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Oct. 10, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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So the crisis in Israel is ramping up three days after Hamas' massive offensive out of the Gaza Strip, which, if you believe the official story, killed 800 to 1,000 people and seized 100 or more hostages.
Now, on Monday, Israel began to strike into Gaza with a series of major airstrikes.
The country has mustered tens of thousands of military reservists and placed the entire city under siege.
The plan is now to invade Gaza with as many as 100,000 troops.
For a country of Israel's size, that's like if America invaded somewhere with three and a half million troops.
It'll be their biggest, largest military operation in decades.
So far, the war against Hamas has remained relatively contained.
There are major fears that it will expand to include the West Bank or Hezbollah in Lebanon or even Syria and Iran, but for now that hasn't happened.
But it's not for a lack of trying here in the United States.
America's war hawks are absolutely overjoyed about what happened this past weekend.
They smell blood in the water.
They smell an opportunity to ignite the biggest war of their lifetimes.
Over on the Fox News Channel, Raytheon butt-slut Lindsey Graham is calling for America to immediately launch massive airstrikes on Iran.
Well, for every Israeli or American hostage executed by Hamas, we should take down an Iranian oil refinery.
The only way you're going to keep this war from escalating is to hold Iran accountable.
How much more death and destruction do we have to take from the Iranian regime?
I am confident this was planned and funded by the Iranians.
Hamas is a bunch of animals who deserve to be treated like animals.
So if I was Israel, I would go in on the ground.
There is no truce to be had here.
I would dismantle Hamas.
This is the best opportunity Israel has to destroy Hamas.
Take it to the Iranians.
If you harm one American in Syria by using your Iranian militia against us in Syria, If you escalate the war by urging Hezbollah to attack Israel in the north, if Hamas kills one American and Israeli hostage, we're going to blow up your oil refineries and put you out of business.
It is now time to take the war to the Ayatollah's backyard.
Take it to the Ayatollah's backyard.
Then we have this lunatic Nikki Haley calling this attack on Israel an attack on America.
No, it wasn't.
This was an alleged attack on Israelis in Israel, on the other side of the planet.
If some Americans were caught in the crossfire, yes, that's a tragedy.
But they were collateral damage.
They were not the target, period.
Haley, just like all of these other hawks, is being a reckless lunatic because she is bloodthirsty.
She craves a massive war that she herself has no intention of fighting or dying in.
Like the rest of our fake leadership class, she believes that it shows toughness to spend other people's money on a war that other people's children will go and die in.
But it's not just politicians, though.
There's reckless people who, instead of fostering peace, are salivating at killing as many people as possible.
This so-called pastor, Greg Locke, is calling for the extermination of more than 2 million people in retaliation for these deaths.
So I hope Netanyahu's the leader and he just mows the whole thing down by this time next week.
If you think all this open border stuff is not an opportunity for a bunch of Hamas sleeper cells to come into this nation right now and start killing innocent men, women and children, you have lost your mind.
I'm sick of all these Christians saying we ought to have peace with Islam.
Islam is a satanic death cult and they would cut your head off before I said amen in this sermon if they had a chance to.
That isn't warfare.
It's genocide.
I'm sorry, but real Christians don't believe in unlimited retribution.
We don't believe in exterminating entire peoples because of the sins of their leaders or murdering children for the sins of their parents.
Hamas might believe in that, which is why Hamas deserves to be destroyed.
But if we embrace that same ideology, then we are embracing the same barbarism that makes Islam the backwards death cult that it is.
One of the only people who's remotely calm about what's going on is exiled former Fox host Tucker Carlson, who gave his own remarks on X. Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw took to social media to call for what he described as a war to end all wars, as if there is such a thing.
But of course, there isn't such a thing.
Wars beget more war.
The bigger the conflict, the uglier and longer-lasting the consequences.
See World War I for details.
Now, a year ago, Tucker's words would have been seen by the entire Fox News audience.
Well, now, thanks to the Washington censorship apparatus, he's been exiled to the website formerly known as Twitter.
So now most of the world isn't seeing Tucker's warnings.
They're just seeing the psychotic bloodlust of warmongers in Washington.
John Miller is a former host at The Blaze and a former contributor to Fox News.
He goes further than we would.
He argues that Israel actually had this attack coming.
He joins us now.
John, thank you so much for coming.
Explain that.
I think that at the end of the day, when I said I think I said that they did this to deserve it, it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek because they have been basically fanning the flames of war in the region.
You know, I'm not an expert on the Middle East, and so I've asked many people, can you just explain to me, in very simple terms, as if you were explaining it to a fifth grader, how this war affects us, what we did to merit involvement in this war, Because you go on Twitter, and you watch cable news, and you see all these people, and like you said, it is this bloodlust.
They are foaming at the mouth.
They're saying, oh, we need to turn Gaza into a parking lot.
And it's this deranged insanity.
And so I'm thinking, why are these people so mad?
And if they explain it to you, if you've come up through the ranks of conning like I have, you get told very simply...
These people hate you.
These people despise you because you're American.
They hate the West.
They hate capitalism.
They hate Christianity.
And so they want to kill you.
And so obviously that stirs up some sort of frenzy because people are thinking, oh, they want to kill us.
They want to destroy us.
And then you kind of do some nominal research on the topic and realize it's not that they hate us.
It's that we put Israel in the region to basically stir everything up.
And they are resentful about the fact that Israel is there mucking with all of their relations and imposing everything on them.
And it's just...
They're an instigator, and not to mention the age-old fact that, yeah, they literally are the ones who killed Christ.
I think we talked about this the last time I was on, and read Matthew 27.
They say that we are responsible, and our kids will be responsible, and our progeny will be responsible for the death of Jesus.
That's kind of what I was alluding to.
But they are absolutely, they are pushing buttons, they are causing problems in the region, and that's why they hate us.
The only reason that we are hated in that region is because of the existence of Israel.
Because we put Israel there, because we protect Israel, because Israel is who gets all of our munitions, all of our money, and it's completely destroying relations in the region.
So if anything, they are the problem creators.
And we continue to cause problems there by saying, well, if Israel is attacked, we need to turn Gaza into a parking lot.
We need to genocide their people.
And it's really none of our business.
And I'm an isolationist enough to think if it's not affecting us...
And it's not our problem, then why do we need to send a hundred million?
That's on top of the hundred something billion that we've sent to Israel over the years.
Why do we need to send them an additional hundred million dollars worth of munitions to help them fight this war that isn't ours?
And I've never seen people so animated by this.
You know, you have Ben Shapiro.
Who says, you know, he doesn't care about the, I think he says, I don't give a good GD. You know, Jews, they don't put the O in God because they think that's offensive, but somehow blaspheming the Lord is totally fine.
I don't give a good GD about the browning of America.
But when it comes to Israel and when it comes to what's happening over there, I've never seen him this apoplectic.
I've never seen him this animated.
I've never seen him this mad.
I mean, you think he was dropping F-bombs on Twitter.
But his show was, like, off the rails.
His show was the most insane thing.
He's basically speaking in tongues because he's so mad, and you realize there's something greater at play here.
What do you think it is?
I think there's a religious allegiance.
I think that the Jews in America feel a religious fealty, a religious loyalty to the Jews over in Israel, and that's where their real passion lies.
I don't think they have a sense of American patriotism.
I think at the end of the day, they're looking after Jewish people.
And then we see Lindsey Graham, who was talking about the oil refineries.
So obviously, it's a moneyed interest.
It's a Washington elite Business interest.
Raytheon, the arms dealers over there, they are the ones who are benefiting from this.
They make a lot of money off of this.
So I think it's twofold.
I think there is an absolutely racial allegiance to the Jews in Israel that really gets these people going.
And then I think that it's making a very few amount of people a lot of money.
Yeah.
We've said it before.
I want to say it again just so our audience is clear.
If you want to make good money, you want to make quick cash, go sell dope on the street.
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If you want to make even bigger money, then get into the big pharma game.
If you want to really, really make the most money that you possibly can, sell the finance contracts and the weapons that are required for war.
I mean, that is what is actually happening here.
And those munitions are being used to kill innocent people.
Now, We support no wars.
I just want to be very clear here.
We don't support if Hamas perpetuated these attacks, then they ought to be dealt with.
And Israel should go and find them and eradicate them and do whatever they have to do to defend themselves.
But us getting involved, how does the United States' involvement in what's happening in Israel make Americans safer?
And how does the war in Israel that's happening right now endanger Americans, John?
Well, they keep on telling us, oh, well, they're going to attack us.
I think since I was maybe 11 years old, I've been told if we don't keep them at bay, they're going to come over here and they're going to bomb the United States and they're going to kill all of us.
And I live, if you look at my, if you, you can go on the internet, I don't know if it's Twitter or whatever, you can find pro-Israel statements from me from a long time ago because I was told forever that if we don't support Israel, they're going to completely obliterate the United States.
When is the last attack?
That any Middle Eastern country has perpetuated on America.
Some people say 9-11.
Well, if you look into 9-11, it's not as black and white, and it turns out Israel is behind 9-11 anyway.
So they're the ones causing the problem.
So if anyone, and again, it goes back to the initial statement I made, if anyone is causing these problems, if we are at risk for anyone attacking us, Not to mention, you look at the cyber attacks, you look at the USS Liberty, you look at 9-11.
It is not Iran.
I don't think there has been, to my knowledge, I might be wrong, I don't think there's been an Iranian attack on U.S. soil.
There has been an Israeli attack on U.S. soil.
There has been an Israeli attack on U.S. troops.
There has not been an Iranian attack.
There has not been a Palestinian attack.
So, for all my life, and I think a lot of people can relate to this, we have been told Look, we've got to be there because if not, we're going to be completely destroyed.
And it's just not true.
So there is no risk.
If we left the Middle East, I don't think they would be coming over here and destroying America.
That if we use the military as it's properly supposed to be used by securing our own borders and developing the military intelligence and infrastructure that are actually working on behalf of protecting the sovereignty of our borders and the people from any harm that might come from her physical invasion.
I've got one minute left here and I just want to ask you.
If Benjamin Netanyahu can openly on X display videos of him committing war crimes and bombing civilian structures that contain innocent women and children in them, why does he continue to get this passed?
Well, you know, I say on Twitter, you know, I think we need to maybe look into the disproportionate power held by Jewish people.
And I'm at risk of getting banned, but Netanyahu and all of his minions and all of the conning influencers can go on Twitter and talk about how we need to genocide all of Palestine.
And it just comes to show you it's completely one-sided.
I'm seeing all of this on Twitter happening.
And then at the same time, Ian Miles Chong is quote-tweeting Elon Musk saying, you know, these anti-Semites after these events in Israel, they really need to be taken care of.
So we're still at risk by just questioning, do we really need to get involved?
We still have to worry about our accounts being banned.
But Netanyahu and all of the others can go on X and talk about genocide.
It's really interesting the timing too.
Remember the Ben Shapiro and all of the rabbis and everybody on that Twitter spaces, that really face-melting awkward thing?
Isn't it funny how that happens?
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, bang, this unprecedented attack where low IQ goat herders on hang gliders are able to infiltrate the most secure borders of any country on the face of the planet.
And these rockets just evaded the impenetrable Iron Dome all of a sudden that we have funded nearly 100%.
There's so much to unpack here.
I wish we had more time, but yeah.
Me too.
John Miller, come back again and we'll unpack more.
Appreciate you being here.
Thank you.
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So, this new conflict in Israel is revealing a whole lot about how people really are.
There's people out there who supported Ukraine loudly last year and are now eagerly, of course, cheerleading Israel's war as well.
But there's others who opposed supporting Ukraine but are now supporting Israel or vice versa.
And then there's this handful of people like us at this program who are actually consistently America first and want to stay out of these wars.
One interesting dimension of this new war is that it's really not clear whether it's good or bad for the dictator in Kiev, you know, homosexual actor Vladimir Zelensky.
Now, sure, it could be that US Republicans will be so desperate to send money to Israel that they'll also agree to send more money to Ukraine as well.
Or it might be that America diverts the money that would go to Ukraine toward the Middle East instead.
It's not clear.
Which is why the other day Zelensky actually made public remarks trying to blame the new Hamas offensive on Vladimir Putin.
He knows that it's his best bet to argue that both of these conflicts are just two fronts in a much larger war.
Owen Benjamin has a new comedy special, Noble Savage, coming out on the 13th.
You can find that at owenbenjamin.com.
He also has some pretty distinctive takes on Ukraine, Israel, and this new war unfolding in the Middle East.
And he joins us now.
Owen, thank you so much.
We always appreciate having you.
Oh, thanks for having me.
This is great.
Yeah.
I mean, do you think that Israel allowed this attack to happen by Hamas or whoever it is that we're going to blame this on?
And do you think that Vladimir Putin is now directing these actions in the Middle East?
Well, there's so many layers to it because one, Israel kind of acts like that crazy woman that if you don't give her money and attention, she's like, you literally want me to die.
That's rhetoric that's going on that people should be inoculated to, where people act like you hate Jews or you hate Israel if you don't want to be involved in their nonsense.
It's very much like a stripper who just wants attention.
It's pretty crazy.
But this quote-unquote attack, they haven't even proven what happened.
I mean, they're now saying that, like, babies are beheaded.
And I remember Iraq, the babies and incubators nonsense, where they said that the Iraqi soldiers came in and bayoneted babies and incubators, then later said it didn't happen.
And so all of this coming out, you see paragliders with dudes in flip-flops and a gay rave.
And I don't think they've proven what has even happened.
And if something did happen, it's insane that it was allowed to happen because...
What do they spend their trillions of dollars on in defense if they can allow the unibrow boys to come in on a paraglider?
It's just crazy.
I've talked to Israelis, and they even see it.
They're even in a position where they're like, how could this happen?
And the rhetoric that it's their Pearl Harbor, I'm like, you don't even know how true that is.
Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen to get us into World War II. Same with 9-11, of course, to usher in the Patriot Act and unprecedented spying on Americans.
And to answer your question, I mean, this program has said multiple times over the last 48 hours, we've pointed out, and it's worth pointing out again because we want to be very clear, The Iron Dome has been very successful at, you know, thwarting, you know, would-be rocket attacks that would be incredibly deadly for Israelis.
And for some reason, that didn't work this time.
And also, Israel has one of the most secure borders of any sovereign nation on the face of planet Earth.
So for hang-gliding, you know, goat herders to be able to, like, low-IQ people to be able to, like...
Pull this off.
It's a head-scratcher.
Is it possible that this is all a false flag that was intentionally set up by our intel apparatus and our State Department in cahoots with Israel in order to siphon off billions of dollars for NGOs and these fat cats in the DC Beltway?
Yeah, that's absolutely possible.
I mean, Vox Day, he came up with a new term called a green flag, where, you know, if something happened, but it was allowed to happen, and then false flag is completely fake, and it's probably somewhere in the middle there.
I mean, when they said a bulldozer went through the fence earlier, It's surrounded by drones and really advanced technology.
I mean, the Israeli technology that they have for defense is mind-blowing.
And the fact that these guys from poverty, basically, like, imagine an Indian reservation, like those guys, like with a souped-up Honda Civic, you know, they came past Israeli defense.
It was definitely intentional.
And to what end, I'm not really sure.
I mean, Netanyahu has a lot of problems there.
Does he want to divert attention and make himself look like a hero?
Is it his enemies?
Are they trying to get involved in Iran?
Are they trying to scare high-level Jews back to their homeland in Ukraine?
Because that's an odd theory I threw out there, that Ukraine just coincidentally was denazified just in time for a potential Kazarian homeland departure.
Who knows?
But We just shouldn't bite.
I mean, this is the same script they keep running, and I just don't see why America keeps biting on this stuff, especially these quote-unquote conservatives.
I mean, America's southern border is just a mess.
I mean, just millions of people flooding in, and like 200 guys allegedly come over in a paraglider, and now everybody's willing to die for Israel again.
It's just madness.
Yeah, they're talking about 100,000 Israeli soldiers now being a part of this boots-on-the-ground offensive, this operation in the Gaza Strip.
That would be like, if equally proportioned, that would be like us sending 3.5 million people To go and fight a war when you talk about population per capita.
I mean, this is a huge offensive.
And then you have people on the internet that are cheering on, including Pastor Greg Locke and Laura Loomer and all of these others that claim to be like America First, cheering on like this Jewish supremacy genocidal level flattening.
I mean, have people just absolutely lost their minds?
100%.
And I've been tweeting this out.
I'm just like, the very people that tell you that you're doing hate speech for describing the guy who stole your bike are now calling a race of people rats and that they should all be murdered.
And this whole blood libel, I mean, the ironies are mind-blowing.
Like, all these Jews, quote-unquote, claiming a blood libel on all Arabs.
I'm like, because...
If what they say is true and a few hundred guys came in and did some serious damage, to then justify killing millions of children, it's total madness.
And to watch normal people, people that I consider normal, screeching for blood and vengeance and revenge and calling them rats.
I'm just like, man, this is going to bite them in the ass.
And I think down the line, that could be the point.
Like the point could be, you know, create this vicious backlash against Gaza, which will then, you know, have an even bigger backlash against Israel.
To what end?
I don't know.
But what they're currently doing, like this drone footage of them just flattening apartment buildings, civilians, hospitals.
And they're saying, oh, Hamas is using these civilians as human shields.
They're killing tons and tons of civilians.
And that's just not going to fly.
And the Gaza Strip is like an open-air prison.
They're not allowed to leave.
There's checkpoints.
There's barbed wire.
It's insane.
And they've almost kind of crossed a Rubicon where they can't really take back some of the rhetoric they're saying that they want to...
You know, basically kill all Arabs.
And that's nuts.
Benjamin Netanyahu is openly sharing videos online.
This is the prime minister of a country.
This is the leader of Israel.
And he's tweeting, or xing, or posting, or whatever the hell you call it now, aerial footage of the destruction of civilian structures where innocent women and children are, and his own people who were unable to flee What kind of precedent does that set for the future of warfare?
Oh, it's horrible.
It's absolutely horrible.
And how is he able to get a pass?
Like, why isn't anybody condemning this?
Look, listen.
This is a prime minister who's controlling a military who is celebrating the carpet bombing of civilian structures that is killing innocent people.
That is committing a war crime openly, openly in the public.
Why does he continue to get a pass?
That's a great question.
I mean, and also they didn't do any due diligence.
Their attack, quote-unquote attack, whatever it was, could have been totally green-screened, could have been allowed.
I mean, there is a possibility that Israel is just that incompetent at this point.
I have a hard time believing that, but they didn't do due diligence or an investigation or prove to the public that this is, you know, done by the Palestinians and this is where they're located.
They just, boom, they immediately reacted with massive destruction.
People are going to just look back like, what the heck just happened?
Like, how did that just happen?
And me and you are both kind of guys that don't really fall for the spells while they're happening.
And that's why, you know, I'm called all these names for being opposed to genocide.
But in two years, they'll see we're right, just like the vaccines and just like all that stuff.
But, you know, they'll just be on to the next insanity.
And I don't know, is this the end of a Ponzi scheme where...
All these, you know, America and all these people are all involved and they're just taking out people that are owed money.
I have no idea.
I wish I knew, but I think the Ukrainian homeland thing is an interesting theory that When you look at, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and those guys, they don't look like they're from the Middle East.
And there's a lot of evidence they're from Ukraine.
And I just think it's all very coincidental that that just got cleared out of the Ukrainian nation just in time for possibly a big move.
Yeah.
So the United States military is now apparently...
are there moving, you know, naval ships and battleships and carriers over toward the Middle East?
Congress hasn't declared war.
I mean, this is, you know, you're moving military equipment.
Okay, so maybe you're not launching anything.
But we also haven't declared war against Russia and Ukraine, and we're actively participating in a war there.
The purse strings from Congress, supposedly Republican-controlled, America First Congress, is wide open to all of these conflicts.
I mean, how dangerous is this right now for us here in America with open borders and with a completely out-of-control whorehouse Congress corporate crime syndicate that has allowed and actually perpetuated and deployed weapons of bio-warfare to murder innocent Americans while they how dangerous is this right now for us here in America with open borders and with a completely out-of-control whorehouse Congress I mean, why would they care if dirty bombs and weapons caches are being, you know, deployed all over the interior of our country right now?
They probably know that there is, and they're not doing anything.
Is that overstating this?
No.
I mean, they want war with Iran, for sure.
And so...
I could totally see them doing some kind of event to get America to want to go to war in Iran.
They're trying to set up this narrative that Iran is what funded Hamas, that bought the paraglider and the flip-flops.
And now, after they flattened Gaza, Hezbollah might come in as a reaction to the genocide, which is understandable.
And then they're like, oh, maybe they do a false flag on the carrier, like what they did in Vietnam with Gulf of Tonkin.
I don't know, but I think that they're going to push America until people want war with Iran, which is nuts.
And I think a lot of this has to do with the financial system of BRICS versus SWIFT. And just America's facing a debt that...
I know money is debt, but just the interest on our debt is going to be more than half of our budget in three years.
And so what are they going to do?
How do they hyperinflate out of this?
How do they bomb their way out of this?
I don't know.
That's why I live in the country.
Because I think if they're going to do something nuts, it's going to be in a city.
It could be something with a lot of emotion attached to it, like the Golden Gate Bridge or something.
Or a, you know, like a carrier or something.
And then they beat the war drums and try and get out of the hole that the Ponzi scheme they built is dug.
How about a World Series baseball game?
I mean, the options are limitless here.
I mean, the more, obviously, United States casualties that there are, American casualties that there are.
The more people will be angered.
They want to play on your emotion.
They want you to support this.
They want to say that you supported this so that they can later blame it on you.
You asked for this.
You wanted this.
And then in the background, you mentioned U.S. debt.
Who owns more U.S. debt than anybody?
China does.
China has been talking about invading Taiwan, one of our greatest allies.
And so, of course, if we deploy all of this weaponry and all of this money and all of these resources to go and defend our greatest ally in Israel...
We're going to be spread really thin, so we're going to have to dip back into the financial resources to re-up for the lost resources so that we can go and defend Taiwan against China.
It's an endless, endless war-hawking machine.
The military-industrial complex that we were warned about decades ago is rearing its head.
It is becoming a genocidal murder machine, and our own government is carrying it out.
30 seconds left.
Final words.
Please talk to us about your upcoming special.
Yeah, I think you guys are really going to enjoy it.
It's called Noble Savage.
We filmed it in a hayfield in Missouri that we crowdfunded to get the land, but it looks like a Netflix special.
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Now, prospects were good that we'd get a better speaker who at minimum would make sure that more money went towards securing our border, you know, instead of buying bombs for Ukrainian Nazis and oligarchs.
Well, now that's all in doubt.
These fake centrist conservatives who prefer open borders and endless war are now agitating for Kevin McCarthy to be restored as House Speaker immediately.
Why?
Well, so that the House can hurry up to pass massive funding packages for Israel, of course, and it's a sure bet that more funding for Ukraine will be thrown in as part of the bargain.
So the GOP, just as it was finally starting to turn against foreign wars, for real, is about to throw us into another Middle Eastern holy war of epic proportions.
At best, this is a pointless waste of American money while our border remains a sieve.
But at worst, we end up in this massive, possibly nuclear war with Iran that makes our failed wars of the past 20 years look like child's play.
Anthony Sabatini has a lot to say about this.
He's currently the chairman of the Lake County GOP in Florida and a former member of the Florida House.
He joins us now.
Anthony, thank you so much for coming back.
Always appreciate having you.
Thanks to be back on the show.
Yeah.
I mean, is this really something that's being considered?
Seriously?
I just think it's absolutely out of control.
First of all, you know, aid to Israel has been baked into the budget for decades now.
It's an automatic recurring expense.
The fact of the matter is they simply don't need anything to defend themselves to begin with.
This is really just crazy that Republicans are saying that they want to give even more money when we're in the middle of this economic financial crisis to a country that quite literally doesn't even need it to support itself, defend itself.
Additionally, you know, we should really be looking at trying to create peace in the Middle East.
If anything at all, we should try to calm the situation down by throwing more defensive, so-called defensive aid over there.
You're just exacerbating the possibility of this becoming a larger regional conflict, which is what obviously it's about to become.
It's going from terrorism, you know, isolated sort of terrorism.
Thank you.
These are war hawks.
I mean, these people love to siphon off the $200 billion plus that we've sent over to Ukraine in the first place, billions of dollars in weaponry that we've sent them with no accountability and no checks and balances.
We have no idea where the weapons ended up.
It's now plausible that these weapons have ended up in the hands of the people who are perpetrating these attacks on Israel.
Israel, as you mentioned, doesn't need any help.
I mean, they have the Iron Dome that we fund.
They have probably the most secure borders on the face of the planet while we leave ours wide open, and there's a current physical military-style invasion happening at our southern border.
I mean, at what point do the American people say, we just need to completely rethink our entire structure of government because this is no longer a body that's representative of the people doing the bidding of Americans, but instead seems to be cucking to every single foreign entity across the planet.
And no, I'm tired of this.
Israel is our greatest ally bullshit.
No, we are Israel's greatest ally.
Well, yeah, listen, I mean, Israel obviously is one of the few countries in the Middle East, or at least historically that's sort of changing now, who's been pro-America and open to the United States.
And I understand, you know, why people historically have looked at Israel as the only stable country in the Middle East.
The truth of the matter is that it's changing now.
There are other allies in the Middle East.
That we've created partnerships with.
And so looking at it from a traditional national strategic perspective, to look at them as the only country that we can have any positive relationship with is just kind of ridiculous.
More importantly, you know, we don't need to be funding what's going to end up being a very, very large war.
I mean, if we can believe anything that has been said in the last 72 hours, it looks like there's going to be a pretty massive crisis.
bombing and invasion of the Gaza Strip, where almost two million people live.
And that's just probably not something that's going to create stability in the Middle East or, you know, calm conditions that are good for us in terms of our international footprint.
So I just don't see why this sort of warmongering mentality is going on, other than, you know, the only obvious explanation is what you said, which is Republicans who are war hawks, they have some sort of material benefit they're getting out of the defense industry.
and they're pushing this I don't know.
Sometimes it's sort of a tough guy syndrome.
They feel good about themselves to be pushing and espousing war around the world, where obviously that's just not a good idea and historically has never been a good idea.
Yeah.
Is Nikki Haley prepared to go and die in this war?
Is Kevin McCarthy?
Is Mitch McConnell?
Is Lindsey Graham ready to go die in any of these wars?
Of course not.
They want to send our, you know, young men into these battles where they can die in some crap whole country 5,000 miles away that matters not to the national security or sovereignty of our own borders.
I mean, why is the military failing to do its one essential core duty, which is to protect America from a physical invasion?
Absolutely.
I mean, the obvious America First response here is look and say, okay, we see these threats abroad.
How do we secure ourselves at home?
Which means, I mean, quite literally, if you had an America First Congress, we have the opposite of that.
We have an America Last one.
If we had an America First one, the first takeaway from the situation would be seal the border immediately.
You know, keep Hamas or any other sort of terrorists who equate America with Israel from coming in and causing terroristic attacks.
That's the obvious response.
Of course, we haven't really seen any of that.
Or you'll see like a five or six bullet pointed prong of, you know, plan of things to do.
And of course, at the bottom, it'll say something about the border.
But the first five are what Ron DeSantis is saying, you know, which is that we basically either need to send our Navy into the Middle East to be prepared to fight alongside Israel or something akin to that.
For example, you know, massive material support, which would be essentially an act of war.
You know, what we've done in Ukraine, essentially declare war on Russia without actually saying it, which, of course, I believe are the complete wrong responses.
They're the absolute last things we should be doing as a nation.
What's the big picture here for Americans?
What should they be doing at this point?
People are fed up with this.
I think that there's a whole lot more knowledge now regarding the programming and continuous propagandist brainwashing over this Israel Greatest Allies stuff.
People now know about the USS Liberty.
People now know about the LBJ cover-up that happened as a result of Israel, like, literally bombing one of our ships and killing and murdering, you know, U.S. naval personnel.
And they've never really helped us alongside in any war, actually.
Not that they're obligated to, but I just think, I mean, there should be some sort of a big takeaway for Americans here.
What is it in your eyes?
Well, the biggest one is that you gotta replace the Republicans who are in office.
I mean, the Democrats are never gonna be with us, right?
I mean, they're globalists, right?
And they seek opportunities to basically involve us in global affairs every step of the way.
But only about 70, this might sound pessimistic, but only about 70, 80 percent of the Republicans are really actively that way.
We probably own as conservatives, maybe I'm being generous here, a third of the Republican Party.
We just need to solely focus on primaries and not the general and really take over the Republican Party as an American first party, one primary at a time.
Because, you know, once we get critical mass and we take over the party, and even if that means just a bare majority, then we can actually steer American foreign policy in a different direction.
But right now, that's not happening because of guys like Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, et cetera.
But which, by the way, ironically, the loudest war hawks are also people who are either not in the military or are never served people.
People like Mitch McConnell and Nikki Haley, they often are the first ones to say we need to be committing material support to quite literally a war overseas, even though they themselves will not lose anything from it.
They'll gain something from it because of their stock portfolio, that's for sure.
But those guys need to be replaced.
That's why, I mean, pretty traditional, pragmatic way of looking at it.
But quite literally, if we take over the Republican Party, we can change foreign policy.
It's just not happening right now because people still, you know, large amounts of people equate all Republicans similarly.
They think, you know, if there's an R next to their name, they're good, right?
They're America first.
Of course, we know that not to be true.
It's a construct.
It's all fake.
Republican, Democrat, conservative, liberal, elections.
So, I mean, you're running for House again, U.S. House.
You're running to be in the United States Congress.
Election integrity ought to be a big deal to you.
I mean, is there a political solution when our votes are constantly stolen and people are just reinstalled over and over again?
Very obviously.
Well, I think the French model works, right?
One day elections and hand counting ballots.
I mean, literally a lot of countries do that.
It makes perfect sense.
It's a little more labor intensive, could be a little bit more expensive, but it's totally worthwhile and it's a much more secure method.
I think there's also things we can do to improve those methods, but pushing the state towards that, pushing states, of course, states run the elections, pushing states in that direction, It's key.
You know, when I was in the state legislature, I did a bill to audit the 2020 election.
It was after the fact, but it was something that we could have done to normalize the process.
I also did a bill to create automatic, 100% forensic audits in every election.
That's also something that is a step forward in securing elections.
But at the end of the day, don't expect the United States Congress to do anything.
I think the best thing we can do to exacerbate and push states to secure their elections is to Yeah, tie strings to funding and things like that to push states to have some more secure elections.
But the truth of matter is, unless the people take over their state legislatures and replace the rhinos with people who are willing to secure elections, nothing's going to change.
I mean, look here in Florida, we supposedly are in the top five for most secure elections, yet you got a governor that says there was Quite literally zero election fraud in 2020.
I mean, that's wrong to say this is an official perspective.
And so that's just, you know, insane.
You know, but people are waking up to it.
You know, I hate to sound too rosy-eyed, but I am optimistic.
I think people are waking up.
Programs like your own are waking people up.
And every single day we add to our numbers.
Hopefully we can do it faster, but every day we do add to our numbers.
What do you think happened to the House Freedom Caucus?
You know, you had...
Now expelled Marjorie Taylor Greene from the Freedom Caucus.
She and, you know, Paul Gosar and many others on the Freedom Caucus said, no, they're not going to support McCarthy.
They all ended up cucking for McCarthy.
Now they're talking about getting this guy back in.
I mean, how concerned should people be about, you know, these entities that are supposed to be the premier fighters on the America First forefront that just seem to be like laying down and bending over?
What kind of dirty deals are being done 43 votes, was it, to get McCarthy in?
Was it 43?
And now considering after he's been ousted, bringing this guy back just so we can fund wars, what happened?
What's going on in our government has turned into this dirty whorehouse in a corporate crime syndicate.
Well, I have two thoughts about the Freedom Caucus, but I have one thought about what you're describing, which is every time we think we have these champions, all of a sudden they, in your words, cuck out.
You know, they fail.
They fail us, right?
Why is that?
I can tell you, I think there's actually sort of a formulaic relationship here that's going on.
The stakes in our country are getting higher and higher and higher.
Things are getting worse and worse and worse.
So every time the America First movement or the base wraps itself around some individual in office and, you know, maybe that person was responding accurately to a threat one day, guess what?
The threats are much higher now.
The stakes are much higher now.
And so they automatically fail.
And so, you know, Marjorie years ago was saying things that I actually really agreed with.
And she was saying, you know, things in regards to what Biden was doing, or at least going into the 2020 election.
And I think she's out of touch now with what's going on.
I mean, things are getting worse in this country.
And you look at a lot of the politicians and you realize that they're not willing to meet the stakes.
You know, in my eyes, we only have eight now because there's eight people that voted to oust McCarthy, only three-fourths of them voted.
Have good records.
Six of them have solid records.
Ken Buck and Nancy Mace made the right vote but generally have horrible records.
So you're looking at about six people in Congress that are accurately responding to the threats that are emerging in this country.
Andy Biggs, Eli Crane, Matt Gaetz, a handful of others.
It's a very small number.
Bob Goode, I think he was one of those people too.
But in terms of the Freedom Caucus, the number one takeaway point people need to understand the Freedom Caucus is not just what I was just saying, which is people get in there, they're responding to threats like fiscal sanity from the Tea Party era.
Well, guess what?
The threats are much more existential now.
They're much more serious.
And so we need more serious people.
So you have people in the Freedom Caucus who We're doing a good job 10, 11 years ago.
We quite literally are no longer, they no longer have what it takes to save the country.
But the second thing about the Freedom Caucus is it got too big.
So, you know, when it was small, it was like a guerrilla tactical unit.
And like, you know, Meadows and those guys could throw out Boehner.
They could do certain things.
We just saw it this week.
Last week with McCarthy.
But eventually the Freedom Caucus became sort of like a lapel pin society.
Like, oh, I'm in the Freedom Caucus.
I feel good about myself.
It's like 40 people.
And it got watered down.
The esprit de corps, the sort of cadre of the Freedom Caucus became sort of nominal.
It really wasn't a cohesive fighting body anymore.
And so what we saw in January 2020, 2023, earlier this year, was that only about 20 of the 40 people Freedom Caucus members were even willing to hold McCarthy accountable.
Not even vote against McCarthy, but actually extract rules changes from him.
And then of that 20, only six, the ones who went neutral in the final round, were really the ones who were truly willing to fight McCarthy.
And so, once again, I have a very...
Pragmatic answer to this.
We've got to just increase the amount of people who get into Congress and fix it.
And that means taking that core of six or eight people and turning it into 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 over time.
And I think that can happen.
The best news we have, though, is getting rid of McCarthy.
Because once you get rid of McCarthy like we did, what that does is it frees up a lot of the money, right?
A lot of people don't know this.
He spent $21 million in Republican primaries last cycle targeting just Republicans.
Just conservative Republicans, right?
Even people who were just a little further to the right than center right.
He targeted them and he took them out.
I was one of them.
I was the guy he spent the second most against.
One of them was Joe Kent, me.
Bunch of people.
Carl Palladino, upstate New York.
Most people don't even know his name anymore because...
He spent, you know, millions were spent against him and he lost his primary.
But now that we got rid of McCarthy, I think you're going to see a class of more America first Republicans emerge and be more successful in the primaries.
And then, of course, win their generals.
I didn't have a competitive general.
I only had a competitive primary.
So McCarthy spent one point five million against me just in the primary.
And that's what I think.
I think that's going to free up a lot of energy now that he's gone.
Yeah.
I just can't imagine running for and being elected and then getting to the U.S. House of Representatives and not being America first, not protecting your people, not securing the border, not opposing any foreign conflicts, not opposing 100% these bioweapon injections that have been rolled out.
Not really naming where the source of the SARS-CoV-2 genetic sequence was at Fort Detrick right here.
Not labeling the ADL enemy combatants and treating them accordingly.
Not locking up Antifa and Black Lives Matter and securing our streets and empowering the police.
This is an America First perspective.
This is what we need to be doing, and I just can't imagine not doing that.
Yeah.
I hope that we do return to free and fair elections.
This program has been on board with paper ballots.
We did it.
For how many years did we do this?
And yes, foreign countries do this all the time.
And guess what?
It's the most secure thing ever.
It's a joke.
It's a sham what we have going on.
Best of luck to you.
Thank you for everything that you're doing in Florida as well, Anthony Sabatini.
Appreciate you being here.
Thanks, dude.
Take care.
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