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Feb. 17, 2023 - Stew Peters Show
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MK-Ultra Survivor Speaks Out About Oak Ridge Insanity!
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Did you know the US government drugged and brainwashed Americans to research torture during the Cold War?
We'll be talking about this and more tonight on Crosstalk News.
Good evening and welcome to Crosstalk News.
I'm your host, Edward Zoll.
My co-host, Lauren Witzke, will be joining us shortly with an exclusive interview with a survivor of the barbaric MKUltra program, which was run by the CIA in the 60s and involved dosing special needs kids and American soldiers with LSD and other mind-altering drugs.
The survivor, Steve Smith, has a lot to share, including how Israel recruited sociopaths involved in the program for the Yom Kippur War.
But first, I wanted to warn you about a series of shocking chemical fires and disasters that broke out today while you were at work.
On the heels of the disastrous and ongoing chemical catastrophe in East Palestine, Ohio, which, according to this radar chart, it's now moving well far over the countryside.
You see, most of the Northwest is going to be impacted by this.
Well, there's been an additional train derailment in Van Buren Township outside Detroit, Michigan.
At approximately 8.30 a.m.
this morning, police and fire crews raced to this rural Michigan community after at least 30 rail cars derailed.
They belonged to the same Norfolk Southern involved in Ohio.
Among the cargo was grain, which we need for food, and liquid chlorine, which we don't need in our food or our communities.
Unlike in Ohio, the emergency responders did everything in their power to locate and secure that rail car with the toxic and flammable chemicals before any escalation.
Thank goodness.
It's important to note that Norfolk Southern Corporation is owned by a number of shadowy globalist investment firms, including BlackRock, Vanguard, and JPMorgan Chase.
So when they offer a paltry $1,000 per family for what could be a life-ending disaster for that region, it's being led by the same blood-sucking banksters at BlackRock.
Additionally, it's come to our attention that Norfolk Southern specifically lobbied the U.S. government in 2017 to do away with mandatory safety regulations, such as pneumatic brakes and minimum staffing.
You may not know this, but it's good to have a friend around when you're having to do maintenance on high-pressure equipment.
Well, they wanted to save money, so they've cut most of the crews down to one person, and these people get tired.
These people want to take breaks.
Whether on break or when they're tired, guess who is at risk?
Well, it's the communities that these trains go through.
Now, the pneumatic brakes, I don't know what their excuse is going to be for this, but these are just the facts, folks.
Now, they were successful, and they also doubled down this year to keep these low safety standards.
The same standards, which have led to at least three major derailments in at least two weeks.
I can't believe this.
It's like we're living in a third-world country.
Other than the trains, the fires are back.
Kissimmee, Florida was lit up today after a mysterious fire broke out at an agricultural facility near Disney.
It's been called an inferno, and due to its proximity to the demonic den of pedophile groomers who are trying to groom our firstborn children with content that is not fit for families, we can't rule out that this wasn't started with a lightning bolt from heaven.
Well, the fire, though, according to the authorities, has spread across five acres, and it's also caused a propane tank to explode.
Fumes from melted plastic pots and fertilizer are billowing into the sky.
The smoke is very black, which means it's likely more than just nursery farm products burning.
We're talking fertilizer, pesticides, things that poison the food and water and people.
But don't worry.
Here in Florida, we at least monitor the air quality for hazardous chemicals in the event of a disaster.
Hopefully our governor is not too busy running for president to make sure we don't get palestined.
Speaking of getting palestined, the Biden State Department called out Israel this week.
After the somewhat existent, I don't know how they've managed to exist at this point, but they somehow are leading in some form.
I'm talking about Benjamin Netanyahu and his government of Zionists.
Well, they made a pledge to advance thousands of settlements in the West Bank.
Now, that means they are forcibly removing people who have lived on the land for centuries, and they're replacing them with government-backed welfare camps.
Now, these kaputzes, as many of them call, and they're also religiously kind of backed, so it's mostly Zionist and very, very zealous individuals moving to these camps.
There have been reports of them shooting people, setting people up, so they get shot by the IDF.
It's not a great situation.
Well, the Netanyahu administration, to stay in power and keep their backing from the ultra-right wing...
Our right wing in Israel is really very militaristic.
They love getting money from us and these other things, but they're right wing in the sense that they're militaristic.
Now, this group is backing Benjamin Netanyahu, and they've demanded that he do everything short of stripping the citizenships away from the Palestinians.
They are pushing forward an agenda right now Now, if Netanyahu gets his way, it's going to be the entire block of Arabs in that country.
Now, if you were wondering how I was going to come back and tie this into MKUltra brainwashing, Now, our interview is going to be very shocking, but there's also another shocking report I wanted to share with you, but it's out of Germany.
Now, the somewhat reputable Der Spiegel magazine has caught an Israeli company red-handed, sowing disinformation and unduly being involved in influencing elections worldwide.
Now, this isn't like the fake version of this that the right wing in America always gets accused of.
This is real.
And according to Der Spiegel, they accomplished this through a brainwashing campaign.
They planted fake news amid heated election cycles in at least 33 national election campaigns.
Now, in 27 of the cases, they were successful, and their clients won the race.
They accomplished this by weaponizing a legion of 30,000 fake social media accounts under the leadership of a seasoned Israeli commando codenamed George.
According to Der Spiegel, George and his secret company manipulated elections worldwide for money and even hacked high-ranking politicians for blackmail and psychological warfare.
It's starting to sound a lot like Black Cube and Harvey Weinstein.
This is something that I think many people are going to be interested in.
It's quite the scandal.
It might turn into an Epstein-related scandal.
Speaking of Epstein, I've got an update on this.
We're going to have an update next week on this.
The court docs are getting unsealed.
We're going to know, hopefully, as long as I don't black them out, who his clients were, who the people who were engaging in sex with children.
These people are going to be exposed, and we're going to do a big report on this.
Now, psychological warfare, scandal, brainwashing, all of this has something to do with MKUltra, and you're going to appreciate this interview.
I'm telling you, this is a very interesting interview coming up here.
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Now for our interview.
It's not just George over at Unit A200 who's manipulating the minds of our citizenry.
Our own CIA, when not blowing up underwater pipelines or arming terrorists, was involved in the inhumane torture of our own people.
What a shock, right?
One survivor has come forward to tell his story.
Here is Lauren Witzke's interview with MKUltra survivor Steve Smith.
Welcome back to the Stu Peters Show.
I'm Lauren Witzke, filling in for Stu today.
Now, I know many of the Stu Peters audience have been well aware of MKUltra and LSD experiments that US governments use on patients and other people.
You know, it's not just something that happens within ritual abuse, which the Stu Peters Show has covered extensively, satanic ritual abuse.
This is something that governments are doing against their own people.
Now, we've seen the COVID tyranny.
It's been almost like an MKUltra incident itself.
We've seen the people that have been running the plandemic and implementing policy that hurt people, and they did it without conscience.
It was almost like they were psychopaths.
Now, we have the pleasure of having an Oak Ridge survivor from Canada on our show today.
Now, he was a survivor of these MKUltra LSD... Mind-altering experiments.
And he lived through it to tell us about it today.
I actually met Steve on Twitter.
His Twitter bio really is what drew me in.
He was talking about, you know, I'm a survivor of LSD and now you're watching it happen to you today with COVID tyranny.
Now you're living through this.
Now Steve Smith joins us today.
Steve, thank you so much for coming on today.
It's such a pleasure to have you.
So would you mind going back to the start?
How did you end up at Oak Ridge?
I guess it was like a high-security mental facility, prison.
It was shut down years ago.
However, you were there when it was open.
Would you mind telling us how you ended up at Oak Ridge?
Nice to be with you.
Yeah, the story begins 50 years ago.
And first, I'd like to make this story relevant to today.
Even though this is 50 years old, we still have things happening today.
One of the major things is this program happening in Oak Ridge, actually Hospital for the Criminally Insane was the official title.
This program was during the Trudeau senior period, our prime minister, his illustrious father.
Was the one in charge when this program was happening.
So that brings it right into the present.
It's just coincidental that Trudeau just happens to be Prime Minister right now.
But his father was the guy who supplied the LSD. And I have the documents to prove that.
So, how did I come into this?
Yeah, wow.
Yeah, wow.
I saw what Trudeau did to his people.
I saw what his son did to those people during the lockdowns, the forced vaccinations, the trucker rallies trying to rally against tyranny, and it was like he almost did it.
They didn't care, no matter what we did.
He actually had a deal with mRNA.
Patent, actually, so he just did it without remorse or conscience.
Thank you for that.
Now, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
No, it's okay.
I know psychopaths pretty well, and I know anyone.
Anyway, just clear that that's one of the things that makes this contemporary, that this is a generational thing.
So, when I was a kid, 18 years old, hitchhiking across Canada, so many were at that time, 1968, I got stranded in a small northern Ontario town and stole a car.
Big mistake.
I wasn't exactly a criminal.
I hadn't done a lot of bad things in my life.
Smoked pot, maybe.
So anyhow, I got caught.
I didn't get more than 50 miles with it before I was caught.
That's what led me into this.
I happened to have some LSD in my pocket.
Being a foolish could have just thrown it away.
It was so small.
But I panicked and swallowed it.
So by the time I was in court, they sent me a psychiatric observation.
And of course the LSD wore off in a few hours, but the nightmare had just begun.
Once they have you in that system, that's it.
Your human rights, your civil rights, everything disappears.
You're a non-person.
They can do whatever they want with you under the psychiatric health care thing.
So you found yourself at Oak Ridge.
You were 18 years old, stole a car.
So this was a small northern Ontario town.
But from information I found out through access to information years later, they were soliciting people from all over the place looking for people to bring into this Oak Ridge program.
So, I was essentially traded and transferred under heavy guard like I was Hannibal Lecter.
Seriously, it was awful.
No, it's true.
Yep, and we have the documents to prove that.
He has provided all the documentation, and that is, we are pulling that up on the screen right now for you to look at.
He was transferred, so, to Oak Ridge.
Okay, so here I am in Oak Ridge.
It descended into hell very quickly from the moment you Go through the doors.
The building itself is very intimidating.
In fact, if you look at pictures of the front of Oak Ridge, you can really see the architecture is similar to Auschwitz.
It truly is.
Those horrible Nazi buildings that they built at the time, that's what Oak Ridge actually looked like.
And the inside was just heavy metal, slamming steel bars, and it looked nothing like a hospital.
It was entirely custodial.
No one had ever escaped from there.
So, I find myself in this program.
The program itself is run by the inmates, excuse me, patients.
It was set up by Elliot Barker, Dr.
Elliot Barker and several others, really along the lines of Chinese-style brainwashing, re-education camps, which is actually where he got his training.
He went there in 1965.
Right after he was hired in Oak Ridge, they gave him a one-year sabbatical.
He went to China, which is very odd.
It wasn't even open at the time to Westerners, but he was there.
I have this in his own words.
So, he spent time there and in East Germany learning these things.
Took it back to Oak Ridge and set up this program of patient-run committees that essentially ran itself.
It was a nightmare.
They were in charge of who gets what drugs, including LSD, scopolamine, methamphetamine, psilocybin.
So this was set up by the patients.
They called them teachers.
They were the ones who were dressed in civilian clothes.
At first, I didn't know that they were patients.
I thought they were doctors.
We're staff, as I'm locked in the room.
So, the program was so that there was very little staff or professional medical intervention.
It was all run by the patients.
And these guys were nuts.
I mean, psychopaths, the worst of the worst.
Mass killers.
Peter Woodcock killed three kids.
They gave him a day pass after 40 years.
He was out one day again.
These are the kind of people I was handcuffed to.
Made of seatbelt material.
An incredibly barbarous seatbelt material with grommets punched in it and padlocks so they could tie you up like a turkey or just handcuff you or strap your hands at your side so you can't even scratch your nose for days at a time.
I hate to really go into the kind of physical torture, but it truly was.
Yeah, now you had mentioned the sleep deprivation and the LSD that they would give you.
So they give you LSD and then what would they do with you?
They would hand you to another patient.
He would be the observer.
So his job would be to watch over you and make sure you didn't bash into walls or hyperventilate.
So give that patient methamphetamine or benzodrine or dexedrine To keep them awake all night so they could monitor you.
They would teach patients to take a pulse, and heartbeat, and respiration, and do that every hour to make sure that you stayed alive.
Now, this wasn't.
This was drugs like, which is dangerous.
Too much, you're going to die.
So, Dr.
Elliott Barker, you had mentioned before, was he a patient or he was just the guy kind of running the place?
I've been in rehab facilities, like I struggled with addiction, and we had other like, you know, people like students and stuff who were in the program help as leaders.
Now, it seems like it's kind of a similar setup, except these people were mass murderers and rapists.
Now, what did Dr.
Barker have to do with that?
Like, was he, it was, he implemented this program?
Or, you know, how was he connected?
And what do you think the purpose was of this program?
You know, I mean, it sounds extremely inhumane.
They'd handcuff you to other people.
Keep you awake for days at a time, give you LSD. You know, other patients are running the asylum, but why?
Why would they run these experiments?
They don't run experiments on people unless they have a plan to use it.
Just like they did with the global pandemic and the vaccine, it was a global experiment.
Why did they do this to you?
Oh, they had a reason, all right.
This was Dr.
Barker's own...
Well, he was hired to do this, but this was his project.
He set it up, he directed it, but he had the patience to actually run the day-to-day program.
What they were after was, you see, they didn't know a lot about psychopaths in those times.
They knew it existed, the phenomenon, but they didn't know a lot about it.
This was to study psychopaths.
Where do they come from?
Who are they?
Are they born?
Can you make them?
Can you direct them?
Can you use a psychopath?
If you think about it, the qualities of a psychopath, completely lacking in empathy, connection to other humans, just plain dangerous people that will do anything without conscience for their own interests.
Now those people, a cop, for example, That you beat a little old lady on the stick.
A normal person won't do that.
But if you're a psychopath, if you can find them, they certainly will.
Follow those orders of conscience.
Because a psychopath has no conscience.
So in those times, they were for psychopaths.
How to find them and How to direct them or how to create them.
Now, I don't think that they're born with an illness.
It's an environmental adaptation.
They're just different from the rest of us.
And so they have an advantage.
In business, they just walk on other people.
They'll do whatever it takes to succeed.
Many psychopaths become very successful businessmen.
They were looking to find psychopaths to use for whatever purpose.
Manchurian candidates, maybe.
Yeah, I mean, on this program, we've talked about predictive programming on this program as far as recently, even with this spill in Ohio.
It was predicted in a film that came out in 2022, Contagion and COVID. They always let you know what they're going to do, why they do it, before they do it.
Now, there was a movie called The Manchurian Candidate.
He was, you know, running for president.
I mean, he was going to be, you know...
Yeah.
The next leader of the United States, but you know, it's like these people have, but really they're like puppets and there's handlers behind them.
So it sounds to me like they were trying to create like these, with no empathy, psychopaths and they were going to see if they could take psychopaths and make them into Manchurian candidates.
powerful people or create them so take somebody like you an ordinary guy who got caught stealing caught stealing a car transferred and ran experiments on now folks this is really real Oak Ridge is very real this is one of the survivors from Oak Ridge so take heed what he's saying because if the US government was doing this years and years ago is it possible that there were other programs running Across the globe like this,
and a lot of the leaders we're seeing today were Manchurian candidates made in those same facilities.
Is that possible?
Absolutely.
It's more than possible.
It's guaranteed.
I know it with absolute certainty.
I know that that happened to.
One in particular was Matthew Lamb.
Matthew Charles Lamb came up.
He was one of Dr.
Barker's favorite patients.
He got more LSD than anybody in clinical history.
He killed four people for no apparent reason in 1960, 67, 66, something like that.
So he was in Oak Ridge for quite some time.
Dr.
Barker Matt Lamb was very intelligent, very articulate, well-spoken young man, and they couldn't figure out why he killed these.
So anyway, his fate, after, I think, eight years that he was in Oak Ridge, he was released to the custody of Dr.
Barker.
Now, remember, this guy was a killer.
They released him to Dr.
Barker's farm, where he lived with Barker, his wife, and his two daughters, doing manual labor, babysitting.
This guy's a killer.
And then he decided he wanted the army, so he went to Israel.
He joined the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force, and he fought in the Yom Kippur War.
Then he returned to Barker's farm and next turned up in Rhodesia, fighting in the Bush War, where he was killed So he died as a hero.
Okay, so he died as a hero.
So he was recruited, you know, he was part of this program, he was a killer, was recruited by IDF, went and fought in the Yom Kippur War with Israel.
And then went to Rhodesia and was killed there, died a hero, basically.
So they were kind of putting him everywhere.
That's super interesting.
So he murdered...
That's a Manchurian candidate.
Yeah, that's the thing.
And, you know, I think that we have a lot of leaders now, currently.
You know, because I tried to...
It doesn't make sense.
The decisions that people are making now do not make sense.
If you care about humanity, why would you do what you're doing?
And I almost feel like we have...
Manchurian candidates, people with no empathy, no care for humanity whatsoever.
And we're back, folks.
More from Steve Smith.
Listen, he has the paperwork.
He has everything.
He's going to go through a little bit about what was included in these experiments that Dr.
Barker was running at Oak Ridge.
Okay.
I went through years and years.
I can't imagine how many years looking for information.
Making accession requests, spending hours and days in public libraries.
I found a lot of stuff about what was going on in Oak Ridge.
One of them was this paper.
This is what Barker brought back.
This is a program Barker brought back to China and his travels to various prison camps.
This is called the MAP program.
It stands for Motivation Additude and Participation.
This is what happens when you first enter Oak Ridge, the first few days that I was in.
It starts...
One, when first arriving in MAP, you will be...
All that you have in your room is two safe blankets, one strong gun, and three styrofoam cups.
These cups are to last you one week.
Five, MAP E are allowed to talk to anyone except staff coordinator and teachers.
Teachers are other patients.
Outside of the group room.
6.
When groups are called, you will proceed promptly and quietly to the destination where you are called by the teacher in charge.
7.
You are only allowed one letter per week.
Okay, map rules.
First thing in the morning, blankets folded and mattress outside your door ready for staff to remove.
Two, when the doors are closed, you are not allowed to go past the black line just inside your room.
When your door is open, you will not at any time pass the first line approximately two feet from your door.
After breakfast, you will proceed to put your spoon in the container, paper plates outside your door.
You will not at any time make the staff wait for you.
After breakfast, you will be told by the teacher when to put your shorts and socks on.
And not before.
When called, you will go directly to the shaving room.
Wash up, no noise or talking.
You will do this promptly.
When finished washing, you will go hang your towel by your door until you are called to your functions in the sunroom.
You will do your work efficiently and promptly without any excess noise.
And this goes on for six pages.
Okay, so that was just like the program.
That was like what your life was like there.
That's what it was like.
Yeah, that sounds pretty terrible.
Absolutely regimented.
Now tell me about the sleep deprivation.
What did they do to you there?
Like, what did that look like?
This was using drugs, amphetamines, just keeping it days on end until you lose.
Actually, amphetamines aren't hallucinogenic.
After three or four days, it is.
You just start seeing smoke.
They would keep people awake for, I don't know, maybe five days.
Beyond the being dangerous, while watching patients, while your responsibility to make sure these other patients don't die.
So aside from being awake for your incredible stress of being responsible for keeping some other patient who might be undergoing nightmare drugs.
It's cult's breath in Central America.
So wait, sorry, you broke up.
What was it called?
Scopolamine?
Scopolamine.
Scopolamine.
So it gives you nightmares.
Oh, worse than that.
It's the zombie drug.
This is the worst drug in the world.
Nobody uses this for recreational purposes, but it is so hallucinogenic.
It's a delirium-inducing drug.
So this is the drug that, in Haiti, somebody might walk up to you and Blow a powder in your face and then take you to the bank machine and empty your bank account, take you home, and you'll help pack your furniture for them while they drive it away.
You're literally a walking zombie.
It's also a date rape drug, so it is a nightmare drug.
People talk about LSD in these brainwashing programs, but believe me, LSD is nothing compared to The horrific effects of scopolamine.
And you might die.
This stuff can kill you.
I've done all the research on what is a fatal dose.
It's in my clinical records.
What I got was 1 75th of a grain three times.
That's a fatal dose.
I've checked with doctors.
That can literally kill you.
And at the same time, I was given something called prostigmine, which is a counter effect for a chemical weapon.
If you get hit with a chemical weapon, you use Prostigma to keep you alive like narco for an opiate overdose.
So they would give you the scopolamine in combination with something that keeps you alive.
Absolute nightmare drug.
So LSD, yes, that was something.
Scopolamine, much, much worse.
Now, an observer Me, would be kept awake with methamphetamines to watch over somebody that was on scopolamine and make sure they don't die.
So aside from your own torture, added on to that is the stress of you don't want somebody to die.
You don't want to be responsible for them dying.
It's horrible.
But if they're trying to create psychopaths, why do they expect other patients to keep other patients alive if they're creating psychopaths who potentially are murderers and stuff like that?
You're not supposed to have empathy for other people.
So what was it?
They torture you more if your patient died?
Because why are you supposed to care?
They're trying to make you a psychopath.
Part of the study, who knows?
I mean, this thing was This wasn't invented by Barker.
This was funded by the CIA. I know that, too, and I can prove that.
So, who knows how they gathered all this information and what they did with each particular program.
But it wasn't just one issue.
It was one issue after another.
Barker's basically rebuild the country.
First of all, they had to destroy what you were.
Literally, they had to reprogram you.
They had to wipe out the personality that you have, re-establish their own version of what they were looking for.
They were more than successful with a lot of people, but not me.
How'd you get out?
You were there for eight months.
How'd you get out?
Eight months.
Now, I had no idea about this.
No one ever told me that there is a review board.
After all, this is a hospital and not a prison.
First of all, the car theft charges were dropped, so I was there under no criminal indictment at all, just under the Mental Health Act.
Now, no one ever told me that there were options, that there was a review board.
You could actually make a case to a panel of lawyers and lay people, and they would decide if you should be there or not.
So I found out about that, wrote a request to it, and was released about a week later.
Wow.
And then you got out.
Just popped, thrown out of the street.
So I know you wrote a book.
Then they just tossed me out.
I know you wrote a book about this.
Where can people read the full story and find out more?
We're going to definitely bring you back on more because I think in order for us to solve a current issue, we need to look back at what our world governments were doing back then.
Because I am convinced that they're doing the same thing and why.
I try to understand why.
Knowing that you are an MKUltra survivor, I know we've had some connection issues during this, folks.
He is, you know, and we're not sure what went on with that, but, you know, we're doing our best to relay his story to you.
But you can read the full story by checking out Steve Smith's book.
Where can people find you and find out more information?
I have a website that has several videos done over the years, mainstream CBC documentaries about my story, and more recently about the story that I did the whistleblowing on last year.
So my website is the book's name, pathmachine.com.
Look under the media tab and you'll see the documentaries.
Yes, okay, so psychopathmachine.com.
We haven't even touched on this, but We just scratched the surface about some of the horrors in Oak Ridge.
But keep this in mind.
I found out a little over a year ago that they're doing the same thing by intuition with women.
Now, they took four teachers from Oak Ridge, four of these teachers, and sent them to St.
Thomas to set up the program with women.
And all four of those men were violent rapists.
So, yes, Oak Ridge was exclusively for men, and now they're opening up programs.
They opened up programs for women?
You found this out a year ago.
Well, it was parallel.
It was parallel.
It was going at the same time.
Both those names are gone.
But women, now, these men that they sent there were psychopath rapists.
I'm in contact with one who's still in prison in Dorchester.
He's a dangerous offender.
He's been in prison for 50 years.
I'm in contact with that guy.
I got a lot of information from one of the other litigants who died, actually committed suicide, and left behind a whole bunch of documents about his time in St.
Thomas with women.
It was rape.
There were pregnancies.
There were forced adoptions.
I have the adoption papers to prove it.
I have all of the correspondence to prove that they took this guy, this teacher, and illegally sent him to the United States.
Literally, illegal transfer.
I have the proof right from the US magistrate.
Documents and even a cassette tape.
Absolute proof that what they did was a breach of the Canadian-US Prisoner Exchange Treaty in order to get this guy out of Canada.
Because he got one of these women pregnant, and they didn't want this public.
They didn't know what to do with them.
They had to, first of all, get this guy out of Canada, and then get this baby adopted away from this woman who was in a mental hospital.
Four men in a lot of women's war.
What did they expect was going to happen?
And they were rapists.
All four were convicted, violent rapists.
This is the part of this we haven't even touched on, but this is what makes it contemporary because I only just...
No one knew about this.
Nobody in the world knew about it.
In 25 years of litigation in the Oak Ridge class action lawsuit, 25 years that went on and it's still going on today, no one brought up St.
Thomas.
Neither the defense or the litigants.
Nobody brought up Oak Ridge.
Nobody brought up St.
Thomas.
Could they not?
How could the government lawyers or the plaintiff's lawyers, how could they not bring up St.
Thomas?
It's the elephant in the room.
Yeah, well, who do you think is funding these programs?
You know, you have a program where you put rapists in charge and then they get the patients pregnant, you know, and there's a massive cover-up.
Who do you think is funding it?
I mean, of course they're going to cover it up.
It's the government's funding it, these programs.
Am I correct?
Yeah, of course.
Oh yeah, it's all government-funded.
These are government institutions.
But more than that, some of it was funded by private Organizations, and it turns out to be cutouts for the CIA. One of them was the Donner Foundation.
Canadian Donner Foundation contributed the money for the video equipment that recorded this stuff.
Now, at the time, it was, I think, two-inch reel-to-reel video, but that was cutting-edge stuff at the time, and it was very expensive.
They had it in Oak Ridge, Recording naked men in confined spaces, handcuffed to each other for days on end with no windows, no doors, sucking food through straws in the walls.
I submit that they had the same thing in St.
Thomas with women.
Now I want to know who got those tapes.
Some of the men that were in, it was called this really confined Compressed space.
Some of the men that were in there, they weren't even men.
One of them, one of the litigants, Jonasie was his name, he was handcuffed to a violent murder.
He was scared to death.
He was 15 years old, for God's sakes.
This was recorded.
They were all naked, by the way, no clothes.
So, who got those tapes?
That would be considered child pornography now.
Yeah, it would.
And were they recording the rapes and torture going on in St.
Thomas at the same time?
Were they also recording that?
The Donner Foundation provided the funding for those tapes.
Okay, hey, listen, listen, you need to check out psychopathmachine.com.
Is that correct?
Is that your website?
We're out of time, unfortunately, to read more.
We'll bring Steve back on.
We appreciate you coming on today.
And folks, check out psychopathmachine.com.
There we have it.
That's a picture of Oak Ridge.
Is that correct?
That's Oak Ridge.
That's Oak Ridge.
Yeah, you know, here's the reason I was, you know, guys, listen, like, We have a lot of bizarre stuff going on.
And, you know, we're going to try to uncover every single thing and try to make it make sense.
You know, the U.S. government funding is funding, you know, the worst of the worst.
They were funding the Fauci experiments, the gain-of-function experiments.
We know that there have been false flags.
They keep gaslighting us.
And you know what?
Steve, I appreciate you coming on and telling your story about crimes against humanity that happened to you.
We've been watching three years of Crimes Against Humanity, and none of us have gotten answers as to why.
And we appreciate you coming on and sharing your story.
Wow.
I'm going to have to re-watch that one through.
There's a lot of information there, and I think it's important.
To really understand the history of our country.
You know, we've accused the, quote, radical left of rewriting history.
Look, it's been a bipartisan effort to brainwash you and I into thinking a fake reality about how this country has been formed and run.
We're an empire, and we're run by people other than you and I. And I'll tell you this, you gotta keep your head on a swivel.
Whether it be fertilizer plants going up in flames, trains exploding, or the wars continuing.
We can't afford to get relief to the people of Palestine, Ohio, but apparently we have $100 billion free to give to the people of Ukraine.
Look, that war is about to heat up, and we'll have more reports in the future on Ukraine.
Other than the terrible drones that have been used in that country, it's really redefined what modern warfare is.
The Russians have amassed an enormous army on the border.
According to reports, it could be up to 500,000 soldiers, 2,000 tanks, and enough aircraft and artillery shells to just level the remaining portion of that country.
I know this is true.
When it comes to disasters, wars, we try to do what we can do.
We try to make sure our houses are prepared.
For me, prayer is the biggest thing.
Prayer is the single greatest thing I can do to protect my family.
I know I also prepare to.
I know I've been stocking up on food.
I've been trying to make sure that we deal with the disasters that we deal with here, such as flooding and hurricanes.
So I make sure I have a generator.
I make sure I have some food.
In Turkey, a terrible event this past week.
40,000 people, they're saying, died in an earthquake that hit Turkey and Syria.
Well, one of the crazy things that has come out of this, this is either a white pill or a scary pill.
I'm going to leave it to you, okay?
So what you're seeing here on screen is a Turkish company is promoting what they're calling a bed protection mechanism.
It's an anti-earthquake bed.
Now what happens is, when there's vibrations that are detected by this contraption, the steel apparatus above it will collapse down, throw you into the center of it, and then cover you.
Now, in theory, this would protect you, I suppose, from falling debris.
I've got a couple questions, though.
One, how am I getting air?
Two, how are people going to hear me if I'm inside a steel cage?
And three, what happens if my arm or leg are outside the bed when the earthquake happens?
Alright, so this Turkish company doesn't have it all figured out.
It is something interesting, okay?
I'll give them this.
They're being very creative, I guess, in these crazy times.
But I'll tell you this.
You don't have to go get some steel contraption that might cut off your arm to protect yourself and prepare for earthquakes and natural disasters.
What you can do that's well within your power is you can buy survival food, preparation food, freeze-dried food, actually, and one of the best companies in the world.
I'm a little biased, of course.
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You should certainly consider getting a bucket or two from HeavensHarvest.com.
Use code CROSSTALK. This will get you a discount, and you're going to be able to bring this food with you for hunting.
You have it for hurricanes if you're here in Florida with me and our team.
Or, let's say you are in Turkey or another place, maybe California, where earthquakes come quite often.
You're going to have food.
And you're not going to worry about a steel contraption that might maim you.
I'll tell you this.
My preparation is based around my salvation through Jesus Christ.
I'm trying to sanctify myself and those around me.
I'm trying to lead a righteous life.
It's tough.
The standard is almost impossible.
But I tell you this, every single day, if we're fulfilling the Great Commission, you're doing God's will.
We're building up the parallel economy.
We're doing what the Lord has asked us to do in this time.
And it's not to fear man, not to fear earthquakes, and not to fear the Israeli commandos running influence operations or MKUltra.
It's instead to fear God.
That's who I fear, and you should fear Him too.
He loves you.
He wants you to be assured.
He wants you to join Him in New Jerusalem.
And I hope, through watching our content, that's exactly where you'll be.
Thank you so much for joining us on today's edition of Crosstalk.
On behalf of Loren Witzke, great interview, by the way, I'm Edward Zoll, host of Crosstalk News.
God bless you, and take care.
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