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July 8, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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JESUS. GUNS. AND BABIES. w/ Dr. Kandiss Taylor ft. Senator Wendy Rogers
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They have no one to fight for them.
I fight for them.
So when he comes after me, he's coming after my people.
Hey everybody, welcome to Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
I'm your host, Dr.
Candice Taylor, and I have a really, really special guest today that you love already.
You're going to be so excited, I can't wait to introduce her.
But I'm going to start with a scripture, John 15, 13.
I picked it just for her.
Greater love has no one than this, to lay down one's life for one's friends.
Because she has been in the military, and she is a state senator from Arizona.
So I will welcome Ms.
Wendy Rogers.
Hey Candace, happy Independence Day from Flagstaff, Arizona.
Yes, I'm so glad to have you, Wendy.
It's awesome.
My people, we have, I don't know, 100,000 views a week, but they love you.
And so they're going to be so thrilled to have you.
And I'm so excited because we're going to get to know each other better today.
I'm going to get to know things about you I haven't heard before in other interviews.
And so I'm so excited.
So can we start just...
If you will, telling us what made you a patriot, kind of a little bit about your background with your family.
If your parents were conservatives, will you just start there for us?
Sure.
Well, I come from a pretty traditional military family.
I'm a fifth-generation career military officer, which is pretty unusual.
And our son, my husband and I, have been married 45 years.
We both served 20-year careers ourselves in the Air Force.
And our son, George, who turns 35 tomorrow, day after tomorrow, I was a Marine officer, and so he was the sixth generation in my family to serve.
I never really thought there was anything unique about it growing up.
My dad retired from the Army when I was about 11 or 12 and then moved to Michigan, and I went to junior high and high school and college in Michigan.
And so it didn't feel like it was anything different.
You've always been a patriot.
It's just who you are.
Well, it's my family.
We're a family of faith.
And when I was growing up, I mean, I was among other military families, so that didn't seem unusual.
We normally lived on a military installation.
And then when I served, we often would live off the base.
And in fact, in the 20 years that I had of active duty, we served, my husband and I, Eight of those years overseas, plus arguably I was gone a lot flying as a pilot in the Air Force, one of the first women pilots, and I was flying overseas.
So I would say that probably added up to a few years as well.
So probably half of my 20 years I was overseas.
Wow.
My daughter's gonna love this because she loves Top Gun and she's like, Mama, I could do one of those fighters.
I'm like, yeah, you probably could do that.
I can't.
I hate heights.
So, it's awesome.
We went to New York this week and we went to a wax museum and she got to see Amelia Earhart and she was just like, she loves history.
So, she's going to love this interview.
That's just, that's amazing.
That's an interesting coincidence.
Amelia Earhart and I share the same birthday, 24th of July.
Plus, she was also a social worker before she became a pilot, as was I. Really?
I didn't know you had a background in counseling, too.
That's awesome.
Yeah, I have a master's degree from the University of Alabama, and I went into the Air Force as a clinical psychiatric social worker.
I worked in mental health for three years, and then I applied to pilot training.
I'm pretty sure I was the only shrink pilot that the Air Force had.
See, I knew I liked you, so we had that commonality, too.
Maybe that's why, because the reason why I chose that scripture is, yes, because you fought for our country, but because when I met you the first time in person, I mean, I followed you and all that, and we had mutual friends, but when I met you, the thing that stuck out with me was you saying, I'm a connector, and I watched you introduce them.
Do you know this person?
Do you know this person?
And you are a connector.
And that's kind of who you are, which goes back to counseling.
I'm a fixer.
You know, we're fixers by nature.
So I think that that's just who you are.
So can you talk a little bit about that, Wendy?
Because I know that that's kind of in you to make connections.
And I think that's so important right now in our country because people are so divided.
Well, it's an interesting sort of facet that one can expand on because I have a smartphone and there's a joke among those who know me in Arizona that once you get in Wendy's smartphone, you can't escape her.
And so just yesterday I was at a church service and we had a We're good to go.
Maybe.
But of course, it was at church, so it was safe.
And I said, yes.
He said, well, I follow you and so forth.
Anyway, so we chatted and then I got his information and I plugged him into a volunteer activist group here in Flagstaff.
Flagstaff's notably kind of a left-leaning town because of Northern Arizona University.
And so there is a conservative coalition that has banded together.
So anyway, I got him plugged into that.
And again, that was just me taking his photo.
If you look on my Twitter, you'll see a post from yesterday from that church service.
And you'll see him in that picture of, And I tagged him.
And I think eight minutes into the Twitter post, I ran over to him and his wife as we were all still eating and mingling.
And I said, look, this has already had 1,200 views.
Your Twitter handle will now have all this exposure.
And he was thrilled.
But that's...
My honor to do that.
That's my honor to connect to someone who is in the movement, who's in the cause, and weave all those strands together.
That's right.
And it takes us all.
I feel like God, we talk about my volunteers.
I told you earlier before we got on, we're trying to get paper ballots in Georgia.
And so we're trying to use our platforms of people who are patriots to help us get the word out.
And they're like, well, do you mind putting this on your platform?
No, this isn't my platform.
This is God's platform.
God did this.
And we use it for his glory.
And we're going to get our country back.
And we have to secure voting or we don't have a nation.
So I want to hear about what you're doing in Arizona because you and I did mention that briefly.
And you said you would explain that because you have patriots in your legislation in Arizona.
And I know you have people like that.
You know, I just got elected, we need to, the first district chair of 15 counties in Georgia, and I did this so I could really start from the bottom up, locally, fixing a foundation that's not right in Georgia.
And I'm learning that I'm fighting people who call themselves Republicans who are not patriots.
They are establishment-minded.
They worship these politicians who are selected.
They didn't actually win.
And I'm fighting them.
And I'm like, what is going on?
So we think we're fighting the Democrats, but we're really fighting these people in our own party.
And so I know that Arizona has them too.
I'm not saying y'all don't, but y'all do have a lot of patriots in your legislator.
So talk about what you're doing there to go to secure elections.
Sure.
We have a Senate and a House in the Arizona legislature.
I'm in the Senate.
We have 16 Republicans, 14 Democrats in the Arizona Senate.
We have, I think, 31 Republicans, 29 Democrats in the Arizona House.
So, contrary to what you might think, thinking Arizona's completely red, we're sort of at a real tipping point and could lose the legislature if we're not careful.
Also, of course, you know that Carrie Lake had the election stolen from her.
I'm chairman of the Elections Committee in the Arizona Senate, so I've been privy to a lot of presentations, most notably by an organization called We the People Arizona Alliance, which is this fantastic group of very Well-trained researchers who have dug into all this data from Maricopa County.
And it has shown on many levels where a lot of the fraud and cheating have occurred.
The signature verifications were just clicked through.
They really weren't done in depth.
The chain of custody on Election Day was in question for 200,000 ballots.
And of course, Cary Lake lost by What, I think, 17,000 votes or something.
So it was clearly stolen.
And we have to press and continue to expose that.
Now, you might say, well, how much of that has been exposed?
A lot has been exposed, but more truth comes out by the day.
And I was always sort of questioning, how can that be still happening?
It's very complex.
There are a lot of data sets that take...
Experts to dive into to analyze.
And so we, backing up to January, aired a lot of this evidence in my committee, which was then used in Carrie Lake's lawsuit.
Where is that now?
That's at an appeal level now.
At the state court system, and it'll go back to the Arizona Supreme Court and likely to the United States Supreme Court, which is where I think ultimate justice will be served.
There's also a lawsuit against Kerry separately by the county recorder, Stephen Richer, and that is a separate sort of animal, but It will actually be an interesting back and forth because a lot of evidence can be presented in that area.
Discovery, exactly.
So there is that.
Now, there is Abe Hamaday, who ran for attorney general.
He had a lawsuit against the woman who supposedly beat him by 200 votes only.
200 votes out of hundreds of thousands.
And he has asked for a retrial of that because a lot of evidence was held back by Hobbs and the counties during the original trial he had.
So this is a situation where He has asked for a retrial, and we are waiting with bated breath as to whether or not there will be a retrial.
We hope that there will be, and if and when there is, likely it will prevail for him.
If we can get him into the Attorney General's slot for Arizona, that is a huge tipping point because he can assert the rule of law in Arizona.
Right now, We're still in session.
We the legislature.
And you say, wait, I thought Arizona was a part-time legislature.
It is.
But we are still in session for the not stated but obvious reason that the occupant of the governor's seat is trying to do executive orders and run roughshod over the state.
So there is a check and balance absolutely happening with the legislative branch vis-a-vis the executive branch.
And this is just so important for people to understand.
The legislative branch By design is the strongest of the three branches of government.
But it's the hardest to corral all of the people in the legislative branch.
And so that's why when it is cohesive, when it is functioning well, like a well-oiled machine, it can be and is, in our case, very potent right now to be the sort of adult in the room in Arizona.
Yeah, the catalyst for change, right?
That's what y'all are doing.
I'm so thankful.
I just want to tell you, thank you from everybody in this country that you hold a seat in a very important state, key state, in a very important seat, and you aren't scared to say the truth.
You know, just the truth, Wendy, like people are scared to say the things you just said in Georgia.
Even though I have a couple House members that I know feel this way in Georgia about our own state, they won't say it.
They're scared.
And so we've got to quit being scared.
You know, you're representing the people that elected you, your constituents, and you're not scared.
And I'm so thankful because you are in a diamond in the rough.
Well, I have had death threats.
In fact, a year ago, tomorrow, July 4th, Over in Show Low, Arizona, which is where I will be headed this afternoon to get ready for tomorrow's parade, which is the largest in Arizona.
And incidentally, as Asai mentioned, the name Show Low, two words, is named after a poker hand that was played between two huge landowners.
And they decided one would give his land to the other, dependent on the outcome of a game of cards.
And I think this was in the 1870s or 1880s, if you look it up.
And these two men agreed to play this hand of cards.
And whoever showed low, whoever chose the lower card, won the other man's land.
And so the one turned up.
This is so Arizona-esque.
The one turned up.
The Deuce of Clubs, and thereby won the other man's land.
And so the main drag through Show Low is called Deuce of Clubs, and it's a pretty good-sized town, and it also has the Trump Store.
And the Trump store is owned by Steve and Karen Slayton, dear friends of mine.
Steve is actually running for the state house in my district, which is a huge expanse of a district that spans a five-hour drive from Flagstaff nearly to Tucson.
Wow.
And I'll be with them tonight and tomorrow.
But what happened last year, and this is illustrative of what it takes, I guess, to stand firm.
I was there last year.
We did the parade.
Eli Crane, our congressman, then candidate, now our great congressman, Navy SEAL, a very conservative guy who stood up to the vote against the vote for McCarthy till the bitter end.
He and I were in the parade together.
We went to the Trump store to meet with voters and later, an hour or two later, there was noticed an email that had come across the website at the Trump store saying that this perpetrator was next door at Sonic Burger there was noticed an email that had come across the website at the Trump store saying that this perpetrator was next door at Sonic Burger and supposedly had Wendy Rogers in his crosshairs and was going to blow my bleepity,
So I was evacuated out.
I came back to Flagstaff.
And it took six weeks for the cyber forensic experts in Phoenix, who are national, state, and local cyber forensic experts, to determine who he was behind the screen.
And it turned out he was a middle school professor.
Music teacher from Tucson vacationing with his mother in northern Arizona near where we were.
And so they arrested him in Tucson.
The woke county attorney down there let him out after a week.
He was re-grand juried up in northern Arizona because the Slatons and I pressed for that.
And the sheriff was very willing.
He's a Democrat, but he's a rural Democrat sheriff, great sheriff up there, Sheriff David Klaus.
And he got all that put together.
Long story short, the sentencing trial was a month ago.
Almost a year later, and I was told by the court, Senator, if you're to come to one proceeding, it would be that, so that you could tell the judge what you think his sentence should be.
So I went over there from Flagstaff, two-hour drive, and met with the court advocate and the county attorney in the hallway.
And they said, what say you in terms of what you want his sentence to be before we go into the courtroom?
And I said, what's the range of possibility?
And they said, probation to two and a half years in prison.
I said, two and a half years in prison.
And they said, okay, because the Slatons are inside already, and that's what they had said also.
We went in, and Steve Slaton had a prepared statement.
Karen, who's all of 115 pounds soaking wet, said to the judge, I'd like to read the offending message that was sent.
Oh, nice.
And she said, I do not want to have expletives deleted.
And the judge said, okay.
So she read it.
And of course, it was heinous, threatening, profane, and very disturbing.
Oh, and more.
And so she read it, and it was very dramatic.
I tend to distance myself and sort of tune out things like that.
So I had forgotten it.
Maybe hadn't even known what some of the wording was.
I'm sure the C word, I get that used a lot on me.
They love that word.
I don't know why.
Right.
It's gross.
So anyway, it was my turn to talk to the judge.
I stood up and I said, I knew he was ex-military.
I asked that in the hallway.
He's a Marine.
I said, Judge, you and I took the oath of office to support and defend the Constitution.
That's a lifetime oath.
I said, it's certainly disturbing what this threat was to me, to my husband, to our grandchildren, to our children, to my colleagues at the Capitol.
I said, but moreover, I represent all these little hardscrabble towns.
And they span, you know, four counties.
And I named them all.
I mean, I represent like 20 little towns.
And I said, I said, I'm the one who fights for them.
They have no one to fight for them.
I fight for them.
So when he comes after me, he's coming after my people.
And that's what I have to say about it.
And he's coming after our constitutional Republican way of life.
And I said, and he was a teacher?
And he went through background checks and fingerprint checks and everything?
That's all I have to say about it.
And I sat down.
And so each of the lawyers spoke.
And then the judge said, I started giving his verdict, and I thought, you know, his lawyer said it was a first-time offense, and he was remorseful, and here are all these character reference letters saying he's actually really a good guy.
This was just a one-off situation, and he's had questions now about his faith and whether or not he's right in the eyes of God, and oh my gosh, all this.
And then he spoke, the defendant, And it was all about him and how he's realizing this and this for himself.
I just wanted to sort of throw up.
But anyway, then the judge began.
And he said, I appreciate all of this input.
I appreciate the character letters of reference.
I appreciate all that and that you're contrite.
And I do believe you're remorseful.
Of course you are because you got caught.
But anyway, and I'm thinking, oh no, he's going to let him off.
And then he says, but there are three things.
Number one, you cost the state of Arizona enormous sums of money to find out who you were and so forth.
Number two, he threatened the use of an AR-15, which is an extremely dangerous weapon, which is really rich because the left hates the AR-15.
Right.
And number three, he threatened violent death.
So we're not doing probation.
You're going to prison for two and a half years.
And I gripped Karen's hand and I was thinking, Justice.
Not congratulations, but justice.
And so, sorry for the truck in the background here, but this is our neighborhood.
An example, Wendy, set for other psychos who think that they can take the law into their own hands and they can muzzle us because that's the problem.
And when I said to you, thank you for what you do, it's because political correctness has about killed our country.
Ben Carson said that.
I got my doctorate about eight years ago, my PhD, and Ben Carson was the speaker.
That's why I went to politics, because he said, if we don't get involved, we're going to lose our country.
The national debt and political correctness, those are the two things.
What's killing us?
The national debt and political correctness.
So thank the Lord that that didn't work this time.
Because they have to have an example set.
And you're right.
They are Jesus guns and babies.
I get every single day guns, guns, ARs.
And I think, yeah, well, when y'all came and swatted my house and you threatened to kill me and you said that I had killed my husband and I have two ARs in my bedroom.
And if you had come at my stairs, I would have been forced to use my ARs to protect my home.
They don't care about that.
They don't care.
They want to use it against us when it's convenient.
Right.
And so a similar, well, one little P.S., So the judge said to the defendant, before I enumerate all these little administrative items I have to tick off before I remand you to the Department of Corrections, is there anyone you want to give a hug to here in the courtroom before you're taken away?
And he stood up and he said, well, my mom and my brother aren't here, but could I phone them?
And the judge goes, you can get that from jail.
I love it.
But this other thing happened, which speaks to what you just said.
I'll try to summarize it quickly.
There is a woke Capitol Times reporter who covers the Arizona Senate.
She's 24.
She's entitled East Coast Education.
Parents have spoiled her.
And she's very impudent and arrogant and, you know, my stuff doesn't stink kind of attitude.
It just permeates.
And so last year, she came to my desk on the floor of the Senate.
After the gavel drops, they can approach us to ask questions, unless we say no, which I eventually did.
And she was very rude, and I told the staff, I'm not talking to her.
She's rude.
Tell her to quit approaching me.
So that...
And I tweeted about it, and I had forgotten that I had tweeted about it, but it's on record that way.
And then a year later, this past February, I think, she came to me again and asked me a very insulting question, asked if I took bribes, you know?
I mean, you're asking a decorated military operational pilot if I took bribes?
It was beyond pale.
You're not the one.
She wouldn't leave the desk.
The staff came up.
She's a little bit socially awkward, so didn't understand the cues, like, I'm not going to talk to you.
And she kept staying and asking.
Finally, I looked at her and I go, you're dismissed.
And she ambled off.
Well...
I thought that would be that, and about two months later, I'm here in Flagstaff, and my husband, who's very strong but a quieter kind of guy, texted me.
He's a geek, so he has ring doorbell cameras on our houses, and we were transitioning from, oh, that's a bad word, changing, moving from one house to the other down by the Capitol.
And so, for a moment there, we had three houses.
And she was trying to make a big heyday of that, like I didn't really live or hail from my district.
So anyway, she showed up at each of the two houses down there three times in two days.
Now, my husband, I'm not a whiner, so I never told him about her or this...
Little dust up at the office from last year and then this year was just all in a day's work.
So he sends me these pictures on text and says, who is this on our doorstep?
And I said, oh my gosh, this is this pushy reporter.
She was told to stay away from me.
Now she's stalking me at my home.
And so then I called my colleague, Senator Warren Peterson, the Senate president, and he goes, she's stalking you.
And I said...
Yeah!
So long story longer, I got the three photos.
Then I went to a judge here in Flagstaff, and I got a restraining order.
You come at me, I am going to push back double hard, and I'm going to embarrass you.
So I put that out, and then I contacted my colleague again, and he goes, put it out on Twitter.
And he knew what he was unleashing when he told Wendy Rogers to put something out on Twitter.
Okay?
That's right.
And so I put a little four panel post of the restraining order and her three pictures, one of which was at night, very spooky.
And in Trumpian fashion, we named her creepy Cameron Sanchez and put that out to the world.
And I gave it to Cat Turd to retweet.
I love it.
I love it.
The Capital Times has a followership of, what, 35,000?
Wendy's got Cat Turd, okay?
So that thing was seen probably by now by over a half million viewers.
And so that went out and so she, they're under Gannett News, which is a big conglomerate.
So they had some lawyer flown in from Chicago because she challenged the restraining order here in court.
In Flagstaff.
So all my friends came.
They filled up the courtroom.
There was an overflow room.
They half filled up.
Phoenix TV was airing it, live stream.
It was this big, you know, cast the conservative Wendy Rogers in the limelight to put pressure on her.
Hey, well, I wasn't having it.
So I got the best lawyer.
However, Army combat veteran Will Fischbach, who won war crimes trials in Iraq, great guy, Iron Man athlete, very simpatico, he came up here and, you know, pled for me.
Now, here's the thing.
Three-hour proceeding, this was like a month ago, too.
It was a little bit longer ago than the Sentencing trial on the guy that threatened my life.
And so anyway, long story short, the three hours later, the judge up here says, well, I'm going to quash this order.
If Senator Rogers wants someone to not come to her home, she should have a no trespassing sign and or send a letter in accordance with Arizona revised statute number whatever not to come to her house.
Well, My army combat lawyer sprang up from the table, didn't miss a beat.
And he goes, thank you for mentioning that.
Judge looks at the impudent reporter and says, you are never...
To come to any of Senator Rogers' homes ever again.
And you all in the press box here, and there were a lot of reporters there, none of you or anyone in your organizations are authorized to visit any of Senator Rogers' homes again.
And judge, I want that in the record, in writing from this proceeding today.
And the judge was sputtering as if to say, what did I open up here?
But he got one-upped with the smartness of intelligence of my lawyer.
And so we sort of lost that battle.
But we won the war.
You come after me, you're going to hear from me.
And I have Twitter, and I have people who...
Oh, and by the way, there were three of my senator colleagues in the front row sitting with my husband.
And we had just passed the budget in record time and with great results at 5.30 that morning.
We went to sleep, had to leave Phoenix at 10 to get up here by 1.
So my colleagues had three hours of sleep, and each one of them drove up here to support me.
So the whole picture was that we, the Arizona Senate, aren't going to put up with this brat reporter Stalking one of us.
And when I went back to the Capitol a few weeks, you know, we're on these long recesses right now.
I went back and she was, oh yeah, she's avoiding me because, and all the reporters, they know.
You come after me, you're going to get tweeted about.
Your picture's going to go up in lights.
I'm going to put a restraining order on you.
You're going to get embarrassed.
Yep.
Well, and I hope every reporter watching this, including Greg Blustein with AJC that loves to harass me, I hope you all understand that we will come for you.
You will not come to our personal homes.
To me, when you come to my personal home, that's a whole different level.
In fact, I told you we were doing the strategy session.
And some of the people there, they were like, well, we could go outside their homes of the House and Senate members, and we could pick it, you know, on the street.
I said, no, never will you go to their house.
Never.
And they were like, what?
And I said, I was swatted.
I was like, Wendy Rogers, did you see what happened to her with that reporter?
That is where they go to be with their family.
Their family did not ask for this.
You do not go to people's personal homes.
And I don't know where that line is with people they don't understand, but homes are off.
Right.
And so our house down by the Capitol, my neighbor, the one we moved to, which is still under renovation, my neighbor two doors down came to me and said, boy, that reporter picked the wrong street.
And I said, why?
He said, because we have more guns on this street than anywhere else in town, because they're all pilots.
It's an air park.
And so I said, that's great.
And that's the thing.
We all keep each other informed.
We're very vigilant.
It's a very disciplined ethos among us.
And we're just not having it.
And to that point, here in Flagstaff, I like to hike a lot.
And there's one park called Buffalo Park where I feel very safe when I hike alone because other people are around, but it's very scenic and beautiful.
And I wear my Trump shirt.
People come up to me and go, I like your shirt.
You know, it's funny because they like it and they don't want to say it too loudly.
But there are a lot of conservatives who appreciate when you stand up, who appreciate when you push back.
We have to stand up.
We have to push back.
My children, we went to the Trump Towers and we got to see the escalator where President Trump came down, the famous.
And so we spent like $800 in the Trump store, which is a bunch of money for my little family.
But we got gifts for everybody in our family and it was where we spent all of our money up for souvenirs.
But it was beautiful and it was, you know, Trump-esque.
The whole place, we ate at the cafe in there and the kids loved it.
And they're like, Mama, you know, I have one going to ABAC. He's going to like an agricultural college that's going to transfer to UGA. He's just graduated.
He's like, Mama, I'm wearing this.
I said, Baby, you wear that shirt.
He won, period.
We all know.
Everybody knows.
And he's going to win now or we're going to have another hijacked election.
And I don't know if our country will stand for it.
And I do not want to be in civil war, Senator.
I do not want us to be in civil war, but I don't know the people in this country will put up with another hijacking again.
We're doing everything we can to expose it and prevent it.
Actually, an author named Jay Valentine put out an American Thinker article, and I told Bannon about it, and he had him on a couple of days ago.
And this is a preventive, real-time look at data before votes are cast to clean it up.
That and many other things make me hopeful.
We have to try Candice every day, irrespective.
We don't know what, as I'm fond of saying, what strand of the skein of yarn will unravel The whole, you know, ball of yarn.
But we have to keep trying.
And Carrie Lake, I won't be with her tonight.
My husband will be and my neighbors will be.
She's got a book signing down in the Phoenix area.
And I know because we talk frequently, we don't know what will end up happening.
We're not sort of unraveling everything, but we have to try each and every day, every avenue.
For example, there was a Senate concurrent resolution that we in the Arizona Senate got passed between ourselves and the House that didn't require a governor's signature.
And it essentially says in five pages that the federal government deemed in 2017 That election machinery was critical infrastructure and as such had to ascribe to the standards and criteria that DOD does for safety and for security.
And if you can't guarantee that the machines meet those criteria, then you need to go back to paper ballots for the federal We, the state legislature, are, in effect, recovering our plenary power to determine time, manner, and place of federal elections because the United States Constitution gave us, the state legislatures, that power.
So we put out this...
Concurrent resolution.
We have only 15 counties in Arizona.
And we presented, I, Sonny Borelli and I, the other senator who's also retired.
Yeah, we're both the retired military senators, Marine, Air Force.
We presented to his little county way out on the Nevada border, Mojave County.
And if you look on my Wendy Rogers AZ Twitter, the top pinned tweet is my...
Talk to the Board of Supervisors.
Some of the states call them county commissioners.
Here we call them supervisors.
And I spoke to them being at the pointiest tip of the sword.
And it takes one county to be brave and to lead.
And I exhorted them to lead.
Because if they lead and Determine that our SCR, Senate Concurrent Resolution, is the way to go and they implement it, which they should by law.
It's going to end up in court, but they could do it voluntarily to lead.
Then they are doing the right thing, not only to inspire other counties in Arizona, but inspire the rest of the 49 states in the United States to do so.
Because again, all 49 other states should, must do this as well.
Recover their plenary, which means absolute power, as a state legislature, again, to determine time, manner, and place of federal elections.
Now you say, what about state elections?
We passed a bill.
We tried to pass a bill to do that, but of course, Hobbs wouldn't sign it.
She's vetoed over 110 bills.
Record number.
She's out of control.
And that's, of course, known.
That's what happens when you get somebody fraudulent in there because they have no accountability.
There's nobody they're accountable to.
But, Weedy, you said something powerful.
The strand and the yarn.
Yes.
Look what can change in three days.
The Holy Spirit was reminding me of this when you were talking.
Look what happened in three days.
Jesus was dead, defeated, done.
Dead.
Dead is dead.
And he was resurrected from the dead, totally paid our sin in full, was ascended to heaven.
I mean, look what happened to all of humanity in three days.
So we don't know what's going to pull for Kerry that could totally change that.
What's going to pull for President Trump that can totally change that.
My election in Georgia was totally hijacked too.
They made me look like an idiot because they took all of my votes, gave them to Kemp and gave me 5% of the total.
Total farce.
I want to tell you one thing that we discovered when we were meeting last week, and I told you Mark Fincham came, and he was very intrigued by this.
We use a system called Eric and Jarvis for art.
And I don't know if y'all use that too or something similar, right?
Eric and some of the counties, unfortunately, yes.
So this is for the voter rolls.
And so we had experts there who have taken, Kim Brooks is one of them in Georgia, but they have taken, and Jason, too.
Jason's awesome.
But they took them and they dissected them.
They went through, I'm talking about hours and hours and hours.
But it boils down to this one thing.
They can clean up the voter rolls.
They can clean it up, clean up hundreds of thousands.
And they are putting them in an inactive status.
They're not taking them out.
So the week before the election, they're reactivating them.
They're voting them.
They're pulling them out the next week.
They have it in black and white where they did this.
And so then in Georgia, the law says, I think it's like three election cycles.
You have to be inactive before you're taken off completely.
Well, they're never taken off completely because they're voted and pulled off again inactive.
And this has been going on for quite some time.
So there's no need in cleaning the voter rolls as long as we have Eric and Jarvis.
And when we had this revelation last week, we were just dumbfounded.
We're not only fighting the mules, we're not only fighting the QR code and the algorithm.
Because in Georgia, we don't hand mark paper like y'all do and then scan it.
We have a receipt.
We touch screen and they print a receipt.
It's not a ballot.
It has a QR code that we scan.
So we're even worse than Arizona in our voting procedures.
That's why we have to have hand marked paper counted at the precinct level with our neighbors.
Republican, Democrat, Independent.
We trust those people.
We do not trust these voting machines.
Agreed.
Completely.
And they put these voter ballots aside and then what they ever have to make up to steal it with, then they pull from them.
Yes.
Yeah, it's bad.
It's bad, and it's a total hijacking of our system.
It's not American.
People are saying, well, we just won't vote.
I'm like, we have to vote.
When we quit showing up to vote, they'll quit having elections.
They'll say, okay, it's like Venezuela.
We've got them now, so we'll just quit wasting the money for elections.
We don't have to do that anymore.
I want to ask you something that I've been thinking the whole time and I want to get it because we have like seven minutes and I want to make sure I get this in.
Tell me what is different from being active duty and fighting for your country and that service capacity versus being a senator in this service capacity.
What's different for you emotionally?
What's different for you intellectually and with your family?
That's a great question.
There was a 23 year gap in between and I was a small business owner with my husband of a home inspection franchise.
So I guess there was Sort of a gradual change through my life professionally as the years went by.
Plus, of course, I'm a mother and a grandmother.
In the military, you put on a uniform and you show up to work every day.
And in my case, fly airplanes.
It's still political now that I think back on it.
But it's political in a way that is...
Sort of, in the Air Force especially, unfortunately, very ambition-oriented, but you're not serving voters, and so there's a different dynamic.
I think there are two components to running for office.
There's the actual campaigning, and then there's the actual serving in office, in my case, in the Senate.
That was strikingly similar to when I had a staff job At the headquarters in U.S. Air Force is Europe.
I had to staff policy packages and get approval and sort of work that.
So those two components are actually sort of similar.
The campaigning component of becoming a senator and then, of course, getting reelected Has, in retrospect, been more like owning a small business, where you have to sell your ideas, you have to sell your service, in our case.
You have to show, of course, that you have follow through, that you have consistency, that you care, and that you're honest, especially in the home inspection business.
Home buyers rely upon you to give an honest assessment of the systems and the structure of the house.
A lot of home inspectors are tempted to please the realtor who referred him or her the business.
But we always kept in mind that our ultimate customer was the home buyer because we wanted to give that person an honest assessment.
And so there was this sort of tug and pull.
And I liken that to lobbyists in a way because lobbyists are sort of like the realtors could have been where they want you to subvert what is honest and right and cater to what they want you to do.
And I'm generalizing, but there are some parallels there.
So what's interesting is now...
I'm a re-elected senator.
I'm in my second term.
We are allowed to serve four terms.
And to this day, I don't take a penny from lobbyists.
And they're really sort of, I don't want to say scared of me, but they avoid me at the Capitol.
They don't know what to do with me.
Exactly.
They don't know what to do with me.
me.
And it's funny because occasionally they'll see me in a small one-on-one situation, like say in the elevator or out on the courtyard at the Capitol or someplace where I'm with a colleague and then a lobbyist will walk up to talk to my colleague and then, oh, you're Wendy like say in the elevator or out on the courtyard at I mean, well, they know who I am, I guess.
And then they kind of guardedly stand there and I say, I I kind of have a little fun with this, honestly.
I love to just sort of joke and have them realize that I'm human.
I don't have to be a jerk just because I don't take money from them.
And when I first ran three years ago, they'd send me money to my family.
Campaign box here in Flagstaff and I would write a letter.
I had a pre-fab form letter that my campaign helper who owns the UPS store who goes through my mail, God bless her, Michelle Fisher, and she'd say, what do I do with this check?
And I'd say, well, it's the form letter.
You need to send it back and cordially say, Wendy doesn't Want your money because you're a lobbyist, but it's so many words, right?
And so then they just stopped sending me money.
And that's the other thing.
You know, I fundraise a lot, but I do it from small dollar donors all over the country.
And wendyrogers.org is my website, if anyone is so inclined.
And I get badgered for that.
What the heck?
You take donations from all over the country.
Yeah, I do.
Because the little old lady in tennis shoes in Connecticut doesn't have a Wendy Rogers who fights.
And this is a big fight.
This is a national fight.
And they get that.
And so they donate to me.
And they hear from me.
And they keep up with them.
And they know that Arizona is at ground zero.
And so go away.
Because I'm not going to argue with you about that.
And again, they're petty and they're jealous.
That's right.
And I told them, Wendy, they offered me a million.
I said, I bought and played for the blood of Jesus.
I'm not for sale.
And so they don't know what to do with that.
You know, they just don't.
I think, you know, you being here today and it being Independence Week, this Independence, you know, celebrating our freedom, you're a firecracker.
And so it's awesome that you came this week.
I think it's amazing.
I have one more question and we're going to stop just because I met your husband.
He's so handsome.
You're so beautiful.
Y'all do not look like grandparents.
Y'all are just a gorgeous couple and so in love with each other and attentive to each other.
So this is not political.
I want you to tell people what makes marriage work.
What advice would you give to couples listening to this to help their marriages?
Well, you have to be open and honest.
So just example, yesterday, we went on a hike, and we were really arguing and hashing through a bunch of disagreements we had.
And he couldn't say, shush, the neighbors will hear, because we were way out in the middle of the woods, which was great.
And then, you know, it worked out.
We worked through all these little bubbles, you know, along the way.
He left this morning.
We're communicating well.
Things, Angele, things, you know, go up and down.
We have always had this commitment to just talk it out and be respectful.
We've been married 45 years, which is amazing.
I don't know where the time's gone, but we have some unusual things.
Sort of things about our marriage.
First of all, I kept my maiden name.
The joke is that he kept his maiden name.
Ha ha.
But the children have Rogers as their middle name.
And as our daughter dryly observes, I'm glad I don't have Rogers as my last name because then I would catch all kinds of flack.
But anyway, it's funny.
Ha ha.
And so we have a son and a daughter who are in their 30s.
We homeschooled them after we got out of the military.
And then they went to a charter school.
They're very independent, very self-successful, and we were strict parents.
Our daughter was quite a little bit of a wild child, and there are stories about how I had to, especially being the mom, kind of put my thumb down.
But now, Oh my gosh.
You know, if you call her on the phone, she has got all the trains running on time in that family.
She and her husband have two little boys.
She works from home, has a very high powered job.
They have like...
Three dogs, two dogs, two cats.
The place is just, they have a nanny.
It's everything.
It's crazy.
And everything goes like clockwork in that house.
No one messes with the parents.
And that's the way we raised her.
Our son and his wife.
Our daughter-in-law is a registered nurse, neonatal intensive care.
Oh.
She's not working now, but a very highly trained, precise, on-the-ball woman.
And our son is a Ph.D., electrical engineer, very serious.
His birthday's tomorrow, or day after tomorrow.
And they have four kids.
And it was funny, because this house we're renovating today.
I said to my husband, I said, I'm not sleeping in a construction zone.
I have to wear a suit.
I have to go in.
I have appointments.
Call me when it's done.
Yeah, whatever.
So I told the grandkids who live 15 minutes away, Grandma wants to stay with you.
Oh, yeah, here's the guest room.
So two weeks ago, I spent a week there, and I really saw our son converted to Catholicism, which is fine.
And they're very, very devout.
They do the rosary in the morning.
One of our grandchildren, the eldest, was being kind of lippy and disobedient.
So our Marine son has her getting up at 530 every morning to study the scripture.
I mean, this is a very serious family.
And two funny things came out of that week.
The first...
For the second morning, I was sitting there at breakfast, and they have chores.
They have a chore chart.
They're homeschooled.
So it's all, you know, they screw around a lot.
I had to crack the whip to help the parents.
But anyway, granddaughter looks at me and goes, Grandma.
I said, Yes.
She said, Now you know why we like to come and spend the night at your house, because then we don't have to do all this stuff.
And I looked at the parents and I thought, you know, it's funny because they say things like that.
And then, of course, the second night I was there, I pulled the covers back and they put all these plastic critter bugs in my sheets and in my pillowcase, scared the daylights out of me.
Well, I got them back because I short-sheeted one of their beds.
They didn't even know what that was.
It was great.
But the youngest one, who's five, told the other grandson.
I overheard him.
He said, Grandma's played a trick on you.
I can just tell by looking at her.
I can just tell by her face.
She's tricking you.
You better watch out.
This is a five-year-old.
So anyway, we have a lot of fun with these kids.
And this house that we're renovating, We're putting a putting green in the front, and people are saying, what?
It's going to look tacky like an HOA. I said, no, I've got a designer.
I know it's going to look good, and it's because I like to have fun, okay?
And in the backyard, it's going to be all grass, and I'm going to have a zip line.
I've got an observation deck on the roof so we can see the airplanes because it's in an air park.
And there's going to be a zip line.
And my contractor says, you know, I get that you're the fun grandma.
I get that you're a pilot.
I get all this.
And your grandkids and you have a good time.
But we need to get you and Hal in the house and get the interior done before I think about how to do a zip line.
Okay?
I said, okay.
You're like, I guess that's not as important, but the zip line is really important.
That's important.
And we like to do all this stuff, you know, and imagine like we're ninjas and we're spies and we're going to, you know, anyway.
Save the country.
That's what you're doing for real.
It's fun.
It's fun.
And when babies are born, you know what I give as a baby gift?
What?
I've probably never said this on a podcast.
I go to flyboys.com and I order a flight jacket.
I love it!
It's authentic.
Zippers, pockets, miniature, everything.
And then I choose the patches.
Okay, so this family who has three boys and a girl, and the mom just gave birth to another boy.
Little girl's disappointed, but whatever.
So I sent two jackets.
One...
The largest size, so the older boys can wear it.
Their dad's ex-Navy, so I got all the best I could figure it out, the Navy patches that would go together.
I'm not Navy, so don't know all that.
And then the littler jacket, I got Air Force wings and everything, and that's the gift I give.
Now, the child isn't big enough for it right away, but then the family looks forward to when the child can wear it, and it's useful.
And they know who it's from.
I never have to say love, Hal, and Wendy because they know it's from me, right?
I love that.
That is awesome.
That's you, though.
That's your personality, Wendy.
And we love you for it.
And we just, let me tell you, this whole country is behind you.
All of my viewers are.
You keep fighting.
We have got your back.
And if they mess with you, you tell us and we will retweet it.
We will share it everywhere.
Tell everybody, I know you mentioned earlier, but they're going to flash all this on the screen.
So tell everybody how to reach you, how to follow you, how to find you.
Sure.
So my website in and of itself, not social media, but my website, which is a pretty good website, is my name, wendyrogers.org.
Wendy, I tell people, like the hamburgers, Rogers, like mrrogers.org.
WendyRogers.org.
But also on Twitter, I never got kicked off, don't know why, but Twitter, GabGetter, Facebook, and TrueSocial, same call sign, at WendyRogersAZ.
WendyRogersAZ for Arizona.
And what I do, if I originate material, like here I am in Flagstaff and so forth, then I put that out on all five platforms.
If I repost something, I typically just do it on Twitter because I repost a lot.
I try to put out a variety of sources of content.
I particularly like to follow Cat Turd, D.C. Drano, Jack Posobiec, Bannon, of course, Carrie Lake, and Abe Hamaday.
And it's funny because I'll sort of end on this.
I'll see people all the time and they'll say, well, what is the truth?
Where can I get the truth?
And I say, Twitter.
And they go, oh, I don't do social media.
And I go, give me your phone.
If I'm at a restaurant like I did this two weeks ago up here, a couple of Arizona Rangers were visiting.
That's a voluntary restaurant.
A police group that augments different city police forces.
They're great statewide.
I said, okay, we're here together for an hour.
Give me your phone.
So they both gave me their phone.
And one already had Twitter.
The other one had to call his wife and get the password.
It's pretty funny.
And so then they got set up and I said, okay, do this after what I start following.
This one, this one, this one, this one, this one.
It took about an hour.
And they said, oh, don't inundate me.
I go, no, I'm tailoring.
Your feed.
If I give you 30 sources to follow, I am narrowing the spigot to where you're just going to get updates from people who put out the truth.
That's right.
And then if you get something in there, you don't like something unsavory or whatever, then you need to mute them or block them.
Oh, and by the way, I'm glad I sort of mentioned this.
Everybody...
You need to see the movie Sound of Freedom with James Caviezel.
Okay, because we...
Good.
The Arizona legislators, my colleagues and I, were allowed to do a pre-screen view of the movie two weeks ago in downtown Phoenix, and it was powerful.
The theater was pretty full, and...
James Caviezel does an off-camera 10-minute epilogue at the end where he's not looking at you.
It's very interesting.
I don't know if they'll do this for the normal viewers, but he's looking sideways.
And he talks about how it took six years to To get this out.
Because it's so unpalatable.
It's so scary.
It's so unsavory.
And I knew before I went, in fact, that was the week I was with the grandkids, I said to my daughter-in-law, I said, I don't think I'm looking forward to seeing this movie, but I have to.
And she said, uh-huh.
So I went, and Hal and I went.
And it's actually very hopeful.
It's so well done.
I mean, it's Hollywood-caliber quality.
It's not a second-rate-produced movie at all, okay?
So be ready for first-rate acting, first-rate directing and production.
And, of course, James Caviezel is fabulous.
It's a fantastic movie.
The other thing, if you haven't seen it yet, Matt Walsh's What is a Woman.
Those are the two things I tell people.
You have to see these two productions.
They are...
Life-changing.
But the Sound of Freedom movie is so necessary because, as you will learn, the United States is the worst country in the world.
Worst country in the world for child trafficking.
And two million children a year.
It's modern-day slavery.
It is so bad.
It's so sick and twisted, Wendy.
I've been doing these children for 20 years as a public school educator, as a counselor, and I had one really severe trafficking case that somebody was kidnapped in New York, and they had moved like 12 times.
Anyway, I ended up being the Lord that got her out, and it was horrible, horrible, horrible.
And I can't imagine doing it every single day.
I mean, I left early childhood and went to the upper grades because I couldn't do it anymore after that.
It was horrible.
Yeah.
And these children are used and abused.
And watch for Mel Gibson now to reveal some very high-up people, whoever they will be, publicly as being a party to all of this child abuse.
And, you know, we're at a very, very...
There's a physical evil presence pervading the country.
And I just hope and pray that more and more people understand it, realize it, because the first step is exposure.
And I get this question every day, what can I do?
What can I do?
And I say, the first is to expose.
You must expose the truth.
You see something, you have to expose it.
Because eventually it's going to permeate the greater consciousness of this country.
And that is, the left doesn't want you to speak.
The left doesn't want you to push back.
The left wants to cow you.
But when you push back, they're not ready for that.
Be silent.
Don't be silent.
Right.
You have to speak up and they want you to be cowed and we, the more of us who aren't, Bud Light, Target, all these ways.
I mean, arguably Pride Month did not go well for the Pride advocates is all I got to say because we stood up and we pushed back.
There was something on one of, my husband was watching this, they had came up, and I think it was Target, but it was a, it said witches, it was with Pride and trans, but it was like something to do with the witches and it was like very forceful with the occult and the way the shirt was done.
And it was trans too.
And they put it front of their store.
And it lasted like three days.
And people were so like, what?
And it freaked them out.
They were not anticipating the reaction from We the People.
They thought that we had been brainwashed further than what we had.
And so I think that they really pushed the envelope and tried to, like, just, bam, indoctrination this time, and it didn't work, and they saw stuff plummet.
I think everything was premeditated.
They were going to shove it on us hard, and it didn't work out the way they thought it would, and now they're going bankrupt.
Well, and also the whole, and this is a whole other segment, but what happened with COVID, the shot, the scam, and all of that, I think they, in some respects, got farther down With us than they thought.
But now the pushback is evident.
And I will be with Dr.
Peter McCullough in a few days.
There is a health and freedom gathering in Phoenix.
It starts, I think, tomorrow.
I will be joining it Friday and Saturday.
And this is at the Phoenix Convention Center.
It is to enable those who have fallen through the cracks medically to get free dental checkup, Free eye exam, ear exams, and so forth.
And also to get a treatment regimen for if you took the COVID shot to have it flushed from your body.
And then Dr.
McCullough will be there several of those days and he and I will be together on the panel, I think, Friday night.
And that, I think, I've tried to facilitate this.
Mike Lindell will live stream it, Lindell TV. So, you know, they came to me and said, you're part of the movement.
Can you help us get coverage?
And Mike He said he would try to get that done.
This is so needed.
Peter McCullough, I follow his substack.
He is such a fine physician and spokesman and very Ahead of the bow wave on all of the medical tyranny.
So we have medical tyranny, we have economic tyranny, political tyranny.
Immorality.
Right.
And so we have to be aware of all these fronts that we're fighting.
We're fighting everybody.
So that's why with Jesus, Guns, and Babies, right, Wendy?
We just go see Sound of Freedom.
Follow Wendy.
We plead the blood of Jesus over you, Wendy, and Hal.
And we thank you for the Lord for protecting you.
Thank you so much for coming on today.
I will see y'all next week on Jesus, Guns, and Babies.
I love you.
God bless you, and God bless America.
God bless America.
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