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Sound of Freedom...Amplified by Americas Veterans? Why Not?
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with you because it weighs heavy on me, but it also may turn out to be somewhat of a positive opportunity for our community, our veteran community.
And of course, I don't like to talk about and pose a problem without talking about some sort of solution.
So today we're going to have a discussion about that.
So please stick with us.
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Okay, so as I said in the intro, I had an experience that's weighing on me, and I thought that this would be an interesting thing for us to discuss.
But before I get to that, and again because this is Sunday again, the 13th, and I know that this may be somewhat old news, But I can't tell you how elated I was to see the U.S. women's soccer team lose that game.
Megan Rapinoe, thank you for being a complete idiot and blowing it.
Some say that maybe she tanked on purpose.
Whatever.
She got what she deserves.
She went out...
Missing the game-winning goal, the penalty kick.
Prayers do come true.
Anyway, I digress.
So anyway, my wife and I, we went to see this movie, Sounds of Freedom.
The movie about child trafficking and...
The Tim Ballard story.
And I gotta tell you guys, as a person who knew that this type of thing happens, it still hit me very hard.
As I think it did many people, right?
And when we walked out of the theater and got into the truck, I just felt super heavy.
Right?
We sat there for a couple hours watching the story and watching...
Tim Ballard's journey to rescue these couple kids.
Watched him quit his job and go through this transformation of sorts where he went from a guy who was just doing a job.
In the beginning there was some talk about this part of the job is what we do.
The follow-up and everything that leads after is somebody else's job, but this is our piece of the pie.
And then it transformed to, well, no, we gotta see this through.
And if you haven't seen it, I won't give a bunch of information and spoil it for you, but the conversation that we had on the way home was, how do you quit doing that job?
You know, and I applaud Tim Ballard for his dedication and his bravery and his courage.
But my question to him would be, how did you find the fortitude to keep going?
Because you see this movie and at the end of it Now you're starting to feel a little better.
He accomplished his mission.
He found these kids, returned them to their family.
But then they run, during the credits, they run all this information about the amount of kids that are taken and the amount of people who are just snatched up and forced into this life of slavery and trafficking.
And then they talk about the amount of money that this industry is profiting every year.
It's absolutely insane to me.
Some statistics here.
Child trafficking is a $9.56 billion a year industry, roughly, just in America alone.
$150 billion worldwide.
That's crazy to me.
What I don't understand is how, just in our country alone, how our government is not making this a top priority.
These are our children.
This is our future.
And so since we've seen this thing, I've been doing some research and watching videos and interviews and things like that.
And You know, Mel Gibson gets a lot of shade for events that happened some years ago where he kind of had his meltdown or whatever.
But he's right.
These children, our children, are our future.
And we've talked about that many times on this show, but these are the little ones, these are the individuals That are going to be responsible for our well-being as we age.
And the survival of our culture, of our way of life.
And they're just getting snatched up.
Check out this graphic I found.
Here it is.
So this is...
According to the National Human Trafficking Hotline, this is statistics from 2019, guys.
2019, I understand, is a few years back, but it was the soonest year that I could find that had statistics that were comparable over different...
Outlets, they were comparable over different sources.
Once you got into 21 in 2020, the numbers were different depending on where you looked.
But in 19, they seemed to be, there was some continuity among all the different sources in which I found them.
And I imagine that the excuse for that would be the pandemic.
So people were reporting differently and this and that and the other thing.
But these are the numbers here.
This was in 2019, the amount of people, of individuals, who were swooped up and forced into human trafficking.
And majority of the people are either put into sex trafficking or into labor, like work camps.
And from what I was reading...
A large number of folks are put into situations where they're doing both.
So they will be doing some kind of slave labor during the day and then, you know, after working hours they become toys or objects for people and then they're sold to people to do whatever they do to them.
It's all just absolutely ridiculous and sickening to me.
But this is an astounding amount of people.
So if you're watching this, look at your state.
California, of course, is the biggest at 1,507.
Texas, 1,080.
We're up in Minnesota.
104 people at 19 were swooped up and dumped into human trafficking situations.
It's just a lot.
It's a lot of people, folks.
And so it got me wondering...
Why this is not more of a publicly talked about issue in our country and why does it not seem like these folks are being hunted down and these people return to their families or at least return to a safe place?
What is going on here?
And so the conspiracy is, a lot of people say, well, it's not a big deal for the government because many top officials in the government are in on it.
People like Mel Gibson are saying that all the big wigs in Hollywood are in on it.
And of course, all these folks with all the money and the power and the control, they're not gonna fight out against it because they're guilty and they're taking advantage and these are the people That are in on this type of situation, which is an extremely scary thing.
And so then it also got me thinking about how our government could turn this into an opportunity for veterans.
Could turn this into a way for veterans to continue to serve.
And we talked about other opportunities like this in the past on the show, much like when we had some school shootings going on.
And so I did some other research on that.
Since Columbine in 1999, more than 356,000 children have experienced gun violence in school.
It says here there has been 386 school shootings since Columbine happened in 1999.
Now, we've heard of some of them.
We haven't heard of 386 of them.
Wouldn't you agree that veterans who are maybe struggling to find some purpose After they leave, the military might do well with this type of thing.
Why would we not put them into schools?
Why would that not be a situation that we could say, hey, why don't we put a call out to veterans to apply for this type of security gig or whatever you want to call it?
And give them the opportunity to secure our children in school.
Now, it doesn't necessarily take the Navy SEALs and the Army Rangers to probably secure a school.
You could probably get veterans of all ability levels.
You know, even the older guys who could sit at the door, take IDs and names and, you know, ensure that you're there for the right reasons.
And then those who are more able-bodied could do the roving patrols or, you know, whatever.
There's probably a million different ways to set this thing up.
But it'd be a great thing to help them find purpose.
Because as we know...
There are many veterans who struggle to reintegrate, right?
This is the word that we like to use is reintegration.
How do we reintegrate back into civilian life after either a whole career or many years in military service and living that lifestyle?
How do we get back to being a civilian?
Some guys and gals just have a super hard time and some don't ever, ever make it back to that status.
They just kind of float under the radar and just exist.
But these are the types of things, I think, that would give them a purpose and motivate them to get up every day and to go to a job and to do it well.
And we want to talk about things that would help to lower the veteran suicide rate.
Something like this might be a great idea.
Unlike we talked about a couple weeks ago where the government and the VA are trying to work together to take away second amendment rights for veterans who are not good with their money, that make poor financial decisions.
Or have anger issues when they're at the VA hospital or CBOC at a clinic trying to get some care and they're not happy with the care they're getting.
Or have some kind of interaction with law enforcement.
Their answer is to take away their gun rights and that's what's going to reduce the veteran suicide rate.
And I don't know if that's true.
I do however know that if you offered these men and women the ability to continue to serve, to continue to answer the call that they answered However many years ago it was for each individual person that they walked into recruiting office,
signed their name on a dotted line, signed their blank check to the government, strapped up their boots, put on their uniform, and Charlie-Miked onto their mission.
I think this would help a lot.
I also think that it would be helpful To get some of these veterans who maybe were in upper echelon type units and allow them to do the work like Tim Ballard has done.
And to the best of my knowledge is still doing.
I think Sounds of Freedom is probably just the tip of the iceberg.
Of the work that Tim Ballard has done in his career to help fight this child trafficking issue.
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can tell you one thing.
If somebody offered me the ability to hunt down these children that have been taken from their families and put into this horrific situation, gave me an opportunity to go find these folks, deal with them, and then bring these kids back to their families.
I wouldn't even need to think about it.
What I should say is that I would have a long conversation with my wife about it, but I can't promise you that I would do that, and I think that she would understand.
I hope that she would understand.
And I'm not sure that these folks deserve to even be prosecuted, arrested, none of that.
I think that when you find them, if you have the evidence that they're guilty, they just die right there.
No court, no jury, no trial.
If you're guilty, you're dead.
You die.
Right here, right now, today.
As they say in the movie, God's children are not for sale.
My children are not for sale.
Your children are not for sale.
America's children are not for sale.
Or they shouldn't be.
Why is this not an issue that our government is making a top priority?
I just really don't understand it.
Why the hell are we sending millions of dollars to places like the Ukraine?
What are we doing?
Our children are being stolen and being sodomized by perverts that are paying to do it.
And what's even, in my opinion, what's even worse than them are the people that are selling our children to these perverts.
Knowing what's happening to them and profiting off of it.
They don't care.
This is a business, folks.
$9.56 billion a year changes hands.
All for some children to be sodomized and abused by perverts.
I once saw a TED talk of this lady who was trying to pose this argument that pedophiles should be a protected class.
They didn't ask for this and they were born this way.
And that they should be protected and lumped into the LGBTQ RSTUV plus group of people.
And that was, I don't know, four or five, six years ago.
In fact, When I saw that video, I believe Stu Peters and I were sitting in a truck bounty hunting together and we were having a conversation about it when the video popped up.
I think we were doing surveillance or we were driving somewhere to go find some dirtbag that needed to go to jail and sit down for a little while.
And that's just something that I can't get behind.
We have programs for handicapped folks, mentally handicapped folks.
But this is something that I don't believe is...
You're not going to be protected.
If you like to do sexual things to kids, you're not going to be protected.
And so...
I believe that it's a hard, dirty, gruesome, horrible job that people like Tim Ballard have to do.
Because the question once again is, how do you continue to go on?
How do you stop doing that job?
How do you retire?
How do you take a vacation?
How do you take a day off?
When you know...
When you know...
How is it possible?
When you know that every year...
So, for me, right, in Minnesota...
When I know every year 104 people...
At least this year, in 2019, that we're showing here...
In 2019, 104 people...
Majority of them children...
We're taken from their families and forced into sex trafficking and slave labor.
Well, if my job is to hunt these kids down and these people down to return them to their family and then deal with the ones that took them, how do you stop until you get all 104?
Because the day you take off to take a vacation, You would think that that'd be on your mind all the time.
And those are some questions that I would have for Tim, for Tim Ballard, for Mr.
Ballard.
It's gotta be gut-wrenching.
And you have to figure out how to balance, have that work-life balance.
But in my opinion, it's not a job.
It's more of a crusade of sorts, right?
And so again, If we allowed our nation's heroes, that people like to label veterans as our nation's heroes.
I don't know that every veteran likes that terminology.
But if we let our nation's heroes...
I don't want to say let them loose on the streets to go find these people, because I think then there'd be some chaos...
But I think if there was some controlled chaos and there was some training about how to go about doing this and doing these investigations and finding these people and I believe that it would be a successful endeavor.
And these are the types of things In my opinion, that would a thousand percent help to positively impact one of the real pandemics in this country, which is the veteran suicide rate.
You see, I don't know that The answer to veteran suicide is to limit things.
Take it away.
Threaten to take it away.
I don't know if you can have this.
You shouldn't be involved in that.
I don't know if that's the ticket.
You see, the military lifestyle is mission-driven for many, many, many people.
And I believe that when folks leave the military and they leave that mission-driven lifestyle, that might be one of the biggest problems that they have.
And so giving them a mission, a purpose every day, It helps them extraordinarily to overcome that depression, the anxiety, the adjustment disorder, the sleep issues, the post-traumatic stress to deal with a little bit better.
And maybe in some way, it also kind of just gives them a reason to suppress it, maybe a little bit.
Because today this is our mission.
Today we can't worry about it.
Today we have this to do.
We can worry about the things that bother us tomorrow or even tonight when we punch out of work.
When the day is done.
When the duty day is over, then we can be depressed and sad and pissed off or whatever.
But right now we gotta go find some kids.
And I think that that would be an amazing way to help these guys and gals over that hump.
Not limiting the thing.
Don't threaten to take away my gun rights because I might make some bad financial decisions.
Or because I made a mistake and I had run in with law enforcement.
We all know that every group has their share of shitbags, right?
There's some in the veteran community too, but we gotta own them.
Nobody dislikes a shitbag veteran more than a non-shitbag veteran, right?
Just like cops, right?
Nobody hates a horrible, power-hungry, racist, POS cop more than the good cops.
But even the police have them in their ranks somewhere, somehow, someway.
And it goes for every person.
Nurses too.
Nobody hates a bad nurse more than a good one because now you give them all a bad name.
Any of those people you deal with.
But we're talking about the ones who really are seeking a change, who are really seeking some help, who are really looking For something positive in their life.
And there's a lot of folks out there.
A lot of people.
And I'll tell you, I just met a new guy, a veteran, also medically retired.
I believe he did two or three tours in Afghanistan and one for sure in Iraq.
Doesn't need to work.
He's medically retired.
He gets his VA benefits.
But if you ask him, he'll tell you, I have to work.
If I don't work, I'll sit at home, I'll get depressed, and then I get suicidal.
So, I work seven days a week.
He's got to, or he will kill himself, is his exact words.
And so, when I had the opportunity recently, this week, to have a conversation with him, I was telling him about seeing this movie and this idea I had.
Now mind you, this guy was not an upper echelon soldier.
He wasn't infantry Joe.
He wasn't even really a combat, so he was a mechanic.
But he did a lot of infantry style stuff while he was deployed because of the unit he was in.
And so I just asked him, I was like, hey, have you seen this movie?
He has not seen it yet, but apparently him and his wife are going to go sometime soon.
He's very interested in seeing it.
So I kind of gave him the slow, or not slow, but the small rundown on it, right?
Just the Cliff Notes version.
I didn't want to spoil it for him.
And I said, you know, if you were given the opportunity to quit your current jobs And go out and hunt for these children to return them to their families.
And then also deal with the people that snatched these kids.
The people that bought these kids.
And everybody in between.
What would you think of that?
He said, well, I wouldn't even have to think about it.
I'd call all my bosses right now and tell them, hey, thanks for the opportunity, but I'm out.
He goes, I'd tell my wife that I'm going to do this, and if I need to pack bags, I'll pack them.
He'd tell me where to be.
I'll be there tomorrow morning.
And just, like, his face lit up.
He said, oh, I don't know anything about investigating.
I don't know anything about any of that, but...
Whatever I can do to be part of the team, I'll do it.
He said, I don't care.
And I think that that's the reaction you would get from a lot of veterans.
If we went and walked the streets and found homeless veterans who are 10 years or less separated, even some Vietnam veterans, would you contribute to this initiative?
I bet you get an overwhelming percentage of yeses.
Absolutely.
I'll be there tomorrow.
Wouldn't even have to think about it.
But for some reason, it is not a priority for our government.
I don't understand why.
But anyway, folks, of course, as usual, we went way over our time.
We need to take a break.
We'll be right back.
Stick with us.
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Hey folks, welcome back here to the show.
When we ended the last segment, I was on my soapbox, of course, over time.
And we were talking about getting veterans on board for this initiative to put them to work.
And a new mission to return children and other people to their families or to a safe space outside of a trafficking situation.
And I guess my thinking about other questions that I have about this situation is why could there not be just a group of It doesn't even have to specifically be veterans,
although I think that vets might be a group of people that are among the best suited for this type of work, even though it probably weighs very heavily on your mental health and your emotions and things like that.
And I think the answer to that question is money.
I think that everyone decides that it should be a government initiative because it seems like a law enforcement type initiative and it's probably pretty expensive.
Pretty expensive to get the equipment, the access to different information systems, maybe to start hunting down information on On the whereabouts of people and things like that.
And some of that is probably true.
But there is a lot of things happening in our world today that seem like should be government operations.
I mean, how long has...
Organized crime, for example, been a thing.
Well, some would say that the government has their hands into that as well.
But take the job that Stu Peters and I did together for so long, hunting down fugitives, right?
That whole job...
It's all about putting yourself in the same exact place with one person anywhere in the world at the same exact time.
So, learning about how they think, where they might be, where they're going to run to, their habits, stuff like that.
It's all a learned skill set.
And I'll tell you one thing, folks.
You know, I have my strengths in that line of work, but Mr.
Peters is on a whole other level.
He's an extremely good investigator.
So that just goes to show not just veterans are well-suited for the job, but it'd be a great opportunity for a lot of people.
But I think it boils down more than anything to money.
It boils down to money.
How is this group of people going to finance this?
And also, how are they going to be paid?
And maybe this is an initiative and a project that many people would do for free.
But unfortunately, our world doesn't revolve around being able to work for free.
We all have bills to pay.
We all have kids to raise.
And we can't.
We just can't work for free.
So, I think by default everyone just assumes that this is some kind of or should be some kind of government operation that is supervised and put on by some three-letter government agency.
But if the stars all aligned, And some filthy rich guy decided, or gal, decided that they were going to just fund this thing and they were going to put down X amount of dollars for X amount of people to start off this organization to go try to save as many children as possible.
I don't see why a group of people who are professional...
You know, I'm not out here trying to say that we need to send groups of vigilantes out on the street and just start executing pedophiles and people that snatch up kids and stuff like that.
But maybe I am kind of saying that.
I don't know.
But I think that there's a professional way to get to that point, right?
The way that you conduct your investigation, the way that you That you move about the communities and, you know, we don't need to just go around destroying communities looking for these kids.
I think once you find them and the way that you deal with these people is a whole other issue.
But I think it comes down to money and access.
But the access part, although can be daunting and difficult, I think there is a way to get more access than we think we can in a legal way.
But again, that takes money.
But there's a way to get it.
There's a way to find it.
But keep in mind also that there is roughly in this country...
Amongst all eras, somewhere around 16.5 million veterans in this country.
I think if there was a group of, let's say, 500 people.
Let's start with 500 people.
And just for conversation's sake, 400 of them were veterans.
And the rest were anybody else who wanted to contribute.
I mean, hell, it doesn't even need to be 400 veterans.
Whoever, whoever wants to contribute, whoever has something to bring to the table.
Because at the end of the day, the end goal is to save these people and get them safe to a safe place and out of this nightmare.
And I think 500 people who are well-funded Who have some type of leadership that is knowledgeable about getting and securing information.
I think that they could make a pretty decent dent in all of this.
But if we are going to also operate under the assumption that the rich and powerful Are key players in this problem.
We also have to think about how we're going to navigate this whole issue and operate within the confines of the law, first of all, but also under their nose, so to speak.
Because nobody is going to...
The last thing you want to do is go out and conduct your investigation, then all of a sudden you get Clinton'd, right?
And all of a sudden you're just gone, right?
Mysteriously the brakes on your car are missing or whatever it is.
There's all kinds of conspiracy theories out there about how people have disappeared or have been rubbed out, so to speak.
But I don't know that this is an issue that needs to only be taken on by the government.
As we saw in the movie, Tim Ballard separated himself from his government agency that he worked for.
He was able to find people with deep pockets to help him get to where he needed to be to accomplish his mission.
But I think, guys, it's just too much.
There's just too much of it going on.
And the people that are responsible deserve to be called out.
They deserve to be put out in the public square and exposed.
And maybe some of you are thinking or saying, you know, this has been an issue for centuries.
People have been abusing kids in this way since the beginning of time.
In fact, when I was deployed to Iraq, we had the opportunity to go to Doha, Qatar for a four-day pass, a little R&R break.
And they offered us all kinds of opportunities to go on tours, you know, there was like a fishing trip, there was some tours in the city to see some stuff that they were building, whatever.
There was all kinds of activities that we could do as U.S. soldiers.
It wasn't a war zone, so to speak, and, you know, go out and eat on the local economy, see what the food was like, or shopping, or whatever.
The one thing that you were not allowed to do, however, was to go and see the camel races.
So they had what looks like a horse track, right?
Like we would go and bet on horses.
They have camel races in Doha.
We were not allowed to go there because the individuals that take care of and race the camels are all children and they're considered slaves.
And because the US doesn't support slave labor, we weren't allowed to go and be patrons of that particular activity.
Which was fine with me.
I had no interest in contributing any of my money to such a thing.
But it just goes to show that it happens all over the place.
But I digress.
What do we need to do?
What are the steps that need to be taken?
And so I think that people like Mel Gibson and the folks in his circle who are out there talking about building awareness is the first step.
This is the first part of the fight.
And I believe that this movie is doing that.
Millions of people have seen it.
But what I really wonder is, what is the next step?
And how are people going to participate in the next step and the step after that?
Because it would seem to me that as we progress through the steps, it's going to take people getting a little bit more involved each time.
I for one am interested in being involved if the opportunity were presented to me some way, somehow.
But I agree that awareness, awareness, awareness, awareness is the first good step in any fight, in any cause, or dare I say in any crusade.
But I also am the type of person that wants to know what's next.
What can we expect next?
And how are we really going to fight this fight?
And not only get back our kids and the individuals that have been taken from us and put into this nightmare, but prevent it from continuing to happen.
And to those people out there who say things like, well, Richard, this has been happening since the beginning of time.
Yeah, so?
In the beginning of time, my kids weren't here, right?
My kids weren't vulnerable.
My kids weren't out there.
Your kids weren't out there.
We live in a whole different time, a different era, and I just can't imagine.
I can't imagine what these parents and these families go through.
And there's one scene in this movie where Tim Ballard is talking to the father of this girl who has been taken, and And he just very simply asks, he asked Tim Ballard, the guy asked Tim, if it was your daughter, would you be able to sleep at night?
Would you be able to rest?
Would you be able to stay calm?
Ask yourself that.
And I think that's the part that hit me the hardest.
Because the answer is no.
Absolutely not.
I wouldn't be able to.
So how do you try to console anybody and say, hey, it'll be okay.
They'll find her.
Everything will be all right.
You don't know.
Ask yourself, if it was your child, how would you handle it?
How would you handle having to leave the fate of your children into the hands of some federal agent?
Especially in today's day, when you don't know if you can even trust your federal law enforcement agencies.
I think as of late, we've seen that the FBI is Not very trustworthy.
But I know who I can trust if my kids were to get stolen.
I know that I would call a few people and 98% of them all wore a uniform with an American flag on the sleeve.
In a country where we have roughly 16 and a half million men and women that serve this country as soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines, and Coast Guard, let's not forget the Coast Guard, why would we not use the abilities that we taught them to use?
Just because they're out doesn't mean that it's gone.
Now, many of us are, of course, a lot older.
Probably gained a little bit of weight.
Might have some aches and pains.
But remember this.
To conduct an investigation, Doesn't always take Superman, right?
A lot of it's mental.
A lot of it's thinking.
A lot of it's research.
A lot of it's talking to people.
Like the bounty hunting game.
Majority of it is boring.
Research.
Reading, talking to people, getting lied to, checking addresses, checking places, checking this, checking that.
A very small part of it is, holy crap, that's intense.
Kicking in doors and chasing people and running and fighting and, you know, that type of thing.
Majority of our investigations, Stu Peters and I, majority of them were not super intense, high action.
I mean, majority of it was truck time, computer time, research on the phone, finding addresses, finding people, talking to people, all kinds of stuff.
So we don't necessarily need to be triathletes, right, to conduct these investigations.
But there's enough of us out there that are still in really good shape that can contribute that part to the team.
I guess what I'm really trying to say, folks, is that there's really no good reason.
There's really no good reason why Our nation's veterans couldn't take on this job, this burden, if you will.
Most of us already carry the burdens of war with us, the burdens of military service in general with us.
Those things don't necessarily ever leave you.
And I think that out of 16.5 million of us, you'd get at least 500 to start the show.
And I think that even if you get 100 and they're funded well enough and they're trained well enough, even if...
Even if out of this whole country, out of all these numbers, even if we get just a fraction of them, it's mission accomplished.
But be careful, because once you start, how do you stop?
And I think that we're the perfect group of people to do it.
So, Mr.
Tim Ballard, Mr.
Mel Gibson, you may not ever see this, but if you do, for some reason, some way, somehow, thank you.
Thank you for starting the battle.
And I agree, awareness is the first step, maybe one of the strongest steps.
And I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I can speak for a pretty large number of veterans, not everybody.
But I'm gonna assume that there's a large amount of veterans who would agree with me.
That if there's a way for us to be involved to help rescue children, some way, somehow, whatever we can do to help.
Raise the beacon, send smoke signals, put it out on Twitter, something, whatever, however you can do it.
And I think that you'll get a response.
If you haven't seen the movie Sound of Freedom, go see it folks.
It will open your eyes to a whole lot of things and stay tuned because I think that there's going to be more information coming from the powers that be as it relates to this battle.
But it hit me hard and so I thank you for taking the time to listen to what I have to say and contribute if you're going to Thank you very much for joining us.
We've run out of time today.
Again, thank you for being here.
I really appreciate it.
You guys have an amazing week.
Enjoy your evening.
We'll see you next time.
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