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May 16, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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BESIEGED BY BIDEN’S BROWNS: Brimelow Condemns Migrant Invasion as Plot to Replace Whites
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Edward Zoll.
Tonight, we are going to tackle the immigration invasion.
And it is that.
We should be deploying M1 Abram tanks on the border instead of sending them to be destroyed by the glorious Russian army.
I tell you this, we are going to go into some topics that you're going to want to re-watch.
I probably would say this episode is one for the ages.
All this and more tonight on Crosstalk News.
Welcome to Crosstalk News.
I'm your host, Edward Zoll.
Tonight, I've got something very special for you.
There are experts in many different fields.
I could have invited on one of the migrants that's invading this country, or, and better, I've invited on someone who has demonstrated not just an expertise, But I care about the future of this nation when it comes to our immigration policy.
Now that term, it's so nebulous now.
Legal immigration.
Honestly, if it's not for sex trafficking or again to rig the vote, immigration no longer is about developing a nation, replenishing the nation after a war or a downturn.
Instead, it is a weaponization against the very identity that built the Western Hemisphere.
To speak on this topic and much, much more, it's my distinct pleasure to invite in Peter Brimlow, the editor of vdare.com.
Welcome to Crosstalk News, Mr.
Brimlow.
It is a pleasure to speak with you once again.
Thanks for having me on, Matt.
I wish that we could be joining each other under better circumstances.
The country has decided to not go the direction of an immigration monitorium and instead has gone full-blown into the policy of invasion.
I'm sure you've been paying attention to what's happening on the border.
It's far worse than migrants just coming across.
We have a war that's literally erupted on our border, and the government doesn't seem to be doing much about it.
What do you think about the current response from the government?
Well, the government is doing something about it.
The government's actually actively promoting it about the Biden administration.
You know, I mean, it has always been clear that if they got the chance, they would, you know, elect a new people by just bringing in Maybe as many as 7 million illegals since Biden got in.
They just intend to get them in.
They intend to amnesty them.
They just intend to outvote the Americans they have here because they don't like the America they have.
They want to create a new one.
Well, certainly the white replacement is very real.
I just got back from Toronto.
I was up there for a conference with many of the founders and the organizers of the trucking convoy that shut down Toronto and was fighting against the mandates.
And speaking to the people there, Peter, one, I had a different point of view with Canada.
I didn't really, when I was thinking about it, maybe you're obviously a man who's well-read, so you probably didn't think of it the way I was thinking about it.
I just thought Canada was represented by Justin Trudeau and the big cities.
And in actuality, I went around in the rural areas.
It's much like the North Midwest.
A lot of families, much like what I grew up with in Iowa and the heartland of our country, They were telling me these estimates might be off, but maybe not that much off.
A million immigrants are being brought in a year.
And it is changing.
I lived in Canada for 10 years.
The government there is absolutely determined.
And they're doing it through legal immigration.
It's absolutely determined to completely displace the Canadian population.
But as a rule of thumb, you have to multiply by 10 to get the equivalent of You know, in American terms.
So that's equivalent to bringing in 10 million immigrants into the US. Now, actually, it turns out that the Biden administration is getting really right up there right now.
I think they had two or three million illegals last year.
But it's still, and it's absolutely colossal.
It's a fantastic transformation of the society there.
And, of course, they're all overwhelmingly non-wide, which is completely new.
And I lived in Toronto in 1970, in 1970 to 2003.
It was a completely white city.
Now it's majority non-white and that's all been done for public policy.
We didn't even want to go downtown.
I'm always in a very unique situation because I immigrated from England to America.
I work around a lot of very common sense, very hearted people, Christians.
I'm a Catholic now and I'm looking at this situation.
I'm driving through Toronto and there's ethnic music on all the channels.
I tried to stop to ask for directions and no one spoke English.
It's insane, right?
As an American, I'm looking down here at Florida.
It's a landing zone for many migrants.
And you mentioned a term, this legal migration crap.
And that's what it is.
There is a term that the Republicans are trying to pitch to the Biden administration right now that we need to have a common sense immigration policy with legal migration.
Well, as we're seeing, this doesn't prioritize, actually, it de-incentivizes white migration, maybe a lot of very, very high IQ and productive people from Europe and other places or the inherent population.
The inherent population here seems to be getting crushed.
And I know this is a topic that you've been on in about 30 years, 40 years, really.
Your entire career has been somewhat on this topic.
Well, the second half of it, I wrote a book about immigration policy in 1995 that came out of a cover story from the National Review in 1992.
And there was a brief, sharp civil war in the Conservative movement about immigration in the 90s.
And we were basically saying, look, this could be very bad and we have to stop it.
But the Republican establishment and the Neoconserties prevailed and we were purged from National Review.
It took us nearly another 20 years to get the issue into public debate again.
The fascinating thing about immigration, legal immigration, most of my career was in financial journalism.
If you look at, there's a ton of technical literature on this subject and immigration does not benefit the native-born at all.
It does increase the GDP, the gross domestic product, but all that is captured by the immigrants themselves and the wages.
The native born are basically no better off for it, except for the owners of capital.
Essentially, what it does is it shifts income from labour to capital.
Quite a large amount, about 2-3% of GDP. So this explains why corporations and country club Republicans are in favor of immigration.
But the workers are just getting it in the ear.
As you know, wages have stagnated in this country for more than 30 years, actually ever since the Immigrant Immigration Act of 765 kicked in and started the great influx after a 40-year pause.
Well, we're both business owners.
We know that the cost of living for our workers has gone through the roof, and certainly the buying power is greatly diminished.
And what you just shared is very important.
I have tons of conversations with people who consider themselves to be Republican voters or conservatives, and they would vote for someone like President Trump and did vote for him in 2016.
They don't quite understand that contrast of what you just laid out, that even though the economy might be, quote, booming, the GDP is up, and you feel like, wow, our country is doing amazing.
Ultimately, sometimes, and actually in statistical reality, that does not translate to the native population.
It's very important, and that's important because of IQ, right?
We're talking about what this country can strive toward.
That's limited if our national IQ is dropped by this influx, which is generating money.
But on that subject, with our immigration policy, we don't control it right now.
And for many, that's a little bit discouraging.
I try not to get discouraged about anything.
I'm a very optimistic fellow.
I was telling you before the interview, I'm kind of elated today.
I'm an uncle.
I'm happy to keep fighting, whatever it looks like.
They'll never beat us.
They'll never crush my mind and your mind.
But on this subject, what would you advise the Republicans, and especially activists like me and Lauren, to do in a country where they're not listening at all to common sense?
Well, obviously the first thing to do is Biden should be impeached.
The Republicans can control Congress.
What are they waiting for?
It doesn't actually matter whether or not they succeed in convicting him or even getting impeachment through the House because I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of A useless writer of Republicans who are too cowardly to do it.
The point is to get the debate public on what's going on.
And if possible, you know, to get inquiries into trying to subpoena the government, the administration's documents on what they were planning here.
Because it's quite obvious they did plan this.
They obviously intended to, you know, open the borders as soon as he got, he was inaugurated.
So it would be interesting to see discussions on what their rationale was in terms of internal conversations about it.
I think they would show that they have exceptionally, explicit anti-American motives for what they're doing.
In terms of policy, you know, it's all very simple.
You just have to have an immigration moratorium, which means no net immigration.
The gross immigration could be like two, three, four hundred thousand years ago because quite a lot of people leave the country every year.
And then end birthright citizenship, so this great influx of illegals that's come in won't be able to have children here who will become citizens.
Of course, the Democrats aim to amnesty all these illegals, so they'll all be able to vote anyway.
But even if they can't amnesty them, when they have children, those children will all be able to vote.
And that's going to be prevented.
They've got to be kept out of the political nation.
Also, of course, there should be a systematic effort of deportation.
Now, Trump, to give him credit, is talking about deportation.
I don't see that anybody else is.
But, you know, in the 1950s, there was a somewhat similar illegal immigration crisis.
I say somewhat similar because the numbers were nowhere near as large as they are now, but they were large.
And when Eisenhower came in, he started his Operation Wetback.
I was about to say, that's the official name.
And they moved a million and a half people out of the country.
They didn't actually have to physically deport many of them.
They deported about 100,000, but the others got the message in that.
And that's what happened here.
And in fact, it did happen after Trump was elected.
The immigrant workforce population actually shrank dramatically because a lot of these people believed the Democrats propaganda and thought they were all going to be deported so they left.
And that could happen again.
So those are the essential things.
Immoratorium and birthright citizenship deportations.
Well, I think these are very realistic goals.
A first step, I think, for much of what we do as both journalists and outspoken, freedom-loving, and mainly Christian activists, is that we're trying to not compromise anymore.
We've tried this whole notion that all we have to do is win back the House.
As you noted, we have the ability to impeach right now, today.
And we were told, hey, Don't fight us on the speaker race.
Just let Kevin McCarthy go in there, okay?
Don't be stick in the muds and hold this up.
We're going to use our power in the committees and, of course, in the House to do things like impeach and hold the purse strings of Congress to actually put some pressure and enact change.
I'm not disappointed in the sense of the fact that they didn't do any of that.
What I am very excited about, in our state specifically, we are holding our politicians to the fire.
I've had some very fiery conversations even this past weekend down at the Doral.
There was a Reawaken America tour held by a fellow named Clay Clark.
A lot of the, I would say, the up-and-coming conservative firebrands, people running for office and such, they know that we need an immigration monitorium.
And I'll tell you, there's a very interesting thing I ran into.
There was a young fellow from Cuba that was working for President Trump, and he drove us from the hotel to the conference area.
And what he described to me, Peter, was a funnel, the way of which he made it from Cuba to Florida, working for President Trump at his estate.
And it was that he literally flew into a South American country and then he traveled north.
And then got asylum at the board.
He said he thinks he got a version of political asylum or they might have just let him in.
And then they were gracious enough to pay for an airplane ticket for him to fly into Miami, which is then how he was able to go get a job.
And while I say this, I do appreciate him working, right?
Because some don't even bother to do that.
But it was very odd.
I'm talking to him like, so you're an illegal immigrant.
Do you understand?
I don't know how many people took the ride and didn't even think twice about it, but on this subject specifically, Immigration Moratorium, yes.
And I know that in the past you've tried to get candidates to sign a petition or a pledge.
Have there been new candidates, especially people trying to run in 2024, that have said they were open and actually very supportive of signing this pledge?
You know, in 2022 there were a number of candidates who ran on Immigration Moratorium.
I don't know that any of them were actually elected.
It was at least issued servicing.
Here in West Virginia, and as you know, and I'm here at the Berkeley Springs Castle in the Eastern Panhandle of West Virginia, but there is a candidate in Southern West Virginia who's running on the immigration maritime issue, and he actually is a J6 victim.
He was convicted and spent some months in jail because of his Participation in the most peaceful protests on January 6th.
He had been a state assemblyman and he resigned.
I have to find out why he resigned.
Obviously I don't think she had done that.
But anyway, he's running his act explicitly on an immigration moratorium.
And that's particularly interesting because here in West Virginia we're not impacted by immigration very much.
This is still a 95% white state.
Which is pretty much where America was in 1965 when the Immigration Act passed.
Well, you're mostly white at the moment until Republican governors like Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott decide to try to own the Democrats of the left by shipping migrants from the exterior to the interior of the country.
The big danger here is the refugee statute because Biden is bringing in, I think, 125,000 refugees this year.
And what they do is they have these NGOs, these quasi-private entities like Catholic Charities and so on, and they'll find towns like Berkeley Springs, West Virginia, and just import a whole bunch of Somalis here, or something like that.
That's what they did in Maine, of course, Lewiston, Maine.
They just transformed this city in the heart of Maine into a Somali ghetto.
And they're using these things as targeted blockbusting, really.
They targeted Immigration injections into Red States of America to try and take it over.
And it's always boggled me when I hear the stories of Catholic charities, you know, supporting that in some form or manner.
I know there's many of those stories on the border.
I've been down to Texas and I've spoken to pastors and priests and people who are fighting the immigration or at least trying to...
This is the craziest thing, right?
The people that wake up every day, ranchers, and they do a patrol of the perimeter to see if, A, there's anyone that has died on their property, or B, worse, if there's an armed encampment of cartel members who are transporting some of these people.
I mean, it's an active war zone.
And to what we're talking about here, again, I see what you're seeing, that this is a facilitated invasion.
Because part of the Biden plan that they've offered is that, oh, well, if we catch them at the border, they'll be banned for five years from coming up.
But we're now going to have processing centers set up.
We're going to pay for government officials to be in a Central American, a South American country.
And they then are going to help the immigrants with their paperwork.
They'll fly just directly from that processing center, not to the border anymore, but to Miami or Chicago or New York.
You see all these coordinated headlines this morning in the way that the regime media works now saying that, in fact, the rush at the border when they abolished the time of 41 was not as extensive as they expected.
But what's happened is they've simply started to put all other men.
So people don't have to cross the border, they just go to the ports of entry.
Parole was supposed to be for individual cases if people had a disease that needed to operate against Saudi Arabia.
It was supposed to be on a case-by-case basis.
The Biden regime has paroled over a million people into the country.
And they basically invented a new form of immigration piece without having to go through Congress.
So what they're doing now is, we see the border now, is they're not coming in through the window as much, just because the door's up.
They're coming in through the door, they've been legalised.
Well, I think one of the toughest...
Legal is the wrong word, but they're authorized to enter.
Well, they've kind of destroyed the language a little bit, right, because they have a new term.
It's illegal immigration.
I've heard it like a thousand times, okay?
Legal immigration, legal immigration.
Now, what they want is unchecked immigration, which they're going to pawn off as a version of legal immigration.
It's changing the identity of this country, which is ironic for several reasons, I suppose, we're talking about.
Me, you know, I'm an Indian-Polish guy who's come to this country as a Brit.
And then second, we're both British people that came here as expats in this sense.
You obviously have a very esteemed career.
You've spent time in Canada and of course you're now in West Virginia.
Very beautiful country and place by the way.
You have a very nice home and family.
And I would say to this, we look at this and I know part of the problem is we don't have control of it.
And I know you and I, our families at least, we fled Europe in a sense.
We left and we're now here.
I know Russia just opened up a very interesting visa program.
I'm not sure if you saw this.
It was a program where they're trying to appeal to the persecuted right.
People like J6ers, Christians and others that are feeling persecution in this country.
And they're offering visas to enter the country.
Would you ever consider taking a country up on it, whether it's not Russia, maybe Italy or somewhere else?
I went to a great deal of trouble to get there.
And so I don't want to move.
Again, I think it should just damn well be what it was when I got here in 1970.
Amen.
I'm there with you.
I think that it's, again, a very conciliatory position for us to say, well, we have no control and we're going to flee.
I do think when it comes to fighting here, one of the first things we have to do is to stop the inflow.
I know that some people, I won't say they've taken it to their own hands, but there are several pseudo-private groups that have gone down to the border.
They are definitely right-wing.
Some have former military.
Some have backing from congressional delegations.
And they are, quote, monitoring.
They're monitoring and confronting armed cartel patrols.
It's a very interesting situation.
I know you're a man of history.
You're well-read.
It reminds me a little bit of the skirmishes along the border between Scotland and England in the 1280s, 1290s.
It led to a full-blown war and an invasion of Scotland, but we are experiencing that.
It's not hyperbolic.
The cartels are skinning people.
They're shipping all kinds of drugs in, and I know the one position I hear quite a bit is correct.
We don't know who's coming in through the border.
It's the same talking port for 2016, but it's the same issue, right?
What would you say to those folks who've gone down there?
You mentioned the cartels.
I actually think corruption, the more I think about it, I think just financial corruption is an issue with the Biden administration.
And not just financial corruption, but also sexual corruption.
One of the things they're doing with the border here is they're bringing in all kinds of kids that can be involved in child sex rooms and so on.
And frankly, the kind of people who run the Biden administration, I think that appeals to them.
They're interested in payoffs and they're interested in, you know, prostitution, basically.
I mean, that's who they are.
So there are a lot of motives to, you know, facilitate this inflow, even apart from the electromultiple, although I think that's actually a decisive thing.
They want to just primarily lock in a majority.
Are you familiar with the power of the sheriff in America?
I know that Sheriff Arpaio, he was exercising really, in a lot of ways, demonstrating the power of the constitutional elected sheriff and in controlling migration and deterring it in a lot of ways.
Because sometimes you don't have to expel all the people or to expel or stop the complete inflow.
You just have to make an example, right?
What would you say to sheriffs?
Like some sheriffs are watching this and saying, maybe I can do something.
That's true, but the problem is that under Obama, now under Biden, the Department of Justice spends a great deal of time trying to suppress that kind of thing.
As you know, the governor of Arizona actually built his own wall out of shipping containers and they forced him to dismantle it.
And what's the point of that exactly?
I think they said it was on federal land or something, but it was a wall and it did work, but of course that's the problem, they don't want the walls to work, they don't want people to defend themselves.
Well, sure.
We've learned quite a bit.
We've learned quite a bit in the last year.
This notion that we just simply couldn't afford a border wall, right?
It's just absolutely ridiculous.
We've spent $100 billion plus.
I think it's up to about $200 billion now, if you judge all the assets we've given to Ukraine.
We have money.
So then it does default back to what you said is that this was planned and a multi-generational plan to change the identity and the face of America and the West in general.
In respect to that, you have a lot of history on this.
Go ahead.
If you look at, there are similar things happening in every Western country.
In every Western country, governments suddenly decide to import completely non-traditional immigrants.
In very irregular ways.
It's not even that they're going through an immigration process.
There's just floods of people arriving, for example, in Britain, they're just crossing the channel.
And the government is stashing them in the towels and things all over the country.
It obviously has absolutely no intention whatever of ever throwing them out, even though it doesn't know who they are and doesn't know what they can do and everything.
It's happening in every Western country.
And the really disturbing thing, if you go to Ireland, where this thing is becoming very acute, The Irish government just passed this legislation, which is going to basically suppress any criticism of immigration.
If you're found to have certain documents criticising, you know, flyers and stuff criticising this immigration influx, you can be jailed for hate speech.
I mean, it's extraordinary totalitarian legislation they have in Ireland.
It's going to take them some time.
To get around the First Amendment.
They're working on it.
Oh, they certainly are.
The example of the hate speech law you're talking about, I was reading what Keith Woods was reporting about that, a very good Irish nationalist.
He's very informed on the subject, got a lot of coverage.
You know, the Times of London even picked it up, and I think a lot of Irish press were saying, okay, I think it was a member of Parliament, actually, had even gone after Keith on that.
I actually think that's completely backfired on them.
Because you can only tell in an errant population for so long to shut up and take it.
Well, what's happening now, which is particularly interesting, there is actually resistance in the streets of it.
Oh, wow.
There are people going and getting physical brawls with these migrants, immigrants, and so on.
And even cases are arsed where they burn down hotels and things that, you know, where these people have been stashed.
And that's very interesting.
In some respects, it reminds me, and this is a change in subject, it reminds me of what was going on in this country around about 2015.
It became obvious that what we then called the alt-right actually was capable of putting people into the streets to defend their meetings and so on.
And that really spooked the establishment.
They were really terrified.
And that's why they mugged them with sharks and that's why they were hunting them down in these extraordinary The prosecutions over January 6th, the protests.
They're just absolutely desperate to avoid, to suppress any signs of physical resistance to what's going on.
Well, I think in respect to that, they were unable to silence that very, very active group, even with the prosecutions, even though that was a chilling effect for a time.
I think I've personally witnessed kind of a revival among the American nationalists, you know, people like Nick Fuentes, for example.
You think about the Christian futurism, you know, now the term being coined.
Nick said something very interesting on one of his streams lately.
He said that one of the solutions potentially for the influx of migrants was that we should put yellow tags on their ears.
Once they come across, that's the compromise.
We'll put a tag on their ear, and then when they come in, if they ever try to rip it off, then they'll be, we'll see.
Hey, wait a minute.
You've got a tag hole on your air.
And this could be a way.
I mean, it's a careful thing, right?
Because we know that that technology would potentially be RFID. It'd be a bunch of things.
And some may make the philosophical argument a correct one at that, possibly, that that very technology could be turned on you and I, Peter, right?
I don't want my ear tagged, but I'm not crossing into a country illegally, right?
Okay?
So what do you think?
Ed, as you know, the reason we have this castle, we're in West Virginia, it isn't because we sat around thinking we want to move to West Virginia.
It's because we've been unable to hold conferences.
We've had 10, 12, 15 conferences canceled in the three or four years before COVID. And so my wife, Lydia, just got totally fed up with this.
And she found a venue where we're going to be able to have conferences.
You know, we're working on getting that going.
Of course, you know, it's not ideal.
We'd rather have conferences and be able to go to a conference of thousands of big cities and so on.
But we've got to work with what we've got.
And what we have is a conference spending two hours for the US capital.
We were hoping Nick would come here, actually.
He went to D.C. instead.
Oh, sure.
But I'm sure he'd be open to it.
And I think that, you know, respect to Nick and others, they're not giving up.
You know, sometimes it can be discouraging to just see mass immigration and no change to policy and your side of the political aisle kind of just colluding with the other side to flood out the native population.
But There certainly has been a revival among that base, and honestly contrary to the education.
The education, if it was effective, would have done the opposite.
It would have produced maybe a generation of people that would be very welcoming.
I think you're right.
I mean, the resilience of what we call generically distant ride has been quite remarkable.
I mean, it's been hit some very heavy blows.
And, you know, the personnel were very badly damaged by Charlottesville and then by the January 6th thing.
But they're still out there and they're still organising.
And of course the reason is that the objective circumstances are utterly terrible.
People provoked into this.
I mean, you know, it was possible if you were in New York City or one stage to shut your eyes towards going on the southern border.
Now there are 60,000 illegals dumped on New York City and consuming all the hostels and everything.
It's not possible to avoid anymore.
That's what ultimately causes the reaction.
Maybe you'll be able to speak on this.
I thought that the pandemic would lead to a very anti-immigration mindset in the country.
And what I mean simply is that the prospect of immigrants bringing in diseases, bringing in things that we don't want...
Even if it's ridiculous of a notion broadly that not everyone coming across is diseased, but still the mindset being that they could be a threat to us.
And because of the government's propaganda and the way they've enforced what they've done, I thought that even the other side would be like, hey, I don't want to accept this.
Do you think that's had an impact?
Do you think the left, for example, has become more hesitant to endorse a full-on migration to the interior?
No, they're completely berserk on this question.
It's actually paradoxical, I think, in that the effect of the Covid shutdown and also a lot of things Trump did on the border through executive actions actually radically reduced immigration in 2019 and 2020.
And the foreign workforce population again began to fall.
In 2019, which is a remarkable thing.
And it did have the effect of boosting wages for Americans in the lower wage rate.
Now, of course, that's all gone away now.
But the thing was, because immigration, it appears to be seen as an issue, people weren't seeing it as much.
It didn't feature in the 2020 election.
Of course, that's Trump's fault.
He should have campaigned on it and explained what he was doing and so on.
I'll even more explain what the Democrats would do if they got in, because we all knew they were going to do this, they were going to over the borders.
But as I say, it's a paradox in that because the immigration ebbed for a while, it didn't spontaneously get itself into the election, and nobody wanted, and for some mysterious reason, the people running the Trump campaign didn't want to get involved in it either, so they missed a huge opportunity there.
Oh, they sure did.
They missed an opportunity to bring people like you and his advisors.
Listening to Ann Coulter, you know, she was very early, especially, you know, kind of endorsing President Trump and getting him to at least do his advisors and his policy adopt her very, very common sense immigration approach.
I'm on a tour, okay?
But on the subject.
I think I would be intrigued to see what the education level.
I know.
I'm assuming it's not very high among those who are migrating in.
How does that juxtapose against the evolution of the economy?
Because you have the Fourth Industrial Revolution underway, according to Klaus Schwab and others.
We have high-tech jobs, advanced labor, and these other things.
We don't have as many jobs for a low-IQ Mexican or Nigerian immigrant to come into.
Would that mean that there may not be, other than with welfare and such, a place for them anymore in society, even if they're forced upon us?
I think it's quite clear that a lot of these people coming in are going to form a new underclass, as if we didn't have enough trouble with the underclasses we already have.
They're not making any effort at all to select people who will be able to perform in the first world economy.
And they're having enough trouble with it even with legal immigration.
One of the odd things about the American Legal Immigration Policy now is that legal immigration is technically out of control too because it's treated as, the Americans treat it as kind of a civil right.
If you get here you can start to sponsor relatives there.
So that means that the government does not actually have any control over who's going to come in after a certain point.
Because, you know, who knows how educated your uncle or your sister and so on is, is going to be.
And so that's why you see a feature of American legal integration is that the skill levels of legal integration, the communities tend to deteriorate over time because they bring in people who are not skilled and not being brought in because of the need to work with family reunification.
But the general point you're making is quite right.
I'm astounded to see in Germany, the Germans apparently decided they're going to put a quarter of a million Kenyans.
People from Kenya into Germany because they think they have a labour shortage.
Well, you know, the kind of people who are going to come from Kenya are not going to help the German labour shortage.
I mean, they're not going to have the skills or the education levels And probably could never get the skills or education levels that the Germans need, but they're blindly doing it anyway.
I mean, I guess it comes down to, you know, what we do here is very important because a lot of people out there are incredibly stupid about these things.
They just have no idea.
They've not thought through what it means to bring in very divergent types of populations What is that going to mean for the society in the future?
It just never crosses their mind.
Well, I think it's very important what you and Lydia do, Peter, and the organization, because you kind of break it down to even the next generation now, why they should care about this issue.
Many people heard the slogan, you know, build the wall.
And they kind of said, well, I have an immigrant friend or my friend is brown.
And they're like, well, that would mean my brown friends don't be here.
The people, seriously, and you know this, they're very simplistic in their thinking.
But what you're laying out are the reasons why someone who cares about their property, someone who cares about their society, someone who has pride in their nation, why they should care about the makeup of the immigration policy.
It comes down to your nieces, doesn't it?
You're obviously a lot younger now, so you're going to be around.
Well, not that much.
I mean, you're still a very spry guy.
Yeah, but I'm not going to live forever.
But, you know, the children will, of course.
As you know, I have very small children at my advanced age.
And you wouldn't wonder what's going to happen to them.
What kind of life are they going to?
What kind of world are they going to live in?
And so that's why we have to, you know, settle this now.
We have to talk about this now.
Well, I certainly know that you've set your children up for success.
They're very, very well-behaved, which shows already.
Just great parents, all right?
Great parents.
A little bias there, but here's something I do have some encouragement in watching.
For those who have decided not to follow in the biblically-backed path of being an incel, a eunuch, as Jesus Christ said in the Gospel of Matthew, those who decide to have huge families.
I've seen this now.
I've seen Catholics.
They're having like three, four, five kids.
They're producing a large community, at least in the sense of the town they live in.
I've also seen a lot of people migrate.
I'm not sure if you've seen this too, maybe.
There's a town here in Florida called Ave Maria.
Now, Ave Maria is a Catholic community, and they've had a huge influx of white Catholics that have moved there.
That's very interesting.
That's Dominos Pisa, the Dominos Pisa founder, isn't it?
Yes, that's right, yes.
Yes, that's right.
Well, of course, one other thing that's happening in the U.S. is people are separating out into their own different communities.
It's sometimes referred to as the Great Sword.
We see this here in West Virginia, the people who are coming to West Virginia To get away from diversity, quite consciously.
And I think that's going to continue and accentuate as time goes.
Now of course it's terrible for the social cohesion of the country, but people have to think in terms of save their own families first.
That's why I think that's actually what Margie Taylor Greene calls the national divorce.
I don't think it's impossible.
I think it's actually happening, whether or not it can be It can be expressed politically, where there's a political solution.
But you can see that.
The communities are evolving in different directions.
Well, it does appear that national divorce has happened already digitally.
We have a divide digitally.
And you can say somewhat physically, too, the geographic locations.
It's not even about big cities versus rural areas anymore.
I know in states in the South, there is a growing anti-immigrant kind of mentality.
Due to the politics of it, you feel like the migrant isn't just displacing the white race, but more so is you physically are reducing your ability to control anything in your society around you.
The vote, as we mentioned, the mailings.
I can't imagine we're going to see any difference in 2024.
I hate to discourage people.
I just want to be factual and give them reality.
It does appear that the Democratic Party has inherited an entire new wave of voters.
Even with situations like here in Florida, we just enacted E-Verify.
Governor DeSantis signed a bill that's gone to law where immigrants cannot get a driver's license anymore.
This is this past week.
The theory is they would have a hard time now registering to receive a mail-in in this sense.
Other parts of the country, Peter, it's an open season.
I can imagine that we're probably going to have 120 million Democratic voters now, based on what's happened.
But in respect to this...
Yeah, well, they're not going to be able to vote that quickly.
That's why they're so desperate to get our amnesty through.
These people coming in here, even if they aren't removed, they're not going to be able to vote for quite a long time.
And the children won't vote.
It's going to be 18 years for the children to vote.
So that's why I say there's a distinction between the...
Yeah, I think 25th of the US is scheduled to become majority non-white.
Well, the actual electorate won a majority non-white for over 20, 30 years.
So there's still quite some time to do things.
All that's required is the will.
And also, I think the knowledge.
I mean, for example, we've been writing about birthright citizenship for 30 years, actually.
And it's astonishing how ignorant, you know, even professional politicians are.
It's just never occurred that it's an issue.
They'll say things like, well, it's in the Constitution, which is completely untrue.
It's a debatable judicial interpretation.
So we have to keep pounding away at it.
Well, certainly debatable in the sense that they're interpreting it at however best influence and benefit the special interest groups that are backing each and every one of these candidates.
In respect to the face of the nation, I was reading Rules for Radicals this past year.
I want to read up on what the enemy thinks, but also I'm trying to break out of our box, out of our ecosystem, and try to think of some creative solutions.
With the left, the Marxists, one thing they did to try to influence the nation, They took off the hippy-dippy glasses and the tie-dye shirts and they put on suits and they became teachers.
Could that work for our side if a lot of Catholics, white Catholics, decided to become teachers or influence education that way?
Or do we need something completely new?
It's a long march through the institutions.
I don't know how much time we have.
What we need is a good election.
We need no 2016 because the terrible thing is that After 2016, the Republicans, they had control of the executive branch, they had control of the legislative branch.
They could do all kinds of things.
They just didn't.
I mean, they just went straight back to, you know, tax cuts for the rich, basically.
And they went back to doing what they did before without even considering any of the issues that brought Trump to power.
And, of course, greatly to his discredit, he didn't force it through.
They were able to roll him.
Hopefully he will know better next time.
But you know, things change very rapidly in politics.
Miracles happen quite often in politics.
I don't think we should rule out the possibility that this could all be turned around by legislative efforts across the Western world.
The country will just wake up and stop this.
Well, I think that is rather realistic.
It's not naive and not kind of hopium-based.
I think it's very realistic because you're right.
We didn't see President Trump coming.
At least I didn't.
I remember 2015.
We're sitting here wondering, am I going to have to flee to Chile or Argentina?
I'm planning to become an expat.
And then out of nowhere, there was a populist candidate who was willing to take up, again, Ann Coulter and your immigration position.
I learned about this position through someone like President Trump, a reality TV host.
Okay, right?
So I think you're right.
I think you're right.
Maybe one of the things we haven't seen yet is maybe there are going to be some high-profile cases like we saw in 2015-16.
Terrorism, attacks on white families.
I know, of course, we mentioned this earlier in the interview about the children.
There was a young woman who was raped, a child, I believe, actually on the border, and they found numerous DNA samples, many different men, An insider when the rape kit had been performed.
And this is the kind of story that really excites a nation in the sense of frustrates them to the point of anger and demand of change.
But I suppose that one of the questions right now is, is change possible in the sense of how we changed in the past?
We have the 2016 election.
It was a peaceful revolution.
2020, we were kind of denied that peaceful revolution.
I think now, many people, they like to feel that they are revolting digitally.
They're making choices to change their families, change their jobs, but they're not necessarily willing to do what your generation did, even in 2001, to protest going into the Iraq War.
I think 2003, there was a million people showed up to protest entry into the Iraq War.
I would say we did see things like that during the pandemic and after.
That's true.
They're not protesting war anymore, but they are protesting tyranny in all places.
Germany.
Remember seeing the rallies in Germany?
Well, thank you.
The Canadian thing.
I lived in Canada for years and years, for 10 years.
I'm truly astonished by that truck of revolt.
I mean, it just came out of an absolute number.
Generally speaking, the Canadians are, as they say to themselves all the time, very deferential.
And they tend to do what the government tells them to do.
They're not as fractious as Americans are.
Now, of course, it's also true that Western Canada is very different from Central Canada and Eastern Canada, and they are much, much more like the American West.
But the truckers were a remarkable thing, just a blow-up like that, with the completely unexpected.
So we'll see.
I don't rule out the possibility that things could turn around very quickly.
Well, Peter, to me, you're somewhat of an elder statesman.
I look to you with a lot of respect.
I like to hear your opinions about things, okay?
And I would like to leave maybe a little nugget of wisdom to those who are going to watch this interview over the next couple months, and especially live here.
I'd say this.
Can you give some advice to people my age and younger, especially those who are active?
How should we be thinking about what is happening?
We've discussed part of that.
What steps should we be taking personally?
What should we be studying?
How should we be developing?
In terms of people's personal lives, you know, there's a whole series of things that you can recommend in terms of having families and homeschooling.
We homeschool.
I find it very difficult.
But I think politically, I think the most important thing right now is to network.
And that's why we have this castle because people have to be able to meet in person to get together and plot and generally exploit each other's strengths and that kind of thing.
And of course one thing that I think people are doing is simply get away from the mainstream media.
I mean, you've got to use alternative media because the mainstream media is intensely controlled now.
The narrative of the mainstream media has never seen it as tight and controlled as it is now.
I'm afraid it's one of the downsides of the internet.
They're able to get online and talk to each other and figure out what to do.
That's why you see these amazing things with all these talking points suddenly sprouting up all over the mainstream media at the same time.
Like, you know, the vision to rush at the border as it was expected.
There is.
But, you know, we've got to get away from the mainstream.
It's poisonous.
It really does create complete false consciousness among too many people.
So, people should listen to this podcast and they should be there.
Well, definitely.
VDare.com.
Of course, you are the editor of VDare.
And of course, you and your lovely, lovely wife are, I would say, somebody who are actually doing the hard work, the networking, and the causal.
The causal is, I think, what he Because the castle is going to become – I'm just going to speak it into existence.
In faith, I'm saying this.
I think that it's going to become a central networking location for the dissident right.
So I think this is going to happen.
I'm looking forward to see the progression of this.
And of course, thank you so much for joining us on this edition of CrossFit.
Thanks so much for having me in.
All right.
God bless you.
Give you a kiss from me.
I will.
I'll give her a big old hug.
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