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in the background still standing and fuming away.
It went away at 520 that day.
So we know it's before 520 on 9-11.
You're looking straight over from West Street, and you should see a 110-story building blocking your view.
But there's just nothing there right down the ground.
There's an ambulance that was parked in front of Tower 1 on West Street.
Okay.
And Tower 1's not there anymore.
But the ambulance is there.
That should have been obliterated too, don't you think?
Why isn't the ambulance crushed?
It's obvious there's a big lack of material there.
We saw it and what happened on 9-11 was something that we as the public had never seen before.
What happened on 9-11, I believe today it was not a controlled demolition, it was not nanothermite, and it certainly was not the pancake effect of two planes hitting a building.
There's a cluster of core columns that remains here.
Watch what happens to them.
They just faint.
No!
Here's Building 7, which is a 47-story building.
It's like 650 feet tall, approximately.
This has got to be over that.
It physically disintegrates in front of your eyes.
Not concrete, but steel.
You can see all of this is frothing up into dust.
It's also blowing downward.
That's about 700 feet tall.
If that thing tipped over, it would take out a few blocks worth of buildings.
How's it gonna go straight down?
You get a 700-foot hole in the ground, drop it into.
The remains of several hundred people were recovered from Ground Zero and ceremonially buried.
But there was no trace left at all of over 1,500 who died.
Remember the people who left the building early, they've been referred to as jumpers?
I don't think they voluntarily jumped.
How many people are we talking about?
About 1200.
It was raining people.
It appears that there's a lot of mass coming out of the building for hours.
So basically it was disintegrating from the inside.
By 5.20pm there wasn't enough mass left to slam to the ground.
The walls were like an empty shell.
And the world traced up to 50 times the normal levels of triteum were discovered.
It's from some kind of nuclear reaction.
This is the really weird thing, isn't it?
There was a big hurricane on the morning of 9-11, just off the coast, and bizarrely, it seems, no one on the news mentioned it.
This was recorded in Alaska, ground-based magnetometers at six different locations.
At precisely that moment, the Earth's magnetic field changed.
He creates a static field, and within that static field, he interferes radio frequency signals.
This interference is a different kind of physics.
Anybody who's not asking questions, Demanding answers for what exactly occurred 22 years ago today in New York City on September 11, 2001 needs their head examined.
They're delusional.
They could basically be written off.
They're a lost cause.
These are the people that believe the government is here to help.
These are the people who believe that Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson and AstraZeneca, out of the moral goodness of their hearts, all combined together to find a safe and effective vaccine that would help people against this weird novel coronavirus that just popped up out of nowhere, turned into a pandemic, all combined together to find a safe and effective vaccine that would help people against this weird novel coronavirus that just popped After being separated from their families and riddled with remdesivir and shoved onto ventilators and killed for cash, they were murdered for money.
These are the people that believe it's effective to strap your kids to an oxygen-inhibiting, bacteria-ridden Sharia face muzzle, or believe that there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, or that we did some good in Afghanistan after 20 years and trillions of dollars fighting for nothing.
Thank you.
These are the people that believe that Biden was fairly elected and that Trump led some violent insurrection on January 6th.
These are the people that believe that we landed on the moon and lost the technology to get back there.
So yeah, we have a lot more to say and a lot more questions about what exactly happened as we mark the anniversary of these tragic events.
Now, a lot of 9-11 truthers focus on what made the Twin Towers collapse, but some go even deeper.
These people argue that the Twin Towers truthfully did not collapse at all.
One of those people is Andrew Johnson.
Johnson believes that the Twin Towers were vaporized into dust right before our eyes.
Well, actually, that turn-to-dust part isn't even just some theory.
Even the people pushing the official narrative admit it.
All the way back in September of 2001, the New York Times did this explainer piece on why giant clouds of dust burst out of the sides of the World Trade Centers as they collapsed.
Now, remember, that's actually surprising.
Watch a controlled demolition.
Go on YouTube or anywhere and watch a video of a controlled demolition.
There might be dust at the bottom of the building as it explodes or implodes.
But it's extremely rare, if we've ever seen it at all, to see dust exploding out of the sides of them as they fall.
According to the Times, it was all because of compressed air and gravity.
Well, Dr.
Judy Wood has another theory.
She's argued that the 9-11 collapse is evidence of something called free energy technology.
There's a video somehow still allowed on YouTube describing the theory.
Are you now absolutely sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that some kind of directed energy technology contributed to taking down those buildings?
Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
We have to see with our eyes, not with what we're told to see.
I can't think of anything more important For more explanation, we'll turn now to Andrew Johnson.
Andrew's from the United Kingdom.
He spent more than 35 years working in the fields of education and software development.
Now, like most people, he initially believed the official story about 9-11.
But in 2004, he began to study things far more closely, and he found only unanswered questions and signs of a massive cover-up.
Since then, Andrew has written not one, but two books chronicling his research into the subject.
You can find both of them at CheckTheEvidence.com.
Again, that's CheckTheEvidence.com.
Andrew joins us now, sir.
Thank you so much for coming.
We appreciate you being here.
Thanks for inviting me on, Ian.
It's good to be here.
Yeah.
Not a lot of people are going to talk about this.
Of course, the mainstream media will attack both you and myself for this appearance.
But we're supposed to just arbitrarily believe without questioning that jet fuel, a sudden flash of heat from jet fuel caused these two buildings and another building, by the way.
Hardly anybody talks about building seven to just collapse like what we saw here and do it in almost exactly the same fashion, not leaning one way or the other, but perfectly coming down and all of this dust.
What actually caused this?
Because I'm not buying that.
Yeah, well, it wasn't the jet fuel or the fires caused by the jet fuel or anything like that, and neither was it bombs in the building.
Which was both of those theories I believed one after the other.
I believe the official story of the jet fuel and the collapses and this pancake collapse idea which is what all the mainstream media talks about and never really go beyond that.
I believed that for 18 months and then I saw a film called 9-11 The Great Illusion and in that was a little bit of physics that was illustrated which showed that the towers actually disappeared or collapsed as I thought then in Time of like nine seconds and that was basically at free-fall speed and as I'd done part of my degree in physics I recognized that this was an impossibility.
I recognized I did the calculation myself for the free-fall speed and so that led me to understand that the official story was untrue and then I started researching and I wrote these two books which were available free from CheckTheEvidence.com And in 2006, after I joined a group called Scholars for 9-11 Truth, I came across the work of Dr.
Judy Wood, and she actually pointed out how the towers didn't collapse, they didn't slam to the ground, but they turned mostly to dust in mid-air.
So, if we could go to slide number two in the ones that I sent you, this sort of summarizes what I just said with a couple of images, which, you know, we'll sort of show...
Yeah, they're on the screen right now.
Go ahead.
Right.
So, you know, on the left, we've got the official story of the fire, and then in the middle, we've got the 9-11 truth movements version, which is bombs in the building, and there are variants of this with thermite.
With nuclear devices and so forth.
And then Dr.
Judy Wood coined this word on the right, dustification, which shows that the buildings turned to dust.
And this includes the steel.
And on the next slide, we can see that we've got the buildings made up.
Near the exterior is 236 exterior columns of steel and 47 enormous interior columns of steel.
You know, you've got these videos about how it was constructed.
A very particular way of construction, new methods and all of that.
Very strong, very strong.
But as we were discussing earlier, all of this steel, or rather about 80% or 90% of it turned to dust in 10 seconds approximately, slightly less than 10 seconds.
Is there any material on the face of the planet or is there any heat at all, you're the physics guy, that can make steel just turn to dust?
No, not to my knowledge.
There is no method in the white world that is known that can turn this to dust.
And therefore, because of that, because of that situation, people will deny that this could have happened and they'll dismiss these events, dismiss this research and say, it's impossible.
I'm not going to look at it.
And on the next slide, number three, and I'm going to keep this up for more than a few seconds, but that initially was my entry into this.
You know, I started part of my degree in physics.
And on the screen there, a few people might recognize this as one of the equations of motion.
And you can calculate from the height of the towers how long it would have taken to drop an object from the top down to the bottom.
And it was about 9.16 seconds or thereabouts.
And that was the time in which they disappeared.
And as Eric Hushmid once said, it's impossible for the building to fall through itself at the same speed as it falls through thin air.
And the only way that those speeds can match is if the buildings essentially offered no resistance during the destruction.
And that's what Dr.
Judy Wood demonstrated in her research.
Now, I found this out.
If you look at slides, I'll just kick through slide five.
And slide 6, I joined the Scholars for 9-11 Truth Group, and this fellow in that group called Stephen E. Jones, he did a presentation in 2006, and I watched that presentation.
I made a video of it for him, and he sent me his PowerPoint, and you can see He used a particular photograph which shows this steel turning to dust which we just talked about and that's the one on the right and I saved that directly from his presentation but I found the original photograph I think via Dr.
Judy Wood and that's on the left there and you can see how this photograph has been subtly changed and Dr.
Jones was pointing out these little white dots that you can see in the right hand image and he said oh you can see this thermite reacting Thermite is an incendiary.
It's not even an explosive.
He was claiming that this was the main destructive mechanism of the building.
I've heard this thermite theory from this guy called Richard Gage.
The question that I have about that, and maybe we'll talk to him in the upcoming days.
But thermite is a very bright, like it has this light that emanates, and it's almost, it's blinding, a very small amount of it.
Enough thermite to take down buildings of that size, 110-story structures, like that, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that that would look like a quarter of the sun was burning in New York City.
Go to the next slide, number seven, and you'll get a kind of feel for that.
And this, again, you're exactly right, Stu, because this shows us still on the right from a Brainiac video where they put a thermite and it burns through a car engine.
And I was shown this by Stephen A. Jones or images like this, not this exact image, but I was.
Stephen E. Jones, the physicist from Brigham Young, was using images like the one on the left there, claiming that this orange material was thermite.
And then, as you say, that was later picked up by Richard Gage and the Architects and Engineers Group, starting from around about 2007.
And I edited this video together in 2006 for Stephen E. Jones where there were two individual clips.
One still is from the top image.
There's one still from one video.
And I think the bottom image is one from the other on slide number seven there.
And that's how I got involved.
And I didn't realize what I was doing.
I thought Jones was an honest guy.
He only put this thermite theory and I thought he was a legitimate theory.
But he used me to help him put out disinformation.
And my name was mentioned by Dr.
Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds in one of their articles where they were addressing this thermite theory of Jones and pointing out such things as you just said about the brilliance of the reaction.
And as you said, if you scaled that, that one on the right is like a little pot of material about eight inches high and you scale that up to, you know, 1300 feet and it's going to be you know everyone's going to be blinded and burned and everything so and then if you go to the next slide That says I was used to put out this information and then number nine is what actually happened and So the buildings turned to dust.
Dr.
Wood found these two images.
The one on the left shows the Bankers Trust building, the dark coloured building in the mid-ground.
That's 40 storeys high.
So she asked the question, if you look at that sort of ball of dust there, which he calls a snowball, do you think, it's a rhetorical question, there are 70 storeys of building within that snowball?
And I think it's pretty hard to imagine that there would be.
That's mid-destruction.
So we've got 70 stories of building which have already disappeared.
And that seems to have somehow gone into that snowball, which is what we see traveling down almost.
And then, as she pointed out then, the image on the right, it looks like the material is kind of bubbling out.
It's bubbling out from a sort of drinking fountain affair.
and then the next slide number 10 you've already shown some of these images that's got an animation on it so we can just leave that running for about three seconds or so four seconds that shows one of the I think it's one of the core columns actually and Dr.
Wood knows which tower it is but I can't remember which one it is and you can see that It's actually 70 stories high.
That turns to dust and there are multiple videos of that.
It's not just these few images.
There are multiple videos of that now that we've got.
That's all in one of these videos called Irrefutable by Adam Dwyer.
And then after that, if you look at slide number 11, You will see an indication of the amount of material that must be accounted for because on the left we have an image showing photograph showing building seven in the background with the in the cloud of material and then in the foreground we have I think World Trade Center number six I think it is it's an eight-story building and then in front of that we have a small Pile
of debris, perhaps not even one storey or two storeys high and again this image alone shows that 80 to 90 percent of the buildings disappeared and on the right there we've got that in proportion to what the towers actually looked like before they were destroyed.
So all of this evidence must be explained and it cannot be explained with explosive demolition.
It cannot be explained with jet fuel.
It cannot be explained by the debris being moved to China, you know, in the days after 9-11 because there was very little debris.
It was mostly gone by 2 in the afternoon, for example, when this image was taken on the left there.
So, right there, we've essentially covered all of that.
Until recent times, a lot of people hadn't heard of these directed energy weapons.
There's been a lot of conversation about that.
You know, with Hawaii and whatever else.
Do's is what, you know, they call them.
And so here is what Dr.
Wood had to say about directed energy weapons.
Dr.
Wood is as independent as she can be.
She's just a completely fiercely autonomous force.
She's a nightmare for the control system of that woman.
My mother had told me not to look into 9-11 because she said, if you do, you won't have a career.
And I said, if I don't, nobody will.
We might not even have a planet.
Are you now absolutely sure, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that some kind of directed energy technology contributed to taking down those buildings?
Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
We have to see with our eyes, not with what we're told to see.
So there she is talking about these directed energy weapons contributing to the to the collapse of these towers or the dustification as she puts it.
Do you agree was this a directed energy weapon attack?
No doubt.
I have no doubt at all that that's what he was, because we essentially, and this is the bit that is less talked about now, is we found out how that works.
We found out the principles of how that works, and it's quite difficult to understand.
It's not like a beam on its own, a laser beam or anything like that.
It's not as simple as that.
I think it would be good if you could get Dr.
Judy Ward on.
If you wanted to get an interview with her, I can talk to her, so let me know and you can arrange that if you wish.
And I think we can start to answer the question you just asked if we go on to, let's see, I think slide number 16, I think if we go to that.
And this, if you can see that now with the cars, Dr.
Wood coined this term toasted cars as in Actually, they're finished.
You know, they're no good.
You have to get a new car, basically.
OK, toasted can mean heated.
And again, if you look at this car at a quick glance, it looks like it's been heated, you know, with fire or something.
But look inside some of these cars and you can see the outside is badly damaged, but inside the upholstery is intact.
and then if we have the next slide number 17 in this selection there's a bit of animation on this slide but we can see this is kind of half burned and and this is really important to look at this slide we can actually see the lights on the top as well are still intact and the rear reflectors of this car for the indicators and the brake lights and so forth they're intact the rear tire is inflated A lot of people are talking about Maui.
Well, this car on 911 is rather different, I think, without exception to the cars that were seen in Maui.
Okay?
So this is the evidence that's got to be accounted for.
And one of the things that came out in Dr.
Wood's mind when she saw images like this, and this was over an extended period of time when she looked at 40,000 images, This seemed like some sort of what's called interference effect, where there were different types of energy being mixed together in a particular specific way in what are called field effects.
And she settled on this idea because she's an expert in interferometry, which is a sort of concept in physics, so we don't have time to go into that.
But that's how she recognized it.
And then following on from that, if we go to the next slide, because this is very important as well, she found these two images which were from a parking lot, and somebody was looking out of their window or from their balcony towards this parking lot, and they captured these two images.
One was earlier in the day, the one on the top left, and the one on the bottom right was later in the day.
Now I made a little animation, and if you go to the next slide, number 19, I'm hoping you can see this, Because you will see in this image I've overlaid the two images so that we can see and you can zoom into this if you wish on another computer screen.
I won't do that here.
Some of these cars are okay.
After and they stay okay all the time and some of them get severely damaged they get they get rust on them and this is on 9-11 remember they haven't been left in the street for weeks and weeks where it's raining and stuff they rusted on 9-11 and rust doesn't normally take place that fast and you can see this animation shows that These cars were in place.
They were toasted in place.
They rusted in place.
People in the 9-11 truth movement have tried to claim that these cars were towed.
These weren't towed.
We can see these cars did not move.
Some of them were left okay and some of them were toasted.
So there were regions in this parking lot where the energy which destroyed the towers was acting and there was regions in this car park where the energy was not acting.
So there were zones where this energy was actually acting and creating destruction.
So it's not easy to explain as a simple beam or anything like that.
And the other thing which was a clue to what this was is shown on the next slide where Dr.
Wood found these pictures of cars which had turned upside down and we can see a number of these.
Now we couple these with explanations or rather testimony from witnesses such as David Hansher and a couple of other people.
David Hansher was a photographer for the New York Daily News.
They talk about being levitated and carried a block He held onto his camera, he held onto his cell phone or his pager and he levitated the block.
So what is turning these cars upside down?
And then similarly here on the next slide, 21, this shows two pictures.
The top one is before the destruction of World Trade Center 7.
The bottom one is after and we've got some type of you know Greyhound bus or something.
Even in the top picture it's pretty badly damaged but in the lower one it's even more damaged and more degraded.
This all happened on 9-11 and you can see if you look closely that this bus has moved Who would move this?
Who would tow this along the street?
Well, actually, I contend that this bus was levitated.
It was lifted up.
In other words, the force of gravity was affected by this.
That's what this is relating to.
Okay?
I got to get to break here.
Just a second here.
We're going to be back with more from Andrew Johnson right after the break.
I've got questions about what was causing these people to jump.
A lot of questions about the jumpers.
Where did all the bodies go?
Where are the remains of over a thousand different people?
I mean, why can't we find those?
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We've been talking a lot about directed energy weapons and putting it on full display here with the slides that you've Dr.
Wood has suggested that this isn't a theory, but there's irrefutable evidence to back that this is what happened on September 11, 2001.
What happened to the people that were jumping?
There was stuff about the jumpers that Dr.
Wood and yourself both say is kind of an anomaly.
Correct.
Yeah, if you get the book from wherethetowersgo.com, I think it's chapter three in that book, she studies what happened with some of these jumpers, and initially she didn't want to look at this, she'd tell you this herself.
So essentially, what seems to have happened, and it's horrible to think of, that we already discussed how most of the towers turned to dust, then something similar appeared to happen to many of the people.
Now, of course, it wasn't exactly dust, but there are some quite gruesome stories about body parts, basically.
I don't like to go into any more detail than that.
It appears that the effects on the people were somewhat different, but equally catastrophic and equally final.
So basically, many of the people disappeared with the buildings.
But then we have some amazing stories of survival.
Again, you will be able to read about the 14 people that survived in stairwell B, including Mickey Cross and Jay Jonas, who were two firefighters rescuing people.
They were in stairwell B and I think they were about six floors above the ground or something like that.
They looked up and they saw blue sky.
And they weren't crushed.
They weren't burned.
They weren't blown to bits.
They weren't turned to dust either.
They looked up and saw a blue sky.
They appeared to have been in the right place at the right time.
A hundred stories of building had literally disappeared above them.
So that's not exactly your question.
We know that some of the people had a miraculous survival and they weren't burned.
They weren't crushed.
But the jumpers, we're seeing them taking their clothes off in certain frames.
Why would they be taking their clothes off before they jumped to their death?
Why do some of these people appear to have their hands tied behind their back?
How are they jumping out of a building with their hands tied?
I mean, there's a lot of questions about all of this, of course.
And then, what happened to the remains of over a thousand people?
Can anybody explain that?
Were they just, again, dustified?
Well, apparently for some of them they were.
And I mean, again, Dr.
Wood's book and Dr.
Wood's research does document some of the rather gruesome...
I hate to say it, but there was one witness account where a torso was found inside their fire truck or the ambulance or their vehicle when they got back into it, just a human torso.
I mean, how does that happen?
There were some very grim stories like that.
If people want to go to the New York Times website and download the 500 witness accounts from the first responders, they will be able to find some of those accounts and get them from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
There's still going to be questions.
Obviously, this is not a tell-all interview.
We don't have the time for that.
Nobody should accept just one person's conclusions without obviously looking at everything on their own.
We do know that there are plenty of people here who are controlled opposition, placed intentionally to be in positions of authority.
Nobody's going to forget Mark Walsh just showing up randomly, and immediately he said, well, yeah, of course, the structural integrity was compromised due to the intense heat from the jet fuel.
I mean, come on.
That's clearly not believable.
It's laughable, really, to be honest with you.
I mean, despite thousands of people dying, losing their lives, it's laughable to think that people are that stupid.
Does the regime really believe that we're that ignorant?
But what about the question of who is responsible for this attack?
Well that's a good question.
We don't know who did it but we think we know who knows who did it.
Now that brings me on to the next slide 22.
We can just briefly mention this because it ties into a couple of things that you said including that question you just asked.
Because you know who do you believe?
Who's telling the truth?
Well this might give you a bit of a clue because Dr Judy Wood and Dr Reynolds who they were working together on this evidence They actually filed a legal case in 2007 against some of the contractors for NIST. Now some of the contractors that were used by NIST,
and NIST was tasked with investigating the destruction of the World Trade Center, they employed 23 contractors and a number of those contractors, in fact two that come to mind, Science Applications International Corporation and Applied Research Associates, they're companies that have contracts with the military which are involved Research or production of directed energy weapons, systems or components.
And we would contend that people in Science Applications International Corporation, SCIC, they know who did 9-11.
So you need to get somebody from SCIC on your show and ask them who did it, because I think somebody in there knows.
And that, again, is a whole other program.
And the point about this, showing you this slide, is that Dr.
Wood and Reynolds, they were convinced that this evidence was valid, it was true, and they took it to court.
Nobody else has done that.
And I think, again, there's just brief details on slide 23 of there.
Yeah, people with a 501c3 certainly aren't taking the time to do any of that.
And so then, that's after they did that case, on the next slide, 24, that's when the Dr.
Wood produced the book.
Where did the towers go?
Do you agree that people with a 501c3, they're not taking the time to do that.
These people can't even petition or go to the government or file a lawsuit or ask for an inquiry or an investigation.
So if they're not doing that, then I can only assume they're spending a lot of time raking in a whole bunch of millions of dollars to enrich themselves and to perpetuate a narrative.
And so, again, there's just so much to go over here.
At the end of the day, somebody did this.
I'm leaning towards, we did this.
This was an inside job.
We meaning our fake government murderous corporate crime syndicate.
The people that are all tied in to the people that we've referenced as the globalists or the elite cabal.
And so this is all about controlling people.
This whole thing was done in order to usher in things like the Patriot Act and unlimited surveillance by the intel and security apparatus of this country, which has been at war with American citizens for decades.
Do you agree?
I agree with that, but it goes beyond that as well as far beyond that because we're talking about the control of energy.
Everyone needs energy to run the world.
We all use all this energy all the time.
What we're talking about here is a use of energy which could remove the need for any type of use of any type of fuel.
And this is why Jones was involved, because he was involved with cold fusion research.
We haven't had time to get to that.
And it also involves climate change.
Now, we haven't got time to cover it, but Hurricane Erin, it moved in a straight line for four days between the 7th of September and the 11th of September.
And this was kind of downplayed by the media and then it wasn't mentioned during the day.
And then on the 12th of September, this storm system, it then, in fact, if you quickly could show slide number 34, that shows you the path of Erin.
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And that's what the architects and engineers group and the other groups like them are tasked with covering up.
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In fact, this is why I'm so keen to get this slide shown, because very few people talk about this.
And we know now they want to do climate lockdowns.
And this whole thing about Maui as well, that's going to be blamed on climate change.
In fact, it already has.
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I think there's something kicked off in Turkey I just saw literally just before coming on this show this evening.
They're going to blame that on climate change.
It's all a scam.
They have the technology to control the weather.
In my opinion, they've had it for at least 30 years, probably longer.
I agree.
This goes back to the days of Wilhelm Reich.
I agree 100%.
They've admitted this.
Cloud seeding.
They've admitted manipulating the weather.
Joe Biden actually just said that they're going to use every asset at the government's control to be able to manipulate the weather and have more of these catastrophic occurrences.
So Freudian slip?
I think not.
A lot more to talk about on this with you, and I hope that you'll come back in the future.
Andrew Johnson, thank you so much for being here, and we're going to get somebody from this SCIC to start answering some of these questions because we need to know who was it that had the capabilities of being able to pull this off on or around September 11, 2001.
For being here and for your bravery and for all of the information and the slides that you brought today, we appreciate it.
God bless you.
Thank you very much, sir.
Very much appreciated.
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You might have heard a few moments ago it was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing, and indeed it has.
Apparently that's only a few hundred yards away from where the World Trade Center towers were.
And it seems that this was not a result of a new attack.
It was because the building had been weakened during this morning's attacks.
We'll probably find out more now about that from our correspondent Jane Stanley.
Jane, what more can you tell us about the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse?
Well, only really what you already know.
Details are very, very sketchy.
There's almost a sense downtown in New York behind me, down by the World Trade Center, of just an area completely closed off as the rescue workers try to do their job.
But this isn't the first building that has suffered as a result.
We know that part of the Marriott Hotel next to the World Trade Center also collapsed as a result of this Huge amount of falling debris from 110 floors of the two twin towers of the World Trade Center.
As you can see behind me, the Trade Center appears to be still burning.
We see these huge clouds of smoke and ash, and we know that behind that, there's an empty piece of what was a very familiar New York skyline, a symbol of the financial prosperity of this city.
There are, of course, a lot of moving parts to the official story of 9-11 that are hard to believe.
Apparently, 19 goat herders with names like Durka Durk Abu Jihad came here from various shithole Middle Eastern countries were obviously here to do terrorism but evaded all notice.
And within a few months, they successfully hijacked four 757 Boeing airliners and in three cases successfully flew those airliners into buildings while the FBI and the CIA missed all warning signs.
Most of America has accepted this ridiculous narrative without a second thought.
But does it actually make sense?
Sure, our government can be incredibly incompetent.
But it's not like these Phantom terrorists simply slipped under everyone's radar.
In fact, no joke, actor James Woods himself spotted the future 9-11 hijackers a whole month before the attack.
I was on a flight.
Without going into the details of what made me suspicious of these four men, although it would have been blatantly obvious to the most casual observer, I took it upon myself to go to the flight attendant and ask to speak to the pilot of the plane.
The first officer came out.
I reported to him that I felt that the four men, and I said, can you look over my shoulder and see who I'm talking about?
And he said, yeah.
I said, I think they're going to hijack this plane.
I mean, everything they're doing, and I explained to him these details, which I've been asked to keep Private, until whatever, jurisdiction, you know, whatever trials may take place.
Their behavior was such that I felt they were going to hijack the plane.
When 9-11 happened, we were all stunned and we all happened to be at my house that evening and my friend Scott said to me, you know, remember that Flight you took in August?
I said, yeah, I've been thinking about it all day.
He said, well, maybe you should call the FBI. And I said, I'm sure they're being inundated, but I thought it overnight, call the local office.
And within two minutes, got a hold of a very intelligent young man, a special agent there, who took the report.
And I said, I hope I'm not wasting your time.
time.
He said, well, we have so many reports coming in.
And he said, and by the way, even if this leads to something, we don't like to backwash information to people because in case they have to go to a trial and be witnesses or whatever.
So you won't hear from us.
I said, well, great.
He said, but we appreciate your calling.
Quarter to seven the next morning, I get a phone call that actually wakes me up.
And he said, we want to talk to you about the flight that you took in August.
So it's worth asking, was the FBI trying to figure out how the terrorists slipped through the net or were they trying to manage public suspicion that they were allowed through the net?
Thank you.
Were there any sand-pounding jihadists actually involved with the attacks 22 years ago?
Or if it wasn't the FBI, was somebody else giving these magic terrorists a hand to make sure that everything went off correctly?
Could they really have done all of this themselves?
A lot of questions.
We know one person that we can talk with to try to unravel the mystery.
Buzz Patterson served 20 years as an active duty pilot for the US Air Force.
He was the senior military aide to President Clinton from 96 to 98, meaning he carried the President's emergency satchel, the famous nuclear football.
And he joins us now.
Thank you so much for coming.
We certainly appreciate you being here.
You bet, Sue.
Great to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, of course.
22 years later, here we are.
It seems that we're not getting answers to questions, but that we're only just finding more questions to ask.
What say you?
Well, I was, as you pointed out, Stu, I was the senior military aide to President Clinton.
I carried the nuclear football, and I happened to have worked in the Clinton administration 1996 to 1998.
One of the first things that I discovered when I got there, I had the same security clerics That President Clinton had.
So I got to see the presidential daily briefings.
I was in on a lot of the high-level meetings.
And I started seeing reports about this group called Al-Qaeda and their plan called Operation Bojinka, which was to hijack airplanes and fly them into buildings.
And this is 1995, Stu.
And as an Air Force pilot at the time, and then subsequently a Delta pilot, that caught my attention, obviously.
And as I detail on my book, Derelection of Duty, Clinton, we had many times to either capture or kill Bin Laden.
We knew about this plot.
We didn't do anything.
And years later, as I was flying for Delta Airlines, I was actually in the schedule that morning to fly from Atlanta.
This is 9-11.
At the morning of 9-11, the flight from Atlantity, New York, and was on my way to the airport, on my way to the airplane, actually, when I heard about the first tower going down, and then I was in the pilot lounge watching the TV when the second airplane went down, and I knew right then, Stu, That we had failed intelligence-wise dramatically, but that we also had a commander-in-chief prior to 9-11 that didn't do anything.
And when I saw those airplanes hit, I knew that we had been attacked and I knew it was Bill Clinton's fault.
What about the pilots themselves or the hijackers?
What kind of training could they receive specifically for that cockpit and even more specifically for that airline as to the layout?
Would the pilots have disengaged the autopilot?
How would these guys have the experience to be able to pull off military maneuvers like that and pinpoint them into the buildings?
That's a great question, and the answer is it would be so easy to teach somebody how to do that.
I mean, a 12-year-old with a Microsoft flight simulator, Stu, could figure it out in a couple days.
And so those guys weren't worried about the takeoff and the landing portion.
They were only worried about how to control the airplane and flight portion.
And it's like a video game.
You can even actually punch in the coordinates and of the World Trade Center and have the airplane fly itself into the World Trade Center, for example, on autopilot.
So it could have been, they could have punched it off, they could have floated in manually, or they could have just put in the coordinates.
So think about this.
My 12 year old can Coordinate and punch in coordinates that will go anywhere on Google Map.
And that would be so easy to do in an aircraft cockpit 7576, which is what these guys use.
You could put that into the computer face, punch the autopilot on, and just watch it happen.
It wouldn't be difficult at all.
So these guys, sure, they didn't learn how to take off or land.
I understand all of that.
But how would they have got specific cockpit Training for that aircraft?
In the simulator.
You can buy simulator time anywhere in this country.
You can buy 7.5 time, 7.6 time.
You can buy any airplane that you can fly in the country.
You can buy the flight time simulator for that.
I mean, the actual in the box with the motion, the speed sensations, the airplane moving, the same almost exact visual graphics you're going to get flying into New York.
So if these guys anted up with a lot of cash and bought a lot of simulator time, Again, it wouldn't be hard to do if they had the money behind them.
Yes, a lot of it still is like a video.
It's a real video game, but it's like a video game from the cockpit.
So these are actual things that you go and you sit in.
You're talking about like a legitimate flight simulator.
Every airline pilot in the United States of America has to do simulator training.
But not every extremist Muslim is doing that in these simulators.
Why hasn't anybody come forward and said, hey, these guys were in my simulator?
Well, I think they have.
There's been some flight schools in Florida, correct, that big guys were buying time for?
Yeah, these guys were the assessment guys.
Yeah, they were flying the little airplanes in the actual air, but you can buy the similar flight time.
I mean, Delta sells it to people all over the country.
So it's just out there.
And again, those guys were focused on one specific task, and that was to get the airplane, take control of the airplane, And put it on a target somewhere.
Again, Stu, and that's a couple of data links into the autopilot, and you just sit back again and watch the show.
So, you know, I don't know.
I'm not a never 9-11 kind of guy, or 9-11 truther kind of guy, and I've got some personal information.
Interest in this is I've had people who are involved in some of the aspects of this.
So I just know from my standpoint and not knowing anything else, I mean to me it was just a complete failure of our intel system.
It was a complete failure of our Commander-in-Chief and President Bill Clinton.
It was a complete failure to keep our eye on the ball.
We had the information six years prior to it actually happening.
I mean there was a bona fide plot to make this happen and we knew about it and we didn't do enough obviously.
Why do you suppose it is that nobody wants to ask questions about the involvement of other people that could have potentially had a hand in this, including Western intel agencies like the CIA, which, by the way, we've never been able to see their reports.
You know, and that's also a great question.
I would tell you that our government probably has a lot to hide there.
So, you know, I do believe that there's been a lot of track covering.
In the aftermath of the 9-11 Commission, the aftermath of that was just a joke.
They didn't do anything.
It really got to the truth of anything, really.
And there was no feasible action items to implement after the 9-11 Commission.
The 9-11 Commission essentially existed, Stu, to cover up The politicians that had been involved on whatever level cover up any responsibility for not having done the job under the Clinton administration to do the job correctly.
And I think that there's plenty of blame to go around, and I believe our government's got a lot to cover up, and that's why we really haven't gotten to the bottom of it.
But from my perspective, that's what happened.
Yeah, I mean, including the CIA ties directly to Osama bin Laden and all of the funding of al-Qaeda that we did.
That's a lot of stuff.
See, that's probably you're really getting to the meat right now, Stu, because the CIA and FBI involvement with al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden prior to 9-11, and, you know, we really didn't react after bin Laden bombed our embassies in Africa in 1998.
You know, Tanzania and Kenya were both bombed.
We knew it was al-Qaeda.
We knew it was bin Laden, and we didn't do anything after that either.
So I'm just saying that there's a lot of culpability in this that we need to get to the bottom of someday.
And I just think it's our government covering up for themselves.
Do you think it's possible that there was any foreknowledge or actually, to take it even a step further, assistance in planning these attacks by a Western agency?
Western agency, I could see, well, I'm not sure Western.
I can guarantee you that Iraq was involved and Pakistan was involved.
Of course Saudi Arabia was complicit as well.
I would not know of any intel agencies or Western agencies that would be behind this.
But again, I don't know everything.
I'm just telling you what I saw coming across the wires in the Clinton administration.
But just what ties that closely, you know, the CIA and Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda and the FBI all tied in, I think it would be really difficult to assume that, no, they just had no idea that any of this was going on.
I mean, this was right under their nose.
It would be difficult to assume also, to your point, is that we would expect the CIA and bin Laden to stop at some point.
We were using him in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union, so there were probably relationships there from the Afghanistan days of Bin Laden and with the CIA that I'm not sure that I could imagine a scenario where the CIA would immediately stop contact.
To me, that seems a little bogus as well.
Yeah.
Combine that with the dancing Israelis in New Jersey.
They seemed awfully happy, and then poof, we're just supposed to forget about that, memory hole that.
These are Mossad agents on U.S. soil with all kinds of evidence that they were involved for nefarious, all kinds of cash, brand new cameras, all of these things.
Just happened to be there in Jersey, taking a look at this and jumping up and down, celebrating, and really happy about it.
But for some reason, you know, of course, we're supposed to believe that's our biggest ally.
So don't say anything about our greatest ally.
Oh, that's true, too.
We appreciate you being here so much.
Buzz Patterson, thank you.
Anytime, Stu.
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Well, it's important that people understand it's important that people understand that Flight 77 was used as a weapon against the Pentagon and many, many people died.
The suggestion has been that our government was involved in that, and hopefully this video puts all that to rest.
Colonel Rob Maness spent 32 years serving in the United States Air Force.
Today, he's the host of The Rob Maness Show.
Well, Rob was at the Pentagon on 9-11, serving on duty with the National Military Command Center when the building was struck.
Incredibly, the Pentagon is so enormous that Rob says, hey, I didn't even realize that the building had been hit when it happened.
Only when the entire wing began to fill with smoke did he realize the building was impacted by something.
Official reports tell us that at least 125 Pentagon personnel died in the attacks that day, but it might have been more, if not for Rob, who immediately sprung into action to assist those wounded at the scene, and he joins us now.
Colonel Maness, thank you so much for making the time for us today.
We appreciate you being here.
Hey, Stu.
Thanks for covering this.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, of course.
So take us back 22 years ago today.
What did you see?
I mean, there's so many questions about 9-11.
It seems like every year that passes, there are only more of them that continue to arise.
Anomalies, phenomena popping up all over the place.
Yeah.
At the time, I worked in the building inside the National Military Command Center.
And at that time, that was the only location that had an armed guard.
You had to go through a controlled entry point to get into the entire building.
And like 22,000 plus people worked in that building.
So there were over 20,000 people already at work I was actually on a phone call with a colleague in Europe planning a command and control inspection.
I did nuclear command and control for Europe and NATO as part of my primary job on the joint staff.
And he had a monitor.
I was just a major.
So I was a young guy, relatively speaking.
I didn't have a TV monitor in my cubicle.
I just had a telephone.
And he actually said, Rob, I just saw an aircraft hit The World Trade Center building.
And I said, okay.
Well, he and I were both aviators and we know that small airplanes hit big buildings all the time, much more than the average citizen that doesn't fly realizes.
And I said, well, what was it?
He goes, I don't know.
And we kept talking.
And then the second airplane, he saw a full live action shot.
Of the second aircraft hit the building and identified it as a Boeing 757.
And that's when I said, hey, this does not look right.
It doesn't look like an accident.
He agreed.
So we got off the phone and went to our prospective duties.
And one of mine was to go talk to the general that's...
Or the Admiral that's in charge of 1-800-PENTAGON, literally 1-800-PENTAGON. When you call it, there's an operations center with about 30 officers and enlisted personnel led by a general or an Admiral.
They were starting to realize that we were under attack at the very moment that I started talking to my boss who was communicating with them.
So we have to figure out what's going on at that point.
But all hell is breaking loose.
All hell is breaking loose.
My wife worked at a building south of the Pentagon, about 10 miles, called the Army Times Publishing Building.
And we started getting rumors that an aircraft had crashed on that highway.
It was her building was literally on the highway.
And then my phone rang.
I was back at my desk and it was her on the phone asking if I was all right.
And that's when I realized that something had happened around the Pentagon.
And the report was that an aircraft had hit the highway next to the Pentagon, which is the same highway that her building was on 10 miles south.
So, from that point on, we just continued working and, you know, things were happening like all airline aircraft were grounded by a decision by the chairman and the Secretary of Transportation immediately told to put down.
The building was evacuated like it was a fire drill, which put about 5,000 people at each corner of the Pentagon, about 200 yards away.
And then finally, those of us that weren't directly on the phones inside the military command center were told to go ahead and evacuate.
And when I evacuated, Stu, I came out and I saw a friend of mine.
He was directing traffic.
The hallway that we always entered at Exeter, the building had a clinic in it.
So all the clinic people had had taken their gear and run outside and set up a triage area down at the bottom of the hill.
And this this is the area of the Pentagon.
It's northeast of the building.
You're looking out at the river.
So it's called the riverside or the river entrance side.
And that's where all the setups were.
And there were just casualties being run out all over the place down this hill.
So I went to ask him what was going on and where I could be most useful.
And he just said, hey, you know, there's people coming out of the building on these gurneys and identified with it, what it looked like.
And he said, they just need first aid and everything.
And so I hopped on, hopped into the pathway of one of those.
And it happened to be actually a guy named Brian Birdwell, who was an army lieutenant colonel.
That I helped him get his IV fix.
It was broken at the time, but he was in really bad shape.
And he was about 15 to 20 yards from the impact of the aircraft into the building because it was his boss's office, the army personnel general.
It was his office suite that the aircraft impacted.
And Brian just happened to be going to the men's room.
And the building is made of concrete.
So even the hallway walls are concrete, reinforced concrete.
And that aircraft was on the other side of a concrete wall from him when he was coming out of that restroom.
And that saved his life.
But he was badly burned.
He went through many, many, many burn treatments and operations and rehab and those kind of things.
Unfortunately, I didn't even know whether he had lived until 15 years later.
And a guy named Governor Rick Perry from Texas brought us together, because Brian's a state senator from Texas now, at the 2016 Republican National Convention.
And somebody asked me on Twitter if I had ever broken down and cried after the event.
And quite honestly, I went on from this event to later command a B-1 squadron and take the war to the enemy in Afghanistan.
But 15 years later, when I met Brian Birdwell and we realized who each other were from that day, we both cried.
And that was the first time that I was doing that.
But anyway, so after we got Brian transported, a call for volunteers came out to go back inside the building.
There's a courtyard in the building that's nicknamed the Ground Zero Courtyard and Ground Zero Cafe is in the center of it.
That harkens back to the Cold War days.
But the fire department couldn't get inside to the courtyard to help fight the fire and look for casualties and survivors from inside.
So, I don't know, 150 to 200 of us volunteered to go back inside.
We used our shirts and t-shirts and wet with water as a smoke mask to get through the smoke because the smoke was so heavy when we went back in that we had to hold each other and perform a human The chain and hold each other by the shoulder as we walk back in to get into the courtyard.
And I worked in the area where the cockpit was most of the rest of the day.
It broke through its last wall in the B ring.
There's an alleyway between each ring and the rings are set up A, B, C, D, and E from inside to out, A being the inner.
And the cockpit broke through that B ring wall into the alleyway.
So, eventually, I found myself on a team that was working in that area, identifying debris and items and those kinds of things.
Explain the debris to us.
What debris were you able to identify?
Well, I identified the cockpit.
At this point, I was a major.
I had also spent many years picking up aircraft accidents, so I know what an aircraft looks like from the inside out, really.
So I identified the cockpit checklist from the air crew, an air crew checklist, identified remains of people that were in uniforms, airline pilot uniforms, those kind of things.
The aircraft also hit the Navy's brand new command center which was the only part in that building that was operational because the building was undergoing a renovation and that was the first wedge to go operational and the Navy command center was the first operational aspect of it.
So there was a lot of classified material and those kind of things.
So that whole area is what we were doing identifying that while at the same time Thank God the Navy trains their people to fight fires effectively as professionally as a firefighter does, because all those guys on ships and gals are trained to do this.
They were trying to get the fire under control from inside because there was no fire department there.
Uh, so there was a lot, a lot of chaos, a lot going on there.
Uh, and, uh, uh, you could even see into the hole, uh, of where the fuselage was back towards the outer part of the building, what was left of it.
There were, you could even tell that there were some people still strapped in airline passenger seats.
Uh, if you, if you look through there and those kinds of things.
So it was pretty devastating day.
Knowing what we know now and knowing all of the years that we spent in Afghanistan, do you think that it was really Osama bin Laden and these Saudis and Afghanis that were the real enemy, that they were the ones that planned and implemented and carried out these attacks?
Well, you know, I think the core of it was those folks that did the, you know, executed the attack and did a lot of the planning.
But you know, what we have learned recent, you know, not recently, but over the years, we've learned there was a lot of logistics And coordination and command and control and training and all of that.
And we've seen and learned that there were elements of the Saudi Arabian government that were involved.
We finally got the commissioner report, that part that was classified, released to the point where you could actually see that.
We suspect that there may have been some involvement from some American or Western intelligence agents, at a minimum agents, if not an agency operation itself in some form or another.
But the military intelligence that I saw in the aftermath, part of my job became to be part of a group that was looking at the intelligence on the military side that we had trying to figure out who had done this and then develop a response plan.
So everything that I saw from a military perspective Revealed the perpetrators and to the level of, you know, that they were doing the planning and that led back to Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden hiding out in the lower Hindu Kush of Afghanistan.
You know, but what you don't see in the military side is you can't see the CIA, the NSA, the other Western civilian intelligence agencies that Bring all that data together, you're only seeing the military intelligence.
I really can't answer that question specifically from that perspective.
Yeah, likely by design.
We're not allowed to see those things.
Yeah, exactly right.
You were an aviator.
Is it possible for somebody to learn how to fly in a Cessna and then jump into the cockpit of a Boeing 757 jumbo jet and successfully pinpoint it and change the avionics to reroute themselves to crash into that point of the Pentagon specifically?
I mean, to me, that official narrative is rather insulting to aviators like yourself and around the world and as well as the American public.
Like, we're going to expect you to just believe this.
Well, it's possible, but, you know, it's really risky to do that, you know.
A, they didn't have to learn how to take the airplane off.
B, they didn't have to learn how to land the airplane.
They had to learn some basic avionics of that specific cockpit for that airline because these cockpits are not all exactly the same.
When would they have received that kind of training for that particular plane and that particular airline?
Well, that's another good question that I don't know the answer to.
I mean, I know the answer to the fact that they would have to get specific training.
And usually that's done in a simulator at the airlines that you're going to go fly for.
But yes, it is possible to have a learn the controls in a Cessna, basic maneuvering of the aircraft, to learn that.
And to learn some basic avionics.
But, you know, if the pilots had disconnected the autopilot before the cockpit was taken over, it would be very difficult for you to be able to control the aircraft at the right level, keep it at the right speed to keep it from stalling out, get it pointed in the right direction.
And quite honestly, you know, it's iffy.
It's questionable whether that could actually be done, but it is dual.
So many unanswered questions from that day.
We do have answers to one question, who was a hero there at the Pentagon that day, and it was certainly you.
We really appreciate all of your efforts, all the people that you helped, so many senseless victims, and hopefully someday we'll get to the bottom of what really happened there.
Colonel Maness, thank you so much for making the time for us.
God bless you, sir.
Thank you, Stu.
Thanks for covering this because we're still dealing with the aftermath of this.
Unfortunately, some of those tools are pointed at Americans.
They certainly are.
We appreciate it.
Again, thank you.
Thank you.
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