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June 1, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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The REAL Stewart Rhodes: Never-Seen Interview after being Sentenced to 18 YEARS in Prison!
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Well, last week, the founder and the former leader of the patriotic militia group, The Oath Keepers, Stuart Rhodes, was sentenced to 18 years in federal prison.
His alleged crimes?
That January 6th catch-all phrase, seditious conspiracy.
Rhodes is the first person convicted of seditious conspiracy in the January 6, 2021 event to receive his punishment and his sentence is the longest handed down so far in the hundreds of Capitol protest cases.
And he did not even step one foot inside the Capitol building.
He was there supporting the president just like so many of us were.
He's 58 years old, almost 60, and it looks like he'll be spending the rest of his life rotting away behind bars.
This is a despicable and sick miscarriage of justice, and all of us Americans should be outraged and sick over it.
They claim that he planned and coordinated the January 6th attack on the Capitol.
No, he did not.
The only thing he was planning was how to keep the thousands of people there safe in the event that the rally devolved into chaos or violence, or was met with violent Antifa protesters like so many have before.
Or, in the event that President Trump initiated the Insurrection Act, as he was specifically floating around before and talking about doing prior to, he and other militia would be ready to back him up.
I knew Stuart Rhodes personally.
He is a good, good man, and one of the most solid, good-hearted, smartest patriots I know, who is truly passionate about upholding every letter of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
He embodied what it meant to be a real patriot in the truest sense of the word and truly fight for our country.
Since January 6th, there was a hit piece done about him, one by Revolver News, who speculated that he might be an FBI informant.
They had no basis for their claims, other than the fact that he hadn't been arrested yet.
Well, since then, obviously, he's been massively raided, arrested, charged, had an arduous trial, and now has been sentenced to 18 years in prison.
But a lot of people on the right took that rumor from the article and smeared it around, which is so sad because it is categorically false.
In fact, it later came out that the vice president of the Oath Keepers was the one who was actually an FBI informant.
And he was sneaking information about Stewart and the Oath Keepers to the FBI for months before January 6th.
And he was the one who turned on and set up Stewart and the Oath Keepers.
This man, Greg McWhirter, was his good friend, and Stewart made him the vice president of the Oath Keepers.
But little did he know, he was an FBI plant.
This is public knowledge now, and not speculation.
And you know what's even crazier?
Greg McWhirter ended up not being used as a witness in Stewart's trial for the prosecution.
Because, well, they realized he would blow their case wide open and expose the whole fact that January 6th was an FBI setup, being that he is an FBI informant himself and would have obviously some damning information there.
But he was going to testify as a witness for the defense, Stuart Rhodes.
And you know what funny thing happened on the way to him going to testify?
On his flight to DC, on his plane, he suffered a sudden heart attack and had to be escorted off the plane by paramedics and sent to the hospital.
And he's no longer even really been heard of since.
Poof!
Another essential witness gone and he could no longer testify in Stewart's trial.
Who do you think made his sudden heart attack happen?
So I say all this because I actually did a sit-down interview with Stuart back in March of 2021, between January 6th and his later arrest, and I never ended up releasing it because he later went to trial and everything that happened, and I didn't want to potentially put his case in jeopardy.
But I thought this was the perfect time to release it now and show everyone who the real Stuart Rhodes is.
The whole interview is over an hour and a half, but I'm releasing the first of the interview now, tonight, and I want you to listen to him, watch him, and make up your own mind about him.
I believe you, too, will see his heart and authenticity and see him as the true patriot that he is, and he should be honored as such, not go to prison with a black mark on him.
I believe he is a patriot and a political prisoner, and I want to set the record straight.
So with that, I introduce you to Stuart Rhodes.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, when did you found the Othi version?
So I found it in 2009, although the idea from it came at the tail end of Ron Paul's campaign in 2008, when I realized I was not going to get the nomination for the GOP. I knew we were in trouble, whether it was going to be John McCain, at the time I didn't know if it was going to be Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton on the Democrat side.
But I knew that no matter who it was on the Democrat side, Whether John McCain won or not, we were screwed because John McCain, I think, was a globalist traitor, just as bad as Hillary or Obama.
So that's why I decided to found Oath Keepers.
And the whole premise was, hey, we're screwed politically.
Both sides are bad.
You know, two wings, the same bird of prey.
Let's focus on the guys with the guns, the ones who will be given the orders to violate our rights, to try to get as many of them to take the Constitution seriously, take their oath seriously to defend the Constitution, and make some bright-line decisions about what things they will not do if given orders to do so.
So the first thing we did out of the gate was issue a declaration of ten orders we will not obey, which pretty much tracked the Bill of Rights, and then add in some of our experiences in the 20th century with concentration camps, things like that.
So it's just like, hey, a declaration of orders you will not obey.
But right out of the gate, because I dared to start it when Obama was elected, the left, of course, accused me of doing it because there was a black president now.
I could care less what color he was.
So it was out of the gate where we were being attacked.
And, of course, the left at that time was all about no one should ever question the orders they're being given.
They should just be obedient and do what they're told.
Wow.
The funny thing is, so Obama's last couple years was like when I started getting awake.
That was when I started realizing, wait a second, okay, he's either the worst president, the dumbest president ever, Or he's strategically following a plan to destroy America.
I just thought a president was supposed to protect the country.
But he was making so many bizarre, stupid decisions that I'm like, okay, so he's either following a plan and he's intentionally destroying the country or he's just dumb.
And that's what led me to the rabbit holes of the deep state and what Marxism is and liberalism and everything.
And I realized, wow, there's a group of people that are trying to Control the world basically and and that's what started waking me up was Obama and his presidency So and I was thinking aren't there any people out there that are trying to still uphold the Constitution and I found out about like the Oath Keepers and three percenters and other militias and So just a little bit of context.
When 9-11 hit, I was a first-year law student at Yale Law School.
Oh, wow.
So I served as a paratrooper in the Army, and then after that I worked for Ron Paul in his D.C. office, just a lower-level staff position.
But I got my taste of D.C., saw what it was like.
But when 9-11 hit, That's where you saw the flood of the Patriot Act and enemy combatant detention of U.S. citizens and all these extraordinary claims of power of the presidency during a Republican administration.
And I opposed all of that and wrote about it as being unconstitutional.
I wrote a thesis for my law school thesis that won an award at Yale for best people in the Bill of Rights.
But because I was opposing Bush, The things he was doing, the other students, professors thought I was a liberal.
Because, of course, the only reason you would oppose a Republican, you must be a liberal.
So this is kind of ironic that when Obama came in, all of a sudden they accused me of being some kind of hyper-partisan who didn't like a Democrat.
It's like, no, I don't like executive power abuses, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat.
And what I saw with Obama was a continuation of Bush's policies.
Even worse, he was like the drone king.
He was drone striking people all over the globe, and the left was, you know, saying nothing about it, turning a blind eye to it, and including American citizens.
He killed Al-Awlaki's son, who was an American citizen, drone strike of his teenage boy, and it's like, well, how come no one's saying anything about this?
So it was just kind of a crazy land experience to have the left who were, you know, they attacked Bush, and rightfully so, but when Obama did it, the exact same thing, or worse, Blind to it.
Everything's fine.
Like the monkeys.
See no evil, hear no evil.
So it was a weird experience going from Bush to Obama.
And I'm being consistent.
I am consistent.
I'm a constitutionalist.
I don't care who it is.
I'm going to oppose it if it's not constitutional, in my understanding.
And I'm going to support it if it is.
Now, but like you, you realize that there's a bigger agenda.
And what I saw with Obama is that he is the great divider.
He was sent in to divide this country, especially along racial lines.
He made people more hypersensitive of their color of their skin and their racial identity, not less.
The exact opposite of Martin Luther King's statement about what his goal was of a country where his children would be judged by the content of their character and the color of their skin.
It's the exact opposite.
Obama's all about, that could have been my son.
Why?
Because he was black?
That's focused on race.
So I think Obama was sending the divide.
And I think he was a setup for Hillary, and Hillary was supposed to be the final chapter.
She was supposed to be ushered in, and after that, that'd be all over.
Then Trump came along, and he screwed all that up by beating Hillary.
I think that's true.
And that's what I was thinking, because as soon as 2016 rolled around, I was thinking, okay, I was prepared for Hillary to win.
Because as much as I really like Trump on the campaign trail, I just figured, I knew enough about the deep state at that point that I thought this was all rigged, they'll never allow someone that's not an insider in, and Hillary's obviously going to get it.
And on election day, I was really depressed walking around because I was thinking Hillary's going to win.
It's terrible.
She's going to take her guns away and everything.
So what were you guys doing as the Oath Keepers?
During this period before Trump did get elected, were you guys preparing for a Hillary presidency?
Did you guys do drills?
A day in the life of the Oath Keepers?
We have a two-fold mission.
From day one, it was to remind the current serving of their responsibilities, teach them more about the Constitution they swore an oath to defend, try to help them understand where the lines were.
Like Hurricane Katrina is a good example of crossing a line.
You had unconstitutional gun confiscation that was done by law enforcement officers who were brought in from all over the country to help.
And they were obeying orders to violate people's rights and confiscate guns.
Now, then also National Guardsmen.
So it was a big wake-up call for a lot of people that, oh, wait a minute.
They thought, oh, our guards would never do that.
They would never obey such orders.
Well, they did.
So you realize that a lot of these men don't have a proper understanding of the Bill of Rights.
So that big part was, hey, teach them about the Bill of Rights.
It was also outreach to the veterans.
Like, I was a paratrooper in the Army.
Other guys, you know, serve all the branches.
And we have a duty to defend the Constitution in our own way, too.
So part of that was like what we did at Bundy Ranch.
We stood up for the Bundy family's rights.
We wanted to make sure they weren't Waco-ed.
We put ourselves in between them and the government.
It was a big standoff.
Not just us, of course, many other patriots from all over the country.
But we brought in five current serving sheriffs.
We helped bring in a bunch of state legislators.
They were coming in also.
We helped facilitate that.
We did as best we could to basically put human shields of current serving law enforcement, sheriffs, and legislators around the Bundy family to protect them.
We also had our men in the way, too.
And our thinking was not that we wanted a confrontation with federal government, but we weren't going to let them be Waco.
We weren't going to let a family be slaughtered like that.
Wow.
So we took part in that.
It was purely defensive, just focused on keeping the family from being murdered.
That's it.
Was there a high risk of them being murdered?
I think so, yeah.
We could see the same pattern of behavior and setup and demonization that we saw before the Waco massacre, where you had women and children burned to death.
So we were not going to stand for a repeat of that.
What year was that in?
That was 2014.
Okay.
Geez, I probably wasn't politically active enough at that time to...
And then another we did, of course, was in Ferguson when the riots started happening there.
We did two things.
One, we wrote a letter to the governor.
They were stating, of Missouri, stating that the curfew was unconstitutional.
They had imposed a curfew.
We believe that curfews like that are unconstitutional.
They have a right to freedom of speech in the assembly.
I don't see where it says unless there's a curfew in effect.
And they were also tear gassing entire crowds including journalists and other people who were not protesting or not causing any violence.
And so then our law enforcement officers gave recommendations of, hey, here's how you should do it.
You should have undercover cops in the crowd looking for those who actually are throwing bricks at the police, and then you have a snatch team to go in and arrest them, only them.
Ironically, exactly what they were doing in Portland during the Trump administration.
You go grab the bad guys who were doing the actual violence, that's not speech, not protected speech, that's who you arrest.
That's the right thing to do.
So, of course, when Trump had them do that, it was demonized as military tactics or whatever.
But no, that's what you do.
Those who are just expressing their opinion and protesting, great.
They have a right to do so.
Those who are throwing bricks at the cops, you go arrest them.
So we gave recommendations, but we also warned the governor that, hey, you're trampling on people's rights.
If you continue to do this, we, the veterans, will oppose you, including in the streets.
So what the left will ignore is that we actually kind of threaten the governor Of Missouri, that if you don't respect the rights of the protesters, you're going to face us in the streets.
Wow.
They totally gloss over that.
But they focus on the fact that we were on rooftops with rifles.
We were on the rooftops of a block of buildings.
Our first client was a black lady who owned a bakery, and she didn't want her bakery destroyed.
And her neighbors were an oriental Asian restaurant owner, and then also an Asian owner of a beauty supply store.
So you had...
Asian restaurants, Asians and Blacks being protected by us.
And above them were apartments, so you had actual residences.
It wasn't just businesses, it was also your families who lived in the apartments above the shops.
That's what we were doing.
And our guys were there to protect everybody, whether they're white, black, yellow, we don't care.
We just want to protect Americans.
And the whole goal was to show the neighborhood, the people who live there, this is what you should be doing for yourselves.
And there were some other young black men in the neighborhood who went out and protected some of the stores, liquor stores and convenience stores, because they liked the people that owned them.
They were respectful to them.
They had a mutual respectful relationship.
And so when the riots started, they went and protected those businesses.
So that's what we wanted to see more of.
So we went there to set an example.
And of course, the left will say that white Oath Keepers traveled to Missouri to protect white businesses, which is a complete lie.
One of our guys was Filipino, and someone on the ground, one of the protesters, was calling out, KKK! And he pulled down his face mask and said, I didn't know that KKK was expanding their recruitment opportunities.
That was hilarious.
So that's kind of the backdrop of what Oath Keepers does, and we've also done a dozen hurricanes, too.
So yeah, I was going to ask you what the accomplishments have been like for you.
Oh yeah, a big dozen hurricanes.
Wow, a dozen hurricanes.
Oh yeah, Hurricane Harvey in Texas, the two big ones in Florida, the one in North Carolina.
We've done them all.
Puerto Rico, we were in Puerto Rico for three weeks.
Handing out supplies.
Handing out supplies, doing switch and rescue, escorting doctors and nurses.
A lot of times what will happen is, in the wake of a hurricane, the medical doctors and nurses that are coming in to help won't go into an area if they don't feel safe, and so we provide a security escort to take them in.
And of course a lot of our guys are ex-combat medics and ex-EMTs and paramedics and trauma nurses and things like that.
So they would also give medical checks to people.
So at the same time we're handing out supplies, we're also deterring bad guys like looters.
We're protecting people and we have built-in security.
So we'll go into places where Red Cross won't go.
FEMA and Red Cross, there's barrios in Puerto Rico we went into that no one had been to yet.
The government didn't care about them because they're an outlier of society.
Everyone's afraid to go in there because they're considered violent barrios.
We walked right in.
And of course, the little gangbangers would roll up on their little bikes with their hat on sideways and ask who we are.
And they're like, hey, we're here to help.
We're here to give food and medicine.
And they figured out that we're not going to be a threat to them.
We don't care about their business.
And of course, they also realized we're all packing.
So they all left us alone.
That's good.
That's how it goes.
I definitely feel comfortable and safe walking with an Oath Keeper around anywhere.
Yeah.
And that's what you guys are here for so much.
Right, and since Tripp was elected, right out of the gate, we were at the January 20th inauguration in 2017 in D.C. doing voluntary security on the streets.
Escorting people because Antifa was out and already said they were going to be out.
So from day one, we were protecting Trump supporters from Antifa.
We did that through the entire Trump administration.
Multiple free speech rallies, including two in Berkeley, one in Portland we were part of, you know, Boston, all over the country.
And our police officers, because they're cops, a lot of them are current serving, some former, they can carry anywhere in the country.
There's the Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act.
If they're licensed under that, they can carry anywhere.
And so that's one thing we have like an ace of our sleeve is that even in a hostile leftist jurisdiction like Berkeley, the local Berkeley cops, Newark cops were armed in the park.
They said, hey, we're not going to try to tell another police officer that he can't carry a gun.
They're just not going to do that.
So they let our guys carry, our police carried.
The military veterans like myself, we couldn't carry.
We just had, you know, helmets on and body armor in case we got in a fight.
So that's what's ironic.
Like right now, in the wake of January 6th, we're making a big deal of our guys having body armor and helmets on and goggles.
We've been wearing body armor, helmets, and goggles since Berkeley Park.
Because Antifa likes to throw bricks and hit you in the head with clubs.
They like to throw like, you know, pepper spray in your eyes or urine or whatever, or bleach.
So of course we wear goggles and we wear body armor because they like to stab people, you know, or possibly shoot you.
So you have cops within the Oath Keepers?
Yes, we have a large contingent of police officers.
My vice president is a black cop out of Montana who was a SWAT officer and a SWAT trainer in inner-city Indianapolis.
Okay, cool.
It was Marion County Police Department, or Sheriff's Department, which is like in a suburb of Indianapolis.
So he's a big city cop, moved to Montana, and he's a well-qualified SWAT instructor.
That's who my vice president is, and a lot of our guys are police officers.
So does the Oath Keeper sort of work well with the local police, typically?
Oh yeah, we always lay a sign with them.
Almost entirely, our relationship has been good.
And Ferguson was one exception.
Their politicized sheriff tried to come in and tell us we couldn't be on the rooftops because we weren't licensed in Missouri for security.
But we hired an attorney, and an attorney pointed out that, hey, that only applies to paid security.
We're volunteers.
Okay.
So we have, you know, Freedom Association.
You're right to Freedom Association.
Yeah.
So we defeated that and went back on the rooftops.
That was the only time we had to actually hassle with local law enforcement.
The rest of the time has been pretty smooth.
There's a lot of common ground.
We go talk to them.
Our cops talk to their cops.
A lot of them are military veterans.
We were in D.C. when they were tearing down the barricades when Barack Obama barricaded the World War II memorial.
So we went there with a World War II vet, Ren Bodecker, an old paratrooper.
We helped him carry the barricades across the street and dump them on the grass.
And a local cop comes up and he's like, hey man, you know, I get it.
I'm a veteran too.
He's like, we're not going to arrest you for doing that.
He said, just please be careful and don't get run over while you're doing it.
That's what he told us.
That's cool.
That's what I like.
So the Constitution says something about having a well-regulated militia.
Can you tell me what that says in the Constitution and what it means?
Well, it says, well, regular militia being necessary for security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
And what they meant by that is it's an institution that you have to have to be free, not optional.
Now, unfortunately, they had that.
It was organic in their communities before the Revolution.
That was their military.
There was no standing army in the United States.
It was all the militia.
They only had regulars come in to fight the French and Indians, and then later, when they started having resistance against the Crown, they started bringing in more regulars.
But the militia was the military, and the military was the people.
That's the founder's ideal, is that the people themselves are the military.
There's no separation.
Like, there's no separation between law enforcement and the people also.
Everyone pitched in.
If there was a fugitive or a threat to the community, everyone responded to the bell ringing and went out with a lantern and a hatchet or a lantern and a musket.
So that was their ideal.
That's what they lived for hundreds of years.
So when the revolution came, they used that militia to resist against the crown.
That was the beginning.
I mean, before Washington formed the Continental Army, it was all militia that laid siege to Boston and drove General Gage out of Boston Harbor.
It was militia guys that went and got the candidate for Tectonic Arroga.
So they understood that standing armies that they experienced from the British along with the Hessians they brought in as mercenaries, they understood that those were dangerous because a professional military class may see itself as being separate from and above the people and be more likely to follow orders because they are professionals whose lives and livelihood and support of their families depend on that paycheck.
Very much like modern police, right?
Full-time guardians.
So they said that it's a safer place to have the power of the sword in the hands of the people themselves.
It's hard to use you to oppress you.
If you and your neighbors are all the local Military force and law enforcement force, like the Sheriff's Posse, it's kind of hard to use you to oppress you.
That was their insight, that you don't want standing armies.
They're dangerous.
They should be kept small and only used in time of war.
So what tradition in America was is you would only raise an army in time of war, and during peacetime, that would disintegrate back into the militia system, and you would only have a small corps of professional officers Like guys who went to West Point or Naval Academy who were professional full-time soldiers.
Very small army.
And you would only raise a larger one during an actual war.
Now after World War II, we never dialed back.
We never went back to a peacetime footing.
It always stayed professional.
It was always this massive standing army.
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It's interesting because...
I think there should be more of that.
We're not in our culture now, in our generation, we're not trained that way.
But let's say, if we were more like that in our community, if we kind of had an alert system where...
It'd be better.
Someone's kid, you know, someone's being threatened by CPS to have their children taken away for no reason.
Or COVID police are coming after a business to shut them down for no reason unconstitutionally.
Why aren't we having like almost our own militia coming after and helping these people or helping these businesses?
But we don't organize that way anymore.
We don't think that way and I think we should.
Well, the militia is not intended to be, you know, break glass in case of tyranny.
It's also intended to occupy that space.
If the space is occupied by you and your neighbors, it's much more difficult to convince you and your neighbors to do something that violates your rights.
It's much easier to pressure someone whose paycheck depends on it.
And that's what we're seeing with law enforcement officers in far too many communities in the United States.
It's because, a lot of times they'll be like, I'm sorry, I don't agree with this either, but I've got to do this.
And the reason is that they have to support their families, they're afraid to lose their job, their pension, their mortgage, all that's tied up into going along with this stuff.
That's the danger of a professional warrior class.
However nice those people might be, and well intended, it's still the reality, it's human nature, that if your livelihood is dependent on this, you're more likely to say yes.
If you're not, like a National Guardsman, a part-time soldier, they have other careers or whatever, if they're told to go do something in violence to your rights, there's less pressure on them because if you kick me out of the National Guard, okay, fine.
I got a job.
But if you're a professional soldier or you're a professional police officer 24-7, 365, that's a big deal because your identity, guys who become cops, they always wanted to be a cop.
When they're a police officer, their identity is wrapped up in being a police officer.
So it's just human nature.
We can't ignore human nature.
That's what the founders understood.
It's like, hey, we're not saying they're bad people, but this is a bad incentive.
That's why it's better for you to have an elected sheriff and then a posse of you and your neighbors that he has to use when he needs manpower.
That's safer for you.
It's more likely that your neighbors together will say no because there's less pressure.
At least the fear of losing a paycheck is taken off the table.
So that's why it's superior.
So if you had a malicious system or a posse system around a sheriff, for example, and he had fewer deputies and had to rely on you to go and do something to your neighbors, you're going to have a situation where it's more likely that rights will be respected and they won't be violated for a paycheck.
That's a good point.
So what everyone nowadays thinks of, well, the militias, you don't even have a militia unless the government's being tyrannical.
Then you go raise a militia to stand up against the government.
That's actually upside down.
You fill the vacuum.
If you leave the vacuum, it would be filled with professionals.
You're going to get more professional police, and they will have that pressure to do what they're told because of the paycheck.
So you created this group and you created the Oath Keepers in 2009.
Do you have an idea of how many members in the country are Oath Keepers?
Our peak was about 40,000 active members at the peak during the bomb administration.
Of course, when Trump got elected, everyone, not everyone, but a massive number were like, oh, we won!
Everything's fine now.
Trump's going to fix everything.
And they all went back to sleep.
They're like the little fat frogs in the pot.
Yeah, I was wondering, where are they all?
Well, we're still active, but we lost a lot of people because a lot of them just went back to sleep.
Like, oh, I don't need to be enough people anymore.
But we won.
And that's very short-sighted.
Because Trump was a speed bump or an interruption in this steady plan.
And, you know, Michael Moore described Trump as a Molotov cocktail thrown at the establishment by the working class of the United States, by the Rust Belt people that lost all their jobs, like guys used to work in the GM plants, etc.
And I think he was, I mean, I never thought I'd agree with Michael Moore about anything, but he was right about that.
That's why.
People are like, oh, you know, Trump's a womanizer, he's uncouth, all this kind of stuff.
And people are like, you know what?
I don't care.
They're like, hey, he's a fighter.
He'll go in there and fight.
He told Hillary you'd be in jail if I was president.
So they want to throw a Molotov cocktail in there.
I think that's what Trump was for them.
Totally.
Yeah.
Now, did he live up to the promise?
And I'm going to just be blunt and say, no he didn't.
And I'm sure everyone's like, oh, well he was surrounded by bad guys, and that's certainly true.
But, there are things he did not do that he could have done.
And just, like, factual...
Like, he did not purge out his own DOJ. Like, look at January 6th.
William Barr went in there.
He was a globalist show from the beginning.
I knew that.
I didn't know that.
Everyone was like, oh no, William Barr is going to be a great patriot.
I knew he was because he was, back in the day, he had helped defend Lon Horiuchi, who was the FBI sniper.
That shot Vicki Weaver in the face and was going to be prosecuted in Idaho for murder and then Bill Barr was part of the team that got him off by having it transferred to federal jurisdiction and federal courts and then they exonerated him and let him go.
There was no trial.
They just dismissed the case.
So he was part of that.
That was the first red flag.
And you knew that from the beginning?
Oh, I knew that, yeah.
Second red flag is that he had been in favor, back in the day when he was an attorney general for the first time, in favor of the assault of this ban, in favor of magazine capacity bans, in favor of the Brady Bill, the background checks.
He was in favor of all that gun control.
And so a leper does not change his spots.
And in his confirmation hearing, during the Trump administration, he came out in favor of the same kind of crap.
In favor of red flag bills.
The ability just to take away your guns with no due process.
He's all about that.
So he's an anti-gunner and someone that had been part of covering up a murderer.
Right.
So, yeah.
I knew it was a globalist show from the beginning.
That's why it was so frustrating about all the Q people being like, oh no, Barr is this master strategist or whatever.
It's like, no.
Here's what they did to Trump.
They did to him exactly what was done to Reagan.
They surrounded him by globalist rhinos who contained him and ran out the clock.
That's what they were there to do.
And Barr was part of that.
But so was Ray and the FBI. I couldn't believe he let him just sit there.
When Ray was put in after Sessions left, not Sessions, he was the first FBI director.
I can't remember his name now.
What was the name?
I can't remember.
I can't remember either.
But here's the point.
At the end, the coup was prosecuting Trump's own supporters after January 6th.
Ray and the FBI, and then what was the other guy's name in the DOJ? He was the acting attorney general.
Yeah, Chris something.
He just did the interview on 60 Minutes.
I'm blanking out.
So you've got two people.
These are the ones who have been going after Trump supporters with a vengeance in this massive purge who did nothing.
Along with Barr, did nothing about Antifa and BLM rampaging across the United States, burning down cities, murdering people, assaulting people left and right, terrorizing people, you know, terrorism, legit terrorism, exercising force, using force to suppress political opinions.
So we were up against Antifa on the streets for years.
12 Trump rallies in a row, because if we didn't go out there to protect people, they were going to get beaten by Antifa on the street.
And nothing was done.
And yet, after January 6th, they're going after everybody that entered the building, even some that didn't enter the building.
They're going after them with a vengeance.
And I just heard they're going after the Attorney General of Texas, Ken Paxton now.
So it's a massive purge.
But it's being done by men who Trump left in place during his administration.
It's not like all the Trump guys left when Trump left and these are new Obama people.
No, these are the same ones he left in there.
I think that's the most frustrating thing is because you get a lot of people saying, oh, well, Trump was just surrounded by bad people and gave bad advice.
Whose fault is that?
Exactly.
He failed to purge, even to the very last minute, he didn't purge the turncoats, the globalists, the deep staters in the FBI and the DOJ. He didn't fire any DOJ, as far as I know, any U.S. attorneys.
When Obama got in, he fired every single U.S. attorney except one.
That one guy that became part of the staff attorneys for the White House.
They left him in there.
Right.
And even, you know, Biden's more cutthroat than Trump actually has been.
Anyone who had any loyalties to Trump, he's cutting.
He's cutting.
Even military.
That's right.
Look at the purge going on inside the DOJ now.
It's a massive purge.
It's a Stalinistic-style purge.
Yeah.
But Trump had the freedom to do that, and he didn't do it.
No.
Yeah, Obama did it.
He purged out a lot of patriot generals and promoted a lot of, you know, social justice warrior identity politics, you know, Marxist, basically, into higher positions.
And that's who's, his current Secretary of Defense is one of them, you know.
But then when, this is what happens, when the left gets in, they purge the right, they put their people in.
When the Republicans get in, they're nice guys.
They don't purge anybody.
They leave all those leftists in the positions of power and supposedly try to work with them.
And they get undermined and undercut and stymied all the whole time they're in.
And then when they're gone, they put more leftists in.
And then they purge out any Republicans they might have missed.
Exactly.
It makes you wonder, are the Republicans in leadership actually Republicans?
They're surrender monkeys.
Or is it just one...
Two sides of the same coin.
Is it just good cop, bad cop?
I think that's certainly true for some of them.
I think McConnell, for example, is a classic example of that.
Or the governor of Georgia.
Or, hey, Abbott here in Texas.
You got another one.
He's turned into a rhino.
Oh, totally.
So, when it comes to the big picture stuff, like the COVID-19 You know, medical 9-11 and the vaccine and all that, you're seeing...
I think Abbott's a classic example of that.
A total turncoat.
So what other...
I share your frustrations with Trump, and you believed in him because of a reason, right?
Well, there's two things he...
This is a big red flag for me about him, is one, with the border, he could have used the U.S. military.
You know, either he was duped in believing he couldn't or he didn't want to for some reason, was afraid to or whatever, but he had absolute authority as the commander-in-chief and the duty to defend this nation.
He could have used the U.S. military.
You know, you could have done the same exact thing that was done by President Wilson after Pancho Villa raided across the border and killed people in New Mexico, killed American citizens and U.S. soldiers.
You could have militarized the border.
I mean, the border used to be defended by a line of forts.
It was the U.S. Army on the border, traditionally, up until the creation of the Border Patrol.
So they had absolute authority to do that.
There was a precedent.
There was Joint Task Force 6 back in the 90s in the boot heel of New Mexico where they took a combined force of National Guard, U.S. Army, U.S. Marine Corps, and Border Patrol and sealed off an entire section of the border with active patrolling on foot and helicopters going overhead and quick reaction forces that were helicopter-borne, and they shut it down.
So it can be effective.
The troops can be done.
And why not use them on the border?
Hey, make that part of your training.
Make that part of your AIT, and then after that, your unit training.
Just go deploy on the border, get some experience on the border, do an observation and intervention against your hotels.
Why not?
And then after that Mormon church was slaughtered down in Mexico, there were American citizens living in Mexico, women and children slaughtered by the cartels in a horrific massacre.
The cartels are military enemies who are actually an international terrorist organization and an international narcotics organization that have infiltrated U.S. soil and they were killing U.S. citizens.
So he could have said, hey, they're an international military enemy.
Mexico is a failed state, which it is.
The first hundred miles of Mexico on the border of the United States has failed.
Mexican government does not control that.
It's controlled by the cartels.
So they'll just say, hey, look, I'll do respect to Mexico, but you don't control this land.
The cartels do.
It's like Afghanistan.
It's like the Taliban in Afghanistan.
It's like the American version of the Taliban.
They're slaughtering women and children, putting them into sex slavery.
They're trafficking women and children across the border for pedophiles.
We're putting a stop to this.
And why not bring the military in and do that?
It could have waged war in the cartels and cleaned them out.
He's done the Mexican people a great service by doing that.
So he didn't do any of that.
He didn't even put the military on the border to protect our line, let alone go across the border and take out the cartels.
So I'm like, well, why is he not doing that?
And it's like, after a while, it's like, hey, you know, it's like Horton hears a who.
Can I ever get him to listen to me?
And I wasn't the only one saying this.
Like, you need to use the military.
There's no other way.
You can't go hat in hand to Congress asking them to give you permission to go down there and seal the border off.
That's what they convinced him to do, right?
No, they're not going to give it to you.
So it's like, no, I have an independent duty as a commander-in-chief under Article 2 to go do my responsible duty to defend the country, period.
He should have done that.
He could have done that.
So why didn't he do it?
Don't know.
He's not a dumb man, and that's why people say, oh, he was just naive and everything, but I'm like, he was on The Apprentice, and he was used to saying, you're fired, you're fired.
I mean, that was the whole thing.
Like, something doesn't work for him, you're fired, and being cutthroat, and you're going to tell me that he's that dumb, that for four years he's going to be naive about things that, I don't know.
It's bothering me.
I do know that, like, when they bring him down to the wall, they bring him down to San Diego, where there really is some wall...
It's legit.
It's like, you know, tiered levels of fencing and wall.
It's pretty good.
It's been there for a long time.
They show him that, and they take him to a place where there's some wall, and here's some new sections, and it could be that he doesn't realize that there's this massive 3,000-mile section that's not like that.
That's wide open, you know?
So I don't know.
You know, who knows?
I don't know, but a lot of these moves were questionable.
How do you feel he did on COVID this past year?
Awful.
Yeah.
I mean, just the other day I was watching the Laura Ingraham interview last night.
It was great that he finally came out and said that the Trump supporters who were arrested are being persecuted and they were harmless.
Oh, he said that finally?
He did that last night.
That was good.
So that's good.
I'm going off of what I know he has the power to do as commander in chief.
That's what I have to judge him on.
And it's not an opinion, it's a fact.
I think it's fair because it's what I would judge any president on.
The border is an existential crisis for this country.
If you don't have a secure border, you will not have a country.
I mean, he said it himself many times.
So you have to do it.
And this is why, what's her name?
What is her name?
Oh, now I'm drawing a blank.
She was a huge Trump supporter that she dumped him.
Oh, Ann Coulter.
Ann Coulter.
Yeah.
She was right.
She's like, wait a minute.
This is what he ran on?
This is a huge thing he ran on, and he's not doing it.
And if he were, if someone on The Apprentice was hired by him to go and do this, this, and this, and then they didn't do that, what would he do with them?
He'd fire them.
Yeah, hey, I don't want to hear excuses.
You said you were going to do it.
I hired you to do it.
You said you could, and you would.
I hired you to do it, then you didn't do it.
Of course, everyone would be like, well, you know, but all these other reasons why.
No, he's the Commander-in-Chief.
He has plenary authority as Commander-in-Chief to use his war powers.
The President is at a zenith of authority when he claims he's doing so pursuant to his war powers.
Now, actually, He's at the zenith of his powers when he is claiming to use his war powers with the permission of Congress.
With the consent and permission of Congress.
Congress passed statutes making it illegal to cross into the United States, right?
You have a certain way to do it, otherwise it's illegal.
The president has an obligation and duty to enforce those laws.
He's also, as a commander-in-chief, defending our nation.
And he has broad authority to do that.
They've given him broad authority as well to make those determinations, use military force on the border.
That's where he has his authority.
So if he really wanted to do it, he could have done it.
He absolutely could have done.
Now, would they have filed court cases?
Of course.
He'd have fought it out in the courts, but hey, reviewing it, the courts would have been like, well, probably would have been like, hey, he has his authority.
And even if the courts were corrupt and tried to shoot it down, he still had that responsibility to at least try.
He never tried.
So that's one.
COVID. Just the other day, he's bragging to Laurie Ingraham about how he got the vaccine fast-tracked.
I cringe when I'm watching this.
It's like, doesn't he understand people are dying from the so-called vaccine?
Does he understand the risks?
Does he understand what's happening in other countries?
There are other countries that are banning it and declining to use it.
You've got military service members who are refusing to take it because they know what's doing to people.
And he's still touting it as some kind of victory that he got a fast track.
All he did is help them to speed up the process of administering an untested drug, experimental drug, on the American people.
There's not even a vaccine.
It's almost like he's become the biggest salesman for vaccines and Gabby and Bill Gates because every day he's pushing it.
The vaccine, the medical miracle.
He even said, conservatives, go out and get your shots.
He's not stupid.
Is he tone deaf?
Does he not realize that the majority of his base now sees right through the so-called vaccine and realizes it's dangerous?
I have to assume that he just didn't take the time to look into it.
He just doesn't, apparently he's just playing golf and not watching like Catherine Austin's business videos or what's the other, the doctor we watched last night.
So you don't think he's possible that he's maybe in on it or he's late?
I don't know.
I don't know either.
It's frustrating.
I think it just goes to...
His ego.
Yeah, I think it goes to ego.
He doesn't want to admit he made a mistake.
He doesn't want to admit he got duped.
He doesn't want to admit that he was so focused on being re-elected, and hey, if you don't do this, you're not going to get re-elected.
I think that was his whole focus.
And he doesn't want to believe that he made a mistake.
That's what I think.
So I think every man's got his flaws.
I got mine too.
Everyone's got flaws.
I think one of his flaws is, is his ego.
He doesn't want to admit he made a mistake.
He can't just wrap his head around how he was outmaneuvered at every turn and used.
That's what I think.
I don't think he's a bad actor with bad intent.
I just don't think he's letting himself see it.
How could Trump not know about that?
I just don't think he's dumb.
I don't know.
I don't want to think the worst.
I think he's a clever businessman, but I think that...
I've been the biggest Trump supporter since day one, but his actions the past year have really happened.
I'm confused.
And I don't want to think the worst, like, was he deep state all along?
Was he in on it?
I don't want to think so.
No, I don't think so.
It's definitely, definitely, his actions have been really bad the last year.
You know, really, really weird.
Right.
I think, to be blunt, I think he's a good businessman, but doesn't understand the Constitution, doesn't really understand medicine, doesn't bother to go understand and learn it.
I think he's just thinking he can just fly by his gut and use his, you know, his business savvy.
And that's why he got railroaded and manipulated and outsmarted at every turn.
4D chest?
No friggin' way.
No.
No.
Then there's the Q plan.
He's a good businessman.
And I give him on that.
On foreign policy, he did some good stuff with trade deals and all that.
On that, he's sharp.
But he got played big time with COVID. He got played big time with the border stuff.
I think he got played with everything else.
And as far as draining the swamp, he got outmaneuvered every turn.
The swamp drained him.
Yeah, exactly.
Really sad, but true.
I mean, he said that he was draining the swamp, the swamp drain him.
And this, I started noticing a shift during COVID. I was like, oh my God, it seems like they've got him by the balls.
Because then he started saying, you know, wear your mask.
Masks are patriotic.
And the shutdowns and lockdowns, it all just seemed like, you know, in Dr.
Fauci every day, it's like, oh my God, do they have him by the balls or what?
Well, he wanted to win.
I think he was focused on the campaign.
It's the same reason why.
Number three, he didn't use the Insurrection Act.
When they were burning down cities, an open insurrection, declared insurrection to overthrow the U.S. government, declaring no borders, no wall, no USA at all, declaring sovereign territory of Chaz, doing the same thing in Atlanta.
Taking over police precincts in Minneapolis, multiple examples of taking territory in the United States and declaring it to be independent, sovereign, like socialist or communist or anarchist territory.
And he didn't do anything about that.
He could have set the National Guard, he could have federalized the National Guard and set them out there under the Insurrection Act and suppressed that rebellion.
He could have called us up, all the military veterans and brought us up as a militia as well, full authority to do that.
He didn't do any of that.
I've called it for him to do that multiple, multiple times.
You have to suppress this interaction.
You know, he didn't refuse to see the big picture.
We are facing a communist takeover of our nation.
You are the one last, final stop of a peaceful, traditional or conventional political solution.
You're the commander-in-chief.
You've managed to, and I said this back when he was elected in 2016, What happened is he overwhelmed their steal.
The Trump turnout, the vote for Trump was so big, they cheated, but they didn't cheat enough.
And we overwhelm their cheating.
And I knew that back then.
I knew from years ago that electronic voting is manipulable and all the illegal voting and all that.
So they did cheat.
We knew that.
But they didn't cheat enough.
And so I knew, though, that they won't make that mistake again.
This time they're going to cheat enough.
And that's why I told people it's going to happen.
So they're going to cheat.
They're going to double down and make sure they cheat enough this time.
No matter what we do, they're going to take it and steal it.
I predicted that.
And that was, unfortunately, correct.
So, and same thing.
He was focused on foreign affairs.
I think China let him have victories there because, oh, let him go look at this shiny thing over here.
All the while, we set up the steel methodically, you know?
That's heartbreaking.
It is.
And COVID, of course, was the perfect vehicle for all the exceptions to the normal rules, right?
It's the perfect excuse for everything.
I mean, the steal, the mail-in ballots, that was successfully pulled off.
And then the lockdowns and the destruction of the economy, the destruction of everything.
And again, I guess a lot of people say, well, it's not his fault because it was up to the governors and mayors.
But at some point...
It's not true, though.
Because what happened is, as soon as...
The COVID crisis started not too long after when he stepped out and created this panel with Fauci on it.
They issued guidelines that were published on the DHS website, guidelines for the states, about which businesses should be considered essential and which ones should not.
Those were DHS guidelines.
He didn't mandate them, but he published DHS guidelines that The state's been adopted and used.
That's where the first articulation of essential and non-essential came from, was those DHS guidelines from the Trump administration.
So, you can't say that it's only on the government.
He set it up, this paradigm of essential and non-essential.
Of course, Walmart's essential.
Home Depot's essential.
Lowe's is essential.
You know, all the big chains were not essential.
Walmart stores are not essential.
What a surprise, right?
It's the final destruction of small-town mainstream America.
Local, resilient.
Those are the final assaults that would wipe us out.
And keep playing right into it.
Where'd that come from?
Uncle Fauci.
There's someone up there in the whole panel.
He went right along with it.
That's what pissed me off.
And he declared the state of emergency, which that state of emergency was the one that allowed the governors to have those powers.
And he kept renewing it, right?
Well, it's a federal state of emergency, but what it did is it set the precedent in the local government.
So you have Republican governors, like Abbott, a lot of Democrat governors, taking those recommendations from DHS. Making their own declaration of emergency and real powers, but burying those guidelines and using it.
So like for example here in Texas, Abbott shut down almost everything, except the Big Bob Starks.
They were all over.
We all saw that.
So you can't say that they used the declaration of emergency in the federal law.
They just used it for their own emergency.
But it gave him political cover.
I totally didn't write about that.
He gave globalists...
Multiple gifts, big gift baskets with all kinds of goodies in them.
You know?
You can do whatever you want under COVID. Hey, oh, you want to inject American people with an experimental drug that hasn't even been tested?
I will make sure that happens in my life.
Yeah, but he's knowingly doing that, but he's so focused on how to get it real life to.
And oh, they're criticizing me because I'm going to get this done, because I'm going to make sure I get it done.
And now he's still brightening about it.
I think he's as blissfully helpful.
I don't even know why he would think that strategy would get him re-elected.
Because I think his people were from Tokyo.
And he takes that advice still?
I mean, say they were in his ear saying, this is going to get you re-elected if you go along with the COVID stuff.
Everyone's going to die and you should do this.
You should shut down the government.
You can't, but it's to his credit.
You didn't try to give up.
It's just to his credit.
Gotta say you lose it.
When the Constitution came back, he had no authority to shut down.
You could shut down.
Yeah, 14 days to slow this spread.
Yeah, two weeks to flatten the curve.
A year later.
Yeah, here we are, a year later.
But hey, those DHS guidelines, federal coverage guidelines, So Trump had the ability to go in there and seize the files and dump it all out in the streets and show everybody who's dirty.
And then he could have invoked the Insurrection Act and gone after those who had been, you know, committing treason with foreign governments like China because they were compromised and doing the bidding of the Chinese.
We co-authored, towards the end there, we co-authored two open letters to Obama.
You can find it on the website.
Not to Obama, to Trump, on the website of Oath Keepers, saying, hey, even though it's after the election, even though this is more difficult for you, To defend, because now you'll be perceived as only doing it to stay in power, you need to still do this.
Still do the declassification, because that blows it all out.
If you declassify and expose all their criminality, now they can't accuse you of illegitimately trying to hold on to power.
Like, no, here's the dirt on you people.
He needed a right-hand man that was going to tell him the truth about what's going on in his own staff.
And he didn't have that.
Pence, from day one, another one I knew from day one was another globalist shill.
I knew Pence was going to stab him in the back.
There's no way.
I didn't know that.
Because Pence, back in the day, was in favor of the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
He was all in favor of that.
That's why I knew he was a globalist.
But he also was in favor of red flag bills.
He gave a symposium in Indiana, because Indiana has a red flag bill, named after a killed police officer, a slain police officer, of course.
That's how they get it passed.
But he gave a symposium there advocating that Indiana's red flag bill should be the model for the country and for federal legislation and for all the other states to copy.
So I knew he was a bad guy back then.
This was a couple years ago.
He never rubbed me the right way because I always thought that there was just something really disingenuous about him and I'm like, I don't know.
I don't get him.
He always seems to be a little salesy to me.
You can't hire from inside the swamp and expect them to fight the swamp.
Right.
You need outsiders.
He should have.
I think he should have done the declassification, vote the Insurrection Act, and went and had a new election held.
That's what he should have done.
Because this was a legal constitutional option for him to do the Insurrection Act, right?
I mean, it was...
Yeah.
It would have been warranted.
It would have been...
Only if he could prove the evidence.
Now, when they were burning down cities in the summer...
Hmm.
Absolutely.
That's got nothing to do with an election.
That's nothing to do with just wild, in-your-face insurrection declared attempts to overthrow the U.S. government and destroy our country.
Clear case of invoking the Insurrection Act.
Now, he didn't do so because I'm sure he was convinced that if you did that, you'd be painted as a dictator and you might lose the election.
I think the overriding flaw of Trump, or you can call it inexcusable, is he put his own re-election first, above all else, and it clouded his thinking, and it clouded his judgment.
But the funny thing, the ironic thing is, I think it was backwards, because his base, if he would have, let's say, exposed the truth about COVID, that it's just a sham, it's based on...
He was wildly popular.
Alright, so what are your thoughts on the interview so far?
What do you think about him?
Do you think he's real?
Do you think he's a patriot?
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