JESUS. GUNS. AND BABIES. w/ Dr. Kandiss Taylor ft. John Dyslin
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Hey everybody, welcome to Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
I'm your host, Dr.
Candace Taylor, and I have an awesome guest today.
It's an author.
He's written an awesome book, and so I can't wait to get into the interview.
I'm going to start with a verse that I noticed in his Bible that I was reading, and it is Daniel 11, 32.
Those who do wickedly against the covenant, he shall corrupt with flattery.
But the people who know their God shall be strong and carry out great exploits.
So, we're going to get into that verse maybe a little bit during the interview, but welcome to the show, John Dislin.
Hi, Candice.
Great to be here.
Thanks so much for having me.
Did I pronounce your name right?
You sure did.
Good.
I'm so glad.
So it's so good to have you, John.
Thank you for coming on Jesus Fins and Babies.
I'm so excited about your book.
You sent me so graciously a copy of it and I have been skimming through it.
I've been reading sections and you were like, it's not a book to read straight through.
And I'm like, well, it's really good.
Like I just, it's dense.
I want to read every single bit of it.
But before we get to talking about the book, I want you to tell me a little bit about who you are and why you got involved in an author or the calling God has on your life, wherever you want to go.
Absolutely.
Well, first of all, thank you for having me.
I'm delighted to visit with you.
And, you know, being a fellow Georgian, it's kind of, I love your accent.
It's nice to talk to somebody with the right kind of accent.
So that's fun.
So I, you know, you know what's funny, Candice, is I'm reminded of a plaque that a dear friend of mine, Magnum, gave me, which is Proverbs 16.9.
And it says, a man's heart plans his path, but the Lord directs his steps.
And boy, that has been really, really true in my life since I got saved only about nine years ago.
And so basically, I was just a regular growing up guy.
I always went to church.
I knew who Jesus was.
I knew it was the truth.
But, you know, I enjoyed sin too much.
And so I was just kind of half in and half out.
And, you know, he doesn't have a lot of, he has a lot of patience for that.
But in the end, he doesn't have a lot of tolerance for that.
So, you know, I go through life, I was a finance geek, and went into finance.
And so I did investment banking type stuff for a lot of years, and then actually started an internet company for almost a decade.
And I was coming out of that and really got shaken down to my boots because I got a little glimpse of this nefarious Luciferian world beast system through, you know, it started with 9-11, you know, being an inside job.
And at first I thought it was nonsense.
The third time I heard it, I said, enough, I'm going to go investigate this.
Sure enough, 9-11 was an inside job, but You know, along the way, along the way of learning how, you know, our so-called leaders and neighbors, you know, killed thousands of fellow Americans, I found half a dozen other rabbit trails.
I started going down those.
And I spent about a year and a half, Candace, staring into the abyss, just the blackness of it, the bottomlessness of it, the depravity of it.
It was in that that I came to some realizations.
First of all, that when Jesus says, you know, the whole world lies under the evil one, he means the whole world, you know, outside of those who are his, right?
And then the second thing I realized was that the good had to be superior to the evil, or otherwise the world would already look like Mars, right?
Like it would be an utter wasteland, like in Genesis 1-2, if it'd be tohu v.
bohu without form and void, but for the good.
And I knew that, you know, the one who brings salvation, I knew his name was Jesus.
And so at that point, ran to the cross, laid it all down, laid down my burdens, picked up my cross, and And had a kind of an Isaiah moment and raised my hand and said, here I am, Lord, send me.
And you know, in your life, if you raise your hand, he'll send you.
And so I raised my hand and he sent me and started me on kind of a Gideon journey that led to ultimately me writing Nehemiah Strong.
So, basically, you were wrecked by the love of God, if you surrendered like that, and you totally changed, which is amazing.
And you had, I mean, an older salvation experience, and for you to come and write a book and all the things that you've done.
But it sounds like a conspiracy theory, right?
That's what it sounds like.
Yeah, how could that possibly be?
Well, I mean, the evidence of it, ask my wife, you know, she tells people that I am, how does she put it?
I'm radically different than I was before.
And, you know, we've been married over 20 years, so it's, you know, there's legitimacy in it.
And, you know, the proof of...
Yeah.
And the legitimacy of it is, you know, this 480 page work that it's been really gratifying, Candice, because some of the reviews of the book have been really heartfelt and heartwarming for me as the author, because I spent about half of the two years that it took to write it thinking, is this any good?
Is anybody going to write it or read it?
And is it going to matter?
Is it going to make a difference for anybody?
And what's been really gratifying is some people have, you know, one gentleman, one of my favorite reviews, he said, I now think about God in a different way, and I haven't had a drink in five days.
Wow.
Well, that's what happens with truth.
Truth pierces our heart and it separates bone and marrow and it changes you.
Truth will wreck you in a way nothing else can.
And so what's interesting when you just said that, I was thinking about, you know, you were talking about 9-11 and all the conspiracy theories that we now know were not conspiracy theories.
But that truth will wreck you.
So when you were getting truth and you were seeing through deception, because the enemy always uses deception.
So when we see through that, it will illuminate things and it makes the word come alive and it makes prophecies come alive in the word and it makes you see things that you can't unsee.
And that's why Satan hates the truth so much.
Everything he does is manipulation of lies because if he can keep you You know, with blinders over your eyes and not see the truth, it can keep you in chains.
Yeah.
That's interesting, though.
You're seeing truth in politics, I most like, in government, and that leads you to the Lord.
Isn't that neat?
Yeah, it is.
And that's what I love about it.
You know, I'm kind of a fan through my daughter of Morgan Wallen, and he's got a song, Don't Think Jesus.
Okay.
And, you know, in that song, because I can see God, I can see Morgan wrestling with God, you know, and I'm hoping God's going to win his life.
He's going to let him win in his life.
We should send him a book.
Yeah, wouldn't that be great?
Hey, if you can figure out how to get one to him, I mean, I'm from East Tennessee like he is.
I'd love to get him a book.
Lord, Holy Spirit, open up the door for an address to send Morgan Wallen a book.
Lord, we'll send it to him.
Amen.
Divine appointment.
Open his eyes.
Somebody watching this will have an address for us.
Send it to us, guys.
Wouldn't that be great?
But in that song, he says, you know, I wish it hadn't been so hard, you know, but that's how it works.
And I think for some of us, you know, it took something that, you know, paradigm wrecking to turn me around and open my eyes to the truth.
And You know, if that's what it took, so be it.
I'm thankful.
You know, it was one of the hardest periods of my life because I came awfully close to just, you know, like losing my mind because it was to stare into that abyss and to see the reality of the depravity and the depth of the evil is, you know, it's the walk through the valley of the shadow of death of Psalm 23.
But so be it.
And seeing it and walking through it and then walking through Counter-abortion work, which is the first thing I did after raising my hand, and then counter-human trafficking, satanic ritual abuse, which was the second thing I did after raising my hand, really hardens you.
As a kind of spiritual warfare person, you get the gist of it.
You appreciate the soberness of it and the seriousness of it, but also you appreciate God's endgame and his Ultimate, absolute dominion and his victory that was already won.
And so when you put all that together, yeah, it's, you know, this season we're in can be no fun sometimes, but, but Jesus.
That's right.
Yeah, I was, there's so many things and so many directions I can go about.
Okay, Lord, where do you want me to go with this?
But I guess we'll just start here.
I was thinking about my husband and I are opposite.
He's a worshiper.
He's so gifted.
But he is not a spiritual warfare guy.
He's a God is love guy.
He loves everybody.
He wants to tell everybody about Jesus.
He prays for everybody.
He wants to worship.
And I have a gift of discernment.
And I probably have an apostolic governmental anointing that's been prophesied over me numerous times where I'm like hardcore.
Let's take authority.
Let's take a dominion.
The blood is everything.
And, you know, the devil's defeated.
So let's take authority over it.
We shouldn't be, you know, not saying that.
But I feel like we should take authority, and we should speak it, and our words matter, and we have to decree things, and we have to do things that's all spiritual law, and I'm one of those people, and let's go into the courtrooms of heaven, and let's pray, and let's take authority, and I want somebody to be delivered and set free and completely healed.
I have a type 1 diabetic daughter that I know God's will is for her to be healed, not to have type 1 diabetes, and so I want to see a miraculous healing with her, and All these things that I, and he believes in healing for sure, but he gets aggravated with me because I'm like, I can feel something.
There's something heavy this week.
I can feel it.
Or, you know, let's anoint the house again.
I think something's came in or gotten attached somehow.
He's like, okay, like the Holy Spirit's here.
We're here.
We got authority.
So what do you say about that?
Because there's these paradigms, like they're different, but it's all truth.
It's all, you know, so you're trying to figure out, we both have gifts.
It's like spiritual, trying to figure out how to Balance that, but you're a spiritual warfare guy, too, so you feel me.
So you tell me, like, how do you balance this?
Well, that's a good question.
You know, I do think there's a balance.
I do think, I think, you know, for example, what I see in terms of scripture of how various players on the field, warriors on the field, Dealt out spiritual warfare in kinetic spiritual war,
whether it's the Gadarene demoniac or whether it's that woman following Paul and his assistants around for days, decreeing that they had, you know, the word of God and bring in the good news.
And finally, he just wheeled around and said, out of her.
And it was done.
So, you know, on the one hand, I think oftentimes in the spiritual warfare element, I think it can be simple and quick.
It doesn't have to sort of take over your life and be all-consuming.
And, comma, I would say to your husband who maybe doesn't have the gifting, you know, he doesn't have the gifting directly, but you know, you and he are cleaved together.
You and he are one.
And so as a betrothed couple, He does have it through you.
And I guess, excuse me, I would exhort him to take it more seriously to give you more, you know, credence from the stand, not that he's not the head of your household, because he is, you know, God says he is, but to recognize that you're a great blessing to him in that way.
And he should give you Due regard, when you say there's something dark in the house, and if he doesn't have that discernment, he ought to be like a blind man with his hand on your arm saying, there's something dark in this house.
He should just trust you in that because you're saying it straight up.
You're saying it only for your all's good, right?
And his glory.
And he does.
He does kind of look at me like, Really candy, like, again, but I had my best friend and I are very much like this, and so she actually had a dream that I was anointing my property, not just my house, and this is after I ran for governor, and we did, it was like late at night, the night she told me, and so I said, I called it the next day, well, I forgot, and so later that day, I was like, Ryan, we've got to go anoint the property.
He's like, It's dark outside.
You want to just anoint the house?
I'm like, no, we've got to walk the property.
That's what Jessica saw us doing.
We've got to do it.
So we got anointing on.
We went out.
We prayed over the property.
I dropped some oil on the ground.
We did this.
And it was later that night that I was swatted and I had attempted murder happen on my family.
And of course, they were not successful, but the Lord knew that I needed to anoint my property.
And I know that I had linked dangers around this property because I claimed it and I spoke it.
I know what the word says and I know that we were protected and my children are alive and I'm alive.
My husband's alive today to talk about it because, you know, the enemy tried to kill my family and weaponize my wonderful, you know, police that want to protect us against us.
That's what they do when they swatch you.
And so there's just things like that.
That's not a mistake.
It didn't happen by coincidence.
And so, you know, you have these testimonies later to tell, like, aren't you glad we prayed over the property?
He's like, yes, I'm glad we prayed over the property.
So, but, you know, you get those options sometimes, and we're not obedient to them, or we, like, brush them off, and then we'll think, I knew not to do that, or I knew the Lord said this, and I did the other thing.
And so just being sensitive to the Holy Spirit and, you know, His voice and His His nudging is so hard to walk out, but it's something that as Christians, like you said earlier, and that was something else I wanted you to talk more about, was sometimes we think, you know, God's a gracious God, He's a loving God, and He's all the things, and, you know, we make mistakes, and He just keeps forgiving us over and over and over, but He gets tired of that.
I think you're right, John, and I think the church doesn't really talk about that, because maybe people don't want to tithe when you tell them that.
I don't know, but It's the truth.
He wants us to be righteous.
He doesn't want us in pain.
He wants us prosperous and all the things, but we choose not to have that because we choose to live outside of our identity.
Yeah.
Well, and outside of his design.
And so, for example, and look, I go to a really right, well-administered, Bible-based church.
And so there's a lot, there's an incredible amount of good there.
It's exceptionally strong.
As churches go today, it's just top fraction of 1%.
And yet, and I'm not really talking about my church, I'm talking about churches, but in this season that we live in, Candace, I know you know this, so I'm not saying anything you don't know, but for the benefit of the people listening to us sharpen iron, We are living in a season when things like spiritual warfare, awareness that evil is absolutely flooding into the churches.
It's flooding into the schools.
They're coming after our kids.
They're trying to destroy this nation.
They're trying to tear down the families.
You know, I could go on and on and on with that list of depravity.
This is a season for people to get equipped with things like spiritual warfare and discernment like the Sons of Iskar that they might know, recognizing the times, that they might know what to do, and they all became warriors, okay?
That's a model for us.
And I get really frustrated because I know in the conventional channels, i.e.
in the church, in the pulpit, in the sanctuary, nobody With exceptions that prove the rule, nobody is teaching about these things, discernment, the signs of the times, and spiritual warfare, that their people would be equipped.
And I believe, Candice, the sheep are going to be scattered, and it's going to be on the heads of a bunch of pastors that they didn't know better.
Absolutely, because they're held accountable.
You know, a lot of people want to be called pastor, and not saying it's not a really hard job, because if you're doing it the right way, it's a full-time, 24-7, all-the-time job.
But there's a lot of pastors that have really big congregations, and they don't really pastor.
They like to get up and speak on Sunday morning.
everybody look at them while they speak and they're up on a pedestal and everybody else is below them.
But listen to what I say and that kind of pastoring.
And you really don't see any fruit as far as healings or deliverance or anything that's, that's of any really any work worth.
It really, you don't see it.
And the words skated over and it's not really taught.
And it's just the real dynamic sermon that they give.
We see that all over, but when you're called pastor and you say that's your calling and you're taking money from the church as a salary to do a service, you're really in a, you're putting yourself in a very high level of accountability in my opinion and Well, and scripture backs you up, right?
They'll be judged more harshly.
Yes.
Even me, when I ran for governor, the Lord put it on my heart to do that.
And even now, like I do this show, and I'm the first district chair of the GOP, and I'm trying to lead people when I'm, as a public servant, doing that.
And I'm saying Jesus, Guns, and Babies, and I'm saying I love Jesus, and I'm standing for Him and trying to do the right thing.
I'm putting myself out as a Christian, and I'm saying His name.
I better act that way, and not just act that way, be that way in my heart, because from out of your heart, it flows out.
And so I think we as Christians, it's like Christian-y, it's like, yeah, I'm a Christian, but you're not really.
You don't really have a relationship yet.
And we're definitely, I feel like, in a place of great revival coming and really seeing, like you said, the darkness in the church, the darkness in the schools, the darkness in the communities, pornography is through the roof.
We're seeing parents that they don't even pay attention to the cell phones.
They're giving these tablets and these cell phones to these children, and they're looking at all this Japanese anime porn, and that's why they think they're a furry, and there's all the things they're doing that parents don't pay attention to.
They're going to be held accountable for that.
And the Bible says it's better to tie a millstone around your neck than let one of these fall.
So you got the parents doing that.
You got the pastors not leading and not wanting to say, hey, Roe is overturned.
We need to say no more abortion in America.
Nobody wants to talk about that.
All these things, I 100% agree that we're going to be held accountable.
And at the level that you're operating as a Christian, you're going to be held accountable to that.
Absolutely.
And, you know, it's funny.
I had a really...
I had a lot of sobering moments as I wrote this book because I deal with a lot of serious subject matter.
One of the things I felt confronted by, frankly, was when I was writing a section that I didn't anticipate writing when I first started writing the book, and it's a section on spiritual authority, okay?
The authority that God has given us through his son, Jesus Christ, and he said, you know, all my authority I give to you.
Not as the world gives.
You know, he said, works like these and greater than these will you do.
And so, clearly, scripture after scripture after scripture, he exhorts that we are given his authority to be, you know, the term Christian, it means little Christ, it means little Messiah, little picture of Jesus.
You know, if we are Christians, then we should act like Christians, and part of that is Exercising his authority in this physical realm while we're here, this brief moment in time, to do great works, to heal, to speak his word, to rebuke the demons out of places and people, etc., etc., etc.
And one of the things that was most compelling to me, Candice, about as I studied that out and I recorded it in the book, in that section, was...
He doesn't give us that authority like you might get a free three-day stay at a timeshare.
It's not optional.
He expects us to utilize it, to wield it, to whatever degree our understanding and expertise in quite the right word, but our knowledge and our preparedness, our gifting takes us But we are expected to pick that up and use it.
And first of all, virtually nobody knows and or accepts that we have that authority, but even less people recognize that we're actually obligated to wield it and use it to do great good, great works in this short life while we're here.
Oh, you mean we can't just say God's in control, John?
God's in control.
It's such a cop-out.
It's such a loser mentality.
And one of the other chapters in my book is the warrior mindset.
What an opposite of the warrior mindset.
That's the loser mindset.
That, oh, I'm going to leave it all to God, even though he said, go do these works.
He's sovereign.
He's sovereign, John.
He knows the answer in the beginning.
Like, he knows.
And he sovereignly directed us to be light, to be salt, to do works, to be the actors in the parable of the talents that, hey, you gave me five, here's ten.
You gave me two, here's four.
Not to be the one who said, you gave me one and I buried it.
Because the people who are saying what you just said, they're burying their talent and God's going to hold them accountable on that day.
I've literally had somebody say to me before, well, that's manipulative.
I said, oh, prayer's manipulative?
Okay, now prayer's manipulative because God's so in control.
But listen to yourself, right?
That people believe that bullcrap.
And honestly, I went through really quick how I got filled with the Holy Spirit.
I've been saved since I was eight.
But I had one of my best friend's sons got killed in a car wreck.
And I just was so angry.
I grew up Baptist and I thought, you know, and I don't know why I've been in school counselor.
I had gotten sexual abuse disclosures.
I don't know why it just hit me so hard when her son was killed because I loved him and I knew him.
And I was like, you know what?
If God picked a flower for his garden, I'm done.
Like, I live in the Bible Belt.
I have bought a lie.
I am done.
This is, you know what?
If God's in control, he's letting these kids be molested.
He's letting kids, people die.
I'm done.
So I was about atheist for about two weeks.
And a lady came to my house and she said, God sent me here.
And he said to tell you John 10 10.
So I don't know what that is.
She said, well, the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy.
And Jesus came to give you life and life more abundantly.
Well, I hit my knees.
And for some, truth.
We talked about truth.
It just pierces you.
It's what you needed to hear.
And I realized, you know, God's not schizophrenic.
If the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy, then God doesn't come to steal, kill, and destroy.
That's what the enemy does.
And God's not in control.
Does he know it all?
Yes, he knows it all.
He gave us free will.
He gave us authority.
He gave us dominion.
He is not in control.
There is spiritual law in place.
And we either take the authority or we don't, whether in his will or we're not.
That's our choice.
There's so many things that is on us.
He uses his children to advance his kingdom.
He tells us things.
I mean, how many times does he tell you things to do that you don't do?
And so people are waiting on you.
Their prayers are waiting on you to do what God told you to do.
So I think we have a weak church.
Really weak.
Yeah.
What I was looking at here when you were talking about that section, I had to speak this Saturday on the blood.
And so we were talking about different things.
And as I was thinking about the blood, I was thinking back here of this very first sentence.
You know, we have in Jesus' name and he's the name above all names and all spiritual authorities there.
But you say, you must understand your authority as a blood-bought adopted son or daughter of the Most High God.
So it's blood-bought.
Without the blood, there's nothing.
The blood's everything.
The blood's everything.
That's how we're righteous.
Amen.
And just to build on that, Candace, he didn't pay with his blood for us just to sit in the stands and watch.
And think about the book of Acts.
What is that book named?
It's not the book of bystanders.
It's not the book of witnesses.
I mean, yes, we're called witnesses, but it's the book of Acts because the actors, not acting in terms of putting on a show, but The players on the field, the actors, the ones who acted, took action, right?
The word act is the root of action, right?
The noun.
And so it's all a book of action, you know, starting with Jesus, his ascent.
But then quickly, you've got Peter and John speaking the word, you've got Pentecost happening and the Holy Spirit coming down.
You've got them preaching, being beaten, and they even tell the Sanhedrin, they say, you know, we cannot help but speak of everything we have heard and seen.
And then very quickly, you then have Stephen, you got Philip, and then Paul takes off, and Paul basically takes over the book of Acts for the rest of the book with his friends like Luke and others.
And so it's all about...
Acting from the standpoint of taking action.
And being a Christian is an action verb.
You know, it's, you know, Christianing something.
It should be full of dunamis, power, and it should be full of action and our acting in agreement with the Holy Spirit, in agreement with God, boldly Fearlessly and with great effort and energy acting on his behalf and doing great works, as Paul wrote about in Ephesians.
You can't do great works sitting up in the stands.
That's right.
And so tell us, I mean, this book, it's a big book, it's heavy, and it's almost like a workbook, but it's not a workbook.
It's like an encyclopedia.
You said that, and it is.
It's in Roman numerals, and it has different sections.
But tell us, like, where the, like, how you organized it and the thought process came from.
Sure.
Well, first of all, I'll tell you where it started, and then it went on so far beyond that.
It started with a video by a lovely woman named Celeste Solem.
She's just this brilliant, lovely believer, and she's really great at exposing the works of the enemy because she was behind the curtain for so many years and then came out, thank God.
Ran, frankly, in the middle of the night.
So, she's in the middle of a video talking about something else, and in the middle of it, she said, oh, and by the way, when they knock on your door, here are a couple of useful points of advice to get you to do something you ought not do, right?
And when she said that, the Holy Spirit just reached up in me and just grabbed me, and I knew that's what God had stirred me up To write about, because I've been looking for things to write for the prior year or so, and I didn't know why.
And God was sort of stirring me up to write.
And so I started writing, and it was focused on the knock on the door, all the strategies and tactics that you could use to carry the day in that moment, and some ancillary stuff.
And so basically, I was writing a big pamphlet.
But as I did, Candace, I just had all these, I guess I would call them epiphanies.
You know, one of them being that it looks like a physical realm kinetic war of sorts, right?
A soft war, you know, soft kills for silent wars.
That's what we're living through.
But what it really is, is it's spiritual war Cascading over into the physical realm and taking on kinetic physical attributes.
So for example, the powers that be, you know, way up the food chain behind all the knocks on the doors, or let's say the distribution of deadly experimental mutagenic injections that will kill millions.
You know, those are demonic, those are satanic, those are part of the hierarchy of the damned in Ephesians 6-12, right?
Principalities and powers and evil spirits in high places.
But it then manifests on your front door in human beings that want to do bad things.
And so that realization that it's starting in the spiritual realm, you've got to understand that, Candace.
I know you know this, but you have to understand that it's the spiritual realm where it starts that is making everything so insane.
Once you have a grid for that, once you've illuminated the battle space in that manner, Then you can attain that discernment like the sons of Issachar, 1 Chronicles 12, 32.
Then, just like them, you can understand the times so that you can know what to do.
And so that's why I then expanded, expanded, expanded.
Not only in the practical, with things like how to make your house, how to harden your house and employ countermeasures against home invasion, or a remedy for, you know, a hemorrhagic fever type outbreak that may or may not be in our near future, on and on, all different places, web links, places to get provisions and information, good preaching, but then also on the spiritual realm.
So that's why I then talked about Spiritual authority, spiritual warfare, understanding the enemy, and really wound up creating kind of a, I don't know of another work like it, that spends so much time on the practical, kinetic, provisional, tactical.
I didn't know that was in there, John, but talk to me about that, about the, so you actually had, you know, you're saying epiphanies, but I'm thinking like, Prophecy.
I mean, you had some illumination in the spirit and what was coming.
What made you, because I've been reading recently about the bleeding under the skin kind of thing that maybe or maybe not coming, that's been prophesied by some prophets that are well known and had things come true.
Where did that come from for you?
And when did you write this book?
You actually wrote this book last year.
It took two years, and so I wrote it between roughly 2020 and 2022.
So we're at the end of 2023, and you had that.
So when did you get that information or knowledge about the next virus?
It wasn't prophetic.
I'm just a really dig deeper researcher, observer.
You know, I... I don't know if I would describe myself as a Watchman, but I'm certainly watching a bunch of Watchmen.
And really, God put in me a real hunger for what is it that's going on?
What are the Luciferian jackals up to now?
And what could be coming next?
And in the context of writing a book, what can I do to play my role And trying to help equip people, you know, spiritually, but then also provisionally.
So if you want to go get a bunch of anthocyanin, which is the countermeasure in God's creation, that makes that purple color an eggplant, that cyan is in the word anthocyanin.
God made the natural antidote, like he does for everything, right, in his kingdom.
So that's just...
One example of hundreds and hundreds that are in the book as countermeasures.
You know, because here's the thing, Candice.
And I would, if I could, you know, because reasonable people can disagree reasonably, right?
I disagree with you when you say God's not in control.
I think God is in control.
He's mapped out the guardrails.
But within those guardrails, we're given the free will.
And that's why people then, within those boundaries...
Right.
We do the things we do and wicked people do the things they do.
And God in his wisdom and his perfect plan, he allows it to happen within his plan.
But for example, you know, one of the things that's really...
I agree with that.
I agree.
God is totally...
Ultimately.
But we say God's in control as a cop-out.
He's not controlling.
He's in control.
He's not controlling us like chess pieces.
He's not in control of a wreck that happens that kills somebody.
He's not in control of somebody being child molested and raped.
And he's not somebody shooting heroin in the yard and overdosing.
He's not in control of that.
Yes, He created everything.
He is everything.
But we have free will.
And we have a responsibility and a role in this.
This earth was created for us, and we were created for a relationship with Him.
And so, He's a relational God.
So, no, I totally agree with how you just put it, that He is overarching and that we are in here doing...
Doing what we do.
He didn't want robots.
He didn't want that.
He could have created that.
He wanted us to choose Him.
Yes.
Amen.
Amen.
And to me, that is the cornerstone of the whole purpose of everything.
He wants to build a family of those who love him back.
That's right.
And that's who we are, right?
That's right.
So I was a deep researcher, and so I found my way to all these...
I came to an understanding of the nature of the moves of the enemy and how repetitive they are and how...
Predictable they are.
And so as I came to realize that, I came across some evidence that for years they've been working on those things.
Because I think this next wave of evil we get, Candace, it's going to make COVID look like child's play.
And exactly.
Now that was perfect.
That was Holy Spirit.
Like he, child's play.
He said it to me at the same time.
Yeah.
Amen.
And so I come across this obscure remedy that, of course, they don't want anybody to know about, where you can just eat good food out of the garden and counter this horrific pathogen.
And so literally, I was up really late at night the last couple of weeks before getting the book published.
I was cramming new stuff in there, practical stuff, to complement the spiritual stuff, because we're We are to be heavenly minded so that we may be earthly good.
But there's lots of models in scripture too about being prepared provisionally.
You know, Joseph did it.
They did it in the early church in the book of Acts at the speaking of a prophetess that there was a famine coming.
You know, we're to consider the ant like in the book of Proverbs.
And so on and on, you know, God is not Opposed to provision.
And so, you know, we're to have this, you know, physical realm wisdom and we are to be heavenly minded and understand the things of God so that it all makes sense.
And we and we see our role in it, too.
Yeah, I'm so it's crazy because last week I interviewed a girl that's doing electro gardening with a copper wire on wood and it creates a magnetic field and you put it in the north end of the garden.
And it gets all the pestilence out and it draws in the natural pollinators.
And she had a great tomato that was like as big as your hand and everything grows faster and bigger and it's very dense in nutrition.
And so she said it's been around, this technology has been around for millennia.
It's not like it's new, but it's just nobody's doing it anymore.
And so anyway, We, I think that it's just a vein God's in right now.
He wants his children prepared.
He doesn't want us, you know, a lot of us have been really busy raising our families and working and paying taxes and doing all of that.
And we haven't paid attention and we've become lazy and even don't know basic things like you're talking about, you put in the book that maybe, you know, if you don't have the internet or you don't have, you know, your phone, how are you going to figure it out if you don't have this book sitting in your house?
Right.
Right?
And you don't have references that are paper.
How are you going to know what to do?
Or know what to grow?
Or know how to fix a problem?
How are we going to know?
So you're going to have to order the book, guys.
Right?
Because there's so much stuff in here.
And that's not, you know, why John came on here.
That's me telling you, you know, he wrote this book.
It was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
And the Holy Spirit wants you to read it.
And so I have it.
I've been thumbing through it.
I've I've been highlighting and going through some of the things in here.
And I've probably been through maybe an eighth of it.
I've got a lot more to go through.
But what I've already read is so dense and so true.
I haven't seen one thing in here I don't agree with as a spirit-filled Christian.
So you need to read it.
You need to look at it.
And it's something we're going to need.
And I hope and pray that we, you know, God's going to take care of us.
I know that He is.
But I just know that we have some dark days coming.
We do.
And, you know, I'm glad you touched on that, Candice, because, you know, like it says in, shoot, I'm trying to remember where it is, maybe 2 Timothy, where it says, you know, people in the last days will say, you know, don't tell us hard things.
Teach us smooth things.
Speak smooth things to us.
And people won't tolerate, you know, strong teaching.
And I can appreciate that because we're living in a season where it's kind of nice to be comforted, right?
Right.
And the enemy wants us to be fearful.
In fact, I have an unction that the enemy's success over us is dependent on our fear.
And where if we utterly reject the fear and we walk in boldness and strength, in his strength, not in ours, that the enemy will, we can defeat the enemy at every turn, at every confrontation that we have with him.
And so one of the things I did when I started writing the book, I was like, I was disturbed by the material I was writing myself.
You know, I was the first person with the book to be disturbed.
And so what I started doing, as you know, is I started folding God's promises and his word into the book.
And if you get the book, you'll see it has hundreds of of Bible verses in it, of equipping, strengthening.
I couldn't hardly choose one.
I couldn't hardly choose one to read.
There's so many.
It's everywhere.
Yeah.
And so the point being, that is a book of encouragement as much as it is a book of education, discernment, provisioning, strategy.
It's got as much encouragement in it as it has anything.
And that was something that the Holy Spirit really laid on me too was, hey, Encourage these people as they're reading tough things that, you know, ultimately we know, we know, we know that we had the victory through him who saved us.
Well, you know, we're hearing all this stuff.
So I've been working so hard on the elections, trying to get fair legal elections and trying to save our government and America and the Constitution and trying, because I believe, you know, God chose Israel and America chose God.
And we are favored highly by the Lord and He loves America.
And so I just believe we could heal our land.
The Bible, you wrote that in your book.
It's the truth.
It's in the Bible.
And we definitely can do that if we come together and do it now.
But we're in crunch time.
But then you hear all these other things that people, you know, of course, are against the vaccines and then we hear the medical stuff's just booming right now and you hear a lot of people doing holistic medicine and other modalities, even medical doctors who are, you know, obviously MDs and they're going out and starting these wellness companies and we have all this going on at the same time of tactical training.
And there's a lot of that going on, a lot of constitutional classes, and people are just learning things that they should have known that we've lost the art of over the years of just working and being little soldiers, like little factory worker soldiers, you know?
And they've made us, but we don't have free, we're not free thinkers, and we're not thinking for ourselves, and we're terrifying these organizations New World Order people.
They are like, what the heck is going on?
They thought we were so indoctrinated that we were just going to fall right in the line with good little ducks.
And we're not doing that.
We're doing opposite of that because it's in our DNA to be fighters and pioneers and free.
And I'm not willing to be in slavery.
I'm not willing to be in communism.
I will fight to death for that.
I will not be in communism, not alive.
I think that this book, if you look at every section of it, you are given some of those tactical things.
You're given some of all of it in this book.
That's why I think it's so important we have a hard copy of it in case something happens or when something happens, it's at your fingertips because you're not going to have all these things.
Truth tellers that we see on social media and on these other sources virtually, we're not going to be able to get to them.
Yeah.
You know, it's funny you bring that up, Candice, because just because it's easy, you know, my first plan was, oh, I'll just sell this electronically so I can get the PDF. And I started editing the book.
If you can imagine this 480 page book.
And it's a big book.
Like it's big.
Yeah.
On my computer screen.
Here's my Bible.
So you can see a comparison of size.
I mean, it's a big book.
And I couldn't possibly edit the thing on my computer screen.
I started printing it out section by section.
And as I did, I realized, I mean, God just made it clear to me, you've got to get this physical book in people's hands.
And so, you know, I spent tens of thousands of dollars Going and getting pallets of this book and stockpiling it so that I could equip his people with a physical book that you can earmark, you can highlight, you can write notes in, you can do underline, you can do all that stuff.
And when, you know, everything goes to hell in a handbasket, you'll have a book, you know, doesn't rely on the internet, doesn't rely on power, doesn't rely on any of that stuff.
You got a pencil and the book, you're good to go.
Well, you sent me mine, and it made me pay for it, but I'm going to buy one for Stu Peters, and I'm going to mail it to his house, and so I'm going to do that.
Stu's already got one.
Stu and I sharpened iron a few weeks ago together.
Okay, good.
He mentioned that to me.
I'm going to get on to him.
Okay, well, I will buy it for someone else.
Hey, but tell him you love it.
Tell him you love it.
Tell him you and I sharpened iron, had a great visit together down here, down in the south.
I will.
Well, we talk all the time, but we haven't even talked about this book.
Imagine that.
But we will.
I will buy it for somebody and send it because everybody needs it.
Everybody needs it on their at their house so that they have it ready to go because it is tactical it has strategy it has so much word in it that's applicable to to where we are and just life-sustaining essentials for a season of trial and that's where we are right now we're in a season of trial is there anything John that you think about that you would like to elaborate that you didn't get elaborate on the book or anything that you've got revelation on since you wrote the book that you want to add on for people Let
me think about that a second.
You know, to me, and this may only apply to a handful of people listening because of the nature of you and your platform and your message, but if you're like I was before I got saved, and you're playing patty cakes with God, and you think you can walk this out half in and half out, Like, God will not be mocked.
You know, a man will reap what he sows, Galatians 6, 6-8.
And to him who sows to the flesh, from the flesh shall reap destruction, but to him who sows to the Spirit, capital S, Spirit, from the Spirit shall reap eternal life.
And I just exhort you, if that's you, if you feel a quickening in your spirit, and you hear me talking about this, and that's you, that you're That you're playing games with God and you're not all in and you haven't laid it at the foot of the cross and begged for forgiveness and thanked him for the price he paid so that you could be authentic in your followership because he's not just your savior.
He's got to be your Lord or you don't get the salvation piece.
You have to make him your Lord.
And so for anybody out there who's listening who's Playing games like I was.
Who's, you know, talking the talk, but not walking the walk.
Brother and sister, I just exhort you.
The hour is so short.
And I feel convicted to tell you, get right with him now so that your house is built on stone and not sand.
And so it won't be washed away in this next torrent that's coming our way.
And John, one thing that I was feeling in my spirit as you were saying that was the hunger I felt for reading the Word.
I have, you know, we're so busy and I'll pull something up on my phone or I'll read a little devotional or I'll listen to something while I'm doing something else.
But I have felt this like hunger inside of me just to read like out of my Bible, not even on my phone.
Like, let me pull my Bible out and let me just read it here because it's like I want to see what he says here in the word and not just, you know, In my Bible.
In fact, this is what the Lord I've been dealing with in my spirit a lot is Moses and him and the miracle.
One of my favorite miracles is when he stretches his hand across the sea and splits the sea, right?
And the miracle of the ground being dry.
And that was as much a miracle as the sea splitting where they were able to walk across it.
But It was like,
you know, And it's like, that was a miracle for you to walk and faith that these waters can just cover me up.
They just covered up all the chariots and the horsemen, but I'm trusting and walking and the land is dry, but I'm not sinking in.
That is such a miracle.
But I'm just feeling like wanting to read the word and what it says.
And the Lord's been speaking to me through this about he's not he is a God of love and he loves his children and he protects us.
And if you like you said, John, if you have a relationship with him and he is your Lord, he is going to protect you.
But if you don't know him and you think, well, he saved me, that's enough.
But he's not Lord.
There's not a cover in there.
It's just not there.
I don't see it in the word.
I don't.
I see what it says in the Word about when you're His and you're submitted to Him, He's covering you.
And I believe this next time we're going through, we're going to have to have His covering or we're going to die.
It's like that serious.
Yeah.
Well, and also too, I would encourage people who think, oh, that was then, but this is now.
You know, that was the God of Moses, but that's not the God of 2023.
I utterly reject that.
You know, God was the same.
Then, before, now, and forever.
And he is faithful.
He will see us through.
Now, maybe my plan is to die tomorrow, or maybe his plan for me.
You know, no man is appointed tomorrow.
But I get now great comfort.
I used to think it was something of a curse when I thought that our days are numbered.
Oh, I got this day coming and I got to dread this day.
No.
You got to look to it to the positive.
If I have a mission to run for God for the next 20 years, nothing on earth is going to keep me from running that mission for God for 20 years.
It doesn't matter what the enemy thinks.
It doesn't matter what they want.
It doesn't matter how they try and come against us.
If God has a use for me and a plan for me, he is going to preserve me and see me through that.
And that goes no matter what.
So no matter what kind of bullcrap, pardon my French, The enemy has planned for us.
There's God.
And God will find a way for those who are His.
And that's where I circle back, Candice, to what I was saying before.
Don't trifle with God.
You know, get serious with God.
Make Him your Lord and your Savior.
And know...
And one other thing, Candice, I'd mentioned is Psalm 91.
You know, He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
It is a qualified...
Psalm packed with astounding blessings.
But in verse one, you have to qualify for them.
You have to dwell in that secret place of the Most High.
And, you know, if that doesn't resonate with you, I would exhort you, get on your knees and ask God to show you what that looks like and then get there.
It's more than saying John 3.16.
Like, it's more than that.
It's relational.
And so you have to have it in your heart and you can believe it up here and not ever get to here.
Yeah, yeah.
Proverbs 16.31, John, it says, Long life is the reward of the righteous.
So, righteous and right standing with God.
That's what righteous is.
And how do you get right standing with God?
Well, you are covered in the blood of Jesus.
You believe and He is Lord.
That's how you get righteousness with God.
That's how you get righteous.
So, long life is the reward of the righteous and right standing with God.
You can't be in right standing with God if He's not Lord.
Amen.
There's no getting around it.
And like I said about Galatians 6-6-8, he won't be mocked.
And so don't play games.
Get serious now while things are relatively calm, relatively, you know, sensical and not nonsensical before it gets really bad.
So before we go, I want you to kind of, and I mean, everybody knows, and we're going to put this on the screen and everything, this Nehemiah Strong, we have to buy this.
You need it.
You need it at home.
It's not anything to do with John.
Honestly, it's because you need it.
And I don't want something to happen.
And you think, oh my gosh, I watched that one show that Candace was talking about and had that author on.
And I wish I had that book because he was talking about something with eggplants and something about Just buy the book and you'll have it.
Okay?
Buy it.
Do it right now.
And we'll put the link on the bottom of the screen and all of that.
But before we go, I want you to tell people, really, because you've done all this research, and I believe, I was saying prophetic, and I think it is prophetic, but it's wisdom, John.
It's wisdom.
So God's given you a gift of wisdom.
And knowledge where you're able to put this into words for people.
Which Solomon, my husband, has his favorite thing.
He's been prophesied wisdom over him over and over.
But Solomon was the most wealthy man because of his wisdom.
Because he asked for wisdom instead of money.
So I want you to give them what you think is going to happen briefly, soon, that they need to be prepared for.
I think great revival is coming in dark times.
But you tell them what you've seen and from your research what you think.
Well, first of all, I'm going to echo what you just said.
It's going to be dark and God doesn't see the battlefield.
The enemy makes his move.
God makes his counter move.
And so I think as things get darker, people are going to be more receptive to the gospel.
And I think there are going to be waves of people coming to faith.
In this season of trial, which is in the subtitle of my book, it's such an exciting time for sharing the gospel.
And when people come to you desperate and wide-eyed and they're trying to understand, they know you're one of those crazy Christian people, you know, that they know and they're always pushed off.
But in terms of what I see coming, you know, I think we're living in this amazing season of total war.
You know, fifth generation warfare, asymmetric warfare, whatever you want to call it, it's total war.
And it's soft kills for silent wars where it's war against God's people, it's war against American citizens, gun lovers, you know, gun carriers, Bible attendees, the whole gamut.
But it's the whole waterfront.
So whether it's medical, whether it's economic, whether it's pathogenic, whether it's kinetic warfare, you know, provoking the bear of Russia, you know, it's the whole waterfront.
I don't know what's going to, and economic.
I don't know what's going to hit first, but my sense tells me that it's going to be a cascade of multiple of them and And that's why you got to get founded with Jesus first, because in the natural, you can't deal with it.
But in his strength, you can deal with all of it.
And we are meant to Stand, occupy, and overcome.
And like you read in Daniel, we were meant to be strong and do exploits, which in the Hebrew is kazakh asah.
So my last word to people would be, be one of those people who fulfills Daniel's prophecy about this hour.
Fulfill that prophecy by being a believer who lives out kazakh asah, being strong and doing exploits.
Oh, I love that.
Was that Hebrew?
Yes.
I love it.
I love Hebrew.
I wish I could speak in Hebrew.
It's great.
Well, thank you so much.
Tell everybody how to get in touch with your website and all that.
We'll put it on the bottom of the screen, but go ahead and tell them.
Sure.
So the website, the best place to get the book and learn a lot more about it, really learn what I spent two years putting in this book, go to johndislin.com.
And my name is spelled J-O-H-N. And then D-Y-S-L-I-N. Or you can search for Nehemiah Strong and I'll pop up.
My website will pop up.
And then also, Candace, there's a discount code Candace if you'd like to save some money.
And most people do.
So if you use the discount code Candace, you get to save some money and recognize Candace for helping to open doors for me.
And Candace, I'm so grateful.
And I'm really edified by how much you Enjoy and how positively you received the book.
It's just, it's very gratifying to me because of all the time I spent that I poured a big piece of my life into it.
So thank you.
Well, thank you for writing it.
Thank you for writing it and sharing it and being obedient to the Holy Spirit.
And I think, you know, definitely it's going to help people.
No doubt about that, it's going to help people.
And I just, I pray that y'all go get it.
Definitely use my code, said that he can see that you came from this show.
I want it to be a blessing to him.
He's like, oh, I'm glad I went on Kenneth Taylor's show because I got this stuff.
And Jesus comes in babies, so he can be thankful.
John Disland, I'm so excited to meet you.
It's my honor and my privilege.
And Lord, I just pray that you bless John and that you bless his wife and his family and that they are just abundantly, abundantly blessed for this and him being obedient.
Because obedience is there to sacrifice.
Amen.
Thank y'all for coming and for watching.
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