.
So you have to figure out how to deal with it.
You have to figure out how to do your job to the best of your ability and put forth the best effort that you can.
And at the same time, believe that the person on the left and right of you is going to do the same thing because they're depending on you just like you're depending on them.
And so sitting around and whining and crying and bitching about the mosquitoes in that Oklahoma in July sucks because it's hot and humid and there's bugs and mosquitoes and who knows what's crawling out of the clay that we had to dig for three hours in to build our foxholes.
And my water's hot and the guy, my battle buddy, is not pulling his weight and I've got to do his work and this just really sucks.
What the hell did I sign up for?
Most people probably had that line of thinking more than once throughout their time, especially at basic training.
But then you finish that, right?
You finish basic training, you finish your advanced training to learn your job, and you get off into your unit.
Whether you're active duty or reserve component, and Even when I was on drill status, right?
I had some years under my belt and I was going to my weekend drills or my two-week summer trainings.
Man, there was some shitty, shitty times.
But you can't leave.
You can't quit.
You can't just give up.
And so you have to figure out how to deal with it.
You have to figure out how to perform.
And you have to figure out how to persevere.
Or you die.
In real life.
Right?
All these training events and all this other stuff.
Well, you're always simulating and you're always training for the real thing, which is war.
Right?
95% of the time is what you're training for.
And so, there's no quitting or you die.
There's no quitting or the person next to you, they die.
Just like you're in big trouble if they quit.
And those types of things are not...
Prevalent in our communities amongst civilians, many of them today.
We are turning into this culture of people that just like to whine and complain until they get their way.
And that if I whine and bitch and complain enough, somebody's gonna just give me what I want.
And then it turns into, well, I'm just gonna take what I want.
I'm just going to do what I want.
Because nobody can tell me any different.
This is a free country.
Well...
It's true.
This is a free country.
or at least it's supposed to be.
But...
The truth is...
That everybody around you is depending on you to be a decent human being, just like you depend on them.
Everybody around you is depending on you to pull your weight, be a contributing member of the community.
Now, we all have our issues, we all have our problems, we all have our stories.
And it is what it is.
But there are many people, in my opinion, that walk around our communities, our neighborhoods, our offices, and just navigate life doing whatever they want.
And I think that that is part of where we got off track as a country, as a society, as a community.
Which in turn guided us away from the idea that we are this immense superpower.
And I think that we've learned in the Short past, the short couple years in the past, that we're not as super as we once were.
And as time continues to go by, I think we just keep learning how less super we are.
And all this is a problem because the world is watching.
And so, maybe a draft is not a horrible idea.
So then the conversation becomes, well, you know, if they're going to draft a bunch of people that don't want to be there, then what good is our military force going to be?
Well, that's a valid point.
And there's ways around it.
There's ways to manage it and to figure it out.
They did it during Vietnam.
There was many people that left.
Draft Dodgers that left the country.
A lot of folks were really pissed off about that.
And I can understand why.
My take on it is, if you go, don't come back.
You know, I mean, I can appreciate the fact that many people didn't intend on serving in the military.
They didn't want to.
Okay.
They didn't believe in the war that they were going to be forced to go and fight in.
Okay.
But your country's in need.
Your homeland is in need.
You've been asked to stand up.
And I don't know.
I guess if it was me, I'd have taken my draft card and I would have went to where they told me and I would have done what they would call me a sheep, if you will.
But keep in mind that this was amongst one of the greatest times in our country.
I understand that there was a lot of crappy things that happened in our country around the Vietnam War.
But I would say that the time between World War II and Vietnam might have been, arguably, one of the greatest times to be an American.
And, you know, I wouldn't know for sure.
I wasn't here.
I wasn't alive yet.
But talking to people like my father-in-law, who has really good stories about how things were back then, It makes it very appealing.
It makes it very appealing to have been a young adult in that time.
And I think that the values in which our country lived by and the people that inhabited this space, this area, this country lived by was a whole lot different than now, of course.
But everyone seemed to be a lot happier.
Everyone got along, right?
And there was, from the sounds of it, there was a lot of, like, hush-hush conversations going on about this, that, and the other thing.
But on the surface, out in the community, at least everybody respected each other.
And you could agree to disagree.
You could go to the local pub and have a beer.
And you could talk shit with your neighbors and your buddies, even the guys that you didn't really care for all that much.
And nowadays, if you go into a pub or a bar or any establishment and have a disagreement, you may get shot, you may get stabbed, you may get your ass kicked by 10 people.
Who wants to do all that?
Not me.
So anyway, the idea of a draft, in my opinion, is not horrible.
There are many countries in the world that require their citizens, when they become of age, to serve in the military.
I believe that Israel is one of them.
When you graduate high school, I believe the way it works is when you graduate from high school or secondary school, whatever they call it there, You do at least two years in the military and then you get on with your life.
But everybody must contribute.
Everybody must put in their weight.
They must not put in, but they must pull their own weight.
And I don't see a problem with that.
Not at all.
So, I guess I'm asking, do you guys, the audience, you guys watching, listening, do you believe that a draft would be helpful if we do you believe that a draft would be helpful if we go to war, if we need I mean, listen, our forces are at an all-time low in the last 30 years.
Recruitment numbers are...
At an all-time low.
Now, I believe that the government, even though they admit that recruiting numbers are down, they're not admitting how far down they are.
I believe that recruiting is probably worse off than what they're reporting.
But that's neither here nor there.
At some point, there is going to be a reason For us to put our military into action.
In fact, just earlier this week, what did I have it right here?
The 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, which is capable of Special Operations, so they have Special Operators, SF, or Force Recon, I believe, is the Marine's Special Operations folks.
They were doing a very large training event in Kuwait and were abruptly reassigned.
Now, this doesn't really say where they were reassigned to, but they are somewhere in the vicinity of Bahrain.
So that tells me, and that should tell all of us, that US military involvement in this conflict is likely.
And I don't know, man.
I don't know what's going to happen next.
But I think that we should be aware of all these things.
And have some kind of plan.
Now, I don't want to put all of this out into the universe and try to put out the idea to all of you that you should be prepared for, you know, these rebel soldiers falling from the sky like Red Dawn.
But what I'm saying is that now more than ever, our world...
That we live in is...
It's not...
What's the word that I'm looking for?
It's not predictable.
And so if you are somebody that has a loved one, family, or friend, or anything like that, on that side of the world, not necessarily just in Israel or close to it, but on that side of the world...
Make contact with them.
Make sure that everything is okay, at least.
Because you never do know.
You never know what's going to happen.
And also, folks, again, I hate to get political.
I hate to get super political, but...
All the ideas, conspiracies, if you want to call them that, about the current administration being corrupt, the whole government being corrupt, I don't necessarily disagree with all of it.
Some of it I don't agree with.
I do agree with one thing, that the current administration does not have our best interests in mind.
And so, when things like this happen around the world, there is no telling what the hell could happen or who's involved and where the ripple effect may end next.
So, do yourselves a favor and at least try to stay informed the best you can.
But also keep your bullshit meter charged.
Make sure that you plug it in at night because the plethora of propaganda, the plethora of conspiracy theories and just random ideas and things being put out, who knows what the truth is.
So you gotta sift through it yourself.
And figure it out.
But I'll tell you one thing.
One thing for sure is a country that is divided as we are cannot stand united.
And so my challenge to you is just to try to be a better neighbor if you can be.
Try to be a little more understanding.
Try to...
And I understand it's hard.
And I'll be honest with you guys, full clarity, I have a very difficult time some days just dealing with people in general.
In fact, I've told my therapist not too long ago that my ability to cordially deal with People out in the community is deteriorating as time goes by because things just keep getting more and more and more ridiculous.
So I'm with you.
There's bullshit happening everywhere and we need to just be aware of it.
And so I guess I am not a thousand percent sure that I accomplished my goal for the show today.
My goal today was to To just kind of talk about these things that were on my mind that are currently happening.
We did do that.
I don't know that I provided any good answers to any of you about what's really happening, but maybe just some things to think about.
We've run out of time though for the week.
Please just take care of yourselves guys and thank you again for joining us.
We'll be back again next week.
I believe that we're going to have Jason next week.
Don't hold me to that, but I believe that that is on the schedule, right?