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April 11, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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G Edward Griffin: CBDC, One World Order, Banking Crash COMING!
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Well, with the banking crash recently, the Silicon banking crash, so many of my viewers have been asking me to have G. Edward Griffin back on my show.
So many of them didn't know that you were actually on my show about six months ago, but now we have even a much Bigger audience, a wider audience, and so many new subscribers, so I thought it'd be perfect timing to have you back on the show to discuss the current financial situation, CBDC, and everything that could be happening, this impending financial doom.
G. Edward Griffin is such a hero to many people.
He's the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, A Second Look at the Federal Reserve, 91 years old, but seems like he's 29 years old, got the energy and sharp as a tack.
But, you know, he was one of the original conspiracy theorists, people who broke outside the mold and actually started questioning things like the government, our financial system, and especially the Fed.
So I'm always honored to have you on the show.
And thanks for coming back on again.
G. Edward Griffin, how are you?
I'm doing well, Lorraine, and thank you for inviting me.
Absolutely.
I'm so happy to have you here.
So, what did you first think?
Let's first start about the...
Ask you about this.
What did you first think when this happened with the Silicon Valley banks a little while ago?
What were your first thoughts?
Well, my first thoughts on that were pretty much my first thoughts on any news that I get, especially from the banking world.
And that is...
Well, we'll have to do a little research on this.
I have become the ultimate skeptic.
I'm not so sure that conspiracy theorist is the proper title for me, but they've hung it on me, so I guess I'll have to take it.
I like to think of myself.
It's more like people who know the future and who are giving spoiler alerts, right?
Because conspiracy theories always come true for us.
Well, I think that the essence of it is that the conspiracy theorist sees that there's something very wrong going on, and they're looking for the cause.
And they're not afraid to look and see who as well as what.
Whereas the mainstream and the establishment gatekeepers don't want us to ask who.
Because they don't want us to be looking for who is doing this to us.
They want us to say, well, it's the course of history and it's nothing we can do about it.
Everybody's doing their best.
So stop looking for people to put the blame on.
In fact, I would venture to say all major events of history have been the result of conspiracies.
And that involves who, as well as what.
So whenever I see any major event in current events, which will become history very soon, I start thinking, hmm, I'm not going to jump to conclusions because I'm reading about this in a controlled media That has a controlled narrative they want me to believe.
So I will check into it.
So that's what my first thought is.
I think I better check into this.
Because I'm relatively certain that the way I'm reading it in the newspapers and seeing it on television is not entirely accurate.
So I haven't really come much further than that, except to know that the banks are...
How do I say this?
They're not going to fail.
Because they failed long, long, long ago.
And we've been told that, no, they're operating just fine, don't worry about it.
We don't want them to fail.
But they've already been bankrupt, and they're crooked, and they're plundering the American taxpayer through inflation, and they're in cahoots with other criminal conspirators, I'll call them what they are, in government.
And in the media.
So it's something you have to understand what's going on and not be afraid to say it if you're going to be able to understand it.
Some people are just afraid to say something where someone else might say, oh, are you a conspiracy theorist?
Meaning that you're a little bit wacky, you don't really know what you're talking about, and so forth.
Well, there are people out there like that.
And I suppose in my In my long, long track record, I've probably been off base a couple of times.
I would hope so because nobody's perfect.
And I think I'm sort of average in that sense.
But anyway, I've been right most of the time because I know, I think I know what's going on out there.
So now, getting down to your question, what's my view of it as of right now?
I still don't really know, but I do know this, that the view we're getting in the media is not totally accurate.
There's something fishy with it.
There's something either happening that they don't want us to know about, or they're trying to make us think that something happened that didn't happen.
So, having said that, the bigger picture is that We're talking about large establishment banks.
We're not talking about the corner bank that has three buildings or something like that.
These are big banks, and they've been part of the international cartel, banking cartel, for a long, long time.
They're insiders.
And whatever they do, you can be sure it was In almost every case, I won't say absolutely, but in almost every case, whatever they do, it was planned.
Yes.
It's not just an accident.
It didn't just, oh, caught us by surprise.
No, they have buildings full of people that monitor these things, and like in the military, they know it worked out ahead of time.
So I'm going to say so much that they probably planned this to happen in one form or another.
Now, when we finally get to the nitty-gritty of it, why would they plan to have a bank failure?
Right.
Well, as I said before, because the banks are already failed.
So why the question is really, why would they allow the world to know that the bank has failed and go through all the legal manifestations of, you know, closing the banks down, firing people, sending them home and so forth?
It's because, now I come to it, it's because they plan to do this across the board for all banks.
And these are probably just the bellwethers.
The first one, they put them out, a couple of them, and they test and see what the public reaction is.
Hmm.
And then they do another one, maybe a few months down the line, test to see what the public reaction is.
And then finally, after maybe five, six months of a couple of banks failing here and there, the public gets sort of calloused to the whole idea.
Oh, the banks are failing.
Okay, the banks are failing.
So when they all go cathub, oh, well, we knew the banks were going to do that because we've been conditioned to accept that as a trend.
So I think that's part of it.
And the real reason they want the bank, the banks want the banks to fail, believe it or not.
For the first time in history, as far as I'm aware, that the banks are not trying to kick the can down the road anymore.
They're actually trying to destroy The present economic system.
And you can tell there's no rationale for doing what they're doing.
They're inflating the money supply at a rate that, I don't know what the number is, but let's just say 50 or 100 times greater than it's ever been done before.
And at one hundredth of the present rate, the systems have always failed.
So you know when they crank it up by a hundred, you know the systems are going to fail.
And they know that, too.
Why would they want the systems to fail?
Because they want a new system.
Now we're talking banking.
They have been telling us that they are building a new world order, a great reset.
And now they're talking about the central bank digital currencies to replace the U.S. dollar and to replace all of the other national currency.
We're told, isn't that wonderful?
We're going to have a new, wonderful digital currency.
It'll be so convenient and theft will be almost impossible.
How can I steal something you don't have and so forth?
The people are buying into it, but they want it.
This is the cashless society they've been dreaming about for decades.
The cashless society means that you and I Don't have cash.
Oh, big deal.
We don't have cash now.
Most of it, we use our credit cards, right?
Right.
So what's the difference?
Some people might ask.
The difference is big.
The difference is huge.
Is that if we decide we want to use cash, we can at the present.
We still have dollar bills and $100 bills.
We still can put money in the tin can and bury it in the backyard.
We can still put money in the mattress.
And we can still be independent.
And we can still choose to pay our taxes or whatever it is.
But once it's the international digital currency, it's not our money anymore.
It's nothing to put in our pockets.
If we were broke and we were sitting on the street corner with a tin cup asking people to donate to our poverty, they couldn't because they have nothing to put in our tin cup.
It's all digital.
And the money literally and legally now belongs to the bank.
It doesn't belong to us.
They lend us or they allow us to use their money Under what conditions?
As long as we obey.
There is the reason.
As long as we obey.
And that's the short answer to your question.
I'm sorry it took so long, but these are the early steps, the early steps to that process, where they're trying to, and going to, if we don't stop them, institute a new uh payment system called the the uh central bank digital currencies and we won't have any control over it we'll be allowed to use it as long as we obey and the minute we step out of line we literally will be we'll be slaves because we'll be begging for food and shelter and water and
health care and transportation we'll have access to nothing we'll be worse than any slave in history So that's the reason.
I think these are the early steps, and they're trying to get us used to the feeling of having banks fail so it won't come as a big shock.
And people will say, well, I knew that was going to happen.
What's next?
So, and when you say that we have no control, it's really going to be...
If we've been vaccinated or unvaccinated, if we choose to wear a mask or not wear a mask or be vaccinated, they could just cut off our money supply.
If we decide to not protest for Black Lives Matter or if we decide to even start growing our own food instead of eating the food at the grocery store that's overpriced and saturated with chemicals, If we step out of line, they will control us with the money supply.
We won't be able...
Our debit card, everything just won't work, right?
I mean, that's what they're moving us towards.
That's the end goal.
That's absolutely the end goal.
And you can see how it's working today in China because they're using the same system.
It's not as far advanced as the new one would be.
This would be the new advanced tested model for more sophistication.
But yeah, if you...
They listen to you, you know, on your smartphone.
I didn't believe that at first.
And I was in a situation where there was a conversation and we were talking about an amplifier system for a gizmo you put on your computer to improve your microphone sounds and so forth and blow me down.
If before the day was over, I didn't get an ad sent to me by email, just the system we're talking about.
So they listen to the conversation, and they do that all the time.
So you can be cut off of your money supply or just be cut off of airfare.
You couldn't travel by plane, or you won't be able to buy certain types of foods.
You might not be able to buy meat, for example.
They decide you're eating too much meat.
Or, I mean, whatever it is, they can restrict your type of spending and the quantity of spending, or they can cut you off completely.
And they will do that on the basis of social credit scores because they don't like what you're saying or thinking or doing.
And this is...
You can't make this stuff up.
I mean, if you wanted to write a science, futuristic, dystopian story, you couldn't match this because this is the ultimate...
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It's part of their sick and twisted plan, which goes way beyond the failing banks and coming recession.
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Brave new world.
I mean, and it's worse than that.
It's worse than that.
And would you...
They're moving us also towards paying with either a microchip implanted in the skin or a face ID, right?
I mean, isn't that why they've been getting us used to using our face, using our thumbprints and the face ID in your iPhone?
They're getting us used to that, to be able to pay with our body.
I've even seen stores...
Oh, it's so wonderful, yeah.
Right?
Sure.
Yeah, that's so they can just identify us.
We can't escape.
They don't want us to be able to hide.
Yeah.
There are many reasons why they want to be able to identify us without our cooperation.
And they've got the technology now to do that.
Yeah.
I mean, now, I don't like those clear check at the airport, right?
You get in front of the line, but you have to give your thumbprint and things like that.
But they're moving us more towards that.
But then they have the ability to see who's coming through, who's coming, who's not.
I mean, it's everywhere is our digital print.
And then we can be tracked and then we can be traced.
Yes.
If we show up someplace where we're not supposed to be, what this fellow or this gal doing here is In Ohio.
Who is she with?
What's going on?
What are they talking about?
And if you're there trying to figure out how to get somebody unelected who is a criminal and replaced by an honest person, they'll know that you've got to be stomped out.
Right.
Now, it's funny that you say that they act every time an event like this happens, a crisis, they act like it was just incompetency.
It was incompetency on the part of the bank.
Oh, what mistakes or sloppy behavior led to this crisis?
Just like the derailment, all of a sudden these trains are derailing everywhere with all these chemicals.
Oh, we need to open an investigation to see what mistakes they made.
I mean, come on, but it's not mistakes.
It's not incompetence.
It is competence and they're following a A well-organized plan with all of these events, correct?
Well, that's right.
That's the definition of a conspiracy.
And that's why you just spoke as a conspiracy theorist.
Because you were looking for who, not what happened, but who made it happen.
And of course, that's not always the case.
Accidents really do happen now and then.
Just look around you.
I mean, all of these food warehouses, all of them, I mean, they're all casting fire and burning down around the world all at the same time.
Wait a minute.
I mean, you have to be an idiot not to see the pattern.
What a coincidence.
And what's in those, right?
I mean, what's in the train?
What's in those food production plants that's so important and valuable?
You have to just connect the dots.
And all of a sudden, when you see inflation go up, we can barely afford groceries anymore.
Prices of basic food like groceries, butter, cheese, eggs, gas prices rising.
And then coupled with all of these food production plants burning down and farms burning, you got a recipe for starving us, for starving us out And making it damn near impossible to survive.
Yeah, and people like Henry Kissinger at that level, you know, deep statists, talk about this sort of thing occasionally.
They'll let it slip and it winds up in the newspaper.
They're quoted as saying, yeah, like Henry Kissinger's famous line, they were talking just a couple of years ago, they were talking about getting something done at the United Nations.
And the question came up, well, isn't that illegal?
In America, what you're talking about, isn't that illegal?
You had laws against it and the Constitution.
And Kissinger says, well, the illegal we can do immediately.
The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
I mean, it's such cynicism, you know?
But that's really the way the world is.
They don't care about laws.
They write the laws now, but they don't care.
The voters have zero input anymore, so the only reason they care about the voters is because they don't want them all getting mad at the same time.
And that would be hard to handle.
They can let them be mad one at a time and be socially rejected if they speak out and so forth.
They can control all of that.
In fact, they kind of like it.
They like conflict.
They like people in a state of fear over violence and, you know, revolution and all that kind of thing.
They like excuses for martial law.
So they welcome a certain amount of that.
Anyway, that's the way the real world works.
And yeah, it's always in today's world.
I think FDR, who's not my famous and my favorite politician of history, said it so well.
He says, in politics, there are no coincidences.
Yeah.
I don't ever believe in a coincidence.
Anymore, especially now, because they're moving.
They're more desperate and aggressive to getting their plan executed, their great reset, their sustainable development goals.
Well, not really sustainable development, but under the guise of the great reset.
So they're so desperate to get that executed and finished because they're almost there.
So it seems like these kind of events and catastrophes are coming more at a rapid pace.
Shootings at schools and malls, banking issues and crises, food production plants burning, trained railments.
It just seems like things are happening at a more rapid pace.
Do you think so?
Oh, absolutely.
You can see that.
And it's logical because I think...
You know, they're well aware of public reaction.
In fact, they're aware of it before we are because they know they have a lot of very professional psychologists working in their camp.
And they know how public opinion works.
They even run tests sometimes to see what the measurements are, the metrics.
Yeah, and the wargaming operations.
Wargaming.
They're constantly monitoring and fine-tuning these things.
So they know in advance what's going to happen.
Nothing takes them by surprise.
And so they try to engineer it and make it work in that direction.
So I don't know.
That's pretty obvious.
And I don't see how...
Only the most...
A pitifully naive or totally programmed person can choose not to see it.
I say choose, advisably, because I understand that the things we're talking about are very uncomfortable.
We don't want these things to be true.
It's not that we get a kick out of a lot of conspiracy.
We get quite a kick, all right, but it's not the kind...
It's not a pleasant one.
Yeah.
What do we do about it?
Nobody wants to face it because that means, my gosh, we have to do something about it.
Right.
No, we have to stand up and even be controversial, perhaps.
We might even have to be called a conspiracy theorist or something.
Yeah.
What would our neighbors and our families say?
What would they think of us?
We won't be invited to Easter...
Dinner or something.
A lot of people are still at that level, worried about, how am I looking?
How am I getting along socially?
We go through school, and we're taught, don't make waves.
Be a team player.
And we're conditioned like this in our childhood.
I was.
And so we don't want to do anything to rock the boat and suddenly be looked at by others as, what kind of an outcast are you?
It's just So, we'll rather go into slavery than be criticized.
A lot of people don't.
We've come to the point where people are waking up, and my reason for going into that is that our enemy knows this, and they play upon that.
And I think they just figured that they've got to run for the finish line now as quickly as possible because people, in spite of what I just said, people are waking up and they are getting mobilized to do something about it.
And so they know that they don't have a lot of time.
If they're going to wrap this up, if they're going to close the door and lock it, it's got to be pretty soon.
So that's why I think they're running faster and faster.
Interesting.
And yes, people, most people have, they care so much about social approval and social proof.
It means so much to them, more than their freedom.
And they would rather they would rather abide or look the other way or be controlled and give up their liberty than be called a racist or a disobedient person or conspiracy or something like that.
It matters so much to them.
And the deep state counts on that because, look, it's effective.
Oh, you don't wear a mask or you don't wear effective.
Yeah, very effective.
Yeah.
It's effective, and they bank on it.
But I'm hoping, and what I think I'm seeing is that more of that kind of person is shrinking down a little bit as they see, as the conspiracy theorists get proven right, especially in the last couple years.
I'm seeing, I'm thinking that group is shrinking a little bit more.
Of course, there's a huge handful, there's a huge population of people that are still very socially easily influenced and controlled.
But do you think, in your opinion, do you think that the deep state, because they can predict social behavior and reaction, do you think that they predicted The reaction to the COVID vaccine as it stands right now?
Because they seem to be disappointed and surprised that more people aren't upping up with their boosters every couple months.
And the rate of the vaccine booster has gone down tremendously than the first couple of shots.
Do you think that they predicted it?
Do you think this is worrying them?
Or do you think this is, you know, they still have a plan B, plan C, you know, different methods to continue this control?
Well, I think both are true.
Yeah.
I'm sure they foresaw it.
I mean, we've seen videos of some of their planning sessions.
And they sit around the table and studiously say, well, now there's going to be some misinformation.
Misinformation, yeah.
Misinformation, which means that some people are going to be on to us.
Yes.
They're trying to expose what we're trying to do.
We'll call it misinformation.
Yeah.
And we've got to crank up.
We'll do what we can.
And they talk about what they're going to do about that.
Yeah.
And then...
And their messaging they're going to craft.
What messaging and so forth and they also know that they um they're going to have to do something else that's why they have more than one uh one ploy at work and right now it seems like they they're playing the the war ploy the threat of war of nuclear war right and i'm sure from what i can see they're ramping up even on the threat of a fake alien invasion Yeah.
Bizarre as they sound.
They've talked about this over the years, but they've always come to...
I've read some of those studies that they've done.
Project Bluebeam.
Project Bluebeam.
They can't pull it off.
You think so?
In the past.
Well, in the past, they said, we're not ready for that yet.
We need more technology.
They've got to project huge visions into the sky.
They've got to spray the sky with reflective stuff so that images would be reflected back, so we can see Jesus coming out of the sky and so forth, or whatever.
Big, giant hologram.
Oh, big giant hologram.
They didn't have the technology.
They were working on it.
They have some magnificent stuff.
I saw some video of stuff that came out of China, and they can project things into the sky.
I mean, it looked like dragons swimming through the sky.
That's frightening.
Realistic stuff.
Okay.
And so I think they've got the technology now, and they can send sound up and bounce it off if they've got reflective material in the atmosphere to reflect the sound.
So you can even speak to large numbers of people from the sky.
Wow.
And now all of a sudden, have you noticed that we're getting movies and news reports on aliens and UFOs?
So that's part of that conditioning process.
It's a process where now the people are going, oh yeah, we've been hearing about that.
Yeah, I've known about that.
Oh, look, it's happening now.
So it doesn't come as a shock.
These people are professional.
They know how to manipulate the masses.
So, my answer to your question is yes to both of those options.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, it seems like they're like, well, maybe the COVID angle isn't going to work for world control and dominance.
Let's try maybe the Ukraine war and build some fear there.
Maybe start prepping them for the big alien invasion, see if that could potentially work.
And how about famine?
How about famine?
Famine.
No food.
Famine.
Yes.
Destroy the food supply.
There's nothing that would bring people to their knees faster than famine, unless it's no water.
If the water goes out, people would be totally compliant to do whatever they can to drink the water.
Do you think that threat is coming soon, even to the U.S.? I don't know about that.
Either the coming or soon, but it's an option for them.
If they decide that that's useful at this point in time, we will see it.
But I think they have so many options right now.
You know, I hate to even talk about this, but these are my honest answers to your question, because it's very discouraging.
And I don't want to create in people's minds the idea that, oh my goodness, this has gone so far, there's nothing we can do.
Right.
Because that will put them into a state of apathy.
Yes.
If there's nothing you can do, then why talk about it?
Why worry about it?
I mean, if that meteor is coming in from space and it's going to hit here on January 4th of next year and there's nothing we can do about it, well...
Let's just go get drunk and stop working and whatever.
Some people will We'll die just because they've lost the will to live because there's nothing they can do about it.
So I'm well aware of that.
And I think our enemy is well aware of that, too.
And I think there are people who have been planted into our ranks.
I say our ranks.
Those who are trying to do something about it.
They've been planted in there as false leaders.
And their job is to convince us that there's nothing we can do about it.
Yeah.
And their other job is to convince us that...
If there's no conspiracy, it's just that, you know, we're evil people.
We need to repent.
We need to find God.
Let's repent our sins and God will take care of us.
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Yeah.
They got all these ploys.
And another one is, oh, what is that?
Oh, I just saw the Dr.
Peter Beggen, I guess is his name.
I hope I got that right.
Yeah.
He's a great guy.
He's a psychiatrist.
And he was a speaker at one of our, Bregan, that's at Bregan.
Okay.
Peter Beggen.
We did a video report I just saw yesterday or the day before about Dr.
Malone, who the media is telling us invented the vaccines.
But now all of a sudden, Malone is now against the vaccines.
He's warning people that they're dangerous and so forth.
So naturally, all the people in our camp, oh, we've got another champion.
He's saying the right thing.
So all of a sudden, he's been...
He's been elevated to the position of a leader in our group, right?
He's a well-known person.
Well, Dr.
Bregan says, no, this guy is a phony.
He's a deep-stater.
He's a plant.
He's a plant.
And his mission, according to Dr.
Bregan, at least, is to convince us that there are no people making this thing happen.
It's a psychosis.
It's called mass formation hysteria, psychosis.
Yeah, mass formation psychosis.
Yeah.
And people say, oh, our hero just said it, so I guess it must be true.
Wow.
And of course, if you believe that, that means that the people themselves are creating the problem.
Yeah.
Wow.
And it's not that the media is doing it or that people like Gates or Fauci or any of these others, they're not doing anything.
Just leave them alone.
It's us.
We are to blame.
And so, in the religious world, people say, we are the sinners.
We must repent our sins.
We are to blame.
And they do this all the time to convince us that we are to blame, and therefore, stop looking for those who, the who's, that are making it happen.
That's so sinister.
I don't want to contribute to that.
That's what I'm trying to say here.
Because there are things that we can do if we just get off of our couches and do it.
We have to get out into the public and be active politically and transmit the word and provide good, verifiable information and so forth.
Well, in places like the Netherlands or France and everything, they're literally farmers on the streets blocking traffic and protesting and shutting things down.
And I feel like the U.S. is a little lazy when it comes to protesting.
I mean, could we stop the central bank digital currency from rolling out if we all gathered together, or even a big portion of us, and protested the streets and really sent a message?
I mean, don't you think those are the kinds of things we need to do is just literally get in their faces and stop it?
Yeah.
That's the big question, isn't it?
Can we do it?
And I don't really know.
Yeah.
Like, is this preventable?
Yeah, I don't know.
But I do know this.
If we don't try it, then we won't.
So the only way we'll find out if it'll work is to proceed as though it were.
We have to stop saying and stop looking back in the race.
We have to win the race.
We don't go into the race thinking, can we win it?
If we can't win it, then why run the race?
We won't know if we can win it unless we give it everything we've got.
Yes.
So I quit asking the question, will this work or not?
Naturally, you want to be wise about what you do.
So you question to a certain level.
But you come to the point always where you say, I don't know.
Let's try it.
Let's be talking about it and try it.
Yes.
And that's where we formed the Red Pill University and Red Pill Expo.
Okay.
And the campuses building around the country.
We're trying it.
It might work.
Yeah.
Let's give it a chance.
Activate yourselves.
Because it's definitely nothing's going to happen if we do nothing.
And this is a fight.
This is a battle.
It's the fight of our lives.
What are we doing?
You know, just sitting around, not doing anything.
We have to actually fight this battle if we're going to win.
I mean, in any battle, people fought.
And sometimes they lost, sometimes they won.
But we're sure as hell not going to win if we don't actually fight this battle.
If you don't show up for the battle, you can't win the battle.
Yeah, exactly.
The war.
I mean, this is a war between us and the deep state.
And there's so many more of us than them.
There's a handful of them, really, in the world.
I mean, there's a handful of these elites, but it's a fraction of the size of the people all around the world who are against them, who are fighting this war, right?
I mean, that's really who this war is against.
There's no question that we have the numbers, but they've got the levers of power.
I mean, let's not kid ourselves.
They've got the control over the courts, the legal system, the judicial system, the army, navy.
They've got weapons of mass destruction we can't even imagine.
They control the media, the educational system, etc., etc.
So we can't overlook that.
Yeah, it's just a few of them, but they've been working without opposition from us.
About a hundred years.
Yeah.
It's taken a long time for them to get control over all of these things.
It didn't happen overnight.
But we weren't concerned because life was good, you know?
And we were still, you know, singing the Star Spangled Banner and pledging allegiance to the flag and so forth.
America is great.
We didn't realize that it was being whittled away and chewed up right under our feet as we were Thinking about how great we were.
And now we wake up some morning and they've got this thing called COVID. And all of a sudden, all around the world, all of the spokespeople for every government in the world were repeating the same line, the same word, Jack.
Yep.
And when did that happen?
And this structure, this grid was in place around the world.
How did that happen?
It's like waking up in the morning after a good rain, and you look out on the lawn, and there are 10,000 mushrooms there.
Yeah.
Where did those mushrooms come from?
They were always there, but they were underground.
And now the rain came, but the signal came, and they came up.
So we saw the mushrooms come up in 2020 from the COVID. An order went out and the grid responded.
So that's what we're up against.
And we have to know that if we intend to fight intelligently.
Yep.
Now, question, what do you think people should do with their money and investments right now?
I mean, people obviously with these bank scares and crises, they're trying to scare people from the banks and make people feel insecure about their money or saving.
And they're trying to make people feel insecure and uncertain, obviously, about their initial ways of saving their money or putting it in banks.
But do you have any advice for what people should be doing to protect their savings and wealth?
And what to do with their money?
I don't want to be in the position of advising people what to do.
Sure.
But I would like to, on that topic, ask people to think about certain things.
And maybe their analogies.
Because I think the principles are more important than the actions.
Well, not more important.
Actions based on the principles.
You've got to have principles.
But if you just start worrying about what should we do without figuring out why we're going to do it, you might make the wrong choice.
So the analogy I think that really is best for this question is if you're standing on a railroad track and you look way down the track and you see a train coming, it's maybe a A quarter of a mile away, but it's coming.
Yeah.
You can see the smoke, you can hear it, you can feel the vibrations on the track, and you're standing on the track.
Now, what's my advice?
My advice is get off the track.
Yeah.
All right.
That's a principle involved here, because we can see this train wreck coming down the tracks toward us.
And it's not likely, it's not reasonable that we can stop the locomotive or the train in the time it takes to come from where it is to where we are.
So we have to do something other than just stopping the train because we don't have time for that.
We have to stop the train eventually.
But right now, get off the track.
Yeah.
So that means that if we have any amount of our savings in money, like dollars or yen or whatever currency around the world people have, because all central banks are doing the same thing.
They're in destruction mode.
So if you have any of these currencies, you're losing value, purchasing power on them daily, by the minute.
So it's not wise to stay on the track.
You want to get off of that track.
So the sensible thing, I think, would be, and the pattern I've tried to follow, is to get as much of my savings out of currencies and dollars.
That includes savings accounts, banking accounts, Insurance, life insurance policies and so forth.
Retirement benefits, all those things that are measured in dollars.
And put them into tangible assets of some kind that would be of value, hopefully, in times of crisis.
Like gold?
Well, like gold, yeah.
It's historically always been the choice and silver.
But there are other things.
If you're in business, if you're a A car dealer, for example, in that business, you might want to stock up on inventory.
You might want to buy a few thousand more extra tires of various sizes.
I've always joked, but it's only half a joke.
I think it'd be a good idea to buy a warehouse full of cheap white wine.
It's a good idea.
I haven't done it, but I still think it's a good idea.
It's a good currency.
Yeah, the worse, the more skinny the environment becomes, the economic environment, the greater the crisis, the more people drink, you know?
Right.
So historically, we know that.
Right.
So I'm not advocating really cheap wine, but the principle is that.
Things like that, yeah.
But if you don't know what else to do, there's always gold and silver.
Of course, there's some risk because you have to guard it.
Yeah.
But it's a risk that you might lose it.
If you stay on the track, there's no risk.
It's for certain you're going to get destroyed.
Right.
So you have to accept risk no matter what you do.
I'm going to cap that off by saying protecting your savings is very important, of course.
But more important is to protect the system that allows you to have savings.
Yes.
So you better spend some of that money if you've got a little excess.
Not just on where you're going to hide it, but you better start spending it on this crusade we're talking about.
Yes.
That's necessary.
Amen.
Otherwise, you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Yeah.
Amen to that.
Now, I've got one more question for you, and it might be a little tricky one because we have a very sensitive audience, and I'm somebody who was very passionate about this individual I mentioned, but lately I've been a little disappointed by some of his actions.
Really swore to fight the deep state and to win and to lock them up and to, you know, end the Fed and bring in much more prosperity to our country, which he did a lot of those things.
But he's obviously running for president again.
And some people think at this point that he could be a Trojan horse, that he could be a deep state plant because he's saying a lot of things, but His actions sometimes speak otherwise and are confusing.
And he hasn't really vehemently come out against the vaccine.
He still calls it the greatest achievement of mankind.
And so a lot of the things he says and does lately have given people some pause.
So do you have any thoughts on that one way or the other?
Any honest thoughts?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
And try and be as honest and objective as possible.
The question is, do I think that he could be some kind of Trojan force or controlled opposition?
Yes, controlled opposition.
Yeah.
The answer is, yes, I think he could be.
Does that mean that I think he is?
I don't really know.
But he could be because his pattern is an exact performance of what those people do.
If you're going to be a false leader, You have to do some things that make people feel that you are worthy of their trust.
They have to do good things.
They have to do good things.
Yes.
And another thing that helps if you're on the other side, and I spend a lot of my time thinking, what would I do if I were sitting on the other side on that table and doing strategy?
And it's pretty easy to do if you just say, what would I do?
Right.
And so not only would I make sure that my controlled op leader is really working for me, but I don't want anybody to know that.
I want to make him look like he's working against me.
Yes, yes.
In order to do that, I have to encourage him.
In fact, I have to instruct him to do some things that are really against me.
They will be well-chosen things, things that could be reversed later, not permanent things, but little things, especially if people are concerned about them, and you can make a big publicity thing out of it.
Like, arrest Hillary Clinton!
Yay!
If you vote for me, I guarantee you Hillary's going into prison!
I think most people bought into that.
Whatever happened to Hillary?
Those things don't need to be...
Campaign promises don't need to be delivered, or if they are, they can be reversed later on.
So I look at things like that, and I remember So the answer is yes, it could be.
So if you look around for evidence of it, I remember when Mr.
Trump was running for office in the very beginning when nobody thought he was a serious candidate.
I saw in the newspaper in the back page, he spent the day with Henry Kissinger.
What?
Why would somebody who's against the deep state, said he was, spend a day with Mr.
Deep State?
Yeah.
And there was no evidence in the newspaper article of what they talked about.
But he came out of it.
And it was a very good talk, I think, or something like that.
A good conversation.
And why would that be?
And I thought, well, I get it.
Because at that time, Mr.
Trump was saying, you should vote for me because I'm a dealmaker.
Remember that?
I make deals.
I can work with anybody.
And people thought, yeah, he can strike a good deal for our side, right?
Yeah.
But they didn't realize that if you can work with anybody, you have no principles.
Right.
True.
You can't work with the devil.
Yeah.
You can't work with the enemy.
You can't make a deal with the devil, literally.
No.
No, you can't.
You'll lose, anyway, if you try.
Yeah.
So I thought, okay, so you made a deal with Kissinger.
Kissinger, of course, I hope your viewers know that, he is considered to be the bag man for the Rockefellers.
Yeah.
He was the head of the Council on Foreign Relations for quite a while.
He's been Secretary of State under Republicans and Democrats.
He's Mr.
Deep State.
He is one of the most powerful people in the world.
And so when you go to talk to Mr.
Kissinger, you're talking to the Rockefellers.
He's their intermediary.
So he made a deal, maybe.
And with the deal, what would the deal be?
Well, to get everybody to like you who we want to betray.
So how would you do that?
Well, you've got to say the right thing.
We find out that the whole pattern, the slogans and everything of this campaign were done by an advertising firm.
It was paid for by money.
I think, I'd have to check on this, but I think it was a firm located in the UK. Interesting.
Make America Great Again came out of a public relations firm.
It had nothing to do with Mr.
Trump.
They were saying, what do the American people want to hear?
Yeah.
They conduct polls.
They spend a lot of money finding out what we want to hear our candidates say.
So then they hire people, scriptwriters.
They write the scripts, and the candidates say what we want to hear.
Yay!
Well...
You know, put Hillary Clinton in prison.
Hooray!
And we elect the guy.
Okay, I'm looking at that, too.
Something, is that what's going on here, I'm wondering.
And then I look at Mr.
Trump's background.
He doesn't really have a A very good record of having high levels of ethics, you know?
Some of it's always coming out.
These ladies are always accusing him of these porn stars and so on.
How did he get involved with them in the first place?
Even if their stories are false, they hung out together, and we know that.
What's that all about?
You put it all together, and I see the possibility.
You ask me, is it possible that he is a kid?
I think it's possible.
You realize that here's a man that probably could easily be blackmailed.
They probably have a lot of photographs of this guy that would destroy his political and probably his personal image forevermore.
The guy always wanted to be president.
He said so as a young person.
He wanted to be president of the United States.
And so if you make a deal with Rockefeller, he says, well, we'll make you president.
All you have to do is just what we tell you to do and say the things we want you to do and support Support the really big things.
Don't ever move against the Federal Reserve.
Don't touch that.
Don't ever say anything against internationalism and the UN and the loss of American sovereignty.
Don't touch that.
And, you know, don't do certain things, the really big things.
But you can do little things.
Oh, and don't touch the pharmaceutical industry.
Let them continue to have a free ride and laws that give them immunity, I guess, to all the deaths that are being caught.
Don't touch that.
And he hasn't touched any of those.
So he's playing the game with little chessmen, the pawns, and the knights and so forth.
No, that's my answer to the question.
It's possible.
I hope it's not true.
Me neither.
If I were on the other side, I would look for somebody just like that.
Somebody who's very charismatic.
And people always get mad at me when I bring up this possibility, and they say, you're a...
I'm supposed to get mad.
Yeah, I'm a deep stater somehow.
A conspiracy theorist.
Right.
Yeah, you're a conspiracy theorist.
See, the idea...
This is so silly.
We can go to a football game, and we can see the two...
Teams out there in the field, and they're trying to deceive each other, right?
A guy has a Statue of Liberty play.
They see him going to throw the ball, but he's not going to throw the ball.
He probably runs with the ball, right?
Yeah.
Oh, the guys are clever.
They deceive each other.
But politicians would never do that, wouldn't they?
Right.
No, they would never do that.
They wouldn't try and deceive us, the voters, would they?
Of course, that's their game.
That's their specialty.
We know it's a big uniparty.
We know it by now.
So, at this point, and they say, well, he would never do that.
Trump is our, you know, the one guy fighting against the deep state.
And nothing Trump could do no wrong to so many Trump supporters.
Right.
But that's exactly what the trick is, controlled opposition.
They wouldn't choose someone unlikable.
They wouldn't choose somebody uncharismatic.
They would choose someone very likable, very charismatic, and who endears us to him so much that we do look the other way when things like this happen, and we forgive, we forgive, we forgive, we rationalize.
And there's one more element to this picture that I think is worth thinking about, and that is...
In American politics particularly, but I think around the world, people don't vote for a candidate.
They vote against a candidate.
It's always the lesser of two evils.
I hate this guy, but I hate the other one worse.
Yeah.
So I'll vote for the one I only hate a little bit.
And so to make somebody seem better than they are, it's a very easy thing if you do control As much as I think our opponents do control in our society, if you do, if you could,
if you could control, let's say you're on the other side, and you could control groups like Black Lives Matter, and Antifa, and so forth, and wild left-wing Democrat leaders, and so forth, and you say to them, okay, unleash your fury.
Be outrageous.
Be as scary and revolting as you can be against Mr.
Trump.
because people will look at you and say oh god they hate trump trump must be our savior because yeah why would they hate him so much and these they're such ugly people why we don't want them running the show and they hate trump okay now we know who the support it's trump you see You get it.
It's not difficult to understand.
Yeah, the psychology.
These people are turned on and off.
You can see there are periods in the press where all of a sudden it's all anti-Trump, anti-Trump, anti-Trump, anti-Trump, coming from these wild maniacs, making Trump look really good by comparison.
Right.
And then it's turned off.
Something else comes into the media, and it's all turned off for three or four or five months.
It's on again.
It's like those mushrooms coming up and down.
You can see the grid is at work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, I've said enough.
I'll just rephrase my original statement, and not rephrase it, but to restate it, is that I think it's possible.
Do I know?
Do I think it's true?
I don't know.
I just don't know.
Me neither.
If I were on the other side, I would have somebody just like that doing what he should do.
And I'm going to lose all these followers just for even having this discussion.
I'm sorry.
Which is ridiculous because all we're doing is speculating and we don't have time anymore to follow another Trojan horse.
We don't have time anymore to rationalize and look away from suspicious actions.
We need to trust but also have discernment.
It's really important.
We don't have time to be fooled anymore.
So I'm raising these questions.
I would add one correction to that.
No, we don't need to trust.
We need to distrust.
We've come to that point.
We have to be right up front about it.
Do not trust any politicians.
Period.
Yeah.
Say it.
I'm not excuse to say it, but I have to say it.
It's true.
It's true.
You're insane if you trust any politician.
You are.
You are insane.
Even the ones you like.
Yeah, I haven't learned anything otherwise.
You haven't learned anything.
I mean, come on.
I mean, you are speaking from a very wise man who've been around for eras and many different decades.
You've seen so many different phases that America has gone through, that the world has gone through.
I mean, it's incredible.
One of these days, I want to have even a longer discussion with you because you've lived through so many different eras, and you are saying this right now.
And if people don't look at that and follow your advice about that, just...
Don't trust any politician.
Always have your discernment about you.
I mean, then they haven't learned anything.
They haven't learned any lessons.
They haven't learned anything.
I mean, this is as old as history.
I really got a first look at it when I was reading the works of Thomas Jefferson.
And maybe this is a good thing to wrap up with, because Jefferson said the same thing with a little easier vocabulary.
Right after the Constitution was drafted, he received a letter from a friend of his who was a doctor.
And this letter is in the archives, by the way.
And so this doctor wrote to him, and the substance of the letter was, well, Mr.
Jefferson, now that we have this republic and this new Constitution, how can we be certain that only good men are elected to office?
And Jefferson's response was classic.
He said, speak to me not of good men.
Rather, let us bind men down with the chains of the Constitution.
In other language, he would say, good men seeking public office?
You've got to be kidding.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, that's funny.
You know, don't trust men.
Just bind them down with change of the Constitution.
That's what the Constitution is all about.
Built on mistrust.
Because sooner or later, if you give power and authority to somebody, even if they're a saint today, who knows what will happen tomorrow under the rights of the Constitution.
Or they're going to die someday and their power and authority is going to be inherited by somebody else who we don't know anything about.
It's just a question of time before corruption takes over.
And that's what's happened to all governments.
That's why all governments, no matter how they start out, wind up eventually being criminal syndicates.
Yep, exactly.
And a true patriot questions authority.
A true patriot is always questioning things, critically thinking.
I mean, that's what a true patriot is, not someone who blindly follows a leader, no matter how charismatic, likable, or lovable they are.
We always question.
Well, yeah.
The charismatic ones are the ones you have to look out for.
They're like suede shoe salesmen, you know?
So many politicians are nothing but con artists.
They're very good at what they do.
They're so good that people buy into it and they don't know.
You know, I've never met a con artist that I didn't trust.
Yeah.
That's before I knew they were con artists.
Yeah, exactly.
I always love and trust con artists.
I mean, you know, women fall in love with them all the time.
They make the best players.
All the time, yeah.
Yeah.
Of course.
So there you have it.
I can talk to you for hours, but unfortunately, I've got to wrap this one up so it gets into the show.
But tell me, tell everybody where they can find you, your great work again, and your Red Pill Expo and everything else.
And it will be also on the lower third, so make sure you click those links, guys.
All right.
Thanks, Larry.
Well, all my stuff, my books, videos, all the things that we sell are on realityzone.com.
And they're all there.
So go there and teach yourself and all of that.
Most of the stuff that's there, though, is on another website, which is a nest of websites.
We call it the Red Pill Project.
We have redpilluniversity.org and redpillexpo.org.
And behind those looming in the background is our all-seeing eye.
Yeah.
We make no secret.
We don't hide anything, you know.
That's the difference.
It's Freedom Force International.
Now, those are places where we have nothing to settle except the truth, and we don't charge anything for it.
In fact, we ask for donations so we can continue to pump it out.
So those are the...
I would start with...
If anybody has in their mind that what we're saying is true, and they want to do something about it, Go to Red Pill University.
Go to redpilluniversity.org.
Start there.
And you'll find plenty that you can get involved with.
We want to build campuses of the university.
Amazing.
In every county.
In the United States.
And we're on the track to do that.
I mean, when our enemy builds, like, you know, Antifa, I'll get it out here.
Yeah.
When they build a movement and call it Antifa, we know its origin is the Communist Party back in Europe.
They had this year ago, Antifa, that's where it started.
It's a front organization, we call it.
They are pretty smart because they build movements based on issues that the people care about.
We, in the past, have always been not so smart.
We're always talking about the principles, and while we convince people of the principles, they don't see any path to convert those principles into tangible political action so that it affects the laws under which we live.
So that's the missing link there, and that's where our campuses come into place.
And so anybody that wants to get into that fray and actually do something to change the system, we have to start at the bottom up.
We can't start at the top and build down.
Movements aren't built that way.
If we're going to vote for president, my gosh, by the time you look at who's available on the ballot, the game is over because all of the candidates are controlled.
That's the game.
So you have to build from the bottom up.
At the county level, how to control the influence, not necessarily control, but at least influence the city council, influence the mayor, the county board of supervisors, board of education, the sheriff's office, all those things need our attention to build a movement from the grass.
So that's what we're going to do.
If you want to find me, that's where you'll find me, redpilluniversity.org.
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