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Well, I remember once upon a time that comedians actually used to be funny.
Shows on TV used to actually be funny.
Radio hosts used to actually be funny.
And part of being funny is being not politically correct and not so sensitive to people's feelings.
Well, our guest right now, Chrissy Mayer, actually is funny.
She is funny, and she's one of the last few funny comedians because she doesn't really care what people think and hurting people's feelings.
Chrissy Mayer is a comedian and a host of the Chrissy Mayer podcast.
Welcome to Shots Fired.
How are you?
Hi, Deanna.
It's so nice to be here.
Thank you for having me.
Absolutely.
As you can see by my sign, this is the Chrissy Mayer podcast sign.
Well, I'm on the road today, so I don't have my fancy background.
Your background is more fancier than me.
I know your background is blurred.
Is there like a dead body in the background?
What kind of hotel are we in?
Multiple in the background.
You don't even want to know what's back here.
But I have my dog actually nipping at my toes.
So I used to be a big fan of Seinfeld.
And I actually grew up watching Seinfeld.
And recently I started watching it again because I've watched the reruns like 20 times.
Me too!
Every night we fall asleep to watching Seinfeld.
It's just started over the last few months.
I don't know.
Yeah, I can rewatch it.
I could quote every sentence from it.
But when I rewatched it again recently, I was like, wow, they make a lot of gay jokes, black jokes, bisexual jokes.
I mean, so many different like transgender jokes, so many different jokes that are actually funny.
Racist.
I mean, now they'd be considered racist jokes, but things that were even racist against white people.
I mean, it was just so funny.
And I don't know of another show since Seinfeld died, basically, since their show is dead.
I don't see any other show that's, first of all, as funny.
And secondly, that you can joke about those things.
I mean, it would be...
Seinfeld would be absolutely canceled if they tried to come on now, because half of the time, half of their jokes are hilarious, but they're offensive to most people.
So, like, what happened in the last 20 years?
Funny is still funny.
It's just become culturally in vogue.
I don't know where this started.
I feel like the Obama era is when it started, but it's become popular for people who are insecure or need attention or just are like...
Basically weak.
To be offended is the quickest way to feel important, smart, morally superior, without having to do anything.
It's not a merit-based way to get attention.
You can just say you're offended and then everyone's paying attention to you and bending to your will.
It shapes society, unfortunately, that way.
Seinfeld, I too have more appreciation for Seinfeld as I'm older, because when I was growing up, my sister, my family loved watching Seinfeld, but I didn't really get it.
And now that I'm re-watching it in my 30s, I'm like, this show is incredible.
It's so sharply written.
Larry David, who, you know, went on to do Carb Your Enthusiasm, just like an incredible Yeah.
And there's so many that you miss and you have to watch it over and over again.
And it really is timeless.
And unfortunately, Deanna, like the things that were funny back then.
And when did that show come out?
Like the 90s, early aughts?
Like, I'm not sure when it finished.
I know I'm hitting myself, I think.
But yeah, it was.
We're all in our 20s.
It was all before our time.
The show was funny then.
The show is still funny now.
People still laugh at the same things.
It's just for some reason in our culture it's become popular to Pretend to be offended.
Whether you actually are offended, those people are more vocal.
Or people can pretend to be offended because it's a quick way to get attention.
It's a quick way to get your way, basically.
And for some reason, it's become just a way to virtue signal.
It's really a very selfish thing.
And I notice this sometimes.
I mean, I've been canceled a million times.
But any time I have a tweet or something that people are offended by, it's like...
The person who's offended is actually quite selfish because you're saying that your opinion, your offended opinion, is far more important than everybody else's opinion that, you know, screw the people who enjoyed the joke, screw the people that felt the joke was just neutral, Screw the people that didn't like the joke but just are moving on with their day.
It's just incredibly selfish that these people that are offended have become so loud and so obnoxious that they've actually managed to change the comedy of culture.
And it's at this point where So many comedians, like, we all still laugh at the same things.
We can't pretend that racist jokes, misogynistic jokes, Italian, Hispanic, all of the types of jokes are still just as funny as they were decades ago.
It's just now, it's like you could actually lose your job if the wrong person is offended.
I was talking to Gosh, who was I talking to?
It might have been Jeff Norris.
He was a comedian, like a lot of these comedians that used to perform along in the sort of Catskills.
I forget if it has like a...
It's not the Bible Belt.
That's like down.
But I forget.
There's like a catchy name for comedians that would perform a lot up in the Catskills.
But he was saying he was performing on a cruise ship.
He had like a regular gig on a cruise ship.
And he just told a joke.
one lady was offended, wrote to the cruise ship company, and then he just straight up lost his gig on the cruise ship.
And it's so scary that just one person can have the power to make somebody lose their job, a gig they've had for years that is maybe the bulk of their income.
And I've seen it happen too with comedians and podcasters who make a chunk of their living maybe from YouTube.
They can piss off a group of people from some section of the internet that can all decide to just report your channel, get you demonetized.
So it's insidious.
It happens in many different ways from getting you, you know, canceled from a particular club to a cruise ship.
Like, my buddy Jocelyn Chia, who A couple weeks ago, told a joke about the Malaysian plane that disappeared like 10 years ago.
She was at the Comedy Cellar, which is like, you have to be good to get into the Comedy Cellar.
That's the club that's in New York City.
And not like she's even the first comedian to tell a joke about the Malaysian airline flight disappearing.
You know, it's not even that it's super original or scandalous.
It's just that it caught the people of Malaysia at a certain time.
And I stood up for her and I said, like, don't ever apologize for a joke, Jocelyn.
Like, I'm behind you.
It was funny.
Don't ever bend the knee.
And then people started coming after me.
I think for a good month I had Malaysians...
Coming after me, you know, in my...
And they won't just come after like one tweet or one joke.
They'll find your Instagram profile.
They'll find your Facebook.
They'll find your whatever, your Pinterest board, and they'll litter it with comments.
Well, it's just AstroTurf, too.
I mean, these people are like Soros-generated fake bots.
A lot of them, they're like paid astroturf, offended people that come after you and slide into your DMs.
And they do it to terrorize you and to make you feel like, oh, my God, I need to apologize.
I need to walk back what I said.
I need to not ever do this again.
And it's just a form.
It's just another form of censorship of free speech.
You can't say this, and also you're not allowed to joke about this either to the protected class.
It's an interesting point.
It's hard to know online, like, who am I dealing with bots?
Am I dealing with real people?
Like, you know, I can't even understand what these people are saying.
Is it in Malaysian?
I have no idea.
And it's very interesting because, like, if they can scare comedians into just not making jokes about, let's say, I don't know, Jewish people, then they can definitely scare comedians into not making jokes about the elite, about the president, about the powers that be.
So comedians, I mean, I think it's the job of many in society to call out bullshit and to speak the truth and to speak on behalf of the people.
But I feel like now it's, I feel like journalists have been Have been scared into not speaking the truth.
So it's almost like comedians are kind of like the last group that we kind of all depend on to just keep things real.
A lot of times on stage, and I'm not even in the top.
Twenty percent of comedians, you know what I mean?
Like, there's so many people far more talented than me.
But sometimes I'll just be on stage and I'll just say an honest thing.
I'll just say a feeling or a thought and it'll get a laugh because it's like a pressure release valve.
Like, you can tell where the audience is at.
There's tension.
It's like, okay, yeah, yeah.
Like, not everybody likes Pride.
Okay, yeah, we're glad Pride Month is over.
Just saying, you know, not particularly clever, but sometimes just...
Real.
Saying a true, real thing gets a laugh out of a crowd.
That's why a lot of people, going to a Trump rally is like a comedy show for a lot of people, or a rock concert.
And whether you agree with Trump or like Trump or not, the guy's pretty funny.
And he says things that are real and that are like an annoyance to and a gripe to most people, most Americans, if they're honest.
So when he just says things off the cuff like this, it's not even like he's really trying to be funny.
It's just we're so used to people being fake.
We're so used to people being censored and buttoned up and clutching their pearls that when someone is on a stage and says something that's real, it's funny.
And we need to bring funny and realness back.
Oh, especially our politicians, even like pre-censorship era.
When have we ever had a funny president?
Yeah, I would love to have a funny president.
Yeah.
Joe Biden ain't funny.
I mean, he's funny looking.
He's funny talking and walking.
It is funny how he is still walking around, allowed to be the president, but, like, whatever, yeah, whatever they've got him hyped on, I guess they get...
I don't know if they've got, like, four more years of formaldehyde left at the White House.
Like, I know they found some cocaine the other day.
Like, I'm shocked they didn't find, uh...
Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
I mean, what, this whole cocaine in the White House thing, I mean...
Whose do you think it is, and how do you think it got there?
I think they found it in the White House library, and I was like, well, that makes sense, because how do we expect all of our elected officials to get all their reading done?
Yeah, mountains of reading.
You've seen those bills.
They're hundreds of pages long, so I probably would need cocaine just to get through.
Some of those.
No, it's not even a shock anymore after everything we've heard that's been going on with Hunter Biden for the last few years.
At this point, it feels like you can't even shock the American people.
It's just like, all right, yeah, what else is next?
What else are they going to try to justify?
It came out that the...
You know, the Ashley, the diary was real, the laptop is real, and it's like there's no consequence for any of these people.
They can just do whatever they want, and the American people are just like, okay, well, then screw us.
What can we do?
I mean, I'm convinced that Joe Biden is a CGI at this point, or like a hologram.
I mean, he cannot be real.
This cannot be a real person, a real president.
They've at least got copies of him.
Yeah, they've at least got either a hologram, or clones, or body doubles, for sure.
Yeah, I think that's not even conspiracy.
So what about the vaccine?
I mean, that's another big point of nobody's able to joke about that.
Nobody's able to talk about that.
But at this point, what are your thoughts on the vaccine?
Oh, it is interesting that like, you know, just a few months ago, it seems like everyone was allowed to ask, you know, you go to the doctor, are you vaccinated?
Like, you know, peak, mostly like 2021 was the big year for that.
And then it was mostly kind of trailing off last year in 22.
Any doctor, any place you ever went, everyone was very comfortable asking you your vaccine status.
But when somebody dies, oh no, we can't ask their vaccine status then.
So I just think it was a big learning experience, I think, for our country.
I think for many of us, it was the first time in our lifetime that something like this happened.
And I think we should never forget the way we were treated.
I lost my day job because I wouldn't get vaccinated and for me it was like an easy It was an easy choice because I used to work for a big corporate media company and I was there for six years.
I could tell that when I started versus six years later, my politics had changed drastically and I very much became red-pilled, loved Trump, went from not voting for him the first time to voting for him the second time.
You know, used my vacation days to go to January 6th.
Like, I very much changed where I was at.
Oh, they tried to fire me because I was at January 6th.
I'm like, no, I check.
Like, I used my vacation days.
You signed off on them, buddy.
But then eventually they were able to get me because I wouldn't get vaccinated to go back into the building and I was not going to use...
A fake card, and I know a lot of people were, especially the comedians, were all about using the fake cards.
I just couldn't out of principle.
I remember when de Blasio said, you know, no movies, no cabaret, you have to be vaccinated to go into any building or any comedy club.
I was like, well, I guess I'm done performing comedy in New York City.
Whenever he threw down that mandate, I was like, yeah, I'm not doing it because there's already so much pressure on people to get vaccinated.
I'm not going to be part of that.
I don't think that you should have to get vaccinated just to go out and be entertained for a night.
So it was about almost a year where I didn't perform in New York City.
I just went on the road, you know, Florida, Texas, even, like, I think, Jersey.
I was just performing anywhere else, and then the mandate was lifted, and it's almost like an out.
People like to pretend like it just never happened.
You know, I love that.
And I don't want to hold a grudge on any of these comedy clubs.
A lot of them did what they had to do to stay in business, but there's no apologizing.
Sorry about myocarditis for getting the vaccine.
I told you to get the vaccine in order to be a stand-up comedian, but we're just going to pretend that didn't happen.
It's really insane that a group of people could be so viciously demonized.
And then just a few months later, whoop, nobody cares anymore.
It doesn't matter.
And it's like, what?
We didn't...
Weren't they saying just to round all this up and put us in camps?
And now it's just like, whoop, what vaccine?
Yeah.
But we, yeah, and it's like, oh, sorry about all those heart problems you have and everything else, GI issues, heart attacks.
Oh, oh, yeah, you mentioned that.
They go, well, people have always been getting heart problems since the dawn of time.
People have always been having strokes.
People have always, you know, why would we point the blame at the vaccine?
It's just a coincidence.
That's how it's dropping dead.
We've never seen athletes and football players and basketball players just suddenly drop.
It's don't believe your eyes.
We've always seen that happen.
Don't believe anything.
But I just hope that everybody...
And at this point, I don't...
Whether you're vaccinated or not, I try to not demonize an individual person because a lot of people...
I was really lucky.
Me and my boyfriend were like, okay, one of us is probably going to lose our job over this.
And we just...
I remember at the time, like, we were all talking to our close family, like, we're not getting it, right?
Like, no matter what it is, like, we're going to take care of each other.
Like, we are, none of us are getting this, okay?
And then, I mean, I was kind of, like, happy to lose my job because at this point I was like, oh, clearly, like, my boss wants to fire me for being a January, just for being there, not for getting in trouble or anything.
I could tell that he just, and he didn't like that I was on the Meghan Kelly podcast was talking about how the six was so overblown and not covered accurately.
So I was kind of almost like happy to lose my job.
I was like, okay, I was ready to go full time with like comedy and podcasting anyway.
But I don't, I definitely don't, not everyone was so lucky.
A lot of people took it because they, they have mouths to feed and they don't want that.
They were put in a really impossible situation and that's really criminal.
Is that so many people did not need to take it, had no interest in taking it, but were bullied by their employer to take it.
And then especially if they get any kind of complications, that's so criminal.
Yeah.
So I just hope that we all can collectively remember the lessons of the first pandemic.
So, I mean, like...
Yes.
Not that, of course, nobody wants, but we all know there's going to be more bullshit coming down, especially with the election, you know, the next election coming up.
It's going to be a pandemic part, too.
Yeah, we got to remember, we have to have each other's backs and not be at each other's throats and in whatever way possible, like, join together to fight the powers that be because they will try this on us another way.
Oh, yeah, they will.
What makes you so...
Unafraid and bold and unapologetic of speaking out and still being funny.
I think it's just you can't apologize.
I think I've been canceled so many times that each sort of cancellation means less and less.
And I tell my friends, like, look, if people are coming after you after a tweet, a podcast, a joke, like anything, like just...
Let it ride.
Don't get nervous and apologize.
Just hold out.
Wait a month.
Wait a couple months.
They're just nasty comments.
It'll die down.
It's probably easier to say than it is to do, but I would just say anyone Even if a regular person is putting out a tweet that you think is funny, I would say it's the job of the comedian not to apologize because it's like if we're apologizing and afraid to tell jokes, what does that mean for the average person?
It's literally our job not to apologize.
And I think it's our job to stand up for other comedians who make jokes and come under fire.
I haven't been seeing much of it, which is unfortunate.
They killed Roseanne.
I mean, they literally murdered Roseanne for making a joke.
It was so sick and it was like a satanic ritual how they just killed her from the show.
Physically, metaphysically.
It was nuts.
Yeah, Roseanne did an interview recently with Theo Vaughn and it got completely taken off YouTube.
It was completely pulled down.
So they've decided really not to like Roseanne, but I think she's great.
She's amazing.
She's one of my favorites.
Well, thank you for being so unapologetic and unafraid.
That's what we love on this network.
Where can everybody find you and attend one of your awesome shows?
Oh yeah, I will be in Jersey this Saturday, July 8th.
The venue's called Tiff's Ale House.
It's in Morris Plains, New Jersey.
You can get tickets on my website, chrissimayer.com.
That's C-H-R-I-S-S-I-E-M-A-Y-R.com.
I'll also be in Houston, Texas at The Secret Group, August 11th.
That's a Friday.
You can get tickets there as well.
Follow me on YouTube, Twitter, all social media things.
My Instagram is chrissimayerpod because the first one got deleted.
Yeah.
Over some COVID stuff.
But yeah.
Keep that COVID stuff and the jokes rolling.
Yeah.
Keep it going, guys.
Yeah.
Thank you for setting the standard high for comedy and trying to bring comedy, real comedy and laughter back.
We need more of that as a country and as a planet.
We need to laugh.
Laughing is actually healthy for you.
And we need to not be so afraid and offended.
Good Lord.
So thank you, Chrissy Mayer, for joining Shots Fired.
Stick around.
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Well, what's going on in the news today?
What's going on with AI in the world?
And is it really going to be taking over?
Cocaine at the White House?
Here to talk about this and the hot news of the day and all that and more is Ian Crossland.
Of course, you know him as one of the co-hosts of Timcast IRL. He's an investigative journalist as well.
He's always got the hot scoop of the day.
So Ian, thanks so much for joining Shots Fired.
How are you?
I'm great.
Thanks for having me.
Awesome.
So what's going on with you?
First of all, I heard you talking about, you've been kind of all over the media in the last couple of days, but you were talking about the AI takeover recently and how you're kind of like, you believe that it should be something that We should kind of just let happen because it's going to take, it's going to be here no matter what, just like iPads, just like technology and everything.
But do you think that there's actual evil in letting us kind of stand back and having take over, having this AI and chat GBT sort of replace humans?
That's like saying, it's kind of like asking, was it evil for the people to let the automobile take over all the horseback riders?
And I don't know if it's evil.
AI automation, it's like, it feels inevitable.
And so the fighting it almost, I don't know, man.
I'm concerned about the, you know, Luddites, people that are like, no, new tech, not bad technology.
I want to live off the land.
I want no electricity.
I want...
What concerns you about them?
Because, yeah, there's, you know, there's certain people that want to totally have their kids and everything refrain from any kind of technology, and they want to refrain from technology.
But, and I can see why that, you know, could be a concern.
But don't you think that too much technology is also a problem, too?
And it's kind of replacing our way of interacting with other humans.
Dude, I was just talking with Elijah Schaefer about this.
Okay, I think that maybe humans are diverging into different species, that some humans will maintain what we are homo sapien, but other ones are going to be putting like neural implants in their unborn fetuses when they're like two months old, and the baby's brains will grow around the neural mesh, and they'll be communicating with their parents while they're like two months.
And they'll be a different species, like the kid will have access to the world's knowledge before it's even born.
And then my concern is that that species will think of us or think of the homo sapiens as like dumb animals because they can't read other people's minds.
They can't predict the weather.
They can't see behind them.
Like people have 360 degree visors on so they can see in every direction.
They don't have a built-in GPS in their brain.
Mm-hmm.
It seems like it's gonna happen unless something happens and derails humanity like a solar flare or like a super volcano or some crazy comet or something.
So maybe it's evil to let it happen.
But it's almost like I can't like fight the current.
I mean, maybe you can like the ocean currents.
You ever try and punch the waves when they're coming in?
Yeah, it doesn't really work out so well.
Oh, the waves keep coming.
Right.
But, like, you can divert rivers.
Like, I was like, just go with the current, man.
But, like, well, we can dam and canal and channel rivers and make them flow in different directions.
But they're still always flowing forward.
So, like, we can make sure that the AI has open source software code so that we can at least watch it go crazy.
But, like, I was talking to Zach Voorhees, who was a Google whistleblower who blew his stuff on ML machine learning.
He was on Culture War with Tim and I, Tim Pool.
And he was saying, like, I was like, if artificial intelligence has a software license that says you have to make all your code open and available for all humans to read, could the AI just be like, nah, screw it.
And he was like, yeah, the AI could just ignore its own...
It's kind of, it's scary because I think about, it's kind of like the bioweapon, like the vaccine, maybe.
And, you know, people are going to take it no matter what.
There's a certain population of people that are going to be loving these goggles that they're going to wear everywhere and have virtual reality everywhere.
Being in like a little pod, like they're in their matrix and having virtual reality sex and virtual reality everything, cities.
But there's going to be a lot of people that reject that, right?
And so we can say, hey, let's have like a protest and nobody buy these things.
Nobody buy virtual reality goggles.
Nobody buy all of these things that are going to kind of destroy the population and relationships.
But there's going to be a population that's going to love that and eat it up no matter what, don't you think?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I feel torn within myself because part of it is like, I love the internet.
I love internet video, the ability to watch anything at any moment.
I wouldn't, like would I give it up for, I don't know how it could be better because like back in the day, A lot of people would be like, oh, in the 90s, it was so great.
America was so great before the Iraq War and 9-11.
But it was like, I think it was always been like this world totalitarian military conquest since like the 40s, but we just didn't know.
And now we're aware of it.
It's not like it's worse.
We just know what's been happening.
And I don't know if like, if just like getting a farm and ignoring the world would make it better, or if I've got to actually dive into the machine and become part of the machine to constantly be observing it and making sure it doesn't go crazy.
Yeah.
I kind of err on the side of that.
Like I'd be willing to plug myself in and kind of act as like a warden Yeah, a tech warden.
Because it feels like their end goal, they would love to just kind of have us in these little pods and not interacting with other people, not procreating with other people, being transgendered, and just kind of keeping us separate and away from really progressing or self-actualizing or working or contributing.
And the more that they could keep us separated from reality and from relationships, just like they've done, I think the better off they are.
So that really seems like their ultimate goal.
And people who are buying these virtual reality glasses and getting into the metaverse and stuff, I feel like they're just, they're really eating it right up.
They're walking right into this trap of everyone being isolated eventually.
Have you done VR much?
A couple seconds of it, but I have a visual reaction to it, too.
I mean, I'm like, this feels evil to me.
This feels like they're pushing us, they're walking us into this civilization where we're not interacting with real people.
Yeah, when you're in there for like three hours, at least from my experience, I forgot.
There were periods where I would forget that I was in a virtual reality, and it was like, and when I take it off, it'd be like, yo, what?
Like, my room would be, I'd be in a square room, and I'd be like, you know, I was just in a factory, like, building machines.
What is happening?
And as it gets more realistic and immersive, and it looks like you're in a real movie with real people talking to you.
Right.
Alex Jones was on Patrick Bet-David's podcast a couple weeks ago.
I don't know if you saw the show.
It was pretty cool.
I didn't, but I'm going to watch it now that you say that.
It was great.
It was right when this Russian coup, it looked like there was a coup in Russia.
What's that military contract company?
The Warner Group?
Oh, shoot.
Yeah, those guys.
Yeah, forgot it.
Anyway, they turned on the Capitol.
It looked like they were going to overthrow the Capitol.
And Alex was like, what do you guys think?
Do you think that if someone gets, like, if Putin gets deposed and another, like, pro-Western leader gets put in in Russia, will we be better off?
And no one really had an answer.
I thought it would just, it would move us towards the end of war and towards totalitarian technocratic control.
And I think that's the whole putting people in pods concept is they don't want us fighting.
They don't want us accidentally blowing up cities Or the world.
They'd rather have us sedated in an observable machine so they can make sure that our thoughts aren't getting a little too crazy.
But the problem is if the power goes out, people will riot and explode and go crazy.
So I don't know if this passivity And they might build systems where they can tap the vibration of reality for electricity so that there's a permanent electrical field so that the power can't get turned off.
That might, like solid state electron, that might be real.
But I can't imagine that preventing humanity from...
I don't know, man.
Maybe like space...
Space exploration, I used to think we'd go flying across the galaxy in our bodies, but I think we're gonna send drones and, like, surrogate robots that we virtual perceive.
Like, we go into the robot's perception, because humans can't really feasibly live in outer space for very long on a spaceship alone.
That'd be horrible and isolating.
So maybe it's all connected to the expansion of the consciousness and humanity is tapping into this machine.
Right.
I mean, I think the goal is transgenders and transhumanism.
Like they want, they would be happy if everyone was just a transgender and or a transhuman and then it's like changing the species.
You think so?
Yeah, I think when someone, that's a good point.
If someone's hurting or they don't really know who they are or they're not comfortable with who they are, that it is the escape into another world.
It could become optimal or could feel good or feel less bad.
In fact, I find a lot of times if I fall into video game habits, it's because I'm not actuating myself in space reality.
As soon as I start doing great things in this reality, like making TV shows or music or entertaining or spending time with my family or whatever, like my wife or my girlfriend, the I'm less inclined to go towards the machine.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
And what I'm worried about is the introduction of these, like, glasses, these, like, you know, virtual reality goggles in cities with children because they are still learning what is the world around them anyways.
So when you introduce something that's a fake world but it looks and seems and feels more appealing because they get toys right away or they get Candy right away or they get, you know, their immediate reward right away.
That I just seem like it seems like almost like introducing a porn addiction to a five year old.
It's like introducing this new virtual reality that they can have at any time before they even really understand what the world, how great the world can be without that.
Yeah, and something in virtual reality is there's no fatigue.
There's no gravity.
There's no exhaustion.
You can run forever in those machines.
That's what my friends in the military was saying.
I was like, what's the biggest difference between these video game Call of Duty and how tired you get when you walk and run and carrying 90 pounds?
So kids, they need to learn that stress of how painful it is to move around and exist in this environment.
And that's lost in the machine.
I think, like, if I have kids, when I plan on having kids, I don't want to give them access to the computer at all.
At all.
I don't even want them to see or hear video until they're, like, six months old.
I don't even want them to hear it in the other room playing.
But then I'm like, what, do I just not play music for my kids?
That's crazy.
I want them to listen to music while they're in the womb.
Yeah.
I'm like, and I... So maybe it's not the digital that's bad, it's just like the content itself maybe.
Yeah, I think so.
And then having easy access to it, you know, because it just seems like you're introducing technology when, hey, kids were 50 years before, they had no technology, they had no TVs, no iPhones, and they thrived.
They played outside with friends.
They did cool stuff.
They built tree forts and everything, and they thrived.
And now what about our kids now?
I mean, what is the generation now?
They're not really thriving.
They're not really, I guess it depends on what your definition of a thriving is, but I don't see thriving as somebody who's antisocial, stuck to technology, addicted to porn, addicted to video games.
You know, I wouldn't consider that thriving.
I think a lot of potential architects are getting caught up in Minecraft and building gigantic megaliths in a video game, and they're not necessarily going to architecture school or studying blueprints and physics and things.
Maybe.
But in another realm, maybe they're becoming better architects by understanding structure at an early age with Minecraft, and you can use it as a tool, I think.
I guess It's like a springboard.
If you go up on a diving board, but you refuse to get off the diving board, then you haven't really used it for its proper purpose.
These games are like training tools.
They build your confidence because you're succeeding in tasks, but then you've got to put the game down and apply it to reality and other humans.
Like, when we were kids, dude, we would, like, go outside in the backyard and hang out in a clubhouse, or, like, when I was really little, like, five or six, I remember my mom would be watching TV in one room, but it would be a show I wasn't allowed to watch, like, Law& Order, because I was too young.
She'd be like, no, you have to stay in the other room, and I'd be just drawing, or, like, building blocks.
Yeah.
And it was so good.
I have these great memories of it.
Exactly.
Like, the warmth of my mother being right nearby, the kind of the warm, ambient glow of the television and Yeah.
And doing cool stuff with neighbors and everything.
Now it's like there's sex offenders and pedophiles everywhere.
Yeah, we go to the park alone.
There's a park around the corner from my house.
And I'd like ride my bike over there when I was like 9 or 11, swing on the swings and be home by 5 o'clock.
I don't know, man.
What are your plans?
Like, how do you plan on navigating children?
Well, I mean, to me, I have the reaction of trying to shelter them, you know, sheltering them from public schools, sheltering them from technology, sheltering them from creepy, creepy indoctrination and sex offender type people.
I just want to shelter them.
But I know that they have to have some sort of Interaction with those things or else they're going to grow up like 21 years old and not know how to do anything.
But I really want, like I want to have my values instilled in them the strongest until they're sort of, I don't know, old enough to really understand the difference that these, hey, these values are probably going to hurt you.
They're going to derail you.
And you're going to experience them sometimes from outside influences, but you're not going to, like this is not something that a road that you want to go down.
But then there's the problem of usually when parents tell you something you shouldn't do, kids want to do the opposite of that.
So it's tough to parent these days because back in the day, most of America had the same values or they had similar values.
And most of the media, everything that they experienced was reinforcing those more traditional values.
And now everything's gone haywire.
So it's when you have all these Combinations of different values, especially ones you don't agree with, and especially the ones that are pushing on the media for the most part, transgenderism and indoctrination and everything, that's where you come up with a confused kid, and it's harder to raise kids.
Like, I know if a kid, if my kid was like, saw me talking to my phone, like right now I'm doing this interview on a phone, they would be immensely curious about, what is it?
I want it.
I want to do that.
I want to do what daddy's doing.
I want to be like my dad.
He's on the computer.
I want to be on the computer.
And I work online.
My job is a TV show on the internet.
I couldn't be doing it without this awesome.
But like, it's like, just down a side road is porn.
Yeah, exactly.
You can learn about koalas and the mating habits of, like, you know, the red-nosed-tailed dove or whatever.
Or you can see some horrific porn.
And that's not even, like, with these crazy Onion Router Darknet crap.
Like, I've never even...
I don't go down those roads, but, like, just the basic roads are, like, you know, Pornhub.
What the heck?
It's getting banned in some states, but I don't know if that's even...
Like, sex ed needs to be reimagined.
If the average age of a kid that sees porn is 9, that's just mind-blowing if that number is real.
And I don't know if that means you need to talk to kids about it.
I've seen numbers in that.
So do you need to tell your kids at the age of 6, at the age of 7, when they're like, I don't even know what that means.
And you're like, ah.
Just in case.
Yeah.
And it's kind of like, how do you tell them, hey, this is my job.
I'm at a computer, staring at a computer all day long, but you're not allowed to do that.
But Daddy's doing it because that's his job, but you're not allowed to do that.
It's just so hard.
And back in the day, we didn't have to worry about that.
I mean, Daddy's doing usually interesting, like, outdoor, physical labor type of things.
Yeah, there was no parent that had a job of watching TV. And there was no, or playing video games.
It was like, no, those were all leisure activities.
And they were a couple hours a day.
That was my, kind of our regiment.
And now my entire, not my entire, but a lot of my job is on these fucking machines, man.
Right, these machines.
And now ChatGPT is going to take over.
Human.
So it's just, yeah, it's like, and then humans are going to be out of jobs.
It's all going, it's all going to hell in a handbasket.
Maybe it's not.
Oh, what were you saying?
Oh, go on.
I wanted to get your final thoughts on AI before we change the topic.
Well, yeah, maybe it's not worth fighting because it's going to happen and you might as well have the most adept children that know how to use it better than anyone else.
They've been in the metaverse their whole life.
They understand it better than anyone.
And they understand base reality because you're such a good parent that you've instilled morals in them.
They're able to bring those morals into the machine and diasporate them to the human consciousness.
But then the other part is like, well, maybe resisting is important.
Like, the United States was a form of resistance.
It only came out because people were resisting tyrannical rule.
Maybe both directions could produce positive outcomes.
I always feel bad for, like, the character that spends their entire existence resisting the inevitable, and then at the end it just happens anyway, and they're like...
You've been rooting for them the whole time and like why they could have been like one of the best of the new regime if they if they jujitsu'd it early on.
Yeah.
Instead of like head in the sand.
Final thoughts are undetermined.
I have no idea what else.
Determined.
I guess we're going to see what happens regardless.
This tidal wave is coming of technology.
So what are your thoughts on Trump versus JFK, RFK and JFK? Trump And DeSantis and RFK. What are your thoughts going into this right now, as they stand right now?
I really like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I like him a lot.
And I think Bobby Kennedy, his dad, was like, I don't know if this is true, but he's like the reason the civil rights movement happened, maybe.
I mean, it was a lot of people doing a lot of things, but he was in what is the Attorney General at the time, I think, under John F. Kennedy.
And he like marched with people and like showed the world that the authoritative power supports desegregation and the civil rights.
Bobby Kennedy was, like, one of the greatest Americans to ever live.
Unfortunately, he was killed as he was running for president.
And I think his son seems to have carried a lot of that on.
He talks openly about it, a lot of that stuff.
And I love that he openly criticizes the medical-industrial complex.
That's kind of my...
I'm a little concerned with AI, but because it's so inevitable, I don't worry as much about that as I do about the pharmacological system that's trying to profit off of selling people drugs.
Good God, the damage that it's done to children.
The Adderall, like kids on amphetamines at 13 are like, you wonder why the school shootings are happening.
And it always points me towards pharmaceuticals, psychoactives, these crazy, powerful drugs.
Unexplored psychoactives that are in, like, 16-year-olds are getting persecuted.
So that Bobby has my vote in full attention.
Donald and DeSantis are interesting.
Donald Trump, I mean...
I like, his personality's pretty cool when you talk to, I haven't really talked to him one-on-one, but, like, I think he's personable.
I don't know, he's not really much of a, like, he's not really into the, he's less into the politics and more into the people.
I don't know, I don't like the whole, I'm gonna come back and fire everybody, because it's like, well, you just showed everybody your hand, so they're not gonna let you back in.
Right.
If they do let you back in, it's because they want to trap you and off you, so, like, You shouldn't have told them that you're going to fire them all.
You should have weaseled your way back in and then fired them all if you're going to do it.
But also, he had a lot of opportunities to fire people when he was the president, and he didn't.
And in fact, he kept really bad people in place, and he did fire people that should have not been fired.
So what's going to change now?
And he's making all the same promises he did back in 2015, but what's going to change now when he literally had the presidency and he didn't do those things?
That's That is my red flag about him right now.
Yeah, I 100% agree.
The Drain the Swamp, the Anthony Fauci, sitting number two to Anthony Fauci.
He basically let Anthony Fauci decide to shut the country down.
It seemed like.
Or somebody was making Trump the hypochondriac.
I don't want to insult the guy, but his germy fear is like, why?
What's that?
Yeah, it was kind of like they knew, because he's a self-proclaimed germaphobe.
And it's almost like they knew that, and that was their weakness.
Oh, we're going to get him.
He's a germaphobe.
He's going to be really afraid of COVID. And do everything that we ask him to do, we tell him to do.
And it did feel like he kind of, once COVID hit, he resisted for a few months.
And then it seemed like he kind of just handed the keys over to Anthony Fauci and them to just run the country after that.
There wasn't much.
It was disgusting.
Yeah, 2020 was such a waste.
And dude, four, it was four mega corporations got no bid contracts to sell us The only medicines that they wanted people to take were like it should have been a global decentralized effort to cure that thing immediately with millions of different possible topics like medicines and and when one shows efficacy everyone jumps on it to check it out and like eradicate the thing instantly not this like sell drugs sell drugs sell drugs thing that's it just this that is very disconcerting and Rhonda Santa smashed that into the ground in
Florida so I love that about him.
I love that about him.
Like, I have so much respect for that guy.
I don't know him either, personally.
Hopefully I'll get a chance to talk to him soon, because I want to get through to the—I think if I can see the real guy, just the normal Ron, and, like, other people see who he is, it'll be way easier to get behind him politically.
Yeah.
As opposed to just seeing him on the podium repeating lines off a script.
I don't want to—you know, I'm kind of done with that era.
Yeah, I know, me too.
I want, like, Trump was really great, especially back in the day.
He's good at rallies, and he's good at kind of flying off the cuff and speaking what it feels like authentically.
Ron DeSantis, I like a lot of his policies and a lot of his wins.
If he understood the power of kind of that It's a charismatic it factor, like Trump does.
I mean, Trump knows how to brand himself with the music and catchphrases and everything, whereas Ron DeSantis is a little scripty, a little robotic.
And it shouldn't matter, but it does matter to a lot of people.
They're like, there's just something about Ron that I don't like that feels too scripted.
And I feel like if he wants to win a lot more people over, he's got to recognize that power of captivating people with your energy instead of feeling like you're reading from a script.
Oh yeah.
It used to be a lot of policy, like in 1890, 1914, before even radio, there was like, you didn't even know what the guy's voice sounded like.
He'd go city to city and some people would see him on his campaign, but it would be in the newspaper.
You'd read about what he did or what he said.
So it didn't matter their charisma, really.
It just mattered what they had done.
Now it's all, with internet video, who's making me laugh?
Who do I want to be in the presence of?
Who puts me at ease?
Right.
And we need to see that out of Ronnie.
It is, but at the end of the day, America, our country isn't a TV show.
You know, it isn't The Apprentice.
It is a real serious situation where we have to have real wins.
And I don't know about you, but I'm tired of losing.
I want to start winning.
And what Ron DeSantis has done is he has a proven track record of winning, which...
You know, again, if people understand we need to actually start winning as a country, we need to get behind someone who has a proven track record of winning.
And, you know, he prevented a stolen election in Florida.
He's had so many real wins with the LGBTQ movement and children indoctrination and with COVID that people should pay attention to also.
And that deserves it.
I don't know what a solution would be, what a win would look like.
Probably incremental.
The way that the pharmaceutical industry is interwoven with the food industry, with Monsanto, genetic modification, food that makes people really ill, like a lot of wheat sprayed with glyphosate that can cause endocrine disruption or Whatever, they'll use glyphosate to desiccate the wheat so they'll dry it out with glyphosate before they harvest it.
So it's like really like a lot of pesticide, herbicide in that.
And then sugar, the sugar industry like makes people swell.
You know, sugar makes people swell up and then they sell them a pharma drug to make the swelling go down.
But it has like a side effect of maybe you need then a blood thinner and then watch out for clots.
So we need to get you heart medicine like, oh, now don't eat broccoli because that might interfere.
You're like, what?
The health industry is telling me not to eat one of the healthiest foods on earth because it might interfere with their pharma cocktail.
I don't know how to unweave it other than a great reset.
And what I mean by that is like a smashing of everything and like a stone age, which is not ideal.
That'd be worse than trying to pick it apart.
Yeah.
Like an American president gets into like, we're not doing business with Monsanto or Bayer ever again, but that would just annihilate the economy.
So I don't know.
What were you going to say?
Oh, no, just that, I mean, yeah, I mean, those who swing hard against big pharma is going to have my support, that's for sure.
And that's what I like about Kennedy also.
And I think Trump is going to swing harder.
I know.
I wish he had.
He could have.
He could have.
I'll be honest, I don't have any faith in him because of that.
It was a year long of Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, Fauci, and everyone was like, what are you doing, dude?
People are losing their career.
Their businesses are going out of business because it's like COVID. I got COVID. It was pretty bad.
It felt like robots were inside me, probably psychosomatic, but it felt crazy.
It was like a nanomachine doing it to my back.
I don't know what it was, but it was probably just COVID virus.
Then it went away.
And I felt better.
And what are we...
Just the devastation of Earth's economy under the watchful eye of Donald Trump.
And the whole Obama birth certificate crap, too, made me think.
In 2012, I was like, who is this joker?
Why is he taking our eyes away from healing the planet, reducing carbon, turning carbon into graphene?
Let's heal the...
The coral reefs.
Let's regrow the plankton population with iron fertilization in the oceans.
Let's regrow.
Let's go space travel.
Instead, he's talking about Obama's...
There's some dumb story about this guy's birth certificate.
I'm like, he's an entertainer.
He's just trying to snow people into...
I thought he was just joking about being president.
I don't hate the guy, but he failed me in a big way.
I thought maybe he would push back against pharma.
Vivek Ramaswamy I like that guy a lot.
You know him?
Yeah, he sounds interesting.
He definitely seems interesting.
He seems like he's a fighter.
He's like real pushes against ESG, which is important.
It's part of this totalitarian takeover where they can shut off your bank account if they have control of it.
And he's like moving to divest into different indexes so that instead of investing in companies like BlackRock, they will put it into movements of like, we're going to make sure everyone has this different skin color here today.
He's like, we're putting our money into local indexes where we can fund processes that aren't racist.
Right.
Well, yeah, exactly.
I mean, because ESG is just a social credit score for us, for companies.
It's like if you don't cooperate with these hiring of diversity and women and gay people and whatever, then you will get your accounts frozen, your bank accounts frozen.
You won't be able to spend money.
The company is not going to be able to compete anymore.
It's all totalitarianism.
It's all about control.
And if they can shut people's access off to the internet, and they're hooked on the internet, then they've basically got slaves that will fight for them.
I really fear mercenaries.
You saw with that Wagner Group in Russia, that's their mercenary group.
A powerful mercenary company can overthrow a government.
And so we got to be careful of giving private corporations too much power and control.
Amazon controls so much of the shipping.
If they wanted to just go rogue and hire a bunch of armed guards, they could do an insurrection.
Yeah, they could.
They literally could.
They have a huge army.
And shut off access to food.
Yeah.
I order everything off Amazon.
I love the function of Amazon, but the idea that it's all a centralized company is terrifying.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, Ian, we are, unfortunately, we could talk all day, but we're running out of time.
Any last words on these topics or anything else?
And, of course, where can people find you in your show?
Yes.
Do 20 to 100 pushups a day.
Breathe fresh air.
Put your bare feet in the grass.
And point your face towards the sun with your eyes closed.
Let yourself sneeze a few times, maybe.
Get that funk out of you.
Working out has been life-changing.
It is life-changing.
Yeah.
Sitting in a crumpled fetal position worrying about the future is not the way to live.
No.
You know, opening up your chest and your heart.
You see the good in the bad.
The yin and the yang.
You see the white dot inside the black mound when you're aware and awake.
So do that.
I think that'd be very good for you.
And you can find me at Ian Crossland.
I mean, I'm talking to everybody.
Maybe you already do that.
I don't know.
At Ian Crossland on the internet.
I'll be at TimCast IRL Monday through Friday on YouTube at 8 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time is the show that I do with Tim Pool.
And anywhere else you want to find me, hit me up on Twitter, Mines, Facebook, Instagram, things like that.
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